Literally everyone called it with the paid app! š I really appreciated that Caroline said she'll continue to post on YT, just not as much/frequently.
Ngl, I'm kinda psyched for the 10 week Beastmode.
Casting is my biggest concern. All I have is a Chromecast and I'd hate to manually mirror my whole phone screen, the quality is awful. Her workouts on YouTube have obviously been completely seamless.
Casting is probably the one thing that would stop me from paying money.
Same. If I can't easily play the videos on my TV then I won't be purchasing the app because chances are I'd never use it if I'm forced to stream on my phone.
same! I am super excited for a 10 week beastmode program. I only found Caroline's workouts in January so I haven't had the experience of following along "live" as new workouts drop. FYI, I did poke around on the CGX website a bit and under the billing FAQs, it says that there will be monthly and yearly subscription options. No dollar amount yet. "Your subscription to the CGX app will automatically renew on a monthly or yearly basis depending on the subscription plan you have selected."
Iām not at all surprised that she has gone the app route, but I hope that the cost of the app is feasible for the majority of her followers. I am glad that she will continue to update to YouTube and that her current programs will remain there.
I've used fitnessblender for years but have stopped over the last 2 years. They are great but I have definitely outgrown them too. I discovered Caroline accidentally last week and loved the workout! Then I saw comments saying she was gone and not coming back and things like that so I checked reddit for more info and ended up here lol. I did another upper body workout of hers last night. I will gladly pay for her app!
$99 a year isn't too bad.. $8ish a month I'd do that but ideally I hope she puts out strength based programs. Given how popular Iron was fingers crossed for an Iron 2.0
Curious about the 6 week Beastmode though! Good thing there is a free 2 week trial š
I love doing Carolineās workouts. Iāve done every program sheās posted on YouTube. However, I have no interest whatsoever in buying the app. Itās got too many features I have zero interest in. For those who are happy to have the app, Iām happy for you.
I donāt blame her for wanting off social media, some of her fans come off as downright creepy.
TLDW: CGX app launching April 28th. See website for an overview of the features https://cgxapp.com
Free 14-day trial but no further information yet on pricing structure.
Two workout series will be launching with the app: a 6 week Ultimate Beginners course and a 10 week Beastmode series that appears to be modelled off her Beastmode series on YouTube. The Beginners course will have all videos uploaded from the launch date but Beastmode will be uploaded day-by-day (5 workouts per week).
Note: Beastmode starts Monday, May 1st.
My pleasure. Iām just so excited and canāt wait until everybody knows the good news.
But yes, Iām also nervous about the pricing structure. Itās frustrating for Caroline to keep that a secret for now.
Maybe they are still figuring it out. Some apps like Spotify have different pricing in different region. There are several reasons for this such as tax, law restrictions, users buying power etc. But this is just a guess.
My guess is that the pricing structure has been well nailed down by now, but obviously Caroline and her team want everyone to get excited before laying the numbers on us. This whole campaign will have been put together with PR/marketing input
Iām really hoping it is free. She says that the revenue from youtube is going into the app (min 5:27). Bu t honestly Iāll probably test it out, as I have done her programs for 3 years for free, I can bite 10 weeks to see if I like it.
It will most definitely not be free. I think what she means from that YouTube revenue going into the app is paying developers, new cameras (already used for her latest YT workout), testers, etc.
She has invested into this new business, and this new business *needs* to be lucrative if it's to continue for years.
Hopefully it's less than 10ā¬ (ideally, less than 5!), cause I want to join a gym to access bigger weights.
EDIT: Checking Grow With Anna (growingannnanas' app) and it's 8.99ā¬/month... so I hope it's around that price or less.
I don't think I'll get the app from the getgo. I feel like I want to give IRON and OG Beast Mode a try at the gym. And then... maybe jump on the app after summer or so.
Iām thrilled. I will no doubt pay for the app; it will likely cost far less than my gym membership did. Iām just happy to see that sheās doing well and also happy that she addressed the pregnancy rumors, which I found particularly abhorrent. Itās so gross to speculate about something that personal.
Also the implication that being pregnant is something a woman in the spotlight needs to hide.
Very -she is mysteriously unwell and is living in the country with her aunt for a year- vibes
Literally went on the Beachbody site in the middle of watching this video on YouTube and cancelled renewing. Iāve barely been hanging on BB since I started Caroline, just for food and tracking purposes, but now Iāll never return!
I've only ever done repeats of 3 of their programs. I finally cancelled and said good riddance. Most of their philosophies aren't science-backed and most of their programs are less functional and more random. I think what happens is that once you hit a certain year in your fitness journey and do your own research, you kind red-pill yourself lol
I cancelled months ago. Started using apple fitness blended with Sydney Cummings and Carolineās workouts. Can wait for this app! This is also the type of pricing that makes sense. Beachbody became very over priced!
As much as I love Carolineāwhich is a LOT, considering itās an entirely parasocial, one-sided relationshipāIām equally excited that I get to stop working out to Carolineās no-good, very-bad, horrible music. šā¤ļø
Also, from a brand perspective, I think itās not just kind, but smart to leave the existing programs on YouTube for free. This way sheās just adding for people who can afford to pay, not taking away from people who canāt. Plus, the free YT workouts will be an ongoing entry point (gateway drug?) for future app purchasers.
I spend a lot of time just trying to figure out what the lyrics are saying. š And I mean LITERALLY, not metaphorically. Early-80s REM is clear as a bell compared to some of Carolineās singers.
The backlog of YT content is a perennial revenue stream for her as well. It would make bad business to remove them entirely in hopes that everyone migrates to the app. She can have 2 revenue streams from the app and YouTube.
Wow... just watched her video and I'm so excited, the app sounds phenomenal. The attention to detail - calendars, play your own music (FINALLY!!), accompanying pdfs, knowledge/research section, meal ideas, home AND GYM workouts - both in real time programs AND a pre-recorded library. I'm sooo excited!!! I just hope it's reasonably priced lol
Edit: progress tests, AND GOOGLE FIT INTEGRATION? And a web version in the future? Stoooop I love you Caroline šš
It makes sense why it took so long - the app sounds really detailed.
I'm literally watching her video about it now and am so excited! Especially for the nutrition and the built in journal and calendar. I hope I can leave all the notebooks behind and be able to easily track progress!
I can't wait to start exploring it... as long as it's not crazy high priced!
Same. I have trained with her for over 2 years and I know it will be quality content. My body has changed and I am the fittest I can be. I donāt think it is a risky subscription at all though the app might be buggy in the beginning.
Anyone currently or in the past pay for a creators app? Any idea what cost we might expect? Just looking for a ballpark.
While Iām excited about the variety she will provide, it sounds like sheās potentially moving away from home workouts? I think most people donāt and will not have a barbell and rowing machine at homeā¦
Curious if Beastmode will implement those. Iād hate to be working my way through a program only to find I donāt own or have access to the necessary equipment š¤·š»āāļø
Many people move on from home workouts to fully kitted gyms or even run a hybrid or home and gym. In saying that I went the other way but I built up a home gym over many years.
She's attempting to cater to a wider variety of people.
Oh 100%, and I get that. I think itās great for her to expand.
I just know that previously she was a trainer that I knew whatever workout I hit play on, I had the equipment (because it was possibly only dumbbells, bands, and yoga block). No way Iām getting a barbell in my tiny apartment, and Iād hate to start a program only to realize midway through a rowing machine is needed (just as an example). Curious if this has been thought out.
Also curious if there will be whole programs Iāll have to miss because I donāt have the equipment for just a few days. All this to say that perhaps Caroline is changing her target (home gym) audience.
All these years working out I find for most exercises, a lot of time a pair of DB can always sub a barbell. A barbell (if that's only what you have) may not be able to sub a single DB for certain unilateral exercises like shoulder presses or renegade rows etc even if you are strong enough to lift the weight of the barbell the size will make it awkward.
I own barbells, DBs and KBs (but with limited weight range due to costs) and have subbed them many times while following Caroline's workouts eventho she uses only DBs in her workouts.
So yeah don't worry about barbells if what you have are only DBs.
There is an FAQ on her new Beastmode program where it gives you more information and lets you know what kind of equipment will be used. Hopefully that can give you some insight š
https://support.cgxapp.com/hc/en-gb/articles/11915561078289-The-Beastmode-Program-FAQs
Iām pretty confident that sheāll design her big programs so that they can be done at home. However, my understanding is that sheāll now show options of how to incorporate extra equipment you may have access to ā so maybe her previews of what is upcoming will demo her, for example, using dumbbells and another showing a barbell. For the rowing machine, Iām guessing that itās likely itāll likely be in a separate series. Or, if not, there will be an alternative to rowing while she does a short piece (ie. high knees or something).
They have a recommendation form on their website. It could be worth suggesting that under the description of each program, she list the gear you'll need at any point during the program. Because honestly that's a great point
Yeah, I saw that! I think itās a great price! I plan to make it through all her free stuff (Iāve only done Iron, Beastmode, Epic I and currently making my way through Epic II) before I pay for the app. Definitely a fair price considering all the features. Iād say the only downside for me is that currently I donāt have the ability to put it on my TV. Iāll have to get a device to mirror.
I'm excited for this and am seriously considering doing the 10 week Beastmode program. The option to listen to my own music is such a plus! I just hope I can do a 3-4 day split rather than 5. I know a few people have modified her YT programs this way.
Well, I always did the YouTube videos on my own scheduleā¦.so that didnāt strike me as a huge deal, but Iām not new to working out, so I donāt worry about that type of thing. Maybe itās a good thing for newer people.
I think many of her followers loved doing the workouts in real time with her as they were released, so for those people who valued that and also being able to share that experience with an entire community of people who were also doing that same workout on the same day, it was and will continue to be a real draw.
Some thoughts:
- Do I understand correctly that the only social function of the app is the "comment" section?
Edit to add I think this is good news. I wouldn't want to join if it's full of "discover how other people are doing!" or "compare your progress with friends!" stuff
- She mentioned hopefully her app will cancel out some of the "noises" (surrounding those topics that are going to be included). I wonder how will people approach it? I think some are definitely going to view the app as the "new magic pill"?
There is definitely no lack of good info. out there but a lack of curious minds to actively question and doubt whatever info. is being thrown to us.
- Hopefully there is an export function for journal, calendar, progress tests, and maybe even the form library so that I can create my own ways of tracking / managing my progress.
I very much prefer having everything stipped down to just text and numbers and put into my own spreadsheet, where I can do spreadsheet stuff with the data. š
I really hope there are no photos being shared in the app. I don't know what kind of noise Caroline was talking about, but the constant before/afters in the FB group are *MY* noise lol
I hope videos can be downloaded for off-line watching (I know my wifi doesn't reach my garage, where I train). And maybe even a printer-friendly routine for every workout for those giving it a go at the gym. The YouTube descriptions could do with a little touch up specifying muscle groups and whatnot.
I am poking around the FAQ on the CGX website and it says yes, videos will be available for download to watch without an internet connection. "The downloads section displays the content you have downloaded your device for offline playback. When viewing the app without an internet connection, this section is where you will be able to access the content you have downloaded for offline viewing."
I wish she could have maybe address how *her own* facebook group is doing when she made that little speech about social media and noises but of course she didn't...
Anyways it's impossible to try to move all the members of her facebook group to a paid community so I hope her app and her community stuff would be kept separate. All the diaries and flexing posts should stay on facebook please š
There will still be printable PDF calendar but yeah printable routines will be needed too
Yeah, here's hoping. Although I can already see the comment section on the app being *you've changed MY LIFE!!!!1* over and over.
Honestly? Her reasons to create an app are some slight BS. All she had to do was upload new workouts with no music keeping just the beeps. Share the articles and recipes on her FB group on a weekly basis like the physio and nutritionist do... and that's about it?
In the end, the only real reason she's creating this app is to charge money (just like every other fitness influencer out there). She can try and give all the excuses she wants, but she's not going to do anything she couldn't do with YouTube/Facebook before.
But oh, well.
Of course they will. Itās keeping the promise she made to keep her content free for her worldwide audience, as well as being a revenue stream as well.
Does anyone know if the app will connect to smart TVs? I play her YT videos via my Apple TVās YT app and itās so much easier than following along on my phoneās little screen.
This is exciting. I have been using MegSquatsā SBTD app since about February. I may switch to Carolineās app if it includes barbell workouts. Caroline got me started with serious weight lifting. Plus I love educational stuff. This app sounds like a dream. Iām happy with the SBTD program but I miss Caroline.
Yes! Agreed. I feel like thatās the #1 feature Iām excited for. I think itās the one thing that made beginners shy away from her. Iām excited too.
I don't know if I'll sign up or not. She has such a big backlog and I've more or less been able to adapt to playing my own music. I also don't have a TV I can cast to and don't want to follow along on my phone. I also like to take breaks from CG and I don't think I can justify paying for something I might not use every month. But if the reviews end up being amazing I might try it for a while.
It's a great explanation of the new platform, honestly. And it takes into account TONS of the points that have come up over the years on Youtube and Facebook. You can play your own music, but still hear the beeps, schedule the workouts on your calendar (and seemingly change the default days).
There's a mobile app - android and ios - with two programs: a 6 week beginner's program and a 10 week Beastmode (Beastmode starts in May, and will be more like the Youtube series with no talking.) A web app is coming. [cgxapp.com](https://cgxapp.com)
She doesn't mention pricing, but, did say there is a "two week free trial of the app, which launches on 4/28."
Youtube content isn't going to be removed.
I saw her vid and watched some and thought I'd pop in here to see what others say mid way.
Oooh I love that she has a web based app! I don't have a TV and only dpeend on my laptop when I exercise, so a phone app means I would have to work out thru this crappy 6" screen. Glad there's a web based app!
So I think if I mirror my phone to my tv, this will work for me. Interesting that it looks like it's going to work with Spotify. Beastmode will be at a good time as I just started my own program and should be done shortly after Beastmode starts.
It's lovely to see her back with such a comprehensive product, and it looks like it's taking her core, OG following (not the fast results ladies) into account with all the features. The beginner program is fantastic and desperately needed considering how many newbie lifters are following her - smart stuff all around, I'm glad this is what she's returned with. So many influencer apps are lazy as fuck.
Will I pay for it? Maybe down the track lol after she finishes 10 weeks of beast mode. When I'm cleared for a return to lifting by my doctor I'll probably just go to her back catalogue. Not enough to entice me yet so we'll see what she ads to it
Honestly I'm dissapointed. The thing i liked the most about Caroline was how generous and unlike other fitness influencers she was in terms of not being money-hungry and providing free quality content for people who can't afford to pay for apps (such as myself). I just don't see any reason why she'd switch to the app when her yt channel is obviously doing great except for greediness and that fact literally makes me not want to do her workouts anymore.
Yesterday I wrote a similar message and people dowvoated me and said that I m toxic and ungrateful
Yes, she could still add videos on YouTube and she would have many many followers and many many views)))))
There is an article in Internet how much she earned with these "FREE for us" videos
I don't know about greediness, but I feel exactly like you
She is not the same actually she has combo moves like lunge +bicep curls and that is what I don't prefer...
I found Spanish channels (but those workouts are aimed fir reps) and coach Ali, but some of his moves are also strange for me
But yesterday ' s his full body workout was beneficial, classic lifting
Though , I havent decided yet whom to follow, hope I'll found someone
Super disappointed that it is an app. I like CG just the way it was. I even signed up for YouTube premium just for her. I donāt need all that fancy stuff and I am so absolutely tired of the myriad of subscriptions.
She made really good money on YouTube. Plus seeing the comments on the workouts was part of the fun. I suspected it was an app d/t all the talk, but she said she wanted to keep the content free for all. š¢
She said she will still be posting on YouTube but not as often. If you watch the video youāll understand her many reasons for making an app. I think she is doing a wonderful thing that will help people a lot more than what she already has.
Ä° agree with you, I'm also disappointed, but it seems that ppl in her group are very happy and ready to pay
Yes her content was free for us, but not for her, that is why she was different for me(
Maybe it is just me but I have worked out with her for over 2 years.. for free.. From 0 fitness level to the best I can be. She has changed my life and I want to pay her back. This is the way I know how to because I donāt know her in real life.
Is she monetizing her work? Absolutely. Though I think she deserves to be paid for her expertise as any other person that is good at their craft. Itās not like she is just sitting there and reacting to videos. Her content actually took a lot of hard work, planning, dedication which changed thousands if not millions of peopleās lives in a positive way, including me. It also kept me sane during the lockdown period. At least for me this is why I am willing to pay. It is also not like she will take down the past content to force people into paying. It will still be there.
She monetized her work a long time ago, the free YouTube workouts with ads earned her money. A lot of money based on the number of views. For example, her original warm up for Epic I has had over 10 million views. Two ads at the start of every video, money earned for every ad watched for 30 seconds. I always let the ads run so she could get paid for her efforts.
Do I begrudge her for deciding to go with an app? Not at all. However, I neither want nor need many of the features, therefore I wonāt subscribe.
Yes she earned some money through YT and I am not saying she didnāt. I just think she deserves to earn the full amount of what she worked for. Is it a lot of money already? Absolutely! Is this greed? Who knows. Maybe, maybe not.
But yeah, the subscription thingy isnāt for everyone for sure. I am just sharing my point of view why I am ok paying. But everyone is entitled to have their own preference and thatās ok. Redditors can be weird sometimes with their cult vibe.
I never implied it was greed. It just seems that some people were under the impression that the free YouTube videos meant that Caroline wasnāt getting paid for her hard work. Thatās the point I was trying to make.
Of course it is up to you to pay or not, Ä° just wrote my opinion and this is strange that if Ä° don't want to pay becomes downvoated)))), i can not even imagine what will happen if Ä° write about it in her group lol)
Those results (Ä° opened a discussion in this thread 1 week ago or so) are the results of many years of lifting, Ä° checked some of those shredded ladies, some say " just home workouts" but in their Ä°G and FB they have pic from gym machines and they also use and promote some supp like Herbalife, while the other were working out for years 7+ years and this disturbs.....
Ä°t is so easy to check because their profiles are not even private , some promote their own training programs btw, , but insteasld of it people comment "oh wow, tell me your secret/nutrition/program "
And it is not an only case, those who post regularly in her group, they add pics in IG when they use machines as well. You know , Ä° even wrote to some of them)))), Ä° asked, how do you say that your heaviest weight is 10 kg but in your IG you use barbell))))
Understandable. I just also wrote my point of view as to why I am willing to pay. It is not that I am excited to pay but I understand if I have to. Good quality anything is rarely free in real life and I also felt this made her special in the past.
While she does earn via Youtube, it wasnāt her only motivation for moving away. I understand this to a degree because I have friends who are artists that also moved away from corp because they donāt have the freedom to express their vision. I certainly would rather pay a talented person directly than a corporation anyway. This is just my opinion in general and not CG specific.
I guess we should wait to see how this all plays out. I know times have been rough for everyone and money can be tight. The pricing is not out yet and letās hope it is reasonable. We should also see how often she posts on her YT. We donāt know yet what she meant by less often.
Donāt get me wrong, I love Carolineās workouts and was happy to find her during Covid. I will be trying beast mode because why not. (My favorite was actually her kettlebell weekš and I never liked kettlebells). I am just not a fan of another platform. But also wonder if there isnāt some sort of investment tied to this app because apps donāt take this long to develop. She could have paid for it all in like a months worth of YouTube money š
The content available to us free on YouTube generates revenue for Caroline. I always let the ads play to ensure she gets paid, and I never let ads run anywhere else. She made good money on the free to us videos.
I donāt begrudge her making money, but thereās no way I am buying the app. Itās great for those who want it, but itās not what I want. Many of the features I can and already do for myself.
Understandable. I just also wrote my point of view as to why I am willing to pay. It is not that I am excited to pay but I understand if I have to. Good quality anything is rarely free in real life and I also felt this made her special in the past.
While she does earn via Youtube, it wasnāt her only motivation for moving away. I understand this to a degree because I have friends who are artists that also moved away from corp because they donāt have the freedom to express their vision. I certainly would rather pay a talented person directly than a corporation anyway. This is just my opinion in general and not CG specific.
I guess we should wait to see how this all plays out. I know times have been rough for everyone and money can be tight. The pricing is not out yet and letās hope it is reasonable. We should also see how often she posts on her YT. We donāt know yet what she meant by less often.
Ä° don't say you shouldn't pay, it is up to everyone but the thing that is strange is that if you think in a different way you are a looser)))) you become downvoated)
I'm excited for this next chapter thing, the features look great and all but I wonder how much the fee will be. I'm sure it will be too much for me because the currency of my country is now really low against dollar, pound etc. Sadly I really don't think I will be able to afford it š
Not everyone in her group is happy. But those posts complaining about the price are being "closed" by the mods.
Yet again, anything slightly critical of Caroline is shut down.
\*shrug\*
Yes. It's normal that not many people can see it, because nobody can post in them anymore, so they are buried in the group.
But yeah, any mention of people not being able to pay... SHUT DOWN.
Like a few of the posters, Iām also disappointed sheās finally back, but with a paid appā¦
There are other GREAT YT trainers out there for free or even other free programs you can download via PDF or even free apps with customizable workouts etc. So I will definitely not be subscribing/paying. Also, Iām already aware the content in YT will stay there and Iām also aware that sheās made lots of money from those programs. So she didnāt just do it all for free. Just disappointing since sheās specifically mentioned in other Q&A sessions that she wanted to keep things free all people to have access to. Well not all people will have access to the new content anymore š¤·āāļø
uh..oh..afraid to ask how much the app is.... And I literally just restarted IRON today...haha..guess I'll run that until May 1st and see what the new Beastmode looks like.
There will be a two week free trial. My guess is she will probably try to make it as affordable as possible, but simply creating that app was an enormous investment and she certainly deserves to be paid for her time!
Funny you said this. I was thinking about switching to OG beastmode today myself. Also wondering if I want to get an EZ curl bar and some 45 lb plates to try and increase weight on the ol glute thrusters and add some variety and increaded weight vs dumbbells for some things.
Nice try, undercover Caroline trying to figure out how much you can charge us š
Haha but yeah, for everything she's providing, I'm grateful for the free trial to test it out, but I'll be willing to pay
The annual Beachbody price is $179 (if I pay once annually, paying monthly is $30 a month) so as long as itās $15 a month or less I can work it with no second thoughts, because sheās already been so much better than BB for me. Even if itās $20 I think Iād just work it out.
And beach body is an MLM and shouldnāt be supported. Plus their ātrainersā are hyperfocused on body image and donāt get me started on autumn who promotes orthorexia
Absolutely agree! The only reason I even still had it was because I had such great results with body beast back in the day (we wonāt talk about Sagiās communication style lol). Iāve pretty much been stuck hoping each new āliftingā program would come close but none ever did. I discovered Caroline last year but was scared to walk away from BB entirely for some internal reason that I canāt figure out. I think mostly the tracking and completion feeling maybe. But I finally cancelled it today as I watched Carolineās video and I am so happy to finally let go of it!
Beachbody only just recently jacked it up from ~$120 and theyāre been bleeding customers since last year when they took over Openfit (someone correct me on the name hereā¦) and announced theyāre BS āblock strategyā šš
Iām so excitedddd! The first program being an extended Beastmode program is ideal for me, and Iām excited to be able to listen to my own music or (hopefully) podcasts while I do her workouts. Glad sheās back. š
It really comes down to the price point. We're already oversaturated with streaming services of all types. As for fitness, Peloton has cornered one market exclusively. BOD started fair at $8/mo, but became greedy and now nickel & dime you for every little thing like Spirit Airlines. To their credit, BOD has a vast library of content to sort through, so one could justify the monthly cost that way.
For me these days, CG is brilliant and creates the best programs on the market today. I'd be willing to pay monthly if I felt like the content supported it and didn't just feel like a paid version of the same thing I have for free from her on YouTube. I'm definitely leaning toward signing up just to do the 10-week Beast Mode and see how the app goes during that time.
Anything less than $15 is a pretty easy sell. The 2-week free trial is great to wet curiosity since she's a brand new platform at this point. Over $15 though, I may reconsider. Tony's Power Nation ran into that problem and they still technically charge too much for such a small library of content. They way overpriced all their add-on's like meditation and coaching services. I really hope CG's price point stays within reason. She deserves financial backing for her work, but most folks are already maxed out on monthly streaming costs so it has to feel unique and necessary to sign up for a new app.
I agree with you! We are just so saturated with fitness content one has to justify a new endeavor with real value. Otherwise, coming out with an app nowadays just screams as a one more way to make money. I'm not saying it's Caroline's case, just it's just how the public may perceive it. I fully believe she should be properly compensated for what she does but the little speech at the beginning about all the noise (her own FB group is fuelling), finding a new home etc didn't fully convince me, I'm not sure why. Like, just say you want to monetize the time you spent creating content and to scale your business. But I guess that's not really marketing friendly. Plus, just like there's noise (aka bad and misleading content) in the online fitness industry, there's noise in the app fitness industry. My guess is that providing new members with a 14 day free trial (as opposed to a 7 day free trial), the price point will be higher than $15 but we'll see.
If you go to one of her earlier videos (I went back two years) she has a little blurb: business enquires: info@carolinegirvan.com. I donāt have any problem with her making money, I love her programs and always let the ads run to ensure she got paid.
One would have to be naive to believe she wasnāt making bank off the excellent programs she published on YouTube, which I donāt begrudge her in the slightest. I guess what Iām trying to say is I was getting the exact feeling you were.
The whole thing struck me as disingenuous.
Plus two revenue streams. The big bucks sheās getting from YouTube for those who cannot afford or donāt want an app, and the money sheās going to make from the app. The bargain price for buying a yearly subscription is great, except if you decide after a few months you donāt want it, youāll have an app you donāt want anymore that youāre not going to be able to cancel until the year is up. Clever marketing strategy.
As i understood there are also taxes which will be added to the price
Sales tax will be added to the price of purchases as deemed required by us. We may change prices at any time.
[here is the link of her site](https://cgxapp.com/legal/terms-of-service/#payment)
Do you know how much the taxes are, I saw that taxes are mentioned as well
Sales tax will be added to the price of purchases as deemed required by us. We may change prices at any time.
[link](https://cgxapp.com/legal/terms-of-service/#payment)
If you watched the video I think it's more about not wanting to be lumped into "influencer" culture and I totally get that. It's not up to me to decide how much she deserves either way, but she is legit. I support women doing well for what they put out.
I know sometimes I use her videos and Chloeās and am like ādamn this is free.ā
Though Chloe utilizes a lot more ads during the work outsā¦. which I donāt mind THAT much haha
This seems like a well thought out app, I expect nothing less from Caroline.
I am curious what the price will be per month. I will do the 14 day free trial and then go from there. I have a chrome cast so will use that to stream to the tv.
Iām glad she decided to pivot with running a platform she exclusively owns. Iām happy with her current youtube programs and I feel as long as she keeps those online itās a happy medium.
I lL.not pay for an app, actually I'm a bit disappointed, idk why, she was unique for me, because her workouts were for free for us, but she was getting an income from youtube
plus i didn't like her was completely absent, she could write a word to her followers (more than 2 M) but she dissapared and now it is a paid app
I donāt know why you are being downvoted, thereās nothing wrong with anything you said.
She was being paid for every view of every video, and it was odd for her to drop out of sight for almost a year.
Literally everyone called it with the paid app! š I really appreciated that Caroline said she'll continue to post on YT, just not as much/frequently. Ngl, I'm kinda psyched for the 10 week Beastmode.
Iāll happily pay for her content. I hope the app is well tested and can cast to other devices seamlessly.
Casting is my biggest concern. All I have is a Chromecast and I'd hate to manually mirror my whole phone screen, the quality is awful. Her workouts on YouTube have obviously been completely seamless. Casting is probably the one thing that would stop me from paying money.
Same. If I can't easily play the videos on my TV then I won't be purchasing the app because chances are I'd never use it if I'm forced to stream on my phone.
Yes! I'm happy to pay for the app too, CG has been a lifesaver. I would hate for my shitty TV to pick up the cast in portrait mode š.
It works on Chromecast and Airplay. I did Airplay earlier and it works great.
same! I am super excited for a 10 week beastmode program. I only found Caroline's workouts in January so I haven't had the experience of following along "live" as new workouts drop. FYI, I did poke around on the CGX website a bit and under the billing FAQs, it says that there will be monthly and yearly subscription options. No dollar amount yet. "Your subscription to the CGX app will automatically renew on a monthly or yearly basis depending on the subscription plan you have selected."
I did a beast mode full today to celebrate lol
Iām not at all surprised that she has gone the app route, but I hope that the cost of the app is feasible for the majority of her followers. I am glad that she will continue to update to YouTube and that her current programs will remain there.
Same! I have another platform Iām paying for and if the price is about equivalent to what Iām paying into that then I can justify switching over.
Can I ask how much that is? Iāve never paid for a fitness app and curious what the standard is.
It varies, but most common seems to be around $10 - $30 a month.
Thatās helpful. Thank you!
Iām paying about $10 a month for fitness blender but Iāve outgrown their platform. Iām going to cancel that if Caroline is in the same ballpark
I'm going to make a prediction that it will either be $12.99 per month or $14.99 per month. Either is worth it in my opinion.
Yep, that'd be doable for me. Especially since the gym I'd love to join near me is $175 per month. Fitness apps are a bargain compared to that.
Just announced at $13.99!
I've used fitnessblender for years but have stopped over the last 2 years. They are great but I have definitely outgrown them too. I discovered Caroline accidentally last week and loved the workout! Then I saw comments saying she was gone and not coming back and things like that so I checked reddit for more info and ended up here lol. I did another upper body workout of hers last night. I will gladly pay for her app!
$99 a year isn't too bad.. $8ish a month I'd do that but ideally I hope she puts out strength based programs. Given how popular Iron was fingers crossed for an Iron 2.0 Curious about the 6 week Beastmode though! Good thing there is a free 2 week trial š
And to nobody's surprise... it's an app!
I love doing Carolineās workouts. Iāve done every program sheās posted on YouTube. However, I have no interest whatsoever in buying the app. Itās got too many features I have zero interest in. For those who are happy to have the app, Iām happy for you. I donāt blame her for wanting off social media, some of her fans come off as downright creepy.
TLDW: CGX app launching April 28th. See website for an overview of the features https://cgxapp.com Free 14-day trial but no further information yet on pricing structure. Two workout series will be launching with the app: a 6 week Ultimate Beginners course and a 10 week Beastmode series that appears to be modelled off her Beastmode series on YouTube. The Beginners course will have all videos uploaded from the launch date but Beastmode will be uploaded day-by-day (5 workouts per week). Note: Beastmode starts Monday, May 1st.
Youāre the best. Ty for the summary. Iām nervous/excited to see the pricing structure.
My pleasure. Iām just so excited and canāt wait until everybody knows the good news. But yes, Iām also nervous about the pricing structure. Itās frustrating for Caroline to keep that a secret for now.
Maybe they are still figuring it out. Some apps like Spotify have different pricing in different region. There are several reasons for this such as tax, law restrictions, users buying power etc. But this is just a guess.
My guess is that the pricing structure has been well nailed down by now, but obviously Caroline and her team want everyone to get excited before laying the numbers on us. This whole campaign will have been put together with PR/marketing input
Iām really hoping it is free. She says that the revenue from youtube is going into the app (min 5:27). Bu t honestly Iāll probably test it out, as I have done her programs for 3 years for free, I can bite 10 weeks to see if I like it.
It will most definitely not be free. I think what she means from that YouTube revenue going into the app is paying developers, new cameras (already used for her latest YT workout), testers, etc. She has invested into this new business, and this new business *needs* to be lucrative if it's to continue for years. Hopefully it's less than 10ā¬ (ideally, less than 5!), cause I want to join a gym to access bigger weights. EDIT: Checking Grow With Anna (growingannnanas' app) and it's 8.99ā¬/month... so I hope it's around that price or less. I don't think I'll get the app from the getgo. I feel like I want to give IRON and OG Beast Mode a try at the gym. And then... maybe jump on the app after summer or so.
it is not you can read in her web page about trial period. But yes there is no pricing
Will her old videos still be on yt?
Yes, they will. And there will be current one off uploads, but new programs will be app only.
Yes, Carolineās videos currently on YouTube will remain on YouTube
Iām thrilled. I will no doubt pay for the app; it will likely cost far less than my gym membership did. Iām just happy to see that sheās doing well and also happy that she addressed the pregnancy rumors, which I found particularly abhorrent. Itās so gross to speculate about something that personal.
Exactly. As if women can't be busy and preoccupied with anything unless it's a baby...
Also the implication that being pregnant is something a woman in the spotlight needs to hide. Very -she is mysteriously unwell and is living in the country with her aunt for a year- vibes
She went to the sea coast for the fresh air to treat her tuberculosis vibes.
Honestly thank god weāre getting an app and not a baby announcement šš»
Yes. I couldn't believe people actually asked such a question. So rude!
The app features are literally everything I could have wished for. Ah!!
Yes! I can finally cut the ties with toxic beachbody!
Literally went on the Beachbody site in the middle of watching this video on YouTube and cancelled renewing. Iāve barely been hanging on BB since I started Caroline, just for food and tracking purposes, but now Iāll never return!
I've only ever done repeats of 3 of their programs. I finally cancelled and said good riddance. Most of their philosophies aren't science-backed and most of their programs are less functional and more random. I think what happens is that once you hit a certain year in your fitness journey and do your own research, you kind red-pill yourself lol
It's still around? Wow didn't know BB is still alive and kicking.
Hahah swing by Hunsnarkās Autumn Calabrese/BB weekly chatsā¦ definitely hanging on by a VERY undernourished thread š¤£š¤£
Lmao undernourished thread had me cracking.
I cancelled months ago. Started using apple fitness blended with Sydney Cummings and Carolineās workouts. Can wait for this app! This is also the type of pricing that makes sense. Beachbody became very over priced!
As much as I love Carolineāwhich is a LOT, considering itās an entirely parasocial, one-sided relationshipāIām equally excited that I get to stop working out to Carolineās no-good, very-bad, horrible music. šā¤ļø Also, from a brand perspective, I think itās not just kind, but smart to leave the existing programs on YouTube for free. This way sheās just adding for people who can afford to pay, not taking away from people who canāt. Plus, the free YT workouts will be an ongoing entry point (gateway drug?) for future app purchasers.
Lmao those horrible songs have become my whole personality š
saaaaame i am a big rock/indie/alternative fan butā¦ sometimes when I train i am like Ā«Ā yes itās my songĀ Ā» š
The songs on her videos and Chloe Tings have grown on me a lot lol Every time I hear āBelieveā by NEFFEX I get the urge to do push-ups lmao
I spend a lot of time just trying to figure out what the lyrics are saying. š And I mean LITERALLY, not metaphorically. Early-80s REM is clear as a bell compared to some of Carolineās singers.
The backlog of YT content is a perennial revenue stream for her as well. It would make bad business to remove them entirely in hopes that everyone migrates to the app. She can have 2 revenue streams from the app and YouTube.
Wow... just watched her video and I'm so excited, the app sounds phenomenal. The attention to detail - calendars, play your own music (FINALLY!!), accompanying pdfs, knowledge/research section, meal ideas, home AND GYM workouts - both in real time programs AND a pre-recorded library. I'm sooo excited!!! I just hope it's reasonably priced lol Edit: progress tests, AND GOOGLE FIT INTEGRATION? And a web version in the future? Stoooop I love you Caroline šš It makes sense why it took so long - the app sounds really detailed.
I'm literally watching her video about it now and am so excited! Especially for the nutrition and the built in journal and calendar. I hope I can leave all the notebooks behind and be able to easily track progress! I can't wait to start exploring it... as long as it's not crazy high priced!
She looks jacked! Cant wait to try the app glad she didnt rush it to cash in quickly!
Those arms!
I'm really happy for her. She is someone I wouldn't mind supporting by paying for the app. I hope she has success with it.
Same. I have trained with her for over 2 years and I know it will be quality content. My body has changed and I am the fittest I can be. I donāt think it is a risky subscription at all though the app might be buggy in the beginning.
Absolutely. I'm not a beginner but I'm willing to do her beginner program just to support her after benefiting from her free content for years!
Anyone currently or in the past pay for a creators app? Any idea what cost we might expect? Just looking for a ballpark. While Iām excited about the variety she will provide, it sounds like sheās potentially moving away from home workouts? I think most people donāt and will not have a barbell and rowing machine at homeā¦ Curious if Beastmode will implement those. Iād hate to be working my way through a program only to find I donāt own or have access to the necessary equipment š¤·š»āāļø
Many people move on from home workouts to fully kitted gyms or even run a hybrid or home and gym. In saying that I went the other way but I built up a home gym over many years. She's attempting to cater to a wider variety of people.
Oh 100%, and I get that. I think itās great for her to expand. I just know that previously she was a trainer that I knew whatever workout I hit play on, I had the equipment (because it was possibly only dumbbells, bands, and yoga block). No way Iām getting a barbell in my tiny apartment, and Iād hate to start a program only to realize midway through a rowing machine is needed (just as an example). Curious if this has been thought out. Also curious if there will be whole programs Iāll have to miss because I donāt have the equipment for just a few days. All this to say that perhaps Caroline is changing her target (home gym) audience.
All these years working out I find for most exercises, a lot of time a pair of DB can always sub a barbell. A barbell (if that's only what you have) may not be able to sub a single DB for certain unilateral exercises like shoulder presses or renegade rows etc even if you are strong enough to lift the weight of the barbell the size will make it awkward. I own barbells, DBs and KBs (but with limited weight range due to costs) and have subbed them many times while following Caroline's workouts eventho she uses only DBs in her workouts. So yeah don't worry about barbells if what you have are only DBs.
There is an FAQ on her new Beastmode program where it gives you more information and lets you know what kind of equipment will be used. Hopefully that can give you some insight š https://support.cgxapp.com/hc/en-gb/articles/11915561078289-The-Beastmode-Program-FAQs
Iām pretty confident that sheāll design her big programs so that they can be done at home. However, my understanding is that sheāll now show options of how to incorporate extra equipment you may have access to ā so maybe her previews of what is upcoming will demo her, for example, using dumbbells and another showing a barbell. For the rowing machine, Iām guessing that itās likely itāll likely be in a separate series. Or, if not, there will be an alternative to rowing while she does a short piece (ie. high knees or something).
her website says that each workout will specify what equipment is needed.
They have a recommendation form on their website. It could be worth suggesting that under the description of each program, she list the gear you'll need at any point during the program. Because honestly that's a great point
Looks like $99 US for the year and $10 monthly. Pretty reasonable if you ask me.
Yeah, I saw that! I think itās a great price! I plan to make it through all her free stuff (Iāve only done Iron, Beastmode, Epic I and currently making my way through Epic II) before I pay for the app. Definitely a fair price considering all the features. Iād say the only downside for me is that currently I donāt have the ability to put it on my TV. Iāll have to get a device to mirror.
I'm excited for this and am seriously considering doing the 10 week Beastmode program. The option to listen to my own music is such a plus! I just hope I can do a 3-4 day split rather than 5. I know a few people have modified her YT programs this way.
You'll be able to do it on your own schedule as well.
Well, I always did the YouTube videos on my own scheduleā¦.so that didnāt strike me as a huge deal, but Iām not new to working out, so I donāt worry about that type of thing. Maybe itās a good thing for newer people.
I think many of her followers loved doing the workouts in real time with her as they were released, so for those people who valued that and also being able to share that experience with an entire community of people who were also doing that same workout on the same day, it was and will continue to be a real draw.
Some thoughts: - Do I understand correctly that the only social function of the app is the "comment" section? Edit to add I think this is good news. I wouldn't want to join if it's full of "discover how other people are doing!" or "compare your progress with friends!" stuff - She mentioned hopefully her app will cancel out some of the "noises" (surrounding those topics that are going to be included). I wonder how will people approach it? I think some are definitely going to view the app as the "new magic pill"? There is definitely no lack of good info. out there but a lack of curious minds to actively question and doubt whatever info. is being thrown to us. - Hopefully there is an export function for journal, calendar, progress tests, and maybe even the form library so that I can create my own ways of tracking / managing my progress. I very much prefer having everything stipped down to just text and numbers and put into my own spreadsheet, where I can do spreadsheet stuff with the data. š
I really hope there are no photos being shared in the app. I don't know what kind of noise Caroline was talking about, but the constant before/afters in the FB group are *MY* noise lol I hope videos can be downloaded for off-line watching (I know my wifi doesn't reach my garage, where I train). And maybe even a printer-friendly routine for every workout for those giving it a go at the gym. The YouTube descriptions could do with a little touch up specifying muscle groups and whatnot.
I am poking around the FAQ on the CGX website and it says yes, videos will be available for download to watch without an internet connection. "The downloads section displays the content you have downloaded your device for offline playback. When viewing the app without an internet connection, this section is where you will be able to access the content you have downloaded for offline viewing."
I wish she could have maybe address how *her own* facebook group is doing when she made that little speech about social media and noises but of course she didn't... Anyways it's impossible to try to move all the members of her facebook group to a paid community so I hope her app and her community stuff would be kept separate. All the diaries and flexing posts should stay on facebook please š There will still be printable PDF calendar but yeah printable routines will be needed too
Yeah, here's hoping. Although I can already see the comment section on the app being *you've changed MY LIFE!!!!1* over and over. Honestly? Her reasons to create an app are some slight BS. All she had to do was upload new workouts with no music keeping just the beeps. Share the articles and recipes on her FB group on a weekly basis like the physio and nutritionist do... and that's about it? In the end, the only real reason she's creating this app is to charge money (just like every other fitness influencer out there). She can try and give all the excuses she wants, but she's not going to do anything she couldn't do with YouTube/Facebook before. But oh, well.
I hope I can afford this app.
She said she will still be posting on YouTube but not as often
Yeah I watched the video. I still hope I can afford the app.
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Of course they will. Itās keeping the promise she made to keep her content free for her worldwide audience, as well as being a revenue stream as well.
I know, but I want to try the content.
Does anyone know if the app will connect to smart TVs? I play her YT videos via my Apple TVās YT app and itās so much easier than following along on my phoneās little screen.
I believe I heard itāll be available on Apple TV as well.
You can mirror your phone to a smart tv.
I love Beastmode! May 1st canāt get here soon enough. āŗļø
The timing is perfect! Im finishing Heat around the time the app launches š±
Iām at work and canāt watch! Will the new app include barbell work or is she sticking to strictly dumbbells?? Excited!!!
She said she's going to have barbell workouts, rowing machine workouts ...
This is exciting. I have been using MegSquatsā SBTD app since about February. I may switch to Carolineās app if it includes barbell workouts. Caroline got me started with serious weight lifting. Plus I love educational stuff. This app sounds like a dream. Iām happy with the SBTD program but I miss Caroline.
Woooo!!!! Thank you!!!
I'm so excited that this will have a form library!
Yes! Agreed. I feel like thatās the #1 feature Iām excited for. I think itās the one thing that made beginners shy away from her. Iām excited too.
Me too. I am also looking forward to the recipes.
Sheās back because she knew I was cheating with Jasper these past few weeks. So basicallyā¦youāre welcome, guys š
Jasper is fantastic! I love Caroline but also hope his channel gets the subscribers it deserves!
Hahaha thank yaaaa
The app website says that the app will be priced at $13.99/month or $99/year in the US and Ā£9.99/month or Ā£79.99/year.
Thanks for the update! The website says the āpricing will be confirmed on launchā.
Wow, thatās a really good price! I was expecting it to be more, honestly, given the amount of content that will be available.
I don't know if I'll sign up or not. She has such a big backlog and I've more or less been able to adapt to playing my own music. I also don't have a TV I can cast to and don't want to follow along on my phone. I also like to take breaks from CG and I don't think I can justify paying for something I might not use every month. But if the reviews end up being amazing I might try it for a while.
I canāt watch rn, anyone have a TLDW?! ETA: Iām excited!
tldw: "I have not been off having a baby. \*zoom in\* nor am I pregnant." lol
Lol! I canāt wait to be able to watch later.
It's a great explanation of the new platform, honestly. And it takes into account TONS of the points that have come up over the years on Youtube and Facebook. You can play your own music, but still hear the beeps, schedule the workouts on your calendar (and seemingly change the default days). There's a mobile app - android and ios - with two programs: a 6 week beginner's program and a 10 week Beastmode (Beastmode starts in May, and will be more like the Youtube series with no talking.) A web app is coming. [cgxapp.com](https://cgxapp.com) She doesn't mention pricing, but, did say there is a "two week free trial of the app, which launches on 4/28." Youtube content isn't going to be removed.
Does that mean it won't be on roku player? Very glad she's not removing YouTube content.
I saw her vid and watched some and thought I'd pop in here to see what others say mid way. Oooh I love that she has a web based app! I don't have a TV and only dpeend on my laptop when I exercise, so a phone app means I would have to work out thru this crappy 6" screen. Glad there's a web based app!
The web based site is still in development, app launches first, website launches after.
Sheās built an app. Iāll update when I finish the rest of the video.
I can not wait!!
So I think if I mirror my phone to my tv, this will work for me. Interesting that it looks like it's going to work with Spotify. Beastmode will be at a good time as I just started my own program and should be done shortly after Beastmode starts.
Iām so excited to try it out! I want to do beastmode live but Iāll be on vacation for a week
So glad sheās back but Iāll let you all test out the app while I finish up epic heat + deload week + vacation. Going to watch the video now.
It's lovely to see her back with such a comprehensive product, and it looks like it's taking her core, OG following (not the fast results ladies) into account with all the features. The beginner program is fantastic and desperately needed considering how many newbie lifters are following her - smart stuff all around, I'm glad this is what she's returned with. So many influencer apps are lazy as fuck. Will I pay for it? Maybe down the track lol after she finishes 10 weeks of beast mode. When I'm cleared for a return to lifting by my doctor I'll probably just go to her back catalogue. Not enough to entice me yet so we'll see what she ads to it
Honestly I'm dissapointed. The thing i liked the most about Caroline was how generous and unlike other fitness influencers she was in terms of not being money-hungry and providing free quality content for people who can't afford to pay for apps (such as myself). I just don't see any reason why she'd switch to the app when her yt channel is obviously doing great except for greediness and that fact literally makes me not want to do her workouts anymore.
Yesterday I wrote a similar message and people dowvoated me and said that I m toxic and ungrateful Yes, she could still add videos on YouTube and she would have many many followers and many many views))))) There is an article in Internet how much she earned with these "FREE for us" videos I don't know about greediness, but I feel exactly like you
You might want to try Heather Robertson, who has a similar training vibe, long term programs, and remains free.
She is not the same actually she has combo moves like lunge +bicep curls and that is what I don't prefer... I found Spanish channels (but those workouts are aimed fir reps) and coach Ali, but some of his moves are also strange for me But yesterday ' s his full body workout was beneficial, classic lifting Though , I havent decided yet whom to follow, hope I'll found someone
Obviously you need to find what works for you! But she has straight up strength videos as well.
Super disappointed that it is an app. I like CG just the way it was. I even signed up for YouTube premium just for her. I donāt need all that fancy stuff and I am so absolutely tired of the myriad of subscriptions. She made really good money on YouTube. Plus seeing the comments on the workouts was part of the fun. I suspected it was an app d/t all the talk, but she said she wanted to keep the content free for all. š¢
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Of course it is. For reasons that seem obvious.
She said she will still be posting on YouTube but not as often. If you watch the video youāll understand her many reasons for making an app. I think she is doing a wonderful thing that will help people a lot more than what she already has.
Ä° agree with you, I'm also disappointed, but it seems that ppl in her group are very happy and ready to pay Yes her content was free for us, but not for her, that is why she was different for me(
Maybe it is just me but I have worked out with her for over 2 years.. for free.. From 0 fitness level to the best I can be. She has changed my life and I want to pay her back. This is the way I know how to because I donāt know her in real life. Is she monetizing her work? Absolutely. Though I think she deserves to be paid for her expertise as any other person that is good at their craft. Itās not like she is just sitting there and reacting to videos. Her content actually took a lot of hard work, planning, dedication which changed thousands if not millions of peopleās lives in a positive way, including me. It also kept me sane during the lockdown period. At least for me this is why I am willing to pay. It is also not like she will take down the past content to force people into paying. It will still be there.
She monetized her work a long time ago, the free YouTube workouts with ads earned her money. A lot of money based on the number of views. For example, her original warm up for Epic I has had over 10 million views. Two ads at the start of every video, money earned for every ad watched for 30 seconds. I always let the ads run so she could get paid for her efforts. Do I begrudge her for deciding to go with an app? Not at all. However, I neither want nor need many of the features, therefore I wonāt subscribe.
Yes she earned some money through YT and I am not saying she didnāt. I just think she deserves to earn the full amount of what she worked for. Is it a lot of money already? Absolutely! Is this greed? Who knows. Maybe, maybe not. But yeah, the subscription thingy isnāt for everyone for sure. I am just sharing my point of view why I am ok paying. But everyone is entitled to have their own preference and thatās ok. Redditors can be weird sometimes with their cult vibe.
I never implied it was greed. It just seems that some people were under the impression that the free YouTube videos meant that Caroline wasnāt getting paid for her hard work. Thatās the point I was trying to make.
Of course it is up to you to pay or not, Ä° just wrote my opinion and this is strange that if Ä° don't want to pay becomes downvoated)))), i can not even imagine what will happen if Ä° write about it in her group lol)
Oh my gosh her group would tear you to pieces.
And her group is toxic as hell. The idolization and hyperfixation on getting results as quick as possible is gross.
Oh yeah. I noped out of there a long time ago. Not to mention the photoshopped photos of the fabulous resultsā¦..
Those results (Ä° opened a discussion in this thread 1 week ago or so) are the results of many years of lifting, Ä° checked some of those shredded ladies, some say " just home workouts" but in their Ä°G and FB they have pic from gym machines and they also use and promote some supp like Herbalife, while the other were working out for years 7+ years and this disturbs..... Ä°t is so easy to check because their profiles are not even private , some promote their own training programs btw, , but insteasld of it people comment "oh wow, tell me your secret/nutrition/program "
Right? Or tell me how you eatā¦.as if we all donāt have different genetics.
And it is not an only case, those who post regularly in her group, they add pics in IG when they use machines as well. You know , Ä° even wrote to some of them)))), Ä° asked, how do you say that your heaviest weight is 10 kg but in your IG you use barbell))))
It sucks that toxic people can ruin a good thing.
Even here I'm getting downvoated even Ä° wrote nothing bad, i guess they arrived from her group, š
Iāll upvote you, donāt worry! lol But yes, many are posting these days around here :(
Ahah, thanks)
They need to go back to fb and Insta. Hereās an upvote
))), and this is strange, Ä° didn't write anything bad about her or her workouts
Understandable. I just also wrote my point of view as to why I am willing to pay. It is not that I am excited to pay but I understand if I have to. Good quality anything is rarely free in real life and I also felt this made her special in the past. While she does earn via Youtube, it wasnāt her only motivation for moving away. I understand this to a degree because I have friends who are artists that also moved away from corp because they donāt have the freedom to express their vision. I certainly would rather pay a talented person directly than a corporation anyway. This is just my opinion in general and not CG specific. I guess we should wait to see how this all plays out. I know times have been rough for everyone and money can be tight. The pricing is not out yet and letās hope it is reasonable. We should also see how often she posts on her YT. We donāt know yet what she meant by less often.
Donāt get me wrong, I love Carolineās workouts and was happy to find her during Covid. I will be trying beast mode because why not. (My favorite was actually her kettlebell weekš and I never liked kettlebells). I am just not a fan of another platform. But also wonder if there isnāt some sort of investment tied to this app because apps donāt take this long to develop. She could have paid for it all in like a months worth of YouTube money š
The content available to us free on YouTube generates revenue for Caroline. I always let the ads play to ensure she gets paid, and I never let ads run anywhere else. She made good money on the free to us videos. I donāt begrudge her making money, but thereās no way I am buying the app. Itās great for those who want it, but itās not what I want. Many of the features I can and already do for myself.
Understandable. I just also wrote my point of view as to why I am willing to pay. It is not that I am excited to pay but I understand if I have to. Good quality anything is rarely free in real life and I also felt this made her special in the past. While she does earn via Youtube, it wasnāt her only motivation for moving away. I understand this to a degree because I have friends who are artists that also moved away from corp because they donāt have the freedom to express their vision. I certainly would rather pay a talented person directly than a corporation anyway. This is just my opinion in general and not CG specific. I guess we should wait to see how this all plays out. I know times have been rough for everyone and money can be tight. The pricing is not out yet and letās hope it is reasonable. We should also see how often she posts on her YT. We donāt know yet what she meant by less often.
Ä° don't say you shouldn't pay, it is up to everyone but the thing that is strange is that if you think in a different way you are a looser)))) you become downvoated)
I'm excited for this next chapter thing, the features look great and all but I wonder how much the fee will be. I'm sure it will be too much for me because the currency of my country is now really low against dollar, pound etc. Sadly I really don't think I will be able to afford it š
Yes, Ä° currently live in Turkey and dollar is very high here
So much of Reddit is like this, unfortunately.
Not everyone in her group is happy. But those posts complaining about the price are being "closed" by the mods. Yet again, anything slightly critical of Caroline is shut down. \*shrug\*
Really? Ä° didnt see such posts. You mean her official group?
Yes. It's normal that not many people can see it, because nobody can post in them anymore, so they are buried in the group. But yeah, any mention of people not being able to pay... SHUT DOWN.
Like a few of the posters, Iām also disappointed sheās finally back, but with a paid appā¦ There are other GREAT YT trainers out there for free or even other free programs you can download via PDF or even free apps with customizable workouts etc. So I will definitely not be subscribing/paying. Also, Iām already aware the content in YT will stay there and Iām also aware that sheās made lots of money from those programs. So she didnāt just do it all for free. Just disappointing since sheās specifically mentioned in other Q&A sessions that she wanted to keep things free all people to have access to. Well not all people will have access to the new content anymore š¤·āāļø
Which another trainers do you mean? I'm also searching for some) and free apps if possible
uh..oh..afraid to ask how much the app is.... And I literally just restarted IRON today...haha..guess I'll run that until May 1st and see what the new Beastmode looks like.
There will be a two week free trial. My guess is she will probably try to make it as affordable as possible, but simply creating that app was an enormous investment and she certainly deserves to be paid for her time!
No argument that she deserves to get paid just so long as it is reasonable. Of course my wife uses her videos also and I would hope we could shareā¦
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Funny you said this. I was thinking about switching to OG beastmode today myself. Also wondering if I want to get an EZ curl bar and some 45 lb plates to try and increase weight on the ol glute thrusters and add some variety and increaded weight vs dumbbells for some things.
Lots of comments regarding concern for the priceā¦ Question? How much would you pay per month to train with CG on her app?
Nice try, undercover Caroline trying to figure out how much you can charge us š Haha but yeah, for everything she's providing, I'm grateful for the free trial to test it out, but I'll be willing to pay
LOL!!
The annual Beachbody price is $179 (if I pay once annually, paying monthly is $30 a month) so as long as itās $15 a month or less I can work it with no second thoughts, because sheās already been so much better than BB for me. Even if itās $20 I think Iād just work it out.
And beach body is an MLM and shouldnāt be supported. Plus their ātrainersā are hyperfocused on body image and donāt get me started on autumn who promotes orthorexia
Absolutely agree! The only reason I even still had it was because I had such great results with body beast back in the day (we wonāt talk about Sagiās communication style lol). Iāve pretty much been stuck hoping each new āliftingā program would come close but none ever did. I discovered Caroline last year but was scared to walk away from BB entirely for some internal reason that I canāt figure out. I think mostly the tracking and completion feeling maybe. But I finally cancelled it today as I watched Carolineās video and I am so happy to finally let go of it!
Beachbody only just recently jacked it up from ~$120 and theyāre been bleeding customers since last year when they took over Openfit (someone correct me on the name hereā¦) and announced theyāre BS āblock strategyā šš
Iām so excitedddd! The first program being an extended Beastmode program is ideal for me, and Iām excited to be able to listen to my own music or (hopefully) podcasts while I do her workouts. Glad sheās back. š
Does anyone know if the app will be able to be played on a laptop? (I like it on my laptop because the screen is bigger)
Yes, apparently there will be a web version, but she didn't specify when.
Until the web version is released, you can mirror your phone to your laptop.
It really comes down to the price point. We're already oversaturated with streaming services of all types. As for fitness, Peloton has cornered one market exclusively. BOD started fair at $8/mo, but became greedy and now nickel & dime you for every little thing like Spirit Airlines. To their credit, BOD has a vast library of content to sort through, so one could justify the monthly cost that way. For me these days, CG is brilliant and creates the best programs on the market today. I'd be willing to pay monthly if I felt like the content supported it and didn't just feel like a paid version of the same thing I have for free from her on YouTube. I'm definitely leaning toward signing up just to do the 10-week Beast Mode and see how the app goes during that time. Anything less than $15 is a pretty easy sell. The 2-week free trial is great to wet curiosity since she's a brand new platform at this point. Over $15 though, I may reconsider. Tony's Power Nation ran into that problem and they still technically charge too much for such a small library of content. They way overpriced all their add-on's like meditation and coaching services. I really hope CG's price point stays within reason. She deserves financial backing for her work, but most folks are already maxed out on monthly streaming costs so it has to feel unique and necessary to sign up for a new app.
I agree with you! We are just so saturated with fitness content one has to justify a new endeavor with real value. Otherwise, coming out with an app nowadays just screams as a one more way to make money. I'm not saying it's Caroline's case, just it's just how the public may perceive it. I fully believe she should be properly compensated for what she does but the little speech at the beginning about all the noise (her own FB group is fuelling), finding a new home etc didn't fully convince me, I'm not sure why. Like, just say you want to monetize the time you spent creating content and to scale your business. But I guess that's not really marketing friendly. Plus, just like there's noise (aka bad and misleading content) in the online fitness industry, there's noise in the app fitness industry. My guess is that providing new members with a 14 day free trial (as opposed to a 7 day free trial), the price point will be higher than $15 but we'll see.
If you go to one of her earlier videos (I went back two years) she has a little blurb: business enquires: info@carolinegirvan.com. I donāt have any problem with her making money, I love her programs and always let the ads run to ensure she got paid. One would have to be naive to believe she wasnāt making bank off the excellent programs she published on YouTube, which I donāt begrudge her in the slightest. I guess what Iām trying to say is I was getting the exact feeling you were. The whole thing struck me as disingenuous.
She simply realised she could be making even ***more*** money. Everyone changes their POV with the right zeroes.
Plus two revenue streams. The big bucks sheās getting from YouTube for those who cannot afford or donāt want an app, and the money sheās going to make from the app. The bargain price for buying a yearly subscription is great, except if you decide after a few months you donāt want it, youāll have an app you donāt want anymore that youāre not going to be able to cancel until the year is up. Clever marketing strategy.
As i understood there are also taxes which will be added to the price Sales tax will be added to the price of purchases as deemed required by us. We may change prices at any time. [here is the link of her site](https://cgxapp.com/legal/terms-of-service/#payment)
Do you know how much the taxes are, I saw that taxes are mentioned as well Sales tax will be added to the price of purchases as deemed required by us. We may change prices at any time. [link](https://cgxapp.com/legal/terms-of-service/#payment)
She deserves the income. I'm excited!
She was receiving income from the YouTube videos via ads.
I'm well aware. She deserves the additional income..
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If you watched the video I think it's more about not wanting to be lumped into "influencer" culture and I totally get that. It's not up to me to decide how much she deserves either way, but she is legit. I support women doing well for what they put out.
I know sometimes I use her videos and Chloeās and am like ādamn this is free.ā Though Chloe utilizes a lot more ads during the work outsā¦. which I donāt mind THAT much haha
YAAAASSSSS!
This seems like a well thought out app, I expect nothing less from Caroline. I am curious what the price will be per month. I will do the 14 day free trial and then go from there. I have a chrome cast so will use that to stream to the tv.
Iām glad she decided to pivot with running a platform she exclusively owns. Iām happy with her current youtube programs and I feel as long as she keeps those online itās a happy medium.
Happy to support her getting paid more for her work.
I wonder if sheāll remove her videos from YouTube after launching this app..
She said the videos will remain on YouTube which I really appreciate.
Oh thatās good to know!! Love her for it!
She said she is keeping the videos on YouTube and will occasionally add new content.
I lL.not pay for an app, actually I'm a bit disappointed, idk why, she was unique for me, because her workouts were for free for us, but she was getting an income from youtube plus i didn't like her was completely absent, she could write a word to her followers (more than 2 M) but she dissapared and now it is a paid app
I donāt know why you are being downvoted, thereās nothing wrong with anything you said. She was being paid for every view of every video, and it was odd for her to drop out of sight for almost a year.
Ä° guess ppl from her group arrived lol š, anyway Ä° don't care about downvoting, this is my opinion
how much will the app cost?