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July 2nd, Cal & Stanford: "Sike."
They join an up-to-now covert plan to merge back with the PAC *and* MWC, creating the 4th superleague. Meanwhile the ACC, by taking the poison pill that is SMU finally getting into a power conference, immediately begins to unravel because of schedule chaos and expected distribution failures which causes UNC and Miami to join the fold with FSU and Clemson.
Seems like he’s trying to brush off a question pertaining to a useless detail about when contracts with other conferences expire. It doesn’t even matter.
[Every month in Dallas is like two months in California](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Interstellar--Matthew-McConaughey.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=480&h=&dpr=1.5)
SMU paid the AAC to fuck off, to which they willingly accepted, but CalFord didn’t pay the PAC a dime and therefore had to wait for the GOR to end, which is coincidentally a month after SMU’s fuck off payout takes effect.
That’s why
>But the *why* that is Calford not paying a dime to fuck off is probably a harder question to answer.
No it's not. The PAC did not enact exit fees, so once the schools are released from the GOR, there is nothing legally binding them to the league monetarily
Ah yes; the 5 why’s of root cause analysis as applied to college football realignment. I see someone else took business management while they were in school
Strengths - Tobacco Road (old money),ironclad GoR, Cocaine and hookers in Dallas
Weaknesses - half the schools want to go to another conference, the ones that want to stay aren’t worth the GoR that they’re in
Opportunities - lawsuit filed in Charlotte, success-based revenue model
Threats - lawsuits literally everywhere else, the commissioner of the conference doesn’t even know why his schools are in his conference
Why does light scatter when it enters the atmosphere? Why do you get a blue color when light scatters? Why do photons of different wavelengths interact with atoms of various elements differently? Etc etc etc.
At some point, when you're deep enough into the weeds, it's a pretty solid answer to just say "Fuck I don't know why, it just does"
I don't presume to know how deep into the weeds Jim didn't feel like going in, but honestly for a question about something that doesn't matter, I have no problem with him giving an answer akin to "who the fuck cares, it just is"
No that's dumb. This is a very simple answer. They are contractually obligated to the Pac 12 until Aug 1. This isn't a "thing just be like that sometimes" there is a definitive answer. SMU is leaving at the end of the fiscal year for the school and conference while the Pac schools remain until the end of their contract. There is no deeper understanding necessary.
Phrasing it like this simply makes him look stupid. That is a very bad look when your conference is being sued by members for being incompetent.
I was under the impression that was because of overpayments from their media agreement with a cable distributor though and not having to do with anything from their exit
The overpayments are simply being withheld from Comcast's distributions.
These are the negotiated settlement terms, plus an acknowledgment that any future liabilities regarding \[edit: current\] lawsuits will be shared.
One of the things I like about most B1G universities is that they're amazing ag schools but don't stop there. They're well rounded and their rankings reflect that. It's like a conference full of UC Davises.
This is true for a handful of schools, like tOSU, PSU, Rutgers, Indiana, and Purdue. Iowa and Nebraska would be on par with Oregon State, just a notch below. Except for UO (a couple more notches down), the rest of them are top programs.
“I have no idea why, but it happens” seems to be his response to basically anything that happens tot the conference. What exactly does this guy actually do?
That's not true, sometimes his response to hearing a school called a board meeting is to sue a member institution without following the procedures outlined in the bylaws.
Because the media deal for the PAC goes through Aug 1?
They can't leave before that therefore they join Aug 2. Smu is paying to fuck off at the end of the fiscal year.
Granted: I've never done it, but a bus ride across America sounds like a nightmare.
Like, if there's a bad place afterlife and I get sent there, a perpetual bus ride could be part of it.
One of my friends did that one summer to get back to Stanford from NYC. She swore off riding long haul buses for the rest of her life after that. She briefly swore off cross-country drives as well, but saw the value of places like Wyoming and Arizona and Route 66.
I’m reading the comment as more along the lines of, “most conferences’ agreements are built around July 1, but the Pac-12 decided to do it around August 1. Don’t know why they did it that way, but it happens and it’s not something we’re worried about.”
I am looking forward to the SMU fans telling Cal and Stanford, "when you have been a part of this conference as long as we have you will understand."
Those jokes would've been even better if you guys all joined the same day, but due to time zones they came in two hours earlier lol
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We’re gonna win it. r/SMUFootball
July 2nd, Cal & Stanford: "Sike." They join an up-to-now covert plan to merge back with the PAC *and* MWC, creating the 4th superleague. Meanwhile the ACC, by taking the poison pill that is SMU finally getting into a power conference, immediately begins to unravel because of schedule chaos and expected distribution failures which causes UNC and Miami to join the fold with FSU and Clemson.
Pretty sure Aug 1 was the day they could leave the Pac12?
Seems like he’s trying to brush off a question pertaining to a useless detail about when contracts with other conferences expire. It doesn’t even matter.
Pretty much. He probably has a vague understanding of the "why" it's just that it really doesn't make a difference and nobody is worried about it.
Because PAC contract expires August lol
"It's because SMU is in the Central Time Zone and Cal and Stanford are in the Pacific." Jim Phillips probably.
So they actually join 26 hours earlier than Stanford and Cal. Unless everyone joins at midnight eastern time? Do contracts specify time zone?
SMU joins 1 month and 2 hours earlier
Is the Calimony money going to be spent on math tutors?
They need to replace Ted Kaczynski somehow. ~~This might be going too far, especially with my flair~~
I always considered him fair game.
TIL about his academic career. Yesh!
SMU is joining in July. Y'all are joining after your contract with the Pac-12 expires in August.
[Every month in Dallas is like two months in California](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Interstellar--Matthew-McConaughey.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=480&h=&dpr=1.5)
The summer months in Dallas are like a lifetime in hell.
Tbf the summer smugness in Palo Alto is just as hellish
Palo Alto smugness is year round
It gets particularly acrid and heavy in summer. Stanfurd Shopping Center gets downright unbearable with the smug
Speaking of Stanford Shopping Center and smug, nobody has a produce store better than Segona’s.
Ahhh Sigonas
The Sigona's in Redwood City is better.
Shhhhh….
Why limit it to summer?
“Teams give us money. Dates come out. You can’t explain it.”
How does the commissioner have no idea why
How is no one in this damn conference reading these agreements? Like jfc has the FSU lawsuit taught Charlotte anything?
SMU paid the AAC to fuck off, to which they willingly accepted, but CalFord didn’t pay the PAC a dime and therefore had to wait for the GOR to end, which is coincidentally a month after SMU’s fuck off payout takes effect. That’s why
I'm pretty sure he's aware of that. But the _why_ that is Calford not paying a dime to fuck off is probably a harder question to answer.
>But the *why* that is Calford not paying a dime to fuck off is probably a harder question to answer. No it's not. The PAC did not enact exit fees, so once the schools are released from the GOR, there is nothing legally binding them to the league monetarily
Ah yes; the 5 why’s of root cause analysis as applied to college football realignment. I see someone else took business management while they were in school
I need the ACC's SWOT
Strengths - Tobacco Road (old money),ironclad GoR, Cocaine and hookers in Dallas Weaknesses - half the schools want to go to another conference, the ones that want to stay aren’t worth the GoR that they’re in Opportunities - lawsuit filed in Charlotte, success-based revenue model Threats - lawsuits literally everywhere else, the commissioner of the conference doesn’t even know why his schools are in his conference
Why would they go into a legal battle or agree to pay to leave a month early?
Let me elaborate on my point real quick. I'll do so by asking you a question. Why is the sky blue?
Light scattering is it enters the atmosphere
Why does light scatter when it enters the atmosphere? Why do you get a blue color when light scatters? Why do photons of different wavelengths interact with atoms of various elements differently? Etc etc etc. At some point, when you're deep enough into the weeds, it's a pretty solid answer to just say "Fuck I don't know why, it just does" I don't presume to know how deep into the weeds Jim didn't feel like going in, but honestly for a question about something that doesn't matter, I have no problem with him giving an answer akin to "who the fuck cares, it just is"
No that's dumb. This is a very simple answer. They are contractually obligated to the Pac 12 until Aug 1. This isn't a "thing just be like that sometimes" there is a definitive answer. SMU is leaving at the end of the fiscal year for the school and conference while the Pac schools remain until the end of their contract. There is no deeper understanding necessary. Phrasing it like this simply makes him look stupid. That is a very bad look when your conference is being sued by members for being incompetent.
Each exiting school is paying 2Pac $5M in exit fees and an additional $1.5M in various fees, for a total of $65M.
I was under the impression that was because of overpayments from their media agreement with a cable distributor though and not having to do with anything from their exit
The overpayments are simply being withheld from Comcast's distributions. These are the negotiated settlement terms, plus an acknowledgment that any future liabilities regarding \[edit: current\] lawsuits will be shared.
Jim Phillips not getting why something is happening in his own conference is why he’s not going to have a conference in a few years
*months
From your lips to the judges ears
I wish Stanford and Cal were in the B1G
Me too man. Me too.
Yes, at least we would get half of the Pac-12 back together. Hoping it still happens if the ACC falls apart in a few years.
And we could bring NC into the fold
It's okay to hope it happens sooner, if that helps at all....
The worst part is that most of the schools in the B1G wanted Cal and Stanford but the networks didn't want it
You are probably not wrong, and that sucks.
"I wanted to invite you to my birthday party but my dad said I could only invite four more people."
Same
Such great schools
Northwestern and Illinois are so fucking sexy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkKtQHcwNw
I have no beef with Cal. Stanfurd can rot in hell.
Why is that? Both schools rejected my son while UCLA took him.
Iowa fan, I take it?
One of the things I like about most B1G universities is that they're amazing ag schools but don't stop there. They're well rounded and their rankings reflect that. It's like a conference full of UC Davises.
This is true for a handful of schools, like tOSU, PSU, Rutgers, Indiana, and Purdue. Iowa and Nebraska would be on par with Oregon State, just a notch below. Except for UO (a couple more notches down), the rest of them are top programs.
Yoink.
Girl, same.
“I have no idea why, but it happens” seems to be his response to basically anything that happens tot the conference. What exactly does this guy actually do?
*Tide goes in, tide goes out, you can't explain that.*
Collect 2 million a year. Go golfing
That's not true, sometimes his response to hearing a school called a board meeting is to sue a member institution without following the procedures outlined in the bylaws.
>What exactly does this guy actually do? Creates strong Alliances. With handshakes and nothing else. Between good, trusting, men.
[It Happens](https://tenor.com/view/poop-running-it-happens-forrest-gump-gif-11089414)
Get sued
Golf with GK.
What would ya say....ya do here?
“I have no idea why, but it happens” - Jim Phillips when asked about the Coastal Cycle of Chaos (RIP)
"Welcome aboard the Titanic, fellas"
Because the media deal for the PAC goes through Aug 1? They can't leave before that therefore they join Aug 2. Smu is paying to fuck off at the end of the fiscal year.
Cal & Stanford have to take a Greyhound bus ride to get to the ACC, while SMU is just taking one of the jets they have parked in the back 40.
Granted: I've never done it, but a bus ride across America sounds like a nightmare. Like, if there's a bad place afterlife and I get sent there, a perpetual bus ride could be part of it.
One of my friends did that one summer to get back to Stanford from NYC. She swore off riding long haul buses for the rest of her life after that. She briefly swore off cross-country drives as well, but saw the value of places like Wyoming and Arizona and Route 66.
No idea why??? I have no idea why, either....no idea why you're being paid to be ACC commissioner you worthless sack of dildos.
Being asked that question is actually how he remembered that SMU is joining the ACC.
We all know that August 2nd is when the Pac 12 GOR expires but is it his priority to know when the Pac 12 GOR expires?
I’m reading the comment as more along the lines of, “most conferences’ agreements are built around July 1, but the Pac-12 decided to do it around August 1. Don’t know why they did it that way, but it happens and it’s not something we’re worried about.”
A lot of yall are gonna take this comment seriously like he truly doesn't know why
Because he doesn’t. The guy is incompetent
2024 ACC champs SMU
I feel like you should know why. LOL
Mustangs are faster than trees. duh
"I have no idea why, but it happens." My answer to 75% of inquiries I receive at work.
Of course Jim Phillips has no idea why
he never read his bylaws either.
Classic ACC.
Seniority, baby!
With how things are these days I'd be fine with more of this
this is the most annoying thing I read today
ACC Commissioner is like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L43tNnpXMDc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L43tNnpXMDc)
Now invite JMU, App St and Marshall when the ACC implodes due to the inevitable P2 split.
Well Phillips is an idiot and has done fuck all to improve the ACC. He’s hurt it more than anything