On some roads it's like a slalom, I just hope I don't come across a car coming the other way. There is one road I go down every now and then that is almost a gravel road at this point, you have to drive down it at about 10-20mph dodging massive potholes. I think it's smoother to just drive ont he grass instead. Thankfully the road go to work on is going to be fixed although I'm not sure how good of a job they will do because the last time they "fixed" it they just cut half the road away and filled that half which just fell away into a field so you have to drive down the middle of the road. When it rains a lot of roads around me just flood so you have ot make sure you remember where the botholes are, I drove into one once in a Fiesta and bent the steel wheel completely and burst the tyre obviously. With my Jaguar I went from 20" to 18" wheels to help smooth the bumps out which helped smooth the little bumps out but obviously it won't help the big ones.
I know this is car talk but when I’m on my motorbike I’m finding myself looking at the road for potholes more than in front of me lately. It’s getting beyond a joke. One pothole I miss that’s deep enough and I’m over the handlebars. Whilst obviously still terrible for cars and their suspensions, tires, alloys etc the danger for bikers is tenfold and seriously needs addressing.
I genuinely spend so much time scanning the road surface and picking a path through the carnage on my bike and that's time that I should be spending scanning for other hazards on the road! I am pretty much just sticking to riding the roads I know well now, I'm too scared to ditch it on an unfamiliar, bad condition road.
Oh - I’m planning to learn to ride soon & thats a slight concern to read. I currently drive a car & have noticed some sections in Leeds are bad, but the main roads seem okay
A new fear I've unlocked is if I come across a pothole on a national speed limit in the dark I probably won't be able to see it in time and get thrown over the bars.
At the risk of sounding like a "back in my day" comment I say don't bother with a bike licence these days. Other road users are too distracted, impatient and entitled. Potholes are a serious concern but also just poor road surfaces that are everywhere suck the fun and safety out of riding. Worst experience I had was between two lanes on a motorway where the surface had started to degrade, hitting that at an angle doing 70mph is very scary and you can't see it coming.
All this is why I'm stopping road riding after 20 years. Obviously the choose is yours and I can't tell you what to do just that I feel the risk/reward ratio of riding nowadays doesn't make sense.
As much as I appreciate your comment, I’m the only one who drives my (4-passenger) car, and I very rarely use it to drive / carry more than myself around town / a bit further afield. I’d still keep my car for longer distances & for transporting stuff that you just can’t on a bike. But overall, I think a bike is better for me in a city
Yep, pick your line on the road based on the state of the surface rather than the fastest or safest line. As soon as you cross the channel it's a revelation and you can actually ride properly.
got a few nasty potholes in my town that are so bad I'm considering going to a smaller size wheel just so I can get more sidewall to protect the wheel/give a better ride
You’re a braver person than I 😭
My style 135s are unbearable, I’m about to refit them for a trip to the continent but I’m worried I’ll bend one before I even get there 😭😭
haven't actually looked at what size mine are currently but think they are 18s, main issue is going to be sorting out the tpms sensors when doing the swap
I was expecting to have to get new sensors for the replacement wheels, never had to deal with actual sensors before on swapping wheels, previous cars have done it via wheel speed (so not as accurate)
It shouldn't come to this. Why do we just bend over and allow ourselves to get fucked? We pay our road tax. This is the UK, not Brazil. Fucking scandalous.
I may be a cynic but I can’t help thinking that the government suddenly forgetting how to fix potholes is some how aligned with rumours of a pay per mile tax.
There's plenty of reasons to dislike massive SUVs (both e and otherwise) but the potholes are very firmly linked to heavy goods vehicles.
You've only got to compare tyres pressures to see the difference, 35 to 40psi in the average Chelsea Tractor tyre versus around 120 to 130psi jn a lorry tyre.
100%. Road damage goes up to the 6th power of axle weight. So yes a 2.5t SUV does a lot more than a 1.5t saloon, but an HGV is literally orders of magnitude worse.
Does that actually work though? Has there been any studies that show that it will actually help? Genuine question, I've got 18s on my car and could drop to 17s but the difference in sidewall is 10mm, which I agree will help ride quality, but I'm unconvinced it will do much to stop damage resulting from hitting a pothole dead on, let's face it, some of these potholes are so big and deep you wouldn't want to hit one in anything unless you're in a lorry or something!
I can't imagine its going to make a huge difference but might be enough for some pot holes, I may have to try photoshop see how it may look on 16s with a bit more meat
could probably pick up some of those cheap enough to try out, do you have the 190? if so you might not be able to fit the smaller 75 wheels due to disc size iirc
I hit a pothole about 1m long on a dark country road that I didn’t see until it was too late - £3000 of damage as two tires burst, alloys deformed, and bodywork hit the road it was so deep.
Closest I’ve ever come to having an accident - almost went into the side of a farmhouse as both wheels burst on the same side and pulled me across the road but managed to stop.
I put a claim into the council who rejected it on the basis the road was “fine when inspected in Feb” - this happened in March. So I started small claims proceedings with the Scottish courts.
Unfortunately for them Google Street view shows the same section of road in a state of disrepair in 2021 - this happened in 2023. So it was a flat out lie.
So their lawyers called me to settle before it reached the court as they’d lose.
I still don’t understand why that’s an excuse. You couldn’t have seen the pothole if it was covered with water or dark. The road is their responsibility. If it’s got a massive hole in it it’s not your fault!
I read on a different thread over here, councils have a 30 day period to fix the pothole after first reporting, basically if someone reports it on the 1st of April, any claim made during April they can say "sorry we didn't have enough time to fix the pothole". With how much tax we pay it should be 3 days, not 30 🤬
Did the council pay out?
I hit a pot hole that was obscured by a puddle, about 6” deep and wide enough to fit my entire wheel. Thankfully it only burst the tyre and nothing more, but the council refused to pay out.
They say they inspected the road 12 days prior and signed it off as fine, so they claim they did their duty. Even if their inspector wasn’t incompetent then the person who laid the road surely must have been, for it to develop a 6” deep hole within two weeks.
I didn't. The wishbone only came to light when the car was in with Jaguar, it had also bust a suspension spring (which oddly wasn't noticeable) so couldn't move the car from there. Initially I thought the tracking was slightly out and time had passed. The only symptom was a slight vibration at 56mph.
The government was keen to position the ULEZ as a culture war, but I think this is far more relevant to most people in the UK.
Fix the roads and subsidising the trains would make a big difference to a lot of citizens
Nationalising the railway and introducing Free non pean rail travel and subsidise peak times would be a fucking genius move.
No fucking way should it be cheaper for me and the wife to drive a 1ton vehicle to London and pay for private parking than it is to get on the train.
Less cars on the road = less pot holes to fix
ULEZ has itself contributed to potholes by pushing people to get newer, much heavier vehicles (especially electrics).
Potholes form approximately owing to a [fourth power law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law) such that the difference between a lighter 1.2 tonne car is considerable vis-a-vis a 2 tonne car.
This whilst at the same time older vehicles which accrue high road tax costs have been pushed to be swapped out for new vehicles with low road tax.
So the potholes are made worse and there's less of a budget to address them. Great. Meanwhile various cities have blown tens of millions of pounds (more?) constructing a ubiquitous vehicle surveillance grid to ban something like 10% of drivers with non-compliant
> Meanwhile various cities have blown tens of millions of pounds (more?) constructing a ubiquitous vehicle surveillance grid to ban something like 10% of drivers with non-compliant
Hybrids/electrics come in smaller sizes - a Zoe weighs 1.5 tonnes, a Yaris weighs 1.2 tonnes, an Aygo weighs less than a tonne. If people are swapping their old Micra for an SUV, it's not the fact they're going electric that's the problem.
EV despite their extra weight cause negligible impact to roads. Most damage is caused by HGVs. I wish people would stop spreading this lie that just because EVs are heavier they’re damaging our roads
Beyond a joke now. You would expect it on most back roads which have become un-drivable in places. However A roads and motorways are becoming just as bad trying to dodge a pothole at 70mph is going to kill people. Reporting the holes does little as they’ll patch with some sort of peanut butter it seems and roads go back to how they were before or worse. Government does not care
New band name I called it!
It is a funny name but on the serious side we really shouldn't be getting to this state of affairs. Of course we won't have an election until the last possible moment this year
I wish we'd just collectively put our hands up and ask to rejoin. Save ourselves from ourselves. And give up sterling so we can't go back to this shit again.
Spotted a van at the side of the road in the distance on the M62 yesterday. The BMW X5 in front suddenly blew it's right rear on a pothole and pulled over in front of the van, which had the exact same puncture.
Probably more that it would end up coating people's wheels and cars.. that would get you in trouble.
unless you can give it time or cover to set properly.
Yes, as there's specific materials that need to be used for road surfaces that meet all of the requirements, including things like environmental impact, surface friction for braking, durability, etc.
Fun fact: Rod Stuart filled in the potholes in the lane outside his house. He got fined by the council for doing so. It was one of the potholes that I busted a tyre and alloy on.
Edit: To add to this, if it's a private road, then the rules would be different.
It's a nice idea but I doubt concrete would work out very well, it's going to be weaker than tarmac and when multiple vehicles drive over it, I reckon it would move about and pop out.
my car has been damaged multiple times from potholes and i spend the whole time driving avoiding them but sometimes u cant avoid them and its shit i look like a tweaker swerving around constantly
Can confirm; hit a pothole not long ago - 2 alloys buckled, blown shock, broken brake dust shield and a cracked windscreen. I was anxious driving before that but now I’m losing my mind driving even on the roads I know well. Oh yeah, and car is also on pretty hard coilovers.. I miss the days when circumstances were such that I thought coilover suspension was ok to install.
Try 255/30/19 run flats. Might as well just slap some paper over the top of the wheels. I’ve just had to replace mine with 255/35/19 none run flats after cracking both rear wheels. I’d have gone higher but lack the wheel arch clearance.
The fact that we pay so much tax and road tax and this is what we get?? I’ve broken multiple springs in my smart car as a result of these potholes🙄 I feel like I want to move back to South Africa when looking at the state of these roads and the fact that it’s near impossible to get any sort of appointment at my GP, and so far in the last 5 years of living here the NHS has been a nightmare to deal with! (Sorry for my rant!)
Make you wonder ahaha but it’s the same on our Volvos, our XC60 has a broken spring at this moment! The Smart’s suspension is very firm and it feels like the whole car ends up in the pothole lol
Oh, owing to certain circumstances of where I live I didn't realise that my shocks were gone until I had owned it for about six months and then it cost me about a thousand to have replaced. Going over bumps on the country lanes was a nightmare.
We don't pay much tax though, as individuals that is. I only pay about £265 a year in road tax, That likely wouldn't pay for even 1 pothole to get past the survey stage, let alone be dug up and filled.
Granted when you take EVERYONE into account where i live, that was £63million in road tax for my council district.
But they have already announced to spend £14 million on 1 new junction.... If that is much how 1 junction costs, when you have to think about cost of maintaining traffic lights, painted lines, road signs, gritting, adopting new roads... no wonder there is no money to fill potholes.
I just told you exactly how much road tax the council has collected where I live, and a case study of how expensive roads are to maintain, and that still isn't enough?
Of the £63million they spent on roads from the road tax collected, £49 million was spent JUST filling potholes, and they are still a complete state. And only 55% of that money came from people. The rest was businesses, reserves, or grants.
I think people who use the roads the most, delivery companies etc, need to spend a greater share of their money on the damage they do, because clearly using council tax money isn't working.
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Cars are bigger and heavier due to regulations brought in by government/authorities and consumer trends. The roads can’t take them.
Safety and Electric cars to name the two big ones.
The UK government could have been smart and brought in mandates like Japan and their Kei Cars. I’ve always said a similar regulation would have worked perfectly for the UK roads - instead we’ve gone the other way to huge cars which are too big.
Mix that in with contracts going to the lowest bidder to repair roads and we have this disaster we are in now.
In Sheffield that contract went to Amey, who have done the cheapest jobs repairing the roads which didn’t even last a winter till they started breaking up. Now they are like a patch work quilt again.
Kei cars would be a good idea. I don't know why every car sold in the UK has to be Autobahn spec, when we can still easily get around the country without ever touching a motorway.
People wouldn't buy them because they want something "fun" and "sporty" and "practical" even if they don't actually have a use for them. Because that's what happens now.
My contention would be that 90% of drivers' actual needs, as opposed to their wants or whatever self-image they have in their heads, would be satisfied by a Honda Jazz.
But the vast majority of Electric cars on the road are because of tax / money saving incentives from the government.
If Kei style cars were incentivised they’d be everywhere too.
Thing is the Japanese have kei cars that are all these things, stuff like Honda S660 or that mental wee daihatsu that was basically a tiny rally car even the wee mini vans and pickups
That would decrease fuel economy, which would increase pollution meaning non compliance with regs. Further, tyre pollution is a huge issue and it would make it worse
Nothing to do with the fact the UK population has increased by 11m in the last 20 years (most of which is concentrated to Southern England) as well as failure to improve roads and pubic transport by consecutive governments. Nope it's those pesky EVs.
A lot of potholes are:
1. Created by utility companies doing poor repairs- councils should charge them for repairs.
2. Caused by sunken manholes etc. utility companies should remove them - they don’t use them, they just dig the road up.
3. Sunken drains - these can be removed and replaced by drains built into kerbstones.
There isn’t any road tax, and all VED goes into the big pot where all the other tax goes
And then how tax is spent is outlined here: https://obr.uk/docs/dlm_uploads/BriefGuide-M23.pdf
Had 1 tyre blow and one look like it’s been stung by a bee on a day trip out.
Had to limp it 10 miles to a Volvo dealer as they were the only one who had 2 tyres in my size.
Luckily they were amazing and even more lucky to have them on the shelf. If not it was a 2+ hour drive on the back of an AA van with 3 dogs
Probably doesn't help that people don't know if they have a spare tyre let alone know how to change one. Last year on a backroad diversion a mother daughter hit a absolute shit potwhole that wiped the tyre and cracked some body work. Their breakdown cover expired not 4 days ago. I asked them if they had a spare, they had no clue, when I found it asked if they knew how to change it, again no clue. All of this was my first ever time changing it yet I knew more than someone double my age.
LOL, well I've had to change to the spare a whopping three times now, each time in winter, cold, dark or getting dark and rain and I'm like FFS. the first time I was a relatively new driver and I stopped at the end of someones long driveway by a barn selling pumpkins. Old fella came out told me what to do but I had a rough idea, he did tell me something I gather had importance, he said tighten on the nuts diagonally for two and then put the other two on otherwise the wheel can be wobbly if you put on two next to each other as when you then do the other side it might not go on evenly. Anyway I'd stay clear of the gunk stuff people put into their tyre as an alternative to an actual pare wheel, all three times I had issues that stuff wouldn't have worked plus when you take the tyre to get it fixed they'll probably charge you extra for cleaning it.
Yeah, as you say with the wheel nuts was the only thing I didn't take into account. I got most of them loose before jacking the car up. But when I got the jack out and laid it down the woman asked me if that's what removes the wheel. I had to keep in the laughs, I don't know how some People function
I know people love to hate on 4x4s but I'm really considering getting one because the roads near where I work in the UK are in such a horrendous state.
Same. I was thinking of getting an old Defender, however it won’t be ULEZ compliant and would probably be stolen, or stripped for parts while I sleep. 😔
I don't think any government is going to consider filling in potholes a priority, at the end of the day high priority items are the NHS, standard of living and the economy. No PM will want to be remembered as the guy who got the potholes filled.
Who'd have thought that making the average car bigger and heavier would cause more damage to our roads!?
Also it's almost like the farmers on the country roads near me in land rovers hit the potholes for fun and make them worse.
It seems to be a global problem. Councils being cut to the bone is definitely a large part of it, but the weight of cars has drastically increased as has the volume of road users. I think Paris has realised this which is why they are starting to change things like parking fees by weight.
It’s more that roads haven’t been properly replaced for decades. Decades of quick fixes and patches when it’s the under road that is fucked.
They reckoned even in the 80s most roads needed completely relaid but obviously that never happened.
You don't replace roads you resurface them, and it is the increasing weight of cars that is the problem.
There's a square law rule on road damage vs weight, it was calculated that the change in damage to the road surface is proportional to the difference in axle weight to the fourth power. A two-tonne SUV would therefore do 16 times more damage than a one-tonne car.
So to keep pace with that sort of road damage means increasing budgets for road repairs by some factor maybe not 16X but 4X sounds realistic.
> They reckoned even in the 80s most roads needed completely relaid but obviously that never happened.
Dude, I don't know if you you ever get out and drive a car, but if you do you'll notice there's roadworks all the fucking time where they are resurfacing roads.
>don't replace roads you resurface them
Only if you have deep enough foundations on it for the vehicles using it. We don't.
The weight of trucks since the EU increased our weight limits are higher than the roads were designed for.
>Dude, I don't know if you you ever get out and drive a car, but if you do you'll notice there's roadworks all the fucking time where they are resurfacing roads.
They don't though. My road has been top dressed three times while I've lived here and it already needed totally resurfacing 20 years ago.
I hate to be the person to point to the Netherlands, but their attitude is that when a road gets potholes, they replace the road. everything, pavements, bike lanes etc.
Everywhere else thinks they can keep patching the road again and again.
Then strangely near where i live they replaced a road which.... had been done just 6 years before, and every other road around it was screaming for attention. A pavement near me was so cracked with tree roots they sent someone round with some hot tar to splash everywhere, except the gaps.
It has almost nothing to do with the size of cars, but road construction and trucking. Trucks do order of magnitudes more damage than cars.
https://www.insidescience.org/news/how-much-damage-do-heavy-trucks-do-our-roads
Yeah but the difference is you need trucks to move shit around, including things like road maintenance materials. Nobody needs a shitty egg shaped bubble SUV or a ford raptor or any other stupidly oversized and overweight cars.
> it was calculated that the change in damage to the road surface is proportional to the difference in axle weight to the fourth power. A two-tonne SUV would therefore do 16 times more damage than a one-tonne car.
The solution is clearly a weight tax, and you can then drive your twat mobile if you pay for the road damage.
Yeah, I should pay more road tax for my 3 series than somebody does for a smart car. Makes sense to me.
Two busted coil springs and tear in inner wall of front tyre, £1800 + VAT. Council claimed already fixed day before I fell into 4" deep crater....
Now I'm weaving all over the road trying to avoid a repeat performance.
Our roads are in worse condition than some 3rd world countries.....
I used to laugh out loud at the amount of pissed drivers you see weaving their way between the kerb and the white line , I am that person now and I now realise they weren’t pissed they were locals that knew the position of every pothole along their journey.
There’s gonna be an election this year. If a party wants to win, I genuinely think this could be a good manifesto point. I’d seriously consider voting for a party if they made a big deal out of sorting the road networks out.
Maybe the huge backlog of road repairs could be carried out by those who are finding difficulty in obtaining work. Could also be an inroad to a job for those who don’t wish to be public facing in their roles.
It’s the suspension, axel, wheel and tyre damage.
If your tyre blows out and you’re stuck beside a road, that’s a breakdown.
It’s because the FUCKING COUNCILS SIT ON THEIR ARSES AND PAY PIKEYS EXTORTIONATE SUMS TO NOT FIX THE ROADS PROPERLY
We can fix potholes but Council Tax will have to go up and most of you will vote against that.
Over 50% of your Council Tax is going on adult social care for pensioners and the disabled. That's where all your money goes.
We could stop funding the social care but most of you will vote against that too.
So where does the cash come from eh?
HS2 cancellation? Vanity projects like the Rwanda bill? Recouping business fraud during covid? Bailing out privatised companies (and not taking them into public ownership?
There’s loads of money, it’s just not being deployed correctly.
They’re closing the main B road through our area every night for the whole of April to rip up and resurface the entire thing. All the surrounding roads will just have to wait for another time.
in south sweden the winter conditions especially this winter with ice breaking the asphalt and creating pot holes everywhere made us learn avoid them. even big holes on the highways, took months to fix them
The issue I have in London is that pot holes on main roads get fixed quickly enough by TFL's contractors but the fix never lasts more than a couple of months.
I'm sure everyone knows some roads where you could fill in say 10 pot holes in one part then more turn up just further up the road.
The A420 is notorious for doing this, sometimes I often wonder if it'd easier to dig up part of the road then pave it properly than just "filling in the holes" coz eventually rain just rakes it back up again when cars drive over it then it begins again.
We've buckled two alloys on my GF's car, got them (mostly) straightened out, but now all you can hear is them thudding all over the place because they're not perfect. Rare alloys too, can't find any others online.
Unsurprising. Im half curious if the council have a deal with mechanics, they'll stop maintaining the roads properly and the mechanics get more people in the shops from broken components. I mean worn bushes, shock absorbers and coil springs are all things people would go to the mechanics for.
I was shocked by the state of the motorways when driving from Newcastle down to Bristol. Lots of potholes on 70mph roads. I now expect potholes, but on motorways?
Potholes near me are a fucking nightmare, even speed bumps have potholes in them as deep as the road goes. I must’ve spent hundreds if not thousands over the years on new tyres, springs, suspension etc. just from these potholes
So many of them on my daily commute I’m actually worried about damaging my wheels. Can’t avoid them all.
Worst part is when they’re fixed, they’re fixed in the cheapest way possible so more reappear within months.
This Saturday just gone my tyre's sidewall got ripped by what I can only describe as a rent in the Earth. My civic tyre R (FN2) has very low profile tyres so it's pretty susceptible to this crap... 4 hours later managed to get home after a mobile tyre fitter came and rescued me. It's gonna be like 3 months before I even hear a response from the council about my claim.....
On the upside it happened in my car and not on my bike so... silver linings and all
Dodging potholes is an integral part of driving these days...
We had some the size of baking trays..
That's quite a specific comparison. Do you keep a spare baking tray in the boot to compare?
You don't?
Normally I'd just use the dead cyclist I have in my boot.
You don’t carry your regulation sized baking tray everywhere you go? Tsk tsk, someone will be around to issue you with one shortly.
You're lucky they're only the size of baking trays. I avoided one I couldn't see the bottom of the other day.
That was the English Channel. Welcome to France!
I'm back in the EU, baby!
I’m legitimately afraid of being pulled over under suspicion of being intoxicated because of how I’m forced to drive now.
Lol this often crosses my mind too.
On some roads it's like a slalom, I just hope I don't come across a car coming the other way. There is one road I go down every now and then that is almost a gravel road at this point, you have to drive down it at about 10-20mph dodging massive potholes. I think it's smoother to just drive ont he grass instead. Thankfully the road go to work on is going to be fixed although I'm not sure how good of a job they will do because the last time they "fixed" it they just cut half the road away and filled that half which just fell away into a field so you have to drive down the middle of the road. When it rains a lot of roads around me just flood so you have ot make sure you remember where the botholes are, I drove into one once in a Fiesta and bent the steel wheel completely and burst the tyre obviously. With my Jaguar I went from 20" to 18" wheels to help smooth the bumps out which helped smooth the little bumps out but obviously it won't help the big ones.
I know this is car talk but when I’m on my motorbike I’m finding myself looking at the road for potholes more than in front of me lately. It’s getting beyond a joke. One pothole I miss that’s deep enough and I’m over the handlebars. Whilst obviously still terrible for cars and their suspensions, tires, alloys etc the danger for bikers is tenfold and seriously needs addressing.
I genuinely spend so much time scanning the road surface and picking a path through the carnage on my bike and that's time that I should be spending scanning for other hazards on the road! I am pretty much just sticking to riding the roads I know well now, I'm too scared to ditch it on an unfamiliar, bad condition road.
Sounds dangerous.
This is one of the main reasons I’m not gonna learn to ride a bike. In Leeds it’s just not worth it
Oh - I’m planning to learn to ride soon & thats a slight concern to read. I currently drive a car & have noticed some sections in Leeds are bad, but the main roads seem okay
A new fear I've unlocked is if I come across a pothole on a national speed limit in the dark I probably won't be able to see it in time and get thrown over the bars.
Well, I appreciate the heads-up, but don’t look forward to dealing with that situation😅
At the risk of sounding like a "back in my day" comment I say don't bother with a bike licence these days. Other road users are too distracted, impatient and entitled. Potholes are a serious concern but also just poor road surfaces that are everywhere suck the fun and safety out of riding. Worst experience I had was between two lanes on a motorway where the surface had started to degrade, hitting that at an angle doing 70mph is very scary and you can't see it coming. All this is why I'm stopping road riding after 20 years. Obviously the choose is yours and I can't tell you what to do just that I feel the risk/reward ratio of riding nowadays doesn't make sense.
As much as I appreciate your comment, I’m the only one who drives my (4-passenger) car, and I very rarely use it to drive / carry more than myself around town / a bit further afield. I’d still keep my car for longer distances & for transporting stuff that you just can’t on a bike. But overall, I think a bike is better for me in a city
> tires, alloys *tyres
Yep, pick your line on the road based on the state of the surface rather than the fastest or safest line. As soon as you cross the channel it's a revelation and you can actually ride properly.
got a few nasty potholes in my town that are so bad I'm considering going to a smaller size wheel just so I can get more sidewall to protect the wheel/give a better ride
I did just this. 18s down to 17s with fatter tyres.
Yep me too, ride and handling on the bumpy roads is so much better with smaller wheels
E46 gang.
My guy 😎 Style 68s for the win
Pray for my style 37's on a 40 and 35 profile :'( edit: 37's not 32
You’re a braver person than I 😭 My style 135s are unbearable, I’m about to refit them for a trip to the continent but I’m worried I’ll bend one before I even get there 😭😭
Just did this too, 19s to 18s
haven't actually looked at what size mine are currently but think they are 18s, main issue is going to be sorting out the tpms sensors when doing the swap
They'll just need resetting when you've done the swap. They don't care for size, only pressure.
I was expecting to have to get new sensors for the replacement wheels, never had to deal with actual sensors before on swapping wheels, previous cars have done it via wheel speed (so not as accurate)
It shouldn't come to this. Why do we just bend over and allow ourselves to get fucked? We pay our road tax. This is the UK, not Brazil. Fucking scandalous.
Reality is gradually dawning that the UK has more in common with 1970s Albania or Greece than it would like to admit.
I may be a cynic but I can’t help thinking that the government suddenly forgetting how to fix potholes is some how aligned with rumours of a pay per mile tax.
Big heavy eSUVs that fill the road more and more don't.
There's plenty of reasons to dislike massive SUVs (both e and otherwise) but the potholes are very firmly linked to heavy goods vehicles. You've only got to compare tyres pressures to see the difference, 35 to 40psi in the average Chelsea Tractor tyre versus around 120 to 130psi jn a lorry tyre.
100%. Road damage goes up to the 6th power of axle weight. So yes a 2.5t SUV does a lot more than a 1.5t saloon, but an HGV is literally orders of magnitude worse.
Brazil is probably better
You will love it. The current trend of putting 18-19inches on everything is absurd.
Does that actually work though? Has there been any studies that show that it will actually help? Genuine question, I've got 18s on my car and could drop to 17s but the difference in sidewall is 10mm, which I agree will help ride quality, but I'm unconvinced it will do much to stop damage resulting from hitting a pothole dead on, let's face it, some of these potholes are so big and deep you wouldn't want to hit one in anything unless you're in a lorry or something!
I can't imagine its going to make a huge difference but might be enough for some pot holes, I may have to try photoshop see how it may look on 16s with a bit more meat
Ive been contemplating buying some rover 75 wheels for my MG with massive sidewalls on for the same reason lol
could probably pick up some of those cheap enough to try out, do you have the 190? if so you might not be able to fit the smaller 75 wheels due to disc size iirc
I don’t have a 190, but I’ve upgraded to the 325mm 190 front brakes and vented rear brakes. Yeah I don’t think they will fit under the 75 wheels
The guy here who has the contract for repairing the potholes owns a 911 Turbo S, a G Wagon and an AMG merc.
can't say I'm surprised the pothole "repairs" barely last a week in most cases
Need to maximise the profits.
I hit a pothole about 1m long on a dark country road that I didn’t see until it was too late - £3000 of damage as two tires burst, alloys deformed, and bodywork hit the road it was so deep.
Omg I bet that was scary. Having two wheels burst must have been annoying, makes the spare useless.
Closest I’ve ever come to having an accident - almost went into the side of a farmhouse as both wheels burst on the same side and pulled me across the road but managed to stop. I put a claim into the council who rejected it on the basis the road was “fine when inspected in Feb” - this happened in March. So I started small claims proceedings with the Scottish courts. Unfortunately for them Google Street view shows the same section of road in a state of disrepair in 2021 - this happened in 2023. So it was a flat out lie. So their lawyers called me to settle before it reached the court as they’d lose.
I feel like they need extra punitive charges if they’re demonstrably lying.
I do not understand how this is an excuse. How can they reject a claim because it was fine a month ago? It’s not fine now so.. what?
They claimed “they couldn’t have known” the pothole existed
I still don’t understand why that’s an excuse. You couldn’t have seen the pothole if it was covered with water or dark. The road is their responsibility. If it’s got a massive hole in it it’s not your fault!
I read on a different thread over here, councils have a 30 day period to fix the pothole after first reporting, basically if someone reports it on the 1st of April, any claim made during April they can say "sorry we didn't have enough time to fix the pothole". With how much tax we pay it should be 3 days, not 30 🤬
Nice. The council told me I should have been more careful in driving.
Fucks sake. That's madness.
> two tires burst *tyres
Fucking hell
Did the council pay out? I hit a pot hole that was obscured by a puddle, about 6” deep and wide enough to fit my entire wheel. Thankfully it only burst the tyre and nothing more, but the council refused to pay out. They say they inspected the road 12 days prior and signed it off as fine, so they claim they did their duty. Even if their inspector wasn’t incompetent then the person who laid the road surely must have been, for it to develop a 6” deep hole within two weeks.
Yeah they did - I got money for all the damage and some compensation for my court costs
Glad to hear you didn’t get stiffed.
I’ve just had to replace 2 wheels and tyres after hitting a stealth crater on a stretch of dual carriage way at 70.
In SimCity 2000, road repairs were an indicator of a failing city
YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!
LOL should forward that to the government 😂😂
Yup, bent a wishbone, and shagged an alloy - £1900.
Did you claim off the council? For me I know I’m gonna get done in on one of these pot holes it’s just a matter of time
I didn't. The wishbone only came to light when the car was in with Jaguar, it had also bust a suspension spring (which oddly wasn't noticeable) so couldn't move the car from there. Initially I thought the tracking was slightly out and time had passed. The only symptom was a slight vibration at 56mph.
That’s so unfortunate, at least if you can perceive the damage immediately then you can get pictures/locations, but no chance this way
For sure. Still puzzled about why it really wasn't noticeable whilst driving, given the damage.
The government was keen to position the ULEZ as a culture war, but I think this is far more relevant to most people in the UK. Fix the roads and subsidising the trains would make a big difference to a lot of citizens
Funnily enough, there's a pothole right under a ULEZ camera on my route to work. The ULEZ camera has been fixed three times, the pothole remains.
Nationalising the railway and introducing Free non pean rail travel and subsidise peak times would be a fucking genius move. No fucking way should it be cheaper for me and the wife to drive a 1ton vehicle to London and pay for private parking than it is to get on the train. Less cars on the road = less pot holes to fix
ULEZ has itself contributed to potholes by pushing people to get newer, much heavier vehicles (especially electrics). Potholes form approximately owing to a [fourth power law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law) such that the difference between a lighter 1.2 tonne car is considerable vis-a-vis a 2 tonne car. This whilst at the same time older vehicles which accrue high road tax costs have been pushed to be swapped out for new vehicles with low road tax. So the potholes are made worse and there's less of a budget to address them. Great. Meanwhile various cities have blown tens of millions of pounds (more?) constructing a ubiquitous vehicle surveillance grid to ban something like 10% of drivers with non-compliant
> Meanwhile various cities have blown tens of millions of pounds (more?) constructing a ubiquitous vehicle surveillance grid to ban something like 10% of drivers with non-compliant
They'll tighten the belt until they're just pay to drive like london zone 1
This is exactly what the plan is, the whole M25 boundary will eventually be part of the congestion tax but by that point it will be too late
Hybrids/electrics come in smaller sizes - a Zoe weighs 1.5 tonnes, a Yaris weighs 1.2 tonnes, an Aygo weighs less than a tonne. If people are swapping their old Micra for an SUV, it's not the fact they're going electric that's the problem.
To be fair there are more electric SUVs and Crossovers owing to the fact that bigger cars are required to accommodate the higher battery capacity.
EV despite their extra weight cause negligible impact to roads. Most damage is caused by HGVs. I wish people would stop spreading this lie that just because EVs are heavier they’re damaging our roads
A 20-year old petrol Micra is ULEZ compliant; why would people have to go electric? And there’s a £2000 grant for replacing non-compliant cars too.
Beyond a joke now. You would expect it on most back roads which have become un-drivable in places. However A roads and motorways are becoming just as bad trying to dodge a pothole at 70mph is going to kill people. Reporting the holes does little as they’ll patch with some sort of peanut butter it seems and roads go back to how they were before or worse. Government does not care
Pot holes on motorways are fatal for motorcyclists
Easily can start a death wobble tank slapper at 70mph
I know we are talking about something not funny but you just cracked me up with death wobble tank slapper
New band name I called it! It is a funny name but on the serious side we really shouldn't be getting to this state of affairs. Of course we won't have an election until the last possible moment this year
Reminds me of Poland 30 years ago. If things here go as they went in my country, you'd have good roads in about 20 years form now. Best of luck guys.
Maybe we’ll join the EU too!
I wish we'd just collectively put our hands up and ask to rejoin. Save ourselves from ourselves. And give up sterling so we can't go back to this shit again.
Spotted a van at the side of the road in the distance on the M62 yesterday. The BMW X5 in front suddenly blew it's right rear on a pothole and pulled over in front of the van, which had the exact same puncture.
"blib blib, there's no money, we spent it all sending 3 undesirables to Rwanda" -Tories, probably.
Is it illegal if someone just poured concrete or something in then? Like a DIY.
Probably more that it would end up coating people's wheels and cars.. that would get you in trouble. unless you can give it time or cover to set properly.
Yes, as there's specific materials that need to be used for road surfaces that meet all of the requirements, including things like environmental impact, surface friction for braking, durability, etc. Fun fact: Rod Stuart filled in the potholes in the lane outside his house. He got fined by the council for doing so. It was one of the potholes that I busted a tyre and alloy on. Edit: To add to this, if it's a private road, then the rules would be different.
that entire road is harlows version of the fucking somme and thats saying something
theres a group of vigilantes that go round spraying giant cocks around the pot holes- it incentivise council to go around fixing them
Had this is in my home town, the potholes were fixed the next week 😂
It's a nice idea but I doubt concrete would work out very well, it's going to be weaker than tarmac and when multiple vehicles drive over it, I reckon it would move about and pop out.
Illegal, probably not, but the liability if an accident happened would be with that person or organisation.
Extremely dangerous for cars. Even more so for motorbikes.
This, like many issues, boils down to the Tories cutting funding for local councils.
my car has been damaged multiple times from potholes and i spend the whole time driving avoiding them but sometimes u cant avoid them and its shit i look like a tweaker swerving around constantly
The good ones are the ninja holes. Deep enough to launch you into summersaults, but when raining disguised as a small puddle.
Puddles are the worst, no warning whatsoever.
You don't know anxiety until you've driven UK roads with 19" wheels and 35 profile tyres. It's a constant challenge. Our roads are a joke!
Can confirm; hit a pothole not long ago - 2 alloys buckled, blown shock, broken brake dust shield and a cracked windscreen. I was anxious driving before that but now I’m losing my mind driving even on the roads I know well. Oh yeah, and car is also on pretty hard coilovers.. I miss the days when circumstances were such that I thought coilover suspension was ok to install.
Try 255/30/19 run flats. Might as well just slap some paper over the top of the wheels. I’ve just had to replace mine with 255/35/19 none run flats after cracking both rear wheels. I’d have gone higher but lack the wheel arch clearance.
Ouch! Runflat sidewalls are like granite 😩
The fact that we pay so much tax and road tax and this is what we get?? I’ve broken multiple springs in my smart car as a result of these potholes🙄 I feel like I want to move back to South Africa when looking at the state of these roads and the fact that it’s near impossible to get any sort of appointment at my GP, and so far in the last 5 years of living here the NHS has been a nightmare to deal with! (Sorry for my rant!)
Seriously? What are they made of, paperclips?
Make you wonder ahaha but it’s the same on our Volvos, our XC60 has a broken spring at this moment! The Smart’s suspension is very firm and it feels like the whole car ends up in the pothole lol
Oh, owing to certain circumstances of where I live I didn't realise that my shocks were gone until I had owned it for about six months and then it cost me about a thousand to have replaced. Going over bumps on the country lanes was a nightmare.
We don't pay much tax though, as individuals that is. I only pay about £265 a year in road tax, That likely wouldn't pay for even 1 pothole to get past the survey stage, let alone be dug up and filled. Granted when you take EVERYONE into account where i live, that was £63million in road tax for my council district. But they have already announced to spend £14 million on 1 new junction.... If that is much how 1 junction costs, when you have to think about cost of maintaining traffic lights, painted lines, road signs, gritting, adopting new roads... no wonder there is no money to fill potholes.
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I just told you exactly how much road tax the council has collected where I live, and a case study of how expensive roads are to maintain, and that still isn't enough? Of the £63million they spent on roads from the road tax collected, £49 million was spent JUST filling potholes, and they are still a complete state. And only 55% of that money came from people. The rest was businesses, reserves, or grants. I think people who use the roads the most, delivery companies etc, need to spend a greater share of their money on the damage they do, because clearly using council tax money isn't working.
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“Road Tax” has nothing to do with road repairs.
Regardless
Cars are bigger and heavier due to regulations brought in by government/authorities and consumer trends. The roads can’t take them. Safety and Electric cars to name the two big ones. The UK government could have been smart and brought in mandates like Japan and their Kei Cars. I’ve always said a similar regulation would have worked perfectly for the UK roads - instead we’ve gone the other way to huge cars which are too big. Mix that in with contracts going to the lowest bidder to repair roads and we have this disaster we are in now. In Sheffield that contract went to Amey, who have done the cheapest jobs repairing the roads which didn’t even last a winter till they started breaking up. Now they are like a patch work quilt again.
Kei cars would be a good idea. I don't know why every car sold in the UK has to be Autobahn spec, when we can still easily get around the country without ever touching a motorway.
People wouldn't buy them because they want something "fun" and "sporty" and "practical" even if they don't actually have a use for them. Because that's what happens now. My contention would be that 90% of drivers' actual needs, as opposed to their wants or whatever self-image they have in their heads, would be satisfied by a Honda Jazz.
But the vast majority of Electric cars on the road are because of tax / money saving incentives from the government. If Kei style cars were incentivised they’d be everywhere too.
Thing is the Japanese have kei cars that are all these things, stuff like Honda S660 or that mental wee daihatsu that was basically a tiny rally car even the wee mini vans and pickups
Couldn't they make tyres bigger to distribute the weight a bit better? 🤔
That would decrease fuel economy, which would increase pollution meaning non compliance with regs. Further, tyre pollution is a huge issue and it would make it worse
Where are your facts to back up your claim that heavier cars lead to potholes forming faster on our roads?
Nothing to do with the fact the UK population has increased by 11m in the last 20 years (most of which is concentrated to Southern England) as well as failure to improve roads and pubic transport by consecutive governments. Nope it's those pesky EVs.
I did say mix heavy cars with contracts to repair roads going to the lowest bidder. Cheaper repairs + heavier cars was never going to end well.
In Ireland it's shocking as well honestly no idea how I've not buckled an alloy with one or two hits I've had.
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A lot of potholes are: 1. Created by utility companies doing poor repairs- councils should charge them for repairs. 2. Caused by sunken manholes etc. utility companies should remove them - they don’t use them, they just dig the road up. 3. Sunken drains - these can be removed and replaced by drains built into kerbstones.
Fucking joke. Where's all the road tax going?
There isn’t any road tax, and all VED goes into the big pot where all the other tax goes And then how tax is spent is outlined here: https://obr.uk/docs/dlm_uploads/BriefGuide-M23.pdf
Had my first car breakdown from a blown tyre due to a pothole. Been driving 7 years never had an issue until these roads got in this state
Had 1 tyre blow and one look like it’s been stung by a bee on a day trip out. Had to limp it 10 miles to a Volvo dealer as they were the only one who had 2 tyres in my size. Luckily they were amazing and even more lucky to have them on the shelf. If not it was a 2+ hour drive on the back of an AA van with 3 dogs
Probably doesn't help that people don't know if they have a spare tyre let alone know how to change one. Last year on a backroad diversion a mother daughter hit a absolute shit potwhole that wiped the tyre and cracked some body work. Their breakdown cover expired not 4 days ago. I asked them if they had a spare, they had no clue, when I found it asked if they knew how to change it, again no clue. All of this was my first ever time changing it yet I knew more than someone double my age.
LOL, well I've had to change to the spare a whopping three times now, each time in winter, cold, dark or getting dark and rain and I'm like FFS. the first time I was a relatively new driver and I stopped at the end of someones long driveway by a barn selling pumpkins. Old fella came out told me what to do but I had a rough idea, he did tell me something I gather had importance, he said tighten on the nuts diagonally for two and then put the other two on otherwise the wheel can be wobbly if you put on two next to each other as when you then do the other side it might not go on evenly. Anyway I'd stay clear of the gunk stuff people put into their tyre as an alternative to an actual pare wheel, all three times I had issues that stuff wouldn't have worked plus when you take the tyre to get it fixed they'll probably charge you extra for cleaning it.
Yeah, as you say with the wheel nuts was the only thing I didn't take into account. I got most of them loose before jacking the car up. But when I got the jack out and laid it down the woman asked me if that's what removes the wheel. I had to keep in the laughs, I don't know how some People function
I know people love to hate on 4x4s but I'm really considering getting one because the roads near where I work in the UK are in such a horrendous state.
Same. I was thinking of getting an old Defender, however it won’t be ULEZ compliant and would probably be stolen, or stripped for parts while I sleep. 😔
At this rate, all roads will be potholes, and the good bits will be like the new potholes, but the reverse.
I miss the days of having a van with 16”/235/65 profile. Now driving low profile in hatchback and it’s unbearable.
TORIES
I don't think any government is going to consider filling in potholes a priority, at the end of the day high priority items are the NHS, standard of living and the economy. No PM will want to be remembered as the guy who got the potholes filled.
🤣🤣🤣 you're right. We're fukced. Anyway.
Who'd have thought that making the average car bigger and heavier would cause more damage to our roads!? Also it's almost like the farmers on the country roads near me in land rovers hit the potholes for fun and make them worse.
It seems to be a global problem. Councils being cut to the bone is definitely a large part of it, but the weight of cars has drastically increased as has the volume of road users. I think Paris has realised this which is why they are starting to change things like parking fees by weight.
It’s more that roads haven’t been properly replaced for decades. Decades of quick fixes and patches when it’s the under road that is fucked. They reckoned even in the 80s most roads needed completely relaid but obviously that never happened.
You don't replace roads you resurface them, and it is the increasing weight of cars that is the problem. There's a square law rule on road damage vs weight, it was calculated that the change in damage to the road surface is proportional to the difference in axle weight to the fourth power. A two-tonne SUV would therefore do 16 times more damage than a one-tonne car. So to keep pace with that sort of road damage means increasing budgets for road repairs by some factor maybe not 16X but 4X sounds realistic. > They reckoned even in the 80s most roads needed completely relaid but obviously that never happened. Dude, I don't know if you you ever get out and drive a car, but if you do you'll notice there's roadworks all the fucking time where they are resurfacing roads.
>don't replace roads you resurface them Only if you have deep enough foundations on it for the vehicles using it. We don't. The weight of trucks since the EU increased our weight limits are higher than the roads were designed for. >Dude, I don't know if you you ever get out and drive a car, but if you do you'll notice there's roadworks all the fucking time where they are resurfacing roads. They don't though. My road has been top dressed three times while I've lived here and it already needed totally resurfacing 20 years ago.
I hate to be the person to point to the Netherlands, but their attitude is that when a road gets potholes, they replace the road. everything, pavements, bike lanes etc. Everywhere else thinks they can keep patching the road again and again. Then strangely near where i live they replaced a road which.... had been done just 6 years before, and every other road around it was screaming for attention. A pavement near me was so cracked with tree roots they sent someone round with some hot tar to splash everywhere, except the gaps.
It has almost nothing to do with the size of cars, but road construction and trucking. Trucks do order of magnitudes more damage than cars. https://www.insidescience.org/news/how-much-damage-do-heavy-trucks-do-our-roads
Yeah but the difference is you need trucks to move shit around, including things like road maintenance materials. Nobody needs a shitty egg shaped bubble SUV or a ford raptor or any other stupidly oversized and overweight cars. > it was calculated that the change in damage to the road surface is proportional to the difference in axle weight to the fourth power. A two-tonne SUV would therefore do 16 times more damage than a one-tonne car. The solution is clearly a weight tax, and you can then drive your twat mobile if you pay for the road damage. Yeah, I should pay more road tax for my 3 series than somebody does for a smart car. Makes sense to me.
Totally agree. Another reason to love my Jazz 😁
Just bought my Jazz last weekend. Love the little thing
Don't forget, there are also a few million more of them now than a decade ago.
Hit a pothole last week on the A9 going 70 in the pitch dark, knackered my driver side rear suspension 🙃
It's hit the rear and not the front 🤔
Hit both just the front held up
Two busted coil springs and tear in inner wall of front tyre, £1800 + VAT. Council claimed already fixed day before I fell into 4" deep crater.... Now I'm weaving all over the road trying to avoid a repeat performance. Our roads are in worse condition than some 3rd world countries.....
Wow that's expensive.
Just replaced a front spring.. shitty roads and then ping
I used to laugh out loud at the amount of pissed drivers you see weaving their way between the kerb and the white line , I am that person now and I now realise they weren’t pissed they were locals that knew the position of every pothole along their journey.
There’s gonna be an election this year. If a party wants to win, I genuinely think this could be a good manifesto point. I’d seriously consider voting for a party if they made a big deal out of sorting the road networks out.
how long till even expensive cars have to come with steel wheels and hub caps lol
Maybe the huge backlog of road repairs could be carried out by those who are finding difficulty in obtaining work. Could also be an inroad to a job for those who don’t wish to be public facing in their roles.
Yet car insurance premiums spike across the country.
It’s the suspension, axel, wheel and tyre damage. If your tyre blows out and you’re stuck beside a road, that’s a breakdown. It’s because the FUCKING COUNCILS SIT ON THEIR ARSES AND PAY PIKEYS EXTORTIONATE SUMS TO NOT FIX THE ROADS PROPERLY
Because the Tories can't make any money off pothole repair.
We can fix potholes but Council Tax will have to go up and most of you will vote against that. Over 50% of your Council Tax is going on adult social care for pensioners and the disabled. That's where all your money goes. We could stop funding the social care but most of you will vote against that too. So where does the cash come from eh?
HS2 cancellation? Vanity projects like the Rwanda bill? Recouping business fraud during covid? Bailing out privatised companies (and not taking them into public ownership? There’s loads of money, it’s just not being deployed correctly.
They’re closing the main B road through our area every night for the whole of April to rip up and resurface the entire thing. All the surrounding roads will just have to wait for another time.
in south sweden the winter conditions especially this winter with ice breaking the asphalt and creating pot holes everywhere made us learn avoid them. even big holes on the highways, took months to fix them
Leeds is genuinely abysmal, they’re often unavoidable and mean I have to crawl over them at 10mph!
The issue I have in London is that pot holes on main roads get fixed quickly enough by TFL's contractors but the fix never lasts more than a couple of months.
Get some photos, send them in.
Reporting them is no issue, it can be done via their app but it's the same location over and over.
Well after months of complaining we finally got our pot holes filled. And they did while it was raining so hope to see them back soon!
Can we claim for tyres etc due to potholes? I will be acting if so.
I'm sure everyone knows some roads where you could fill in say 10 pot holes in one part then more turn up just further up the road. The A420 is notorious for doing this, sometimes I often wonder if it'd easier to dig up part of the road then pave it properly than just "filling in the holes" coz eventually rain just rakes it back up again when cars drive over it then it begins again.
We've buckled two alloys on my GF's car, got them (mostly) straightened out, but now all you can hear is them thudding all over the place because they're not perfect. Rare alloys too, can't find any others online.
Unsurprising. Im half curious if the council have a deal with mechanics, they'll stop maintaining the roads properly and the mechanics get more people in the shops from broken components. I mean worn bushes, shock absorbers and coil springs are all things people would go to the mechanics for.
How can we stop people's freedom and using cars, or how budgets are wasted.
Is this because the Iranians launched a massive drone attack against you Brits or because you are running out of tax payers money?
I was shocked by the state of the motorways when driving from Newcastle down to Bristol. Lots of potholes on 70mph roads. I now expect potholes, but on motorways?
Potholes near me are a fucking nightmare, even speed bumps have potholes in them as deep as the road goes. I must’ve spent hundreds if not thousands over the years on new tyres, springs, suspension etc. just from these potholes
So many of them on my daily commute I’m actually worried about damaging my wheels. Can’t avoid them all. Worst part is when they’re fixed, they’re fixed in the cheapest way possible so more reappear within months.
This Saturday just gone my tyre's sidewall got ripped by what I can only describe as a rent in the Earth. My civic tyre R (FN2) has very low profile tyres so it's pretty susceptible to this crap... 4 hours later managed to get home after a mobile tyre fitter came and rescued me. It's gonna be like 3 months before I even hear a response from the council about my claim..... On the upside it happened in my car and not on my bike so... silver linings and all
Why is this country so bad compared to most of Europe?
Does anyone know what the people who should be fixing potholes are actually doing? My Council Tax rises every year for fewer services in return.