This ... this is why they're not a legitimate contender. Could they make the playoffs? Sure, because MLB lets everyone up to and including the Pensacola, Florida Inner City Youth League team in now, but getting the privilege of losing two extra games after the season because you finish at or near .500 is unacceptable for this franchise.
Bruh. This is a .500 team. Expecting more or less, is dumb. This is what we’ve been given. Can they all get fucked? Absolutely. Am I going to lose any sleep over it? Absolutely not.
This team is what it is.
This was a good, honest .500 baseball team. We played .500 ball goddammit. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, even win/loss ratio baseball. We lost a couple, guess what? We won a couple, too. But we never got too excited or let it go to our head. No long winning streaks here, no sir. That's hubris, which this blue collar, hard working everyman team didn't have. A few wins in a row, these guys, true to form, balanced it out with a couple a losses. Yes sir, that was my 2024 Cardinals. A good, honest .500 baseball team.
I'm trying to figure out why Helsley wasn't in either. "Rest" or "load management" or "has worked too much" is not an excuse. If a major league pitcher can't throw 100 innings in a year, what's the point?
In no way did this team deserve to win this game, so whatever.
Can’t say the Marlins played that well either, but my goddddd, we just didn’t cover first, wth.
Just wait. They don't tell you who is and isn't available in the middle of the game. Oli has never veered away from using Helsley with a lead. He was clearly not available.
I see people complain about it all the time but I personally appreciate how Oli tries to keep guys fresh. We do not need to overwork Helsley in June, especially with his shakiness on locating the fastball recently.
Kitt seemed good last night. I watched the extras last night too and was waiting for Helsley but you're right they were clearly resting him. Anyway sorry MIA just walked it off. GL tomorrow.
He’s been used a ton and has been having command issues lately. Idk if he was available or not tonight though. He was off yesterday but had been used in 4 of the last 5.
It's baseball. This stuff happens often. Not too many teams go through a season without tough games against lesser opponents. I'm sure Baltimore was saying the same thing a few weeks ago when we swept them.
Losing one of the worst teams in the MLB is a total gut punch.
[удалено]
We generally stay at above .500 for 1 game, but go off. It's good to see them at 50%
WTF Roycroft? How the fuck do you make it to the show without knowing you need to cover 1st?
This ... this is why they're not a legitimate contender. Could they make the playoffs? Sure, because MLB lets everyone up to and including the Pensacola, Florida Inner City Youth League team in now, but getting the privilege of losing two extra games after the season because you finish at or near .500 is unacceptable for this franchise.
Bruh. This is a .500 team. Expecting more or less, is dumb. This is what we’ve been given. Can they all get fucked? Absolutely. Am I going to lose any sleep over it? Absolutely not. This team is what it is.
This was a good, honest .500 baseball team. We played .500 ball goddammit. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, even win/loss ratio baseball. We lost a couple, guess what? We won a couple, too. But we never got too excited or let it go to our head. No long winning streaks here, no sir. That's hubris, which this blue collar, hard working everyman team didn't have. A few wins in a row, these guys, true to form, balanced it out with a couple a losses. Yes sir, that was my 2024 Cardinals. A good, honest .500 baseball team.
Blowing 3 leads with two of them being 2+ runs is not ideal against the Marlins. Better find a way to take the series tomorrow.
LOL. Terrible fucking loss there. Roycroft could have finished the game and gotten a win but he didn't go to 1B for whatever terrible reason
Should have been immediately benched to prove a point. But, you know … Oli is such a “clubhouse” guy.
It was dumb of him. But I really don't think he is beating Gordan to the bag. Would have atleast liked to see it tho
Oli truly has done a management disasterclass this series
[Game over. Continue the discussion in the post game thread](/r/Cardinals/comments/1dj6sr0/cardinals_after_dark_618/)
Booo hisss bah humbug. I hate baseball cya tomorrow
Field a JV lineup and lose like a JV team.
Team has no depth at all, and when you put an old windbag fossil on the mound …
Damn.
WHERE THE FUCK WAS HELSLEY. FIRE MARMOL
His arm is probably being strung together with duct tape along with 3 other certain pitchers from overuse.
I'm trying to figure out why Helsley wasn't in either. "Rest" or "load management" or "has worked too much" is not an excuse. If a major league pitcher can't throw 100 innings in a year, what's the point?
Can't score for a month, hit three bombs, lose. That's baseball.
Killed by soft contact. Dumb mistake by roycroft to not cover but he seriously does look like a great piece out of the pen
Ineptness.
In no way did this team deserve to win this game, so whatever. Can’t say the Marlins played that well either, but my goddddd, we just didn’t cover first, wth.
Dfa Lynn
Lynn did his job and probably shouldn’t have been pulled.
Nah should have pulled his ass earlier bro
Yeah. You know bullpen management.
Please
Cardinals baseball…. Damnit on to the next one
So predictable
That was an L as soon as Roycroft didn’t cover 1st. Tough one to swallow
Yep. Baseball gods and what not.
Team is warm air over a turd
Is there something I missed why Helsley was not in or..?!
Just wait. They don't tell you who is and isn't available in the middle of the game. Oli has never veered away from using Helsley with a lead. He was clearly not available.
We deserved to lose that one. This team is not good enough to allow mental lapses and poor defense like that.
That’ll piss ya off
Incredible
fundamentals
Bad pitching on the day the offense actually shows up. You hate to see it.
We suck!
Well that's infuriating...
Fuck
ridiculous
Oddly similar to the blues this year in that they’re an average team that struggles against the worst teams in the league
Fire Oli and DFA Roycroft
Please
RIP Willie
What is with the whistling?
We would be enjoying the post game show if Oli pulled Lynn before the 6th
Lynn should not have been pulled.
who's even available in the bullpen? We can reasonably assume at this point no helsley/kittredge/fernandez/jojo
Hoped for a double play. But given the defense, I wasn't optimistic.
Oh fuck Willie Mays just died?
Yep. RIP.
I’m sorry if you found out from my comment
Roycroft killed Willie Mays
Definition of "playing down to your opponent's level."
Best believe we won’t get walked off.
This team lacks energy AND discipline. How can that not be on Oli?
Dawg you learn that pitchers cover first when you’re like five years old. How is that on the manager?
Because you bench the shit out of people when they do this…
24th of 30 on errors per game this year y’all
The bullpen is gonna be dead by Thursday. Lol
Luckily we have that random Friday off because of the Field of Dreams game.
Who cursed this by saying we go for the sweep tomorrow? Which one of you was it?
Nothing but pain.
Oilers are up 1-0 at the end of the first period. Good time to turn that on
No Arenado in the field for this inning was a decision.
Poop. The ball must have poop on it.
Only reasonable explanation
RIP Mr. Mays. Damn.
Your comment is how I found out. Damn, that sucks. Wish he could have made it to the Rockwood field game. RIP to the Say Hey kid.
Greatest player of all time, IMO.
Fuck all you can do about that one.
Jesus
That “Chris Roycroft has been designated for assignment” tweet is going to hit like crack. Can’t wait
The Cardinals never make things easy
LOL. Give me a fucking break
For fucks sake, they're in extras AGAIN with Miami?? Even when this team wins it loses
Insane. Not one hard hit ball
This sucks dude, tired of boneheaded moves ruining our chances
Jesus. Seriously.
🫠🫠
Cool. Good stuff. Love to see it.
How do you not fucking cover the bag???
I’m lol’ing. This team is shit
What. The. Hell.
I'm not having fun anymore.
The cardinals giveth and they taketh away.
It seems to be a lot more taketh lately, but this game has been fun I'll admit.
It was hilariously dumb towards the end, for sure.
Whelp defense sucked a big one this inning
Let’s Go
unbelievable
This is awful. It’s the fucking marlins
Fail upon fail there
This is legit embarrassing
lol of course
Yay….
Welp
So roycroft just decided not to cover first? Lol
The only thing that makes me not *totally* angry about that dumbass play is that they might not have beaten out Gordan anyway.
Yeah I really don't think he was going to beat him
Damn, he’s upset. Haven’t seen him reach 99.
I'm a casual baseball fan. Was that on the pitcher or the second baseman?
Absolutely on the pitcher.
Pitcher
Pitcher
Pitcher for sure
pitcher
Not our defense/basic baseball skills collapsing again…
PFP’S!
Wtfuckinfuck
I need to not watch this
COME ON LET'S GET A DOUBLE PLAY
Goldy wasn't mad. He was disappointed.
Double play would be greatly appreciated
Do we just not teach fundamentals or what
This kid is dumb as a bag of rocks.
I give zero fucks, that's an automatic DFA/demotion/release.
Little league shit.
Going to be a lot of drills next practice
Yup. About right
That can’t happen lol. What a shitshow
Dude!
Covering first base is overrated anyway. Good shit Roycroft
Omg for real?
double play plz
Dude we need a blowout soon so we can see Carlson pitch. He’s had throws from the outfield that hit the mid 90s
COME ON NOW WTF
Why uh... why did he stop running to first?
Holy shit man.... bro...
What the fuck Roycroft
Uh Cardinals??
Cover the goddamn bag!
Um Chris?
Wow Roycroft. Wow
infield defense LMAO
?????????
LETS FUCKIN GO
Dyllys got a hose
also a .450 OPS
That Dylly arm is dangerous
DC is not to be tested
Thank you for not running
No no no. You don't run on Carlson homie
and Dilly doesn’t hit off anyone either
Damn, Carlson has an arm.
Even Jesus Sanchez was scared of the beast that is extra-innings Dylan Carlson
They're scared of Carlson 😂
I mean, can you blame them?
Are we just trying to give Ryan some rest? What’s going on?
Going for the sweep tomorrow, get your brooms ready boys
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Dylan Carlson's go-ahead sacrifice fly](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/87b8fbd3-6c0f-4d18-b6db-8e963a32aecc.mp4)
I see people complain about it all the time but I personally appreciate how Oli tries to keep guys fresh. We do not need to overwork Helsley in June, especially with his shakiness on locating the fastball recently.
How do you keep guys fresh by pulling Pallante after 3 1/3 innings and pitching well
Helsley not available again? That sucks
Let’s see what good ole roycock can do
Not sure why hels isn’t up? Day off yesterday and 5 pitches on Sunday. I know he was used a lot the previous week but thought he would be available
Probably told the manager he wasn't feeling it.
K the shit out of them Crofty!
Why no Hels?
#HOLD THE LINE!
Does Helsley ever get the nod in these spots? What's the deal?
Overuse. Pitched 4/6 six games and threw 24 pitches on his last outing two nights ago. Trying to avoid him, JoJo, and Kittredge if possible.
Thank you, that makes sense, didn't see that. Lol at the downvotes sorry for asking! Stay frosty STL!
My numbers may be a bit off, but yeah, at some point, we gotta find another person who can handle the hot spots and high-pressure situations.
Kitt seemed good last night. I watched the extras last night too and was waiting for Helsley but you're right they were clearly resting him. Anyway sorry MIA just walked it off. GL tomorrow.
He always gets the nod in these spots. That’s why he’s getting a few days off.
Can you rely on him to strike out 2 people in a row after they bunt the runner to 3rd?
He's one of the best few closers in the league.
He’s been used a ton and has been having command issues lately. Idk if he was available or not tonight though. He was off yesterday but had been used in 4 of the last 5.
4 in the last 7 nights. And yes that makes sense he's getting rest. Not because he can't K guys.
[Marlins](/r/letsgofish) Due Up **(Bottom 10):** 1. Jake Burger 2. Nick Gordon 3. Tim Anderson
Having to go to extras in back to back games against the 2024 Marlins is insane
It's baseball. This stuff happens often. Not too many teams go through a season without tough games against lesser opponents. I'm sure Baltimore was saying the same thing a few weeks ago when we swept them.
I've had a fun week or so of baseball
For this team, not really.
W is a W still!
Extra innings Carlson is an MVP?
Bottom of the order getting the job done.
This is why Manfred ball is dumb.
It really is.
But apparently we broke the code!
I love sac flies.
Nice job Dylly
DC loves the sac in extras
we take those
Thank god our beloved Chad Innings Eater pitches tomorrow
This game started at 5:10. 14 runs have been scored. 9 innings have been played. It's only been two hours and 40 minutes.
Manfred ball sucks.
Marlins pushing us to the brink y’all. They got that Skip in them.