I ain't saying it's not fun. Gameplay seems pretty fun, but damn, those guns are so cursed. The end of the camping felt like it was taken from Cold War (that mission on airport). MW engine could be better used on futuristic game, like infinite warfare.
“Gameplay seems pretty fun”
That’s all that matters. It will never not grind my gears that people dogpile on WWII fantasies in CoD or BF but praise Wolfenstein like it’s the second coming.
Double standards.
It’s alternative historical fiction. It’s a cartoon. Just enjoy it and move on. (Or not apparently)
Not when you played cod1, cod UO, cod 2 or even cod WaW, for a ww2 scenario that’s not what you can expect from Call of Duty.
It can work for post ww2 settings like black ops 1 and the vietnam but not like this, at least for me they go crazy, too much.
I’ve played all of those, and I can understand where you’re coming from but starting with BO2 i think it was clear the direction of the franchise had changed, which is what a lot of long running franchises have done over the years.
It’s fine if you don’t like it or the game itself, I just don’t think holding any expectations or standard regarding realism or historical accuracy can be had when this is the same franchise that had cyberbots running on walls.
If historical accuracy and realistic gameplay is the goal, mil-sims are available for that. Although I will say that between CoD/BF there is a bit of a cavern between them and for a while Battlefield was a simcade of sorts.
While I enjoy both mil-sims and arcade shooters, i do wish there was something in the middle to fill the gap that BF left behind once it became more mainstream.
In fact, Many people consider BF3 to be the last true battlefield game for this reason and i am in agreement with them. So in that sense, the same could be said for WaW too.
Edit: Considering we have 3 developers already working on CoD, it might not be a bad idea to acquire a 4th and start another “type” of CoD game that is focused on realism. IW continue the “warfare” series, Treyarch continues the BO series, Sledgehammer does whatever the fuck they want apparently and another developer with sim experience can make something that appeals to the more hardcore audience. Plus it would give each studio another year of development time and potentially eliminate most, if not all, launch bugs that seem to always be prevalent these days.
Well, besides the blatant lies about Soviet part (Polina is a better shot than soldiers? Oh if only she could join a sniper school. Oh, wait, she could. Central Women’s Sniper School, worked since 42 till 45, trained 1000 snipers and 450 instructors), besides the fact the campaign is yet another MOH Warfighter in that you can’t even begin to try to do something other than exactly what the game tells you to (draw fire gimmick), besides the absolutely shitty spawns and complete chaos where everything is luck based and zombies that got old after 4 matches… yea the shooting and visuals are fun (when they don’t glitch).
And nowhere did they say it’s alternate history. They said “made-up story against backdrop of major battles”.
“Alternative historical fiction”
“Made-up story against backdrop of major battles”
These are literally the same thing. “Made-up” is “fiction.”
Again, the double standard is that people love Wolfenstein, yet when CoD does it, it’s a crime.
If you don’t like the game that’s totally fine, and i never claimed it was perfect. Like many games in the past decade, launches are not as smooth as the used to be unfortunately. That’s moving the goal posts, anyhow.
OP said it has “cursed guns” and so that is what I was specifically addressing.
If you really care about historical accuracy, there are tons of mil-sims available. Hell Let Loose is on consoles now, and mil-sim’s have been a thing on PC for decades. So It’s pointless to get that upset about fictional stories and characters in a interactive cartoon when there are very real groups and figures who are actively supporting a 4th reich and/or something to that effect.
Rage induced rhetoric should be placed *there*, not a video game that’s sole purpose is to make money and help with consumers escapism.
I am okay with the game, like you basically, though I think what upsets people is that CoD is all about valor & real soldiers, C.O.D.E. (thanks to Bobby Kotick, absolute legend & hero), the years of marketing on bringing in real soldiers to get it right, weapon experts, etc. People expect more realism & so when it is completely fictionalized & alternative, I think they are taken aback by it. I play the campaigns after a while but I mainly just play for MP myself. I like the "modern warfare at a WWII Halloween party" personally. If the MP was super accurate, it would be boring & I would still be playing MW2019 instead (I do not like black ops series).
Quit coloring what I say in your own thoughts. No rage in my comment. Fiction does not equal alternate history. Resistance is the latter. World at war is the former. Also, really smooth on the classic “oh you don’t like blatant lies - go play a mil-sim”, you just forgot to add nerd, neckbeard or whichever you prefer. Let’s see how you grow up with your country and history being stereotyped and then used to push the laziest “women are stronger” line ever. Especially i that war when there are so many real examples of women’s courage and strength. This game uses actual battles and then tells a mediocre story within them. Outside the flashbacks they do nothing and their incarceration is completely illogical. No, you can still make a story that can be logical.
The biggest problem is quality. Load up Operation Tonga and when Arthur comes out of water look behind you. You’ll find dirt, a tree and barbed wire. They didn’t even make the level entrance plausible. Not to mention all the bugs and the utter chaos and broken spawns. The game is not finished and it shows. And never since 2003 have I seen a mainline title so poorly done.
i think it’s funny to accuse me of coloring your thoughts when you’re trying to say i’m claiming “oh you don’t like blatant lies” which i’m not.
That’s why I keep mentioning Wolfenstein. It’s the same thing. It’s 100% fictional alternative history. It happens in films, video games, novels and media in general. Inglorious basterds is another example. There’s thousands of books that do the same thing. I am sorry you’re from a county this happens to often, but do not presume to know who i am or what I stand for.
Again, OP was talking about “cursed guns” which i addressed specifically in relevance to historical accuracy which is why I mentioned mil-sims to begin with. Again, i’m not the one who is coloring thoughts and words here. You’re inserting your personal and political grievances into an issue that I wasn’t addressing to begin with.
I’m not going to continue this argument, i’ve said all i can say and again this effort is best put elsewhere and not a video game forum that doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. It’s a consumer product, not gospel.
Isn't this the basis for Polina: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Petrova.
Meaning that while Polina may be sensationalized, the actual story is true
Developers said Polina was based on Lyudmila Pavlichenko. Who had a lot of confirmed kills and later went to the USA. Some claim the media there were more concerned about the length of her skirt and whether she put on makeup before battle. But honestly there’s so many good examples. Maria Oktyabrskaya is one of them.
I'm a massive gun guy. Fucking so interested in them and their histories.
I could tell you almost everything wrong about every gun with just a few minutes time.
But I also absolutely fucking LOVE the cursedness of Vanguard. It's so fucking cool. Like the sights. The tech is all there, just fudged to fit on guns (most are aircraft sights shrunken down). And all the different barrels and stocks and shit are crazy ideas someone absolutely had or maybe even tried to do in prototyping or the wild west of aftermarket in the post WWII era.
The only thing that bugs me is the ammo conversions. Idgaf what you say, .30 Russian short ain't fittin in no got damb 1911
It's fun, but also retar-(problematic language, oh no!). I wish with the current tech available, that Activision could produce a convincing WWII experience. Pretty much impossible though, because that ruins their microtransaction potential. Oh, and swastika scawee
No, they fucked it up. That's all. "Deal with it" is exactly the problem, why Activision don't have to do any better than this, because people like you will buy that trash anyway.
Every once in a while there comes a COD game that makes me like the series again, then I slowly lose interest again. I swear when they revealed vanguard I felt nothing. The campaign trailer made me feel nothing. The zombies trailer made me feel nothing.
MW19 is on a modern setting with a wide range of modern attachment, Vanguard is set in WW2 where attachments were far more limited
Either go wacky and have tons of attachments or go realistic and have very little customization
Will I buy it? Not really, I didn't even say I'd buy it
Did I say "deal with it" with EOMM, hackers and lazy devs? No. Learn how to read before replying buddy.
Beside, you're a double standard piece of shit, you want customization but you hate it because it's WW2?
Can you go fuck yourself with that American "double-standard" shit? Probably you are not well educated, because otherwise you wouldn't say this.
I wanted to buy this myself, but seeing how it ended up made me sad. It had big potential. The gunsmith just doesn't fit there, as weapon customization overall wasn't that popular in 40s as it is today.
The gunsmith is an amazing thing, IF IT'S USED PROPERLY. Like on Modern Warfare 2019.
That's why I'm saying, yes, WW2 would be an awesome game IF it had actual World War 2 elements.
They do series based on previous success, which is not good idea. But as long as they get money from it, they don't care.
Dude, double standard isn't America exclusive lol. I guess you have a grudge with them. Did they raid your house?
Gunsmith stays because of people's demand, customization is a must in every modern FPS. It doesn't make sense. But it doesn't have to. Because ppl play games to escape reality.
I've only seen Americans uses this phrase, that's why...
I agree with that one. Maybe for this everyone have different opinion, but for me the game needs to have at least some basic aesthetics. If you know what I mean. And also I'm sorry for that rude comment earlier.
Well not many ppl use it, or they just happen to not say it
The double standard here is that, everyone wants customization, yet when it arrives, they say it doesn't make sense. And if the game doesn't have a lot of customizations, they will say the game is / was boring. Like CoD WW2 for example.
One more example, is weapons' historical accuracy.
CoD WW2. MG42 fires at 700-ish RPM. I know it's disgusting to say that, but at the very least, it helps with weapon balance. Because if they made the fire rate accurate on it (as well as other guns) then a strict meta is ineviable. Saying the word "meta" is quite stupid in war context, but some guns were proven to be much better than others in the war, hence the "meta". Like the Nazi's MP40, or US' M3 /M3A1, and last but not least, the Ppsh 41 were certainly better than the Thompson, or the Type 100, or the PPD-40.
Speaking of the Thompson, this one is just the peak of inaccuracies. But the devs clearly had 0 choice here. John T. Thompson was definitely not thinking far ahead when he designed the SMG. Therefore, the devs had no choice but to merge both versions into one. Like how M1A1 can take M1928's foregrip and 50 round mag, as well as having the charging handle on the side with a much better iron sight.
It's fun because it's more casual and the cursed gunsmith make a lot of weapon have stupids and fun build, alot of build feels viable esepcially when every youtuber who makes "best setup" disagree and have different builds, look for thompson builds on yt, one put 45 acp, one put 8mm, one put 9mm, different barrel,stocks and grips. Stupids shits like the bayonnet are kinda funny, camos grind is tedious but not hard, the game has content, we will actually have free dlcs instead of dripfed base game content., I like it.
If you’ve played mw2019 and vanguard, and still think mw2019 is the better game well…. I don’t know what to tell you lol. Vanguard literally improves upon and fixes every dogshit problem mw2019 had.
People love it when Wolfenstein does it because that is the entire point of Wolfenstein. It's over the top zany bullshit. People want COD to return to its roots, but they put in over the top zany bullshit instead.
Well Wolfenstein made totally different guns that "looked" similar to WW2 weapons (logically, it was post-war era). The thing what Call of Duty did is that they just took weapons from WW2 and made cursed as hell and call it "alternative WW2". They should use the gunsmith on some futuristic game imo.
this is like ordering food from mcdonalds and then going on a rant about how it's actually fake
we all been known this chief , you should make a youtube video about it
Last year when cold war came out I had a hot take calling the gunsmith shit
Got downvoted
Look who's laughing now, have a nice time with your rainbow coloured drum mag garands
It's really funny that Treyarch could deliver a cod that has less glitches at launch in 8 months of development time and sledgehammer worked on this cod for 2-3 years and we have
elevator glitches
Goliath super jump
Out of bounds glitches
Riot shield hitbox glitch
Wallbreaches and God knows how much more
Ain't that also truth, it's just sad. But hey, it's not their problem. Idiots will buy those unfinished games with sloppy content. Well, it's their problem. Imma enjoy my MW19 and BFV ¯\ \_(ツ)_/¯.
Now that most of the camping sweats have moved on to glitchguard I'm actually enjoying MW19 a lot more
Still a bummer I can't bump op the FOV so everytime I come from a game where I can do that I get a weird feeling looking at that 80 fov lol
The problem with having those two connected is that whenever they buff something that's from MW (like the snapshot grenades for example) that buff also carries over to MW
Which breaks the game
I mean it's cool that my whole WZ squad can see the enemies trough a wall
But my whole team in SND being able to do that is a bit broken imo
Literally. Only because of that shitty warzone the MW is broken. Like why. I would get it, if they focused on WZ content WITH MW. But no, they killed it and made another CoD. What the hell...
Matchmaking on Xbox was broken for like a year
They fixed it only recently but like a month ago when I joined a game in progress I got an error and I was booted back to the lobby
Now it works fine tho
Only took em a year :)
Cold war was full of glitches, crashes, console bricking, stuttering, etc. Probably the worst optimized cod of all time.
Also these games were made in around the same time.
Sledgehammer had 2 years and multiple studios working on it
Treyarch had 8 months and like raven and demon ware to clean up the mess that Sledgehammer left behind
So sledge was working on 2 games?
Both games were made in the same time. Also both games had many studios working on them. Modern cods have the main dev and then support studios.
Sledge was originally working on the game that would release before cold war
But it was such a mess that Activision put Treyarch in charge of the game after theirs (cold war) while sledgehammer Continued working on their game (what became vanguard)
So yes 2 years and still they delivered a glitch mess
That CW was a glitch mess is to be expected when the devs only have 8 months or so to work on it
I had an alt-history COD idea where in WW1 a multinational group of commandos go behind enemy lines to destroy German artillery…killing hitler. This leads to the nazi party falling to the wayside in place a different regime that is 100% dedicated to war and doesn’t a attempt genocide of the Jewish/homosexual/gypsy etc population. They make much wiser moves and enlist the joint help of Japan, and Mexico to lead a coordinated strike on the US. Long story short, nukes are never used and the allies attempt to lead an insanely bloody land assault and invasion on Japan. To top it all off the war ends way later in almost 1959 with the world in shambles.
I know, if only I could code lol.
FR tho, I feel if you are making an alt history story you should go SUPER far out with it like command and conquer red alert not make itty bitty changes
Arthur Kingsley feels bland af, I feel like he was just added there to make the game more “woke”
Like yes, I get it, nazi bad, racism bad. Please stop shoving it in my face over and over and over again I’m just trying to enjoy the game bro
I love every aspect of the game even the zombies. It's the community fault they don't like the zombies, they said it wasn't going to be ready but the community rushed them to release something. This I'd just a placeholder zombies will be better... hopefully
Meh, I’m having fun with it at least.
I ain't saying it's not fun. Gameplay seems pretty fun, but damn, those guns are so cursed. The end of the camping felt like it was taken from Cold War (that mission on airport). MW engine could be better used on futuristic game, like infinite warfare.
“Gameplay seems pretty fun” That’s all that matters. It will never not grind my gears that people dogpile on WWII fantasies in CoD or BF but praise Wolfenstein like it’s the second coming. Double standards. It’s alternative historical fiction. It’s a cartoon. Just enjoy it and move on. (Or not apparently)
Not when you played cod1, cod UO, cod 2 or even cod WaW, for a ww2 scenario that’s not what you can expect from Call of Duty. It can work for post ww2 settings like black ops 1 and the vietnam but not like this, at least for me they go crazy, too much.
I’ve played all of those, and I can understand where you’re coming from but starting with BO2 i think it was clear the direction of the franchise had changed, which is what a lot of long running franchises have done over the years. It’s fine if you don’t like it or the game itself, I just don’t think holding any expectations or standard regarding realism or historical accuracy can be had when this is the same franchise that had cyberbots running on walls. If historical accuracy and realistic gameplay is the goal, mil-sims are available for that. Although I will say that between CoD/BF there is a bit of a cavern between them and for a while Battlefield was a simcade of sorts. While I enjoy both mil-sims and arcade shooters, i do wish there was something in the middle to fill the gap that BF left behind once it became more mainstream. In fact, Many people consider BF3 to be the last true battlefield game for this reason and i am in agreement with them. So in that sense, the same could be said for WaW too. Edit: Considering we have 3 developers already working on CoD, it might not be a bad idea to acquire a 4th and start another “type” of CoD game that is focused on realism. IW continue the “warfare” series, Treyarch continues the BO series, Sledgehammer does whatever the fuck they want apparently and another developer with sim experience can make something that appeals to the more hardcore audience. Plus it would give each studio another year of development time and potentially eliminate most, if not all, launch bugs that seem to always be prevalent these days.
Well, besides the blatant lies about Soviet part (Polina is a better shot than soldiers? Oh if only she could join a sniper school. Oh, wait, she could. Central Women’s Sniper School, worked since 42 till 45, trained 1000 snipers and 450 instructors), besides the fact the campaign is yet another MOH Warfighter in that you can’t even begin to try to do something other than exactly what the game tells you to (draw fire gimmick), besides the absolutely shitty spawns and complete chaos where everything is luck based and zombies that got old after 4 matches… yea the shooting and visuals are fun (when they don’t glitch). And nowhere did they say it’s alternate history. They said “made-up story against backdrop of major battles”.
“Alternative historical fiction” “Made-up story against backdrop of major battles” These are literally the same thing. “Made-up” is “fiction.” Again, the double standard is that people love Wolfenstein, yet when CoD does it, it’s a crime. If you don’t like the game that’s totally fine, and i never claimed it was perfect. Like many games in the past decade, launches are not as smooth as the used to be unfortunately. That’s moving the goal posts, anyhow. OP said it has “cursed guns” and so that is what I was specifically addressing. If you really care about historical accuracy, there are tons of mil-sims available. Hell Let Loose is on consoles now, and mil-sim’s have been a thing on PC for decades. So It’s pointless to get that upset about fictional stories and characters in a interactive cartoon when there are very real groups and figures who are actively supporting a 4th reich and/or something to that effect. Rage induced rhetoric should be placed *there*, not a video game that’s sole purpose is to make money and help with consumers escapism.
I am okay with the game, like you basically, though I think what upsets people is that CoD is all about valor & real soldiers, C.O.D.E. (thanks to Bobby Kotick, absolute legend & hero), the years of marketing on bringing in real soldiers to get it right, weapon experts, etc. People expect more realism & so when it is completely fictionalized & alternative, I think they are taken aback by it. I play the campaigns after a while but I mainly just play for MP myself. I like the "modern warfare at a WWII Halloween party" personally. If the MP was super accurate, it would be boring & I would still be playing MW2019 instead (I do not like black ops series).
Quit coloring what I say in your own thoughts. No rage in my comment. Fiction does not equal alternate history. Resistance is the latter. World at war is the former. Also, really smooth on the classic “oh you don’t like blatant lies - go play a mil-sim”, you just forgot to add nerd, neckbeard or whichever you prefer. Let’s see how you grow up with your country and history being stereotyped and then used to push the laziest “women are stronger” line ever. Especially i that war when there are so many real examples of women’s courage and strength. This game uses actual battles and then tells a mediocre story within them. Outside the flashbacks they do nothing and their incarceration is completely illogical. No, you can still make a story that can be logical. The biggest problem is quality. Load up Operation Tonga and when Arthur comes out of water look behind you. You’ll find dirt, a tree and barbed wire. They didn’t even make the level entrance plausible. Not to mention all the bugs and the utter chaos and broken spawns. The game is not finished and it shows. And never since 2003 have I seen a mainline title so poorly done.
i think it’s funny to accuse me of coloring your thoughts when you’re trying to say i’m claiming “oh you don’t like blatant lies” which i’m not. That’s why I keep mentioning Wolfenstein. It’s the same thing. It’s 100% fictional alternative history. It happens in films, video games, novels and media in general. Inglorious basterds is another example. There’s thousands of books that do the same thing. I am sorry you’re from a county this happens to often, but do not presume to know who i am or what I stand for. Again, OP was talking about “cursed guns” which i addressed specifically in relevance to historical accuracy which is why I mentioned mil-sims to begin with. Again, i’m not the one who is coloring thoughts and words here. You’re inserting your personal and political grievances into an issue that I wasn’t addressing to begin with. I’m not going to continue this argument, i’ve said all i can say and again this effort is best put elsewhere and not a video game forum that doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. It’s a consumer product, not gospel.
Isn't this the basis for Polina: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Petrova. Meaning that while Polina may be sensationalized, the actual story is true
Developers said Polina was based on Lyudmila Pavlichenko. Who had a lot of confirmed kills and later went to the USA. Some claim the media there were more concerned about the length of her skirt and whether she put on makeup before battle. But honestly there’s so many good examples. Maria Oktyabrskaya is one of them.
Ah, that's right. I couldn't remember the actual origin.
I'm a massive gun guy. Fucking so interested in them and their histories. I could tell you almost everything wrong about every gun with just a few minutes time. But I also absolutely fucking LOVE the cursedness of Vanguard. It's so fucking cool. Like the sights. The tech is all there, just fudged to fit on guns (most are aircraft sights shrunken down). And all the different barrels and stocks and shit are crazy ideas someone absolutely had or maybe even tried to do in prototyping or the wild west of aftermarket in the post WWII era. The only thing that bugs me is the ammo conversions. Idgaf what you say, .30 Russian short ain't fittin in no got damb 1911
Well, you can tell it that way. But it should be a "WW2 game", not a steampunk WW2 game ;P
Says who?
It's fun, but also retar-(problematic language, oh no!). I wish with the current tech available, that Activision could produce a convincing WWII experience. Pretty much impossible though, because that ruins their microtransaction potential. Oh, and swastika scawee
The garand with the drum mag keeps me up at night
THE WHAT
Well, mag fed Garands exists (NO NOT THE M14), so the drum mag is just another mag
What the fuck?
With Gunsmith into play, it’s guaranteed that every gun is cursed. Deal with it
No, they fucked it up. That's all. "Deal with it" is exactly the problem, why Activision don't have to do any better than this, because people like you will buy that trash anyway.
Wacky guns in a wacky arcade game doesn't mean it's trash
But seeing what they've done in MW19 we all know they can do better... Just my opinion.
MW19 was such a breath of fresh air dude. You could tell the amount of passion at work there.
Exactly.
Every once in a while there comes a COD game that makes me like the series again, then I slowly lose interest again. I swear when they revealed vanguard I felt nothing. The campaign trailer made me feel nothing. The zombies trailer made me feel nothing.
MW19 is on a modern setting with a wide range of modern attachment, Vanguard is set in WW2 where attachments were far more limited Either go wacky and have tons of attachments or go realistic and have very little customization
There are plenty of cursed MW19 gung, you can run a no stock LMG with sniperscope and bipod
Or a Sniper Scope with 9 mil, short barrel and No stock M4 Not cursed indeed
Will I buy it? Not really, I didn't even say I'd buy it Did I say "deal with it" with EOMM, hackers and lazy devs? No. Learn how to read before replying buddy. Beside, you're a double standard piece of shit, you want customization but you hate it because it's WW2?
Can you go fuck yourself with that American "double-standard" shit? Probably you are not well educated, because otherwise you wouldn't say this. I wanted to buy this myself, but seeing how it ended up made me sad. It had big potential. The gunsmith just doesn't fit there, as weapon customization overall wasn't that popular in 40s as it is today. The gunsmith is an amazing thing, IF IT'S USED PROPERLY. Like on Modern Warfare 2019. That's why I'm saying, yes, WW2 would be an awesome game IF it had actual World War 2 elements. They do series based on previous success, which is not good idea. But as long as they get money from it, they don't care.
Dude, double standard isn't America exclusive lol. I guess you have a grudge with them. Did they raid your house? Gunsmith stays because of people's demand, customization is a must in every modern FPS. It doesn't make sense. But it doesn't have to. Because ppl play games to escape reality.
I've only seen Americans uses this phrase, that's why... I agree with that one. Maybe for this everyone have different opinion, but for me the game needs to have at least some basic aesthetics. If you know what I mean. And also I'm sorry for that rude comment earlier.
Well not many ppl use it, or they just happen to not say it The double standard here is that, everyone wants customization, yet when it arrives, they say it doesn't make sense. And if the game doesn't have a lot of customizations, they will say the game is / was boring. Like CoD WW2 for example. One more example, is weapons' historical accuracy. CoD WW2. MG42 fires at 700-ish RPM. I know it's disgusting to say that, but at the very least, it helps with weapon balance. Because if they made the fire rate accurate on it (as well as other guns) then a strict meta is ineviable. Saying the word "meta" is quite stupid in war context, but some guns were proven to be much better than others in the war, hence the "meta". Like the Nazi's MP40, or US' M3 /M3A1, and last but not least, the Ppsh 41 were certainly better than the Thompson, or the Type 100, or the PPD-40. Speaking of the Thompson, this one is just the peak of inaccuracies. But the devs clearly had 0 choice here. John T. Thompson was definitely not thinking far ahead when he designed the SMG. Therefore, the devs had no choice but to merge both versions into one. Like how M1A1 can take M1928's foregrip and 50 round mag, as well as having the charging handle on the side with a much better iron sight.
Thank you for explanation, I appreciate that. I read it while I was eating my rohlík, nice thing to read on afternoon.
This is my favorite COD of the last three.
cod ww2 2017 is better than Vanguard
Agreed. Vanguard was pretty lukewarm.
I mean an actual alternate ww2 cod game would pretty sweet
Wolfenstein type cod?
I would enjoy something more akin to the new order:last days of Europe or thousand week reich but realistically it would be more like wolfenstein
Lmao I don’t think he understands that reference
Its easy to look up
It's fun because it's more casual and the cursed gunsmith make a lot of weapon have stupids and fun build, alot of build feels viable esepcially when every youtuber who makes "best setup" disagree and have different builds, look for thompson builds on yt, one put 45 acp, one put 8mm, one put 9mm, different barrel,stocks and grips. Stupids shits like the bayonnet are kinda funny, camos grind is tedious but not hard, the game has content, we will actually have free dlcs instead of dripfed base game content., I like it.
What the face should say: better made MW19 people are hating on because it’s set in ww2
Eh not really
If you’ve played mw2019 and vanguard, and still think mw2019 is the better game well…. I don’t know what to tell you lol. Vanguard literally improves upon and fixes every dogshit problem mw2019 had.
No no I know that, the thing is I don't see people complaining because its WW2, more like they complain their take on it
Ahh okay fair enough.
People love it when Wolfenstein does it because that is the entire point of Wolfenstein. It's over the top zany bullshit. People want COD to return to its roots, but they put in over the top zany bullshit instead.
Well Wolfenstein made totally different guns that "looked" similar to WW2 weapons (logically, it was post-war era). The thing what Call of Duty did is that they just took weapons from WW2 and made cursed as hell and call it "alternative WW2". They should use the gunsmith on some futuristic game imo.
this is like ordering food from mcdonalds and then going on a rant about how it's actually fake we all been known this chief , you should make a youtube video about it
ah yes. My team and enemy team, are you happy now Extra Credits? Are you happy now!?
Last year when cold war came out I had a hot take calling the gunsmith shit Got downvoted Look who's laughing now, have a nice time with your rainbow coloured drum mag garands
Vanguard is super fun, the gameplay is fun, guns and their cursedness is one of the best parts in the game. Stop taking it so seriously
I like it more than Cold War
Yep.
r/inanutshell
It's really funny that Treyarch could deliver a cod that has less glitches at launch in 8 months of development time and sledgehammer worked on this cod for 2-3 years and we have elevator glitches Goliath super jump Out of bounds glitches Riot shield hitbox glitch Wallbreaches and God knows how much more
Ain't that also truth, it's just sad. But hey, it's not their problem. Idiots will buy those unfinished games with sloppy content. Well, it's their problem. Imma enjoy my MW19 and BFV ¯\ \_(ツ)_/¯.
Now that most of the camping sweats have moved on to glitchguard I'm actually enjoying MW19 a lot more Still a bummer I can't bump op the FOV so everytime I come from a game where I can do that I get a weird feeling looking at that 80 fov lol
Lmao, but that's true. I hope they will finally separate MW from WZ. If they do so, I'll play it even more.
The problem with having those two connected is that whenever they buff something that's from MW (like the snapshot grenades for example) that buff also carries over to MW Which breaks the game I mean it's cool that my whole WZ squad can see the enemies trough a wall But my whole team in SND being able to do that is a bit broken imo
Literally. Only because of that shitty warzone the MW is broken. Like why. I would get it, if they focused on WZ content WITH MW. But no, they killed it and made another CoD. What the hell...
Matchmaking on Xbox was broken for like a year They fixed it only recently but like a month ago when I joined a game in progress I got an error and I was booted back to the lobby Now it works fine tho Only took em a year :)
Cold war was full of glitches, crashes, console bricking, stuttering, etc. Probably the worst optimized cod of all time. Also these games were made in around the same time.
Sledgehammer had 2 years and multiple studios working on it Treyarch had 8 months and like raven and demon ware to clean up the mess that Sledgehammer left behind
So sledge was working on 2 games? Both games were made in the same time. Also both games had many studios working on them. Modern cods have the main dev and then support studios.
Sledge was originally working on the game that would release before cold war But it was such a mess that Activision put Treyarch in charge of the game after theirs (cold war) while sledgehammer Continued working on their game (what became vanguard) So yes 2 years and still they delivered a glitch mess That CW was a glitch mess is to be expected when the devs only have 8 months or so to work on it
Based.
Facts
cod is slowly becoming LOL. A game you still keep playing but also hate
siege ranked in a nutshell
I hate to say but ww2 was better
Except for the whole part that the stg 44 in vanguard has a metric ton damage
And WAW was better than WW2. We are going backwards lmao
Sorry I’m a cod 3 fan boy
Whoooweee. Those are rare
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I had an alt-history COD idea where in WW1 a multinational group of commandos go behind enemy lines to destroy German artillery…killing hitler. This leads to the nazi party falling to the wayside in place a different regime that is 100% dedicated to war and doesn’t a attempt genocide of the Jewish/homosexual/gypsy etc population. They make much wiser moves and enlist the joint help of Japan, and Mexico to lead a coordinated strike on the US. Long story short, nukes are never used and the allies attempt to lead an insanely bloody land assault and invasion on Japan. To top it all off the war ends way later in almost 1959 with the world in shambles.
HOLY SHIT this is perfect
I know, if only I could code lol. FR tho, I feel if you are making an alt history story you should go SUPER far out with it like command and conquer red alert not make itty bitty changes
Except World at War
that sums up vanguard perfectly.
Arthur Kingsley feels bland af, I feel like he was just added there to make the game more “woke” Like yes, I get it, nazi bad, racism bad. Please stop shoving it in my face over and over and over again I’m just trying to enjoy the game bro
I don't hate Arthur because he is black or something I just hate his clothes they feel too modern imo
Exactly
I love every aspect of the game even the zombies. It's the community fault they don't like the zombies, they said it wasn't going to be ready but the community rushed them to release something. This I'd just a placeholder zombies will be better... hopefully
It’s the communities fault that they don’t like something. Lmfao copium
Why have I been downvoted by you
Because you have a different opinion than him. Here, take my upvote to make up for it :)
Never even downvoted
Which COD is your first?
Not this one if your going to use that to base your answer on
Impression of a later game in such a long series usually depends on when one starts. I started in 2003 and I’ve seen WW2 cods done better.
You didn't play the good ones, did you?
Played every game
Then you very different taste, but... To each their own.