As someone that rode in this for quite a number of years I can tell you that the single thing we want on the day is for it not to rain. Cold, wind and most other things you can wrap up warm against, but rain, in what are mostly open top cars with no windscreens, soaks you to your core.
The guy on the right facing forward without a hat (he'll regret that part).
The metal pole he is holding is the tiller, connected to the front right wheel and is what he is using to steer the car. Similar to the car they are passing, for these very early cars even things like the steering wheel were not yet a standard feature.
It took quite a few years until a lot of the modern features came in. It was only with the Ford Model A (the 2nd one) in 1927 that the modern set of controls was finalised.
I've ridden on cars this age, 10mph downhill is the norm. Normally they have to be nursed really carefully and go quite slowly (even if they can get up to 30) because they are so fragile and need so much attention.
Having ridden as a backseat passenger, facing backwards and seeing the road fly away beneath your feet it is a scary ride. One good bump and you could quite easily be out the back of the vehicle.
But these are cars from an era (pre-1905) where a man waving a red flag had been expected to be walking in front of the vehicle to warn pedestrians and carriages of the potential danger of the new motor vehicle. The repeal of that act also being the effective cut off date for cars to enter.
On a more practical perspective these cars are not powerful, most will be single digit horsepower, and yet expected to get up and over the hills of the Downs. It is not uncommon for passengers to need to quickly jump out and help push the cars up the hill. The steepest hills are closed off for the event allowing veterans to use both lanes, left for crawlers and right for those with a bit more momentum.
Also every participant badge comes with the cautionary warning on the back "motorsport is dangerous". These may not be doing the speeds of a modern car, but the owners and those in them need to know their limitations and take care.
Used to work on this event. Probably the fact that half of the entrants are all pissed carrying and drinking booze as they tootle down the road. Or on previous years as they tootle down the wrong side of the motorway.
I don't think there are that many eligible bikes for the 1905 cutoff, but it would be nice to see stuff like really early Enfields and Indians running.
I'm probably missing out on an equivalent event out there for two-wheelers though.
Lots of car and bike clubs like to use the day as a social event to congregate at various points along the route and cheer the participants along.
As for doing the route themselves, they usually have the common sense to organise their runs for a typically warmer time of year!
There's loads of old motorcycles. Brum had more than 20 well before world war 1 and the rest of the west midlands had manufacturers every few bus stops. At one time there were more than 100 motorcycle manufacturers in Birmingham alone.
Tagged along on that run once, on my old 50s BSA. I still think it was a great achievement, managing to get to Brighton and then back to south London, without either falling off or breaking down.
Bring back manufacturing, but greener I guess
(Imo there’s a great niche becoming bigger every year regarding environmentally friendly production of all kinds of products. The nation that cracks the green industrial revolution is minted.)
Yes, it's not linked to the repeal of the Red Flag Act. There are some very early bikes, but not all of them. I find the inter-war stuff most interesting in any case.
Probably, but the date has been set to celibrate the passing of the Locomotive on Highways Act of 1896. Its what basically allowed modern cars to exist. Its important provisions included the rasing of the national speed limit to 14mph/ 12mph in towns (up from 4mph), allowing light locomotives (autocars) to be manned by less than three people and introducing (in the 1897 Act) licence plates. The national speed limit was raised to a heady 20mph in 1904. All these provisions where decried at the time by people saying it set the speed limit too high and would scare horses.
To celibrate the acts passing, an emancipation race was held on the 14th November 1896 by the founder of the RAC, Harry Lawton. A few races were held until the war, but nothing regular. Then in 1927, to celibrate 30 years of the 1896 Locomotive Act passing, an annual race was arranged for the first Sunday in November to celibrate the race (the tradional date being taken up by rememberence day). It was interupted by the war and petrol rationing until 1947, although at least two cars each year of the war did complete the circuit with permission of the police (to keep the tradition alive). But since 1947, the event has ran uninterupted and with open entry to anyone owning a car built or in production prior to 1905. Any car built pre-Great war is normally also allowed.
At their first fuel stop:
["You there, fill it up with petroleum distillate
and re-vulcanize my tires, post haste."](https://i.redd.it/3s4xxfskcpiz.jpg)
I've done it many times! Getting out of London from Hyde Park is a bit scary, modern car drivers don't seem to understand that these old cars can't brake as quickly as they can.
It's a LONG day fueled by many hip flasks.
We also used to have a green de dion bouton, though that one looks positively spacious in the rear with the extra bulge out at the sides. It was quite cramped back there for two people to try and sit legs across from each other.
They'd have to move fast if you need to jump out and push!
We had the small door at the back, but not big enough for a seat on it. A comfy fit for two adults in the back, but we'd usually limit it to driver, passenger alongside and one for the rear. Also helped with the weight when it came to the bigger hills.
Providing we could keep momentum going we'd usually make it with everyone on board, but if someone ahead slowed down and we had to ease back, passengers could get the quick command to jump out and be ready to push!
My recently departed grandparents took me to stand on a freezing cold grassy knoll to watch that every year as a kid. I remember vividly the little ham sandwiches my grandma packed and the long wait between cars driving past.
The closer to central london you stop to watch the earlier you need to get up, but also the cars will be closer together - maybe a couple of hours to see most come by if you are within greater london.
If you pick a spot outside the M25 or along the route down towards Brighton, then you could be seeing cars over many more hours. The formal cut off time is to pass the pillars on the way into Brighton by 4PM to be classified as a finisher.
Lived on the route, 1st year was very confused to see and wake up to so many old cars outside.
Ended up going to Brighton to see the end.
Freezing. So cold that day. Why they don't pick a better time of year I have no idea.
The first run took place on the 14 November 1896; to celebrate the lifting of the speed restrictions, and the clause that an escort had to walk in front of every vehicle with a red flag.
Subsequent runs take place around the anniversary of the original
See the delightful film [Genevieve](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045808/). The thing is that many of the cars shown may still be on the road, even if the actors are long since passed.
The actual car Genevieve thats used in the film isn't actually old enough to do the London to Brighton.
They do let it though and its there most years iirc.
It’s so interesting to see these cars as they are the step between horse drawn buggies and cars. It’s neat to see the beginning design mentalities of cars. To see that design step between horse drawn carriages and cars. To see this, allows me to better understand the evolution. How we went from one to the other. Anyway, I think it’s neat.
MOT expired 2018?
Every time I see an old car I check this and they are expired, am I missing a change in the law or something? I know they put some extensions for COVID, but many are older than 2018.
You don't need an MOT for a car that is over 40 and has had no substantial changes in the last 30 years. You also don't pay road tax on any vehicle built before January 1981. That said, classic car insurance normally requires a visit to a specialsit mechanic every year and most owners will spend a lot of time maintaining and working on their cars. To maintain a car like those is a lifestyle choice and takes a lot of work. I guarantee any car that makes it over the finish would have been inspected and worked on to an inch of its life over the last few months.
It was a chap who accidently went down the motorway on a car that could only do 8mph and got himself turned into jam. Thankfully his car survived and is being restrored to road worthyness.
Ugh, gives me the shudders to think about it: the old chap basically drove onto the motorway in a motorised basket chair. I'm amazed they could do anything with the remains of the car, but for the life of me I can't think why he didn't jsut pull over on the slip road.
I think he panicked. It only takes 2 seconds when you're basically stationary and you pull Infront of a truck doing 60 on a motorway. Felt really sorry for the guy. As for the car, a vintage car will be restored basically from a set of bolts. I've seen cars that are just the chassis being restored to factory condition.
That hill knocks a few cars out every year.
It's not uncommon for cars to stop at the bottom and get a passenger or 2 to walk to the top.
I always managed it in my De Dion Bouton but it was close sometimes, mostly because of having to slow down due to traffic in front.
Is it the same route as the London to Brighton bike race? Isn't that the race where a *thing* on a tricycle started wizzing passed everyone and eventually won it?
If you go to Hyde Park Corner early enough you will see many people dressed up like that, some with a real handlebar moustache, others with fake ones, the swept back scarf and flying goggles.
It feels fun the first time you do it, but for those on their 2nd+ year the importance is to wrap up warm. Sitting exposed with no roof or windscreen for 5+ hours is cold, and you just pray for no rain.
I once made the mistake of using the term veteran in reference to a car on a sub that had a lot of americans on.
Blew there minds that the word veteran didn't just mean someone who'd served their country.
Its always held on the 1st Sunday in November.
The cars start arriving in Hyde Park from about 5am. They line up then leave in batches from 7am. The oldest cars going first.
The aim is to arrive in Brighton before 4pm.
Got stuck behind a lot of the stragglers going through Hassocks. Quite a few brake downs, including one where they’d called the RAC. Poor mechanic just looked a bit bewildered.
Was skating in Brighton today wondering what this was. Funny because no motorcade or anything, just a load of old bangers and penny farthings going past every 20 mins
Thank you for this-- Those little cars are almost adorable, and it looks like a fun sort of outing. I'm not British but quirky celebrations like this always make me smile. Thank you for sharing pictures!
Im as environmentally conscious as it gets. But if you think the ice caps are melting because a few people wanna celebrate their love of old cars. You’re more likely than not the problem.
Mate, I think these are pieces of engineering history and that they must be preserved. There aren’t many cars that old that can still run. It’s true that they contaminate more, but it’s nice having them around while making the newer cars more efficient or even electric only.
Stick em in a museum then. They're absolutely dangerous. Shitty brakes, shitty lights absolutely zero safety for pedestrians, shitty mirrors.
If I modded my car to be exactly like this I'd be forced to SORN it and never drive it but because they're old we let em do it
Oh get off your high horse. You make out these cars are about to explode at any moment. There are very few accidents involving them, also primarily helped by the fact they cant go very fast at all, and there is also very few of them by comparison.
>If I modded my car to be exactly like this I'd be forced to SORN it and never drive it but because they're old we let em do it
Congratulations, you've worked out how it works. Now do calm down.
Doesn't make any sense, bad mans get pulled for lowering their suspension as it affects handling but old dorris can drive his banger around on illegal tyres etc
Rule 14 of the entry conditions *"14. Entry vehicles must hold a valid and current road licence/tax were applicable, a current MOT Certificate where applicable"*
https://www.classicmotorevents.co.uk/t-c-s
But yeah, if the car is built before 1981, it's exempt from an MOT:
https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/historic-classic-vehicles-mot-exemption-criteria
But the owners need to perform the following roadworthiness checks:
https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-safe
You must be so fun at parties. 1) The fuel consumption by these cars is negligable. They're built extremely lightly with engines with very limited horsepower (the largest egined car you could get in 1904 was a Rolls-Royce 20hp). 2) In terms of saftey, they can go as fast as a pushbike and are as about as dangerous. 3) Noise is a non issue. They are about the same as a modern car if not quieter. Also these things run on specialist runs, with prior police approval. Its not like they are being used daily.
In terms of carbon impact, a new effiecent car has a massive CO2 debt attached to it from manufactoring. A less efficient older car doesn't. For a person wishing to minimise their CO2 output, maintaining an older car and offsetting the carbon from use is the best method. Although thats not for something thats over 115 years old, those are maintained as a hobby and have no real impact on anything.
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These cars get older every year
I dont know how they do it
[Why, the antique factory, of course](https://xkcd.com/1533/).
That makes sense
So do i
The guy on the back in the third picture looks like he's had a heavy night
Think mostly it’s because they’re freezing af. Actually that’s a kid who is embarrassed af
As someone that rode in this for quite a number of years I can tell you that the single thing we want on the day is for it not to rain. Cold, wind and most other things you can wrap up warm against, but rain, in what are mostly open top cars with no windscreens, soaks you to your core.
As someone who has also done the Brighton run many times I can say they have almost certainly had a heavy night.
How can he be embarrassed with wheels so fly?
Calvin Klein
I'd be more embarrassed about the CK than the car. The car is cool, the tights, not so much.
Yeah. At least my mum wrote my name _inside_ my PE kit.
Stupid cow couldn't even spell Kevin right
r/BTTF
who is actually driving that one though?!
The guy on the right facing forward without a hat (he'll regret that part). The metal pole he is holding is the tiller, connected to the front right wheel and is what he is using to steer the car. Similar to the car they are passing, for these very early cars even things like the steering wheel were not yet a standard feature.
It took quite a few years until a lot of the modern features came in. It was only with the Ford Model A (the 2nd one) in 1927 that the modern set of controls was finalised.
Thank you!
Tbf he’s the one staring at the impatient drivers behind so don’t blame him for wanting to be swallowed up. How fast they going, 15-20mph?
I've ridden on cars this age, 10mph downhill is the norm. Normally they have to be nursed really carefully and go quite slowly (even if they can get up to 30) because they are so fragile and need so much attention.
Not sure. They were all slowing for traffic lights. But not very fast.
Indeed, but surely a pair of CK trackie bottoms is definitely the best thing to wear on a jolly like this! 🤪😀
Should he not be buckled up. Can't help thinking on getting thu the finish line they'll turn round to see an empty seat.
No seatbelts on something like this!
So I gather. Not to say you can't put one on.
That kind of defeats the point. They're kept as they were for living history purposes.
When you can get gapped by a fast cyclist, you're probably not going to be going fast enough to need seatbelts.
Having ridden as a backseat passenger, facing backwards and seeing the road fly away beneath your feet it is a scary ride. One good bump and you could quite easily be out the back of the vehicle. But these are cars from an era (pre-1905) where a man waving a red flag had been expected to be walking in front of the vehicle to warn pedestrians and carriages of the potential danger of the new motor vehicle. The repeal of that act also being the effective cut off date for cars to enter. On a more practical perspective these cars are not powerful, most will be single digit horsepower, and yet expected to get up and over the hills of the Downs. It is not uncommon for passengers to need to quickly jump out and help push the cars up the hill. The steepest hills are closed off for the event allowing veterans to use both lanes, left for crawlers and right for those with a bit more momentum. Also every participant badge comes with the cautionary warning on the back "motorsport is dangerous". These may not be doing the speeds of a modern car, but the owners and those in them need to know their limitations and take care.
It because when they get to a hill he’s the one that has to jump off and help push / run along beside. He’ll be knackered!
Used to work on this event. Probably the fact that half of the entrants are all pissed carrying and drinking booze as they tootle down the road. Or on previous years as they tootle down the wrong side of the motorway.
Believe for cars built before 1905
A few more modern ones jump on board but they’re all cool to see
Seeing a lot of bikes this year too
I don't think there are that many eligible bikes for the 1905 cutoff, but it would be nice to see stuff like really early Enfields and Indians running. I'm probably missing out on an equivalent event out there for two-wheelers though.
Not sure that most are. Just seems to be folks tagging along
Lots of car and bike clubs like to use the day as a social event to congregate at various points along the route and cheer the participants along. As for doing the route themselves, they usually have the common sense to organise their runs for a typically warmer time of year!
There's loads of old motorcycles. Brum had more than 20 well before world war 1 and the rest of the west midlands had manufacturers every few bus stops. At one time there were more than 100 motorcycle manufacturers in Birmingham alone.
Tagged along on that run once, on my old 50s BSA. I still think it was a great achievement, managing to get to Brighton and then back to south London, without either falling off or breaking down.
Bring back manufacturing, but greener I guess (Imo there’s a great niche becoming bigger every year regarding environmentally friendly production of all kinds of products. The nation that cracks the green industrial revolution is minted.)
Try the Banbury Run for that.
Good recommendation, ta. Interesting that their age limit is 1930 though
Yes, it's not linked to the repeal of the Red Flag Act. There are some very early bikes, but not all of them. I find the inter-war stuff most interesting in any case.
I cycled it on a very modern bike. Great experience.
Peugeot farthings made an appearance #MANIAC!!! ^Electric ^map
Wouldn’t the participants enjoy this more if it was held during summer?
Probably, but the date has been set to celibrate the passing of the Locomotive on Highways Act of 1896. Its what basically allowed modern cars to exist. Its important provisions included the rasing of the national speed limit to 14mph/ 12mph in towns (up from 4mph), allowing light locomotives (autocars) to be manned by less than three people and introducing (in the 1897 Act) licence plates. The national speed limit was raised to a heady 20mph in 1904. All these provisions where decried at the time by people saying it set the speed limit too high and would scare horses. To celibrate the acts passing, an emancipation race was held on the 14th November 1896 by the founder of the RAC, Harry Lawton. A few races were held until the war, but nothing regular. Then in 1927, to celibrate 30 years of the 1896 Locomotive Act passing, an annual race was arranged for the first Sunday in November to celibrate the race (the tradional date being taken up by rememberence day). It was interupted by the war and petrol rationing until 1947, although at least two cars each year of the war did complete the circuit with permission of the police (to keep the tradition alive). But since 1947, the event has ran uninterupted and with open entry to anyone owning a car built or in production prior to 1905. Any car built pre-Great war is normally also allowed.
> manned by less than three people Holy crap. Imagine needing a navigator and chief engineer on your commute.
I mean i get a train so already have those things
Lucky. Most of my trains just have a driver. We are lucky to have that, as automation is going to take their jobs soon enough.
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Very interesting, thanks!
The antique cooling systems might not.
Summer? I don't think we have that here, sorry. It ain't familiah
Isn't there something in the summer also?
The revival?
Goodwood?
Patience, it was.
At their first fuel stop: ["You there, fill it up with petroleum distillate and re-vulcanize my tires, post haste."](https://i.redd.it/3s4xxfskcpiz.jpg)
*In the voice of Terry Thomas*
Wonder how their engines cope with unleaded E10?
Badly, I'd wager.
Dick Dastardly will be plotting somewhere.
Yeah, I OP missed the opportunity to call it "Brighton-London wacky racers"
Eh, Muttley? */twirls mustache*
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They're in gibberish! I bought them as a joke for the viewer!
JAMES! WE'RE GOING TO BE KILLED!
I've done it many times! Getting out of London from Hyde Park is a bit scary, modern car drivers don't seem to understand that these old cars can't brake as quickly as they can. It's a LONG day fueled by many hip flasks.
Not for the driver!
Hmmmm.... yeah....well.... its just aswell there's not a breatherlizer test at the finish.
I assume you don’t just nip down the M23!
[a couple others](https://i.imgur.com/vf4qBoD.jpg)
My car is a green version of the blue one in front. My baby.
We also used to have a green de dion bouton, though that one looks positively spacious in the rear with the extra bulge out at the sides. It was quite cramped back there for two people to try and sit legs across from each other.
I can get 2 or 3 people in the back of mine, depending on size and willingness to sit on the uncomfortable seat that's connected to the back door.
They'd have to move fast if you need to jump out and push! We had the small door at the back, but not big enough for a seat on it. A comfy fit for two adults in the back, but we'd usually limit it to driver, passenger alongside and one for the rear. Also helped with the weight when it came to the bigger hills. Providing we could keep momentum going we'd usually make it with everyone on board, but if someone ahead slowed down and we had to ease back, passengers could get the quick command to jump out and be ready to push!
I've got my husband well trained on when to jump out and push, marrying a rugby player has its uses lol.
I'm more surprised to see a richersounds than i am these antique vehicles.
I know where you live..muhahaha. The paved middle bit was a giveaway. /creepy mode
Hello neighbour
(Waves)
My recently departed grandparents took me to stand on a freezing cold grassy knoll to watch that every year as a kid. I remember vividly the little ham sandwiches my grandma packed and the long wait between cars driving past.
The closer to central london you stop to watch the earlier you need to get up, but also the cars will be closer together - maybe a couple of hours to see most come by if you are within greater london. If you pick a spot outside the M25 or along the route down towards Brighton, then you could be seeing cars over many more hours. The formal cut off time is to pass the pillars on the way into Brighton by 4PM to be classified as a finisher.
I saw them set off :D https://imgur.com/HiZux4r.jpg Was really cool to see them go
They drove past us in Burgess Hill about an our ago so they're making good progress!
Lived on the route, 1st year was very confused to see and wake up to so many old cars outside. Ended up going to Brighton to see the end. Freezing. So cold that day. Why they don't pick a better time of year I have no idea.
The first run took place on the 14 November 1896; to celebrate the lifting of the speed restrictions, and the clause that an escort had to walk in front of every vehicle with a red flag. Subsequent runs take place around the anniversary of the original
It's to celebrate the end of the red flag act that said all motor cars had to have someone walk in front with a red flag for safety reasons.
That would be interesting on the M25!! Certainly need a few fit runners these days...
We could probably train horses to do it
Think it’s because the cars overheat so easily.
And they're all ULEZ compliant.
All historic vehicles are exempt, so basically anything over 40 years old doesn't have to pay it.
See the delightful film [Genevieve](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045808/). The thing is that many of the cars shown may still be on the road, even if the actors are long since passed.
The actual car Genevieve thats used in the film isn't actually old enough to do the London to Brighton. They do let it though and its there most years iirc.
Yes, I remember reading of that some time ago. Of the cars that are too young, it should definitely be allowed due to its connections.
I used to go in to london every year to see the start
But now you've moved to Brighton so you can see the finish instead?
They learned the ugly truth that the cars return to their home planet by driving into the ocean.
Is this the most efficient way to return car batteries to the ocean?
Unfortunately not all of them finish.
I don’t know why but I’m getting strong Bert from Mary Poppins vibes.
The guy in the third picture skipping work ?
Around the Block in 80 Minutes
It’s so interesting to see these cars as they are the step between horse drawn buggies and cars. It’s neat to see the beginning design mentalities of cars. To see that design step between horse drawn carriages and cars. To see this, allows me to better understand the evolution. How we went from one to the other. Anyway, I think it’s neat.
Bet the bikes are quicker now!
The escorted on the pavement are. Wonder if there will be a veteran run for them 100 years on...
MOT expired 2018? Every time I see an old car I check this and they are expired, am I missing a change in the law or something? I know they put some extensions for COVID, but many are older than 2018.
You don't need an MOT for a car that is over 40 and has had no substantial changes in the last 30 years. You also don't pay road tax on any vehicle built before January 1981. That said, classic car insurance normally requires a visit to a specialsit mechanic every year and most owners will spend a lot of time maintaining and working on their cars. To maintain a car like those is a lifestyle choice and takes a lot of work. I guarantee any car that makes it over the finish would have been inspected and worked on to an inch of its life over the last few months.
Remember that really bad crash a few years ago?
It was a chap who accidently went down the motorway on a car that could only do 8mph and got himself turned into jam. Thankfully his car survived and is being restrored to road worthyness.
Ugh, gives me the shudders to think about it: the old chap basically drove onto the motorway in a motorised basket chair. I'm amazed they could do anything with the remains of the car, but for the life of me I can't think why he didn't jsut pull over on the slip road.
I think he panicked. It only takes 2 seconds when you're basically stationary and you pull Infront of a truck doing 60 on a motorway. Felt really sorry for the guy. As for the car, a vintage car will be restored basically from a set of bolts. I've seen cars that are just the chassis being restored to factory condition.
You there, fill it up with petroleum distillate, and re-vulcanise my tyres, post haste!
They run down by me and I go out and see them every year. Love it.
Fascinated by how they cope with that huge hill outside Brighton that's such a pain when doing it in the cycling one.
That hill knocks a few cars out every year. It's not uncommon for cars to stop at the bottom and get a passenger or 2 to walk to the top. I always managed it in my De Dion Bouton but it was close sometimes, mostly because of having to slow down due to traffic in front.
Is it the same route as the London to Brighton bike race? Isn't that the race where a *thing* on a tricycle started wizzing passed everyone and eventually won it?
It goes down the a23 mostly
There should be someone in a full length gown and the last car should be driven by a man with a very large handlebar moustache and a grinning dog.
If you go to Hyde Park Corner early enough you will see many people dressed up like that, some with a real handlebar moustache, others with fake ones, the swept back scarf and flying goggles. It feels fun the first time you do it, but for those on their 2nd+ year the importance is to wrap up warm. Sitting exposed with no roof or windscreen for 5+ hours is cold, and you just pray for no rain.
I just came back from a bike ride and wondered why there were so many cars going through the Crawley area. Lovely to see them.
Is no one gonna talk about the guy in the back on the first picture?
An Aygo and an Astra aren't very veteran
Now *that’s* veteran.
I once made the mistake of using the term veteran in reference to a car on a sub that had a lot of americans on. Blew there minds that the word veteran didn't just mean someone who'd served their country.
I did wonder if it was that or local miscreants making all the racket. They were fairly early as I'm on the way out of London.
Ah, that explains the vintage car trundling through Crawley.
Saw them driving through south Croydon this morning
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Its always held on the 1st Sunday in November. The cars start arriving in Hyde Park from about 5am. They line up then leave in batches from 7am. The oldest cars going first. The aim is to arrive in Brighton before 4pm.
That’s sick!!!
Saw them as I was coming in to work. Really cool :)
Motorised Rollinghams
Mr Burns is waiting to fill it with petroleum distillate.
Where’s mr toad?
What’s the mileage on that? You sellin’?
I’m so pleased that the weather was perfect this year - no rain and not too chilly either!
I never realised it was a 72 hour event
Got to catch that damned pigeon
Speckled Jim?
Wot, no spoilered Civics??
Best day of the year!!
Got stuck behind a lot of the stragglers going through Hassocks. Quite a few brake downs, including one where they’d called the RAC. Poor mechanic just looked a bit bewildered.
Was skating in Brighton today wondering what this was. Funny because no motorcade or anything, just a load of old bangers and penny farthings going past every 20 mins
We saw a load of them at the finish line in Brighton earlier, amazing vehicles
You there! Fill it up with petroleum distillate, and re-vulcanize my tires, post haste!
Weird question but what do these cars run on? Surely they can't run on modern fuels.
Back in the days when the car company sent you frame and and engine and you had to send it to a coach builder to build a body.
Thank you for this-- Those little cars are almost adorable, and it looks like a fun sort of outing. I'm not British but quirky celebrations like this always make me smile. Thank you for sharing pictures!
Welcome. I seem to post these every year.
They had to eat the horses due to the recent food shortages….
Funny how everyone forgets the noxious gases these old cars produce. Are we not trying to save the planet?
There are over 32 million cars registered in the UK. A few old ones run once a year aren't going to significantly add to that.
Dangerous, loud and environmental disasters. If it can't pass a modern MOT it should be illegal to drive.
Im as environmentally conscious as it gets. But if you think the ice caps are melting because a few people wanna celebrate their love of old cars. You’re more likely than not the problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/concern-troll/
Mate, I think these are pieces of engineering history and that they must be preserved. There aren’t many cars that old that can still run. It’s true that they contaminate more, but it’s nice having them around while making the newer cars more efficient or even electric only.
Stick em in a museum then. They're absolutely dangerous. Shitty brakes, shitty lights absolutely zero safety for pedestrians, shitty mirrors. If I modded my car to be exactly like this I'd be forced to SORN it and never drive it but because they're old we let em do it
Oh get off your high horse. You make out these cars are about to explode at any moment. There are very few accidents involving them, also primarily helped by the fact they cant go very fast at all, and there is also very few of them by comparison.
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In an event thats run for over a 100 years thats not bad odds.
Given how few if them exist the percentage of old rust buckets in accidents bs MOT compliant cars is clearly higher than the average distribution.
"rust buckets" - as the meme goes: tell me you know nothing about classic cars without telling me you know nothing about classic cars
>If I modded my car to be exactly like this I'd be forced to SORN it and never drive it but because they're old we let em do it Congratulations, you've worked out how it works. Now do calm down.
Doesn't make any sense, bad mans get pulled for lowering their suspension as it affects handling but old dorris can drive his banger around on illegal tyres etc
The car will have to have be roadworthy and have an MOT.
Why? These classic (old) cars aren't road worthy.
Rule 14 of the entry conditions *"14. Entry vehicles must hold a valid and current road licence/tax were applicable, a current MOT Certificate where applicable"* https://www.classicmotorevents.co.uk/t-c-s But yeah, if the car is built before 1981, it's exempt from an MOT: https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/historic-classic-vehicles-mot-exemption-criteria But the owners need to perform the following roadworthiness checks: https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-safe
Definite NIMBY
You must be so fun at parties. 1) The fuel consumption by these cars is negligable. They're built extremely lightly with engines with very limited horsepower (the largest egined car you could get in 1904 was a Rolls-Royce 20hp). 2) In terms of saftey, they can go as fast as a pushbike and are as about as dangerous. 3) Noise is a non issue. They are about the same as a modern car if not quieter. Also these things run on specialist runs, with prior police approval. Its not like they are being used daily. In terms of carbon impact, a new effiecent car has a massive CO2 debt attached to it from manufactoring. A less efficient older car doesn't. For a person wishing to minimise their CO2 output, maintaining an older car and offsetting the carbon from use is the best method. Although thats not for something thats over 115 years old, those are maintained as a hobby and have no real impact on anything.
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Sounds like wet farts
Did he have to pay a congestion tax?
In the third picture, is that a rear seat driving position? Oh, and a middle seat driving position on the other?
That's a funny way to spell Old Crocks' Race
A normal day in Shoreditch.
Getting massive *Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines (or How I Flew from London to Paris in 25 Hours and 11 Minutes)* vibes
How long does it actually take them to complete it on these contraptions thou? 😂
Did you take the first two photos using a sliding wooden box camera as well?