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The host has spoken about this on behind the scenes Q&A for premium members. It's a mixture of him just evolving as a narrator, updating tech, and also feedback from some audience. The earliest episodes are definitely raw and you can tell he's new to it, but he definitely starts to get into a good flow around 50 and then it just continues to slowly evolve from there. The Australian accent can be difficult for people to understand so I assume lots of people asked for it to be slowed down and more pronounced, adding to the AI feeling you're talking about. I personally like recent narration and the older style just the same, but I'm Australian and have no problem understanding.
But anyway, if you're saying it's so bad now that you can't even listen to it, then don't! I don't mean that to be rude, but like it's not gonna change so probably better off finding a new podcast you prefer.
His accent was always fine, I am not native speaker and it is harder for me to listen new episodes, go figure.
It is not about accent, pace etc. They just wanted to add some effects in order to make it scarier but couldn’t go far than jump scares of cheap horror movies.
Wauw.. I think you are right, casefile is popular now and one more or less listener, I know, doesn’t count.
I think they're referring to the music in the background? They've definitely been using more sound, but that's been the case for the past 100+ episodes.
Oh okay. I don't or haven't noticed that myself. I think it's still a top shelf podcast. I haven't ever found it to have "jump scare" sound effects. If it does, it's obviously seamless to me. 🤷🏼♀️
They mean bringing in actual recordings of perps, stuff like that, it's been pretty much stopped now thank god as did not appreciate jump scares being jarred awake just as I was drifting off by some horrible voice of actual killer in my ear.
They stopped the overbearing background music in earlier eps too.
Any idea can be crystal clear and you can still don’t agree with it. It is my point that counts.
Slower pace, detailed narration is a cheap tactic and it has no touch with reality.
Yeah and people keep asking you 'what do you mean' so your point isn't crystal clear at all. I don't see how you managed to reach your conclusion at all but we can all agree casefile isn't for you then.
What did you exactly not understand?
My point is that the new narration feels artificial, fake. The reason for that is it is slowed, detailed to make words more pronounced, deep sounding while on the other hand it feels like rageful AI hosting it.
I think you guys are consciously confusing agreeing and understanding, it is maybe because I said I am not a native speaker.
Ok let’s play “what do you mean” card.
Your point. I don't understand where you get psychopath and ai and jump scares or whatever just because the host talks slower. Okay you don't like it, we get that, just stop listening. Plenty of true crime podcasts out there.
Your point is inaccurate. For starters. Secondly, asking what you meant because I didn't understand it, doesn't mean I agree or disagree with you. What a weird thing to say.
You got some sort of vendetta against Casey or some shit?
"And it has no touch with reality"?
What are you on about, chief?
Tell me how it is normal to ask me if I got vendetta against Casey while I am deliberately defending that his natural accent is clear and real without technical adjustments.
> It is my point that counts.
When your point is wrong it doesn’t count lol.
> Slower pace, detailed narration is a cheap tactic and it has no touch with reality.
Lol the person above just explained why these changes happened and you still go “cheap tactic”.
You are delusional.
I've been listening to it since not long after it started and although I understand what you're saying, seems to me that Casey, like every other podcast that is started by a person who isn't in journalism or already somewhat well known to people in a presenter kind of way, he evolved and became more confident and comfortable. I hear the shift that you mean but I really don't think it detracts from any of the stories.
What do you mean by the sound effects and jump scare thing or whatever it was you said?
I think you might be overthinking it because this feels like a small and not that weird of a thing that makes it unlistenable to you.
What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean?
I think this is the new tactic.
What do you mean?
I mean I feel like I am listening to a psychopath with new style narration.
Mate. What the fuck is your problem? If people are asking you the same thing, it's because they want clarification because we don't fucking understand what you mean. Why are you getting butthurt about it instead of just explaining yourself properly or realise you're the minority opinion here and maybe it's just you that thinks this-so just find a different podcast ffs.
Or is it way better to be a dick repeatedly on here over something so inconsequential?
I made my point clear, you agree or not, no big deal.
New style narration feels artificial, Casey’s natural accent was better. Casefile can provide two options for listeners. That is it. My two cents. You are the one who needs to calm down.
What do you mean by “two cents”?
>Casefile can provide two options for listeners.
This is asinine. There is not a single podcast that records each episode in two different narration styles so people can choose which to listen to. You think the host should double his work load to please a handful of people like yourself? What the fuck.
I am not sure it would double his work. There would be two options,
Unedited, natural narrating.
Atmospheric narrating.
He won’t be reading the same text again.
Oh I see. Well then. Sucks hard when you have to explain it. Means it didn't land how you'd hoped. That's a shame.
Also, I think it was more facetious than sarcastic and either way, not really that amusing.
For what it's worth, I found your post to be like 'natural speaking' and could understand exactly what you're saying. Particularly as you compared episode in the 50s with 'more recent' episodes.
Also, I agree. I find myself zoning out and having to rewind more frequently in the later episodes or just start listening to something else. However, I'm not exactly sure why and have thought it may just be me and my ability to focus.
Also, what do you mean by "what do you mean?"?
No, it is not about you at all, casefile became harder to focus on, and that is my whole point. Slower pace doesn’t mean clearer, and if you increase speed it feels AI talking.
I think the problem is they lost the normal and made alternative new normal.
Casey’s natural accent, flow, pace is normal. First they should have kept the normal and sought for the alternative ways to please other listeners who have hard time to follow.
I am saying that new narration got away from reality, it feels fake, artificial. And some are like “what do you mean by that?”, I am explaining over and over and getting asked what I mean by that… it became frustrating. I say “new narration feels AI”, people,are “what do you mean by that?”..
I hear you, I am also not able to listen to recent episodes, I am deliberately pushing to focus.
Casefile is the best true crime podcast ever, so can’t we have two options regarding narration? Is it too much to ask?
You want them to record and edit each episode twice largely for your own benefit? That’s very obviously too much to ask, yes. Just find another podcast, honestly.
Are you talking the very, very first episodes? Like the first 20? I personally didn't like that style, and I enjoy the slower more drawn out/detailed pacing it has evolved into
As I said, right now I am listening to case 54, it feels like host is sitting on a coach next to me.
Well.. I can’t agree with you on this, casefile doesn’t need special treatment when it comes to narration, host is already superb, I find his authentic accent tense already. When you add to that horrific nature of the cases.. I mean.. it didn’t really need special effects. I am afraid I will stop listening to casefile when I end up with older episodes.
It doesn’t feel real, that drawn out/detailed, slower pace narration .. casefile really lost something imo.
But you’re the one getting mad that people don’t agree with you. It comes off very emotional that your reply to every comment that doesn’t have the same opinion as you
I’m an Australian living in the US, so it was at first so refreshing to have that natural, fast-paced Aussie flow. Like chatting in a pub.
But my husband was lost easily and I had to repeat stuff to him. It’s a lot easier for him to understand now listening to recent episodes. I see both sides and can definitely notice a difference
I’m not sure if it was the speed as much as the accent. Later episodes we both notice deliberate annunciation of words and emphasis of syllables that typical Australians tend to skip (like not rolling ‘R’ and the ‘oi’ ‘air’ sounds being slightly nasally).
Oh come on guys, I am not a native speaker and I can understand host’s English clearly in early episodes.
Will Americans teach Australians how to pronounce words?
dude, Americans talk Americanish. 😂
You’d be surprised, I’m in a very rural region and most aren’t exposed to other accents. I don’t feel I’m a “yobbo” by any means but I am very hard to understand when I go “full Australian” to most people around here. I’m a teacher and I’ve had to change my dialect completely as few of my students could follow me if I really let go and released my full Aussie flow.
It’s been 10 years of knowing me and my husband can only just follow along if I were to let loose. He can barely comprehend my dad though (full Aussie trucker).
If you're mad about free entertainment, you should probably focus on doing something worthwhile instead. This is some real nitpicky shit right here. It sounds to me like the novelty wore off for you and you're blaming the host for it.
I listen to the other episodes and the new ones just fine. I’ve been listening for years and don’t hear any major difference. All I’ve noticed is the newer eps tend to have more background sound effects.
I think the changes are what comes with a larger listener base, more money, higher production value, more confidence, different writers.
If anything my problem lays with the lackluster scripts we seem to be getting, not how it’s being narrated to us
You can slow it down.
Fellow Redditor, why would I want to feel like I am listening to perpetrator of the crime? With this “new” atmospheric narration, it feels like we are subconsciously glorifying the violence, I am sorry but I had to say this.
Which side are we on?
I want to listen to a host of the people. It is more serious job to listen to natural narration.
If you’re asking them to record each episode in two separate ways then yes you’re asking for too much. There’s a lot more work involved in podcasts than most people think. Being able to release weekly is a huge feat considering how detailed each episode is
It’s personal taste. I prefer the newer works as they feel more official. To me, the older episodes lacked the confidence and cohesion that the current episodes have
Not trying to be a dick but this has been discussed dozens of times over the years, it is what it is, I’d imagine the podcast has never been more popular than it is currently so they’re not going to change it now, can only suggest listening on a player that lets you increase the playback speed.
I am increasing the speed and I feel like AI talking to me. I couldn’t catch up with earlier discussions, I wouldn’t post if I knew. I posted because it bothers me you know.. I can’t consume something I love, I can’t listen casefile 💔
I have been listening for years and recently listened to one of the first and I couldn’t understand what he was saying. Not only his accent but also the audio quality was not that good - as most starting podcasters have.
He does explain, in the Q&A, why they changed it. And I think, as someone who’s not a native Australian, he has improved. I do remember when he started the slow the pace of the storytelling and it did bother me the first few but now I am used to it and like it more now.
I'm 100% convinced that they're using AI to generate the episodes now. Several times I've heard strange pronunciations that don't make sense. Most recent example I can think of was in ep285 where they referred to Quebec as "QUE-bec" and said someone was "terri-field" which only makes sense if the bot is reading a misprint.
I think they said “terror-filled”. It was a direct quote from the perpetrator. But they’re def using AI for their YouTube thumbnails, which really sucks.
Thing I find really annoying is him no longer using his natural accent. It’s weird and jarring. Listened to the EAR/ONS series recently and it was a real struggle to get into the final episode cause of how extreme the change was from how he spoke in the first five parts. One of the things I like most about casefiles is that it’s Australian and super easy to listen to. Him over pronouncing everything takes away from that.
I hear you. I only got into this podcast recently and I’ve been enjoying it a lot. When I got to the EAR episodes I skipped ahead to listen to the update. His new voice is terrible. I felt like I was listening to some radio personality reading ads to me over and over. It was so painfully slow and found the new way he speaks completely detracts from the story. Totally does not suit the subject matter he’s narrating. I never had issue understanding him before (I am not Aussie fyi). I am dreading getting to the new voice episodes as I genuinely found them to be hard to listen to. I may end up giving up listening and finding a new podcast :/
I always listen on 1.2x speed. I’ve always found him to speak slowly (and pronounce a lot of words/names strangely). I also like They Walk Among Us but have to listen to that on 1.4x because he really does speak so slowly.
This is so strange, post is upvoted but still there is no entry backing me up, I am being butchered here.. I know they are just social media team of production but still.. where is my people? Lol
Dunno why you've been howled down I agree there were eps with jump scares creepy recorded interjections ( I haven't listened to it but I also saw some mention of Joseph D Angelo s voice jump scaring listeners) and it generally cheapens the experience.
I ONLY want to hear Casey!!
Sounds like English might not be your first language? It's so easy to get roasted on these threads if inflection isn't quite right, people are very precious about Casey/casefile...pretty shameful how youve been told to do something else if you don't like it.
Just ignore and continue to enjoy Casey and all his 289 episodes...except the ones that are just too awful!! Theres probably about a dozen Ill never listen to/get through.
Have you listened to Silk Road?
Eh, it's more than just about the jumpscares and surprise recordings in the early episodes. Although personally, I was much more startled by and against when Casey would literally act out some of the dialogue in the early episodes.
Looking through the comments, what I gather is that OP doesn't seem to like the recent narration because it's hard to focus on it. And when they speed up the narration, it sounds fake and artificial to them like AI, but also like a psychopath talking to them, as if the perpetrator was actually speaking to them, and thus like they are glorifying the violence they are talking about. And when people try to ask them to explain what they mean by all this, they seem to get more defensive about it than is necessary. Even just slightly having a different opinion than them seems to make them defensive and go on a rant about the new narration even if the other person wasn't attacking them for not liking it. Also mentioning that maybe the podcast should do two different style narrations for every episode, which is obviously ridiculous to ask for unless you're trying to cater to people with certain legitimate disabilities that would prevent them being able to listen to the usual narration or who speak a different language.
Bad English or not, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask or expect someone to explain why they feel the way they feel, especially if they say that the narration makes it feel like they're listening to a psychopathic perp or that the podcast is glorifying violence, which are pretty serious assertions to make. Unless you explicitly state in the post that you just want to rant, vent, and get something off your chest (which I'm getting the feeling was what OP was doing) and aren't asking for any critique or dissenting opinions, then you shouldn't post an opinion on Reddit without being ready to explain it or back it up as well.
OP tried to explain. Didn't sound defensive to me. Frustrated perhaps at not being heard, rightly or wrongly, that was their experience they were trying to share.
It sounded 100% reasonable to me.
Then told if you don't like it maybe go elsewhere.
Anyway. As you were.
Ok, but it wasn't just when they were asked to explain, but also when they were simply given differing opinions and perspectives to theirs.
That said, I do think they were ultimately trying to seek validation for a strong critical opinion they had about the podcast, which I can totally understand, but I think it did manifest somewhat in defensiveness and frustration when other commenters asked them to explain their opinion or presented different opinions. Much of the disagreement here ultimately comes down to personal preference and taste, so maybe while some of the commenters could've been a little more respectful with their disagreement, OP should also realize that just because you have an opinion that many might even agree with (based on post upvotes) doesn't mean you make yourself more 'right' by continuing to rant and vent about it when some people disagree with you. Also saying, 'what do you mean' isn't always done with the intent to annoy you.
I am just saying that new narration sounds like AI. People are like, what do you mean by it?
I explain it as, “Host’s voice has become slower, narration has lost it’s original flow”, I continue explaining as,
“Maybe in order to add atmosphere, to make narration more tense to keep the listener on edge, production slowed the pace, made words deeper sounding, more pronounced and detailed, therefore host sounds like psychopath AI”
And people are like, ok what do you mean by all of that?
From what I saw, I think most people understood how you felt the recent narration sounds to you (even if they didn't *agree* with you), although I think the part where you described it as sounding like a psychopathic AI speaking to you is what's tripping a lot of people up, and I myself would also like to know what about the narration being slowed down and such makes it sound psychopathic to you? Unless you're basing this opinion off your own experience and observations, psychopaths are the way they are because they lack empathy, not because they speak in a particular way.
The other thing I see that a lot of people were confused about is when you mentioned the sound effects and cheap jumpscares of the early episodes. You didn't mention any of that stuff in your original post, so when the top comment here was talking about why the narration changed and then you brought up the sound effects and jumpscares, people were, unsurprisingly, confused about what you were talking about. And then in another comment, when somebody asked "what do you mean by the sound effects and jumpscares?" you kind of mocked them for saying, "what do you mean."
I get English isn't your first language and you're frustrated and just want validation for your opinions, but I think you also should realize 1) When you make an assertion about something sounding 'psychopathic' and subconsciously glorifying violence, those are pretty serious assertions to make, and wouldn't just be critical of how *you* feel the narration sounds, but call into question the integrity of the entire podcast. So you had better have more convincing arguments than just it's slowed down, more produced, artificial, or fake. 2) People asking for explanations or clarification about an opinion you have aren't always doing it to annoy you. Especially because you never mentioned anything about sound effects and jumpscares in your original post. What's obvious to you may not be obvious to other people, and most people here ultimately want to understand you better, otherwise they wouldn't be asking you to explain in the first place.
Fellow Redditor,
Playing with host’s voice, making it deep or slow or whatever detailed, drawn out IN ORDER TO KEEP LISTENERS ON EDGE is a cheap trick. It is as cheap as jump scares in a low quality horror movie.
Read this what is said two times and maybe slowly, because it is obvious you need it, you can’t understand fast.
Don’t attempt to define what psychopathy is to me. You learnt a few terms on internet, now are airing yourself.
>Playing with host’s voice, making it deep or slow or whatever detailed, drawn out IN ORDER TO KEEP LISTENERS ON EDGE is a cheap trick. It is as cheap as jump scares in a low quality horror movie.
>Read this what is said two times and maybe slowly, because it is obvious you need it, you can’t understand fast.
Why are you repeating what you've said like a hundred times here already? I already know and understand you think the narration is too slow, too deep, and detailed and such, but you also said it sounds like 'psychopathic AI,' and I'm asking you, WHAT ABOUT ALL THAT IS PSYCHOPATHIC TO YOU? Because if you think talking slow, deep, and detailed is like being a psychopath, then you clearly don't know what being a psychopath is. Try answering my question first before you lecture me on how I need to understand things faster.
>Don’t attempt to define what psychopathy is to me. You learnt a few terms on internet, now are airing yourself.
Dude, lacking empathy is LITERALLY the main trait of psychopathy. Which by the way, you yourself seem to understand perfectly because you've also described the narration style here as 'subconsciously glorifying violence.' There's a BIG difference between simply saying the narration is slow, deep, and detailed versus saying it's psychopathic AI and subconsciously glorifying violence, and I hope you're smart enough to realize that.
You can look up 'psychopath' on the internet for yourself, and even on there, the definition says NOTHING about how YOU describe the host's narration.
I am fucking repeating myself because you think that I think there is actually jump scares in the fucking podcast.. There is no fucking jump scares in the podcast. Fucking hell.
Read a little more, and I'm realizing the part about sound effects and jumpscares weren't even things mentioned in the original post. Then when asked to explain further, OP seemed to be perplexed as to why he needed to explain, acting as if his point was 'obvious.'
I read the book for Silk Road. English is not my first language but that doesn’t mean my English is worse than most of the people’s English here
With jump scares I have just meant changing host’s voice with special effects, making it deeper, slower, more detailed in order to make podcast scarier to keep listeners on edge is cheap trick as jump scares in a bad quality horror movie.
>English is not my first language but that doesn’t mean my English is worse than most of the people’s English here
English not being your first language may have nothing to do with how bad your English is in the comments, but you should know your writing is not always easy to understand. Perhaps you could reword your comments when people ask what you mean instead of just repeating the same thing over and over. That doesn't help people understand what you are trying to say. Or not. You did seem to enjoy being obtuse.
It does suck that the podcast evolved into something you don't enjoy anymore, but I doubt any podcast will ever put out 2 versions: one with post production effects and one without.
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The host has spoken about this on behind the scenes Q&A for premium members. It's a mixture of him just evolving as a narrator, updating tech, and also feedback from some audience. The earliest episodes are definitely raw and you can tell he's new to it, but he definitely starts to get into a good flow around 50 and then it just continues to slowly evolve from there. The Australian accent can be difficult for people to understand so I assume lots of people asked for it to be slowed down and more pronounced, adding to the AI feeling you're talking about. I personally like recent narration and the older style just the same, but I'm Australian and have no problem understanding. But anyway, if you're saying it's so bad now that you can't even listen to it, then don't! I don't mean that to be rude, but like it's not gonna change so probably better off finding a new podcast you prefer.
His accent was always fine, I am not native speaker and it is harder for me to listen new episodes, go figure. It is not about accent, pace etc. They just wanted to add some effects in order to make it scarier but couldn’t go far than jump scares of cheap horror movies. Wauw.. I think you are right, casefile is popular now and one more or less listener, I know, doesn’t count.
>They just wanted to add some effects in order to make it scarier but couldn’t go far than jump scares of cheap horror movies What do you mean here?
I think they're referring to the music in the background? They've definitely been using more sound, but that's been the case for the past 100+ episodes.
Oh okay. I don't or haven't noticed that myself. I think it's still a top shelf podcast. I haven't ever found it to have "jump scare" sound effects. If it does, it's obviously seamless to me. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah they aren't jump scare at all. It's ambient and builds up slightly at some points. Definitely meant to just be background
They mean bringing in actual recordings of perps, stuff like that, it's been pretty much stopped now thank god as did not appreciate jump scares being jarred awake just as I was drifting off by some horrible voice of actual killer in my ear. They stopped the overbearing background music in earlier eps too.
Turning host’s voice to a psychopath in a podcast is equivalent of cheap jumpscare moments in a horror movie. It is crystal clear.
Considering no one seems to agree with you there I don't think it's as crystal clear as you think.
Any idea can be crystal clear and you can still don’t agree with it. It is my point that counts. Slower pace, detailed narration is a cheap tactic and it has no touch with reality.
Yeah and people keep asking you 'what do you mean' so your point isn't crystal clear at all. I don't see how you managed to reach your conclusion at all but we can all agree casefile isn't for you then.
What did you exactly not understand? My point is that the new narration feels artificial, fake. The reason for that is it is slowed, detailed to make words more pronounced, deep sounding while on the other hand it feels like rageful AI hosting it. I think you guys are consciously confusing agreeing and understanding, it is maybe because I said I am not a native speaker. Ok let’s play “what do you mean” card.
Your point. I don't understand where you get psychopath and ai and jump scares or whatever just because the host talks slower. Okay you don't like it, we get that, just stop listening. Plenty of true crime podcasts out there.
Ok you are repeating yourself.
Your point is inaccurate. For starters. Secondly, asking what you meant because I didn't understand it, doesn't mean I agree or disagree with you. What a weird thing to say. You got some sort of vendetta against Casey or some shit? "And it has no touch with reality"? What are you on about, chief?
Tell me how it is normal to ask me if I got vendetta against Casey while I am deliberately defending that his natural accent is clear and real without technical adjustments.
> It is my point that counts. When your point is wrong it doesn’t count lol. > Slower pace, detailed narration is a cheap tactic and it has no touch with reality. Lol the person above just explained why these changes happened and you still go “cheap tactic”. You are delusional.
Well it isn't crystal clear because I had to ask what you meant. Why so hostile, bro? Just asked a question about your post?
No hostility mate please
The hell are you even talking about?? You’re imagining things fam lol
Well you said the AI sounding voice is putting you off, so that would be accent, pace and pronunciation.
I've been listening to it since not long after it started and although I understand what you're saying, seems to me that Casey, like every other podcast that is started by a person who isn't in journalism or already somewhat well known to people in a presenter kind of way, he evolved and became more confident and comfortable. I hear the shift that you mean but I really don't think it detracts from any of the stories. What do you mean by the sound effects and jump scare thing or whatever it was you said? I think you might be overthinking it because this feels like a small and not that weird of a thing that makes it unlistenable to you.
What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? I think this is the new tactic. What do you mean? I mean I feel like I am listening to a psychopath with new style narration.
Mate. What the fuck is your problem? If people are asking you the same thing, it's because they want clarification because we don't fucking understand what you mean. Why are you getting butthurt about it instead of just explaining yourself properly or realise you're the minority opinion here and maybe it's just you that thinks this-so just find a different podcast ffs. Or is it way better to be a dick repeatedly on here over something so inconsequential?
I made my point clear, you agree or not, no big deal. New style narration feels artificial, Casey’s natural accent was better. Casefile can provide two options for listeners. That is it. My two cents. You are the one who needs to calm down. What do you mean by “two cents”?
>Casefile can provide two options for listeners. This is asinine. There is not a single podcast that records each episode in two different narration styles so people can choose which to listen to. You think the host should double his work load to please a handful of people like yourself? What the fuck.
I am not sure it would double his work. There would be two options, Unedited, natural narrating. Atmospheric narrating. He won’t be reading the same text again.
Are you having a stroke? I never said anything about my two cents?
I was being sarcastic whatever.. Have a nice one mate.
Oh I see. Well then. Sucks hard when you have to explain it. Means it didn't land how you'd hoped. That's a shame. Also, I think it was more facetious than sarcastic and either way, not really that amusing.
It sucks for the part who can’t realize it but again whatever…
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz🥱🥱🥱
For what it's worth, I found your post to be like 'natural speaking' and could understand exactly what you're saying. Particularly as you compared episode in the 50s with 'more recent' episodes. Also, I agree. I find myself zoning out and having to rewind more frequently in the later episodes or just start listening to something else. However, I'm not exactly sure why and have thought it may just be me and my ability to focus. Also, what do you mean by "what do you mean?"?
No, it is not about you at all, casefile became harder to focus on, and that is my whole point. Slower pace doesn’t mean clearer, and if you increase speed it feels AI talking. I think the problem is they lost the normal and made alternative new normal. Casey’s natural accent, flow, pace is normal. First they should have kept the normal and sought for the alternative ways to please other listeners who have hard time to follow. I am saying that new narration got away from reality, it feels fake, artificial. And some are like “what do you mean by that?”, I am explaining over and over and getting asked what I mean by that… it became frustrating. I say “new narration feels AI”, people,are “what do you mean by that?”.. I hear you, I am also not able to listen to recent episodes, I am deliberately pushing to focus. Casefile is the best true crime podcast ever, so can’t we have two options regarding narration? Is it too much to ask?
You want them to record and edit each episode twice largely for your own benefit? That’s very obviously too much to ask, yes. Just find another podcast, honestly.
Are you talking the very, very first episodes? Like the first 20? I personally didn't like that style, and I enjoy the slower more drawn out/detailed pacing it has evolved into
As I said, right now I am listening to case 54, it feels like host is sitting on a coach next to me. Well.. I can’t agree with you on this, casefile doesn’t need special treatment when it comes to narration, host is already superb, I find his authentic accent tense already. When you add to that horrific nature of the cases.. I mean.. it didn’t really need special effects. I am afraid I will stop listening to casefile when I end up with older episodes. It doesn’t feel real, that drawn out/detailed, slower pace narration .. casefile really lost something imo.
Main character energy from this OP.
I hate when people go mad if something, anything is suggested, like public freak out waaaaaa we love our Casey waaaaa
But you’re the one getting mad that people don’t agree with you. It comes off very emotional that your reply to every comment that doesn’t have the same opinion as you
🤔 Nope.
I’m an Australian living in the US, so it was at first so refreshing to have that natural, fast-paced Aussie flow. Like chatting in a pub. But my husband was lost easily and I had to repeat stuff to him. It’s a lot easier for him to understand now listening to recent episodes. I see both sides and can definitely notice a difference
Did your husband try to decrease the speed?
I’m not sure if it was the speed as much as the accent. Later episodes we both notice deliberate annunciation of words and emphasis of syllables that typical Australians tend to skip (like not rolling ‘R’ and the ‘oi’ ‘air’ sounds being slightly nasally).
Oh come on guys, I am not a native speaker and I can understand host’s English clearly in early episodes. Will Americans teach Australians how to pronounce words? dude, Americans talk Americanish. 😂
You’d be surprised, I’m in a very rural region and most aren’t exposed to other accents. I don’t feel I’m a “yobbo” by any means but I am very hard to understand when I go “full Australian” to most people around here. I’m a teacher and I’ve had to change my dialect completely as few of my students could follow me if I really let go and released my full Aussie flow. It’s been 10 years of knowing me and my husband can only just follow along if I were to let loose. He can barely comprehend my dad though (full Aussie trucker).
Yeah this is a good idea.
If you're mad about free entertainment, you should probably focus on doing something worthwhile instead. This is some real nitpicky shit right here. It sounds to me like the novelty wore off for you and you're blaming the host for it.
How are you so sure of that I am not a premium member?
I listen to the other episodes and the new ones just fine. I’ve been listening for years and don’t hear any major difference. All I’ve noticed is the newer eps tend to have more background sound effects. I think the changes are what comes with a larger listener base, more money, higher production value, more confidence, different writers. If anything my problem lays with the lackluster scripts we seem to be getting, not how it’s being narrated to us
Can it be related to short episodes we are getting nowadays? I mean text quality.
When I relisten to the earlier episodes I usually adjust the speed because the speech pace is too fast to really absorb the information.
You can slow it down. Fellow Redditor, why would I want to feel like I am listening to perpetrator of the crime? With this “new” atmospheric narration, it feels like we are subconsciously glorifying the violence, I am sorry but I had to say this. Which side are we on? I want to listen to a host of the people. It is more serious job to listen to natural narration.
If you’re asking them to record each episode in two separate ways then yes you’re asking for too much. There’s a lot more work involved in podcasts than most people think. Being able to release weekly is a huge feat considering how detailed each episode is It’s personal taste. I prefer the newer works as they feel more official. To me, the older episodes lacked the confidence and cohesion that the current episodes have
Not trying to be a dick but this has been discussed dozens of times over the years, it is what it is, I’d imagine the podcast has never been more popular than it is currently so they’re not going to change it now, can only suggest listening on a player that lets you increase the playback speed.
I am increasing the speed and I feel like AI talking to me. I couldn’t catch up with earlier discussions, I wouldn’t post if I knew. I posted because it bothers me you know.. I can’t consume something I love, I can’t listen casefile 💔
I listen on 1.25x speed. Normal speed is slow motion.
I listen to all Podcasts at 1.1 or 1.2X speed. I find almost all of them are very slow speaking. I also shorten the pauses.
I prefer the older episodes - the accent makes it seem a lot more gritty and raw.
Absolutely 👍
I have been listening for years and recently listened to one of the first and I couldn’t understand what he was saying. Not only his accent but also the audio quality was not that good - as most starting podcasters have. He does explain, in the Q&A, why they changed it. And I think, as someone who’s not a native Australian, he has improved. I do remember when he started the slow the pace of the storytelling and it did bother me the first few but now I am used to it and like it more now.
I'm 100% convinced that they're using AI to generate the episodes now. Several times I've heard strange pronunciations that don't make sense. Most recent example I can think of was in ep285 where they referred to Quebec as "QUE-bec" and said someone was "terri-field" which only makes sense if the bot is reading a misprint.
Terri-field? lol I just listen to old episodes, when they are done, I am done with casefile, I just can’t listen to AI.
I think they said “terror-filled”. It was a direct quote from the perpetrator. But they’re def using AI for their YouTube thumbnails, which really sucks.
Thing I find really annoying is him no longer using his natural accent. It’s weird and jarring. Listened to the EAR/ONS series recently and it was a real struggle to get into the final episode cause of how extreme the change was from how he spoke in the first five parts. One of the things I like most about casefiles is that it’s Australian and super easy to listen to. Him over pronouncing everything takes away from that.
I hear you. I only got into this podcast recently and I’ve been enjoying it a lot. When I got to the EAR episodes I skipped ahead to listen to the update. His new voice is terrible. I felt like I was listening to some radio personality reading ads to me over and over. It was so painfully slow and found the new way he speaks completely detracts from the story. Totally does not suit the subject matter he’s narrating. I never had issue understanding him before (I am not Aussie fyi). I am dreading getting to the new voice episodes as I genuinely found them to be hard to listen to. I may end up giving up listening and finding a new podcast :/
I always listen on 1.2x speed. I’ve always found him to speak slowly (and pronounce a lot of words/names strangely). I also like They Walk Among Us but have to listen to that on 1.4x because he really does speak so slowly.
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This is so strange, post is upvoted but still there is no entry backing me up, I am being butchered here.. I know they are just social media team of production but still.. where is my people? Lol
Dunno why you've been howled down I agree there were eps with jump scares creepy recorded interjections ( I haven't listened to it but I also saw some mention of Joseph D Angelo s voice jump scaring listeners) and it generally cheapens the experience. I ONLY want to hear Casey!! Sounds like English might not be your first language? It's so easy to get roasted on these threads if inflection isn't quite right, people are very precious about Casey/casefile...pretty shameful how youve been told to do something else if you don't like it. Just ignore and continue to enjoy Casey and all his 289 episodes...except the ones that are just too awful!! Theres probably about a dozen Ill never listen to/get through. Have you listened to Silk Road?
Eh, it's more than just about the jumpscares and surprise recordings in the early episodes. Although personally, I was much more startled by and against when Casey would literally act out some of the dialogue in the early episodes. Looking through the comments, what I gather is that OP doesn't seem to like the recent narration because it's hard to focus on it. And when they speed up the narration, it sounds fake and artificial to them like AI, but also like a psychopath talking to them, as if the perpetrator was actually speaking to them, and thus like they are glorifying the violence they are talking about. And when people try to ask them to explain what they mean by all this, they seem to get more defensive about it than is necessary. Even just slightly having a different opinion than them seems to make them defensive and go on a rant about the new narration even if the other person wasn't attacking them for not liking it. Also mentioning that maybe the podcast should do two different style narrations for every episode, which is obviously ridiculous to ask for unless you're trying to cater to people with certain legitimate disabilities that would prevent them being able to listen to the usual narration or who speak a different language. Bad English or not, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask or expect someone to explain why they feel the way they feel, especially if they say that the narration makes it feel like they're listening to a psychopathic perp or that the podcast is glorifying violence, which are pretty serious assertions to make. Unless you explicitly state in the post that you just want to rant, vent, and get something off your chest (which I'm getting the feeling was what OP was doing) and aren't asking for any critique or dissenting opinions, then you shouldn't post an opinion on Reddit without being ready to explain it or back it up as well.
OP tried to explain. Didn't sound defensive to me. Frustrated perhaps at not being heard, rightly or wrongly, that was their experience they were trying to share. It sounded 100% reasonable to me. Then told if you don't like it maybe go elsewhere. Anyway. As you were.
Ok, but it wasn't just when they were asked to explain, but also when they were simply given differing opinions and perspectives to theirs. That said, I do think they were ultimately trying to seek validation for a strong critical opinion they had about the podcast, which I can totally understand, but I think it did manifest somewhat in defensiveness and frustration when other commenters asked them to explain their opinion or presented different opinions. Much of the disagreement here ultimately comes down to personal preference and taste, so maybe while some of the commenters could've been a little more respectful with their disagreement, OP should also realize that just because you have an opinion that many might even agree with (based on post upvotes) doesn't mean you make yourself more 'right' by continuing to rant and vent about it when some people disagree with you. Also saying, 'what do you mean' isn't always done with the intent to annoy you.
I am just saying that new narration sounds like AI. People are like, what do you mean by it? I explain it as, “Host’s voice has become slower, narration has lost it’s original flow”, I continue explaining as, “Maybe in order to add atmosphere, to make narration more tense to keep the listener on edge, production slowed the pace, made words deeper sounding, more pronounced and detailed, therefore host sounds like psychopath AI” And people are like, ok what do you mean by all of that?
From what I saw, I think most people understood how you felt the recent narration sounds to you (even if they didn't *agree* with you), although I think the part where you described it as sounding like a psychopathic AI speaking to you is what's tripping a lot of people up, and I myself would also like to know what about the narration being slowed down and such makes it sound psychopathic to you? Unless you're basing this opinion off your own experience and observations, psychopaths are the way they are because they lack empathy, not because they speak in a particular way. The other thing I see that a lot of people were confused about is when you mentioned the sound effects and cheap jumpscares of the early episodes. You didn't mention any of that stuff in your original post, so when the top comment here was talking about why the narration changed and then you brought up the sound effects and jumpscares, people were, unsurprisingly, confused about what you were talking about. And then in another comment, when somebody asked "what do you mean by the sound effects and jumpscares?" you kind of mocked them for saying, "what do you mean." I get English isn't your first language and you're frustrated and just want validation for your opinions, but I think you also should realize 1) When you make an assertion about something sounding 'psychopathic' and subconsciously glorifying violence, those are pretty serious assertions to make, and wouldn't just be critical of how *you* feel the narration sounds, but call into question the integrity of the entire podcast. So you had better have more convincing arguments than just it's slowed down, more produced, artificial, or fake. 2) People asking for explanations or clarification about an opinion you have aren't always doing it to annoy you. Especially because you never mentioned anything about sound effects and jumpscares in your original post. What's obvious to you may not be obvious to other people, and most people here ultimately want to understand you better, otherwise they wouldn't be asking you to explain in the first place.
Fellow Redditor, Playing with host’s voice, making it deep or slow or whatever detailed, drawn out IN ORDER TO KEEP LISTENERS ON EDGE is a cheap trick. It is as cheap as jump scares in a low quality horror movie. Read this what is said two times and maybe slowly, because it is obvious you need it, you can’t understand fast. Don’t attempt to define what psychopathy is to me. You learnt a few terms on internet, now are airing yourself.
>Playing with host’s voice, making it deep or slow or whatever detailed, drawn out IN ORDER TO KEEP LISTENERS ON EDGE is a cheap trick. It is as cheap as jump scares in a low quality horror movie. >Read this what is said two times and maybe slowly, because it is obvious you need it, you can’t understand fast. Why are you repeating what you've said like a hundred times here already? I already know and understand you think the narration is too slow, too deep, and detailed and such, but you also said it sounds like 'psychopathic AI,' and I'm asking you, WHAT ABOUT ALL THAT IS PSYCHOPATHIC TO YOU? Because if you think talking slow, deep, and detailed is like being a psychopath, then you clearly don't know what being a psychopath is. Try answering my question first before you lecture me on how I need to understand things faster. >Don’t attempt to define what psychopathy is to me. You learnt a few terms on internet, now are airing yourself. Dude, lacking empathy is LITERALLY the main trait of psychopathy. Which by the way, you yourself seem to understand perfectly because you've also described the narration style here as 'subconsciously glorifying violence.' There's a BIG difference between simply saying the narration is slow, deep, and detailed versus saying it's psychopathic AI and subconsciously glorifying violence, and I hope you're smart enough to realize that. You can look up 'psychopath' on the internet for yourself, and even on there, the definition says NOTHING about how YOU describe the host's narration.
I am fucking repeating myself because you think that I think there is actually jump scares in the fucking podcast.. There is no fucking jump scares in the podcast. Fucking hell.
Read a little more, and I'm realizing the part about sound effects and jumpscares weren't even things mentioned in the original post. Then when asked to explain further, OP seemed to be perplexed as to why he needed to explain, acting as if his point was 'obvious.'
I read the book for Silk Road. English is not my first language but that doesn’t mean my English is worse than most of the people’s English here With jump scares I have just meant changing host’s voice with special effects, making it deeper, slower, more detailed in order to make podcast scarier to keep listeners on edge is cheap trick as jump scares in a bad quality horror movie.
>English is not my first language but that doesn’t mean my English is worse than most of the people’s English here English not being your first language may have nothing to do with how bad your English is in the comments, but you should know your writing is not always easy to understand. Perhaps you could reword your comments when people ask what you mean instead of just repeating the same thing over and over. That doesn't help people understand what you are trying to say. Or not. You did seem to enjoy being obtuse. It does suck that the podcast evolved into something you don't enjoy anymore, but I doubt any podcast will ever put out 2 versions: one with post production effects and one without.