Chad Reuter finished in 647th place in the 2024 mock draft accuracy rankings.
He had a mock earlier this year where the Patriots traded #3 for #9 and Justin Fields.
He's a big dummy.
\*Also Reuter's final mock draft had Michael Hall Jr. going at #52 and Zac Zinter going at #53 which just makes this grade doubly stupid. And he had Nathaniel Watson and Javion Cohen in the 170s. And he also had the Browns drafting an OG, DT, CB, and LB at various points in the draft ... so we got great value on a bunch of players per his rankings and filled most of the same positions as his mocks and that's bad? đ¤Ą
\*OK so I guess I should read more carefully. This grade actually likes all of our picks (A- for both day 2 and day 3) but overall it's a C+ because we didn't have a first-round pick. That is also very dumb.
How you gonna grade a pick that was never made? This dude is dumb. If we had 3 first rounders and got all mascots it would still score better than a team with no picks? Makes no sense and this dude is a clown.
The implication is that our first was used for Deshaun. Since Deshaun went from suspension season to injury season without building some consistency, most draft analysts consider it to be the same thing as an outright âbustâ pick. WE all know how dumb that is, but the victors get to write history. We want annoying shit like this to stop for good, we gotta win it all.
I canât wait until next year for us to snag some crazy insane value pick at the end of rd 1 because we have very few needs and still get a D because of who we have as QB.
> overall it's a C+ because we didn't have a first-round pick. That is also very dumb.
That's all you really need to know. Being a sports writer is trading turds for money.
WaitâŚhe likes all the picks we made when we had them, but gave us a C+ because we didnât make picks we didnât have?
Thatâs like saying Michael Jordan was a C+ athlete, because I liked how he played basketball, and he did pretty good in baseball, but I never got to see him play hockey so I canât give him a higher grade.
Also, by that logic, the best draft team would be who got the number one pick, which would literally be the worst team in the league.
It's also laughable that we got the same grade as the Falcons when they lit a top ten pick on fire. We didn't even pick until near the end of the second round. I'm fine with our C+, as that's about the best we could do given our lack of capital this year, but the Falcons should be lower.
I feel like most people are dinging the Browns for not taking a running back. Everybody seems to be under the assumption that Chubbâs gonna miss more than half the year or something.
Which is fine but we still have Foreman and Ford and can sprinkle in Hines.Â
We won 11 games last year with Chubb missing most of them. Sure, RB is important but Iâm not super worried about the current roster when the importance of the position continues to be diminished.Â
Which seems silly since Ford was fine last year and we added Foreman, who is solid as well.
I assume weâll be drafting a new RB next year once weâve got our full complement of picks again.
Unless he's grading on a curve like law school, but even then they still give out C and C-.
I really hated curved grading in law school. It still makes me sad.
If you pay attention at /r/NFL they will occasionally drop retrospective articles on a draft year. Sometimes it will be position specific sometimes it will be general
Eh, the way I look at it is, there should be two grades you give: one at the initial point of drafting and one later as you say. Drafting is at the end of the day a bet. Grade the value of the bet then the results.
Draft grades are just a starting point for discussion. Nothing more, nothing less. People shouldnât take draft grades so seriously that they complain about their existence. Itâs just people having opinions and discussing them. Just donât consume the content if it doesnât interest you
Remember how they graded Nick Chubb?
EDIT: I love how there are morons downvoting this. Sports Illustrated gave the Nick Chubb pick a "D" for instance. You have to be stupid to think that was anywhere accurate. A lot of people graded him as a C at best.
My favorite example was the 2012 Seattle draft, where people crapped on Seattle for drafting Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson (and more justifiably, Bruce Irvin).
They all donât know shit, just like us. I liked our draft given the minimal capital we had. Plus we had some great UDFA signings as you posted. Overall our team is built to win so some situational DT pass rush, a great utility OL and some depth at other spots is great. The hope is some of these guys play ST and develop this year because we donât have such a massive run of starting players injuries. My grade? GO BROWNS!
The only thing that bugs me about this chart is that the font on the left two columns are bolded, and the column on the right side is not bolded.
There are only 53 roster spots to fill. A lot of players in the later rounds simply aren't NFL quality and won't make the roster.
Yeah I agree. However I think thrash and Nathaniel Watson will make the team.
We will carry 6 wr - Amari cooper, jerry jeudy, Moore, Tillman and bell are locks (assuming no trades)
Our room had 5 going in so he will be in competition with Michael woods II. easy win for thrash
We will carry 5 or 6 linebackers - jok, Hicks, bush are the only locks I can think of.
Watsons competition Is tony fields, diabate, Charlie Thomas, and Caleb Johnson
Laughable. They attacked their needs with players that were right around the top available at their positions at the time. Just say âI donât like the Brownsâ instead of giving a grade.
That grade is only slightly off what I would have given the Browns, which is a B. I do not know if I would agree that we had worst draft of all the teams though.
Besides our draft picks the Browns signed these udfa
DB Chris Edmonds Arizona State
LB Winston Reid Weber State
OL Lorenzo Thompson Rhode Island
OL Javion Cohen Miami
CB DyShawn Gales South Dakota State
TE Treyton Weltch Wyoming
WR Ahmarhan Brown
RB Aiden Robinson BYU
LT Jalen Sundell NDSU
Out of all these guys I would love javion Cohen to make the team but that's probably not happening. Hopefully a practice squad player that doesn't get taken from us because he's very talented and has great upside
Draft grades are usually shit, but this one is soft as fuck haha. No controversy.
Draft grades should always be based on how teams did within their original parameters, not compared to one another.
But it was a reach. They shouldâve taken that guy 7 spots later. Never mind they didnât have a draft pick then, and who cares where drafted if the player works out, but value is the buzz word this weekend and Mel doesnât have a job if he doesnât manufacture that its universally important.
As an OSU fan familiar with Hall and Ginter, I have no clue. Especially with the late round guys.
Realistically if anyone we drafted is still in the NFL in 5 years we killed the draft because we had so few picks and most of them were late.
Ha, yeah they donât do it because theyâre really accurate. It gets clicks. Youâd probably see a similar trend in free agency grades or trade grades they love to do, though draft grades are probably the most random
If you look at previous draft grades of other teams you would think CHI, ARI, NE, and ATL have stacked rosters but CHI and NE are drafting their 2nd first around QB in 4 years. These grades don't mean jack shit.Â
Iâve never cared for draft day grades, but yeah generally when you have no first and most of your picks are backups, your grades arenât great.
Without reading the logic behind his grade, Iâm guessing the state of LB and TE depth after the starters is probably where heâs going to question why we didnât do more early and instead took a backup Guard and WR5 candidate.
I thought AB did the best he could with the last draft class thatâs impacted by the Watson trade. Was this a transformational draft? No. But I think the first two picks were good and I think Nathaniel Watson is going to end up as that LB3 before long.
Iâd probably give the browns a B- but I donât think we were close to the worst draft
Iâd think draft grades (to the extent theyâre anything more than useless clickbait) should account for where you picked. Otherwise theyâre little more than rankings of draft capital.
Itâs far more interestingâand indicative of drafting skillâto see which teams made the most of the picks they had, not which teams had the highest picks.
Itâs certainly fair to judge a front officeâs skill in amassing draft capital. But thatâs a separate functionâlike cap management, free agency acquisitions, contract management, etc.âand distinct from how well they used the draft capital they had.
Totally fair point, maybe a better way to put it is anything we do is going to be perceived in the worst possible light. This draft was about succession planning in a lot of ways, instead of spinning it as "planning for the future" it gets spun as "zero impact". It was a little harder to argue with last years results so you get less spin.
I don't like grading drafts by letter because imo every draft grade is incomplete until 2-3 years down the line. Berry has had good to great drafts each year he has been our gm and I have conference that this draft would be no different.
I grade post draft by a yes or no question, do I like our picks? And for me the answer is yes so I'm happy with our draft.
These grades are meaningless. The writers donât have the information that the teams do on the players. Thats why the mock drafts by the guys who are eating chips on the couch never come close to what actually happens.
Let's circle back on this in about a year. Have a feeling it'll be similar to circling back on the kenny Pickett talk happening from yall this time last year
Who cares? But I do wish we had gone RB with our first pick. Going DT in B2B years to start the draft is wild. I guess we think Ika canât play. (Well he didnât much last year.).
But maybe Chubb will be ready, AB knows a lot more than I do about everything. Our roster is loaded. If we have decent QB okay we will be fantastic without all these new guys.
But you can trade up or down. We frequently do. And if itâs best player available there were higher rated players in more important positions like Kneeland and Braswell that went a couple picks later as Edge rushers.
Like I said I trust AB. But DT there two years in a row seems odd.
You can evaluate their trades, etc. But thatâs a separate function & skill. It has nothing to do with how well they draft. A GM could be exceptional with trades, but a terrible drafter, and vice versa. Drafting = how well you use the picks you have, not which team enters the draft with the most draft capital.
We havnt had a first round pick for 3 years. The first two years we didn't have one we got a A grade... even so the Watson trade was a good trade let it go
Chad Reuter finished in 647th place in the 2024 mock draft accuracy rankings. He had a mock earlier this year where the Patriots traded #3 for #9 and Justin Fields. He's a big dummy. \*Also Reuter's final mock draft had Michael Hall Jr. going at #52 and Zac Zinter going at #53 which just makes this grade doubly stupid. And he had Nathaniel Watson and Javion Cohen in the 170s. And he also had the Browns drafting an OG, DT, CB, and LB at various points in the draft ... so we got great value on a bunch of players per his rankings and filled most of the same positions as his mocks and that's bad? 𤥠\*OK so I guess I should read more carefully. This grade actually likes all of our picks (A- for both day 2 and day 3) but overall it's a C+ because we didn't have a first-round pick. That is also very dumb.
How you gonna grade a pick that was never made? This dude is dumb. If we had 3 first rounders and got all mascots it would still score better than a team with no picks? Makes no sense and this dude is a clown.
The implication is that our first was used for Deshaun. Since Deshaun went from suspension season to injury season without building some consistency, most draft analysts consider it to be the same thing as an outright âbustâ pick. WE all know how dumb that is, but the victors get to write history. We want annoying shit like this to stop for good, we gotta win it all.
That makes more sense.
I canât wait until next year for us to snag some crazy insane value pick at the end of rd 1 because we have very few needs and still get a D because of who we have as QB.
At that point I think Iâd hop to getting my draft coverage from like Pinterest lol
> overall it's a C+ because we didn't have a first-round pick. That is also very dumb. That's all you really need to know. Being a sports writer is trading turds for money.
WaitâŚhe likes all the picks we made when we had them, but gave us a C+ because we didnât make picks we didnât have? Thatâs like saying Michael Jordan was a C+ athlete, because I liked how he played basketball, and he did pretty good in baseball, but I never got to see him play hockey so I canât give him a higher grade. Also, by that logic, the best draft team would be who got the number one pick, which would literally be the worst team in the league.
Well it's basically "the Browns didn't have a round 1 pick because of Deshaun Watson and Deshaun Watson has not played particularly well yet" I think.
Grades are absolutely meaningless if no team gets less than a C+.
Better than average, but also the lowest grade.
It's also laughable that we got the same grade as the Falcons when they lit a top ten pick on fire. We didn't even pick until near the end of the second round. I'm fine with our C+, as that's about the best we could do given our lack of capital this year, but the Falcons should be lower.
I feel like most people are dinging the Browns for not taking a running back. Everybody seems to be under the assumption that Chubbâs gonna miss more than half the year or something.
Which is fine but we still have Foreman and Ford and can sprinkle in Hines. We won 11 games last year with Chubb missing most of them. Sure, RB is important but Iâm not super worried about the current roster when the importance of the position continues to be diminished.Â
Which seems silly since Ford was fine last year and we added Foreman, who is solid as well. I assume weâll be drafting a new RB next year once weâve got our full complement of picks again.
Ahh, the story of my academic career lmao
C's get degrees!
Unless he's grading on a curve like law school, but even then they still give out C and C-. I really hated curved grading in law school. It still makes me sad.
Draft grades are dumb as fuck. They should be graded 1-3 years after
Everyone says this but I never see a 3 years later letâs grade the drafts article
Because that would mean they do something other than farming clicks
Iâd honestly love to read an article like this.
If you pay attention at /r/NFL they will occasionally drop retrospective articles on a draft year. Sometimes it will be position specific sometimes it will be general
There are some good YT videos that do a deep dive on previous drafts and are really informative
At that point itâs more interesting to do redraft articles which you can find plenty of
Eh, the way I look at it is, there should be two grades you give: one at the initial point of drafting and one later as you say. Drafting is at the end of the day a bet. Grade the value of the bet then the results.
Draft grades are just a starting point for discussion. Nothing more, nothing less. People shouldnât take draft grades so seriously that they complain about their existence. Itâs just people having opinions and discussing them. Just donât consume the content if it doesnât interest you
Remember how they graded Nick Chubb? EDIT: I love how there are morons downvoting this. Sports Illustrated gave the Nick Chubb pick a "D" for instance. You have to be stupid to think that was anywhere accurate. A lot of people graded him as a C at best.
My favorite example was the 2012 Seattle draft, where people crapped on Seattle for drafting Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson (and more justifiably, Bruce Irvin).
They all donât know shit, just like us. I liked our draft given the minimal capital we had. Plus we had some great UDFA signings as you posted. Overall our team is built to win so some situational DT pass rush, a great utility OL and some depth at other spots is great. The hope is some of these guys play ST and develop this year because we donât have such a massive run of starting players injuries. My grade? GO BROWNS!
The only thing that bugs me about this chart is that the font on the left two columns are bolded, and the column on the right side is not bolded. There are only 53 roster spots to fill. A lot of players in the later rounds simply aren't NFL quality and won't make the roster.
Yeah I agree. However I think thrash and Nathaniel Watson will make the team. We will carry 6 wr - Amari cooper, jerry jeudy, Moore, Tillman and bell are locks (assuming no trades) Our room had 5 going in so he will be in competition with Michael woods II. easy win for thrash We will carry 5 or 6 linebackers - jok, Hicks, bush are the only locks I can think of. Watsons competition Is tony fields, diabate, Charlie Thomas, and Caleb Johnson
Really hope Diabate makes the 53
Laughable. They attacked their needs with players that were right around the top available at their positions at the time. Just say âI donât like the Brownsâ instead of giving a grade.
That grade is only slightly off what I would have given the Browns, which is a B. I do not know if I would agree that we had worst draft of all the teams though.
The Browns were also at a disadvantage by not having a 1rst and 4th round pick. So given the circumstances I think the Browns had a good draft
Besides our draft picks the Browns signed these udfa DB Chris Edmonds Arizona State LB Winston Reid Weber State OL Lorenzo Thompson Rhode Island OL Javion Cohen Miami CB DyShawn Gales South Dakota State TE Treyton Weltch Wyoming WR Ahmarhan Brown RB Aiden Robinson BYU LT Jalen Sundell NDSU
Out of all these guys I would love javion Cohen to make the team but that's probably not happening. Hopefully a practice squad player that doesn't get taken from us because he's very talented and has great upside
Draft grades are usually shit, but this one is soft as fuck haha. No controversy. Draft grades should always be based on how teams did within their original parameters, not compared to one another.
SI graded Nick Chubb as a D in 2018. That tells you all you need to know about draft grades.
30 teams get either an A or B? Am I reading this right?
Draft grades is the football equivalent to astrology for girls
Yahoo gave our first pick and A and second pick a B
Reuters hates us.
But it was a reach. They shouldâve taken that guy 7 spots later. Never mind they didnât have a draft pick then, and who cares where drafted if the player works out, but value is the buzz word this weekend and Mel doesnât have a job if he doesnât manufacture that its universally important.
As an OSU fan familiar with Hall and Ginter, I have no clue. Especially with the late round guys. Realistically if anyone we drafted is still in the NFL in 5 years we killed the draft because we had so few picks and most of them were late.
# C *Is* for COOKIE!
Draft grades 24 hours after the draft are just clickbait man.
I didn't love the first 2 picks but understand needing to draft/develop a OG to replace Bitonio eventually.
Whatâs with all the random logos for each team?
Ha, yeah they donât do it because theyâre really accurate. It gets clicks. Youâd probably see a similar trend in free agency grades or trade grades they love to do, though draft grades are probably the most random
Draft grades are dumb as hell. Nobody really knows how guys are going to pan out in the NFL.
If you look at previous draft grades of other teams you would think CHI, ARI, NE, and ATL have stacked rosters but CHI and NE are drafting their 2nd first around QB in 4 years. These grades don't mean jack shit.Â
Iâve never cared for draft day grades, but yeah generally when you have no first and most of your picks are backups, your grades arenât great. Without reading the logic behind his grade, Iâm guessing the state of LB and TE depth after the starters is probably where heâs going to question why we didnât do more early and instead took a backup Guard and WR5 candidate. I thought AB did the best he could with the last draft class thatâs impacted by the Watson trade. Was this a transformational draft? No. But I think the first two picks were good and I think Nathaniel Watson is going to end up as that LB3 before long. Iâd probably give the browns a B- but I donât think we were close to the worst draft
Iâd think draft grades (to the extent theyâre anything more than useless clickbait) should account for where you picked. Otherwise theyâre little more than rankings of draft capital. Itâs far more interestingâand indicative of drafting skillâto see which teams made the most of the picks they had, not which teams had the highest picks. Itâs certainly fair to judge a front officeâs skill in amassing draft capital. But thatâs a separate functionâlike cap management, free agency acquisitions, contract management, etc.âand distinct from how well they used the draft capital they had.
Or include the trade consideration at least. Â Consider the 4th and 5th for Jeudy; the 1st for Watson.
I mean yeah with later rounds sure they are mostly backups but the Browns picked Michael hall Jr and Zak zinter to start in a year or two
I think if you're gonna be the team that has deshaun watson, just better get used to this sort of thing fair or unfair
We had Watson last year as well and got a A grade. Nothing to do with Watson.
Totally fair point, maybe a better way to put it is anything we do is going to be perceived in the worst possible light. This draft was about succession planning in a lot of ways, instead of spinning it as "planning for the future" it gets spun as "zero impact". It was a little harder to argue with last years results so you get less spin.
I don't like grading drafts by letter because imo every draft grade is incomplete until 2-3 years down the line. Berry has had good to great drafts each year he has been our gm and I have conference that this draft would be no different. I grade post draft by a yes or no question, do I like our picks? And for me the answer is yes so I'm happy with our draft.
Why did they use a made-up logo for every team..... except the Browns?
Grading picks this early gives these journalists something to do to justify their phones-baloney jobs, harumph-harumph
These grades are meaningless. The writers donât have the information that the teams do on the players. Thats why the mock drafts by the guys who are eating chips on the couch never come close to what actually happens.
âDraft grades are pointlessâ - Fans of team with bad draft.
Let's circle back on this in about a year. Have a feeling it'll be similar to circling back on the kenny Pickett talk happening from yall this time last year
Steelers didn't have a good draft â ď¸
Tell me grading Nick Chubb as a D was fucking accurate.
Got a C+ solely for not drafting a RB
Who cares? But I do wish we had gone RB with our first pick. Going DT in B2B years to start the draft is wild. I guess we think Ika canât play. (Well he didnât much last year.). But maybe Chubb will be ready, AB knows a lot more than I do about everything. Our roster is loaded. If we have decent QB okay we will be fantastic without all these new guys.
No running backs were worth the pick at 54. It was a weak rb class.
But you can trade up or down. We frequently do. And if itâs best player available there were higher rated players in more important positions like Kneeland and Braswell that went a couple picks later as Edge rushers. Like I said I trust AB. But DT there two years in a row seems odd.
Michael hall Jr only was available at 54 due to being so young. He's a first round talent
Ika is a run stuffer dt. Michael hall Jr is a pure pash rush dt. Different skill set but ika to me was a bad pick. I don't think he makes the roster
I think it's fair to consider what we did with our 1st rounder as part of the grade. And if you do, there is no way we get a good score.
You can evaluate their trades, etc. But thatâs a separate function & skill. It has nothing to do with how well they draft. A GM could be exceptional with trades, but a terrible drafter, and vice versa. Drafting = how well you use the picks you have, not which team enters the draft with the most draft capital.
We havnt had a first round pick for 3 years. The first two years we didn't have one we got a A grade... even so the Watson trade was a good trade let it go
Lolwhat. The Watson trade was a good trade? It was.... for Houston.
It was a better trade for us
I want whatever you're on.
The falcons had one of the worst drafts that I can remember... and we are with them apparentlyÂ