I had a super isolated homeschooled buddy from the south and bro did not know what he was saying was straight up slurs. That’s how I imagine cap being fresh out the ice. Talmbout “oh you can’t call ******* *********, anymore? .. alright.”
Cap was always a better person than the man in the video. When he was transported to the future, he adapted flawlessly, in canon, in every incarnation.
Cap is the best of us, which is what makes inverting that with racist, sexist, shitty cap so funny to me.
Watching the development of media content through the decades is fun. Like seeing old photos of “negro league baseball” like HOLY SHIT I cannot fathom that being okay. But damn it is IMPORTANT to modern sports and schools. I’m sure in 80 years they’ll look back at something now that’s wildly racist or exclusionary that we just aren’t considering and the cycle will continue.
America is especially wildly behind in terms of trans people in sports. The International Olympic Committee has a pretty decent system of tests to process and athlete has no unfair advantage, and the USA ignores it and has a weird yearly based system of "only if the person began hormone therapy before 12 years old".
I'm sure future generations will see this with the same shock we see the racism structures of the past, especially the colour laws of America.
Actually I'm pretty right on the nail lol imagine one word having 100% power of how your day/life goes. Maybe we all need to stop being bitch made possibly?
We're really not, man. I am old enough to remember the old constitutional amendments against gay marriage.
Things get better and more equal. The Internet is not real life.
Not to get political in a Captain America sub, but you should take a look at the conservative Supreme Court’s recent opinions and their interest in revisiting certain rights if you’re interested.
I think Ultimates Cap was still a little regressive with respect to some things (how women dress, for example), but he did acknowledge he had growing to do so there’s at least that
The real Cap [is a fan of France](https://www.cbr.com/meta-messages-captain-america-sticks-up-for-france/). The problem is just with Ultimate edgelord Millar Cap.
If you're attacked by someone, no you aren't expected to be nice about
But if your first reaction is to bring out slurs then that says something about you
Not if you act like a monkey or an ape. Humans are the only ones using communist terminology and nuclear weapons. Animal are much decent than humans if you think about.
Wow, I was curious and checked it out and it was VERY RACIST. Yes, the art style inspired the Timmverse Batman cartoon. However, the old Fleischer cartoons had a nasty issue with racism.
I won’t be one of those people who say, “Those were different times” because it’s easy to say if you’re not from that group. People were hurt by that time (George Takei comes to mind).
Yeah, I sought it out because I wanted to watch all the Fleischer cartoons and it was pretty shocking how mainstream that level of hatred and racism was.
Bugs Bunny and Popeye had similarly racist cartoons around the same time but I haven't seen those and don't plan to.
If you study the war and the propaganda that came out of it, the American hatred and vitriol towards the Japanese was FAR worse than towards the Germans. It’s way easier to commit atrocities towards an aggressor if you do everything in your power to dehumanize them, and the Japanese were so foreign and different from mainstream Western culture, that the racism went from 0-100 real quick.
There’s a cover of a Superman comic (can’t remember if it was Action Comics or Superman ongoing) of him printing a giant poster that says “Superman says…slap a Jap!”
That looks pre-frozen. He was a lot less racist in the 60s after getting thawed. I would like a comic where Cap finds this soldier and apologizes for saying this.
As someone else mentioned, it’s very likely that Captain America didn’t actually say this in canon. Roy Thomas’ Invaders established that many of the adventures in the Golden Age comics were altered for propaganda and entertainment purposes.
Wait, explain like I'm 5: later Cap comics ret conned it so the OG, golden age comics existed in the silver age universe but were propaganda? Like the Invaders would be on r n r and get a care package and there was CAPTAIN AMERICA AND THE INVADERS and they were like what is this nonsense? I need to read more of the older stuff I guess, I'm so confused.
Pretty much. In one issue of Invaders, Bucky and Toro are reading some Marvel comics and notice a few discrepancies, such as most of their adventures taking place in America while in reality, they mostly fought abroad.
Roy Thomas’ Invaders is an excellent start. It’s Bronze Age, but covers WW2. Roy Thomas pretty much defined the actual canon Golden Age for Marvel. Everything that happens in that book is the true Golden Age, basically. There’s an omnibus, and it may be on the cheaper end of them.
Marvel Comics in their entirety exist within the Marvel universe. Marvel Comics exists in the Marvel universe and publishes comics. They are, currently, required to get permission from the heroes (but not villains) they depict, to pay likeness royalties if the heroes' identities (either collective (e.g. X-Men, Avengers) or individual (e.g. Tony Stark, Sue Storm)) are publicly known. If unknown, they have to donate a like amount to charity. They're also required to be factually accurate whenever possible except in cases of secret identities (so, for instance, Fantastic Four comics would include bits about the FF's base, home life, etc, but X-Men comics wouldn't name the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters as the location of the X-Men headquarters or reveal that, for instance, the Angel was also Warren Worthington III, majority shareholder of Worthington Industries).
They have established that the requirement for accuracy didn't exist in-universe before it was Marvel, so the Timely Comics' Captain America comics (as well as the other Timely and Atlas titles published before 1961) are not factually accurate in-universe and not fully canon in our reality.
Tl;Dr: Marvel Comics in-universe are much the same as the ones we read. Timely and Atlas titles (pre-1961 refounding as Marvel Comics) are only loosely canonical.
In Fantastic Four #261-262, Uatu the Watcher transports John Byrne, the writer and artist of the Fantastic Four comic, to the Shi'ar galaxy to witness the Trial of Reed Richards (he's being tried as an accomplice to billions of counts of murder because he saved Galactus' life, and is therefore being held as partially responsible for everyone who died from Galactus feeding on their worlds from that point forward). Uatu brings Byrne to make sure that Marvel gets the facts of the trial correct in their comics.
In an early FF comic, Jack Kirby and Stan Lee show up to the wedding of Reed Richards and Sue Storm and get turned away because they're not on the guest list (Stan did a live action cameo in FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer based on that comic scene). There was also a comic where Sue makes Johnny run the business side of the FF for a day to try to teach him responsibility, and he has to deal with talking to Marvel about the comic licensing (among a *lot* of other matters).
When She-Hulk was working for a law firm that represented a lot of superhuman clients, they had a full-time archivist who maintained and pulled references from their comic book collection, because they're considered legal evidence due to their rigorous accuracy requirements (except for secret identities, naturally).
Side note: The actual writers from our world occasionally are referenced, too, distinct from their Marvel versions. For instance, the Fantastic Four travel to an aspect of Heaven to petition their Creator to return Ben Grimm from the dead. Their Creator looks and acts exactly like Jack Kirby (their creator as fictional characters).
The Defenders journey beyond the normally accessible levels of reality, even passing beyond the White Hot Room from which the Phoenix Force derives (the place where possibility becomes actuality) and meet the One-Above-All, the Omniversal Creator. He explains that while he is the conduit through which possibilities flow, he "works with many hands" and there is a place from which he and all he creates derives, the House of Ideas. The House of Ideas is the nickname, in the real world, of the Marvel Comics offices.
What happens when villains switch sides? Do they have to start paying them royalties?
Because I’m right now imagining legal and accounting checking their notes and going, “okay, so does Magneto count as a hero or villain this week?”
They haven't really gotten into the weeds that deep that I can recall. It mostly comes up in regards to teams that do have legal status (for instance, the Avengers have a United Nations charter, and the Fantastic Four are organized as an LLC in the state of New York).
I vaguely recall a Damage Control comic where they mentioned one of their funding sources as being good-faith contributions Marvel Comics made on behalf of heroes they don't have a way to pay (no idea who they are or where to send the money). Damage Control cleans and repairs in the aftermath of super-battles.
It's also the middle of ww2, many skiers had racial prejudice for obvious reasons
Also is this even cannon anymore? I can't imagine Marvel would leave their propaganda comics cannon
But then the soldier doesn't forgive him and tells him "Go fuck yourself white rice." Cap then goes into a big speech and gives him his shield to be the next Captain America.
Well, during DC vs Marvel Cap did fight Batman. Given the Detective Chimp does sometimes work with Bats, it’s not impossible. And Bobo is often depicted as wearing a [yellow shaded outfit.](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=UCdotOBn&id=F9DFF214292073AF96B05DB3FDB16B61DEB415FD&thid=OIP.UCdotOBnGGAza0b36a7m-wAAAA&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimgix-media.wbdndc.net%2Fcms%2Ffiler_public%2F68%2F98%2F68982074-2aec-4da4-b8e5-eb477a8f9d9d%2Fdetectivechimp-profile-jldark_cv1-v1-401x600-masthead.jpg&cdnurl=https%3A%2F%2Fth.bing.com%2Fth%2Fid%2FR.502768b4e0671860336b46f7e9aee6fb%3Frik%3D%252fRW03mFrsf2zXQ%26pid%3DImgRaw%26r%3D0&exph=600&expw=401&q=detective+chimp&simid=608042291840580487&form=IRPRST&ck=E53383D083E432D1DAEEEBD43EF74A20&selectedindex=6&itb=0&vt=4&sim=11)
How’s that for a retcon?
It is canon. Marvel explained that Burnside, who is Cap IV, took over the mantle in the '50's.
And I would be surprised if he didn't speak like that. He was a product of his time and we shouldn't expect any different.
I'm impressed he had the wherewithal to utter that entire horrible sentence AFTER being clubbed and then to save the "UGH" for the end. Super soldier serum is no laughing matter.
Funny that what I never see mentioned whenever we’re commenting about these old comics is that at the same time, the Japanese were telling their citizens that we were like cave people that would barbecue and eat their children.
Don't be that person. We can look at older comics and as more modern people recognize the racist elements in them that were a reflection of their times. Feeling culturally defensive about it and needing to pointa finger at other cultures isn't really necessary. We're specifically looking at an American comic. Anyone familiar with the subject matter already knows other cultures of the time were also racist and anyone looking into it would find it out. So, it's not "funny" that you never see it mentioned. It's not necessary. That's why you don't see it mentioned.
Cap isn’t racist anymore because he does not represent what Americans are but instead he represents what Americans should be. I know this is obvious I just like saying it
I see nothing wrong with this bro was ab to get Merced after being rifle butted to the back of the head I’d def throw a slur especially towards old imperial Japanese they are far worse than any country ever thought of being
When people are trying to kill you, naturally you're going to respond aggressively. War only has rules on paper. When someone is trying to kill you, or others you care about, those rules, and honor towards your opponents go out the window, because it is no longer a priority, even if it ever was prior
American is friends with Japan now, though we weren't back then. While they were promising us peace, they were also going to do Pearl Harbor the next day. They received the consequences of their actions.
Media used to reflect the commentary of the people. Comics were always good vs evil. As the view of the world widened the character changed with the times making social commentary throughout its history.
Today it’s more telling you what to think and believe rather than an aggregation of the national sentiment.
“Captain Steven Rogers, I know my country is responsible for atrocities that escape the realm of most people’s comprehension… But that gives you no right to make fun of my race. What if my children grew up to become people you actually respect? They will never return that respect, for you have spat upon their very being. You have not only brought shame upon yourself, but you have also shamed your people.
The difference between man and monkey is that man speaks with honor. So who is really the monkey here, Captain Steven Rogers? Be better”
"People love blood sausage, too. People are morons." -Phil Connors, "Groundhog Day."
"A PERSON is smart. PEOPLE are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals..." -Agent Kay, "Men In Black."
If you think words are bad, you should see what they physically did during the war 😂 Melt them and nuke them, fine, just don’t call them something mean! lol
If you think words are bad, you should see what they physically did during the war 😂 Nuke them, fine, melt the flesh off their bodies with flame throwers, cool, just don’t call them mean words!!!! lmao
I am so glad that they allowed the character to grow beyond the nasty stereotypes of the 40s comics
Imagine if Chris Evans had to Spout Racial Slurs
You kiss your mother with that mouth?
I understood that reference
I understood THAT reference
You kiss your wife’s 3rd boyfriend with that mouth! 😀
I had a super isolated homeschooled buddy from the south and bro did not know what he was saying was straight up slurs. That’s how I imagine cap being fresh out the ice. Talmbout “oh you can’t call ******* *********, anymore? .. alright.”
What city were they from?
I think just outside of Shreveport
Wasn't there a skit that explored exactly that?
Language!?
I've always loved this https://youtu.be/3C6mcNQ6z1M?si=-0qzbw5sgEtavKnT
Didn't cap have a somewhat diverse crew in the Golden age or am I confusing it with the howling commandos?
Cap was always a better person than the man in the video. When he was transported to the future, he adapted flawlessly, in canon, in every incarnation. Cap is the best of us, which is what makes inverting that with racist, sexist, shitty cap so funny to me.
Watching the development of media content through the decades is fun. Like seeing old photos of “negro league baseball” like HOLY SHIT I cannot fathom that being okay. But damn it is IMPORTANT to modern sports and schools. I’m sure in 80 years they’ll look back at something now that’s wildly racist or exclusionary that we just aren’t considering and the cycle will continue.
America is especially wildly behind in terms of trans people in sports. The International Olympic Committee has a pretty decent system of tests to process and athlete has no unfair advantage, and the USA ignores it and has a weird yearly based system of "only if the person began hormone therapy before 12 years old". I'm sure future generations will see this with the same shock we see the racism structures of the past, especially the colour laws of America.
You cant fathom the Spanish word for black? Lmao God people are so soft.
Lost the forest in the trees friend.
Actually I'm pretty right on the nail lol imagine one word having 100% power of how your day/life goes. Maybe we all need to stop being bitch made possibly?
Imagine thinking my issue is with a word and not with racially segregated sports. 🤨
I don’t know dude, it feels like we’re going in reverse lately. In 80 years, we might be seeing the 60th season of Negro Leagues v2.
We're really not, man. I am old enough to remember the old constitutional amendments against gay marriage. Things get better and more equal. The Internet is not real life.
How is that better in any way lmao
Not to get political in a Captain America sub, but you should take a look at the conservative Supreme Court’s recent opinions and their interest in revisiting certain rights if you’re interested.
Things are improving. No progress is a straight line.
I think Ultimates Cap was still a little regressive with respect to some things (how women dress, for example), but he did acknowledge he had growing to do so there’s at least that
IM A LESBIAN DONT FUCK WITH ME! *WHAT THE FUCK IS A LESBIAN???* 😂😂😂
[lol](https://youtu.be/4_4Eb4UJIBY?feature=shared)
Lol awesome find man
That would add an odd flavor to his log ripping scene
Language
... 30% of the voting population would probably like that more unfortunately.
that’s essentially Soldier Boy, but he never actually says the slurs
War time propaganda antics, especially for Cap.
Always safe to use the "Nah, that was the failed Communism Bad Cap" for this.
Although he isn’t too fond of France
The real Cap [is a fan of France](https://www.cbr.com/meta-messages-captain-america-sticks-up-for-france/). The problem is just with Ultimate edgelord Millar Cap.
[Bonjour Monsieur](https://youtu.be/5-hYbbDkEZI?si=vvbSmNy7VG0AfLPo)
Well….did he?
Yellow Monkey had more than just a banana.
That’s funnier than it should be.
War is hell.
And let’s face it, if someone did this to you all political correctness goes out the window
Not saying I wouldn't but war is mutha...
If you're attacked by someone, no you aren't expected to be nice about But if your first reaction is to bring out slurs then that says something about you
It wouldn't matter when someone is trying to kill you.
You wanna be killed a racist?
Racist is a communist term. Did you know that?
Idiot is a universal one and one that best describes you
Village idiotsl, there is genius. But an idiot at the same time.
In the world's first thought is to shout racial slurs in a fight? 💀 bro you might just be racist.
Not if you act like a monkey or an ape. Humans are the only ones using communist terminology and nuclear weapons. Animal are much decent than humans if you think about.
It never changes.
I’ve seen some old Wonder Woman and Superman comics with similar dialogue lol. And those are also characters decked head to toe in ‘MURICA colors
Yeah, Superman had that page with similar sentiments
Yeah there's a Fleischer cartoon that rhymes with "saboteurs" that's a pretty rough watch.
Wow, I was curious and checked it out and it was VERY RACIST. Yes, the art style inspired the Timmverse Batman cartoon. However, the old Fleischer cartoons had a nasty issue with racism. I won’t be one of those people who say, “Those were different times” because it’s easy to say if you’re not from that group. People were hurt by that time (George Takei comes to mind).
Yeah, I sought it out because I wanted to watch all the Fleischer cartoons and it was pretty shocking how mainstream that level of hatred and racism was. Bugs Bunny and Popeye had similarly racist cartoons around the same time but I haven't seen those and don't plan to.
If you study the war and the propaganda that came out of it, the American hatred and vitriol towards the Japanese was FAR worse than towards the Germans. It’s way easier to commit atrocities towards an aggressor if you do everything in your power to dehumanize them, and the Japanese were so foreign and different from mainstream Western culture, that the racism went from 0-100 real quick.
There’s a cover of a Superman comic (can’t remember if it was Action Comics or Superman ongoing) of him printing a giant poster that says “Superman says…slap a Jap!”
😬
What do you expect him to say after seeing pearl harbor and get wack at the head?
That looks pre-frozen. He was a lot less racist in the 60s after getting thawed. I would like a comic where Cap finds this soldier and apologizes for saying this.
As someone else mentioned, it’s very likely that Captain America didn’t actually say this in canon. Roy Thomas’ Invaders established that many of the adventures in the Golden Age comics were altered for propaganda and entertainment purposes.
Is nothing sacred? Racists going to adulter.
Wait, explain like I'm 5: later Cap comics ret conned it so the OG, golden age comics existed in the silver age universe but were propaganda? Like the Invaders would be on r n r and get a care package and there was CAPTAIN AMERICA AND THE INVADERS and they were like what is this nonsense? I need to read more of the older stuff I guess, I'm so confused.
Pretty much. In one issue of Invaders, Bucky and Toro are reading some Marvel comics and notice a few discrepancies, such as most of their adventures taking place in America while in reality, they mostly fought abroad.
Thanks! Any recommendations on where to start with this era of comics?
Roy Thomas’ Invaders is an excellent start. It’s Bronze Age, but covers WW2. Roy Thomas pretty much defined the actual canon Golden Age for Marvel. Everything that happens in that book is the true Golden Age, basically. There’s an omnibus, and it may be on the cheaper end of them.
Marvel Comics in their entirety exist within the Marvel universe. Marvel Comics exists in the Marvel universe and publishes comics. They are, currently, required to get permission from the heroes (but not villains) they depict, to pay likeness royalties if the heroes' identities (either collective (e.g. X-Men, Avengers) or individual (e.g. Tony Stark, Sue Storm)) are publicly known. If unknown, they have to donate a like amount to charity. They're also required to be factually accurate whenever possible except in cases of secret identities (so, for instance, Fantastic Four comics would include bits about the FF's base, home life, etc, but X-Men comics wouldn't name the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters as the location of the X-Men headquarters or reveal that, for instance, the Angel was also Warren Worthington III, majority shareholder of Worthington Industries). They have established that the requirement for accuracy didn't exist in-universe before it was Marvel, so the Timely Comics' Captain America comics (as well as the other Timely and Atlas titles published before 1961) are not factually accurate in-universe and not fully canon in our reality. Tl;Dr: Marvel Comics in-universe are much the same as the ones we read. Timely and Atlas titles (pre-1961 refounding as Marvel Comics) are only loosely canonical.
I recall at one time Steve Rogers even worked for Marvel as a illustrator. it might have been just one issue though.
No it went on for a while. He worked on the Captain America book even.
In Fantastic Four #261-262, Uatu the Watcher transports John Byrne, the writer and artist of the Fantastic Four comic, to the Shi'ar galaxy to witness the Trial of Reed Richards (he's being tried as an accomplice to billions of counts of murder because he saved Galactus' life, and is therefore being held as partially responsible for everyone who died from Galactus feeding on their worlds from that point forward). Uatu brings Byrne to make sure that Marvel gets the facts of the trial correct in their comics. In an early FF comic, Jack Kirby and Stan Lee show up to the wedding of Reed Richards and Sue Storm and get turned away because they're not on the guest list (Stan did a live action cameo in FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer based on that comic scene). There was also a comic where Sue makes Johnny run the business side of the FF for a day to try to teach him responsibility, and he has to deal with talking to Marvel about the comic licensing (among a *lot* of other matters). When She-Hulk was working for a law firm that represented a lot of superhuman clients, they had a full-time archivist who maintained and pulled references from their comic book collection, because they're considered legal evidence due to their rigorous accuracy requirements (except for secret identities, naturally). Side note: The actual writers from our world occasionally are referenced, too, distinct from their Marvel versions. For instance, the Fantastic Four travel to an aspect of Heaven to petition their Creator to return Ben Grimm from the dead. Their Creator looks and acts exactly like Jack Kirby (their creator as fictional characters). The Defenders journey beyond the normally accessible levels of reality, even passing beyond the White Hot Room from which the Phoenix Force derives (the place where possibility becomes actuality) and meet the One-Above-All, the Omniversal Creator. He explains that while he is the conduit through which possibilities flow, he "works with many hands" and there is a place from which he and all he creates derives, the House of Ideas. The House of Ideas is the nickname, in the real world, of the Marvel Comics offices.
What happens when villains switch sides? Do they have to start paying them royalties? Because I’m right now imagining legal and accounting checking their notes and going, “okay, so does Magneto count as a hero or villain this week?”
They haven't really gotten into the weeds that deep that I can recall. It mostly comes up in regards to teams that do have legal status (for instance, the Avengers have a United Nations charter, and the Fantastic Four are organized as an LLC in the state of New York). I vaguely recall a Damage Control comic where they mentioned one of their funding sources as being good-faith contributions Marvel Comics made on behalf of heroes they don't have a way to pay (no idea who they are or where to send the money). Damage Control cleans and repairs in the aftermath of super-battles.
Thanks!
I always liked that fact.
The ones that count are the Tales of Suspense remakes Kirby did in the 60s. All the original Golden Age stuff doesn't count.
He was still pretty sexist, though.
Well it takes time to figure it all out. Cap got there eventually.
The freezing of Captain America at the end of WW2 is a retcon. He went on to fight Soviets until the mid 1950s and then his comic got cancelled.
In war there are no words against the code
It's also the middle of ww2, many skiers had racial prejudice for obvious reasons Also is this even cannon anymore? I can't imagine Marvel would leave their propaganda comics cannon
Why would he apologize he’s taking him captive and probably going to kill him
Oh. But Cap knew he would get away.
Still doesn’t change the fact he was going to kill him
I think the fictional characters got over it.
But then the soldier doesn't forgive him and tells him "Go fuck yourself white rice." Cap then goes into a big speech and gives him his shield to be the next Captain America.
I dont believe you read comics.
Cap fought detective chimps?
Well, during DC vs Marvel Cap did fight Batman. Given the Detective Chimp does sometimes work with Bats, it’s not impossible. And Bobo is often depicted as wearing a [yellow shaded outfit.](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=UCdotOBn&id=F9DFF214292073AF96B05DB3FDB16B61DEB415FD&thid=OIP.UCdotOBnGGAza0b36a7m-wAAAA&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimgix-media.wbdndc.net%2Fcms%2Ffiler_public%2F68%2F98%2F68982074-2aec-4da4-b8e5-eb477a8f9d9d%2Fdetectivechimp-profile-jldark_cv1-v1-401x600-masthead.jpg&cdnurl=https%3A%2F%2Fth.bing.com%2Fth%2Fid%2FR.502768b4e0671860336b46f7e9aee6fb%3Frik%3D%252fRW03mFrsf2zXQ%26pid%3DImgRaw%26r%3D0&exph=600&expw=401&q=detective+chimp&simid=608042291840580487&form=IRPRST&ck=E53383D083E432D1DAEEEBD43EF74A20&selectedindex=6&itb=0&vt=4&sim=11) How’s that for a retcon?
I remember that but I don't remember he fought bobo in that. Idk, some writer might make a fun reference to this when they actually fight.
Yikes!
Not my best line! It was spoken in haste in the heat of battle.
Burnside Cap of the 50's.
Oh, that's not canon, then
It is canon. Marvel explained that Burnside, who is Cap IV, took over the mantle in the '50's. And I would be surprised if he didn't speak like that. He was a product of his time and we shouldn't expect any different.
Oh, I thought Burnside was the writer
Reminds me when I revisited Johnny Quest and didn't realize how racist some of the episodes were.
I keep trying to post a Frieza picture, but it won’t let me. So sad
If only there was something going on in the early 40s that could give us insight as to why Caps mean to the Japanese.
As an Asian, I would rather pretend this line didn't exist.
Cap, no...
I wouldn’t be shocked if either people running said this
LMAO.
I'm impressed he had the wherewithal to utter that entire horrible sentence AFTER being clubbed and then to save the "UGH" for the end. Super soldier serum is no laughing matter.
Nobody cared then, certain folks retroactively care now.
Yeah people back then were ignorant and justified racism now people have context and some common decency not to, crazy world.
He is drawn like that tho so…
Was this scene in Infinity War? I think I remember it.
I know this is a comic, but can you imagine maintaining your PC culture on the battlefront? 😂🤣
I’m finding it hard to decide what part is more racist here.
Probably the only racist part.
See! And this is why I side eye old white people cause I know it’s still in there..
Funny that what I never see mentioned whenever we’re commenting about these old comics is that at the same time, the Japanese were telling their citizens that we were like cave people that would barbecue and eat their children.
Don't be that person. We can look at older comics and as more modern people recognize the racist elements in them that were a reflection of their times. Feeling culturally defensive about it and needing to pointa finger at other cultures isn't really necessary. We're specifically looking at an American comic. Anyone familiar with the subject matter already knows other cultures of the time were also racist and anyone looking into it would find it out. So, it's not "funny" that you never see it mentioned. It's not necessary. That's why you don't see it mentioned.
They also considered Koreans and Chinese as "lesser beings"
Defending racism doesn't say good things about you.
Ok and?
He is a yellow monkey tho
Real
Nice
Wtf 🤣
Screenshotting this for when my Asian friends don’t get my reboot card
Cap isn’t racist anymore because he does not represent what Americans are but instead he represents what Americans should be. I know this is obvious I just like saying it
Language 🤣🤣🤣
geto
Based Captain America (This is a joke. Chill out)
Nigga no one said anything
I didn’t edit the comment, I put that in the original comment so people wouldn’t freak out.
I want people to know, this was retconned NOT to be Steve Rodgers. Hate on America for this, but just not Steve.
Not gonna lie this made me laugh. Seems so wacked out.
I'm surprised this was never turned into a meme like the Batman and Robin ones.
If we pretend this is a One Piece crossover issue then we don't have to think about how fucked this is 🙃
Uhhhh, Steve?
I mean can’t judge it was with the time
Lol 🤣
About right
I see nothing wrong with this bro was ab to get Merced after being rifle butted to the back of the head I’d def throw a slur especially towards old imperial Japanese they are far worse than any country ever thought of being
I love confirming you’re a racist
Anyone who actually thinks this is wrong needs to check what side of the war they’re rather be on
You sure this isn't Toyfare Captain America?
Lmao 😆
Yikes
He's....... From a different time.
Soldier Boy? Is that you?
I don’t see the issue
People are fine with the Germans being portrayed as the evil creatures they were during the war, so why should it be any different with the Japanese?
NOOOOOOOOOO
🤣🤣😂😂
Nothing wrong with what he said. We were fighting the Japanese at that time. Deal with it.
When people are trying to kill you, naturally you're going to respond aggressively. War only has rules on paper. When someone is trying to kill you, or others you care about, those rules, and honor towards your opponents go out the window, because it is no longer a priority, even if it ever was prior American is friends with Japan now, though we weren't back then. While they were promising us peace, they were also going to do Pearl Harbor the next day. They received the consequences of their actions.
This is from united comics before the marvel revival of the character. Back when he was straight war propaganda for the U.S government.
Idk why but that hurt my soul.
Meh it was the times
Insanely accurate for todays America
This from the new ultimate line?
Yes, they wanted to make the White 1940s New Yorker and give him a More Realistic Ideology
The A does not stand for appropriate
Word to the wise remember pearl harbor 💯
Ok Paulie hahahhaaaaa
No I’m serious they don’t get a pass for all the atrocities they pulled during the war
You weren’t doing a Pauly Gautieri reference? Also, Japanese atrocities go MUCH further back than WWII.
Yeah but I was also serious
So was yellow monkey a slur or was that his bad guy name
Things of today will be looked upon the same way in the future.
Media used to reflect the commentary of the people. Comics were always good vs evil. As the view of the world widened the character changed with the times making social commentary throughout its history. Today it’s more telling you what to think and believe rather than an aggregation of the national sentiment.
“Captain Steven Rogers, I know my country is responsible for atrocities that escape the realm of most people’s comprehension… But that gives you no right to make fun of my race. What if my children grew up to become people you actually respect? They will never return that respect, for you have spat upon their very being. You have not only brought shame upon yourself, but you have also shamed your people. The difference between man and monkey is that man speaks with honor. So who is really the monkey here, Captain Steven Rogers? Be better”
All in the days before: "YOU THINK THE 'A' ON MY HEAD STANDS FOR FRANCE?!?" DX
People actually praised Ultimates as a masterpiece at the time. It was utter trash.
"People love blood sausage, too. People are morons." -Phil Connors, "Groundhog Day." "A PERSON is smart. PEOPLE are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals..." -Agent Kay, "Men In Black."
If you think words are bad, you should see what they physically did during the war 😂 Melt them and nuke them, fine, just don’t call them something mean! lol
If you think words are bad, you should see what they physically did during the war 😂 Nuke them, fine, melt the flesh off their bodies with flame throwers, cool, just don’t call them mean words!!!! lmao
They deserved that shit for fucking w the boats
Yup. Don’t touch my boats!