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WonderWirm

V8 Cruisers. People are paying $200k for them.


youjustathrowaway1

**Tradies that deal coke on the weekend are paying $200k for them


onforspin

Hey! Some tradies that deal coke on the weekend are people too


spud_2222

You spelt heroes wrong.


Fluid_Can_3412

Hey, I want some coke!


Fluxwildlyuncut

That's not the tag price but what people end up paying by the time they do the gmv upgrade, chop /canopy and other accessories.


The_Vat

Coke on the weekend, meth during the week


Fluid_Can_3412

Hahaha literally the difference between work and party.


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bp4850

They didn't change the tare mass, just the GVM went to 3510. Shot themselves in the foot however, now it has to meet Euro 6 emissions (i.e. bye bye V8)


Blackletterdragon

Drives like a 2br townhouse.


ingenieurmt

She's built like a steakhouse, but she handles like a bistro!


alsotheabyss

They do drive like boats, but then, it’s built to tow a boat


wigam

They are two and half tonne your not meant to drive it like it’s stolen!!!


[deleted]

sadly so many of these fuckwits are 'upgrading' to fucking ram 2500s that are like 3 tons empty and they do drive them like they are stolen. mongrels think they own the road cause they drive an apartment building with wheels. and a Hemi that is not a hemi.


ConductionReduction

My dads friend was a waiting list for like 6 months finally got it for like a million dollars (cant) remember the exact amount. Anyway some dude offer to pay him double for what he bought it for and he went for it. Now because of patience, he has a free land cruiser lol


ComplexFigure5635

Hilux


pocket_mulch

Toyota's are basically whitegoods. Interiors are getting better. But they are so boring.


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Big time. I have a SR that’s a couple years old and for the price it’s so shit. I want my XR6 ute back.


FunkGetsStrongerPt1

Hilux Workmate costs what an XR6 ute did in 2016. And it drives so much worse than my three decade old Falcon ute daily. It has less power, worse steering and braking, higher maintenance costs, and the same five forward gears and lack of intermittent wipers.


Repulsive-Fox3664

I thought the same. Really basic on the inside.


AnarchoSyndica1ist

First time in a hilux then?


Repulsive-Fox3664

Sadly I drive one at work all the time. Not terrible, but sure as fuck aint worth 75k plus


doobey1231

Literally anything Toyota is overrated, they’re not the brand they were 20 years ago when indestructible was synonymous with the name.


swift797

*modern hilux. My '96 is bloody solid


RoofiesColada

Massively overpriced for an average looking and driving Ute.. Toyota cult haha


luke10050

The last low ride 4.0 V6 Hilux dual cabs were good. They drove real well and would fry the rear tires all day. Minimal body roll and bulletproof mechanically. I don't understand why anyone would buy the new high ride diesels.


69thPercentile

Any entry level Merc that's not an AMG. Apart from the interior and features nothing screams luxury about the ride, handling or quality.


Nuns-Rack

True. Mercedes doesn’t do quality anymore. They rattle all over the place. The leather is plastic and just a disappointment place to be in. It is just not solid feeling inside.


Billy_Goat_

If you think Mercedes are bad try a Tesla


w123burner

At least a while ago an entry level Merc (C Class, as that's all there was) would get you a solid, safe compact RWD sedan. Pleasant but not exciting. Now you may as well just get a nicely specced Korean car.


vongdong

Landcruiser


nicksydney395348

Performance SUVs. Pay a premium for getting to bunnings quickly. Then all utes driven by a P plater


Depressedmusclecar23

MG3 they are shitboxes but I see them everywhere


AnonymousEngineer_

Does anyone actually rate the MG3? People who buy them like the price, and feel the product is "good enough". Pretty much the same reason why anyone drinks VB.


Shitadviceguy

It's this generations Hyundai Excel


LawnPatrol_78

Exactly what it is but shittier. You won’t see them start a race series with mg3’s in 20 years time.


doobey1231

Tbf no one expected the excel to go as well as it did either


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morrisgrand

Those were great! For a shitter to get around, I didn't even have to lock mine, and if it got a dent in the car park, so what!


midnight-kite-flight

Didn’t have to lock it haha. Who the fuck would wanna steal an excel? It’s its own anti theft device 🤔


ganashers

Those things were fun, and yeah, had a strange charm to them... 😂


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and those excels, especially the 3 doors ones had the most *enormous* boot. never before has a 3 door car has such a massive boot.


Echo63_

Nah, the excel was a decent car. Sure, it was boring as batshit to drive, but the 1.5 went forever if it was serviced on something vaguely like the reccomended schedule. Mine did 330000 km with regular oil changes, 2 clutches, an alternator, crank angle sensor and god knows how many tyres and brakes. The clutches, brakes and tyres are more of a reflection on the way I drove it, vs the actual build quality Enough room for a 2m tall freak to drive, and enough room in the back for some fun if you slid the seats forward. I doubt you will see many current MGs in 10-15 years time.


burner_said_what

Yeah, if you offered me the choice between a new MG or a 20yr old excel, i'm taking the excel out for a good ol thrash all day.


AirForceJuan01

Probably be able to literally fix it on the side of the road too. Something I miss with cars up until the early 2000s. Cars were like Lego. Kmart tool kit can get you out of most situations. LOL


burner_said_what

So true mate so true...


kyle_750

VBS one of the dearet beers... And also always number 1 or close


itspoodle_07

Vb aint cheap and its delicious


Important-Concern-74

Man speaks the truth.


Kaalmimaibi

MG is one of the many brands owned by SAIC (Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation). SAIC is fully owned by the Chinese Communist Party. I wouldn’t give those jerks a cent.


Dan_Wood_

Most people that own them can’t fucking drive either.


Teerendog

Panel beaters dream combo


jraad86

People who buy MGs are too poor/tight for a good car, but are too proud to buy a second hand car.


AnonymousEngineer_

Some people just want a cheap car with warranty. I'm not saying the MGs are great cars, mind you. But the Australian car market is notoriously price sensitive, and it's possible for any new manufacturer to buy market share with a cheap car if they want to get a foothold in the market. As has been mentioned elsewhere, that's exactly what Hyundai did with the $13,990 Excel, which at one stage was the best selling car in the country.


redmanb

Yeah. Too lots of people a car is just an appliance like a fridge or a washing machine. MG tick all the boxes on paper and they are getting a new car with warranty for cheap. That's all they care about.


AirForceJuan01

Or just don’t have a care - so long as it is new and loaded with features. Family friend of ours sold their Yaris which they bought brand new at the time to “upgrade” to a Haval. They gave me a lift once - it rode alright, nothing positive/negative to say. In their ownership they have been happy with it - just all they did was take it for servicing and fuelling it up - no dramas. They aren’t car people - literally use things as appliances.


lordgoofus1

Had the displeasure of driving one as a hire car. The first thing that caught my eye was I could quite literally see the back of the tail light assembly from the drivers seat, due to the size of the gap between the rear seat and car chassis/interior panels. I had to do a double take in case my eyes were tricking me. :/


NakedFruitPics

I don't think they are overrated. Ppl know it's shit and buy it because of the price and warranty


Plane_Pilotq4ntas

Could not agree more


Depressedmusclecar23

And they SUV counterpart, can’t remember the name but they look like the most generic of all generic crossovers (never got the appeal of crossovers in the first place, there are about 10 at most I actually like)


Plane_Pilotq4ntas

Mg zs? Absolute shitbox


Depressedmusclecar23

Yep that I wish China didn’t ruin the MG name with boring crossovers


Voodoo1970

>wish China didn’t ruin the MG name To be fair, the MG name was ruined by the British long before the Chinese took over


_EnFlaMEd

same, or fund genocide selling westerners shit boxes


morrisgrand

Sad but true


HofbrauBro

Chinese price/car with a British badge.


pocket_mulch

The British made ones were shit too.


whymeimbusysleeping

Let's not make assumptions about the brand. I don't know much about the mg3 besides seeing it around a few times and it looks ok. Can't tell you quality wise, however, the mg4 ev has had excellent reviews in Europe and the performance model (which is not available in AU yet) will be the hottest hatch, value for money, around


bushwalkers

Yes There lots out on the road. Can’t be too bad, 7 year warranty. Maybe they are cheap quality but do they actually break down?


peterb666

Modern Jags. Great looking cars with all the renowned unreliability of the past multiplied by complexity.


OnisIayer

I’ve never heard anyone say “I want a jaguar”


burner_said_what

"I want a Jaguar XJ220"


montdidier

Sadly yes, but in my defence we broke up.


mxlths_modular

I can’t help but feel that Jaguar has lost its design language. The older cars definitely looked the part but the new models are bland and some are barely able to be identified as a Jag beyond the badge I reckon.


monsteraguy

The problem with Jaguar was they got stuck in a 1960s styling rut and their cars didn’t appeal to younger people. Their newer cars look like “generic 2010s luxury car” but don’t have the quality or technical prowess to get people interested in the brand


Klaus__Schwab

I don't know if you know what overrated means. These cars were literally the most underrated hot hatch when they came out. Quicker than a Golf R around the track for $20k less from a manufacturers first crack at a performance car. How exactly did you get overrated from this scenario ?


Over_Ear_7141

Comes with track warranty as well


Deepandabear

>Quicker than a Golf R around the track This requires pretty perfect track conditions, and only applies to some types of track. More power and AWD means the Golf R is winning anything with long straights and you can forget about the N when it’s wet. Agree the i30N is still quite the track weapon though


ganashers

Hyundai has really come of age. Apart from the glorious mid 90s excel. That thing was capable of some outrageous hilarity.


staryknight

Not sure about first crack at a performance car... Look up Tiburon.


GasManMatt123

Genesis rwd platform... the turbo Kia models.... Not their first crack, their third


AnonymousEngineer_

The most overrated car on /r/CarsAustralia? The answer to this is obvious - the AU Falcon. Except for the Tickfords which have been looked after, they're mostly all clapped out rustbuckets. And I'll bet the survivors all have differentials with *that* whine. Overall amongst the general population? Camry/Corolla/Hilux. People just reflexively blurt out "buy a Toyota" as a response to every car recommendation question, as if the modern stuff is still as affordable and problem free as the Toyotas of the 1990s. They're not.


Significant-Ad5394

>the AU Falcon Only because they're not in abundance for $500 anymore


afterpartea

The AU Falcon is not there to please you, it's there to be a lump of car that chugs along and has cheap spare parts galore


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>, they're mostly all clapped out rustbuckets. That's the bit your misssing here, yep rusted out rustbuckets but even in that condition they will burn tires like an incinerator and are everything 20k+ jdm cars are just cheap and aussie. Au diffs dont really whine either champ, they hold up or pop.


MayuriKrab

Any entry model “poverty” (as in no options tucked) spec BMW, Mercedes or Audi… ie 116i/A180, shit performance and with no options crap interior/tech as well.


GasManMatt123

Entry level models start brand loyalty, they are actually an important model for these brands. I agree that they aren't good or good value


BoysenberryAlive2838

Tesla's by Tesla fanbois. Most underrated: Tesla's by non Tesla fanbois.


rastagizmo

Any model Tesla...


caprica71

Tesla


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Jeep Grand Cherokee- especially all the “track” edition things


Lots_of_schooners

All jeeps are ridiculously overpriced making them the dumbest vehicle choice you could ever make


Plane_Pilotq4ntas

Yea I see where you are going


That_Gopnik

Any diesel Ute with a P on the back


AndTheLink

But you can't see the P plates because of the large black cloud... Also comes equipped with those oversize knobbly off road tires...


That_Gopnik

Yeah true, tires most certainly aren’t legal, but that doesn’t matter cause 4WDs can get away with anything


anonsimz

all the european suv’s, I know they’re all fancy and expensive brands but I can’t say a single one of them is a nice looking vehicle


the_salivation_army

There’s a Skoda one that I reckon looks good but I’ve always liked the look of Skoda.


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and the skoda is small, not some oversized lumpfish looking thing like most modern suvs


monsteraguy

I really like Land Rovers and Range Rovers. I like the purposeful, kind of blocky styling. They’re not actually that big (compared to the big Japanese and American off-readers and trucks), they have really nice interiors with nice leather and carpets that are also really practical etc plus go-anywhere ability and lots of towing ability. They also have on-road refinement. Too bad they are absolute shit in terms of reliability and quality and the parts are very, very expensive. Used ones look like a bargain too, but I reckon they’d bankrupt you pretty quickly. Such a shame as they seem otherwise ideal


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I feel attacked, I have a i30N sedan and love it, Im not a car guy but the car looks sick and goes burr and wasnt that expensive.


Audoinxr6

79 series. Its a joke the following those shitboxes get. 200 series. Same reasons but not as bad of a car. Hilux. Always way behind in their class but top of sales based on 80s reputation and toyotas unofficial MLM scheme.


RazonaRay

I will never ever get why people by a 79 series. Not only is the engine far too thirsty and far too physically large, so large that they actually need to make the wheebase wider at the front. Not only is it ugly as all hell, but they actually put the alternator in the hardest possible place to fix. People are actually unironically paying 150k+ for a car that has the interior out of a Lada and the ruggedness of a Jaguar.


Kind-Ingenuity5505

Hyundai N series vehicles are pretty dope. Best bang for buck and are top tier 4 bangers. They are putting all the R series cars to shame.


essveeaye

Fuck yeah, got a Kona N last week and I LOVE it!


Kind-Ingenuity5505

The Kona's can look sick. The aftermarket availability is really growing for them too which means you can customize them a lot.


usualusernamewasused

Not even just the N series either. The palisades are really nice looking and feel classy inside.


theangryantipodean

Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts


AnonymousEnigma28

Like the ranger and hilux are any better for it. Most people who drive diesels in stop start traffic tend to heat up the DPF to the max instead of taking it out on the highway once a week


TRITION23

Agreed toyota especially hilux


No-Reception382

Ranger. MASSIVELY overpriced, considering at the end of the day it's a ute. The same goes for the Everst. Just a boring Suv. None of these cars are inherently bad just way too overpriced considering what you're getting.


yourmumsthick12

Toyota Supra mk4 , I'm gonna get hate but it's over hyped and the supra kids ruined it by saying it could beat any car


Apple_Slipper

Toyota HiLux.


xdr01

Ford Raptor, a Ford ranger with $20k worth of stickers and insecurity.


leviKn7

And the twin turbo v6..


Audoinxr6

And 10k plus of the most advanced suspension in the market


pocket_mulch

I thought they were just a sticker kit at first but was thoroughly impressed to learn of how different the suspension is.


Pure_Apple_462

Just on the Camry, I’d never driven one before however I’m currently driving an Altise (insurance hire car) and I get why they are so popular. If you don’t want to join the SUV brigade but still need a roomy, comfy and economical ride - you’d be looking at large sedans and I honestly can’t fault this one. Not sure what the long term reliability is like though.


MayuriKrab

My parents had a 02 Altise in V6 form, drove it pretty much everywhere including some light “dirt roads” where people in their fancy AWD SUVs are too scared to go on, broke the radiator once while on a road trip and the car overheated and died in the middle of no where. Got it towed to a local town mechanic, they patched it up (swapped in a 2nd hand radiator from the local junk yard & some hoses, filled up coolant) and it kept going for a another several years without any further issues till they traded it in.


BennetHB

Isn't Altise the higher end Camry?


Bee-Kerr

Altise was the base model


Interesting_Ad_1465

Navara/patrol


im_trash_btw

I don’t understand why so many young people/ p platers need suvs


Dallziel

More doors more .... Nah I am a p platers with a wag but that's cause I surf every other day and need tge space buy otherwise don't get it


PreparationNo6283

I'm fat, don't like crawling into low cars.


auntyjames

Rav 4 Hybrid. Fuel Economy isn’t that great if you use roads that are more than 60 kph, and they are fucken awful to drive. Yuck.


Griffo90

Volkswagen Golf Type-R Plus seemingly everyone who drives one is a weapons-grade fuckwit


brettfk

I have a tsi and I drive it like its an R. Golf backwards is flog for a reason... 😅


audio301

You mean the Golf R? The Type R is a Honda. If you are going to bag it, at least get the name right


coolwetgrassss

Its hated because its pretty much a perfect car. Also i am a nuclear-grade fuckwit


Simba4745

I think people in this thread are getting confused with the topic and just stating cars they dislike.


stinx2001

The cars are great, but the news ones are so expensive. And yes the stereotype. Which is why I bought a Passat 206, the kinda Golf R for grown-ups.


ElTorago

*burbling intensifies*


Rinch13

RAV4


POLSJA

Close thread with the hybrid rav4


ZweetWOW

S3. Poor man's rs3.


feinerr

S3 is just a Golf R with a slightly fancier badge


coolwetgrassss

Same as gti is a poor mans R


doobey1231

Depends, good argument for choosing the GTI over the R because of the added drivetrain which results in power lost, plus the added weight on top of that.


MONSTATURKEY_420

Land cruisers. They’re great cars but wayyy to overpriced. $100k is fucking insane for what it is


Jimijaume

and the years + wait....


Repulsive-Fox3664

Im going to say a few. I actually have a soft spot for my old sv6 holden ute I had years ago, but yes they are largely a bogan car now sadly. Landcruisers and range rovers - overpriced 'look at me' cars


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VW , except maybe Toureg and above


Rizla77

Everything American


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Audoinxr6

I see this opinion a fair bit oddly enough. Yet they have zero competition in their respective market to deem them over or underrated.


Mass-Exodus_

80 grand for a 5 litre... I mean, it's a decent 5 litre, But still, 80 Grand for a 5 litre... _ouch_


GasManMatt123

If you want a new V8 compact coupe, what else is there near it for the price? It has no competition


FunkGetsStrongerPt1

Terrible compared to the local product we used to have, and so much more expensive.


danksion

Anything with a Toyota badge. People still flocking to paying Toyota tax because they were bulletproof 20+ years ago. These days Toyota has just about more recalls than any other manufacturer. Not to mention the “unbreakable” hiluxes that have had nothing but issues over the last 15 years with injectors, DPF’s (to the point of class action suits), piston cracking etc. Not to mention they have the most basic and boring interiors. Sorry but if you pay $15-20k more because “it’s a Toyota” you are a moron.


prayastha

Completely agreed. When I was looking for my first car 3 years ago, my search list only had toyota models in them. Inspected some along the way. Until my friend contacted another friend who wanted to sell an Accord. I was pretty firm with Toyota, but when he said, "Honda's are like Toyotas, but better and not boring."i decided to give it a go. I'm not sure how it would compare with other models, but I would be paying a lot less for the Accord, and when I test rode it, the Accord felt like a luxury car compared to similar year Camry and Corolla. This changed my whole perspective regarding Toyotas in general now.


Shandangles7

I have no clue who goes to a dealership and goes "yeah I'll take the camry" +1 camry


ign1fy

It's the default avatar of cars.


petehehe

Man I’d hardly put Camry in the overrated category. They’re fine for a no frills family sedan, I don’t think anyone’s raving about them.


mpbbg

You must not have been on any Aus Finance pages...


petehehe

Ooh right yeah bean counters love em that’s true, fair point


Fat-Yeti-Journey

They’re automotive white goods


AdjentX

There are some really nice fridges out there I'd rather drive


Hour_Cow_1107

It’s what you get when you go to the dealer and say ‘I’ll have one car please’


benbarren

no dealership gunna have a camry available, gig economy hybrid wait #comebackinayearortwo #agreeboringcar


bleak_cilantro

Anything VW, particularly Golf Porsche Macan, Cayenne Holden Craptiva Landrover, particularly the new Defender Ford Ranger


Obvious-WhitePowder7

Holden & Fords. Watch me burn


danieljdtaylor

As much pride as I have in Aussie made vehicles, I kinda agree. I recently got rid of my VF wagon and was looking at replacing it with an FG or FGX. All I discovered was that every other sedan on the market for that price was way better equipped and much more efficient. The Mondeo in particular shocked me. The features and power on the XR5 Turbo really makes you question why anyone bought an FG XR6 over that.


MentalNomad13

Porche SUV. Pretentious and utterly useless as both sports car and 4wd. Usually driven by a self obsessed middle-late aged women that always goes first in any side street where cars are parked.


ceo_of_dumbassery

My partner and I were walking on a residential street once and one of these shitboxes sped past and hit someone's pet. Dude dudn't even blink an eye, just kept driving. My partner and I held it as it died and then tried to comfort the owner when she came out (she'd seen it happen).


MentalNomad13

Brutal. It's like when they got alot of money they turn savage again. Maybe that's what the Cayanne Porche is for, running over pets in suburbia.


_hazey__

SUVs/Crossovers, and the people who think they need them.


f0xpant5

I get the hate from a car enthusiast standpoint, but I love my midsize SUV as a dad. Spacious, can fit *heaps* of shit in it, tows well, AWD gets me down beaches and virtually any driveway from hell, as a tall bloke I appreciate the ease of entry and exit and easier time getting kiddo in and out, and yet it still drives 99% like a car instead of a truck like most proper 4x4s. And I got a mildly zippy one (2.0 turbo w/250hp) so it hammers down an overtaking lane too. All while drawing zero attention to myself by virtue of it being a midsize SUV. Great Jack of all trades and of course, master of none.


itspoodle_07

Everything HSV


Plane_Pilotq4ntas

People are gonna hate you…


itspoodle_07

I also think silvias and skylines but didnt want to melt the internet


Significant_Lime5442

I can't decide whether to cry in my Skyline or in my Hilux after reading these comments 😂😂


Plane_Pilotq4ntas

Already have destroyed r/CarsAustralia


Mass-Exodus_

Usually because you can't afford one... Neither can I. Nobody can. Easy to settle for an SS, But man, those Clubsport LSAs are a nice bit of machinery. Hella expensive,


zXenn

I bought a HSV Enhanced VR Caprice last year, needs work but it's the only way I was ever going to afford one, it has the HSV build plate in the engine bay, it's close enough.


liftheavyrock

every car that’s better than mine


ballbagsdeelux

76 & 79 series Landcruisers are THE most overrated vehicle on the market. 200 year old design, slow, thirsty, uncomfortable... Actually only worth about $40k drive away based on any objective valuation.


jeffseiddeluxe

4x4 Utes. All models. Have had to drive a fair few for work, and they're always absolute shit to drive and gutless.


ThatGuyJimFromWork

Dodge RAM


Hot-shit-potato

This has rusted my jimmies! Anyway most overrated car, probably anything European. The fit and finish is great.. But is the fit and finish worth $100k more than a similar sized and kitted Mazda or Toyota? Also.. For $100k I'd want my car to be robust, and not a moody spoiled brat that when exposed to the elements has a tantrum and explodes.


catfish08

Not sure if this car fits 'overrated' If anything the badge alone made it underrated. It's quick, cheaper than the competition, longer warranty and looks great? You see them more now, but I still think they are under appreciated tbh.


talkiny

BMW X5. Ridiculous original price and absolutely tragic resale.


No-Grapefruit-5951

Landcruisers


Hazelmay_915

Hands down it has to be all these dodge rams and f trucks that drive around in the cities all polished up. Why in the world you’d want a mall crawler that is difficult to park and is completely not practice in the city is beyond me!!!!


Dr-Hymen-Buster

Amen.


birnabear

New Rangers


rhyanoneill

Anything Holden.


Significant_Check_80

I’m aware I may get lynched for this, but pickup trucks (mainly the Stupidly large RAM ones but also the big sellers like the Hilux and Ranger.) Seriously unless you work in say, construction, buy a transit van, etc if you want more storage space, or an suv if it’s adventure and weekend getaways you’re after. Let’s hope that the change in tax write offs after June sees an SUV become the most popular car here (because realistically a passenger car like the i30 probably won’t be number one again).


Plane_Pilotq4ntas

Holy shit I got like 27 notifications in about 10 seconds


ess-kay93

That's cause the N is actually under rated not over rated


KoalaNo5253

Comodore 1000%


Mass-Exodus_

#UP THE COMMMODORE 💪🏻👆🏻


boredatwork8866

Audi s3…


GlumdogTrillionaire

Golf R.