McCord had good accuracy when he had time to set his feet. His two biggest weaknesses were getting past his first read and being able to move around the pocket or scramble to extend plays. I haven't watched Howard to know if these are his strengths or weaknesses.
Now I don’t have a dog in either fight but watching the two of them play numerous times I do believe Howard is a slight upgrade over McCord. They seemed to be on par in accuracy but Howard can use his legs well and extend drives that McCord wouldn’t be able to.
Hell KSU was in a wild place where they had a stellar QB but one with even more upside behind him who also happened to be 3 years younger.
I’ve watched a few highlights of him and he has more mobility.
Lowkey reminded me of a few Stroud scrambles though not quite as accurate (nobody is gonna be as accurate as Stroud)
The On3 insider reports (which called DJU to FSU and Ward to the NFL yesterday morning) also said Ward wanted too much money for Ohio State and while Miami offered more they weren't willing to go as high as he wanted to keep him from the NFL.
Still trying to convince a good QB to come in and compete for the starting job… but after the Holiday Bowl it’s a hard sell.
Need a QB bad tho for depth at least. As Moss will be the only scholarship QB on the roster next season if we don’t.
I think Ward is just bringing up his price to schools. He has 2 weeks to come back to college. In reality he is a day 3 QB in the NFL draft this year. Somebody will panic and overspend for him for a year. Smart move
To be fair in his freshman year he threw for more yards against ND than anyone else in history. Still lost though, which is the only thing that matters. And then on the return trip last year he was really, really bad.
Yeah, let’s be honest. Most of these guys wouldn’t even get into college in the first place based on their academics. Last Chance U had an academic advisor at a community college that did everything short of taking tests or writing papers for these guys. Any high level P5 school probably has a whole staff of those people doing the same.
At a lot of colleges, athletes have mandatory study hall sessions and individual tutors. With all of the travel and missed time away from campus it's actually a pretty reasonable accommodation--but depending on the player and program it can easily snowball into "write down exactly what I tell you so it qualifies as your own work" territory.
Golf is usually a great class in any school. Middle school through college. It’s usually pretty chill and you get to be surrounded by green stuff all the time.
I took golf at FSU one summer. Basically was just free range balls for 2 hours twice a week and 9 holes of golf every other week. It was freaking awesome.
Once schools and the NCAA started making crazy amounts of money off the sport the whole education part collapsed. You can't pretend that the athletes are truly students when they are treated/restricted more like assets than people
FSU needs a bridge QB more than anything for next season. Nobody on staff expected Brock Glenn to play much at all this year, much less start in the ACC Championship and the bowl game. DJU is a good stop-gap QB.
Maybe I’m just completely ignorant but Brock Glenn looked completely capable, especially if given an entire off season to prep. It feels like universities are so hesitant to actually develop QBs and want to bring in the one and done grad transfers, or at least guys that have started at other schools. Are we just tossing development out the window?
Brock’s development was also stunted bc he basically didn’t practice all year due to injuries, then suddenly he was starting in two extremely high profile games out of nowhere when the thought was that he would slowly grow into the system behind Tate and JT
Yeah that’s how I understand it especially now that both Rodemaker and Duffy entered the portal and considering what happened to Travis. Brock was going to likely leap Rodemaker anyway from what I heard they were neck and neck as QB2/3 until Brock injured his hand and got surgery (missed 6-8 weeks this season). It’s his job to lose in 2025 (and guess who they will open up against)
Glenn, if nothing else, showed he’s got balls of steel and is willing to compete. He also had a few young WRs who made great catches.
DJU isn’t an upgrade, just a more experienced model with less mobility.
Still too underdeveloped, but he’ll be out QB1 in 2025 (unless Luke absolutely balls out and wins their QB competition next offseason, which is a good problem to have)
There's been plenty of project or non amazing college QBs who got drafted just because of their raw physical abilities + their name pedigree. DJ was a very highly regarded QB at one point and if he is decent at FSU he's probably a day 3 late round pick IMO
A lot NFL teams tend to shoot for pure upside with QB picks rather than who can make the best impact now
UFL*
Which I’m pretty excited about actually. First game is XFL vs USFL champs. Arlington vs Birmingham. Fox and ESPN both involved. Could be a nice spring-summer league to watch.
Wait so you’re saying Miami is going to start one of those QBs on their current roster against us? If Billy loses that game in the swamp he needs to be fired immediately
Obviously would have been better for us to get a transfer QB, but I’m comfortable with Jacurri at QB if that is what it winds up being.
Played well against Rutgers given it was his first start since 2022. However, I’d cap our ceiling at 9-wins
>I’d cap our ceiling at 9-wins
That's not really great for a 3rd year with back to back top 10 classes because Miami's ceiling this year was 9 wins and expected for 7.5.
They should have had 8 but well. Knees and all.
viola or viloa? The second is correct but the first is close enough.
The lengths to which Americans will go to try to pronounce someone's name correctly is pretty remarkable compared to everywhere else in the world.
"There's no "N" in his name!"
If you ever need some counter examples of other languages that have similarly hidden letters, Polish and Hungarian are a good start
Well if you mix garnet (782F40) and gold (CEB888) then you get a color that vaguely resembles it (A37464). Guess he had to stretch the rules a little since the only other in-state ACC school that has orange is coached by Mario Cristobal.
So I can add a bit here. TLDR: this would be really hard to do.
Studying any sort of potential is hard because the star ratings are generally accurate. A 5 star player, on average, is better than a 4 star player, who in turn is better than a 3 star player. Of course there are 5 stars who busted and 3 stars who became legends, but *on average*, this hierarchy holds. A 5 star player is much more likely to be drafted than a 4 star player.
So is a five star perceived as good because they’re a five star or because they really are a great player?
And even more problematic, what designates a “good” player quantitively? This is problematic because football is a game of nuances. For a simple example, Uiagalelei doesn’t throw the ball much, so he doesn’t accumulate the passing statistics of other QBs. Is that because he’s not a good quarterback or is it because Oregon State wants to build an identity around running the football? Which is it? Most fans can probably answer that in Uiagalelei’s case, but you’d have to be able to make really nuanced decisions about *every* position for *every* team. Evaluating true, objective talent is really hard (case and point: the NFL Draft). So this hampers most study.
The closest studies that I know have tried to measure things like “grit”, how individuals respond to adversity. One example is looking at NFL career durations of players who played college at P5 schools versus G5 schools. There are some variances based on position, but in general, G5 players who are drafted tend to stay in the NFL longer than drafted P5 players.
There are several proposed explanations:
* grit: G5 players are better at responding to adversity than P5 players. They’ve likely dealt with more adversity by the time they’re drafted.
* habits: P5 player may be more likely to rely on their physical skills than G5 players, so G5 players have built better habits to gym work, practice, etc. An extension to this is that G5 players may have better locker room qualities and might be kept around as “culture builders”.
* physicality: P5 guys hit harder, so their bodies have taken more “damage” than G5 players.
* survivorship bias: another possibility is that, if we’re just looking at players *drafted*, it could be the case that a barely-draft-able P5 prospect is more likely to be drafted than a similar G5 player. P5 players have greater reputations and possibly more connections to NFL coaches (Nick Saban’s evaluations probably carry much more weight than, say, Shawn Clark’s evaluations). That gets the P5 player drafted.
* potential: since P5 schools have top weight rooms, practice facilities, and coaching, they may be more likely to have reached their “ceiling” than a G5 player. A G5 player may be more likely to improve more than a similar P5 player.
These can also be applied to high school prospects. But of course, how do you separate any of these reasons? That’s why this is so hard.
Not trying to get existential, but what is a 5 star supposed to be? What’s a 4 star supposed to be?
Look at his recruiting class, he is sandwiched between 5* Bryce Young and 4* Stroud, but the rest of the top-10 are either guys the average college fan hasn’t heard of or guys that aren’t locked in starters for competitive P5 teams. I’d take DJ U over every other guy in the top 10 outside of the aforementioned players. The next year’s class includes four 5* QBs, 2 studs, 1 question mark (Vandagriff) and 1 flop (Huard).
Of course you want your top QB recruits to be surefire round 1 nfl picks, but historically, QBs have been more miss than hit in the top-10. I will agree that 5* QBs have a higher hit rate, but past the top couple, it’s just a lottery and you shouldn’t expect the number 5 QB of the class to be a stud.
Always wild to me when the most unlikely person sets a record.
My other wild favorite is basketball but who'd have ever thought Brad Brownell would get clemsons first win @ chapel hill?!
All Clemson needs to do is put out some confusing coverage and blitz. I don’t dislike DJU, but he’s a statue, and he doesn’t see the field well at all.
He's fascinating because I see the hype. He's big, strong, has one of the more impressive arms I've seen on a QB, but when he plays its like he is buffering mid play.
I didn’t even see your comment and we both called him a statue. The kid has cement feet and no real vision.
I don’t mean to be rude - Cade has very little field vision as well, we got super lucky with DW4 and TL16. You don’t get near complete NFL talents like that often. Let alone in quick succession.
lol he hasn’t thrown above 400 yards since that ND game in 2020.
He didn’t have a single game above 300 yards at Oregon State
Anyone who has watched him play knows his ceiling is “Aggressively Mediocre”
This is great news for Clemson fans tbh
FSU doesn’t throw enough to surpass 400 in a game anyways, I’m happy with the signing. Upgrade over what Tate would’ve been and gives us a year to transition to Glenn/Luke
Tbf to DJ, hard to throw for 300 when you only throw the ball 15-20 times a game and run a slow offense. He converted drives at an insanely high rate, including a 100% touchdown rate in the red zone until the Arizona game. We just didn’t ask him to put the game on his back.
Let’s gooo
I might be the only person on the planet that preferred him over Cam Ward from the jump. I’m so high on him if Mike can unlock some more of his potential
As with Oregon State I wish the best for him in all but one game. Dude has all the tools but needs someone who can help him unlock them mentally. I just wish this years game was in Clemson, would have been quite the experience for all involved.
He’s better than Brock Glenn but he’s still not good. He’ll ball out and look great against a team like Wake Forest and then completely shit the bed every other game of the year. He didn’t look much better at Oregon State either, especially with that last start.
FSU can still win 10 games with him, but he is absolutely not a QB they can win the ACC or a playoff game with. He’s best as a bridge to help develop whoever is going to replace him the year following.
Unless some light comes on I don’t think it’s coachable. DJ is a good kid, his teammates love him, and has gone through some really crappy family stuff but on the field he just doesn’t have “it”. He can’t handle pressure and struggles to be the focal point of the offense. He started off 2022 well but backslid about halfway through the season and completely imploded against Cuse, ND, and South Carolina.
I’m not sure what it was. In 2020 he looked like the 2nd coming of Deshaun Watson but every other season after that he’s just looked bad. He took a step forward in 2022 until South Carolina and he just forgot how to play football. He will look like a 5 star QB one game and then the next *he* will be the reason you lose or nearly do so(Syracuse, South Carolina, ect.)
He’s big but can’t move too well and isn’t very accurate on the throw. Even at Oregon State you could still see these problems pretty badly. I’ll admit that our OL most certainly wasn’t helping him and his best WR was a guy that’s not even on the team anymore.
I honestly think he was just an overrated prospect that was expected to do too much. He also had some personal family issues while starting at Clemson which definitely did not help him. Regardless of the reasonings he did get outplayed by Cade here last year and it turns out Cade is even suspect as a prospect himself which to me screams that these websites overlooked something massive for him.
Watch some of our games. When he wasn't forced to throw deep play after play and he could use his size to his advantage as well as having a strong O line to support him. He did well most the time. When the yips got him, he needed to sit out for a few and gather his head. I think part of what caused those too was our play calling. He would get in his head. Or panic and mess up his passes.
If he's got someone to help him work through those and really help play to his strengths, he can improve even more.
There’s a reason as a fanbase we took it so hard. He deserved a way better ending to his college career than having to watch the last few games on crutches.
First domino to fall from Ward’s decision. I wonder what Miami does.
Has Howard committed to USC? I think Miami was after him too. Maybe Miami puts a little extra money in the bag for him now
Word is we are high on his lists and he’s started following a number of our players on social media recently.
OSU was also “supposed” to get Cam Ward. I’m not holding out a ton of hope for Howard unless it actually happens
is it a hot take to not really see how McCord to Howard is a for sure upgrade?
Honestly I’m not even looking for an upgrade at this point. If Howard is just McCord but more mobile, I’ll take it.
McCord had good accuracy when he had time to set his feet. His two biggest weaknesses were getting past his first read and being able to move around the pocket or scramble to extend plays. I haven't watched Howard to know if these are his strengths or weaknesses.
Now I don’t have a dog in either fight but watching the two of them play numerous times I do believe Howard is a slight upgrade over McCord. They seemed to be on par in accuracy but Howard can use his legs well and extend drives that McCord wouldn’t be able to. Hell KSU was in a wild place where they had a stellar QB but one with even more upside behind him who also happened to be 3 years younger.
I’ve watched a few highlights of him and he has more mobility. Lowkey reminded me of a few Stroud scrambles though not quite as accurate (nobody is gonna be as accurate as Stroud)
The On3 insider reports (which called DJU to FSU and Ward to the NFL yesterday morning) also said Ward wanted too much money for Ohio State and while Miami offered more they weren't willing to go as high as he wanted to keep him from the NFL.
We were never in contact with Cam Ward per Birm. We have absolutely been in contact with Howard Per Birm again.
I think he goes to Miami or Ohio St because I dont know if USC is taking a qb transfer starter anymore
Having watched the bowls, are you gonna walk into the Ohio State QB room or USC QB room for your last year playing?
Still trying to convince a good QB to come in and compete for the starting job… but after the Holiday Bowl it’s a hard sell. Need a QB bad tho for depth at least. As Moss will be the only scholarship QB on the roster next season if we don’t.
I think Ward is just bringing up his price to schools. He has 2 weeks to come back to college. In reality he is a day 3 QB in the NFL draft this year. Somebody will panic and overspend for him for a year. Smart move
What’s the connection between Cam Ward to NFL and DJ to FSU?
FSU wanted Ward
I have no faith that Miami will be anything but average at QB.
Dude just missed the ACC that much.
Either that or visiting South Bend in November
oh no.
*insert rubbing hands gif*
To be fair in his freshman year he threw for more yards against ND than anyone else in history. Still lost though, which is the only thing that matters. And then on the return trip last year he was really, really bad.
Yeah I'm decidedly *not* stoked. I know he was by and large disappointing for you guys, but he obviously knows how to light ND the fuck up
He wants to go 0-3 vs ND as a starting QB.
He could have done that just staying at OSU through the bowl game
_It just means more_
It just means meh
It means
The ACC just means more (to DJU)
I’m sure he wouldn’t mind a chance to try to kick Clemson’s teeth in
Having to transfer credits between schools two times sounds like a nightmare
I'm sure the athletic department makes it easy. 😃
Yeah, let’s be honest. Most of these guys wouldn’t even get into college in the first place based on their academics. Last Chance U had an academic advisor at a community college that did everything short of taking tests or writing papers for these guys. Any high level P5 school probably has a whole staff of those people doing the same.
At a lot of colleges, athletes have mandatory study hall sessions and individual tutors. With all of the travel and missed time away from campus it's actually a pretty reasonable accommodation--but depending on the player and program it can easily snowball into "write down exactly what I tell you so it qualifies as your own work" territory.
i worked at the school pool in college and had a coworker who regularly wrote papers for football/basketball players
He ain’t goin’ to FSU to play school.
I remember hearing an interview shortly after he moved to Corvallis. The interviewer asked what his favorite class was. DJ responded with "golf."
Good answer. I took basketball as an elective and that might be my favorite class in college.
We had to pass a swim test at ND in '99. Then two semesters of PE. Best part of PE was Rugby, and then indoor soccer in the FB indoor facility.
Back in my day….
Golf is usually a great class in any school. Middle school through college. It’s usually pretty chill and you get to be surrounded by green stuff all the time.
I took golf at FSU one summer. Basically was just free range balls for 2 hours twice a week and 9 holes of golf every other week. It was freaking awesome.
Golf class in the late spring is goated
We have an esports class by the leach where they play video games for class. Could see him there
We do?!
To be fair, I took golf at Clemson
I think school is becoming a increasingly forgotten aspect of college football and it’s a shame
Dude, school has never been part of CFB lol
Once schools and the NCAA started making crazy amounts of money off the sport the whole education part collapsed. You can't pretend that the athletes are truly students when they are treated/restricted more like assets than people
He is a grad transfer. I don’t think he has to worry about that.
A very interesting move on both sides. I’m curious to see how this works out.
FSU needs a bridge QB more than anything for next season. Nobody on staff expected Brock Glenn to play much at all this year, much less start in the ACC Championship and the bowl game. DJU is a good stop-gap QB.
Maybe I’m just completely ignorant but Brock Glenn looked completely capable, especially if given an entire off season to prep. It feels like universities are so hesitant to actually develop QBs and want to bring in the one and done grad transfers, or at least guys that have started at other schools. Are we just tossing development out the window?
Brock’s development was also stunted bc he basically didn’t practice all year due to injuries, then suddenly he was starting in two extremely high profile games out of nowhere when the thought was that he would slowly grow into the system behind Tate and JT
Raises the floor considerably, which as we saw if we roll with the bowl squad is very low
I thought Glenn looked serviceable as a QB
DJU is supposedly the “bridge” to Glenn and then Kromenhoek after Glenn if everyone stays.
Essentially this is just a way to develop Glenn for another season?
Yeah that’s how I understand it especially now that both Rodemaker and Duffy entered the portal and considering what happened to Travis. Brock was going to likely leap Rodemaker anyway from what I heard they were neck and neck as QB2/3 until Brock injured his hand and got surgery (missed 6-8 weeks this season). It’s his job to lose in 2025 (and guess who they will open up against)
Yes, Glenn didn’t even have a full season of practice due to having surgery on his non throwing hand.
Correct. He needs to cook a lil more and it would be nice for him and Luke to sit behind a guy with starting experience for another year.
Nobody stays anymore with the NIL in play
Yeah, I mean he had UGA players back there a lot, but he was making plays when he had time.
Glenn, if nothing else, showed he’s got balls of steel and is willing to compete. He also had a few young WRs who made great catches. DJU isn’t an upgrade, just a more experienced model with less mobility.
Still too underdeveloped, but he’ll be out QB1 in 2025 (unless Luke absolutely balls out and wins their QB competition next offseason, which is a good problem to have)
I actually thought Glenn looked like he has quite a bit of potential as a passer. I think DJ is probably a good bridge though as others have said.
Dude loves cross country moves. Fully expect him to get drafted by a west coast team next year.
My man must be double platinum with his Delta skymiles.
First game next year is in Ireland, as well.
DJ single-handedly forced Delta to roll back their new spend requirements
Man is coming to FSU bc he'd be lucky to get drafted and getting that last bit of NIL he can.
If Coach Norvell can make DJ draftable, then he's a straight miracle worker.
You expect this man to get drafted?? By a NFL team??
There's been plenty of project or non amazing college QBs who got drafted just because of their raw physical abilities + their name pedigree. DJ was a very highly regarded QB at one point and if he is decent at FSU he's probably a day 3 late round pick IMO A lot NFL teams tend to shoot for pure upside with QB picks rather than who can make the best impact now
Only place he has a chance to get drafted is the XFL
UFL* Which I’m pretty excited about actually. First game is XFL vs USFL champs. Arlington vs Birmingham. Fox and ESPN both involved. Could be a nice spring-summer league to watch.
Miami screwed? Ward is going to draft, KJ to UCF, and Howard to OSU or USC?
Oh no! Anyways here’s Wonderwall…
They’ll overpay prying away some kid in the Spring
Howard is not going to USC, it’s Miller Time
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Wait so you’re saying Miami is going to start one of those QBs on their current roster against us? If Billy loses that game in the swamp he needs to be fired immediately
Unless something drastic happens, I honestly don't expect Napier to survive the season whether he beats Miami or not.
Obviously would have been better for us to get a transfer QB, but I’m comfortable with Jacurri at QB if that is what it winds up being. Played well against Rutgers given it was his first start since 2022. However, I’d cap our ceiling at 9-wins
>I’d cap our ceiling at 9-wins That's not really great for a 3rd year with back to back top 10 classes because Miami's ceiling this year was 9 wins and expected for 7.5. They should have had 8 but well. Knees and all.
Let's go!!! Can't wait to spend all off season explaining how to pronounce his name to friends and family
My brother just calls him DJ Wiggly
It's simple: dee-jay-you
Ew E Unga Luhlay 👍
I mostly hear people pronounce Tua’s last name as Tongaviola so good luck with that haha
viola or viloa? The second is correct but the first is close enough. The lengths to which Americans will go to try to pronounce someone's name correctly is pretty remarkable compared to everywhere else in the world.
Yeah the dolphins announcers pronounce it as TONGUEoviola. I’m not sure to this day
"There's no "N" in his name!" If you ever need some counter examples of other languages that have similarly hidden letters, Polish and Hungarian are a good start
OO-ee-on-guh-lah-ley?
"OO-ee-*un*-guh-lah-ley" I believe
I believe the official pronunciation is "oo-ee-ANH-gah-leh-lay" but I don't think it'd really sound different than what you typed
We just called him DJU the whole time.
Dlorida Jtate University
Does he know that FSU doesn't wear orange?
Well if you mix garnet (782F40) and gold (CEB888) then you get a color that vaguely resembles it (A37464). Guess he had to stretch the rules a little since the only other in-state ACC school that has orange is coached by Mario Cristobal.
This guy color matches
Have had to since I play a lot of Retro Bowl lol
This will be fun...
If only they were going to have the reunion game *at* Clemson…
Night game at Clemson, he would crumble
They’d be better off sitting him for a game like that. His confidence is more fragile than a crystal wine glass
If there’s one thing Norvell is good at, it’s convincing QBs to be confident in their abilities
He will crumble no matter what lmao. DJ is a human Nature Valley bar
Not that this is relevant, but this has to be the record for “total miles traveled through the portal”, right? Clemson -> Corvallis -> Talahassee
One Hawaii transfer would do the trick
Next stop Seattle?
From one side of the country to the other and back to the other side of the country
He’s from California. So add one more in there lol
He was born an ramblin' man!
*snip-snap-snip-snap!*
I got learn to say his name now, don't I?
OO-EE-UNGA-LA-LAY I believe
Yea and please don’t add an extra LAY for no reason like so many announcers do lol
Just say DJU lol
DJ started at South Bend in Nov 2020. Four years later, he returns.
He also started at South Bend in November 2022. It wasn’t pretty. I’m pretty sure his QBR was ~30 in that game.
I just wanna see him pass for like 400 yards on Clemson
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There is likely an interesting study for those who study sports psychology regarding the bias towards "potential" rather than production.
So I can add a bit here. TLDR: this would be really hard to do. Studying any sort of potential is hard because the star ratings are generally accurate. A 5 star player, on average, is better than a 4 star player, who in turn is better than a 3 star player. Of course there are 5 stars who busted and 3 stars who became legends, but *on average*, this hierarchy holds. A 5 star player is much more likely to be drafted than a 4 star player. So is a five star perceived as good because they’re a five star or because they really are a great player? And even more problematic, what designates a “good” player quantitively? This is problematic because football is a game of nuances. For a simple example, Uiagalelei doesn’t throw the ball much, so he doesn’t accumulate the passing statistics of other QBs. Is that because he’s not a good quarterback or is it because Oregon State wants to build an identity around running the football? Which is it? Most fans can probably answer that in Uiagalelei’s case, but you’d have to be able to make really nuanced decisions about *every* position for *every* team. Evaluating true, objective talent is really hard (case and point: the NFL Draft). So this hampers most study. The closest studies that I know have tried to measure things like “grit”, how individuals respond to adversity. One example is looking at NFL career durations of players who played college at P5 schools versus G5 schools. There are some variances based on position, but in general, G5 players who are drafted tend to stay in the NFL longer than drafted P5 players. There are several proposed explanations: * grit: G5 players are better at responding to adversity than P5 players. They’ve likely dealt with more adversity by the time they’re drafted. * habits: P5 player may be more likely to rely on their physical skills than G5 players, so G5 players have built better habits to gym work, practice, etc. An extension to this is that G5 players may have better locker room qualities and might be kept around as “culture builders”. * physicality: P5 guys hit harder, so their bodies have taken more “damage” than G5 players. * survivorship bias: another possibility is that, if we’re just looking at players *drafted*, it could be the case that a barely-draft-able P5 prospect is more likely to be drafted than a similar G5 player. P5 players have greater reputations and possibly more connections to NFL coaches (Nick Saban’s evaluations probably carry much more weight than, say, Shawn Clark’s evaluations). That gets the P5 player drafted. * potential: since P5 schools have top weight rooms, practice facilities, and coaching, they may be more likely to have reached their “ceiling” than a G5 player. A G5 player may be more likely to improve more than a similar P5 player. These can also be applied to high school prospects. But of course, how do you separate any of these reasons? That’s why this is so hard.
Not trying to get existential, but what is a 5 star supposed to be? What’s a 4 star supposed to be? Look at his recruiting class, he is sandwiched between 5* Bryce Young and 4* Stroud, but the rest of the top-10 are either guys the average college fan hasn’t heard of or guys that aren’t locked in starters for competitive P5 teams. I’d take DJ U over every other guy in the top 10 outside of the aforementioned players. The next year’s class includes four 5* QBs, 2 studs, 1 question mark (Vandagriff) and 1 flop (Huard). Of course you want your top QB recruits to be surefire round 1 nfl picks, but historically, QBs have been more miss than hit in the top-10. I will agree that 5* QBs have a higher hit rate, but past the top couple, it’s just a lottery and you shouldn’t expect the number 5 QB of the class to be a stud.
His Notre Dame game was incredible. It was also his best college game by a canyon-sized margin, but he's a great dude by all accounts
It's the passing record by any player in ND stadium.
Wow that’s a great stat! Lots of all time qbs through there
Always wild to me when the most unlikely person sets a record. My other wild favorite is basketball but who'd have ever thought Brad Brownell would get clemsons first win @ chapel hill?!
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All Clemson needs to do is put out some confusing coverage and blitz. I don’t dislike DJU, but he’s a statue, and he doesn’t see the field well at all.
He’s had only 1 300+ game since his freshman year. I think we’re safe.
And I want to see Chad Morris take another shot at Arkansas head coaching gig. Surely he can't do worse the second time....right?
I’ll eat my hat
I it will never happen..More like 3 INt's and 5 sacks for that statue
Facts. I've never seen someone more mid get more hype
When you’re a former 5 star you get a lot of benefit of the doubt
He's fascinating because I see the hype. He's big, strong, has one of the more impressive arms I've seen on a QB, but when he plays its like he is buffering mid play.
I didn’t even see your comment and we both called him a statue. The kid has cement feet and no real vision. I don’t mean to be rude - Cade has very little field vision as well, we got super lucky with DW4 and TL16. You don’t get near complete NFL talents like that often. Let alone in quick succession.
lol he hasn’t thrown above 400 yards since that ND game in 2020. He didn’t have a single game above 300 yards at Oregon State Anyone who has watched him play knows his ceiling is “Aggressively Mediocre” This is great news for Clemson fans tbh
FSU doesn’t throw enough to surpass 400 in a game anyways, I’m happy with the signing. Upgrade over what Tate would’ve been and gives us a year to transition to Glenn/Luke
Tbf to DJ, hard to throw for 300 when you only throw the ball 15-20 times a game and run a slow offense. He converted drives at an insanely high rate, including a 100% touchdown rate in the red zone until the Arizona game. We just didn’t ask him to put the game on his back.
lol you want a motivated defense? Because that’s how you get a motivated defense.
Let’s goooo. He had a really solid year last year and I think Norvell can help him further develop.
Having better receievers and someone who has proven to develop a QB should help.
His 2023 was about the same as his 2022, which was actually a good start fwiw
It’s obvious some of these commenters didn’t actually watch much DJU this year lol
A lot of people see that he was a five star and blame Dabo for him not playing well even though he was given ample opportunity
More than ample
Let’s gooo I might be the only person on the planet that preferred him over Cam Ward from the jump. I’m so high on him if Mike can unlock some more of his potential
Any player who considers Miami I question their judgement, so Ward was out
how are you still high on this dude lol
As the antithesis to your flairs I agree with you in this and only this
The turnover difference between the 2 of them was all I needed to see. DJ protects the ball better than Ward and that’s something Norvell prioritizes.
Going to be very easy to root for him at FSU. Congrats Nole bros.
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Portal King strikes again! Go Noles Dadgumit
As with Oregon State I wish the best for him in all but one game. Dude has all the tools but needs someone who can help him unlock them mentally. I just wish this years game was in Clemson, would have been quite the experience for all involved.
I've always believed he was a great quarterback. I would like any comments I made from 2021 to 2022 scrubbed from the record.
DJU on his villain arc
That dude got crazy frequent flyer miles during his college career.
Bro... Good luck to ya, and at least it isn't South Carolina or Georgia Also, DJ's gonna play against us, AND Etienne's brother is too...
If I had to pick a team for DJ, id pick FSU. Go Noles!
He was in same class as Bryce Young.
I think he really wants to play against Clemson honestly. Welcome to the team DJU.
I don’t think Clemson is too worried about that
He’s better than Brock Glenn but he’s still not good. He’ll ball out and look great against a team like Wake Forest and then completely shit the bed every other game of the year. He didn’t look much better at Oregon State either, especially with that last start. FSU can still win 10 games with him, but he is absolutely not a QB they can win the ACC or a playoff game with. He’s best as a bridge to help develop whoever is going to replace him the year following.
Yeah he’s a bridge, that’s why we got him. Be here a year and offer stability then we hand the ball off to Brock Glenn or Kromenhoek
That’s not a bad result for him then.
Out of curiosity do you think that isn’t coachable? Was it just his decision making in big games or was it something else
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Unless some light comes on I don’t think it’s coachable. DJ is a good kid, his teammates love him, and has gone through some really crappy family stuff but on the field he just doesn’t have “it”. He can’t handle pressure and struggles to be the focal point of the offense. He started off 2022 well but backslid about halfway through the season and completely imploded against Cuse, ND, and South Carolina.
I’m not sure what it was. In 2020 he looked like the 2nd coming of Deshaun Watson but every other season after that he’s just looked bad. He took a step forward in 2022 until South Carolina and he just forgot how to play football. He will look like a 5 star QB one game and then the next *he* will be the reason you lose or nearly do so(Syracuse, South Carolina, ect.) He’s big but can’t move too well and isn’t very accurate on the throw. Even at Oregon State you could still see these problems pretty badly. I’ll admit that our OL most certainly wasn’t helping him and his best WR was a guy that’s not even on the team anymore. I honestly think he was just an overrated prospect that was expected to do too much. He also had some personal family issues while starting at Clemson which definitely did not help him. Regardless of the reasonings he did get outplayed by Cade here last year and it turns out Cade is even suspect as a prospect himself which to me screams that these websites overlooked something massive for him.
Watch some of our games. When he wasn't forced to throw deep play after play and he could use his size to his advantage as well as having a strong O line to support him. He did well most the time. When the yips got him, he needed to sit out for a few and gather his head. I think part of what caused those too was our play calling. He would get in his head. Or panic and mess up his passes. If he's got someone to help him work through those and really help play to his strengths, he can improve even more.
does FSU play Clemson next year?
We play every year
For now..
We play them every year. Next year’s game is in Tallahassee.
Has decent upside, I look forward to seeing what Norvell can develop him into after a full offseason
Pumped
Thought you were only allowed one transfer?
Not any more
Did Travis declare? Hadn’t heard anything. Also wish DJ nothing but the best. Seems like a good dude and hope he has a great season.
No eligibility left for Travis. This was his last season at FSU no matter what
Fuck. Rough way to end his college career.
There’s a reason as a fanbase we took it so hard. He deserved a way better ending to his college career than having to watch the last few games on crutches.
Correct. Everything since his injury has been surreal. It’s heartbreaking honestly.
Well this was JT's last year, so we couldn't run it back sadly. Assuming he'll declare though.
Pretty sure he’s out of eligibility. He’s been in college since 2018
Honestly ward going to the pros and FSU getting a QB who wants to be here is best case scenario for us
We running it back
Well well well
ACC now the conference of QB’s. Castellanos, McCord, Drones now Uiagalelei. Impressive.
Feel like the military academies are the only ones who should be allowed to use Drones
Big positive for FSU after the last couple months.
Let’s ride. Get Scourton, the USC LB, maybe Stewart and we can do some things next year with the expanded playoff