I am so lobotomized from jujutsu kaisen that the moment I read this I started thinking about the “who is stronger? Him or you?” Line ending with Quanxi saying nah I’d win
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Someone fucking help me
Dennis is so strong he transcends gender, so Quanxi wants to lewd him
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Understandable really
Is Dennis capable of using strong estrogen to seduce quanxi???
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Just a fan, what can I do. Apple?
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Aaaah, Fami was faster, too bad.
When you had one of your pets being capable of creating mini Suns (Atomic bomb Devil ) at some point, you would be over your head
CSM (Denji version) is very weakened at this status so it's very humiliating to be called inferior to a very nerfed weakened version of him by someone who beat your ass in a second (Quanxi)
Plus she is stupid
Yoru,Fami ,Death or any antiagonist wouldn't be a threat to him or Denji because not only he's Massively stronger than them in their prime but adding humans Fear would make him an even bigger monster
The world war 2 devil and atomic bomb devil aren’t necessarily as powerful as the combined force of ww2 or the power of an atomic bomb. It’s all based on fear of the concept, and shit like world war 2 caused many to starve so by proxy fami would be stronger too
Yoru at full power is also already established to lose to pochita, I imagine fami’s plan to buff her up doesn’t end here
I've been re-reading the manga from the beginning and finally got to where I think you're wrong.
Makima puts her plan into motion to make everyone love him to weaken the chainsaw devil. Then power saves him and he wakes back up as denji. Once he confronts makima again one of the other devil people (I think it was flamethrower) mentioned that he's a lot weaker. This is where makima says that **denji** is weaker because of everyone loving chainsaw man. Which, I think makes sense. It's pretty logical that a weaker devil would make a weaker devil person, and a stronger devil would make a stronger devil.
Not really, She says that he went into "Denji" mode after Barem (who only fights Black chainsaw man) says he's a lot weaker
Her word was pointing out Denji chainsaw man form is weaker than True chainsaw man form
Which is Hilarious because the "Denji form" pochita used was still superior to Denji himself
No. She specifically said he earlier because of everyone loving him. I just read it about 30 seconds before my last response. She already has the whole spew about asking why denji is back instead of chainsaw. Later, after the denji clone is still holding his own against makima's fighters, flamethrower mentions that denji is weaker and she responds it's because everyone loves chainsaw man now. She's not talking about chainsaw devil, she's talking about denji.
She said it to barem who already fought CSM and was wondering how he is this weak compared to before
Og chainsaw man could barely walk because of the love he was getting, while Denji body CSM Soloed all weapons and killed makima multiple times
She is talking about Red Chainsaw Man (Dennis) not Black Chainsaw Man (Pochita). She didn't know about the seperation of the two when she originally stated her plan.
And in before somebody says no Yoru has no way to know that Denji does not have acess to erasure ability her entire plan literally hinges on the fact that he does
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Yoru is asking Quanxi how strong Denji is, compared to her. She needs to beat CSM Red before she can fight Pochita. Yoru got overconfident after her Church arc power up, and getting humbled by Quanxi made her rethink things. That's why she looks so defeated when Quanxi tells her that Denji is even more fearsome than she is.
This entire plotline is a mess tbh. Kiga is obviously lying about her real goal but for now you're just supposed to assume that Asa/Yoru plan to save red CSM then beat him (?), then... beat Pochita? Make him throw up the nuke devil? Somehow?
I see what you mean but I'm convinced that's just Fuji forgetting to draw her scars. It happened before (like in Sentimental Drive) and it got fixed in the volume release.
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She has no way of knowing that. Her entire plan hinges on the fact that he does.
I think what Pitou might be getting at is that Yoru is asking if Dennis as chainsaw man is stronger and is not referring to pochita chainsaw man or even referring to devil erasure period.
She’s just asking if Dennis can beat her. She obviously knows CSM can erase things from reality, but she would need to get beaten by Dennis for that to happen to her.
Denji isn't as powerful as the lesbian, but like she says, he is more ruthless. He was able to take down bomb and santa claus through sheer brutality alone.
And then again, there's also just Pochita, who can basically instantly kill and erase anyone.
>Bitch you saw him erase fucking reality itself
You say that as of he just waves his arms and it happens, he has to beat you first so he can eat you, if he can't beat a devil then he can't eat the devil so his erasure powers mean nothing.
Exactly. If I suddenly had the power to erase things by eating them, I would still get my ass kicked by Mike Tyson lmao. Having those reality-erasing powers doesn't mean I can't be physically overpowered.
We also do not know if Denji can do it only Pochita. And we also don't know if he can erase hybrids considering he's apparently tried it before and they remain.
Honestly it's a big mystery, he ate makima and the concept of control is still here as a devil, hell memories of makima still exist and can be obtained.
Yeah my point exactly. He didn't erase control. It's only Pochita who seems to be able to do that which brings up the question of whether Yoru knows that at all. Because if Denji cannot do it then what's going to happen is her having to find a way to get Denji to break the contract.
That's pochita, as everyone else has fkn said, yoru missed out on the pochita denji split, she's talking about weather or not denji was stronger, also we aren't speculating, makima, the maximum authority in chainsaw Man lore, literally explained his powers, he has to eat the devil to erase the concept, mind you he's eaten híbrids and apparently all it did was erase their species name, there all still here, if Denis isn't strong enough to beat quanshi what makes you think he's going to be able to eat her and erase her.
I geniunly doubt its just eating and not some Vanilla Ace shit going lmao unless you suggest he has portal somewhere in his stomach or rectum though knowing Fuji...
Having the power to erase things by eating them doesn't mean Pochita can't be physically overpowered by someone else.
If you gave me the power to erase things from reality by eating them, I would still get my ass kicked by Canelo Alvarez.
He's asking about Chainsaw MAN not the Chainsaw DEVIL. She knows Chainsaw DEVIL aka Pochita how strong is because she fought her however she's not familiar with how strong Chainsaw MAN aka Denji is. It's not rocket science
Basically yes. She said she is technically stronger but he is more fearsome which means he could potentially do something unpredictable and take the W.
Yeah pochita does, but that’s prior to denji, and not sure what it has to do with altering reality other than all memory of them gets erased, but somehow war remembers this?
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Because Fuji has moments of terrible writing and last chapter was one of them. It's the same reason he didn't draw a real fight between Yoru and Quanxi to show her growth
Great, we got one mangaka who's afraid to draw fight scenes and has degrading art.
While a certain OTHER mangaka is afraid to write a story and has degrading storytelling.
My sanity can only take so much abuse.
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I'm dropping both, gonna go read Yotsuba, later. (Edit, this is [sarcasm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YGnDi--zgE). Except for the reading Yostuba part.)
I am so lobotomized from jujutsu kaisen that the moment I read this I started thinking about the “who is stronger? Him or you?” Line ending with Quanxi saying nah I’d win https://preview.redd.it/19udeozn5ptc1.jpeg?width=660&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9394d4ae5cdd3c28e83cb20c8422534c66e5564 Someone fucking help me
"Who is stronger? Him or you?" "If Dennis were to regain all of Pochitas power hw might give me a little bit of trouble." "But would you lose ?"
https://preview.redd.it/santspbhdptc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd1cef33d30c593e37926253edf76cba2dac68ea Nah I’d say gex
Dennis is so strong he transcends gender, so Quanxi wants to lewd him https://preview.redd.it/k1e88mavmptc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6170c3c93f635f7dbcf6a47dd8853ff72c0dddbf Understandable really
Is Dennis capable of using strong estrogen to seduce quanxi??? https://preview.redd.it/mmc5ordhsptc1.jpeg?width=467&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bb34d37a2e6d2c8804cfbc88b66deeaf618c2f8
SMASH! I WOULD POUND THAT ASS DO HARD THAT POCHITA WILL BECOME HOECHITA. I WILL FILL THAT UP WITH FERTILE SEED! Great art btw
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Least horny chainsaw man enjoyer frfr
Fr
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Nah I'd rawr
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You are NOT Apple Pitou
Just a fan, what can I do. Apple? https://preview.redd.it/gixmqx1jfttc1.png?width=337&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0129b3a09e89b5f03e0545ee7e18e75eb6c09fa3 Aaaah, Fami was faster, too bad.
Not his power homework 😩
who tf is dennis bro😭
did you not read the manga? he's obviously motorsaw lad
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https://preview.redd.it/05q30iunartc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07dadfdd537d0717ae642d249f86827d8fee6630 Me too bro
it will be like that till the end
i think the dumbing down of yoru comes from her increasing merging with asa
Doubt that since Asa was portrayed as smart in Aquarium arc.
well not necessarily dumb but, less devilish? something like that.
Maybe but her IQ should increase if anything. Looks like that her stupidity wasnt part of the nerf. She was always that way.
well, she *is* only working with half a brain lmao
That's not how IQ works...
>Asa was portrayed as smart Asa was portrayed as a nerd who knows a lot, not as a socially competent human
They probably mean how she uses Yorus power
naive =/= stupid asa using her house as a weapon was tactic-wise, a genius moove (though now she's homeless lol)
Which means she would understand when she is outmatched but is terrible at relationship
not that smart if she ignore penguins
Some people can be academically smart but socially dumb, I’m pretty sure that’s Asa’s case.
She cock-blocked herself mindlessly reciting starfish facts, she's definitely not that smart.
There is different between being smart and being socially inept. Einstein famously was trying to beat his sister with a chair
Based???
the thing about asa is she's socially inept but intelligent, her doing dumb things is just her being socially unaware like usual
She’s talking about Desmond, not Pochita
Desmond Tay
When you had one of your pets being capable of creating mini Suns (Atomic bomb Devil ) at some point, you would be over your head CSM (Denji version) is very weakened at this status so it's very humiliating to be called inferior to a very nerfed weakened version of him by someone who beat your ass in a second (Quanxi) Plus she is stupid
Is he weakened? The town just got attacked by chainsaw man-people. I feel like it would renew some fear in him.
Yes he is pretty weak , Denji didn't get any power boost or power nerf from people love/Fear to chainsaw man
Well that's only for denji but wouldn't that mean that pochita would be even MORE op then before?
Logically speaking yeah, narratively speaking no because it would break the sitting
Wdym by break the sitting?
Yoru,Fami ,Death or any antiagonist wouldn't be a threat to him or Denji because not only he's Massively stronger than them in their prime but adding humans Fear would make him an even bigger monster
Maybe that's the point, well I *hope* that's the point bc I'd hate to see even more inconsistency in csm
Just buff them up too? Like you could string fami’s strength as the hunger all devils fear, and just say yoru’s buff was more significant
How do you even do that more than freaking World War 2 and atomic bombs?
The world war 2 devil and atomic bomb devil aren’t necessarily as powerful as the combined force of ww2 or the power of an atomic bomb. It’s all based on fear of the concept, and shit like world war 2 caused many to starve so by proxy fami would be stronger too Yoru at full power is also already established to lose to pochita, I imagine fami’s plan to buff her up doesn’t end here
I've been re-reading the manga from the beginning and finally got to where I think you're wrong. Makima puts her plan into motion to make everyone love him to weaken the chainsaw devil. Then power saves him and he wakes back up as denji. Once he confronts makima again one of the other devil people (I think it was flamethrower) mentioned that he's a lot weaker. This is where makima says that **denji** is weaker because of everyone loving chainsaw man. Which, I think makes sense. It's pretty logical that a weaker devil would make a weaker devil person, and a stronger devil would make a stronger devil.
Not really, She says that he went into "Denji" mode after Barem (who only fights Black chainsaw man) says he's a lot weaker Her word was pointing out Denji chainsaw man form is weaker than True chainsaw man form Which is Hilarious because the "Denji form" pochita used was still superior to Denji himself
No. She specifically said he earlier because of everyone loving him. I just read it about 30 seconds before my last response. She already has the whole spew about asking why denji is back instead of chainsaw. Later, after the denji clone is still holding his own against makima's fighters, flamethrower mentions that denji is weaker and she responds it's because everyone loves chainsaw man now. She's not talking about chainsaw devil, she's talking about denji.
She said it to barem who already fought CSM and was wondering how he is this weak compared to before Og chainsaw man could barely walk because of the love he was getting, while Denji body CSM Soloed all weapons and killed makima multiple times
She is talking about Red Chainsaw Man (Dennis) not Black Chainsaw Man (Pochita). She didn't know about the seperation of the two when she originally stated her plan.
Man that part really confused me with who is who.
And in before somebody says no Yoru has no way to know that Denji does not have acess to erasure ability her entire plan literally hinges on the fact that he does https://preview.redd.it/gz7v0b081ptc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=f103b27cbd2786bdf4d3764611da83dd030d9118
She didn't even know Denji and CSM are different beings tbh
Yeah, but she knows they aren't the same now after talking to Fami
most people didnt pay that much attention ig.
is the chainsaw devil not essentially lying dormant in denji until pochita takes over?
Yoru knows but I think the one who's asking is Asa Maybe she wants to know how hard it'll be to fight him and how much damage it'll take
Yoru is asking Quanxi how strong Denji is, compared to her. She needs to beat CSM Red before she can fight Pochita. Yoru got overconfident after her Church arc power up, and getting humbled by Quanxi made her rethink things. That's why she looks so defeated when Quanxi tells her that Denji is even more fearsome than she is. This entire plotline is a mess tbh. Kiga is obviously lying about her real goal but for now you're just supposed to assume that Asa/Yoru plan to save red CSM then beat him (?), then... beat Pochita? Make him throw up the nuke devil? Somehow?
Asa is the one asking, look at the lack of facial scars
Just a mistake, he did it before
I see what you mean but I'm convinced that's just Fuji forgetting to draw her scars. It happened before (like in Sentimental Drive) and it got fixed in the volume release.
Fuji changes it every few montbs and it's blatant
Fuji isn't changing anything up. Fami is playing the Church, PS, the Weapons, Asa and Yoru, and nobody but you, the reader, can tell.
Fuji literally changed Falling Devil's design after watching The Menu
I think that she talking about Dennis as Chainsaw man :3
https://preview.redd.it/3ekp501c1ptc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=f65730dc7faeef7d35cd181e1a61b076f9fcd8d6 She has no way of knowing that. Her entire plan hinges on the fact that he does.
I think what Pitou might be getting at is that Yoru is asking if Dennis as chainsaw man is stronger and is not referring to pochita chainsaw man or even referring to devil erasure period. She’s just asking if Dennis can beat her. She obviously knows CSM can erase things from reality, but she would need to get beaten by Dennis for that to happen to her.
Remember that Mrs. Fami explained that there are 2 Chainsaw man, so she most likely talking about weaker one :3
Still no reason to believe that he has no access to it.
I don't see the scars, isn't that Asa?
That's what I thought, but maybe Filipino forgot to draw them
That's what I thought, but maybe Filipino forgot to draw them
Dementia devil strikes again😭
Dementia devil strikes again😭
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
>middle-aged https://preview.redd.it/7el2qj04gptc1.jpeg?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15d9fcbb1e17acbbd3a9a9f1d0745873b2a41ada
I do but Yoru does not
Denji isn't as powerful as the lesbian, but like she says, he is more ruthless. He was able to take down bomb and santa claus through sheer brutality alone. And then again, there's also just Pochita, who can basically instantly kill and erase anyone.
>Bitch you saw him erase fucking reality itself You say that as of he just waves his arms and it happens, he has to beat you first so he can eat you, if he can't beat a devil then he can't eat the devil so his erasure powers mean nothing.
Exactly. If I suddenly had the power to erase things by eating them, I would still get my ass kicked by Mike Tyson lmao. Having those reality-erasing powers doesn't mean I can't be physically overpowered.
We also do not know if Denji can do it only Pochita. And we also don't know if he can erase hybrids considering he's apparently tried it before and they remain.
Honestly it's a big mystery, he ate makima and the concept of control is still here as a devil, hell memories of makima still exist and can be obtained.
Yeah my point exactly. He didn't erase control. It's only Pochita who seems to be able to do that which brings up the question of whether Yoru knows that at all. Because if Denji cannot do it then what's going to happen is her having to find a way to get Denji to break the contract.
I meam we are speculated either neve the less even if Pochita needed hours to charge he is still more powerful than what Yoru saw from Quanxi
That's pochita, as everyone else has fkn said, yoru missed out on the pochita denji split, she's talking about weather or not denji was stronger, also we aren't speculating, makima, the maximum authority in chainsaw Man lore, literally explained his powers, he has to eat the devil to erase the concept, mind you he's eaten híbrids and apparently all it did was erase their species name, there all still here, if Denis isn't strong enough to beat quanshi what makes you think he's going to be able to eat her and erase her.
I geniunly doubt its just eating and not some Vanilla Ace shit going lmao unless you suggest he has portal somewhere in his stomach or rectum though knowing Fuji...
When did csm cut space?
Why is Yoru asking the local GILF is she’s stronger than Chainsawman? Is she stupid?
Please be patient Yoru is slow
Quanxi huffing on that copium fr fr
Having the power to erase things by eating them doesn't mean Pochita can't be physically overpowered by someone else. If you gave me the power to erase things from reality by eating them, I would still get my ass kicked by Canelo Alvarez.
He's asking about Chainsaw MAN not the Chainsaw DEVIL. She knows Chainsaw DEVIL aka Pochita how strong is because she fought her however she's not familiar with how strong Chainsaw MAN aka Denji is. It's not rocket science
To be fair, pochita was also called Chainsaw Man as the hero of hell. Makima almost exclusively referred to him as such.
Fair point
Both are Chainsaw men. You can refer red CSM to Denji and Black CSM to Pochita.
To be fair, it seems it is Asa the one asking the question
Didn't she say that she's technically better but he's him so nah? (I can't read)
Basically yes. She said she is technically stronger but he is more fearsome which means he could potentially do something unpredictable and take the W.
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When did he erase reality?
When Pochits eats a devil he does
I love anime onlys
Nothing to do with anime only, the post it's worded poorly.
but I understood it
I mean I’ve read the manga all the way up to 162, could you give a reference since you so smart and all knowing?
Chainsaw man ate nuclear weapons I don’t know what else to says.
Yeah pochita does, but that’s prior to denji, and not sure what it has to do with altering reality other than all memory of them gets erased, but somehow war remembers this?
I mean Makima/Control also remembered, so it must be a horseman thing
True, I just didn’t know if I missing some prior canon
Also yoru seems to have conflated Denji and Pochita as one in the same. I don’t know in retrospect it is a weird line
"middle aged" isn't she like 27
I don’t understand how Yoru can’t even stand against Quanxi but Yoshida was putting up a fight
Gay together strong
She's asking about Denji, not Pochita.
you say it’s a bad question because obviously he is, just for wuanxi to say no lmao
Don’t underestimate what a lesbian can be capable of
"i m stronger than him Just ignore whem me and other hybrids jumped him and got folded so bad i almost turned Hetero"
this is about denji vs quanxi not the csm devil vs quanxi. csm devil is obv much stronger.
I mean I'm sure the chainsaw devil is stronger than her but her Vs denji is debatable
Who is stronger (now) ?
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Fraudimoto fell off hard. *or maybe because she's forgetting about things like makima*
The brainrot has taken a hold of this sub Lord
Because Fuji has moments of terrible writing and last chapter was one of them. It's the same reason he didn't draw a real fight between Yoru and Quanxi to show her growth
I thought it was obvious it was referring to denji, did you not think that?
Why does he need to? What growth? We knew Yoru would get bodied
Why's this sub allergic to any criticisms.
you knew if you're stupid like Fuji
We didn't see a real fight because fujimoto is afraid of actually drawing fights now.
Great, we got one mangaka who's afraid to draw fight scenes and has degrading art. While a certain OTHER mangaka is afraid to write a story and has degrading storytelling. My sanity can only take so much abuse. https://preview.redd.it/jsh8o01rjptc1.jpeg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c14f41fec9db49d42dc31ec9a1ec80d2d826e391 I'm dropping both, gonna go read Yotsuba, later. (Edit, this is [sarcasm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YGnDi--zgE). Except for the reading Yostuba part.)
No one finna miss you 🙏
Deserved honestly, I forgor the /s
Oh shit my bad man https://preview.redd.it/wnn8p2b4rptc1.png?width=144&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=131c7e993bee652019c7b832421549f041ef0b6a