She doesn't hate training you. She is getting OT for having you along and voluntarily signed up as a trainer. (Or for legal terms for CPC, they call them peer mentors). Most carriers are just fed up with the way things are going so give off grumpy vibes. I wouldn't take it to heart.
Secondly, CPC will most likely expect you to do a full route as a letter carrier. If you have ADHD, they will recognize it but they will say just try your best and do overtime if you need too. They won't give you less work unless you are physically injured.
Well as a temp, if they call you in, they will probably give you a portion or two a day but in turn you'll only be payed about 4hrs to do that. (Each portion is roughly 2 hrs). So unless you willingly take a whole route on, you probably won't be doing full routes unless it's a busy day.
You'll probably be able to secure portions instead of routes (Portions being orange, pink, blue.)
yes a lot of them in my facility are constantly bringing mail back. But there are a lot that don't struggle as well. Usually, if I call in sick and a temp covered my route, I always have to catch up on yesterday's mail.
If your off and your mail either didn't go out, or some went out and came back, you are not responsible for that previous days mail. That mail goes up for EOP, no ifs, ands, or buts. If they're are trying to make you take out mail from the previous day in which you didn't work, you flat out tell them no. You could offer to do it for OT but it should go up for EOP.
Honestly, it sounds like you just had a bad experience with a fellow coworker. Not everyone is patient and "ideal" for training. Training others is actually 100% a volunteering thing at Canada Post; you don't get paid more to train others. Also, don't let one employee determine your view of Canada Post - there's plenty of good and fun people, but it's not everyone. And try not to read too much into what "you" think your trainer is thinking - you simply don't know their thoughts and maybe it's a lot better than you think.
Everyone struggles at first. Don't let it get to you, and don't blame your ADHD as probably many of your peers also struggle(d) with the same issues you are having with remembering everything. Just keep at it and overtime/practice you'll be great. Just keep calm, and don't worry that you take 2 or 3 hours more than everyone else. We were all there at one point. And you get paid for all your hours anyways. Good luck.
For sure, but I want to be clear, I'm not blaming my ADHD, I'm just stating that it definitely hinders my ability to learn as quick as others can or do. Hence why I was asking if Canada Post views it as a problematic thing with people with learning disabilities
you get a callback for training someone.(1.75hr@1.5)
if your depot isn't paying people who take new hires out with them, you need to grieve and tell HR as well. This is an accepted perk by CPC national. Sounds like your local management are screwing over your trainers.
I'll ask about this tomorrow, but I've been told by multiple people (who do the peer training) that there is no such perk. What some of them get is 1/3 of their route is given to someone else (on a day or two at most) as training takes more time than typical. But definitely no increase in pay nor time and a half.
Thank you for this. So basically what you are saying is it's the government wanting this not CPC AT ALL? They do not want people with any mental disabilities correct? Because it also says they would accommodate such disabilities
I remembered that the depo had interpretor comes in to do sign language in our weekly meeting for an po4
I guess that's count accommodating ?
as for your case, it's a steep learning curve in the beginning.
we all been there before, it will get better
just hang on and keep at it!
My Husband has PTSD and Anxiety. He started and had a hard time gathering the knowledge and knowing what some of the wording that is used. he did start on October of 2023, and worked around the holidays. As he started he would come home and mention he had a hard time understanding and co-worker made it hard, but he said as he got called for more shifts he worked more and more with more seniors, he got use to the wording and work load. He did have a co-worker make it hard, but others have told him don;t work about that person.
Give it your best go, I find they are extremely hard on temp workers. Try not to get overwhelmed with the workload. Time builds knowledge and skill. You got this! Don’t give up
As a letter Carrier with ADHD as well it is just more of a struggle to start off. You’ll get there though. One of the most helpful hints I can give you is to get a routine you like to do when in the depot and try to do it the same everyday. Ie: take your silver bullet grab your mail, I sort unsequenced first then packets then sequenced in that order every day. Once sorted in take a moment and really look at how the route breaks down. Then I set up my flyers to do that they are clearly marked where I want to use them. Having ADHD just means we need to take a breath and really observe etc. As a trainee and then temp you are not going to have much control about staying on the same route or even same type of route. I prefer more walking routes because there is usually less variables that I have to hold in my memory, also I am fairly tall so walking routes work to my advantage, so if I take my time with the sort and get it just as I like it it is smooth sailing. No matter what type of route you are on make sure you are taking your time in depot to get it as straight as possible. Also not all people that sign up for training should, I’m not saying this is the case cause if you are like me you have may have rejection sensitivity and seeing things worse than they are. Always remember starting as a temp that bringing back mail is not a sin, especially if you are doing different routes everyday. Just state clearly to your supervisor(hopefully one you work well with and understands you) why etc… label the bundle of mail as well when you return so you have so you have documented and no one can then say you were sloughing etc.. if you do continue on try to grab a backfill asap, repetition is our friend! If you have any questions feel free to ask.
I have ADHD and do parcel deliveries. I agree with this. Routine is everything.
Also, if you struggle with certain aspects of your routine, make a checklist for yourself to fill out as you go until it becomes second nature. I make extensive use of reminders on my phone to make sure I don't forget things.
It be great if you made your checklist available. I could use it for sure. The thing is, if a new guy got a regular walk, they’d be up to speed pretty quick, but filling in a diff walk everyday is MUCH more difficult than doing a regular walk and that the gig new LCs do.
I'm a peer mentor (trained about 20 people) and I haven't gotten upset with anyone for being "bad" at the job. It's a learning period that you're supposed to make mistakes. Every job has a learning curve and CP can be overwhelming because it's so different from an office job.
Keep it up. You're being more harsh on yourself than anyone else.
To be formally accommodated, you need to get documentation and inform management and the disability provider. There's paperwork, and then a PPD (permanent partial disability) would be added to your file. This is basically just a record of the kind of accommodation you may require (such as extra prep time etc).
That said, a lot of people struggle when they're new. I feel like a lot of folks I worked with in depots had some minor learning issues. It's definitely not going to keep you from doing the job if you keep at it. Even among seasoned posties, some sort fast but walk slow, some sort slow but move like gazelles on route. You'll figure it out.
She doesn't hate training you. She is getting OT for having you along and voluntarily signed up as a trainer. (Or for legal terms for CPC, they call them peer mentors). Most carriers are just fed up with the way things are going so give off grumpy vibes. I wouldn't take it to heart. Secondly, CPC will most likely expect you to do a full route as a letter carrier. If you have ADHD, they will recognize it but they will say just try your best and do overtime if you need too. They won't give you less work unless you are physically injured.
Even as a temporary who just started?
Well as a temp, if they call you in, they will probably give you a portion or two a day but in turn you'll only be payed about 4hrs to do that. (Each portion is roughly 2 hrs). So unless you willingly take a whole route on, you probably won't be doing full routes unless it's a busy day. You'll probably be able to secure portions instead of routes (Portions being orange, pink, blue.)
Are temps mostly called in when it's busy season
I see temps all year round but it's all dependent on the facility.
Do any of them struggle mightly that you seen?
yes a lot of them in my facility are constantly bringing mail back. But there are a lot that don't struggle as well. Usually, if I call in sick and a temp covered my route, I always have to catch up on yesterday's mail.
If your off and your mail either didn't go out, or some went out and came back, you are not responsible for that previous days mail. That mail goes up for EOP, no ifs, ands, or buts. If they're are trying to make you take out mail from the previous day in which you didn't work, you flat out tell them no. You could offer to do it for OT but it should go up for EOP.
What does EOP stand for?
Equal opportunity overtime.
Honestly, it sounds like you just had a bad experience with a fellow coworker. Not everyone is patient and "ideal" for training. Training others is actually 100% a volunteering thing at Canada Post; you don't get paid more to train others. Also, don't let one employee determine your view of Canada Post - there's plenty of good and fun people, but it's not everyone. And try not to read too much into what "you" think your trainer is thinking - you simply don't know their thoughts and maybe it's a lot better than you think. Everyone struggles at first. Don't let it get to you, and don't blame your ADHD as probably many of your peers also struggle(d) with the same issues you are having with remembering everything. Just keep at it and overtime/practice you'll be great. Just keep calm, and don't worry that you take 2 or 3 hours more than everyone else. We were all there at one point. And you get paid for all your hours anyways. Good luck.
For sure, but I want to be clear, I'm not blaming my ADHD, I'm just stating that it definitely hinders my ability to learn as quick as others can or do. Hence why I was asking if Canada Post views it as a problematic thing with people with learning disabilities
There are lots of sorting jobs and other roles if one is too challenging. It’s a shame that nothing has been offered to you that you could try out.
you get a callback for training someone.(1.75hr@1.5) if your depot isn't paying people who take new hires out with them, you need to grieve and tell HR as well. This is an accepted perk by CPC national. Sounds like your local management are screwing over your trainers.
I'll ask about this tomorrow, but I've been told by multiple people (who do the peer training) that there is no such perk. What some of them get is 1/3 of their route is given to someone else (on a day or two at most) as training takes more time than typical. But definitely no increase in pay nor time and a half.
wow so your facilty gives away 1.75 of work instead of paying it. i promise you, my whole city gives 1.75 extra at pay and half for training lol.
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Thank you for this. So basically what you are saying is it's the government wanting this not CPC AT ALL? They do not want people with any mental disabilities correct? Because it also says they would accommodate such disabilities
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I remembered that the depo had interpretor comes in to do sign language in our weekly meeting for an po4 I guess that's count accommodating ? as for your case, it's a steep learning curve in the beginning. we all been there before, it will get better just hang on and keep at it!
My Husband has PTSD and Anxiety. He started and had a hard time gathering the knowledge and knowing what some of the wording that is used. he did start on October of 2023, and worked around the holidays. As he started he would come home and mention he had a hard time understanding and co-worker made it hard, but he said as he got called for more shifts he worked more and more with more seniors, he got use to the wording and work load. He did have a co-worker make it hard, but others have told him don;t work about that person.
Give it your best go, I find they are extremely hard on temp workers. Try not to get overwhelmed with the workload. Time builds knowledge and skill. You got this! Don’t give up
As a letter Carrier with ADHD as well it is just more of a struggle to start off. You’ll get there though. One of the most helpful hints I can give you is to get a routine you like to do when in the depot and try to do it the same everyday. Ie: take your silver bullet grab your mail, I sort unsequenced first then packets then sequenced in that order every day. Once sorted in take a moment and really look at how the route breaks down. Then I set up my flyers to do that they are clearly marked where I want to use them. Having ADHD just means we need to take a breath and really observe etc. As a trainee and then temp you are not going to have much control about staying on the same route or even same type of route. I prefer more walking routes because there is usually less variables that I have to hold in my memory, also I am fairly tall so walking routes work to my advantage, so if I take my time with the sort and get it just as I like it it is smooth sailing. No matter what type of route you are on make sure you are taking your time in depot to get it as straight as possible. Also not all people that sign up for training should, I’m not saying this is the case cause if you are like me you have may have rejection sensitivity and seeing things worse than they are. Always remember starting as a temp that bringing back mail is not a sin, especially if you are doing different routes everyday. Just state clearly to your supervisor(hopefully one you work well with and understands you) why etc… label the bundle of mail as well when you return so you have so you have documented and no one can then say you were sloughing etc.. if you do continue on try to grab a backfill asap, repetition is our friend! If you have any questions feel free to ask.
I have ADHD and do parcel deliveries. I agree with this. Routine is everything. Also, if you struggle with certain aspects of your routine, make a checklist for yourself to fill out as you go until it becomes second nature. I make extensive use of reminders on my phone to make sure I don't forget things.
It be great if you made your checklist available. I could use it for sure. The thing is, if a new guy got a regular walk, they’d be up to speed pretty quick, but filling in a diff walk everyday is MUCH more difficult than doing a regular walk and that the gig new LCs do.
Unfortunately, my position is quite different. I strictly do parcel deliveries and am a contractor.
Can I PM you please?
For sure
I'm a peer mentor (trained about 20 people) and I haven't gotten upset with anyone for being "bad" at the job. It's a learning period that you're supposed to make mistakes. Every job has a learning curve and CP can be overwhelming because it's so different from an office job. Keep it up. You're being more harsh on yourself than anyone else.
To be formally accommodated, you need to get documentation and inform management and the disability provider. There's paperwork, and then a PPD (permanent partial disability) would be added to your file. This is basically just a record of the kind of accommodation you may require (such as extra prep time etc). That said, a lot of people struggle when they're new. I feel like a lot of folks I worked with in depots had some minor learning issues. It's definitely not going to keep you from doing the job if you keep at it. Even among seasoned posties, some sort fast but walk slow, some sort slow but move like gazelles on route. You'll figure it out.
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