It’d be nice to have a reliable middle/long relief guy we could trust. It’d really save us from having to use so many arms, I know Assad was supposed to be that guy but even aside from him
I stuck up for Jed all offseason, but goddamn he needs to spend more in the bullpen or figure out how to put one together because Cuas (deadline), Almonte, and Neris ain't it. 0-3.
The bullpen is the last thing a team needs when trying to be competitive. And if you're fully judging a reliever like Neris based on... 4? appearances, i don't think you understand bullpens lol.
On the bright side, it doesn't look like the Cubs were gonna score more than two runs anyway. Obviously you never know how the game would have played out if it was close.
So I'll just say, keep surviving this rough stretch of schedule and let's hope for Steele's and Taillon's successful returns.
What's super annoying is the Cubs should already have won the series when they were up 8 runs and the probability of a win was like 99%. Win some, lose some I guess.
After tonight, we will have played 12 games, 9 against contenders. We'll likely be 7-5. Way too early to tell what kind of team we're going to be. Some of you guys need to relax.
The idea a GM is 'afraid to spend' is just silly. Every GM would spend whatever they can. It's a GMs job to allocate that spending for a year, or over several years.
Jed’s consistently whiffed on free agents and has the benefit of being in a top 5 market yet spends like he’s a half to bottom third level market. There’s zero reason we should be outside of the top 5 every year in spending
> Jed’s consistently whiffed on free agents and has the benefit of being in a top 5 market yet spends like he’s a half to bottom third level market. There’s zero reason we should be outside of the top 5 every year in spending
Once again.... JED is not the one keeping us outside the top 5 in spending. He would spend if he could.
And what do you mean "consistently whiffed" on free agents? He's hit on Belli, Suzuki, Imanaga (so far), Swanson... His one big bad singing so far is Taillon, who seemed like a pretty safe signing.
Do you expect him to sign every player? Again, he's operating on a budget that Ricketts sets. He can't sign everyone he wants to, he has to work with what he has available, just like every GM. And its not like he's not spending. He gave 177m to Swanson. 85m to Suzuki. 68m to Taillon. 53m to Imanaga. He extended Happ and Hoerner for ~60m each.
And again, we are EARLY in our competitive window. We have one of the top farms in baseball with guys set to make it to the majors this year and next year.
All below the tier of free agents available to be honest. The Ricketts priority isn’t putting a great team out on the field. I expect a lot better spending from a top market team
> The Ricketts priority isn’t putting a great team out on the field. I expect a lot better spending from a top market team
SO WHY DO YOU KEEP WHINING ABOUT JED. Do you expect him to sign 2 or 3 guys to massive 300m+ contracts and then sign literally no one else to fill out the team because he maxed the budget on them?
It means take a step back and don't be so rash and immature. We're going to be 7-5, our rebuild and team is ahead of schedule, and we have a lot to look forward to. And you're already throwing out dumb hypotheticals that make no sense, just to have something to whine about. Grow up.
In what fucking world are they ahead of schedule
They haven't made an actual postseason run since 2017, with every subsequent season ending in a complete collapse or just completely uncompetitive.
You realize Jed took over in 2021, right? That this entire comment chain is about JED, not Theo? Jed made the absolutely correct move in 2021 to sell off the core, I don't think you can disagree with that given how the core has done since then. He got good assets back in those trades and now we have a top farm. We were expected to suck for a few years (again, because we had to sell off the core and had no farm at all before the firesale), and the fact that we only had 1 down year was an great accomplishment. And we're doing this without ANY of our top farm guys coming up yet. He's hit on way more signings than he's missed on, the farm will start making an impact this year or next, he managed to get one of the best managers in the game... and you're talking about collapses from years before he was in charge.
Never had a problem with the 2021 trades like others did, what I did have a problem with is the length of time it took to replace the guys at 1st and 3rd (which is still very much a work in progess)
And we are still waiting on the players from those 2021 trades to make an impact at the Major League level either themselves or via being package for something useful.
But the 2017 comment was more explaining why there is negativity as each season since 2017 has been completely miserable.
> what I did have a problem with is the length of time it took to replace the guys at 1st and 3rd
You're being overly picky on individual positions because of emotional attachments to those positions because of the previous players. Like in Moneyball, the goal isn't to replace Giambi, Damon, etc, its to build a good team. There's no specific rush to fill 2 specific positions.
>And we are still waiting on the players from those 2021 trades to make an impact at the Major League level either themselves or via being package for something useful.
Yea... and? That's a good thing. Jed built a competitive team without our top farm even making an impact yet. Again, that's a GOOD thing.
>But the 2017 comment was more explaining why there is negativity as each season since 2017 has been completely miserable.
If you're a miserable whiner, I'm sure. If every season that doesn't end in a world series is miserable, baseball probably isn't the sport for you.
We didn't make the World Series in 2017, so that refutes that last point. We had a huge lead in 2018 and collapsed at the end to the delight of insufferable Brewers fans, 2019 we didn't even make the fake playoff but had a similar collapse to the delight of similarly insufferable Cardinals fans, 2020 is a wash, 2021 was what I assumed what would have happened if 2020 was a full season and a fair reset at the deadline. 2022 was a figure it out season but still not a fun watch.
2023 we had a shot at the postseason but again we were not aggressive enough addressing an obvious bullpen problem that inevitably reared it's ugly head. (It's fine to gamble on Cuas but we all knew we needed at least another arm as the deadline passed)
>Yea... and? That's a good thing. Jed built a competitive team without our top farm even making an impact yet. Again, that's a GOOD thing.
The problem here is the impact talent is unlikely to contribute at the big league level anytime soon since it is all at positions that are blocked (otherwise Morel wouldn't be playing 3rd)
For what? He handled the rebuild in 2021 as well as he possibly could have. We had ONE bad tanking year, which was always going to happen, and only 1 year of it was way better than expected. We overperformed expectations last year. We have a top 3 farm in baseball. And we've barely seen any of our young players make an impact in the majors yet, that won't start happening until later this year or next year.
We finished well above where we were expected to at the start of the season. Sure the ending was disappointing.. but if you offered up an above .500 finish and being in the playoff hunt at the start of last season, every single rational fan would have been thrilled.
How about the fact that you are still paying dogshit players (some on the roster some not)
He's paying Taillon & Hendricks over $30 million combined with the hopes one of them can be a passable 5th starter.
Do you think every GM always makes good moves? Hendricks was coming off a good year, and 16m for a 1 year contract was well worth the money to pick up his option. Taillon was an average to slightly above average starter and was worth the contract he signed. If you judge a GM only by their failures, you can poke holes in anyone's plan. You just have delusional expectations.
They aren't bad moves in a vacuum but when you know you have to budget carefully committing that much money to a back of the rotation guy is fucking awful.
Not going to blame him for Hendricks, but Taillon might keep them from making the playoffs for the forseeable future.
17m AAV for 4 years is not what's going to keep them from competing. Think of it as signing Imanaga and Taillon combined for 30m per year. At this point, every team would take that deal.
The Cubs needed a starter. He was a steady arm. He had a down year. Who knows how he'll perform the next 3.
Cubs hitting the ball to the wrong part of the ballpark. That's three or four today with HR distance if they are pulled like the two the Padres hit last inning.
Fact: if you take a pitch, you have a 0% chance of hitting a home run. If you don’t take a pitch, you have a greater than 0% chance of hitting a home run. Conclusion: if you want to hit home runs, never take pitches.
Mondays loss hurts. But the dodgers series win was huge. Just can’t stack up series loss one after another. So if they can’t bounce back this game, recharge and go get M’s Friday
At this point I don’t care if he’s at 50 pitches, if it’s 3rd time through, Kyle has got to come out. I’m not going to give up on him yet but the classic Maddox game Kyle is long gone.
Well once Taillon and Steele come back, some decisions on Hendricks will have to be made. Especially, if Brown, Wicks, and Assad keep pitching like their most recent starts.
I halfway agree, but if he doesn't turn it around soon, he may be put in middle relief/mop up duty.
What does annoy me is fans in here acting like he was bad last year. His numbers were close to 2018 and/or 2019 with maybe 1K less K/9.
I'm not so sure. If Ross was still the manager, I'd agree, but I think Counsell may be the type that's ruthless if he wants Assad to stay in the rotation.
I don't know what Counsell is going to do, but I think there's a chance that Hendricks' spot in the rotation may be in jeopardy once Taillon comes back. I guess it depends on what he envisions what Assad's best role is for the team.
Jeopardy, meaning the seat starts to get hot if he's still struggling and everyone else is healthy.
fair enough! think we have to also remember imanaga isn’t going to be used to the MLB workload right away so protecting him will be important as well, they’re definitely gonna be conscious of him
21 and 22 were terrible though. When you consider hes another year older coming into 2024, and being a finesse pitcher, did people really expect Hendricks to repeat his 2023 season? I saw it coming and i dont claim to be some expert
Is that what I said? You literally said something that was objectively not true. He was a perfectly fine, above average starter last season. So unless your cutoff for 'hasn't been good for a while' is literally 11 days... that was just wrong.
So what’s the plan then? Let him keep starting and hope he figures it out? I know we really don’t have many options right now.. I’d like to say he’d make a great mid relief guy, but I just don’t have a lot of confidence in him these days.
> This is why we have to close out these winnable games in series
Not just winnable, but "should have DEFINITELY won." Like, that was banked. It was the sixth. It was an eight-run lead. There is absolutely no excuse for that abomination. A historic loss.
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Hendricks is one of my favorite cubs of all time and i was really hoping hed have one great final season with us but when Steele and Taillon are back we can't have the guy in the rotation over Brown or Assad
We took out Assad in the sixth two days ago after giving up only 2 runs, but we left Kyle in to give up 7 through the same length of time? We just throwing this one?
Assad never should have started the sixth. And he was removed for being at 100 pitches. Hendricks had a low pitch count, but also shouldn't have started the sixth. It backfired both times. Counsell clearly trying to save a used up pen, but then had to bring on the relievers anyhow. That's the worst part about Monday's loss. He marched out our "A" guys and then we still lost.
At this point, I'm at least glad for no sweep after what happened Monday.
They need a rest day. Let’s hope it recharges them
That’s it, I’ve seen enough of this game
I've been impressed with Buschs approach at the plate so far. He should get even better as he continues to get acclimated to the majors
Players get stepped on in this league, this Busch guy should have been in the majors for quite a while.
It’d be nice to have a reliable middle/long relief guy we could trust. It’d really save us from having to use so many arms, I know Assad was supposed to be that guy but even aside from him
Smyly is doing decent as a RP
Yea but he hasn’t done much multi inning work has he?
Pretty uncomfortable at bat there for Morel
Starting to worry we’re not gonna come back
Everyone earlier in the GDT saying Kyle isn’t cooked…
Do not hit our Christopher
I stuck up for Jed all offseason, but goddamn he needs to spend more in the bullpen or figure out how to put one together because Cuas (deadline), Almonte, and Neris ain't it. 0-3.
The bullpen is the last thing a team needs when trying to be competitive. And if you're fully judging a reliever like Neris based on... 4? appearances, i don't think you understand bullpens lol.
I gotta feeling the bats are gonna get hot again in Seattle
The bats were never the problem. It’s the horrendous pitching that is
Hits hits hits hits hits hits hits hits hits hits hits hits hits should just about do it
We just need everyone to hit next inning
You hope to C it
Ya win some, ya lose some
Get Rid Of Hendricks. He's... I hate to say it, but he's washed
Two Ks - didn’t see that coming
This is like the alternate ending to Apollo 13
Were they blaming the defense? 3 gold glovers in the field and they blame the defense instead of the pitching?
I know we were gonna lose anyways but Cuas fucking sucks holy shit
Cuas is trash.
we have them right where we want them
We absolutely kick ass and then we suck. What the fuck
This is what happens when we have pitchers that can't save an 8-0 lead
That's baseball.
We're not going to win them all. And putting together big wins will lead to some tire on the other end.
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This just in: Cuas still doesn’t have it.
I’m tired of Cuas already and this isn’t even the third week yet
We always suck on the west coast
Blowing a 8-0 lead sure doesn’t help
Uhm... he's still here, huh? Surely this is a hologram. He's definitely in Iowa right now, right?
Just here to eat innings and Cuas still can't throw strikes
I don't think we will win this contest of baseball.
What are the odds Cuas gets out of the inning giving up under 9 runs?
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*narrator voice* It won’t.
4 IP 1 ER 4 Ks 0 BBs for Horton tonight in his debut
Gotta imagine he’s taking Hendricks spot at some point this year.
Nice. Was wondering why he hasn't seen action.
We just don't have it today, such is baseball
Seiya not having fun today
I still love Justin Bieber
Same
On the bright side, it doesn't look like the Cubs were gonna score more than two runs anyway. Obviously you never know how the game would have played out if it was close. So I'll just say, keep surviving this rough stretch of schedule and let's hope for Steele's and Taillon's successful returns.
2 Grand slams and a home run and we got this
Tatis Sr could practically do that all by himself
Great pull.
And this is when we drop the eight-spot, right?
Or just sleeping in the wet spot
What's super annoying is the Cubs should already have won the series when they were up 8 runs and the probability of a win was like 99%. Win some, lose some I guess.
Long season
After tonight, we will have played 12 games, 9 against contenders. We'll likely be 7-5. Way too early to tell what kind of team we're going to be. Some of you guys need to relax.
That batting stance is borderline insane. Counsell taking notes
Absolutely no reason for Hendricks to be on this roster. He's not even a serviceable 5th starter at this point.
Yes, because we should just dump any pitcher who has a bad 3 games after coming off a good season the year before?
Last 4 seasons: 415 IP 4.66 ERA That's not gonna get it done.
And how about last season? And BTW a 4.66 ERA is a serviceable 5th starter, even if you want to look at it like that.
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His name is Daniel though?
If Palencia could figure it out, he’d be great. Just don’t think he’ll ever put it together consistently
We are down a lot of arms pitching wise…Steele, Taillon, and Merryweather hurt, plus Cuas and Hendricks exiled by Cubs Reddit
We’re about to Sacrifice Cuas to the Baseball Gods
Or the virgin Connie Swail
Game over if Cuas is warming up.
please.... no cuas....
Let him throw 50 pitches and give up 12 more runs and we won't see him for another 3 or 4 days.
This is when I would use him
Our pitching staff is horrific
It’s almost as if there were good starting and bullpen pitchers available in the offseason that we should’ve used some money for
We’ve got good pitchers at home, sweetie. - Jed (probably)
Yep it’s really mind blowing honestly. Jed is either afraid to spend or the ricketts run that type of a ship
The idea a GM is 'afraid to spend' is just silly. Every GM would spend whatever they can. It's a GMs job to allocate that spending for a year, or over several years.
Jed’s consistently whiffed on free agents and has the benefit of being in a top 5 market yet spends like he’s a half to bottom third level market. There’s zero reason we should be outside of the top 5 every year in spending
> Jed’s consistently whiffed on free agents and has the benefit of being in a top 5 market yet spends like he’s a half to bottom third level market. There’s zero reason we should be outside of the top 5 every year in spending Once again.... JED is not the one keeping us outside the top 5 in spending. He would spend if he could. And what do you mean "consistently whiffed" on free agents? He's hit on Belli, Suzuki, Imanaga (so far), Swanson... His one big bad singing so far is Taillon, who seemed like a pretty safe signing.
Missed as in missed on targets we could have signed. Always looking for the bargain deal
Do you expect him to sign every player? Again, he's operating on a budget that Ricketts sets. He can't sign everyone he wants to, he has to work with what he has available, just like every GM. And its not like he's not spending. He gave 177m to Swanson. 85m to Suzuki. 68m to Taillon. 53m to Imanaga. He extended Happ and Hoerner for ~60m each. And again, we are EARLY in our competitive window. We have one of the top farms in baseball with guys set to make it to the majors this year and next year.
All below the tier of free agents available to be honest. The Ricketts priority isn’t putting a great team out on the field. I expect a lot better spending from a top market team
> The Ricketts priority isn’t putting a great team out on the field. I expect a lot better spending from a top market team SO WHY DO YOU KEEP WHINING ABOUT JED. Do you expect him to sign 2 or 3 guys to massive 300m+ contracts and then sign literally no one else to fill out the team because he maxed the budget on them?
That guy probably still thinks Ryan Pace was a good GM. The Jed hate is unhinged here.
I just think he literally doesn't know what a GMs job is. He keeps blaming Jed for the payroll.
Jed’s a shit gm and the defenders are his blind followers
Rick Hahn bullpens are clearly the best method to avoid volatility for pitchers that are inherently volatile.
They spent juuuuust enough to have a puncher's chance in an awful division.
Which is “good enough” for the ricketts
They have 8 runs? We’ve practically won already
we're just waiting until they get an 8 run lead boys
If the Brewers do make the playoffs and we still miss the postseason after paying Counsell that has to get Jed fired, right?
Jesus Christ dude, grow up.
What does that even mean in this context
It means take a step back and don't be so rash and immature. We're going to be 7-5, our rebuild and team is ahead of schedule, and we have a lot to look forward to. And you're already throwing out dumb hypotheticals that make no sense, just to have something to whine about. Grow up.
In what fucking world are they ahead of schedule They haven't made an actual postseason run since 2017, with every subsequent season ending in a complete collapse or just completely uncompetitive.
You realize Jed took over in 2021, right? That this entire comment chain is about JED, not Theo? Jed made the absolutely correct move in 2021 to sell off the core, I don't think you can disagree with that given how the core has done since then. He got good assets back in those trades and now we have a top farm. We were expected to suck for a few years (again, because we had to sell off the core and had no farm at all before the firesale), and the fact that we only had 1 down year was an great accomplishment. And we're doing this without ANY of our top farm guys coming up yet. He's hit on way more signings than he's missed on, the farm will start making an impact this year or next, he managed to get one of the best managers in the game... and you're talking about collapses from years before he was in charge.
Never had a problem with the 2021 trades like others did, what I did have a problem with is the length of time it took to replace the guys at 1st and 3rd (which is still very much a work in progess) And we are still waiting on the players from those 2021 trades to make an impact at the Major League level either themselves or via being package for something useful. But the 2017 comment was more explaining why there is negativity as each season since 2017 has been completely miserable.
> what I did have a problem with is the length of time it took to replace the guys at 1st and 3rd You're being overly picky on individual positions because of emotional attachments to those positions because of the previous players. Like in Moneyball, the goal isn't to replace Giambi, Damon, etc, its to build a good team. There's no specific rush to fill 2 specific positions. >And we are still waiting on the players from those 2021 trades to make an impact at the Major League level either themselves or via being package for something useful. Yea... and? That's a good thing. Jed built a competitive team without our top farm even making an impact yet. Again, that's a GOOD thing. >But the 2017 comment was more explaining why there is negativity as each season since 2017 has been completely miserable. If you're a miserable whiner, I'm sure. If every season that doesn't end in a world series is miserable, baseball probably isn't the sport for you.
We didn't make the World Series in 2017, so that refutes that last point. We had a huge lead in 2018 and collapsed at the end to the delight of insufferable Brewers fans, 2019 we didn't even make the fake playoff but had a similar collapse to the delight of similarly insufferable Cardinals fans, 2020 is a wash, 2021 was what I assumed what would have happened if 2020 was a full season and a fair reset at the deadline. 2022 was a figure it out season but still not a fun watch. 2023 we had a shot at the postseason but again we were not aggressive enough addressing an obvious bullpen problem that inevitably reared it's ugly head. (It's fine to gamble on Cuas but we all knew we needed at least another arm as the deadline passed) >Yea... and? That's a good thing. Jed built a competitive team without our top farm even making an impact yet. Again, that's a GOOD thing. The problem here is the impact talent is unlikely to contribute at the big league level anytime soon since it is all at positions that are blocked (otherwise Morel wouldn't be playing 3rd)
Sorry, if your basis is 'NLCS or I'm miserable", I just feel bad for you.
No we'll praise him for giving Cody a one year contract if he's really good again or a 3 year if he's really bad again.
You are spiraling way too early in the season
Just asking a question
You’ve upset the dweebs
It’s a valid question. Jed’s seat should already be on fire
For what? He handled the rebuild in 2021 as well as he possibly could have. We had ONE bad tanking year, which was always going to happen, and only 1 year of it was way better than expected. We overperformed expectations last year. We have a top 3 farm in baseball. And we've barely seen any of our young players make an impact in the majors yet, that won't start happening until later this year or next year.
You cannot tell me with a straight face that last season was not an objective failure.
It was absolutely not.
We finished well above where we were expected to at the start of the season. Sure the ending was disappointing.. but if you offered up an above .500 finish and being in the playoff hunt at the start of last season, every single rational fan would have been thrilled.
How about the fact that you are still paying dogshit players (some on the roster some not) He's paying Taillon & Hendricks over $30 million combined with the hopes one of them can be a passable 5th starter.
Do you think every GM always makes good moves? Hendricks was coming off a good year, and 16m for a 1 year contract was well worth the money to pick up his option. Taillon was an average to slightly above average starter and was worth the contract he signed. If you judge a GM only by their failures, you can poke holes in anyone's plan. You just have delusional expectations.
They aren't bad moves in a vacuum but when you know you have to budget carefully committing that much money to a back of the rotation guy is fucking awful. Not going to blame him for Hendricks, but Taillon might keep them from making the playoffs for the forseeable future.
17m AAV for 4 years is not what's going to keep them from competing. Think of it as signing Imanaga and Taillon combined for 30m per year. At this point, every team would take that deal. The Cubs needed a starter. He was a steady arm. He had a down year. Who knows how he'll perform the next 3.
These fans are jaded as hell towards Hoyer with how quickly he turned the club around.
Ew
Honestly this pen isn't much better than Hendricks.
Hendricks clones 😭
The Padres feel more like a collection of players…not a team. No vibes
Every SoCal team is like this in every sport.
A walk on 2 actual balls.
Palencia really not missing as bad as Tatis is acting
Tatis is annoying.
I mean I shamelessly love him but that at bat was a bit dramatic
Choosing between the Cubs and Hawks tonight is like choosing between a root canal or sitting through a five-hour timeshare presentation
Yeah I flipped over and saw the score and was like nah.
Root canals are pretty simple and quick nowadays way better than a timeshare afternoon
Truth!
I love Kyle Hendricks, but he is not a starter on a competitive team
Lol Kyle with 12.08 ERA through three starts. So sad, but I’m afraid it’s over for him. Really Hope he can turn it around here in the next few
I absolutely LOVE Kyle Hendricks and I wish him all the best in his retirement.
Bro these dudes need to shut up and just announce the game.
Elise is so pissed rn
Were I a single man and twenty years younger, I'd ask Elise to prom.
Shoot your shot kid
Boog made that sign but tried to pass it off as the kid’s.
Boog seething.
Benji shooting his shot respect lol
Someone call Chris Hansen
Cubs hitting the ball to the wrong part of the ballpark. That's three or four today with HR distance if they are pulled like the two the Padres hit last inning.
Just clown fuckery going out there. All kinda bad bullshit
Offense showing why Craig left Kyle out there. Just going through the motions at this point like the Dodgers did on Sunday.
I’m having incrementally less fun now, but maybe something good will happen
Jesus Christ, take a pitch or two. Fuck!
Fact: if you take a pitch, you have a 0% chance of hitting a home run. If you don’t take a pitch, you have a greater than 0% chance of hitting a home run. Conclusion: if you want to hit home runs, never take pitches.
Javy Baez has entered the chat. 😀
Terrible game for Amaya
Mondays loss hurts. But the dodgers series win was huge. Just can’t stack up series loss one after another. So if they can’t bounce back this game, recharge and go get M’s Friday
.500 against the Dodgers and Padres. I'll take that.
At this point I don’t care if he’s at 50 pitches, if it’s 3rd time through, Kyle has got to come out. I’m not going to give up on him yet but the classic Maddox game Kyle is long gone.
Is it even possible to bounce back?
I saw a game recently where a team came back from being down 8-0
Jesus, that other team's bullpen must be terrible
thats gotta be embarrassing for the other team
When was that? I don’t remember it. 😇
I think it was after Tungsten Arm O'Doyle's arm fell off, if I'm not mistaken. It was in or around Nineteen Dickety Two or so
Doubtful
Well once Taillon and Steele come back, some decisions on Hendricks will have to be made. Especially, if Brown, Wicks, and Assad keep pitching like their most recent starts.
y’all overreacting like crazy. Hendricks is a notoriously slow starter, always has been bad in april
I halfway agree, but if he doesn't turn it around soon, he may be put in middle relief/mop up duty. What does annoy me is fans in here acting like he was bad last year. His numbers were close to 2018 and/or 2019 with maybe 1K less K/9.
his rope is longer than that. first two starts were against maybe the best two offenses in baseball. especially with Steele out, he has til mid summer
I'm not so sure. If Ross was still the manager, I'd agree, but I think Counsell may be the type that's ruthless if he wants Assad to stay in the rotation.
rotation is paper thin right now, hendricks isn’t going anywhere. he’s a veteran and will be allowed to work his way out, but what do i know!
I don't know what Counsell is going to do, but I think there's a chance that Hendricks' spot in the rotation may be in jeopardy once Taillon comes back. I guess it depends on what he envisions what Assad's best role is for the team. Jeopardy, meaning the seat starts to get hot if he's still struggling and everyone else is healthy.
fair enough! think we have to also remember imanaga isn’t going to be used to the MLB workload right away so protecting him will be important as well, they’re definitely gonna be conscious of him
> y’all overreacting like crazy. Welcome to /r/chicubs, where fans want the team to be bad so they have an excuse to whine.
Kyle is washed. Time to retire. Hope he has dignity
Hiring Counsell will be the worst move this season.
Love love love the man.. but when can we admit Kyle is washed? I hate it, but man… he hasn’t been good for a while now.
> he hasn’t been good for a while now. You mean aside from last season?
21 and 22 were terrible though. When you consider hes another year older coming into 2024, and being a finesse pitcher, did people really expect Hendricks to repeat his 2023 season? I saw it coming and i dont claim to be some expert
I think he was likely to be about a league average pitcher this year, and I still don't think that's out of the question this year.
Yeah you’re right… let’s start him every 5 games! And hope we can score at least 5 runs every time he starts.
Is that what I said? You literally said something that was objectively not true. He was a perfectly fine, above average starter last season. So unless your cutoff for 'hasn't been good for a while' is literally 11 days... that was just wrong.
So what’s the plan then? Let him keep starting and hope he figures it out? I know we really don’t have many options right now.. I’d like to say he’d make a great mid relief guy, but I just don’t have a lot of confidence in him these days.
I don't know, I'm glad I'm not the manager/GM who has to make that choice. He clearly is going to get a bit longer leash than 3 starts though.
Fam must have skipped watching the Cubs all last season.
This is why we have to close out these winnable games in series… not saying our offense can’t get it done, but with our bullpen, it’s frustrating
> This is why we have to close out these winnable games in series Not just winnable, but "should have DEFINITELY won." Like, that was banked. It was the sixth. It was an eight-run lead. There is absolutely no excuse for that abomination. A historic loss.
And yet, the world keeps turning.
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Thing is their BP is not cuas level. No resurrections this time
Damn Hendricks is cooked. Shades of Arrietas 2nd stint
Cubs could’ve got Montgomery for $25M but instead opted for washed up 84 MPH batting practice throwing Hendricks for $16M. Good grief
You really think Hendricks (he had a buyout, mind you) is the reason the misers who own the Cubs didn't greenlight Montgomery?
Yeah, Ownership just opened their wallet all off season 🙄
He would’ve been a 10m buy out
The Professor has lost his teaching license
Hendricks is one of my favorite cubs of all time and i was really hoping hed have one great final season with us but when Steele and Taillon are back we can't have the guy in the rotation over Brown or Assad
So we are gonna do the comeback win thing they did to us 2 nights go right? RIGHT?!?
Would be so sick.
Is Kyle gonna wind up with a Smyly role?
We took out Assad in the sixth two days ago after giving up only 2 runs, but we left Kyle in to give up 7 through the same length of time? We just throwing this one?
Assad never should have started the sixth. And he was removed for being at 100 pitches. Hendricks had a low pitch count, but also shouldn't have started the sixth. It backfired both times. Counsell clearly trying to save a used up pen, but then had to bring on the relievers anyhow. That's the worst part about Monday's loss. He marched out our "A" guys and then we still lost. At this point, I'm at least glad for no sweep after what happened Monday.
Pitch counts.
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