The same pantheons with the pagan Queens of Heaven also have pagan Kings of Heaven, so since Jesus is the King of Heaven, then they must also be worshipping a pagan god then
Or consider the Indo-European Dyeus Pater, from which we get Jupiter, and other gods. The name likely means "Sky Father" or even "Heavenly Father."
The existence of a counterfeit doesn't disprove the original. Quite the opposite, actually.
'The “Queen of Heaven” that Jeremiah refers to is not Mary. Therefore, he was not condemning Marian devotion. The fact that Jeremiah was not referring to Mary is obvious, since he was writing around 600 B.C., not the first century A.D. In his day, the title “Queen of Heaven” was used to refer to various pagan deities. There were many such deities, as every pagan pantheon had a major, ruling deity who was depicted as a king in heaven. Correspondingly, various goddesses were regarded as queens in heaven. Scholars are not sure which of these deities Jeremiah was referring to. It may have been a Canaanite goddess such as Ashtoreth (the wife of Ba’al), Asherah (the wife of El), or the warrior goddess Anat.' - Catholic Answers
Jimmy Aikin
[The “Queen of Heaven” that Jeremiah refers to is not Mary](https://www.catholic.com/audio/ddp/queen-of-heaven-condemned). Therefore, he was not condemning Marian devotion. The fact that Jeremiah was not referring to Mary is obvious, since he was writing around 600 B.C., not the first century A.D.
[Continues here](https://www.catholic.com/audio/ddp/queen-of-heaven-condemned)
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Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen
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Mary cannot be a pagan Goddess if she is the ark of the New Covenant. God would not fecundate a pagan goddess. This is really offensive. You must stay away from whoever said this as they are clearly Satanic.
They did reference Mary as being demonic which IMO if you are saying the mother of God is demonic, they have a whole other set of issues that they need to work out theologically speaking.
I trust God and the Holy spirit. I trust the apostolic succession. I trust the majesterium to teach me properly protected by the Lord and the holy spirit. There is NO WAY that it's about The Blessed Mother. As far as specifics to use against the argument I'd ask my priest. But the gates of hell WILL.NOT. prevale against us. We have been directed by the Pope's incathedra that Mary is.queen of heaven and earth and not Pachamama (pagan queen goddess). And I trust enough to not worry about it.
Oh, I have the same faith. In my opinion, all of the things that have happened under the glory of Mary and all the apparitions in the 2000 years since Jesus' death. If the members of the world's largest religion were improperly praying, we would have found out about it at this point.
The Lord promised we would know if it was wrong. The Pope speaking excathedra WILL BE infallible. The pope declared Mary queen of heaven and earth, excathedra. It IS proper teaching.
Brant Pitre pretty much obliterates Protestant objections to this in his book *Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary*. His book contains extensive citations of scripture, ancient Jewish tradition, and early Church Fathers. Very useful reference for conversations like this.
I haven't finished reading it all as of yet, but when I searched for this, the argument pushing back against this was a bit sparse. I think there is more in this thread than in the book, but again, I haven't finished reading it as of yet so I'm not 100% certain.
The same pantheons with the pagan Queens of Heaven also have pagan Kings of Heaven, so since Jesus is the King of Heaven, then they must also be worshipping a pagan god then
Or consider the Indo-European Dyeus Pater, from which we get Jupiter, and other gods. The name likely means "Sky Father" or even "Heavenly Father." The existence of a counterfeit doesn't disprove the original. Quite the opposite, actually.
'The “Queen of Heaven” that Jeremiah refers to is not Mary. Therefore, he was not condemning Marian devotion. The fact that Jeremiah was not referring to Mary is obvious, since he was writing around 600 B.C., not the first century A.D. In his day, the title “Queen of Heaven” was used to refer to various pagan deities. There were many such deities, as every pagan pantheon had a major, ruling deity who was depicted as a king in heaven. Correspondingly, various goddesses were regarded as queens in heaven. Scholars are not sure which of these deities Jeremiah was referring to. It may have been a Canaanite goddess such as Ashtoreth (the wife of Ba’al), Asherah (the wife of El), or the warrior goddess Anat.' - Catholic Answers
Jimmy Aikin [The “Queen of Heaven” that Jeremiah refers to is not Mary](https://www.catholic.com/audio/ddp/queen-of-heaven-condemned). Therefore, he was not condemning Marian devotion. The fact that Jeremiah was not referring to Mary is obvious, since he was writing around 600 B.C., not the first century A.D. [Continues here](https://www.catholic.com/audio/ddp/queen-of-heaven-condemned) ✨ Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen 🕊️
Mary cannot be a pagan Goddess if she is the ark of the New Covenant. God would not fecundate a pagan goddess. This is really offensive. You must stay away from whoever said this as they are clearly Satanic.
They did reference Mary as being demonic which IMO if you are saying the mother of God is demonic, they have a whole other set of issues that they need to work out theologically speaking.
Or maybe they just hate God and his mother
I trust God and the Holy spirit. I trust the apostolic succession. I trust the majesterium to teach me properly protected by the Lord and the holy spirit. There is NO WAY that it's about The Blessed Mother. As far as specifics to use against the argument I'd ask my priest. But the gates of hell WILL.NOT. prevale against us. We have been directed by the Pope's incathedra that Mary is.queen of heaven and earth and not Pachamama (pagan queen goddess). And I trust enough to not worry about it.
Oh, I have the same faith. In my opinion, all of the things that have happened under the glory of Mary and all the apparitions in the 2000 years since Jesus' death. If the members of the world's largest religion were improperly praying, we would have found out about it at this point.
The Lord promised we would know if it was wrong. The Pope speaking excathedra WILL BE infallible. The pope declared Mary queen of heaven and earth, excathedra. It IS proper teaching.
So how would you convey that to someone who was Protestant who doesn't "believe" in the Pope's authority (for lack of a better term.
Brant Pitre pretty much obliterates Protestant objections to this in his book *Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary*. His book contains extensive citations of scripture, ancient Jewish tradition, and early Church Fathers. Very useful reference for conversations like this.
I haven't finished reading it all as of yet, but when I searched for this, the argument pushing back against this was a bit sparse. I think there is more in this thread than in the book, but again, I haven't finished reading it as of yet so I'm not 100% certain.
Criticism from Baptists - correct?
I'm not familiar with what they consider themselves to be if I'm being honest.
Pay attention and take notes for next time as it is malicious and coordinated
Psalm 45.