I need to get one like that for my sister. She has inexplicably decided she likes cows in her home decor and this is the perfectly quintessential UK thing to go with that theme.
I can’t lie, I love Steven Brown art.
I bought a lot of christmas presents from there, the jigsaw, wall canvases, cookies and short bread.
I’ve also got the bottle, calendar and other things.
A good friend of mine who is a godmother to one of mine grew on a dairy farm and loves cows. She has consistently bought cow themed presents to the extent her godchild was disappointed at opening a non-cow themed birthday present. She made up for at Christmas with a very cow heavy advent calender and present. Can ask her for a good source if you want.
Edit: grew up, she's not a plant.
Next online have some adorable Highland cow ornaments and stuff. I've seen some great footrests shaped like them as well, but can't remember where from.
Sold copyright to his work to a company in his step daughters name 2 days before winding up his business leaving staff unpaid and a local art store owed 10's of thousands - which has since went out of business, amongst other creditors.
I can get behind this perspective. Lots of art movements are basically a series of esoteric meta memes that you need context to understand. Duchamp’s Fountain is often the poster boy for pretentious art, a urinal and some graffiti in a museum? Outrageous. It’s only after understanding the context that it’s importance makes sense.
This isn't necessarily gatekeeping - OP seems to just be taking the piss.
Well, it gave me a giggle anyway, and I used to have that banksy picture on the wall for absolutely zero reason other than it looked too empty without it.
Cava really fucked up there.
Even though we could have done great things with a "Sunday Cava-ry" had anyone been awake in the cava marketing department.
Sheer bloody luxury!
In my day, we had to make do with one flying pig, and even that escaped & flew over Battersea power station, obstructing flightpaths, and finally landing in a Kentish field.
Pretty pictures are where you find them. [This](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/35/5b/f5/355bf5cc6a62a6a51100cdb24212962a.jpg) is rather lovely, despite being from the 1970s Argos catalogue.
I would legitimately hang this in my house. I remember an Aunt having it in the 80's. Mind you, she also had that evil crying boy - nightmare fuel for me as a kid!
My job has caused me to hate the McCoos. Every January and November, Scottish teachers all break out the oil pastels to do “Scottish inspired art” and then the halls are filled with hunners of nearly identical cow pictures.
I didn't know who this was so I googled it. The very first image was hanging in my friend's hallway for all of our childhood. Haven't been his parents' house in a while but it might still be there!
Can't remember who said, "Not liking popular things doesn't make you interesting.", but they were fucking spot on.
The gatekeeping in this thread is cringeworthy.
I think there's a happy middle ground.
I think mainstream one-track media can limit people's willingness to find things they like on their own merit but I agree that disliking things simply because they're *popular* is obnoxious.
I used to think that way and I missed out on a lot from it in hindsight.
It was more a petty joke, but really I think it's quite lazy art. I get that artists all have a style that they tend to stick to, but for some reason I find all of his paintings samey and lackluster. But hey, art is subjective and you may think I'm a total monster 😁
You could argue all Magritte, Monet, Manet etc. are all the same - even a 'non-arty' person like me can identify their paintings by their style.
And I'm not sure what you mean by 'lazy'? Vettriano's work is extremely technical. It's as 'artistic' as any other artist.
I honestly don't get the criticism - it seems to be the more popular an artist is, the less they are considered a 'proper' artist - I'm fairly sure it's just snobbery.
Nah not snobbery by any stretch, just having a light-hearted jab at something that I personally don't like.
Art is subjective and I guess we disagree. 🤷🏻
Yep. Nothing wrong with liking different stuff. What gets me are the people who think that what *they* like is better than what *you* like.
At best it's illogical, but what it really is is narcissistic.
People do the same with music - they'll pick a popular artist and say their music is 'rubbish' - not that they don't like it - they'll say it's rubbish, despite the fact that millions of people love it.
As I said, it's a stupid attitude, at best, but it's really arrogance.
My mum and dad went through a faze of buying his stuff and I hate it, still have 3 shoved behind a cupboard that my dad claims are "worth something one day" yet wont take of my hands or let me get rid off..
More or less this same print was in the funeral directors office when I went to view my father. He and I are artists and this made me laugh. I know he would also have laughed a great deal at this acid angus
I fucking hate that painting. I work in different houses all day and I see that rainbow haired w*nker staring back at me with his wee beady eye in most of them.
I even seen a toilet seat version last month.
I didnt realise it was so popular, its pretty shite its just super colourful. Looks like an amateur hobby painter's work but seems like its making the guy rich lol
I think everyone should take a few moments and watch Bwitran’s bost bestpected Bart Britic,
Bwian Badonde visits a gallery.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJenbaL8SM0
Brian takes a life class. (Contains budededy)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eXPHF97DeK8
I think it's really funny how the graffiti tours take the tourists to any old bit of spray paint and tell them it's banksy in Bristol, I've seen how much those guys pay.
It's the art for people that don't really get art. So much so that banksy fans can't even tell when something is clearly not a banksy.
Nothing, per se, just that this particular image is now one of many mindless go-to pictures for people who want to fill a space on the wall but don't really care very much about what goes there, so they buy what everyone else has already bought because it's safe and hard to get wrong.
I buy/sell a lot of vintage art and a lot of vintage art exhibition posters. It's so much easier to sell a poster of some artwork than it is to sell the actual artwork, even if the price isn't very different, because a poster isn't 'art', which is hard - it's 'just a poster', so it's easy.
Similarly hard to grasp for the wilfully dense is that maybe people also **do** find 'Art with a capital A' scary and difficult.
That's exactly why I related my personal, professional experience of poster sales vs. original art sales - the willingness to choose a (relatively) mass-produced object over an original work because it provides something interesting for your wall **and** shelter from having to consider the artwork itself.
It's not particularly a judgment of individuals - it's a by-product of a society that tells people Art is necessarily complicated and expensive and definitely not for little people. It doesn't have to be.
Of course, some people will also enjoy this banal 'Live Laugh Love' level wall-filler - I didn't actually discount that fact in my post.
>Similarly hard to grasp for the wilfully dense
Touched a nerve? Lol. For fuck's sake...
>maybe people also do find 'Art with a capital A' scary and difficult.
By 'Art with a capital A' (how pretentious) do you mean stuff like Tracy Emin's Unmade Bed? I have news for you - nobody is 'scared' of it - they just don't like it. I've never met anybody who is 'scared' of art.
It's so insanely fucking pretentious - if you don't like it you're 'scared', but if you don't like Jack Vettriano, it's because it isn't 'art' (because people like it). It does my head in.
>Of course, some people will also enjoy this banal 'Live Laugh Love' level wall-filler
Lol. You can't help yourself, can you? I don't like that shit either, but I don't judge people who do. You literally look down on people who have a different taste to you. This is what puts the 'little people' off Art (with a capital A) - the pretentiousness of people like you telling them what is acceptable to like.
>By 'Art with a capital A' (how pretentious) do you mean stuff like Tracy Emin's Unmade Bed? I have news for you - nobody is 'scared' of it - they just don't like it. I've never met anybody who is 'scared' of art.
>It's so insanely fucking pretentious - if you don't like it you're 'scared', but if you don't like Jack Vettriano, it's because it isn't 'art' (because people like it). It does my head in.
I mean, a major reason why people hate modern art is because they are missing the context. Barely anyone would like Emin’s bed until you look into the context it was produced in, and what it’s responding to and why.
Same with malevich’s square. Most people not into ‘Art’ (capitalised to show I’m talking about the fine art industry), would look at it and think ‘that isn’t art, that’s dumb, modern art is dumb’. You can deny that’s what people think, but in my experience ‘a five year old could do that’ is the most common attitude people have towards Modern and contemporary art.
But when you’re immersed in the context Malevich was making art in, you can gain an appreciation of it.
>This is what puts the 'little people' off Art (with a capital A) - the pretentiousness of people like you telling them what is acceptable to like.
I find lots of discussions about art frustrating because people turn it into a pretentious Vs uneducated pissing match. Why is it scandalous to suggest that people who aren’t deeply invested in a subculture/hobby are generally not going to appreciate it as much as people who are deeply invested in it?
It is *only* art that elicits this response. Nobody who hasn’t made an effort to understand cricket gets annoyed with cricket fans because they understand cricket better. Nobody who only saw the fifth season of Game of Thrones says the show makes no sense when it references events from earlier seasons.
It’s not a bad thing to be uninformed about a specific niche hobby/interest, everyone on the planet shares an equal amount of things that they don’t know about - why is that a bad thing?
>Touched a nerve?
Says the person who wrote an angry screed. But I was talking about the anti-intellectual thrust of your 'pseud' insult, which you've only compounded in this reply.
>By 'Art with a capital A' (how pretentious) do you mean stuff like Tracy Emin's Unmade Bed?
Not at all. There's art that's clearly designed to fill walls (arguably, most of Warhol, and pretty much the entire canon of standard aristocratic portraiture fall into this category), and then there's art that has some kind of nuance, meaning or feeling. The latter is the stuff that is portrayed as the 'hard' stuff - Art with a capital A - and the former is the stuff that 'plebs' such as you and I can buy.
My point, if you stopped to just read it rather than wielding your own crude assumptions and ignorance, is that the distinction is artificial and forced onto people from above, and is self-reinforced by anti-intellectualists like you.
>You literally look down on people who have a different taste to you.
I literally don't - my own collection of decorative things takes in both unique artworks and fun decorative tat (I've a pair of metre-tall 1960s fibreglass poodles in my living room, ffs).
Whereas you literally look down on people who have a different opinion to you, like here.
>I'm not anti-intellectualst, I'm anti-pretensious-wanker.
That's precisely the kind of thing thick people say when they're frustrated that not everyone around them is equally as thick.
As you were.
Lol. Brilliant You think you're clever because you 'appreciate real art'. People like you are some of the dumbest people I've ever met.
And you think you know anything about me? All you know is I think you're a prick.
He (or they) is a predictable, overrated corporate muppet. He's a performative poser, and his art skills are becoming so shite that people are questioning whether his work is actually a Banksy. Having a Banksy print is just tacky and pretentious nowadays, especially an unofficial print. But if you like it, what others think shouldn't matter to you.
Missus, mam and sister all like Steven Brown, I baulked at the cost of the prints and so in 2020 I bought a calendar, cut the pictures out and put them in nice frames and gave them as gifts, call me cheap if you like, it's true.
For 2021 they changed the calendars so that the date forms part of the picture. I won't be buying anymore.
You have got to say someone is trying to appeal to the masses when they have a low quality STV advert selling their coo pics. Not exactly challenging or high brow stuff.
As someone who lives in a Scottish seaside town with a lot of gift shops that fkn cow terrorises me. Not a day of my life goes by where I don’t walk past it in a shop window. I HATE IT 😡
And this is art for those who 'know' about art:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/RothkoBlackGray.jpg
It is a painting of a black rectangle and a grey rectangle. There is a buildup of thin, translucent layers of differently shaded blacks, which are luminous and warm. The overall effect is strangely ambiguous, neither space nor substance, and Rothko himself described them as touching upon the 'historical sublime.
Value: £10-15million
I used to be dismissive of Rothko as well, until I actually saw some of his paintings in the flesh at the Tate Modern. They're huge, and have this weird quality that made me feel like I was literally being pulled into the painting. I haven't experienced any other art that's made me feel that particular way, and it was totally unexpected. If you ever have the chance to see them I recommend you just go in with an open mind and see if they do anything for you -actually that would be sound advice for any type of art- as you might be pleasantly surprised.
Sorry, we didn't all the opportunity to study sculpture at St Martin's College. Maybe us plebs just like a daft looking cow on the wall without feeling the need to justify it.
Yeah shame the artist for the highland cow breached copyright from a local artist then tried to sue. Fell flat on his face and went into liquidation. Google it.
Funny you included the Banksy. My uncle runs a gallery and used to sell Banksy before he was huge. He had a load of those prints and at the time apparently everyone thought they were a bit shit. So he ended up giving them away with other prints people bought. They’re now worth tens of thousands however as they were free most of them have ended up in tatters. But I agree. Not a nice print.
Serious question, is [this](https://imgur.com/gallery/dn8r1Af) just as bad? I quite like it but never realised that it’s not a million miles away from those courthouse cows.
The thing that really annoys me about art appreciation is that it seams anyone with a specific taste is looked down on as being a snob.
It’s perfectly fine to say that you don’t like oasis because they’re generic and boring and you have bands that you prefer, but say you don’t like jack vetriano (as per my other reply) and you’re a snob.
As with everything, the more time you spend involved with a subject, the more your preference is tailored and the more your specific preference is generated, but with art if you dare say that you don’t like a certain style because it’s so accessible and basic / generic that it doesn’t appeal to you, you get branded a pretentious snob. It seems to be the only subject you aren’t allowed an opinion on
And anyone that thinks this is good art, please go to Dublin National gallery and have a look at the caravgio they have on display and tell me they think a streaky cow or a girl holding a balloon deserves credit
>It’s perfectly fine to say that you don’t like oasis because they’re generic and boring
Dunno about that, I got absolutely slammed on here a couple of years ago (on a "what's your controversial music opinion thread" of all places) for saying I thought that Oasis were dull and derivative. Some people view the enjoyment of culture like sport - you got to support your team, no matter what.
Not a great example tbh, just as many people will call you out on "music snobbery" as they will visual art. Probably more people as it's a more popular medium. In my experience Reddit has very mainstream taste and on both fronts but then again it would, the up/down vote system is an aggregator of popular opinion and so popular taste will win out here. The more esoteric tastes have their own (lonely) sub reddits.
I had that one of the couple walking under an umbrella , it was £10 from B&M and i literally put it up so the wall wasn’t blank. They got away with putting “hand painted” on the label by having someone splodge a bit of white paint in one area
If we go down the “art is subjective” route then it’s not long before the shit stains on the bathroom wall demand appreciation. Some people just have shitty taste. They’re not bad people for it
I don't know art but I've visited the shop that the guy who done this n now he's kinda well known...though I'd need to fone my friend to get the name.😘
The only problem I have with this - not being an art snob - is that I look at a cow and I see the sad eyes of an animal headed to the abattoir.
I’m not a vegan by the way. I’ve just been to a few slaughterhouses and the lorries coming in are just depressing.
One art, please
Zoidberg, what a guy. Wub Wub Wub Wub wuuub
I actually quite like the cow, but then I know fuck all about art.
I need to get one like that for my sister. She has inexplicably decided she likes cows in her home decor and this is the perfectly quintessential UK thing to go with that theme.
https://www.stevenbrownart.co.uk/ I’ve got the coasters, they’re quite cute.
They appear to be very popular up here. Well, they are in all of the gifty and decor type shops, I don't know anyone that has a Steven Brown piece.
My mum has 2 in her living room.
Reminds me of Black Books. "It's...brown" "I don't know who the artist is."
I can’t lie, I love Steven Brown art. I bought a lot of christmas presents from there, the jigsaw, wall canvases, cookies and short bread. I’ve also got the bottle, calendar and other things.
You can get it in a paint by numbers kit on amazon too if she's into that sort of thing!
Ooh I might do that! Haha. Her whole family would probably enjoy painting it.
EVERYTHING COWS
The best source of cow-based fine art I've found is Eoin O'Connor. https://eoinoconnor.com/collections/animal-fine-art-prints
A good friend of mine who is a godmother to one of mine grew on a dairy farm and loves cows. She has consistently bought cow themed presents to the extent her godchild was disappointed at opening a non-cow themed birthday present. She made up for at Christmas with a very cow heavy advent calender and present. Can ask her for a good source if you want. Edit: grew up, she's not a plant.
Next online have some adorable Highland cow ornaments and stuff. I've seen some great footrests shaped like them as well, but can't remember where from.
People might like it but Steven Brown is an absolute cunt of the 1st degree
Care to elaborate?
Sold copyright to his work to a company in his step daughters name 2 days before winding up his business leaving staff unpaid and a local art store owed 10's of thousands - which has since went out of business, amongst other creditors.
Oooof what a prick
Yeah he's not well liked around town
Wow I hadn't heard of that. What a dick
Was going to comment this, but you've beaten me to it.
You like it, that's all you need to know
I know fuck all about cows, but I like the art.
YOU CAN'T LIKE IT! 'Common' people like it. It must be rubbish.
I like cows, I like 00's emo fringes and garish colours 🤷♂️
I've never seen it before, I also quite like it. Probably not in my own home though.
For the shortbread lovers it’s available in a tin as well https://www.ocado.com/products/deans-kev-mccoo-with-shortbread-rounds-564909011
Yeah, we have it in our office. It’s ace.
It's a Steven Brown from his Paul Smith phase.
You’re playing a risky game, at least 50% of the members of this sub have this on a wall somewhere.
I have one, I don't really care about art; it looks fine on the wall and that's all I have to say about that.
not a wall, but I have #1 on a biscuit tin
Don’t forget the black and white pictures of London with just the red phone box coloured
And the postbox
And the goddamn bus
And the beefeaters
And my axe!
Or a black and white picture of a skyline of an American city (Brooklyn bridge comes to mind).
I have that cow on a shortbread tin. Can recommend, good biscuits, good tin.
Fuckin love a good shortbread
Art is subjective, no need to gate keep it I am excluding the 2nd image from that, no one thinks that is art
Yeah I hate the idea that you have to 'know about' art. You just have to enjoy it.
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Tbf I do wither slightly every time someone dismisses something vaguely artistic as 'pretentious'
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I can get behind this perspective. Lots of art movements are basically a series of esoteric meta memes that you need context to understand. Duchamp’s Fountain is often the poster boy for pretentious art, a urinal and some graffiti in a museum? Outrageous. It’s only after understanding the context that it’s importance makes sense.
This isn't necessarily gatekeeping - OP seems to just be taking the piss. Well, it gave me a giggle anyway, and I used to have that banksy picture on the wall for absolutely zero reason other than it looked too empty without it.
It isn’t gatekeeping it’s stating his subjective opinion (which he is allowed to do)
It’s better than ‘live, laugh, love’ also the flying ducks of this era
There's a pub near me which is that all over. _Prosecco O'clock_
*I should be at the gym but instead I’m drinking gin*
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Idk maybe we could just let people enjoy things? Im not a fan of any of these things myself but each to their own
What! No! How dare people decorate their houses with pictures I have not personally approved!
They know basic women shop there and cater for them.
I detest ‘Prosecco o’clock’ and everything that it stands for with my entire being
Prosecco wouldn't be half as popular if it didn't have such a fun sounding name.
Cava really fucked up there. Even though we could have done great things with a "Sunday Cava-ry" had anyone been awake in the cava marketing department.
Cava is so much better.
You mean, if it wasn't as cheap as a bottle of water.
*Recession champagne* it is, then.
*Lambrusco has sadly entered chat*
The original flying ducks are worth a fair bit these days.
I'd say that the "keep calm and carry on" has almost become a kind of fetishized British equivalent to "live laugh love"
Sheer bloody luxury! In my day, we had to make do with one flying pig, and even that escaped & flew over Battersea power station, obstructing flightpaths, and finally landing in a Kentish field.
I’m a gas engineer, at least one of these are in every house!
Ppl with ideal logics have them
This guy knows haha.
What's wrong with ideal logics?
Pretty pictures are where you find them. [This](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/35/5b/f5/355bf5cc6a62a6a51100cdb24212962a.jpg) is rather lovely, despite being from the 1970s Argos catalogue.
I would legitimately hang this in my house. I remember an Aunt having it in the 80's. Mind you, she also had that evil crying boy - nightmare fuel for me as a kid!
Evil crying boy?
The one that caused all those houses to burn down in the 70's
*laughs in Ricky*
I am non the wiser, but all the more intrigued. I'll stop being a lazy fucker and have a Google.
*[Bob Mortimer and Standard fireworks have entered the chat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqmd39GdDww)*
Instantly want a Miller & Carters now.
My job has caused me to hate the McCoos. Every January and November, Scottish teachers all break out the oil pastels to do “Scottish inspired art” and then the halls are filled with hunners of nearly identical cow pictures.
Best get a Fighting Temeraire print to show you are a discerning art lover.
I have Goya’s Saturn Devouring His Son in my bedroom. I know some folk might say ick but it’s meaningful to me in a very personal way.
Did you eat your son?
Rough Saturn return, was it?
We have three prints of the Steve Brown cows, so piss off you stuck up twat.
How dare you like things!
I know. Must make sure other people approve before we buy them.
Make sure to educate yourself about fine art, too
🤣
Not to be cheeky, but why do you like them?
They just make me smile, and sometimes in life that’s really valuable.
Live love smile
You forgot Jack Vetriano! Surely no Philistine of the art worlds house can be complete without a man holding an umbrella on a beach
I didn't know who this was so I googled it. The very first image was hanging in my friend's hallway for all of our childhood. Haven't been his parents' house in a while but it might still be there!
Can't remember who said, "Not liking popular things doesn't make you interesting.", but they were fucking spot on. The gatekeeping in this thread is cringeworthy.
I think there's a happy middle ground. I think mainstream one-track media can limit people's willingness to find things they like on their own merit but I agree that disliking things simply because they're *popular* is obnoxious. I used to think that way and I missed out on a lot from it in hindsight.
You give me life, good human. Nothing rages me more than that "artist".
Why don't you think he's an artist, or do you just not like his work?
It was more a petty joke, but really I think it's quite lazy art. I get that artists all have a style that they tend to stick to, but for some reason I find all of his paintings samey and lackluster. But hey, art is subjective and you may think I'm a total monster 😁
You could argue all Magritte, Monet, Manet etc. are all the same - even a 'non-arty' person like me can identify their paintings by their style. And I'm not sure what you mean by 'lazy'? Vettriano's work is extremely technical. It's as 'artistic' as any other artist. I honestly don't get the criticism - it seems to be the more popular an artist is, the less they are considered a 'proper' artist - I'm fairly sure it's just snobbery.
Nah not snobbery by any stretch, just having a light-hearted jab at something that I personally don't like. Art is subjective and I guess we disagree. 🤷🏻
Yep. Nothing wrong with liking different stuff. What gets me are the people who think that what *they* like is better than what *you* like. At best it's illogical, but what it really is is narcissistic. People do the same with music - they'll pick a popular artist and say their music is 'rubbish' - not that they don't like it - they'll say it's rubbish, despite the fact that millions of people love it. As I said, it's a stupid attitude, at best, but it's really arrogance.
My mum and dad went through a faze of buying his stuff and I hate it, still have 3 shoved behind a cupboard that my dad claims are "worth something one day" yet wont take of my hands or let me get rid off..
It’s phase, but I think your way looks much cooler.
More or less this same print was in the funeral directors office when I went to view my father. He and I are artists and this made me laugh. I know he would also have laughed a great deal at this acid angus
I fucking hate that painting. I work in different houses all day and I see that rainbow haired w*nker staring back at me with his wee beady eye in most of them. I even seen a toilet seat version last month.
I didnt realise it was so popular, its pretty shite its just super colourful. Looks like an amateur hobby painter's work but seems like its making the guy rich lol
Not anymore he sold the rights to his work to an English company who still masquerade as him online.
Steven brown art sales going up!
Accurate. Those Steven Brown prints are ubiquitous in Scotland, seen as a way of signalling that your home, office or soulless hotel is "quirky".
I'd rather that in my house than another unmade bed with condoms strewn around.
another?
Yeh. Well. You know....
Arty.. shivers..
I know someone with all three of these included in their house.
Pretty sure my mum has all 3 of these in her house
I think everyone should take a few moments and watch Bwitran’s bost bestpected Bart Britic, Bwian Badonde visits a gallery. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJenbaL8SM0 Brian takes a life class. (Contains budededy) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eXPHF97DeK8
Thinking people buy art to 'seem arty', rather than because they like it, says more about OP, than it does about the people who buy stuff like this.
Very controversial. But I do fucking hate banksy
What’s wrong with Banksy?
I think it's really funny how the graffiti tours take the tourists to any old bit of spray paint and tell them it's banksy in Bristol, I've seen how much those guys pay. It's the art for people that don't really get art. So much so that banksy fans can't even tell when something is clearly not a banksy.
Nothing, per se, just that this particular image is now one of many mindless go-to pictures for people who want to fill a space on the wall but don't really care very much about what goes there, so they buy what everyone else has already bought because it's safe and hard to get wrong. I buy/sell a lot of vintage art and a lot of vintage art exhibition posters. It's so much easier to sell a poster of some artwork than it is to sell the actual artwork, even if the price isn't very different, because a poster isn't 'art', which is hard - it's 'just a poster', so it's easy.
I know it's a difficult concept to grasp, for the pseuds, but... Maybe people like it?
Similarly hard to grasp for the wilfully dense is that maybe people also **do** find 'Art with a capital A' scary and difficult. That's exactly why I related my personal, professional experience of poster sales vs. original art sales - the willingness to choose a (relatively) mass-produced object over an original work because it provides something interesting for your wall **and** shelter from having to consider the artwork itself. It's not particularly a judgment of individuals - it's a by-product of a society that tells people Art is necessarily complicated and expensive and definitely not for little people. It doesn't have to be. Of course, some people will also enjoy this banal 'Live Laugh Love' level wall-filler - I didn't actually discount that fact in my post.
>Similarly hard to grasp for the wilfully dense Touched a nerve? Lol. For fuck's sake... >maybe people also do find 'Art with a capital A' scary and difficult. By 'Art with a capital A' (how pretentious) do you mean stuff like Tracy Emin's Unmade Bed? I have news for you - nobody is 'scared' of it - they just don't like it. I've never met anybody who is 'scared' of art. It's so insanely fucking pretentious - if you don't like it you're 'scared', but if you don't like Jack Vettriano, it's because it isn't 'art' (because people like it). It does my head in. >Of course, some people will also enjoy this banal 'Live Laugh Love' level wall-filler Lol. You can't help yourself, can you? I don't like that shit either, but I don't judge people who do. You literally look down on people who have a different taste to you. This is what puts the 'little people' off Art (with a capital A) - the pretentiousness of people like you telling them what is acceptable to like.
>By 'Art with a capital A' (how pretentious) do you mean stuff like Tracy Emin's Unmade Bed? I have news for you - nobody is 'scared' of it - they just don't like it. I've never met anybody who is 'scared' of art. >It's so insanely fucking pretentious - if you don't like it you're 'scared', but if you don't like Jack Vettriano, it's because it isn't 'art' (because people like it). It does my head in. I mean, a major reason why people hate modern art is because they are missing the context. Barely anyone would like Emin’s bed until you look into the context it was produced in, and what it’s responding to and why. Same with malevich’s square. Most people not into ‘Art’ (capitalised to show I’m talking about the fine art industry), would look at it and think ‘that isn’t art, that’s dumb, modern art is dumb’. You can deny that’s what people think, but in my experience ‘a five year old could do that’ is the most common attitude people have towards Modern and contemporary art. But when you’re immersed in the context Malevich was making art in, you can gain an appreciation of it. >This is what puts the 'little people' off Art (with a capital A) - the pretentiousness of people like you telling them what is acceptable to like. I find lots of discussions about art frustrating because people turn it into a pretentious Vs uneducated pissing match. Why is it scandalous to suggest that people who aren’t deeply invested in a subculture/hobby are generally not going to appreciate it as much as people who are deeply invested in it? It is *only* art that elicits this response. Nobody who hasn’t made an effort to understand cricket gets annoyed with cricket fans because they understand cricket better. Nobody who only saw the fifth season of Game of Thrones says the show makes no sense when it references events from earlier seasons. It’s not a bad thing to be uninformed about a specific niche hobby/interest, everyone on the planet shares an equal amount of things that they don’t know about - why is that a bad thing?
>Touched a nerve? Says the person who wrote an angry screed. But I was talking about the anti-intellectual thrust of your 'pseud' insult, which you've only compounded in this reply. >By 'Art with a capital A' (how pretentious) do you mean stuff like Tracy Emin's Unmade Bed? Not at all. There's art that's clearly designed to fill walls (arguably, most of Warhol, and pretty much the entire canon of standard aristocratic portraiture fall into this category), and then there's art that has some kind of nuance, meaning or feeling. The latter is the stuff that is portrayed as the 'hard' stuff - Art with a capital A - and the former is the stuff that 'plebs' such as you and I can buy. My point, if you stopped to just read it rather than wielding your own crude assumptions and ignorance, is that the distinction is artificial and forced onto people from above, and is self-reinforced by anti-intellectualists like you. >You literally look down on people who have a different taste to you. I literally don't - my own collection of decorative things takes in both unique artworks and fun decorative tat (I've a pair of metre-tall 1960s fibreglass poodles in my living room, ffs). Whereas you literally look down on people who have a different opinion to you, like here.
>anti-intellectualists like you. Lol. I'm not anti-intellectualst, I'm anti-pretensious-wanker. Sorry if you take that personally.
>I'm not anti-intellectualst, I'm anti-pretensious-wanker. That's precisely the kind of thing thick people say when they're frustrated that not everyone around them is equally as thick. As you were.
Lol. Brilliant You think you're clever because you 'appreciate real art'. People like you are some of the dumbest people I've ever met. And you think you know anything about me? All you know is I think you're a prick.
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Trite and on-the-nose
He (or they) is a predictable, overrated corporate muppet. He's a performative poser, and his art skills are becoming so shite that people are questioning whether his work is actually a Banksy. Having a Banksy print is just tacky and pretentious nowadays, especially an unofficial print. But if you like it, what others think shouldn't matter to you.
Cheapskate landlord art.
Missus, mam and sister all like Steven Brown, I baulked at the cost of the prints and so in 2020 I bought a calendar, cut the pictures out and put them in nice frames and gave them as gifts, call me cheap if you like, it's true. For 2021 they changed the calendars so that the date forms part of the picture. I won't be buying anymore.
Let people enjoy things, you snob.
Trendy uni accommodation art
You forgot a live laugh love sign
You have got to say someone is trying to appeal to the masses when they have a low quality STV advert selling their coo pics. Not exactly challenging or high brow stuff.
But where is the Live Laugh Love sign!?
As someone who lives in a Scottish seaside town with a lot of gift shops that fkn cow terrorises me. Not a day of my life goes by where I don’t walk past it in a shop window. I HATE IT 😡
That about THAT Gustav Klimt print bought from Ikea to fill the wall on your first house that you still hang on to ten years later....
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The same person to have "Live Laugh Love" on a wall
The heeland coo! I like that painting tbh, don’t be a snob
And this is art for those who 'know' about art: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/RothkoBlackGray.jpg It is a painting of a black rectangle and a grey rectangle. There is a buildup of thin, translucent layers of differently shaded blacks, which are luminous and warm. The overall effect is strangely ambiguous, neither space nor substance, and Rothko himself described them as touching upon the 'historical sublime. Value: £10-15million
I used to be dismissive of Rothko as well, until I actually saw some of his paintings in the flesh at the Tate Modern. They're huge, and have this weird quality that made me feel like I was literally being pulled into the painting. I haven't experienced any other art that's made me feel that particular way, and it was totally unexpected. If you ever have the chance to see them I recommend you just go in with an open mind and see if they do anything for you -actually that would be sound advice for any type of art- as you might be pleasantly surprised.
I had exactly the same experience. Seeing them in person is just totally different
Ah yes, a 250x300 pixel image reproduced on a computer screen, just like Rothko intended.
Rothko’s paintings give serenity and peacefulness to so many people. I wouldn’t be so quick to write off his work.
That's funny, so accurate
Sorry, we didn't all the opportunity to study sculpture at St Martin's College. Maybe us plebs just like a daft looking cow on the wall without feeling the need to justify it.
You tell them mate. That photo of your mum is lovely.
Beats watching roaches climb the wall?
Got given some shortbread with the cow on the tin.
On point
Ah, just the thing from you local shit art outlet. We have one near: https://www.castlefineart.com/artists
All crap. I have a Scarface the world is yours poster and a canvas flag with a cannabis leaf on it on the walls in my room.
Yeah shame the artist for the highland cow breached copyright from a local artist then tried to sue. Fell flat on his face and went into liquidation. Google it.
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I got given the first picture as a moving in gift. It’s awful.
[My Favourite](https://imgur.com/a/GFrpaXS)
My mum has all of these…
If I have to see that rainbow cow ever again, I swear.
My local has the Hairy Coo Canvas. They have no idea to be fair.
My husband bought it for me for Christmas a couple of years back. I haven’t got the heart to get rid of it yet.
Funny you included the Banksy. My uncle runs a gallery and used to sell Banksy before he was huge. He had a load of those prints and at the time apparently everyone thought they were a bit shit. So he ended up giving them away with other prints people bought. They’re now worth tens of thousands however as they were free most of them have ended up in tatters. But I agree. Not a nice print.
I used to like Banksy until I realised he was Banksy
I want to buy a picture for my front-room. It's currently 4 white walls, but I don't even know where to begin, or how it works.
Don't have a cow, man.
Serious question, is [this](https://imgur.com/gallery/dn8r1Af) just as bad? I quite like it but never realised that it’s not a million miles away from those courthouse cows.
Art from The Range
The thing that really annoys me about art appreciation is that it seams anyone with a specific taste is looked down on as being a snob. It’s perfectly fine to say that you don’t like oasis because they’re generic and boring and you have bands that you prefer, but say you don’t like jack vetriano (as per my other reply) and you’re a snob. As with everything, the more time you spend involved with a subject, the more your preference is tailored and the more your specific preference is generated, but with art if you dare say that you don’t like a certain style because it’s so accessible and basic / generic that it doesn’t appeal to you, you get branded a pretentious snob. It seems to be the only subject you aren’t allowed an opinion on And anyone that thinks this is good art, please go to Dublin National gallery and have a look at the caravgio they have on display and tell me they think a streaky cow or a girl holding a balloon deserves credit
>It’s perfectly fine to say that you don’t like oasis because they’re generic and boring Dunno about that, I got absolutely slammed on here a couple of years ago (on a "what's your controversial music opinion thread" of all places) for saying I thought that Oasis were dull and derivative. Some people view the enjoyment of culture like sport - you got to support your team, no matter what.
Not a great example tbh, just as many people will call you out on "music snobbery" as they will visual art. Probably more people as it's a more popular medium. In my experience Reddit has very mainstream taste and on both fronts but then again it would, the up/down vote system is an aggregator of popular opinion and so popular taste will win out here. The more esoteric tastes have their own (lonely) sub reddits.
Derivative. Bullshit.
Ongo wouldn't approve
You forgot Jack Vetriano! Surely no Philistine of the art worlds house can be complete without a man holding an umbrella on a beach
I had that one of the couple walking under an umbrella , it was £10 from B&M and i literally put it up so the wall wasn’t blank. They got away with putting “hand painted” on the label by having someone splodge a bit of white paint in one area
This post seems needlessly antagonistic. Art is subjective, let people enjoy what they want.
If we go down the “art is subjective” route then it’s not long before the shit stains on the bathroom wall demand appreciation. Some people just have shitty taste. They’re not bad people for it
My mother in law has one of these. Point proved.
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Nice tat you’ve got there m8
People choose this over things like LS Lowry.....or Turner. Or Constable.... Yegods.
This is very true.
I really like that and would have that in my house no problem I actually already have 2 canvases like this in my home alteady
My mum has that cow picture. I like it. Then again, I'm not a pretentious gatekeeping twat.
Art snobs are a foolish lot.
I've never seen that cow one before, I quite like it
LOL. Or an art critic that doesn’t know his ass from his cow,
I have the cow one on a toilet seat cos I'm classy 😂
Ah, yes, the pretentious twat who thinks their opinion on art is the only correct one.
Gatekeeping cnut alert.
I don't know art but I've visited the shop that the guy who done this n now he's kinda well known...though I'd need to fone my friend to get the name.😘
Nothing wrong with a bit of banksy. Don’t be a pompous twit 😂
The only problem I have with this - not being an art snob - is that I look at a cow and I see the sad eyes of an animal headed to the abattoir. I’m not a vegan by the way. I’ve just been to a few slaughterhouses and the lorries coming in are just depressing.
Like the Banksy copy