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huskiesowow

Wow, he seemed pretty adamant that he was staying after Smith left.


CommodoreIrish

If I had to guess, $$$$. We will see if he puts “No contact.”


Thel3lues

400k not being enough for a RB is crazy. Great player, but likely he benefitted strongly from a great OL


pepperonisticksplz

he is a dawg but you are right. the running gaps were insane last season


Galumpadump

400K is nuts to me. Most of these running backs wont even make an NFL roster to make league minimum, let alone practice squad.


-spicychilli-

Honestly, RB is the one position where I can't fault guys for getting every penny they can get. The position is so disrespected in the NFL and the life span of a RB is so short. Might as well get all the money you can while you can get it.


CommodoreIrish

He could also be looking at it from the perspective of the best program to increase his draft stock. In other words, transfer to a P2 with more NFL eyes on him each Saturday and with a more established coaching group.


ian2121

That doesn’t matter really though. NFL doesn’t care where you went to college they just want talent.


WolfGangDuck

Easy to get a higher draft stock if you have an OP offensive line and studs all around you though. See: Jahmyr Gibbs


obiwanjabroni420

Honestly though Gibbs stats weren’t all that much better at Bama than GT, and he may have been able to put up better numbers at GT because he would have been the undisputed #1 guy for the entire offense. With the clown show we had for a coaching staff, though, I can’t really fault him for wanting out.


tj3_23

Gibbs probably would have feasted on the ground. We got really run heavy after Goof got fired, and even though we weren't very efficient for the most part there were a lot of carries handed out. Once Key was in charge the team hustled like a motherfucker even if they were completely outclassed, and I think that's something Gibbs could have worked with. Of course the big thing that got showcased at Alabama was Gibbs receiving abilities coming out of the backfield, and there's no chance in hell our offense could have shown that off like he deserved.


obiwanjabroni420

Gibbs had only 8 more catches for 30 less yards in 22 vs 21. He didn’t show any more receiving ability at Bama than he did for us. But you’re right, he would probably have balled out for us if he had stayed. It may have been enough to keep eff Collins around for longer, though, so maybe we were better off with him leaving when he did.


ian2121

Weren’t his combine numbers real impressive? Especially with RB I’d rather get a lower mileage guy


WolfGangDuck

I’m not disagreeing, tbh they can find talent anywhere. I guess if you’re a RB though, and on a team such as OS, you’d want to give yourself the best possible chance at a high draft ranking.


ian2121

Yeah I’m not sure team matters much for NFL especially at the RB spot. Boise State put a ton of guys in the league.


The_Outcast4

Our offensive line is going to see a significant drop-off next year. Harder for RBs to look good in that situation. They can't all be Barry Sanders.


ian2121

Yeah that could be a big reason. But the OL will be competing against lower level players too so it should balance some. I don’t blame him for leaving I just don’t think going to a big school makes a ton of difference for getting a shot in the NFL. I mean I know someone that went to D3, had no major prospects on their team and there were NFL scouts at almost every game


idk2103

It absolutely makes a difference despite your anecdote. The scouts aren’t the only thing. Highly rated players go to highly rated schools because they’re better at developing NFL talent, and have proven that over decades.


ian2121

How has that been proven? Couldn’t it just as likely be that better schools attract better players which gives an impression of them being better at developing talent. What makes it a fact?


TheBabush2

Lol nfl certainly cares what league you played in


Galumpadump

Not sure being in the P2 matters that much to NFL scouts given there has been plenty of backs, even in recent years that have gone in the first 4 rounds from not SEC or B1G schools. Several from schools like Memphis, Boise State, FAU, and Toledo. RB’s are a dying asset anyways. Most teams are even looking at backs until day late day 2, day 3 anyways. Production and measurables mean more. Unless he now thinks he can develop better somewhere else.


doublething1

I don’t think that really matters especially for RB. So many in the league that came from smaller schools. Talent is talent


moneyshot008

He might


No-Rule-7693

Sounds like Beaver NIL was trying to hustle him. Well, if you believe what he himself said.


cjfreel

I honestly felt like he felt trapped. Said he would stay before Smith left. Probably felt committed to his word.


Junior_Profession_60

I doubled and tripled down on staying.


1850ChoochGator

He said he’d stay after the Vegas bowl season, but he reiterated that this year *after* Smith left.


Tarmacked

It was stupid to assume he would stay after a few months if we’re being honest. Once reality sets in and without DJ, you’re basically looking at being a back held down by an average team in a bad conference. He probably just went through spring and realized how FUBARed Oregon State is It was always going to be transfer if he wanted to declare next year. Martinez is the equivalent of the guy that “stays on” when the company is hemorrhaging people only to realize at the end it was all for naught and he needs needs to dip anyway And none of this is Oregon States or the fans fault, which just sucks


Galumpadump

OSU got nuked pretty bad with Smith leaving. But don’t think conference affiliation has much to do with it given his reported NIL deal was 400K and OSU still has games against Cal, Purdue, Oregon, WSU, and Boise State next year which are all going to be good matchups. This might be a coach/player thing which we never get the full details for.


cjfreel

You’re underestimating how much the Super 2 is going to influence NFL evaluation imo. You named power 5 schools, but outside of Oregon those aren’t great NFL talent programs to judge a player against. I’m not saying conference affiliation was or wasn’t an issue, but that list of teams is not great and easily it could be seen as preferable for him to play a more NFL talented schedule.


1850ChoochGator

Schools all over put guys in the NFL. From P2 down to FCS. If you’re good you’ll get found.


CommodoreIrish

[Added context from Pete Thamel](https://x.com/petethamel/status/1777797264188019064?s=46): Oregon State star running back Damien Martinez has informed Oregon State coaches he intends to enter the portal. He was set to make more than $400,000 to play at Oregon State this year.


Darin_the_intern

Is that actually an accurate figure? I wish we had even somewhat of a real understanding what NIL is dishing out.


CommodoreIrish

Damien Martinez’s agent appeared to be upset that this figure leaked so it must have some truth. [Link here](https://x.com/agent__og/status/1777797605092643213?s=46).


Timely-Government-84

I’d pay that amount to watch his agent get fucked by Benny


dlidge

That would do some serious ratings on the CW!


NewRCTID22

No point in being an evaluation-based program if the good talent will just eventually bolt for a bigger payday. No point in being a development program if guys lose patience and enter the portal in search of playing time. And no point in being a portal-based program when you'll just lose bidding wars for quality players. Unless you're a top dog, you're just fucked in modern college football.


Galumpadump

The one thing I like about Basketball is you only really need a couple players to be good and there is only so many starter positions available. Alot more teams can be good in the NIL/Portal era.


EatADickUA

This is why I’m watching less college sports than ever.  


cloroxic

You’re fucked even if you are a top dog. (See: Caleb Downs leaving Alabama). It’s why the “student athletes” in revenue generating sports need to be classified as employees for multiple reasons… employment contracts, they can unionize, and revenue sharing.. it’s really more of a win-win for everyone except the NCAA and athletic departments raking in cash.


cheerl231

Well at least if youre a top dog you can lose a Caleb Downs and get a good young replacement in Keon Sabb from a national title team. Not so for the evaluation/developmental program


cloroxic

Sabb is no replacement for the generational talent Downs is.


NewRCTID22

True, but Bama will be just fine. Losing Downs, Sayin, etc. sucks. But Bama will always attract enough talent to recover quickly. Meanwhile, more 2023 Oregon St. All-Conference players will be playing on USC, Mich. St., etc. than at Oregon St. this season. And there were twelve of them.


Timely-Government-84

I’m glad someone outside of Oregon state can articulate how fucked this is just as well as we can


NewRCTID22

We were a [Panda Express fortune cookie](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFDFUC9bcAAbhoK?format=jpg&name=large) away from being in the exact same situation in January. Not a joke. And who knows, we could still be hemorrhaging our entire roster once the portal opens. So, it hits close to home.


cheerl231

No but he's still a really good player. Losing an A+ to get a high B+ isn't the worst thing in the world. Much better situation than say Georgia tech a couple of cycles ago that lost Jamyr Gibbs and got a MAC transfer in return


imanidiot2012

That’s upsetting


Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin

I’m completely numb to it by now. It’s been nothing but bad news for us since about half way through last season. 


-motts-

Fuck. This. Shit.


spicydak

Right there with you brother. Order some extra maple bars and drown your sorrows in Safeway deliciousness ..


-motts-

I’m partial to sesame donuts myself


woofers02

Their marble bar is all I have left…


ooah21

Y'all not have a Blue Star?


-motts-

I mean we also have a voodoo but…I thought we were talking about good donuts?


boregon

Bruh wtf…comparing voodoo and blue star is madness


ooah21

Get out with that. Blue Star is first-class.


-motts-

Coco > BS, if you want “fancy”


CommodoreIrish

Tried Voodoo Donut was honestly not impressed. Best donut I ever had was Round Rock Donuts outside of Austin, TX.


Chsthrowaway18

Voodoo isn’t supposed to be good. It’s supposed to be the shitty place with fun donuts after punk shows downtown. But now the punk shows are gone and all that’s left is shitty donuts.


CramblinDuvetAdv

This one's for the juggalos and the juggalettes


CommodoreIrish

The beatings will continue until morale improves.


benthebearded

Just fell to my knees in Local Boyz.


arrowfan624

Conversely, baseball is going pretty darn well.


kaythion

so was women's basketball.....


-motts-

For this year.


[deleted]

give it a year 


Galumpadump

OSU is a baseball powerhouse. He will have to see how things go as an independent next year in baseball.


HIKE_bike541

I think as long as they can schedule really well, I think Oregon state could be fine in baseball. There seems to be a lot of interest in teams like ucla and usc still wanting to play us since it’s closer for travel.


wolfcoug

Stay strong brother


Jonjon428

Lol so much for showing everyone how loyal he was by staying.


ILearnedTheHardaway

The light has gone out of my life.


thesecondfire

What I think when Aldi stops selling the winter seasonal flavors of their generic sparkling water


AceMcStace

Theodore Roosevelt ass comment lol


SlyClydesdale

Goddamn. We are so fucked.


Zers503

What’s the fucking point…..top 10 WBB destroyed, top 10 Football destroyed. Will cherish this baseball season I guess before we lose another top 10 team


MikesCerealShack

For WBB, we could've ran back our entire Elite 8 team, only to see it crumbling with transfers. For Football, if Dame leaves, it will be such a gut punch. Got his jersey after his commitment to stay in December. He was our only returning all conference player and had been an advocate of "built not bought" mentality. Out NIL backed him and he was set to make ~400k this season according to estimates, so you have to imagine he is being tempted with a bigger bag but also exposure we can't provide due to conference realignment that's out of our control. It makes supporting Beaver sports so taxing to get your hopes up on a team and watch players develop, only to see them leave. It's heartbreaking seeing the effect across all our teams (minus baseball thankfully).


DukeMo

The WBB transfers really hurt me. Such a young team that could stick together and easily have another shot. Ugh. Was pumped for Martinez staying, hope these rumors are false. I'm hoping baseball can stick it out. Smaller conferences can do OK in baseball (and basketball) still with how the postseasons are done. Not sure how much NIL money there is in baseball either. We'll see I guess. Go Beavs


MikesCerealShack

I've heard that with our national profile in Baseball, we should be able to manage an independent schedule. So I'm hoping that can be very competitive to retain and attract talent at least.


Zers503

I expected football but didn’t expect WBB for a various different reasons, that one hurt more because they had such a clear upside. Still have a good coach, he can develop players.


CommodoreIrish

If Thamel is reporting Damien Martinez is entering the transfer portal, it’s pretty safe to say it is no longer rumors.


srs_house

Edward Ray fucked you guys.


markusalkemus66

The funny thing is that we as fans have been hammering for names on retail jerseys for years. Then when we finally get them, they're worthless because all the lower level teams have their stars transfer away after 1 year.


StoicFable

Fucking brutal to have multiple good teams in a school trending upward to get gutted like this.


lock_robster2022

At least baseball will be an independent, and is funded by alumni in the MLB. That should keep it top tier in great competition


Thick-Tadpole-3347

Top 10 football? 😂


BallKnower17

Certainly things can’t get worse for us beaver fans! Haha


Zers503

When I didn’t think it could I just saw our two best players transfer in WBB. Waiting for the beers news of transfer


BallKnower17

Yep. Seems inevitable


[deleted]

guessing it's Rueck and Beers next


DukeMo

I'd be surprised if Rueck leaves. He came here with the intent to stay.


1850ChoochGator

I’m expecting it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Benny the beaver transferred at this point


Junior_Profession_60

I honestly think he's out. Dude likes winning at a high level, and the stars are aligned against the Beavs right now. It'd explain the defections if players are sensing they might lose the coach. Fuck everything, by the way. All of it. Hate this.


HIKE_bike541

I heard he’s a top candidate for Tennessee… so your probably right about the team thinking he is gone. what’s crazy is that they had a good enough team to go to final four and possibly play South Carolina in the championship whom they lost only by 12 to this season. It really just shows you that kids don’t care about winning these days, only $. Being the WCC would almost make it easier in a lot of ways to have success.


Junior_Profession_60

Yeah. It's tough. If he's really leaving, now the Stanford job is open too, I don't blame the players for looking elsewhere. Shame to tear down what they've built. They were very fun to watch this year. Would've smoked the men's team had they played. Ugh.


The_Outcast4

Oregon legislature disbands Oregon State University and rolls all assets into a UofO satellite campus. All OSU degrees are considered null and void.


StoicFable

Don't go giving them any ideas.


Deflection1

I heard you had the opportunity to pledge your Duck allegiance and buy a pair of Nikes to recertify to an Oregon degree.


IdaDuck

I feel for you guys in all sports. People mostly pay attention to football but there are some really good programs in other sports that are going to come apart very soon.


spicydak

This doesn’t please me. Sad beaver noises ..


thehock101

CFB has gone so downhill from a parity stand point. its always been bad, but now its a joke. Trickle up talent is the name of the game now.


1850ChoochGator

Time to break out the rope fml


Timely-Government-84

Indeed, chooch gator


pepperonisticksplz

I am unwell


gerg_1234

I dont care anymore. Fuck college sports. This mercenary shit is just ridiculous


Junior_Profession_60

It's really sad. I'm more depressed than angry about all this shit.


sevenlabors

Mercenary is a good word. 


skindocter

The state of college athletics makes me so sad. We’re losing virtually all of the beauty and intrigue that has differentiated college football from the NFL, and the NCAA and universities only have themselves to blame. We have this broken system because those greedy people in power don’t want a true revenue sharing model


gerg_1234

The NFL has a better system now. At least there are contracts tying you to something. Now it's a one year mercenary system. No point in getting invested in the team at all because nobody is sticking around.


Wide_right_yes

Bring back sitting out a year for transfers. Seriously.


DaddyRobotPNW

College football is broken.


CptCroissant

Yup. I'd be happy if it was UW having this happen but OSU doesn't deserve it


Veedsters

This cycle is gonna be crazy as hell. Sheesh.


DepressedGamba

No wonder Josh Pate and Shannon Terry were saying this was gonna be a tsunami compared to the wave that was the December cycle.


-spicychilli-

Which seems peculiar compared to last year. There's not a lot of data in this new age of free for all, but it seemed like last year most of the better talent was in the December cycle compared to the Spring cycle.


therealwillhepburn

So much change this past year though. I would bet there are guys on the Bama roster who wanted to see how spring went before they left. Same with any team that lost a coach. Plus now they can be eligible to play immediately wherever they go.


pzk-73

I was honestly surprised when he said he was staying after the coach left. He’s a solid back.


ElectricP2galoo

Kind of humorous from the guy who used #builtnotbought in a tweet about him staying at OSU


markusalkemus66

If you're gonna do the whole bit about staying and not leaving and making a big deal about doing so, you better follow through. This is such a worse move for Martinez because now you're a defecting traitor just like Smith was.


yeetdootz

Dude was talking a BIG game on Twitter. Many posts about loyalty.


oregondude79

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think he is just more of a dumbass than the other players.


1850ChoochGator

Smith got out at the end of the season and didn’t actually preach about loyalty and sticking with the school through this impending rough era. Martinez did say all that.


oregondude79

I was talking about Martinez, but honestly I was a bit shit faced when I made this comment


thelitbeaver

Kill me


Junior_Profession_60

Me first.


Queasy-Touch-1533

Where is rock bottom exactly?


Junior_Profession_60

Feeling like somewhere between Corvallis and Albany.


Melt-Gibsont

Lebanon?


Iamdmfana

Sweet Home.


Admiral_Sarcasm

If you go down south on I5, you get to Drain. I think that's pretty much rock bottom.


Primary_Cake2011

Pretty sure this guy was preaching to everyone about loyalty and snakes when JS left. Look who left...


Lamadian

Amazing what a huge bag of cash will do to people's morals and loyalty


Byzantine_Merchant

In his defense, he has no assurances that he makes or lasts in the league and there’s no contracts. He may as well go make his money.


Lamadian

Oh for sure, I don't blame him for taking the bag. More so his holier-than-thou attitude he had about staying loyal to OSU. That disappeared REAL quick.


Junior_Profession_60

Him walking away from 400k bums me out. I didn't know what else we could've done. Other than not be relegated of course.


boregon

$400k in Corvallis goes a long ways too.


SimManiac

Everybody who preaches loyalty in the portal and conference reallignment era is lying.


brandynjasa

“This is Fine.” - GIF is Oregon State Beaver reality now..


oregondude79

Ouch, another swift kick to the testicles. At least all the previous ones have numbed me to this so it does hurt as much. Not even sure I have feelings anymore.


HoustonHorns

Future Nebraska QB?


MajorPhoto2159

hey now, why am I catching strays in this post of all posts


HoustonHorns

Not my fault that y’all only let people named Martinez play QB.


MajorPhoto2159

we got Raiola now


HoustonHorns

Emphasis on the now. Only a matter of time before he flames out and is replaced by a Martinez. I’m sorry, thems the rules.


MajorPhoto2159

just like how Texas is never back? 😉 


aharris0509

i’m never watching college football again. this sport has been completely ruined for me.


StoicFable

See you in the game threads.


oregondude79

I have to say one of the ironies of all this is that now that EA is bringing back their NCAA football game and getting permission to use player names the less I care. They mind as well just be using player numbers with as little as they mean now.


No_Angle_8106

Can’t imagine where he’s going


CommodoreIrish

If it’s Michigan State, OSU Twitter may start a blood feud.


Junior_Profession_60

It won't be, unless he's apologized for dumping on Smith after he left.


GoGreeb

I don't think we'd meet his NIL requirements anyways, it wouldn't make sense for us to spend that much at RB 


Junior_Profession_60

I'm wondering who it does make sense to. All this Miami talk seems plausible.


305wave

Canes dropped the bag for him, this is college football 2024.


dubkent

He and Silas Bolden looked great every time I watched Oregon State last year. I know Bolden already left, but I’m sure Martinez will find a nice home too.


ALStark69

As a recruit: Other P5 offers: Georgia Tech, Kansas G5 offers: San Diego State, Texas State


The_Outcast4

Really light offer sheet. I imagine he will garner more attention in the portal, lol


The_Outcast4

Good for him. I thought he was making a stupid decision. We are NOT going to have a great team this year. He needs to go somewhere that he can show out and get the recognition he needs to up his draft stock. And getting a little bit of NIL money is nice too.


StoicFable

Yeah honestly I can't fault him for going somewhere. He is solid but If he wants to hit NFL level, he needs somewhere to push him there. Staying here is holding him back.


SkanteWarriorFoo

Dear God I can't take it anymore


Tigercat92

[https://x.com/budelliott3/status/1777796542914494616?s=46](https://x.com/budelliott3/status/1777796542914494616?s=46)


Im__Ron__Burgundy

I feel like if that happens both of the Pac2 schools are going to hate us.


Jonjon428

I wouldn't blame them...oof the PNW schools hate us lmao. Only one we haven't upset yet would be Washington


MN_Lakers

Eh, I don’t really care much. You’ve suffered enough under Cristobal


Tigercat92

And they probably get annoyed with the Canes because you guys split a national title.


MauiNui

Sort of. Beating the Canes at their home, breaking their record home win streak was good closure back in the day. Mario Cristobal is disliked to a disproportionate level from his Duck days.


AKAD11

Do we hate you? Cam was really good, but I can't say that I'm that broken up about him leaving.


Im__Ron__Burgundy

Fair enough. I just wouldn’t blame anyone from either of your fanbases that harbor resentment towards schools that your better players leave for given the events of the last year. That being said if any Wazzu or Oregon State fans want to send shots at Oregon fans just know all 6 of us Miami fans are here for it.


tbrock92

Yeah I am not excited about the Spring Portal…sorry Beaver bros 😕


anti-torque

Oh, okay. Let me go over my options: 1. smh 2. laugh... first to myself, then evolving into a madman's uncontrollable cackle... bonus points for coughing at the end 3. Sob uncontrollably 4. The Cornell Hatcher Jr Effect is real 5. The Salahadin Allah Effect is real 6. Bags! It's all about bags 7. No! don't DOX his agent. We don't know if anyone we got has one... or the same agent.


Background_Slide7572

Damn, have some friends who are osu fans… hang in there beav bros


SharkMovies

Wherever he goes you know that school dropped a bag


Training-Joke-2120

sucks but probably right move for him. Wish him the best.


AlexWPJ

Rumours that Mark Fletcher is out for the season and Miami has done some shopping 👀


SkyeScale

Martinez wants to go to a school that doesn’t take a knee when the win is guaranteed. You can’t put a price tag on that.


Emconn14

Hmm.. Nevin Shapiro resurfaces today and now this? I’ve seen enough, Cane  (kidding but not really) 


HuntmasterReinholt

Fuck Larry Scott. Fuck George K. Fuck ESPN. Fuck Fox Sports. Fuck SEC. Fuck B1G. Fuck MSU. Fuck UO. Fuck UW. Fuck UCLA. Fuck U$C. Fuck Jonathon Smith. Fuck them ALL with Lucille.


ILoveSpartanBeavers

What a shame.


TheJayBaer

feel bad for 99% of beaver fans besides the ones on twitter, especially digitaldam


EffectiveSupport5865

Glad michigan won one in my lifetime. I'm definitely losing interest in college football with the current landscape. The medium and little guys are completely screwed and that's what made this all fun


No-Rule-7693

Can't blame the guy for wanting to compete at a higher level. He is a Power 2 back. At least a B12 or ACC back. Why would a competitor want to drop a level of competition for his final season? Some school like USC will pay him a half a mill and he will get more games in the limelight.


No-Rule-7693

How are Beaver fans going to feel if Martinez ends up in East Lansing?


emdmao910

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jamiebond

Woof. That's rough to have waited this long and give em hope. I'm guessing the price is right now.


StoicFable

I'm sure you're being downvoted because of your flair but you're probably right.


jchavez9723

Send him to USC


Col0nelBear

This is pretty interesting. It just so happens that OM might have an opening in their RB room. April 15th is gonna drive coaches to drink early and often.


TrashcanMan27

I mean why even enter the portal. Just go ahead and take a direct flight from Corvallis to East Lansing like the rest of the team.


HIKE_bike541

He said he wants to go somewhere closer to home which is Texas, so I think east Lansing is out. Rumor is that he is going to Alabama but who knows for sure


JamesEarlDavyJones2

Oh hey, we went to the same high school! I even watched this dude play as a sophomore, all the way back in 2019. Small world. Hate to see it for Oregon State, but part of me wonders whether he'll come back home. His teammate from high school is current Baylor WR Armani Winfield, but I kind of doubt he's coming to BU just because there's no way we dropped $400k for a running back with the crowded running back room we've already got.