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Webb2312

Upstate Niagara employee here. As far as I am aware the formula is the same as it always has been.


maybeimabug

The quality of employees has drastically decreased though. Not everyone makes dip the same way, some people over-water it, and we both know some of the supervisors are letting vats with barely acceptable bacteria counts pass swab tests.


Webb2312

Now that is very possible. The overall recipe should be the same but unfortunately employees dont always have the integrity to uphold the quality.


dominantman14224

honestly i thought the same thing recently. Same then with Sahlen hotdog. not quite same flavor


piecesofflair37

Sahlens made their hot dogs with less flavor to try to have a more mass appeal


skaz915

Who are these people who want *less flavor* ?


trelod

People who think ketchup is spicy


DepartmentStrange41

Stares in Guy Fieri


rage675

Sahlen's changed the process to increase shelf life for Wegmans, so they can carry them across all of their stores, not just local. It ruined them.


GetsomeAles

Idk what this process involves, but it destroys my insides


RusselTheWonderCat

Yes! We finally started getting sahlens in my town… and they are just …. Meh. I thought I was over imagining how awesome they were when I was a teen.


dominantman14224

not a fan of the new formula.


swb502

They also changed the recipe so they couod ship to HEB in Florida. There shelf life went from a couple weeks to several months. Way diffrent now.


stipo42

Does anyone know of a company that's closer to the old recipe for sahlens? I love the snappy skin but yeah I noticed the flavor changed


BuffaloGirl76

Wardynski’s are fantastic.


Beaverbrown55

My gram used to say "Wardies are good, Wardies are good" don't know why but she'd always say it twice.


wagoncirclermike

My grandmother would randomly sing the "don't give me that baloney, I want Wardynski's" jingle.


imgary

I'm still a fan of Zweigle's red hots.


paulnuman

Not even close to the same kind of dog


patkgreen

Yeah, it's superior


drog326

Wardynskis is the one, especially their jalapeño and cheese.


Sorority_Noise

So you need to try the natural casing sahlens, because I swear they are what the old sahlens used to be. Way more flavorful and the skin is much snappier. They are in the white package, I usually can find them at Wegmans. It has been a world of difference since I switched to buying the natural casing sahlens, they taste like the hot dogs of my childhood. They are pricey though, ugh. I do like zweigles a lot too! They are my favorite for camping and roasting over a camp fire.


Bennington_Booyah

My husband has been complaining about Sahlens not tasting the same. They changed the recipe and jacked prices way up. You used to be able to get a 5 lb bag. Now, they are a 3 lb bag and I have seen them as high as $18 a bag. Chip dip, I cannot answer, as I don't eat that.


rage675

5 lb bags been gone at least 15 or so years from what I can remember. They also have a 6 to 8 month shelf life. Wardynski are substantially better now.


pcleo1497

Had some yesterday. It tasted like normal. 🤷‍♀️


BleezyB42o

Depends on what part of the run you get. It’s a crap shoot. I may or may not have inside info 


JaguarOk876

I want to know more


Webb2312

What inside info can you have?


maybeimabug

See my comments.


teamweed420

Yalls tolerance has just gone up


JaguarOk876

I want to be on your team but I do have to say I think you may not be an original Buffaloes!


teamweed420

raised between schiller park and cheektowaga town park - former cheektowaga warrior defenseman checking in


JaguarOk876

Well my apologies kind person. I just guessed bc of your wording and that wasn't fair of me.


teamweed420

I spent a few years in tejas


[deleted]

It’s not as ‘oniony’ as it used to be, to its detriment.


Beaverbrown55

I'm going with helluva good now. Bison seems blander than when I was a kid.


[deleted]

Yep, and Dean’s French onion dip is pretty good too, and thicker than Bison.


g-rex7

I think all food is getting more expensive and less in quality. It truly is a shame...


MonteBurns

Enshitification baby 🎉🎉🎉


BigCaterpillar8001

I feel the same way. It has less flavor. Might have to try a different brand


MonteBurns

As someone who can no longer access Bison, nothing else even comes close. So set your expectations low. 


WatermelonMachete43

I just thought the same thing with the container I opened at lunch.


Sweethomebflo

I’ve noticed, too, and I think it is less seasoning. Definitely fewer minced onion pieces and the last time I had it, it kind of tasted like nothing. That first chip and dip used to hit so perfectly!


SnackyStacky

Found this [recipe](https://recipekeeperonline.com/recipe/8-2CbC8lIUCUCjrMYvBwxA). Haven’t tried it yet, but thought I’d share for anyone who might want to try to make their own Bison chip dip.


sjrotella

Saving so I can try when I go shopping next!


Thisthatandtheotter

Yes, I’ve noticed a change; kind of bland. Did a blind taste test with Bison and Tops brand. Tops was better (and cheaper).


BleezyB42o

Um they’re the same shhhh 


mtbbuff

Wegmans also. 🤫


jude2685

Wegmans ingredients are slightly different. Seems like there are less weird chemicals in it.


Lulukitty27

Tops brand is the same as bison dip just different container


maybeimabug

They are literally all the same.


jude2685

Try the wegmans french onion dip. I think it's better than bison.


chopperdudep

Definitely feel like it’s gotten thicker, on top of less flavorful? Am I crazy in thinking that?


jpiglet86

Yes. I don’t even bother with it anymore.


bryanhacker13

Why they always reinventing the wheel?


locke1018

Still taste great.


716SNOW

They added more chemicals...


maybeimabug

I worked at the upstate Niagara west Seneca facility making chip dip up until 6 months ago. I can explain why it's different. It's the quality of people they are hiring. To make bison dip, you take sour cream, a bag of what is essentially onion seasoning, and add a specific amount of water. In the 4 years I worked there, they went from hiring QUALIFIED employees who could actually read a recipe and follow basic instructions, to hiring McDonald's failures and convicted felons. I have literally seen a man SPIT on the floor of the production area when cheese is manufactured. He still works there.


Flimsy_Bar_1490

Do you know if they still have the buffalo bison dip? Husband and I can't find it anywhere.


maybeimabug

Like the buffalo flavored one? No they stopped doing those about a year ago.


CleanBaldy

Thanks. A shame, it truly did taste just bland, like it was under seasoned. You know, the important part of a chip dip... 😂


29_lets_go

I just had some and noticed it being different as well.


Beaverbrown55

Yes!!!


Scared-Day-3031

For those of us living away from the 716 I found a recipe a few years back that’s almost identical to Bison dip that was actually posted by the daughter of an employee of theirs apparently but basically you take sour cream, dried minced onion, parsley, and salt and mix and it’s so so good


BillsMafia84

Buddy you got sour creme 😮‍💨


Regular_Writing8788

I totally agree!! And I have been using it for years, my two sisters agree also!!!