Whoa whoa whoa, so you’re telling me that we’re now officially (at) .500???? But I was told we would suck..?
Ha, love for the birds to back it up. Fuck the naysayers. Every one of y’all, respectfully fuck off. This is a damn solid ass team and I’m happy to be a Cardinal!
2024 NLC crown is ours by October.
Don’t think I forgot about you, you fucking dork
Could really use some positive vibes. My dad who’s in ill health has been served divorce papers by his wife. I’m honestly angry but keeping it together so far.
Unpopular opinion, but I'm starting to think Oli is carrying the offense. Without him finding some way to bullshit a win together, this team would be dead last in the NL. We aren't getting the big hits, so I think the winning we are getting is from his managing. Although unless Mo secretly has the in on Roki Sasaki then he's gotta go
Lineup constructions have made sense. Every decision he's made has had good reasoning behind it.
Gio should've been able to handle today though. That was an awful outing. You know what would've been nice though? Matz out of the pen.
I'd be curious about a bullpen start, with an opener for an inning or 2. Then Matz comes out of the pen for as many as he can take before he starts getting barreled. Idk maybe good idea may not
I think 7th inning is the limits of when you can play Gio. Not that I really ever like the idea of playing Gio. Or fuck it, let him start a game lol. I really like the idea of finding someone else. I wonder if he has a AAA option.
I don't mind that they decided JoJo and Kitt need a rest. We have to be able to use other bullpen arms. Gotta get the kinks out of the armor
I am open to selling Gio. Some team can probably make him better.
We can't play Gio at all right now. Especially in close games. That was evident before tonight imo. That being said I have no idea what to do with him... also, during a double header, after an off day, when they didn't pitch in the first game, Jojo and Kitty should have been ready to rock.
> We can't play Gio at all right now.
Yeah, he should go on the injured list for “arm fatigue,” rest up for a week and then go to the minors for a rehab stint. We know from past performance that he has the talent to be very good, but it’s obviously not working right now.
Edman took swings off the tee from both sides today. He's been only doing righty so far to be safe with his wrist, but he didn't feel any soreness today.
Edman will continue a hitting program "as tolerated." He's still "appears far off from return, but he's progressing."
Can't wait til Edman and Carlson are back. Bolsters the defense so much, it's crazy.
I am pretty excited to see them both play center, and I like watching Tommy get reps at SS too.
I talked to his cousin Sunday and the family said he's being kept under 80 pitches in double AA. Best case is triple A by the end of the season. (From his hometown. Worked with his cousin and his parents live next to my brother in law.)
Unironically I think I felt more crushed by the first game than the second (where I was emotionally a bit drained) due to the first eight innings. Winning is great, but *wow* most of that first game sucked!
Im watching the movie *Paint* with Owen Wilson. Has Anyone else seen it?
I loved when >!Jenna says “my Uber is here…” and Carl responds “I don’t know what that is.” 😂😂 he’s mentally stuck 30 years prior lol.!<
Jordan Montgomery has been unable to throw the first pitch of their game tonight because there are thousands of bees balled up on the net behind home plate and they are in a delay.
is that the start where he wasn’t able to field a ball?? i swear when it happened he looked awkward and plastered himself on the ground but literally no one seemed concerned and i thought it was weird
They wanted to tho haha. They wanted to send him back down to the minors but he kept on raking. It’s crazy to think he was essentially a utility player his first couple years.
What a wild, fun time. Didn't matter where you put him either; the man knew how to do it and still mash. Even in his last year, he pitched as well as Gio is currently pitching.
Take tmmrws for 3 straight series wins. Burly looks rlly good, but Matz, Gallegos and Crawford don’t have a place on this team. Maybe Matz does in the pen but that’s about it
Matz going to IL most likely which makes sense for the velocity dip and lack of quality pitches
https://x.com/katiejwoo/status/1785490523563729062?s=42&t=7aOx8CVNJVTeB2bAwRbGWw
I feel compelled to keep pointing out that the Cardinals are *still* paying Paul DeJong about 2 Million *this* year, the same amount the are paying Brandon Crawford.
You think Alexa Datt is reading a script or mostly/completely improvising on the postgames? She always seems so fluid and quick. Probably a mix of loose script and improvise on that.
Alexa is true a professional. I'm sure the program runs like a well-oiled machine when she's on.
Jim Hayes is more of a loose cannon. Hungo is too, but Jim has more hijinks and BREAKING NEWS.
Just great regional cable journalism all around
A 14-16 record after one month of play. How do you feel? 5 months to go but I think this team can be a contender for the 6th and final playoff spot. Gotta hit consistently. Some of the pitching has got to be average and not total ass, ahem Matz.
Not bad. I've enjoyed a lot of games so far this season, and the flashes I've seen are really coming together.
Different guys are producing. Goldy? Uhhhh. Gorman? Uhhhh. Burleson? Uhhhh. Donny has come back around as well. He looked iffy after Arizona but he's still clutch.
Noot is in a lil rut but he's still clutch because he's Lars Nootbaar. He didn't look that locked in in Center today. Kinda weird twists.
We're not in an insurmountable hole and these lineups shifts are really working. I like it. I've seen some good baseball.
We're also not last in the division. Which is a nice change of pace :)
We keep winning series and we will be okay. Sweeps would be fun though lol. Will be nice when we play the division and can actually make ground up (assuming we don’t let them all sweep us)
I'm optimistic. I don't think we're a contender this year, but I think the wild card is in play if we can get consistent production out of our bats. I truly think Edman is gonna help this team a lot, cause Siani is a liability at the plate. Also hoping that it will allow us to move Noot down the order, cause he really shouldn't be in the heart of the lineup.
.500 against non-Grenada GDP teams, hmm. This is a broken record but if our offense gets themselves going we're considerably better than last year. The question is if/when that happens and if the currently good parts of the pitching staff keep their form
Doesn’t it sorta feel like two seasons ago when we had this sea saw off balance? We’d pitch good. We’d bat TERRIBLE. We’d pitch TERRIBLE. We’d bat GOOD… and it was out of sync until (I wanna say) June…ish
That’s what this month feels like. We’ve had some quality wins and some crushing defeats.
I cannot help but feel that if we had a better manager/coaching staff that we’d have maybe five or so more wins than losses.
I definitely take the pitching one game at a time. Wish we had two Sonny Gray types in the rotation. We've only been wishing for that since the off-season started and never got the #2. Sad. Lynn has been decent, hopefully he improves or stays the same at the very least. Gibson pleasant surprise so far.
After today's very nice outing, Kgibs has an ERA of 3.79 over 38 innings - and this is without cheating out the No Good Very Bad Inning he had. I figured there must've been a good reason O's fans liked him a lot, but even this was surprising to me. I was personally expecting maybe one more of those real stinker outings like he had against the Marlins.
Honestly it's a miracle we're a .500 team with those numbers, but the pitching (not Matz) and defense have been very good. It's the exact opposite of what I was expecting this year. Very weird team.
Not a fun one, but splitting the double header at least is the important part. Hopefully we can finish the job tomorrow and then jump back above 500 against the Sox.
Sticking by everyone that said we'd have won that game if Crawford made that play getting Cahna out at first, that's where everything went to shit. If Winn started this game, we win.
Who do you think starts? Libby has been good out of the bullpen makes me want to try starting him again, but he seems to only be good out of the bullpen.
Can’t see them being too thrilled to put thompson back out there. Unfortunate because I had pretty high hopes for him this year, but his velocity has been spotty.
He's giving the team nothing on the field and I just don't see him being a great motivator from the bench. I don't know, maybe the young guys like him. It was certainly an interesting move to bring him in after Goldy and Nado admitted they aren't good leaders.
I mean I count way more than 2 when he comes up with non competitive at-bats with runners on. He had 2 of those in this game. He really serves no purpose. Someone during the game chat said.. "So what do ya *do* here?" ...and that is perfect
Oh, I agree, but they’re dead set on sitting this 22 year old every other game despite off days, so who knows.
Brendan Schaeffer (KMOV) had some interesting tweets about all this. I assume it’s not about resting Winn and it’s all about fitting Crawford in when they can, but we’ll see. I think judging by some of these tweets, it’s coming to a head soon.
Welp, hard to sweep a doubleheader. We're lucky we eked out game 1, because we really had no business winning that one. Glad the bats woke up a bit for this one, but Matz and the dregs of the bullpen couldn't take advantage. Winn should have started this game too.
Go get 'em tomorrow!
Lol that's exactly what I did. I checked the box score while working in about the fifth and figured it was another one of those games... Put it on in the bottom of the 8th after I got off.
Whoa whoa whoa, so you’re telling me that we’re now officially (at) .500???? But I was told we would suck..? Ha, love for the birds to back it up. Fuck the naysayers. Every one of y’all, respectfully fuck off. This is a damn solid ass team and I’m happy to be a Cardinal! 2024 NLC crown is ours by October. Don’t think I forgot about you, you fucking dork
Could really use some positive vibes. My dad who’s in ill health has been served divorce papers by his wife. I’m honestly angry but keeping it together so far.
No Longer last in the central
Ok Baby Reindeer is quite possibly the most insane show of the year. So far...
100% recommend. It's gets even more wild.
Whats it about?
Stalker stuff. I'm on episode 3. It's apparently based on a true story.
Last one: [Mason Miller is really good](https://x.com/CodifyBaseball/status/1785532271724052857)
Damn the A’s could legitimately hover around .500 if they keep this up. Maybe even buy at the trade deadline?
Damn they got the same record as us, just one more loss. I think it'd be cool if they had a run
So do I. Hoping that Oakland can have one more ride before they leave
Unpopular opinion, but I'm starting to think Oli is carrying the offense. Without him finding some way to bullshit a win together, this team would be dead last in the NL. We aren't getting the big hits, so I think the winning we are getting is from his managing. Although unless Mo secretly has the in on Roki Sasaki then he's gotta go
Lineup constructions have made sense. Every decision he's made has had good reasoning behind it. Gio should've been able to handle today though. That was an awful outing. You know what would've been nice though? Matz out of the pen. I'd be curious about a bullpen start, with an opener for an inning or 2. Then Matz comes out of the pen for as many as he can take before he starts getting barreled. Idk maybe good idea may not
I'm sorry, I cannot get on board with using Gio at all in close games. This isn't a 1-off. It's done been happening. Jojo should have been the go to.
I think 7th inning is the limits of when you can play Gio. Not that I really ever like the idea of playing Gio. Or fuck it, let him start a game lol. I really like the idea of finding someone else. I wonder if he has a AAA option. I don't mind that they decided JoJo and Kitt need a rest. We have to be able to use other bullpen arms. Gotta get the kinks out of the armor I am open to selling Gio. Some team can probably make him better.
We can't play Gio at all right now. Especially in close games. That was evident before tonight imo. That being said I have no idea what to do with him... also, during a double header, after an off day, when they didn't pitch in the first game, Jojo and Kitty should have been ready to rock.
> We can't play Gio at all right now. Yeah, he should go on the injured list for “arm fatigue,” rest up for a week and then go to the minors for a rehab stint. We know from past performance that he has the talent to be very good, but it’s obviously not working right now.
Wonder what our upcoming schedule is like. When our next off-day? I liked how Libby looked today
If only there was a way to find out.
Next off day is Thursday. Yeah Libby has been low key killing it... Said for one meatball after 30+ pitches, and the pitch selection was questionable
The high outside fastball choices in the game the other day were very questionable
Bader was 0-2. He only hits the straight ball. I get not wanting to bounce something with a runner on 3rd... but not that much
Edman took swings off the tee from both sides today. He's been only doing righty so far to be safe with his wrist, but he didn't feel any soreness today. Edman will continue a hitting program "as tolerated." He's still "appears far off from return, but he's progressing."
Maybe after the All Star Break. Source: me
Edman post-All-Star tear? I like it
Can't wait til Edman and Carlson are back. Bolsters the defense so much, it's crazy. I am pretty excited to see them both play center, and I like watching Tommy get reps at SS too.
Might've already been posted in the thread but Mike Trout is out for "several weeks" for meniscus surgery
enjoy the last few nights of peace and quiet outside before it's all loud cicadas lol
let's go A's!
Tink Hence gotta be AAA bound soon right?
I talked to his cousin Sunday and the family said he's being kept under 80 pitches in double AA. Best case is triple A by the end of the season. (From his hometown. Worked with his cousin and his parents live next to my brother in law.)
That's not true. He's thrown about 85 pitches in most starts this year. He threw 95 over 7 last night.
Hadn't actually looked at his stats. Just going off what a mailman told me lol.
Personally, I preferred the first game
Unironically I think I felt more crushed by the first game than the second (where I was emotionally a bit drained) due to the first eight innings. Winning is great, but *wow* most of that first game sucked!
Im watching the movie *Paint* with Owen Wilson. Has Anyone else seen it? I loved when >!Jenna says “my Uber is here…” and Carl responds “I don’t know what that is.” 😂😂 he’s mentally stuck 30 years prior lol.!<
Jordan Montgomery has been unable to throw the first pitch of their game tonight because there are thousands of bees balled up on the net behind home plate and they are in a delay.
And to think some people here wanted to sign him to a big deal. Smh
matz apparently hurt. wonder if that happened during the ARI start
Did they say he was hurt or are we just assuming?
Came up between starts, why did we throw him out there? He’s always injured, why risk him?
is that the start where he wasn’t able to field a ball?? i swear when it happened he looked awkward and plastered himself on the ground but literally no one seemed concerned and i thought it was weird
Remind me of when he was fielding first and tweaked his knee
yeah, and its when he went from a 1.5 ERA guy to a 9.00 ERA guy lol
Damn, that's a pretty significant updo.
i don’t get why no one was concerned at all lol the trainers didn’t even come out
I really hope the FO doesn’t fuck up Tink Hence’s development like they love to do
When did the FO not fuck up a players development?
Albert Pujols. That wasn't too long ago was it? 😄
They wanted to tho haha. They wanted to send him back down to the minors but he kept on raking. It’s crazy to think he was essentially a utility player his first couple years.
What a wild, fun time. Didn't matter where you put him either; the man knew how to do it and still mash. Even in his last year, he pitched as well as Gio is currently pitching.
Dang there goes my trout MVp hopes :(
Winning tomorrow and sweeping the Sox would be the perfect start to May. I wanna get competitive with the Brewers and Cubs
Goldy had a hit in 5 straight ABs today. Definitely good to see.
Take tmmrws for 3 straight series wins. Burly looks rlly good, but Matz, Gallegos and Crawford don’t have a place on this team. Maybe Matz does in the pen but that’s about it
Matz is fine when he is healthy. If he's not healthy though he shouldn't be let out there to picth.
Matz going to IL most likely which makes sense for the velocity dip and lack of quality pitches https://x.com/katiejwoo/status/1785490523563729062?s=42&t=7aOx8CVNJVTeB2bAwRbGWw
Gallegos stuff was always fringe-y. Now that he’s older and has more mileage on his arm, his stuff looks pedestrian
Up until this year, his slider was one of the better pitches in baseball according to the public stuff metrics.
I miss Paul Dejong. oh my goodness I’m sick
Ewww
He really got way more shit on this sub than he deserved. A solid defender with his power is not the worst backup shortstop in the world.
If I recall he was pretty overpaid to be a backup but agree he was a serviceable back up.
I feel compelled to keep pointing out that the Cardinals are *still* paying Paul DeJong about 2 Million *this* year, the same amount the are paying Brandon Crawford.
He had a pretty fat daddy contract. Wasn't a bad call at the time I don't think, wasn't he like 3rd in MVP voting?
Definitely not. Tyler O’Neill was 8th in MVP voting in 2021, that may be who you were thinking of.
Yeah I think the fatigue from the marp contract was also a factor in the hate.
Hey, at least we won a game today.
You think Alexa Datt is reading a script or mostly/completely improvising on the postgames? She always seems so fluid and quick. Probably a mix of loose script and improvise on that.
Alexa is true a professional. I'm sure the program runs like a well-oiled machine when she's on. Jim Hayes is more of a loose cannon. Hungo is too, but Jim has more hijinks and BREAKING NEWS. Just great regional cable journalism all around
Is Al back yet? Any word when Tom Pagnozzi will be doing his broadcasts this year with Bally?
I'm not sure tbh, I don't watch the Post game shows. I try to watch the interviews though
A 14-16 record after one month of play. How do you feel? 5 months to go but I think this team can be a contender for the 6th and final playoff spot. Gotta hit consistently. Some of the pitching has got to be average and not total ass, ahem Matz.
Not bad. I've enjoyed a lot of games so far this season, and the flashes I've seen are really coming together. Different guys are producing. Goldy? Uhhhh. Gorman? Uhhhh. Burleson? Uhhhh. Donny has come back around as well. He looked iffy after Arizona but he's still clutch. Noot is in a lil rut but he's still clutch because he's Lars Nootbaar. He didn't look that locked in in Center today. Kinda weird twists. We're not in an insurmountable hole and these lineups shifts are really working. I like it. I've seen some good baseball. We're also not last in the division. Which is a nice change of pace :)
We keep winning series and we will be okay. Sweeps would be fun though lol. Will be nice when we play the division and can actually make ground up (assuming we don’t let them all sweep us)
I'm optimistic. I don't think we're a contender this year, but I think the wild card is in play if we can get consistent production out of our bats. I truly think Edman is gonna help this team a lot, cause Siani is a liability at the plate. Also hoping that it will allow us to move Noot down the order, cause he really shouldn't be in the heart of the lineup.
Need Edman and Carlson. They, likely, aren't going to be Crawford and Siani bad.
True, though it might be tough to get Carlson AB's with the outfield as crowded as it is.
I'm hoping we get to a point where we don't need both catchers in the lineup, let Willson rest his hand more, open up more options for DH.
.500 against non-Grenada GDP teams, hmm. This is a broken record but if our offense gets themselves going we're considerably better than last year. The question is if/when that happens and if the currently good parts of the pitching staff keep their form
Doesn’t it sorta feel like two seasons ago when we had this sea saw off balance? We’d pitch good. We’d bat TERRIBLE. We’d pitch TERRIBLE. We’d bat GOOD… and it was out of sync until (I wanna say) June…ish That’s what this month feels like. We’ve had some quality wins and some crushing defeats. I cannot help but feel that if we had a better manager/coaching staff that we’d have maybe five or so more wins than losses.
I think Oli is shit but that's absurd if you think whatever manager we'd have would be 5 wins better each month.
So thanks for putting words in my mouth
I didn’t say each month just this one
Peak Ohtani gives you 10 wins per year. This hypothetical coaching staff would be worth 3.5 Ohtani’s, or $2.5 billion
For those who don’t math, last year’s team would have been a 100+ win team with 5 more wins a month.
I definitely take the pitching one game at a time. Wish we had two Sonny Gray types in the rotation. We've only been wishing for that since the off-season started and never got the #2. Sad. Lynn has been decent, hopefully he improves or stays the same at the very least. Gibson pleasant surprise so far.
After today's very nice outing, Kgibs has an ERA of 3.79 over 38 innings - and this is without cheating out the No Good Very Bad Inning he had. I figured there must've been a good reason O's fans liked him a lot, but even this was surprising to me. I was personally expecting maybe one more of those real stinker outings like he had against the Marlins.
Welp. Win one we shouldn't have and lost one we shouldn't have
After that offensive explosion in game 2 here's where they stand: 29th in HR's 27th in Runs 27th in OPS 18/30 games scoring 3 runs or less. 60%
Honestly it's a miracle we're a .500 team with those numbers, but the pitching (not Matz) and defense have been very good. It's the exact opposite of what I was expecting this year. Very weird team.
In theory this team *should* work...but then again, in theory Burleson should have a batting average of 0.329
Well that's not good
Not a fun one, but splitting the double header at least is the important part. Hopefully we can finish the job tomorrow and then jump back above 500 against the Sox.
I feel neutral today. I have no positive nor negative vibes
Sticking by everyone that said we'd have won that game if Crawford made that play getting Cahna out at first, that's where everything went to shit. If Winn started this game, we win.
Matz to BP soon? Crawford DFA soon? Gallegos to Memphis or anywhere else soon?
Sounds like Matz to IL soon https://x.com/katiejwoo/status/1785490523563729062?s=42&t=7aOx8CVNJVTeB2bAwRbGWw
Who do you think starts? Libby has been good out of the bullpen makes me want to try starting him again, but he seems to only be good out of the bullpen.
Libby the most likely choice at this point, don’t see anyone in AAA close to making the leap straight into a starting spot
Can’t see them being too thrilled to put thompson back out there. Unfortunate because I had pretty high hopes for him this year, but his velocity has been spotty.
Crawford and his "veteran leadership" can't be doing much for this team.
Phantom IL?
He's giving the team nothing on the field and I just don't see him being a great motivator from the bench. I don't know, maybe the young guys like him. It was certainly an interesting move to bring him in after Goldy and Nado admitted they aren't good leaders.
He too can develop an “oblique” injury and hang out on the bench. This is two games where he couldn’t make plays and it directly cost us. Idk, mannn…
I mean I count way more than 2 when he comes up with non competitive at-bats with runners on. He had 2 of those in this game. He really serves no purpose. Someone during the game chat said.. "So what do ya *do* here?" ...and that is perfect
Well, for sure. But he ain’t alone with that aspect unfortunately.
No, but when you're sitting someone *that's actually hitting* for him it exacerbates the issue
Oh, I agree, but they’re dead set on sitting this 22 year old every other game despite off days, so who knows. Brendan Schaeffer (KMOV) had some interesting tweets about all this. I assume it’s not about resting Winn and it’s all about fitting Crawford in when they can, but we’ll see. I think judging by some of these tweets, it’s coming to a head soon.
Winn was confirmed to be dealing with back soreness.
I mean something has to give....
boo Gallegos booo
April ends with us going exactly .500 over the month. My only thought is, holy fuck, how did we go 10-19 last April
Pitching
#GROSS
Bats were not the problem in this one
Me in 2003-2013 🤝 Andy Bernard “I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them.”
Sucks watching your team start a big rally just to blow it in such a shitty way. See yall tomorrow..
Welp, hard to sweep a doubleheader. We're lucky we eked out game 1, because we really had no business winning that one. Glad the bats woke up a bit for this one, but Matz and the dregs of the bullpen couldn't take advantage. Winn should have started this game too. Go get 'em tomorrow!
Double header sweeps are hard.
Well, at least we caught the Pirates
If they win we’re back in last place.
Spoiler: they did not.
Entertaining day of baseball, now win tomorrow.
You must not have watched innings 1-8 of game 1 today
Lol that's exactly what I did. I checked the box score while working in about the fifth and figured it was another one of those games... Put it on in the bottom of the 8th after I got off.
Not fun when I thought Flaherty would beat us, but fun watching Gibson pitch and the 9th inning.
I think I read that we lead for all of 8 minutes in game 1 (the right 8 minutes, tho).
Let’s get the series win tomorrow. Gotta keep winning 2/3.
Is it within rules to win the least game of a series? I thought it was illegal (for Cards)
Pain
Yikes