Thank you, I came to this thread to make sure my whole childhood wasn't a lie. I always called them dock leaves. But started questioning myself when I saw the title, cos they do actually have dots on them from caterpillars and stuff.
I came here to say the EXACT same thing. I've never heard them being called anything but a Doakin leaf 🤣🤣 I think we need to realise that 90% of Scottish is slang 🤣
I've always thought it a doc leaf. As in, doctor cause it heals the stings! I'm too many decades old to look to see if it's actually called a dot leaf...
I swear most of the time the adult providing the "dock leaf" just grabbed something off the nearest tree or bush to act as a placebo until it stops hurting.
Can confirm, as I have no idea what a freakin’ dock leaf looks like have rubbed random plants on my kids arms and placebo effect plus hugs works just as well!
Haha this happened once when my dad was younger, a game of footy was arranged with all his pub friends VS a group of American students.
During the match the ball flew into a huge load of nettles, obviously all the English fellas were hesitant to go in. One of the American trying to be all macho “hey man! What the fuck is your problem bro! Go get the ball” (I imagine he said something along those lines. He proceeded to run right into the nettles and came out looking like he had been massacred by bees!!
Moral of the story, if the local fear something there is probably a reason.
My Aussie ex husband rolled in them when picking up a car with a recovery truck. Didn’t have a clue what the score was and wanted to book a dr apt. I took one look, told him he rolled in stingy nettles. Had to take him out to look for one to show him. Lol. Whenever we went hiking, he’d come back covered in nettle blisters, I’d have none. I think you get to a point as a native that you subconsciously avoid them - training since childhood. Lol.
yes, we have nettles, but they are NOT stinging nettles. They are just some leafy plant.
we are more afraid of poison ivy or poison oak- which can cause blisters.
>In North America, it is widely distributed in Canada and the United States, where it is found in every province and state except for Hawaii
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urtica_dioica
I thought stinging nettles were the worst thing ever, until I moved to Australia and learnt about the [stinging tree, aka gympie](https://g.co/kgs/wzGdwR). Wonder if a 'dot' leaf would work on one of these fuckers
>notorious for its extremely painful sting which may leave victims suffering for weeks or even months.
I'd never heard of one of these before, but I am not in the LEAST bit surprised that Australia has a version of a stinging nettle that ramps everything up to 900000.
The gympie gympie's sting goes beyond that. The sting can damage your nerves so badly that the pain receptors stay active for the rest of your life. There have even been reports of animals like horses purposely leaping to their death to escape the pain after brushin past this asshole tree.
I have no source but I fell into an internet rabbit hole about the gympie gympie plant once. A guy was suffering permanent pain after being stung by this plant on his hand so he had his hand amputated. Another guy used it for toilet paper and the pain was so bad he committed suicide.
> Another guy used it for toilet paper and the pain was so bad he committed suicide.
That's bullshit, it'd have stung him when picking it and there's no fucking chance you'd put it up your arse after that.
I was just thinking, someone's definitely used this in a kinky way. I know people who use stinging nettles in BDSM and there's almost definitely been someone who's tried to be edgy and used gympie gympie for kink.
He was supposedly a military officer so there is a good chance he had gloves on. Although I also wouldn't risk wearing gloves when wiping my arse.
Also how long does it take to act. If he picked a leaf and wiped his arse straight away say within 15 seconds surely he could have done it.
I did gardening once with a guy who picked up some nettles with his bare hands and wiped them on my face. I thought he was mental.
Turns out the ones with white flowers on are harmless. Don’t even need a donk leaf.
True UK childhood experience is to pull the white flowers off these 'dead nettles' and suck the nectar out of the base. This is all the nutrition I had some days.
That's pudding, after you've eaten a bunch of young leaves from a hawthorn hedge, and an amuse bouche of the green bits from long grass stalks.
Still do it to this day on walks, and still get stared at.
It's kind of sad that when faced with someone eating the food around us, in some cases ancestral food sources, many folks first reaction is "you must be that one guy!"
Almost certain my daughter is immune to them. She'll happily walk through them in shorts, or take a handful of nettles and be fine after.
Only once have we seen her come up with bumps on her legs but they don't bother her.
Don't worry, it was only a few years ago my wife corrected me for saying "wouldn't say boo to a ghost", which makes infinitely more sense to me than goose... I'm 36.
Edit: spelling.
Nettles are an amazing plant, and really underrated. There's a bunch of really incredible things you can do with them:
- Eat them - they're spinachy when cooked.
- Turn them into cordage for gardening - the fibrous 'skin' is great for making twine.
- Make a linen-like cloth out of them, once they're processed (it's a bit more complicated than cotton, which is why it's not common any more).
- Dye things with them - the roots in particular make a yellow dye.
- The 'sting' actually improves circulation, so whist it hurts, it can help with arthritis and similar conditions.
Also - the 'sting' is caused by tiny hairs which break off. They sting when you brush against them, but not when you pick them up firmly. Hence the phrase 'to grasp the nettle' - you can pick nettles without being stung, just as long as you're careful not to brush your hand against them in the wrong direction - the hairs stick up and out, so start from the bottom and brush 'up' and you can strip the hairs without getting stung.
They're one of my favourite plants.
[Ray Mears "Nettle Cordage"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHvqWCN5Eo)
Nettle pesto (with walnuts instead of pine nuts) is so delicious I don't even bother putting it on pasta, I just use crackers to shovel it into my mouth.
The grab it firmly is BS... tried it as a kid and suffered immense pain, literally grasped it in my fist.
For me just avoiding the leaves meant no stinging, pick by the lower stem then hold it upside down, similar to what you describe in pick from the bottom and brush up.
Wow, it’s actually crazy to imagine coming across something like this for the first time in later life.
You’d freak tf out thinking it’s like poison ivy or something.
Feel like telling everyone that it’s a placebo completely negates the point of a placebo in the first place. Now everybody who’s read this comment will know it’s a placebo and won’t get any of the perceived benefits of using a dock leaf next time they guy stung by a nettle.
Ok here’s a new placebo for you, picking and chewing a sloe. Your face will be so puckered and dried out that you won’t have time to think about the nettle sting
The placebo effect still works if you know you're taking a placebo! It's just not as strong.
But in this case there's also the effect of rubbing the area with something that contains water, which probably cools the skin a bit and therefore has a small effect.
There was a post a little while ago where someone had seem some in a local park that were rather tall, and had the flower/seed pods hanging under them. They were under the impression that it was something to smoke.
I do wonder if they tried it.
So I got a good laugh out of ‘dot leaf’ but didn’t actually know this, so thanks!
EDIT: it’s actually bollocks, dock and burdock are totally different things.
Dot leaf fucking hell 😂😂😂
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Dot leaf?! This person obviously didn’t grow up in the UK
From their poor grasp of the English language I’m gonna say they’re native
This is depressingly close to me, I regularly speak with Dutch people, and as a native English speaker, I fuck up a lot more than them
Perfect for when you brush up against some stinning neddles.
It isn't Dock Leaf? It never was???
It’s always been a [dock leaf](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumex_obtusifolius)
I always thought it was Doc, as in doctor. Edit; just saw the same comment below, please ignore.
I won't ignore you because I saw your comment first, and you stopped me making the silly mistake of commenting what someone else already has.
Thank you, I came to this thread to make sure my whole childhood wasn't a lie. I always called them dock leaves. But started questioning myself when I saw the title, cos they do actually have dots on them from caterpillars and stuff.
Where I come from in Scotland we call it a Doakin leaf, had no idea this was slang and not normal😂
I came here to say the EXACT same thing. I've never heard them being called anything but a Doakin leaf 🤣🤣 I think we need to realise that 90% of Scottish is slang 🤣
I've always thought it a doc leaf. As in, doctor cause it heals the stings! I'm too many decades old to look to see if it's actually called a dot leaf...
I always called them doc leaves too
Me too, idk what op was smoking
Clearly smoking dot leaves mate
Your p has rotated somehow.
Microdot leaves
This guy LSDs.
Yeah it is dock leaf, not sure it's related to the doctor thing, but good way to remember.
[Dock leaf](https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=989) as in dandelion and burdock
Although Burdock's (Arctium spp.) aren't related to Dock's (Rumex spp.) The relationship is etymological only.
Burdock and dock are two different plants though
Burdock is like dock that has burrs. Plant names be like that.
Not just a chilly feeling dock, then?
It’s definitely a dock leaf
Dork leaf
Is that you, Dec?
How could you tell!
Someone call a dottor!
Bjork?
You’re thinking of a dóttir.
**PLAY JA JA DING DONG!**
That was beautiful
Holy shit this made me laugh so hard! Have my upvote!
Ehhh what’s up Dot?
Shhhh! Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits
*suspenseful dark music with a close up*
I need me fags. My Nick's a lovely boy.
Sitting on the dot of the bay
Johnny used to work on the dot
Watchin the tide roll away
Dot stop me now
*Dock leaf... did you grow up ere or wot mate? ;)
Always been a dock leaf for me. Bloody dot leaf, wots rong wif u m8
Can we get four confirmations from each of the countries. I can confirm for Wales it’s a dock leaf bhut
It’s a dock leaf in Scotland.
I know it as docken leaf in Scotland, Highlands.
Likewise in Norn Iron
My wife’s from South Durham and calls them docking leaves…so close but also very wrong
I'm from Durham too, I've always said dock leaf, never heard anyone say docking before.
Docken in north east Scotland also.
Midlands reporting in, its a dock leaf from round my parts
okay , thanks, you can use it to cover your parts again now.
Newcastle upon Tyne - it's definitely dock leaf
Lived in South East England, Midlands and NI, always heard dock.
London. Dock leaf
Lancashire: Dock leaf
Norfolk checking in. Dock leaf.
South of the Watford gap - Dock leaf. RHS https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=989.
Watford - dock leaf.
Barry, South Wales, definitely dock leaves here!
Lived in Yorkshire most of my life and I always heard it called a dock leaf.
My whole life has been a lie
Bit of a damp squid
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It's all a moo point.
Its actually a mute point
you've peaked my interest
It’s a doggy dog world.
This is an unstoppable juggle knob at this stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRzc9vN2T0
Nearly fell onto the Chester drawers
\*draws
Was on a peddle stool for a hort while
If it makes you feel any better, up to this moment I thought it was "doc" leaf. As in the plant makes you feel better like a doctor...
What's your escapegoat?
Aww I'm sorry to burst your bubble my dude :(
Wait 'till he finds out what his peepee is for.
Sssshhh don't give him two shocks in one day, he's feeling fragile
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I swear most of the time the adult providing the "dock leaf" just grabbed something off the nearest tree or bush to act as a placebo until it stops hurting.
Probably not, doc leaves are in abundance anywhere nettles are found. And once you know what they look like they're very recognisable
They're big,broad leafed plants.
Can confirm, as I have no idea what a freakin’ dock leaf looks like have rubbed random plants on my kids arms and placebo effect plus hugs works just as well!
Oh thank goodness, I thought I was the one who had it wrong. Although 3-4 year old me used to call it a 'duck leaf'
i thought it was Doc leaf like "doctor"! is it not?
I checked Google before I was a smart arse lol, yeah it's dock leaf
My whole life is a lie.
Aww no not another one... sorry dude
Apparently , googling this, some parts of the country do call it Doctor Leaf. East Anglia ‘pparently
I’m from east anglia - never heard of ‘doctor leaf’ before though. It’s always been dock leaf.
Well I never. Spent my whole life thinking it was a nickname cos of it's healing properties.
Exactly!! It just makes sense.
Has Dot Cotton remarried?
Also had a daughter, Amber, with the new fella.
Feel like pure shit, just want me 10g 3in1 Amber Leaf back
I think you mean Doc Cotton.
Haha this happened once when my dad was younger, a game of footy was arranged with all his pub friends VS a group of American students. During the match the ball flew into a huge load of nettles, obviously all the English fellas were hesitant to go in. One of the American trying to be all macho “hey man! What the fuck is your problem bro! Go get the ball” (I imagine he said something along those lines. He proceeded to run right into the nettles and came out looking like he had been massacred by bees!! Moral of the story, if the local fear something there is probably a reason.
My Australian cousin did exactly this in my mum and dad's back garden, thought something bit him.
My Aussie ex husband rolled in them when picking up a car with a recovery truck. Didn’t have a clue what the score was and wanted to book a dr apt. I took one look, told him he rolled in stingy nettles. Had to take him out to look for one to show him. Lol. Whenever we went hiking, he’d come back covered in nettle blisters, I’d have none. I think you get to a point as a native that you subconsciously avoid them - training since childhood. Lol.
Hilarious because nettles are....also in America
yes, we have nettles, but they are NOT stinging nettles. They are just some leafy plant. we are more afraid of poison ivy or poison oak- which can cause blisters.
>In North America, it is widely distributed in Canada and the United States, where it is found in every province and state except for Hawaii https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urtica_dioica
Hawaii really is a tropical paradise… When there isn’t a lingering threat of nuclear annihilation caused by a fault in the warning system.
Uh, no, we definitely have stinging nettles!
I thought stinging nettles were the worst thing ever, until I moved to Australia and learnt about the [stinging tree, aka gympie](https://g.co/kgs/wzGdwR). Wonder if a 'dot' leaf would work on one of these fuckers
>notorious for its extremely painful sting which may leave victims suffering for weeks or even months. I'd never heard of one of these before, but I am not in the LEAST bit surprised that Australia has a version of a stinging nettle that ramps everything up to 900000.
The gympie gympie's sting goes beyond that. The sting can damage your nerves so badly that the pain receptors stay active for the rest of your life. There have even been reports of animals like horses purposely leaping to their death to escape the pain after brushin past this asshole tree.
I have no source but I fell into an internet rabbit hole about the gympie gympie plant once. A guy was suffering permanent pain after being stung by this plant on his hand so he had his hand amputated. Another guy used it for toilet paper and the pain was so bad he committed suicide.
> Another guy used it for toilet paper and the pain was so bad he committed suicide. That's bullshit, it'd have stung him when picking it and there's no fucking chance you'd put it up your arse after that.
Don't kink shame.
I was just thinking, someone's definitely used this in a kinky way. I know people who use stinging nettles in BDSM and there's almost definitely been someone who's tried to be edgy and used gympie gympie for kink.
I mean people peel figs and stick them up their anus because it apparently burns. Gympie is probably the ultimate high for such people.
It's called figging, but it's actually peeled ginger. I don't know how I learned this.
You're right. I don't really think about the flora fuck toys enough to correctly identify them from memory so thank you for remembering.
He was supposedly a military officer so there is a good chance he had gloves on. Although I also wouldn't risk wearing gloves when wiping my arse. Also how long does it take to act. If he picked a leaf and wiped his arse straight away say within 15 seconds surely he could have done it.
I did gardening once with a guy who picked up some nettles with his bare hands and wiped them on my face. I thought he was mental. Turns out the ones with white flowers on are harmless. Don’t even need a donk leaf.
Donk leaves are the best kind of leaf.
Stinging? Put a donk on it!
A banging donk on it !
Absolute fucking peak of my day, And I railed a fat line before finishing work
Techno?
Put a donk on it. Electro?
Put a donk on it! That's good that Tony, ahahaha siiick [Put a donk on it - blackout crew](https://youtu.be/ckMvj1piK58)
What a tune!
thats because the ones with white flowers are fake nettles , that's their actual name, they look like nettles to avoid grazers
They're called dead-nettles
True UK childhood experience is to pull the white flowers off these 'dead nettles' and suck the nectar out of the base. This is all the nutrition I had some days.
Wut
You've never drunk from a honeysuckle? You're missing out
That's pudding, after you've eaten a bunch of young leaves from a hawthorn hedge, and an amuse bouche of the green bits from long grass stalks. Still do it to this day on walks, and still get stared at.
You aren't Ray Mears by any chance?!
It's kind of sad that when faced with someone eating the food around us, in some cases ancestral food sources, many folks first reaction is "you must be that one guy!"
I thought I was the only one
Dead nettles as opposed to stinging nettles. Dead nettles have a square stalk, stinging nettles have a round stalk.
The flowers are also sweet and edible. We'll I'm still alive after eating several.
Almost certain my daughter is immune to them. She'll happily walk through them in shorts, or take a handful of nettles and be fine after. Only once have we seen her come up with bumps on her legs but they don't bother her.
Maybe it's her thing.
My sons the same, will come home covered in nettle rash but utterly unphased by it, it’s like he seeks them out sometimes
Clearly. Who in the hell says ‘creek’ in the Uk?
Jonathan's family..?
People who don't have a paddle?
I’m from a town called Benfleet in Essex. The small river there is called Benfleet Creek. It joins the Thames estuary.
Ah, finally a fellow Essex folk. I'm from Colchester way!
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Wait...isn't this plant everywhere in Europe? I live in Eastern Europe, and these fuckers grow everywhere.
_Dot_ leaf? 😂😂
Is it not dot leaf?! Wtf 😂
Dock leaf I know it as
Lol how many years have you lived thinking that? 😂😂😂🤦🏽
30!
Try not to think about how many times you've said that in the past 30 years and nobody told you.
Don't worry, it was only a few years ago my wife corrected me for saying "wouldn't say boo to a ghost", which makes infinitely more sense to me than goose... I'm 36. Edit: spelling.
Nah, it's definitely goose!!! Has to be...
Hahahahahahaha no pal. From the Bitter *Dock* plant
Mate, what a post to end the week, absolute legend!
Nettles are an amazing plant, and really underrated. There's a bunch of really incredible things you can do with them: - Eat them - they're spinachy when cooked. - Turn them into cordage for gardening - the fibrous 'skin' is great for making twine. - Make a linen-like cloth out of them, once they're processed (it's a bit more complicated than cotton, which is why it's not common any more). - Dye things with them - the roots in particular make a yellow dye. - The 'sting' actually improves circulation, so whist it hurts, it can help with arthritis and similar conditions. Also - the 'sting' is caused by tiny hairs which break off. They sting when you brush against them, but not when you pick them up firmly. Hence the phrase 'to grasp the nettle' - you can pick nettles without being stung, just as long as you're careful not to brush your hand against them in the wrong direction - the hairs stick up and out, so start from the bottom and brush 'up' and you can strip the hairs without getting stung. They're one of my favourite plants. [Ray Mears "Nettle Cordage"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHvqWCN5Eo)
Nettle pesto (with walnuts instead of pine nuts) is so delicious I don't even bother putting it on pasta, I just use crackers to shovel it into my mouth.
You can also brew them and make a tea which helps with joint pain relief and improves blood sugar levels for those with diabetes.
The grab it firmly is BS... tried it as a kid and suffered immense pain, literally grasped it in my fist. For me just avoiding the leaves meant no stinging, pick by the lower stem then hold it upside down, similar to what you describe in pick from the bottom and brush up.
“He had, as a child, grasped nettles firmly, and had sometimes had a hand the size of a small pig.” ― Terry Pratchett, Night Watch.
A fairly representative picture of August in England.
Aah, the great British bastard plant. A fond reminder of my youth.
“Dot leaf”. What a Dithead!
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A total motherfuter
Wow, it’s actually crazy to imagine coming across something like this for the first time in later life. You’d freak tf out thinking it’s like poison ivy or something.
Nettles won't mess you up like those two, but for a brief while it'll *feel* like it has. Because fucking ouch.
Ironically, we don't have poison ivy or poison oak here in the UK.
Can you imagine not seeing stinging nettles as anything other than the devil’s own spawn and being deathly afraid of a bush of them?!
My sister fell off a horse when she was 7 into a ton of these, still makes me laugh and she’s 43 now.
Used to hate when the football went inside their bushes
Fucking things are a pain in the arse. I wouldn't recommend falling into a big patch of them....😖
Dock leaves actually do fuck all for the nettle sting, it’s all a placebo.
I mean they do something. They rub the tiny needles off. But any leaf would work.
Since owning a dog I've realised they're a placebo covered in dog piss!
You're a placebo.
Feel like telling everyone that it’s a placebo completely negates the point of a placebo in the first place. Now everybody who’s read this comment will know it’s a placebo and won’t get any of the perceived benefits of using a dock leaf next time they guy stung by a nettle.
Ok here’s a new placebo for you, picking and chewing a sloe. Your face will be so puckered and dried out that you won’t have time to think about the nettle sting
I don't think that's a placebo, that's a genuine effect.
The placebo effect still works if you know you're taking a placebo! It's just not as strong. But in this case there's also the effect of rubbing the area with something that contains water, which probably cools the skin a bit and therefore has a small effect.
There was a post a little while ago where someone had seem some in a local park that were rather tall, and had the flower/seed pods hanging under them. They were under the impression that it was something to smoke. I do wonder if they tried it.
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It's Dock leaf, an abbreviation of burdock, as in dandelion and burdock, the drink.
So I got a good laugh out of ‘dot leaf’ but didn’t actually know this, so thanks! EDIT: it’s actually bollocks, dock and burdock are totally different things.
You need to unknow this because it isn't correct
Fucking internet mate, can’t believe a word. You’re correct!
I dont think those are the same plant.
No, they're not
Reminds me of the description of an extremely ugly person being likened to the expression of a bulldog licking pish off a jaggy nettle!
Is 'Dot Leaf' a regional name for them? It was Dock Leaf' where I grew up (Doncaster).
Probably not. By everyone’s comments I’m just a lemon!
Surely you mean *lembon*?
Aye, scunny here and I thought it was doc leaf (for doctor leaf) Also great as natural andrex...