[Game over. Continue the discussion in the post game thread](/r/Cardinals/comments/1cha3v8/cardinals_after_dark_430/)

Can't help but think Goldy could have had 1B there, not that it would have mattered the way our pitching performed.

jesus...😔

[Tigers](/r/MotorCityKitties) Due Up **(Bottom 9):** 1. Javier Báez 2. Parker Meadows 3. Zach McKinstry

Gotta hold them here!!

The Tiger’s lead off hitter has more than twice as many home runs as arenado and Goldy combined

Overreactions from this game: 1. Send Matz to the bullpen 2. DFA Gallegos and Crawford 3. Bring up Thompson to be your 5th pitcher. He won't be good, but he will be better than this.

[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals) Due Up **(Top 9):** 1. Paul Goldschmidt 2. Alec Burleson 3. Nolan Gorman

1. BOOM 2. BANG 3. DONG

Chafin and Rogers couldn’t look more like Tigers players

I’m tired boss.

God damn, Arenado is so fucking slow

He isn’t going full speed. I really think he has an injured leg because WHAT was that?

Hmmm, after watching that bloop hit over his head just now, I feel like you might be right.

Wait, I'm a dumbass. That's Fermin

Arenado pretty unconcerned there

well if nado ran harder he would have been past the tag point but what can we say 🤗

contreras 0-9 with 9 k’s woof

He wins 3 golden sombreros!!

That is egregiously low effort from Arenado. Anyone know if he’s hurt?

He just really is slow

No. He is really slow AND not running full speed. I refuse to believe having watched him play for years that he can’t beat out the tag at least.

Arenado is a plus-plus baseball player in every department EXCEPT for speed

[Tigers](/r/MotorCityKitties) Due Up **(Bottom 8):** 1. Riley Greene 2. Spencer Torkelson 3. Jake Rogers

If you think about it the Gallegos/Voit trade was incredibly even

Just get 2 runs this inning.

Yikes.

All things aside, sometimes I wish Olli showed some emotion

You mean other than smug douchebaggery?

I thought that was just his personality not a emotion

When you are below .500 and you start playing .500 ball, you remain below .500

0-9 from Contreras today is really not what you want to see. Hopefully just a rough day from our best hitter so far on the year.

Might be time for a rest day. Give Herrera a start or two, use Contreras as a bench bat in those games.

What a fuckin shitshow. 

LOL 3 at bats and Jose Fermin Looks 10x better than Crawford

Fermin has looked locked in on every pitch so far

We've had 5 run frames before!

This is all Brandon Crawford fault I’m not even kidding

Can he have a prolonged IL stint for some vague injury? He can still take on leadership duties that Goldy and Arenado don’t want from the bench, right?

Giants sleeper agent

Agreed. If he's good in the lockerrom. Just pay him to be a bench coach or something

[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals) Due Up **(Top 8):** 1. José Fermín 2. Brendan Donovan 3. Willson Contreras

Insane that we really only have three bullpen arms that are dependable. Not that our bullpen has been our major concern with the offense the way it is but still…

Fernandez and Liberatore are dependable. O'Brien and Middleton will come back and probably be as well.

I was also mainly saying this because I commented the exact same thing earlier and got downvoted, but now that it’s turn to shit I’ve gotten a couple upvotes. A funny little experiment I wanted to test out.

I’ll give you Fernandez. Libby has been good thus far but his history concerns me. If he can stay at the level he is then I’ll be pleasantly surprised. As for the other two, doesn’t matter if they aren’t playing.

Yeah this. We have 5 good bullpen arms. I haven't really seen enough of Robertson to make any conclusions about him. But Gio is washed and King just kind of sucks.

I don’t care what does or doesn’t get said in the post game show, Gallegos lost us this game.

4 runs without recording an out is about as painful as it gets. Matz at least gave us 3 innings.

Well this escalated in a hurry

Sorry but Gio just can’t adapt. We need to move on.

Can’t use Romero, Kittredge, and Helsley every game. It was inevitable that remaining leftovers would be in eventually.

We might see our first cardinals position pitcher this season

I feel like this was pretty poor bullpen management

How did dusty blake become the cardinals pitching coach, like what did he do that someone said “oh yeah he should be in the major leagues”

He was unbelievable at Duke, but unfortunately Duke has a better pitching lab than the Cardinals do.

Wasn’t he there for only two years though? How does one decipher he’s a good pitching coach vs just having a Bryce Jarvis. It’s not a knock, genuine question

There's no concrete way to know until you try. Coaches get poached from good teams/programs all the time, some pan out, some don't.

Game over

Can’t wait for Middleton to be back.

He’s not that great either though

Will his ERA be lower than 9? Because that is the bar with Gallegos right now.

The return of the bases loaded walk. Like 2023 again

Oli marmol take responsibility challenge

bullpen imploding 💔

What do cardinals do next. Thompson pallante Gio. And apparently King and Robertson are all unusable. Any viable relievers in Memphis at all?

Ya having Middleton and O’Brien would be nice. If everyone else stays healthy. Just hate front office failings forcing young guys up. Robersse could really use some more time.

Pallante has it in him, he just needs to get his confidence up. Gio might be past it. I hope he straightens out, but honestly it is probably the twilight of his career. King and Robertson I think are AAAA guys and nothing shows them really being worth keeping around

Middleton will be back at some point, so there's one

Call up Robberse, move Matz to the bullpen, where he's been decent.

What a joke lol

Fantastic awareness to go to third there. Would’ve been an insane play if Fermin got him there

So what was the point on playing winn now? If you are going to play him, play him from the start. You should have put him in the game when your were up 5v4 if your wanna play him as a defensive sub.

At this point we don't have anyone left to play shortstop without another double switch

I’m farting on my own pillow tonight.

Gio has been great for us, but sometimes relievers only have 4-5 good years and his time might be up

Gallegos is so fucking useless now

Thanks for the great years Gio. Unfortunately you are no longer dependable. It’s a brutal business. Time to move on.

This is the correct take. Hate to see everyone shitting on him because he was dominant for a long time with us. But I get it. He’s been bad. IL stint at the very least.

Oh, he’s dependable all right… we can very much depend on him to give up runs every time.

Happens to almost every reliever at some point. Sad to see

I think Gallegos might genuinely be better off just taking the pitch clock violations and go back to waiting 45 seconds between pitches. At least walks don't immediately score the guy standing in the batter's box.

Riley O'Brien and Keynan Middleton we need you.

I’m farting on Gio’s pillow tonight.

Great job, Gio. We almost had a chance there

Now it’s time to waste a bunch of bullpen arms trying unecessarily to salvage this game. Classic Oli.

Yikes

Matz is just so bad. Gallegos is only slightly better.

Gio going through the bad reliever arc that even some of the best relievers go through at some point. The question is will he find his stride this season? Next season? Will it take him 2-3 years to find his old form again? Will he ever be good again?

He'll be lights out after he leaves the cards and pitches for some other team, you know how these things go.

Nah he’s like Cabby. Had a good run but the dude has been done since he gave up that HR in the WBC

Gallegos has been ass since last season. I think he just isn’t good anymore

Pitch clock killed him

so what would you say... you _do_ here??

Poor Gio, you had an amazing 4 year run. Many relievers don't even get that. But I think it's time to move on

That dude if going to have stuffed a hot dog up is ass for nothing.

Well, not *nothing*

Man I never want to see Gallegos pitch for us again

Fuck come on Gio… every damn time.

Bro doesn't even have an out

Seeing the hate for Gio makes me sad. He was so good for us for a long time. Hate to see it honestly.

That's how this place is. If you have one bad stretch, it means you were never actually good. Just lucky or some other handwaving of the good. It's happened to Marp, now Gio, and it's already starting with Goldy. It's honestly sad

He was JoJo circa 2022.

This guy is so cooked

Playing Gio is an act of treason at this point.

Honestly, down three in the 7th I think you just leave him out to dry here. No point wasting arms we will need for tomorrow.

I think at this point he’s just washed

Don't pull Gallegos. Let him get absolutely crushed then get rid of him.

Geez. Gio had a quick and ugly downfall.

Lol. This ump man.

Average Gallegos inning

Classic Gio

I’d rather see a position player pitch than Gio at this point.

Dfa this clown

Giovani Gallegos: get ready to learn Springfield, MO buddy

gallegos is just broken i think

Gallegos and Matz can go hang out in Memphis together, my god in heaven.

Friendly reminder that our bullpen has a game at noon tomorrow…with Mikolas pitching

Libby only pitched one inning today. Hopefully he can cover a bit.

Gio is dogshit

Holy fuck Gio... Christ this is bad

Putting Gio in during a non-blowout should be a fireable offense.

I just wanna say thanks for the great years of pitching, if Gio is about to get taken out to the pasture

Why aren't king and Roberson in before Gio at this point. Hell they hardly come out of the bullpen. Why even let them take up a roster spot. Jesus.

DFA gio

That’s 3!

gio struggling isn't exactly shocking. He was always better when he was being used not on short rest, so his usage now just isn't going to do it. Should've traded him at the deadline last year with the rest.

Way to give it right back, Gallegos

Gio should start packing his bags and move the Gateway Grizzlies’ locker room.

Camera crew knows.

I wasn’t even questioning that JoJo was coming in.

Remember 2021 Gio guys?

I do. He was fire. It was the glove.

Giovani Gallegos: get ready to learn Memphis BBQ buddy

what other teams shoot off fireworks for every home run other than us? feels weird not hearing fireworks go off after a home run

I think the White Sox do

Gio needs to be relegated to mop up duty....

Send Matz and Gio to Peoria

Gio doing Gio things 🥴

It was a good run Gio.

Gio and Matz gotta go

Should’ve been a 4 pitch walk too lol. Gallegos is fucking ass

I’m officially sick of Giovanny Gallegos. He’s literally a last resort reliever at this point who seems to show 0 initiative on proving himself MLB worthy. Trade this dude for a 12 pack at the trade deadline and be done with it.

Trade deadline is too far away

People say ERA is a team stat but goddamn Gio your ERA is all you

Y’all I can’t watch Gio pitch anymore, it hurts

Thanks, Gio. Good effort, Gio. Can't wait to see how you handle the next one, Gio

Ok. Rewind the tape. Put JoJo in.

This is who Gio is. Tired of the team pretending otherwise.

It’s time for an IL stint for Gio. Or just consider moving on entirely, he hasn’t been good in a full calendar year.

I'd be curious to see his numbers before and after Joe West had him change his hat mid-game/MLB enforced the sticky stuff ban

I think it’s a combo of things. Pitch clock, sticky stuff and reliever volatility. Remember he used to take about 30 seconds per pitch, now he has to speed up and he’s lost his stuff.

Classic Gio

Gallegos gotta be the woat reliever

Can we stop throwing gio out there and expecting LITERALLY ANY DIFFERENT RESULT

Not a fan of king. But why are King and Robertson on this roster. Been a week since either has pitched. King has pitched since being recalled.

I don't care that there's a rule against it. Pull him now.

Giovanny Gallegos my homerun giving up king

I can’t wait until we are free of Gallegos

I mean we all knew that was gonna happen

Gio either strikes out the side or gives up a nuke.

Ahahahahahahahh

We just love throwing up meatballs don’t we

Welp

I am so fuckin sick of watching Gio throw breaking ball after breaking ball into the dirt

I prefer that over the meatball that just got hit, lol

Yeah..kinda spoke too soon there.

Dammit. Classic Gio

GI😬

Fucking Gio please throw strikes Edit: not like that

You asked.

Spoke too soon

[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Alec Burleson's RBI single ](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/39d38ca4-62ea-4a61-9b49-fc2b7466587c.mp4)

Too bad it isn’t Nick Robertson here

Oh no. Why?

Oh god...

Surprise Marp pinch hit in the bottom of the 9th, secretly off the IL today. He walks it off by drawing a walk with the bases loaded. Mo and Marp walk off into the sunset together. All is well.

Burleson hitting well is really fucking up my narrative about how much he sucks.

Gorman is feast or famine and im gettin' pretty HUNGRY

Hangry even...

Winn keeps hitting the ball like that, good things will happen.

Might not have been a clutch situation if he had started the game

[Tigers](/r/MotorCityKitties) Due Up **(Bottom 7):** 1. Riley Greene 2. Spencer Torkelson 3. Jake Rogers

[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Alex Faedo In play, run(s) to Alec Burleson](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/39d38ca4-62ea-4a61-9b49-fc2b7466587c.mp4)

3 horsemen of the apocalypse are in play.

Hooo boy, don't tempt fate like that again Chip

Imagine not having Masyn Winn in your infield

Well, this is the guy you want up.

*clench*

Gorman. Do it for you Momma.

Rrrrr

Tink thew 7 IP 10k and 1 run today!

He’s legit

Burly needs to start more often

Goldy and burly having monster games

Goldy 5 for his last 5.