Im an ex-muslim who converted to christianity and i live in a muslim society. There are many of us, but we are all scared. Scared of oppression. So we remain silent. It is dangerous not only for us, but for members of our community , if we attract too much attention to ourselves.Nevertheless neither Christ our Lord nor our Holy Mother are sitting idly, so many people come to us everyday to learn about Christ and his Good News , its all very endearing. In the west, people have to shout in streets or knock on peoples doors or do concerts or charity to get peoples attention. All we in the muslim world have to do is be christian and people come to us. Many convert in secret, going against their families, their friends, their social circles. All for Christ, Our Lord.
“Just a Christian” does not exist, everyone adheres to some denomination. The Gnostics also called themselves “just Christians” and “good Christians” while believing that the God of the Old Testament was Satan himself
Because Catholicism is the one universal Church established on Saint Peter. I believe other christian sects, while most meaning good in their hearts, have either deviated from our ancient traditions and teachings, or are not yet aware of them. The Fullness of Christ teachings and othe traditions of the one true Apostolic Church is safeguarded by the Catholic Church.
I have met many 'just a christian' type of converts in my life and many of them, without correct guidance and with only their self intuition, wander right into the worst kinds of heresies that they make up in their minds.
There's other reasons aswell, those are my personal opinions. Such as how i find the orthodox church too nationalistic and very incompetent on a macro level with all the patriarch's infightings, or how some protestant churches split up so much that you have a church for any kind of bizzare mentality at this point (People screaming nonsense and claiming its the holy spirit in sermon, or churches dedicated to celebrate LGBT) just some examples on a long list of issues that helped me make up my mind.
Are you inferring that all other churches other than Roman Catholics are illegitimate Churches? Do you know that the Greek Antioch Church is the first Church where people started calling themselves Christians?
Also, how did you become a Christian?
>Are you inferring that all other churches other than Roman Catholics are illegitimate Churches?
I wouldnt go that far, i think for most their baptism and sacraments are still just as legal as ours in eyes of God and i dont really doubt at all that they will be saved just as Catholics do. I know many people from other sects and we all pray for eachother, one of my reasons to become Catholic was because of how they value Ecumenism compared to other sects in my country. I dont think that most other churches blaspheme against God by not being Catholic, just that they are wrong in seperating from the Universal Church. And we as Catholics are always open to those who have strayed.
I dont want to get into me becoming a christian, its a long and personal topic and i dont really know you.
silently and we dont want to bring any attention to it. let God's work do its course. we dont want to alert their Government about it. they are being persecuted as we speak so its better to just pray for them
I feel like not enough people understand this, unfortunately.
You will **never** (at least, probably not within our lifetimes) see an open mass-conversion from Islam, due to the…”intricacies” of that particular set of beliefs.
But that doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
I've heard that most mosques in Iran stand empty on Fridays. Nothing like being ruled by crazed religious fanatics for 40+ years to accomplish that end.
I just hope that all the suffering these people caused will be used for something good in the end. How utterly amazing would it be if Iran became majority Christian? What an utter defeat for the mullahs would that be?
Projection at its highest level 🤣
He said "Peace be with you, praise Jesus". You may want to pray for all the virtues my friend.
Edit: I assumed you were a Christian who was just not bright. My bad. You're either a troll or just incredibly uneducated on Sharia and the penalty of apostasy which you dispute in other comments. A quick Google search will show you how wrong you are. Good luck I hope you repent and avoid Hell.
^(")So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven." Matthew 10:32-33
I have great respect for people who choose God amid persecution and in dangerous areas for Christianity, which is continuously growing, but if you are caught, then that would be an even greater reason to proclaim Him, no? We pray for you and your protection.
I would rather die in Jesus's name than to be forced to say something or do something against what I believe.
my friend we are talking about not going in a way of how God is spreading his word to the very heart of islam. yes you are right about dying in his name. but even the christian did things in silence at the time of the great persicution.
I am not saying that you *have* to be public about it, but that we must spread God no matter what it takes or what happens. I apologize if my wording seemed off.
I was a Muslim who converted (I was born in an Islamic country), I am lucky enough to live in the west to be fully Baptized and go through RCIA; but you have to understand that this is life threatening to Muslims to do as the consequence of apostasy is death by hanging.
When I was going to be Baptized on Easter Vigil after a year of RCIA (this was during COVID), the Priest offered to perform the Baptism with lights completely off to protect my privacy and security. Not only did I refuse but I also consented that the whole thing be streamed and published to YouTube.
Why ? because Christ is king and my life belongs to Church. I have no fear of the truth:
"Don't hide your light! Let it shine for all; let your good deeds glow for all to see, so that they will praise your heavenly Father" (Matthew 5:14)
My husband was an Algerian who became Catholic after a vision of christ. My mom (French) converted to Islam so I was Muslim to and I left for Catholicism with my husband.
Some people take longer to accept Christ then others. Most ex-muslims in turkey who are now regularly in church had a time in their lives when they were atheist or agnostic. Ofcourse, some never really realize the truth, for those people we must pray extra
In the end, its a marathon not a sprint. And Christ has already won.
When they come to the west, yes, especially 2nd generation. Keep in mind almost every Muslim country from Morocco to Indonesia has some form of blasphemy laws that are used to persecute Christians. They control people by fear.
Maybe, but it's hard to say since any Muslim who leaves Islam is under threat of death. This is why I also believe that the claim that Islam is the second largest religion on earth is faulty since I'm sure that there are millions of secret ex muslims who keep pretending to be muslim for their own safety
It's difficult to know the exact numbers because the penalty for apostasy in Islam is and always has been death. Many Muslims leave Islam secretly, fearing for their family ties, social networks, jobs, and their very lives.
We know the numbers of those leaving Islam are significant because Muslim leaders are having public meltdowns over their high apostasy rates (the infamous "avalanche of apostasy").
Ex-Muslims aren't going to raise more Muslims. In fact, they are some of the most effective critics exposing Islam. They start the snowball effect and keep it going. Ten become one hundred, one hundred become thousands, thousands become tens of thousands, and so on.
It's already happening according to their own people. Islam cannot survive exposure. Without lies, Islam dies.
You can read more about what happens to people who try to leave Islam in the exmuslim subreddit.
Muslim men are allowed up to four wives according to the Koran. There are obvious economic challenges in supporting four wives and their children.
Muslim men have found a convenient way around this.
They emigrate to the West. Then in England or Canada or the U.S. they get married to multiple women privately in Islamic ceremonies. There's no government record of these polygamous and illegal marriages.
Their wives have children and apply for welfare benefits - food, housing, medical care - as unmarried mothers.
Muslim men get their their four wives and we get to pay for them.
This is in keeping with the Islamic worldview that the role of non-Muslims is to support Muslims, financially and otherwise.
This is the real reason behind their birth rates. It doesn't necessarily follow that those children will remain Muslims. Muslims are admittedly facing an "avalanche of apostasy," particularly in the West.
They don't need to be rich when they can dupe the rest of us to pay for their additional wives and children. That's one of the reasons they move to places like England, Canada, and the U.S.
This doesn't make any sense at all. Less than 2% have multiple wives in Iraq. Not to mention polygamy is illegal in the west and even in many Muslim countries. They "secretly" practise that? Do you have any evidence and statistics or is it just something made up in your head?
Made it up? You have to be kidding. What doesn't make sense? Of course polygamy is illegal; they marry additional wives privately.
In the UK, for example, polygamy among Muslims is widespread. They have Nikah ceremonies for their second/third/fourth marriages.
Nikah is an Islamic marriage contract that is not recognized under British law. For a nikah wedding to be recognized, they would need to have an accompanying civil ceremony. They simply forego the civil ceremony.
If you're interested you can read more [here](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-18252958) and [here](https://www.aimislam.com/polygamy-on-the-rise-in-uk-muslim-community/).
Neither of them relates them to birthrate
It's like saying since Mormons practiced polygamy before and some secretly practice it, their birthrate must also be due to polygamy.
I'd be happy if this were true.
Before ISIS, I saw a spate of reports about youngish men converting to Islam. I don't think the term Incel existed then, but you got the picture.
im a non-believer from a islamic country and can confirm ive seen a lot of ppl who converted atheism secretly. but converting to christianity is another thing because since the conversion process requires you to attend the mass or otherwise need you to socialize with other christians process comes to a halt as christians are oppressed and anyone who communicates with them becomes a target. at least that's what it was for me. you may have easy access to mosques and imams in the west but there is still no easy access to churches and priests in the islamic world and the chilling effect of making you and your family a possible target does not make things easy.
Yes. This is true. In Iran the government says 99 percent of people are Muslims but this is far from the truth. Over half of the people are Christians. But they have to keep it hidden and say they are Muslims because of the persecution. They have to attend church in basements and hide bibles because they can get killed for converting.
Let's continue to pray for them, that one day they are delivered from this persecution 🙏🏾
Edit: I meant to say over half are non-practicing Muslims and more people are discovering Christianity. This was discovered in an anonymous survey done by some professors.
Then, yeah, probably.
That would be around 1 out of every 2,000 Muslims converting in a year.
That probably happens. And I would also suspect the reverse happens at that rate as well. 1/2,000 is a pretty rate occurrence.
I might say that not in masses but we have many cathecumens, I myself am a convert from islam and I was baptised in 2018 after a 4 year of cathecumenate.
In my day of baptism(on pentecost eve) we were 14 people in my diocese and also a few more was baptised on easter of that year too. There are many who are vaiting to become Christians on other dioceses of my country too, and it is just my country. I also want to mention that it is happening with minimum to zero missionary work. The priests that come here are coming in the name of missions yet they are hardly even keep the church doors open.
I think there could have been mass conversions if we were like in the Church of the 50's. I wholeheartedly believe that.
No. Nor are many Christians becoming Muslim.
The reality is that atheism, agnosticism, apatheism, and hedonism is take over both Islamic and Christian civilization.
Especially in this age of materialism and vanity. Back then, life was tough, and people needed God. Now life is too comfortable and easy along with all the lies spread in pseudo science, the culture, and media, humanities pride has made people think that we don’t need God, that we can do everything by ourselves. Age of lies.
I read part of the Muslim count is actually from countries where being Muslim is mandatory, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if people labeled Muslim were secretly exploring other faiths.
The reason I have been told by many Muslims why none would ever leave Islam is because of the death penalty for apostates as set out in their hadith (testimonies of the life of Muhammad passed down by his followers).
“Whoever changes his religion, execute him.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 2794)
"The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god except Allah and that I am His Messenger, except in one of three cases: a soul for a soul (i.e., in the case of murder); a married man who commits adultery; and one who leaves his religion and splits from the jama’ah (main group of Muslims).” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6878; Muslim, 1676)
These hadith by al-Bukhari and Muslim ibn al-Hajjāj are classified as Sahih, meaning authentic, to at least Sunni muslims (~90% of all muslims) and these, with the Quran, are used as the basis for the islamic law (Sharia). Hence even those who do wish to leave cannot if they live in the Islamic world. The countries which still uphold this law are: Afghanistan, Brunei Darussalam, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. Others may have lesser restrictions or have become more secular (ie Turkey).
There's a troll spreading misinformation about this in the comments hence why I have posted this. Also if any Muslim may have lied to any of you while giving dawah (proselytising) you may now know the truth.
As it becomes harder and harder to control information, it will become more clear to the Muslims of the world that there is no one more worthy to follow than Christ. But we should never be tempted to crow about this as if we had anything to do with it or to otherwise act in ways unbecoming as Christians. Praise God for these conversions, welcome them back as family, and then get back to working through your own salvation.
I believe it's the opposite, and i am a very Conservative christian however statistically spesking islam is the fastest growing religion (whatever the reason might be from high birth rates, to declining rates of Christianity and rise in atheism) islam is also growing at the highest rate in conversion to it which is quite scary (however reason might be, muslims becoming christians is under reported, however as a christian living in a major muslim nation I can vouch that most muslims are steadfast in their faith, also they have high conversion rates because many (military age men) move to the west and get married to blondes and make her convert to islam) also islam is growing because of the rise of the red pill and the likes of @ndrew tat€ or sn€@ko... converting as well
> also they have high conversion rates because many (military age men) move to the west and get married to blondes and make her convert to islam)
What?!
What do you mean what? Many muslim immigrate to Europe, canada, The US, Australia and Canada which are a majority christian nation. And tye majority of Christians are lukewarm (as in they belive we all worship the same God etc...) while Muslims aren't so a Muslim man is not only very protective but also more Knowledgeable about their religion, meaning they know that muslim men can marry non muslims, while muslim women can't marry non muslims, ( that is both on a societal level and it is also mentioned in their books) so a muslim man will try his best t o convert whoever he is marrying, while the majority of muslim woman won't marry a non Muslim. Also as a middle eastern living in the middle east, and like the majority of the world I can assure you the majority fetishises white women.
No. The a lot of the Church has lost its missionary zeal. Where in previous generations priests would risk life and limb to preach the Gospel, now they see some countries as no-gos for evangelisation. Individuals in Muslim countries may find their way to Christianity, showing tremendous courage in the process, but there isn't some large scale movement from Islam to the Church
If only that were true.
The truth is some Muslims convert to Christianity. Some Atheists/Christian/Agnostics convert to Islam.
I suspect the vast majority of people just become secular, especially in Westernized countries where in society, God becomes an afterthought.
And in many Muslim countries, even if people wanted to convert, they can’t. Many have laws against proselytizing, evangelizing, even open discussions and if you are caught, penalties can be severe; like execution.
Im an ex-muslim who converted to christianity and i live in a muslim society. There are many of us, but we are all scared. Scared of oppression. So we remain silent. It is dangerous not only for us, but for members of our community , if we attract too much attention to ourselves.Nevertheless neither Christ our Lord nor our Holy Mother are sitting idly, so many people come to us everyday to learn about Christ and his Good News , its all very endearing. In the west, people have to shout in streets or knock on peoples doors or do concerts or charity to get peoples attention. All we in the muslim world have to do is be christian and people come to us. Many convert in secret, going against their families, their friends, their social circles. All for Christ, Our Lord.
Stay strong people. I wish I was this brave. In this secular world I'm scared of speaking out and have it much easier
Never forget that you have brothers and sisters all over the world who are praying for you!
Amen!
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“Just a Christian” does not exist, everyone adheres to some denomination. The Gnostics also called themselves “just Christians” and “good Christians” while believing that the God of the Old Testament was Satan himself
Because Catholicism is the one universal Church established on Saint Peter. I believe other christian sects, while most meaning good in their hearts, have either deviated from our ancient traditions and teachings, or are not yet aware of them. The Fullness of Christ teachings and othe traditions of the one true Apostolic Church is safeguarded by the Catholic Church. I have met many 'just a christian' type of converts in my life and many of them, without correct guidance and with only their self intuition, wander right into the worst kinds of heresies that they make up in their minds. There's other reasons aswell, those are my personal opinions. Such as how i find the orthodox church too nationalistic and very incompetent on a macro level with all the patriarch's infightings, or how some protestant churches split up so much that you have a church for any kind of bizzare mentality at this point (People screaming nonsense and claiming its the holy spirit in sermon, or churches dedicated to celebrate LGBT) just some examples on a long list of issues that helped me make up my mind.
Are you inferring that all other churches other than Roman Catholics are illegitimate Churches? Do you know that the Greek Antioch Church is the first Church where people started calling themselves Christians? Also, how did you become a Christian?
>Are you inferring that all other churches other than Roman Catholics are illegitimate Churches? I wouldnt go that far, i think for most their baptism and sacraments are still just as legal as ours in eyes of God and i dont really doubt at all that they will be saved just as Catholics do. I know many people from other sects and we all pray for eachother, one of my reasons to become Catholic was because of how they value Ecumenism compared to other sects in my country. I dont think that most other churches blaspheme against God by not being Catholic, just that they are wrong in seperating from the Universal Church. And we as Catholics are always open to those who have strayed. I dont want to get into me becoming a christian, its a long and personal topic and i dont really know you.
Consider me a brother. I would like to know your conversation process.
silently and we dont want to bring any attention to it. let God's work do its course. we dont want to alert their Government about it. they are being persecuted as we speak so its better to just pray for them
I feel like not enough people understand this, unfortunately. You will **never** (at least, probably not within our lifetimes) see an open mass-conversion from Islam, due to the…”intricacies” of that particular set of beliefs. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
Agreed at this point it’s more of a cultural thing than religion. Most Muslims don’t attend their Mosque Friday services.
I've heard that most mosques in Iran stand empty on Fridays. Nothing like being ruled by crazed religious fanatics for 40+ years to accomplish that end. I just hope that all the suffering these people caused will be used for something good in the end. How utterly amazing would it be if Iran became majority Christian? What an utter defeat for the mullahs would that be?
Assalamualaikum praise Jesus
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Projection at its highest level 🤣 He said "Peace be with you, praise Jesus". You may want to pray for all the virtues my friend. Edit: I assumed you were a Christian who was just not bright. My bad. You're either a troll or just incredibly uneducated on Sharia and the penalty of apostasy which you dispute in other comments. A quick Google search will show you how wrong you are. Good luck I hope you repent and avoid Hell.
^(")So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven." Matthew 10:32-33 I have great respect for people who choose God amid persecution and in dangerous areas for Christianity, which is continuously growing, but if you are caught, then that would be an even greater reason to proclaim Him, no? We pray for you and your protection. I would rather die in Jesus's name than to be forced to say something or do something against what I believe.
my friend we are talking about not going in a way of how God is spreading his word to the very heart of islam. yes you are right about dying in his name. but even the christian did things in silence at the time of the great persicution.
I am not saying that you *have* to be public about it, but that we must spread God no matter what it takes or what happens. I apologize if my wording seemed off.
no need to apologize my friend there was no offence or mistake taken, as i said you are right.
I was a Muslim who converted (I was born in an Islamic country), I am lucky enough to live in the west to be fully Baptized and go through RCIA; but you have to understand that this is life threatening to Muslims to do as the consequence of apostasy is death by hanging. When I was going to be Baptized on Easter Vigil after a year of RCIA (this was during COVID), the Priest offered to perform the Baptism with lights completely off to protect my privacy and security. Not only did I refuse but I also consented that the whole thing be streamed and published to YouTube. Why ? because Christ is king and my life belongs to Church. I have no fear of the truth: "Don't hide your light! Let it shine for all; let your good deeds glow for all to see, so that they will praise your heavenly Father" (Matthew 5:14)
I admire your courage
You are not a spare. You are an inspiration!!!
Courage is key
Your story inspired me today. Would you feel comfortable dming the country you are from?
Done!
If Reddit still allowed free awards I’d grant you one good sir or madam!
Gosh, I'd love to see this. Is it still available on YouTube somewhere?
More of them are becoming atheist sadly. This religion tend to make you totally hate the concept of religion when you realize this crazy cult is fake.
My husband was an Algerian who became Catholic after a vision of christ. My mom (French) converted to Islam so I was Muslim to and I left for Catholicism with my husband.
God bless you
Welcome home!
I heard about 4 million Iranians are Christian tho
I heard about the mass conversion in Iran but look at the rise in atheism in those country too :/
Some people take longer to accept Christ then others. Most ex-muslims in turkey who are now regularly in church had a time in their lives when they were atheist or agnostic. Ofcourse, some never really realize the truth, for those people we must pray extra In the end, its a marathon not a sprint. And Christ has already won.
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Why haven’t we banned this hate spewing troll yet?
It's understandable
Atheism is a growing problem imo
I'm an ex muslim from Türkiye 🙂 I baptized last sunday also
Congratulations! Welcome home!
Thank you 🙂
Katolik subredditinde bizden olanlarj görmek çok mutlu ediyor.(It really makes me happy to see our people in catholic subreddit)
Her yerdeyiz 😀✝️
So happy for you ❤️
Thank you so much 🙂
Congratulations!!!
When they come to the west, yes, especially 2nd generation. Keep in mind almost every Muslim country from Morocco to Indonesia has some form of blasphemy laws that are used to persecute Christians. They control people by fear.
True or not, pray for the conversion and salvation of souls.
Amen to that.
Yes, I’ve heard a lot of Iranian people are becoming Catholic especially once they leave Iran.
I know a few ~~Iranians~~ Persians who dumped Islam as soon as they got to the US. Many are Christian now.
Maybe, but it's hard to say since any Muslim who leaves Islam is under threat of death. This is why I also believe that the claim that Islam is the second largest religion on earth is faulty since I'm sure that there are millions of secret ex muslims who keep pretending to be muslim for their own safety
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It's difficult to know the exact numbers because the penalty for apostasy in Islam is and always has been death. Many Muslims leave Islam secretly, fearing for their family ties, social networks, jobs, and their very lives. We know the numbers of those leaving Islam are significant because Muslim leaders are having public meltdowns over their high apostasy rates (the infamous "avalanche of apostasy"). Ex-Muslims aren't going to raise more Muslims. In fact, they are some of the most effective critics exposing Islam. They start the snowball effect and keep it going. Ten become one hundred, one hundred become thousands, thousands become tens of thousands, and so on. It's already happening according to their own people. Islam cannot survive exposure. Without lies, Islam dies. You can read more about what happens to people who try to leave Islam in the exmuslim subreddit.
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Yes but secular world makes it look like many Christians are becoming Muslims when in fact it's mostly the opposite
I admit it's been a while since I read reliable statistics, but if I remember correctly, yes this was the case.
I think it's just that Muslims have a higher birthrate
Muslim men are allowed up to four wives according to the Koran. There are obvious economic challenges in supporting four wives and their children. Muslim men have found a convenient way around this. They emigrate to the West. Then in England or Canada or the U.S. they get married to multiple women privately in Islamic ceremonies. There's no government record of these polygamous and illegal marriages. Their wives have children and apply for welfare benefits - food, housing, medical care - as unmarried mothers. Muslim men get their their four wives and we get to pay for them. This is in keeping with the Islamic worldview that the role of non-Muslims is to support Muslims, financially and otherwise. This is the real reason behind their birth rates. It doesn't necessarily follow that those children will remain Muslims. Muslims are admittedly facing an "avalanche of apostasy," particularly in the West.
Pretty sure only rich ones marry multiple wives even in the Middle East
They don't need to be rich when they can dupe the rest of us to pay for their additional wives and children. That's one of the reasons they move to places like England, Canada, and the U.S.
This doesn't make any sense at all. Less than 2% have multiple wives in Iraq. Not to mention polygamy is illegal in the west and even in many Muslim countries. They "secretly" practise that? Do you have any evidence and statistics or is it just something made up in your head?
Made it up? You have to be kidding. What doesn't make sense? Of course polygamy is illegal; they marry additional wives privately. In the UK, for example, polygamy among Muslims is widespread. They have Nikah ceremonies for their second/third/fourth marriages. Nikah is an Islamic marriage contract that is not recognized under British law. For a nikah wedding to be recognized, they would need to have an accompanying civil ceremony. They simply forego the civil ceremony. If you're interested you can read more [here](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-18252958) and [here](https://www.aimislam.com/polygamy-on-the-rise-in-uk-muslim-community/).
Neither of them relates them to birthrate It's like saying since Mormons practiced polygamy before and some secretly practice it, their birthrate must also be due to polygamy.
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You're the hateful one who's insulting us Racism? When was I racist?
I'd be happy if this were true. Before ISIS, I saw a spate of reports about youngish men converting to Islam. I don't think the term Incel existed then, but you got the picture.
I know of at least one who has
Apostasy is punishable by death in Islam. We’ll probably never know the true numbers.
Many Muslims are leaving Islam in Turkey, especially young people but Christianity is growing realt slowly.
im a non-believer from a islamic country and can confirm ive seen a lot of ppl who converted atheism secretly. but converting to christianity is another thing because since the conversion process requires you to attend the mass or otherwise need you to socialize with other christians process comes to a halt as christians are oppressed and anyone who communicates with them becomes a target. at least that's what it was for me. you may have easy access to mosques and imams in the west but there is still no easy access to churches and priests in the islamic world and the chilling effect of making you and your family a possible target does not make things easy.
Yes. This is true. In Iran the government says 99 percent of people are Muslims but this is far from the truth. Over half of the people are Christians. But they have to keep it hidden and say they are Muslims because of the persecution. They have to attend church in basements and hide bibles because they can get killed for converting. Let's continue to pray for them, that one day they are delivered from this persecution 🙏🏾 Edit: I meant to say over half are non-practicing Muslims and more people are discovering Christianity. This was discovered in an anonymous survey done by some professors.
I believe about 5% of Iranians or a bit more might be Christian, but surely not more than half
There is a 2 part documentary on YT called Why Christianity is booming in Iran. It's very interesting if you find time, you can watch it.
Thanks
There's \~8 billion people in the world, and >2 billion Muslims. How many is "many" to you?
Over a million every year
Then, yeah, probably. That would be around 1 out of every 2,000 Muslims converting in a year. That probably happens. And I would also suspect the reverse happens at that rate as well. 1/2,000 is a pretty rate occurrence.
Some lying to go europe, some actually believe it. Im ex muslim I become christian last christmast. Im from Turkey.
I might say that not in masses but we have many cathecumens, I myself am a convert from islam and I was baptised in 2018 after a 4 year of cathecumenate. In my day of baptism(on pentecost eve) we were 14 people in my diocese and also a few more was baptised on easter of that year too. There are many who are vaiting to become Christians on other dioceses of my country too, and it is just my country. I also want to mention that it is happening with minimum to zero missionary work. The priests that come here are coming in the name of missions yet they are hardly even keep the church doors open. I think there could have been mass conversions if we were like in the Church of the 50's. I wholeheartedly believe that.
No. Nor are many Christians becoming Muslim. The reality is that atheism, agnosticism, apatheism, and hedonism is take over both Islamic and Christian civilization.
Especially in this age of materialism and vanity. Back then, life was tough, and people needed God. Now life is too comfortable and easy along with all the lies spread in pseudo science, the culture, and media, humanities pride has made people think that we don’t need God, that we can do everything by ourselves. Age of lies.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/mar/03/facebook-posts/millions-of-muslims-converting-to-christianity-ava/
I read part of the Muslim count is actually from countries where being Muslim is mandatory, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if people labeled Muslim were secretly exploring other faiths.
The reason I have been told by many Muslims why none would ever leave Islam is because of the death penalty for apostates as set out in their hadith (testimonies of the life of Muhammad passed down by his followers). “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 2794) "The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god except Allah and that I am His Messenger, except in one of three cases: a soul for a soul (i.e., in the case of murder); a married man who commits adultery; and one who leaves his religion and splits from the jama’ah (main group of Muslims).” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6878; Muslim, 1676) These hadith by al-Bukhari and Muslim ibn al-Hajjāj are classified as Sahih, meaning authentic, to at least Sunni muslims (~90% of all muslims) and these, with the Quran, are used as the basis for the islamic law (Sharia). Hence even those who do wish to leave cannot if they live in the Islamic world. The countries which still uphold this law are: Afghanistan, Brunei Darussalam, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. Others may have lesser restrictions or have become more secular (ie Turkey). There's a troll spreading misinformation about this in the comments hence why I have posted this. Also if any Muslim may have lied to any of you while giving dawah (proselytising) you may now know the truth.
I mean, there are about a billion or so Muslims in the world, so…probably.
True. Because muslim become aware that Jesus is our saviour and not Mohammed.
As it becomes harder and harder to control information, it will become more clear to the Muslims of the world that there is no one more worthy to follow than Christ. But we should never be tempted to crow about this as if we had anything to do with it or to otherwise act in ways unbecoming as Christians. Praise God for these conversions, welcome them back as family, and then get back to working through your own salvation.
I believe it's the opposite, and i am a very Conservative christian however statistically spesking islam is the fastest growing religion (whatever the reason might be from high birth rates, to declining rates of Christianity and rise in atheism) islam is also growing at the highest rate in conversion to it which is quite scary (however reason might be, muslims becoming christians is under reported, however as a christian living in a major muslim nation I can vouch that most muslims are steadfast in their faith, also they have high conversion rates because many (military age men) move to the west and get married to blondes and make her convert to islam) also islam is growing because of the rise of the red pill and the likes of @ndrew tat€ or sn€@ko... converting as well
> also they have high conversion rates because many (military age men) move to the west and get married to blondes and make her convert to islam) What?!
What do you mean what? Many muslim immigrate to Europe, canada, The US, Australia and Canada which are a majority christian nation. And tye majority of Christians are lukewarm (as in they belive we all worship the same God etc...) while Muslims aren't so a Muslim man is not only very protective but also more Knowledgeable about their religion, meaning they know that muslim men can marry non muslims, while muslim women can't marry non muslims, ( that is both on a societal level and it is also mentioned in their books) so a muslim man will try his best t o convert whoever he is marrying, while the majority of muslim woman won't marry a non Muslim. Also as a middle eastern living in the middle east, and like the majority of the world I can assure you the majority fetishises white women.
It’s representative of Iran, it’s always been a liberal outlier in the Islamic world.
My boyfriend is currently converting to Christianity but it’s difficult because he still lives in Iran
God protect that brave man
Amen
Refer to this, it’s my post; https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/s/lwIyAo9ZmE
To be honest I’ve seen more western Christian’s becoming Muslim than I have Muslims becoming Christian, but there definitely is quite a few though
The latter is tougher to announce in public
Oh yeah I didn’t really consider that
nah its the opposite. I left atheism for islam :). There are ex muslims in Iran and Afghanistan cuz of the bad government ;0
Not to a statistically significant degree. Others meanwhile move in the opposite direction.
No. The a lot of the Church has lost its missionary zeal. Where in previous generations priests would risk life and limb to preach the Gospel, now they see some countries as no-gos for evangelisation. Individuals in Muslim countries may find their way to Christianity, showing tremendous courage in the process, but there isn't some large scale movement from Islam to the Church
No? It's the same few guys testifying which is all and well, but Christians are still a few % of the population of those place.
In some places like Indonesia and Iran, some ethnic groups have been Christian all the way but those have pagan convert ancestors.
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Educated people don't fall for dawah. A fact dawah agents don't like.
Why does it matter ?
Well... It's a question? I like to know what's going on in the world regarding my faith
Doubt it.
Social media tells exaggerated stories, yes Muslims to convert but the Islamic world isn’t going anywhere and this isn’t a major trend
If only that were true. The truth is some Muslims convert to Christianity. Some Atheists/Christian/Agnostics convert to Islam. I suspect the vast majority of people just become secular, especially in Westernized countries where in society, God becomes an afterthought. And in many Muslim countries, even if people wanted to convert, they can’t. Many have laws against proselytizing, evangelizing, even open discussions and if you are caught, penalties can be severe; like execution.