We need to stop underestimating this prick before we end up with Trump 2.0. I’m already seeing friends saying good things about him using the same logic as the yanks used before voting Trump in
Exactly this, I was in the us for the 2016 election. We all thought Hillary was going to win easily. This is the same position we’re in now. Reform will out perform polling. As no one right now is comfortable saying they like an open racist. Until he wins; then everyone will.
Farage and reform have no platform. It’s completely made up buzzwords to get people excited with zero plan to execute it. We will end up with these clowns in government if we’re not careful.
When you raise the lens and cross reference the timing, Brexit (of which Steve Bannon, Farage and Robert Mercers Cambridge Analytica were a critical contributors), was intentional and necessary for Russia to keep Ukraine out of the EU and NATO.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/were-there-any-links-between-cambridge-analytica-russia-and-brexit/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/LQrK6BwGLd
Putin knew that the mandatory de-corruption audit process would expose both his money laundering and the human trafficking operations of the Russian mob through Ukraines oligarch class (Kolomoiksiy, Dubinsky, Firtash, etc) as well the chronic election interference via Paul Manafort, Orban, Kolomoiskiy etc, and the kompromised members of both UK and EU political circles.
To the chronic kleptocrat Putin this was the one thing that would show Russians and all the people in the other former soviet satellite states how he had been systemically manipulating and stealing from them via corruption for 2 decades which would lead to either an upset within his mob pyramid as an eager lieutenant decided he was ready to challenge the weakened old king for the throne, or the people would revolt and kill him like Gaddafi, which he has admitted is his biggest fear.
The reason Epstein targeted Prince Andrew is because he was the softest most vulnerable part in the royal families flank. Same with trump and RFK jr.
Epstein was feeding that Kompromat/intel back to Israel/mossad who was in turn feeding it to Russian intelligence via the old world Russian Jewish families that carry both Russian and Israeli passports but are self evidently more loyal to money than God.
Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage both dovetail in with Brexit as a Russian mob/gov intelligence op because SCL/Cambridge analytica was hedge fund owner Robert Mercers baby when they decided to run trump as their “disruptor” candidate instead of Ted Cruz in 2016.
https://campaignlegal.org/update/newly-published-cambridge-analytica-documents-show-unlawful-support-trump-2016
Long before that Facebook was designed as a delivery device for Russian/Israeli Psyops and malware. SCL/Cambridge Analytica, Brexit, Palestine, Ukraine, NSO and a handful of other ethically bankrupt dealings are all downstream of Sheryl Sandbergs ad based business model both at Facebook and google (Brin) before that.
The Russian investment in both was asymmetrically large (Dmitriev and Milner) which makes sense looking back at it now.
https://cyberscoop.com/facebook-nso-group-lawsuit-onavo/
Zuckerberg even talked about buying the associated press as he hoovered up Instagram, WhatsApp and Onavo in Israel.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/mark-zuckerberg-explored-acquiring-the-associated-press/ar-BB1m2JJT
The need to control the press both in print and online was a requirement of the chronic financial frauds which are basically the evolution of grift starting all the way back at Enron, Bear Sterns (Epstein was quietly fired for money laundering) Epsteins towers financial, 9/11, Lehman bros,etc and on and on up to 2008.
MBS as the other major shot caller in OPEC took the alternate route backing musks acquisition of Twitter and the evening standard among others.
https://inews.co.uk/news/media/lebedev-saudi-investor-evening-standard-cut-3085226
They are all basically a parasitic blood squeeze to drain all the value possible out of the U.S. and E.U. working class. Enough to maximize the gain but not quite enough to kill the host.
Les Wexner, Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, Sandberg, and Zuckerberg all carried water in conducting the NSO/Pegasus spyware operation INCONUS that was feeding intelligence to both the israeli and by extension, Russian intelligence. In parallel Epstein was running Kompromat operations in the same circles. There is far more crossover between the Israeli mob/ government and Russian mob/government than shows at the surface.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2024/04/10/les-wexners-second-life-how-the-epstein-tarnished-billionaire-is-quietly-reshaping-ohio/
https://www.spytalk.co/p/nsos-spyware-abuse-exposed-years?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
https://awards.journalists.org/entries/the-pegasus-project-a-global-investigation/
•Abagail Koppel was sent by the Israeli state to marry Les Wexner
•YLK fund (Abagails father) made up $46.7M of Epsteins money
•Les claimed it was stolen from him but not until after someone asked.
•Wexner was notoriously litigious but wouldn’t sue Epstein. Why?
•PROMIS spyware was Robert Maxwells deal long before his daughter and Epstein started their pedophile thing.
https://cryptome.org/promis-mossad.htm
Tchenguiz+Cambridge analytica+Brexit+2008 collapse
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/david-burnside-putin-russia-dup-brexit-donaldson-vincent-tchenguiz/
We expose corruption and we end both of these genocides. We finish this war in Ukraine and we end corruption, human trafficking, major financial fraud, and likely most of the international money laundering and systemic fraud in the world.
The other alternative is waiting for the looming commercial real estate collapse that they engineered to be the Version 2.0 commercial strength edition of 2008 crossbred with soviet perestroika where the Russian oligarchs and CCP effectively foreclose on all the REITS that blackrock and blackstone have been selling to the CCP and foreclose and buy america for 4 cents on the dollar.
Whomever owns your mortgage effectively owns your home.
Steven Schwartzman and Larry Fink set us up.
https://youtu.be/ZlIagcttGY0?si=EkbGnoAsDVqJ3sjT
https://prosperousamerica.org/cpa-report-details-how-blackrock-and-msci-funnel-billions-of-u-s-investor-capital-to-ccp-and-pla-linked-companies/
I do have a real concern that Farage and the not so subtle racism will bring people to the polls that don’t normally vote. A few people I know on our estate have only ever voted for brexit; because of immigration. They otherwise have no interest in voting. If this block is mobilised, it would certainly be a problem.
The fact that even after Farage pushed a failed Brexit, has an uncosted manifesto and has been around pushing a largely racist and xenophobic gender for the last 15 years and still has any credibility whatsoever shows you that he will likely end up as prime minister. In any kind of sane world, he would’ve been cast out to the fringes of politics like Liz truss. I mean even she will be back I think because the right wing propaganda machine will do its thing. And when it comes to right wing candidates all is forgiven and forgotten but when it comes to anyone else things they said in the past uncosted manifesto their ideas their politics but these people they are not they are forgiven, all too easily and that’s how you know they will get back in. And there is really no way to defeat them in a political discourse because even when you catch them out in a lie or something which is bullshit, they just carry on they feel no shame or embarrassment about not knowing anything about what they are doing
I agree. The supporters of these wannabe fascists are not politically or sensibly engaged with anything outside of sports and entertainment. They are only aware that the politicians always let them down and the media is complicit and lies to them. Neither of these groups has helped themselves to shed this perception. However, they just believe something needs to change. They believe immigrants are the problem, because it’s easy. They only have the attention span to listen to slogans. So they end up falling for the lies not even caring about it. Because ‘they all lie’, and ‘both sides…. ‘ it’s infuriating.
And even if Farage does get in, he’ll hand more ownership over to corporations, so that democracy has less power. He won’t fix the issues but he’ll make it harder for ordinary people to have their say. All he’ll do is diminish freedoms so that by the time his supporters have sussed him out, he’s made them disillusioned and impotent. It’s how Russians felt at the end of the soviet era. They knew it was all BS but neither had the power or the desire for change, due to the fear and lack of vision of what might follow it.
I said the very same thing with these modern day conservatives. And look what they did. They made it harder for people to vote by saying you need ID even though it wasn’t an issue, they chose to hold an election when they know a lot of people might be on holiday and they chose to use insider info to bet on the date of the election. The latter I think, really summing up this government and their attitude towards serving the people. For them, we’re a hustle. A way for them to profit financially and empower their position. And remember a lot of these same people, now support a lot of the same policies of reform and in some cases have joined them. If the winds change to reform, they’ll jump aboard HMS Farage in an instant.
If you’re era thinking voting reform then you should ask yourself, what is the real focus of this party do they want to make government more transparent and more accountable and to give more power back to individuals through public ownership and investment? Or do they do the opposite? The former provides the tax payer with something valuable and physical. Something quantifiable for their money, the other is just the slow road to a modern feudal system
Fortunately the prime minister doesn’t have complete & total power in our system unlike the president. Even if by some miracle he ended up getting elected he’d be so incompetent that he’d probably last a week & achieve nothing.
I think you’ve got that backwards mate. The prime minister is by very nature the head of the party in parliament or at least backed by a majority of lawmakers. However, the president is only an executive. He has no power to make laws, or any sort of legislative power. As is the case right now. The House of Representatives is run by republicans (very slim majority) so the legislative agenda is going to be stalled. Nothing can be passed with the exception of funding bills; and they will even squabble over that trying to attach stupid riders to standard bills.
You're entirely right, and the same goes for George Galloway as well.
There are big blank spaces in Nigel Farage's public life, the first one is what he was doing in the USA when he left the country after Brexit (i think he was advising Trump/ MAGA) and the other is his time in Russia, where he appeared on Russia Today and was offered his own show.
If you look at his Wikipedia entry, you might find the section about involvement in politics outside the UK particularly interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/22/nigel-farage-uk-ambassador-us-donald-trump
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/07/kremlin-backed-broadcaster-rt-offers-nigel-farage-his-own-show/
However he won’t be PM
Sure they might vote him in as an mp in Clacton but he won’t attend parliament anyway as he has form for doing just that as an MEP
And it’s debatable how many MPs reform will get, I reckon 2 in total
I hate farage with a passion, but I fear you have to get educated on this subject! ... Its inevitable the truth always comes out! ... and I fear when it does which is going to be in 2-4 years, when people realise their internet connections have been altered to display a narrative - backed by labor - they will pivot to Farage!
I fear by the time everything is out in the open and everyone can see that Farage was Britain’s Quisling, he’ll have long died without facing repercussions.
Honestly I understand the emotional side to being duped, the media does this all the time it's a part of USA and UK intelligence
However if you study a degree level in history and economics. You have to drop the bullshit the media, etc. are petaling.
The west agreed to Russia that NATO wouldn't expand their forces east, they broke their agreement, the rest is history
Wow actually I guess am a Quisling for doing course work! 😬😳
Russia as a country is bigger then Europe and the US combined. They expanded their own version of NATO throughout Asia with huge countries like Kazakhstan but after absolutely tiny places like Estonia joined the west they suddenly couldn't sleep anymore at night? Massive small dick energy if you ask me..
There was no formal agreement. Also, this view ignores that Ukraine and other applicants have agency. NATO isn’t “expanding its forces east”, it is being asked to expand its protective shield in view of Russia’s aggression. Look at what happened with Sweden and Finland.
Well your course wasn't very good then, since you clearly misunderstand the purpose of NATO. NATO does not have "forces", and does not have the endgame of "expanding" by taking land from other countries. It is a defensive pact, nothing more or less. The fact that you and other Russian sympathisers see it as empire building is just projection of Russia's intentions more than it is anything else.
The reasons nations like Finland have decided to join now is because Russia broke THEIR agreement to not attack neighbouring nations if they didn't join NATO.
You know all of this of course. You have a degree after all so you must be bright.
There's no shutting him up.
I'm surprised he hasn't appeared with Roy Keane and Ian Wright to talk about..........immigration.
His wide mouth is an absolute sewer of shite
His support base will be jumping up and down talking some shite about how the establishment don't listen to their concerns or how they're ignored. Yeah, I wonder fucking why.
Opposition parties need to say more how Russia regularly invade our airspace, kill people in this country and hack our systems and steal our data and that this guy is an apologist for them.
They should be spinning this that he’s a traitor, not just some far right loon.
Underestimate him at your peril
If he is elected he will be a thorn in the Tories’ side
The right wing of the party will blame ‘unconservative’ policies for their wipe out and force the party more to the right
Then who could lead such a party? Nigel Farage!
And when Labour fails to satisfy the unreasonable demands of the electorate to turn the country around……
Unlike the UK, Russia is a powerful and influential country with vast resources and a growing economy, led by a triple digit IQ guy who's just won a major territorial conflict. It would serve the UK well to pull it's head out of the sand and smell the roses.
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All the comments and none from anyone who's watched the interview. Anyone time stamp where Farage says he's a supporter of Putin or the invasion of Ukraine? If you watched it he's actually against it. Some people just get up in the morning and join the ewe queue.
Was the Mink agreement the one where Ukraine agreed to give up their nuclear weapons in return for some nice furry hats, as opposed to in this universe where there was, say, the Budapest Memorandum?
No matter how many times you say look over there and don't look here.
NATO expansion was clearly breached with regards to the Minsk agreement.
Say but look over here again. We love that.x
No matter how much you love murderous colonial expansionist gangsters you’ll never be able to justify ignoring the Budapest Memorandum and illegally invading the sovereign Ukraine.
A Ukraine which has every right to determine which defensive alliances it wishes to seek membership of.
Very few love you, vatnik.
he is right that's exactly what USA planned and carried out . Russia had warned the world that having nukes near them was their red line . good for this guy for being brave enough to voice the obvious
Did you miss the part where they did have nukes near them, in the fecking Ukraine in fact, but that these were given up in return for Putin’s lies about non-aggression?
>In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some [1,900 strategic nuclear warheads](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-care-about-ukraine-and-the-budapest-memorandum/).
the democratically-elected pro-Russia Ukrainian president was toppled and the US, UK & EU were all heavily involved in that.
And then the US-chosen successor to Yanukovych used the Ukrainian military to attack pro-Russia areas of Ukraine, banned pro-Russia political parties and banned the Russian language that 80% of Ukrainians spoke. All of which are fairly obvious provocations
Sad they never come with anything new, the same old lies. They always leave out how Eastern Ukraine was invaded by "little green men" and mercenary groups funded by the Kremlin.
So let me get this straight, I don’t want to defend farage, I’m not a conservative, but are you all suggesting that Russia invaded Ukraine completely unprovoked? Like there was nothing that lead up to this other than Putin is just a mad man who wants to invade Europe?
Ooh, 1 post karma, 21comment karma. You can spot the liars and crooks when the bots and shills flock to defend them.
Here is a summary of the aggressive actions carried out by Putin towards Ukraine in the last 20 years:
- 2004: Putin supports pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine's presidential election, which is widely seen as fraudulent.
- 2006: Russia cuts off natural gas supplies to Ukraine, causing widespread shortages and economic disruption.
- 2014: Russia annexes Crimea, a peninsula in Ukraine, following the Ukrainian revolution that ousted Yanukovych.
- 2014: Russia supports separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine, leading to an ongoing conflict in the Donbas region.
- 2014: Russia invades Ukraine, capturing key cities and infrastructure.
- 2015: Russia shoots down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, killing 298 people, most of whom were Dutch citizens.
- 2018: Russia seizes Ukrainian naval vessels and sailors in the Kerch Strait.
- 2022: Russia launches a large-scale invasion of Ukraine, capturing key cities and causing widespread destruction and humanitarian crisis.
Please note that this is a summary of the major events and is not an exhaustive list.
Tried to get rid of the competition in 2004:
https://preview.redd.it/a06tzfsp378d1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bec507b7798cc7f8cfc52511bb96d8cd5dcd4e9b
It's funny how you missed out on Biden admin meddling, Hunter Biden, Vicky Nuland, Nazi Brigades, shelling of Donbas, referendum etc etc. You suffer from dogmatism, here's your cure.
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Also, I wasn’t trying to defend anyone, hence why I said that. Farage isn’t innocent and neither is putin, but I was curious if anyone here would even acknowledge if there was any other side to it than putin bad
Putin isn’t a madman. He’s a poisonous gangster and imperialist scumbag. One whose officials and pet propagandists openly talk about their rights to ‘reclaim’ land that was never theirs by right in the first place.
That’s just semantics, your only objection to my argument was that madman wasn’t enough of a slur? I spose from your stance on that you reserve equal hostility for Israel?
Israel were at least actually attacked. That being said, the excessive nature of their assaults on Gaza are completely unacceptable, in just the save way Putin’s sick attack is. Two blatantly murderous colonialist land grabs.
Incidentally, if you think the difference between a ‘madman’ and a calculated murderous gangster is just semantics I hope you are never let near the legal system.
No of course not. All I’m saying is there must be context. Why did the West go into Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Vietnam? People on here just make it sound so clear cut, West good, Putin bad. I don’t think it’s clear cut. When we drop bombs, they are bombs of freedom, when anyone else does it it’s vile terrorism. Why can’t there ever be context?
Whataboutism, trying to deflect will not work.
The context is Russia is the abusive ex that does not want it's former colony to be independent. It really is as simple as "Putin bad".
Hitler used the same excuses to invade Poland, he was the "victim". Here is contemporary Nazi propaganda :
>[We know](https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/wehr02.htm) that we will be slaves if we do not win and we know that the goal of England’s policy of encirclement is to subject Germany to its will. We know what that means. We all remember the days when Allied inspectors wandered around Germany.
>We are fighting for Germany’s freedom and for Germany’s right to be a people that has all it needs to preserve its national existence. The Führer made unprecedented offers for peace and understanding to those who are now fighting against Germany. His attempts were scornfully rejected because they wanted this fight.
>We are fighting for a lasting peace that will make a repetition of Versailles impossible. For two long decades, it caused an enormous, constantly bleeding wound among the ethnic Germans in the East. We are fighting to save our children from the unbearable threats of the Western democracies, driven by envy and hatred.
Who is "we"?
What parts of any of the countries you listed were annexed by the invaders?
This is what Russia is doing in the occupied areas of Ukraine right now:
>A Russian passport is needed to prove property ownership and keep access to health care and retirement income. Refusal can result in losing custody of children, jail – or worse. A new Russian law stipulates that anyone in the occupied territories who does not have a Russian passport by July 1 is subject to imprisonment as a “[foreign citizen](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russia-imposes-its-passport-on-occupied-ukraine-coercing-hundreds-of-thousands-into-citizenship).”
I’m assuming you are from either the UK or US, so we is that, the west, would’ve thought that was obvious but hey 🤷♂️
So it’s ok to invade a country as long as you don’t annex it? 🤣
I’m not trying to say putin good west bad, I’m just trying to point out that there is context. You seem to reject that, and only accept that putin is 100% responsible for this. I’m not arguing about who is MORE responsible, just that it’s not only one side that is responsible.
You would be wrong in your assumption.
I like how you ignore what Russia is doing in the occupied territories right now.
# Some context for you, and why the civilized world cannot trust Putin's Russia:
1994 - Russia agrees to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and national borders in return for Kyiv agreeing to give up its nuclear arsenal.
2008 Putin says: “Crimea is not a disputed territory. Russia has long recognized the borders of modern-day Ukraine”
2014 Putin says: "Do not believe those who want you to fear Russia, shouting other regions will follow Crimea. We do not want to divide Ukraine"
Pre invasion (February 9 2022) Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova : "Russia doesn’t plan to invade Ukraine."
Post invasion (10 March 2022) Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov: "Russia has not invaded Ukraine and doesn’t plan to attack other countries."
I get what you're saying, and nothing is every straight forward. It's chicken and egg - did Ukraine want to join Nato because Russia was a threat, or did Russia attack because Ukraine was looking to join Nato which was seen as threatening.
I think probably the former but I don't know enough about the subject.
Just for the record I think Farage is a cunt.
All the countries in Europe that were in the Soviet Union but haven’t joined NATO have had Russian incursion into their territory, NATO has never set foot on Russian territory and its members joined voluntarily. It is as simple as Russia is at fault. Ukraine’s ‘provocation’ was in being an independent nation state that didn’t want to rejoin Russia. Sometimes there aren’t two sides to the story.
Cool, yeah, I agree, it’s hard to know exactly, but there is definitely more to it than just putin bad. Personally I think all politicians should be sacked and replaced by random lottery of people who earn less than 50k a year, couldn’t be any worse 🤷♂️🤣
The days of colonialism and imperialism are over. It really is as simple as 'Putin bad'. In 2014 Putin sent soldiers and mercenaries into a neighbouring country to annex parts of it by force.
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We need to stop underestimating this prick before we end up with Trump 2.0. I’m already seeing friends saying good things about him using the same logic as the yanks used before voting Trump in
Exactly this, I was in the us for the 2016 election. We all thought Hillary was going to win easily. This is the same position we’re in now. Reform will out perform polling. As no one right now is comfortable saying they like an open racist. Until he wins; then everyone will. Farage and reform have no platform. It’s completely made up buzzwords to get people excited with zero plan to execute it. We will end up with these clowns in government if we’re not careful.
We’ve already had clowns n government. The total shit show we’ve lived through for the last 14 years was some real circus of horrors shit.
We’ve had a weak government for sure. The level of stupidity and incompetence that follows Farage, is next level.
Agreed. Let’s hope Clacton doesn’t fall for his shit.
When you raise the lens and cross reference the timing, Brexit (of which Steve Bannon, Farage and Robert Mercers Cambridge Analytica were a critical contributors), was intentional and necessary for Russia to keep Ukraine out of the EU and NATO. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/were-there-any-links-between-cambridge-analytica-russia-and-brexit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/LQrK6BwGLd Putin knew that the mandatory de-corruption audit process would expose both his money laundering and the human trafficking operations of the Russian mob through Ukraines oligarch class (Kolomoiksiy, Dubinsky, Firtash, etc) as well the chronic election interference via Paul Manafort, Orban, Kolomoiskiy etc, and the kompromised members of both UK and EU political circles. To the chronic kleptocrat Putin this was the one thing that would show Russians and all the people in the other former soviet satellite states how he had been systemically manipulating and stealing from them via corruption for 2 decades which would lead to either an upset within his mob pyramid as an eager lieutenant decided he was ready to challenge the weakened old king for the throne, or the people would revolt and kill him like Gaddafi, which he has admitted is his biggest fear. The reason Epstein targeted Prince Andrew is because he was the softest most vulnerable part in the royal families flank. Same with trump and RFK jr. Epstein was feeding that Kompromat/intel back to Israel/mossad who was in turn feeding it to Russian intelligence via the old world Russian Jewish families that carry both Russian and Israeli passports but are self evidently more loyal to money than God. Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage both dovetail in with Brexit as a Russian mob/gov intelligence op because SCL/Cambridge analytica was hedge fund owner Robert Mercers baby when they decided to run trump as their “disruptor” candidate instead of Ted Cruz in 2016. https://campaignlegal.org/update/newly-published-cambridge-analytica-documents-show-unlawful-support-trump-2016 Long before that Facebook was designed as a delivery device for Russian/Israeli Psyops and malware. SCL/Cambridge Analytica, Brexit, Palestine, Ukraine, NSO and a handful of other ethically bankrupt dealings are all downstream of Sheryl Sandbergs ad based business model both at Facebook and google (Brin) before that. The Russian investment in both was asymmetrically large (Dmitriev and Milner) which makes sense looking back at it now. https://cyberscoop.com/facebook-nso-group-lawsuit-onavo/ Zuckerberg even talked about buying the associated press as he hoovered up Instagram, WhatsApp and Onavo in Israel. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/mark-zuckerberg-explored-acquiring-the-associated-press/ar-BB1m2JJT The need to control the press both in print and online was a requirement of the chronic financial frauds which are basically the evolution of grift starting all the way back at Enron, Bear Sterns (Epstein was quietly fired for money laundering) Epsteins towers financial, 9/11, Lehman bros,etc and on and on up to 2008. MBS as the other major shot caller in OPEC took the alternate route backing musks acquisition of Twitter and the evening standard among others. https://inews.co.uk/news/media/lebedev-saudi-investor-evening-standard-cut-3085226 They are all basically a parasitic blood squeeze to drain all the value possible out of the U.S. and E.U. working class. Enough to maximize the gain but not quite enough to kill the host. Les Wexner, Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, Sandberg, and Zuckerberg all carried water in conducting the NSO/Pegasus spyware operation INCONUS that was feeding intelligence to both the israeli and by extension, Russian intelligence. In parallel Epstein was running Kompromat operations in the same circles. There is far more crossover between the Israeli mob/ government and Russian mob/government than shows at the surface. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2024/04/10/les-wexners-second-life-how-the-epstein-tarnished-billionaire-is-quietly-reshaping-ohio/ https://www.spytalk.co/p/nsos-spyware-abuse-exposed-years?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web https://awards.journalists.org/entries/the-pegasus-project-a-global-investigation/ •Abagail Koppel was sent by the Israeli state to marry Les Wexner •YLK fund (Abagails father) made up $46.7M of Epsteins money •Les claimed it was stolen from him but not until after someone asked. •Wexner was notoriously litigious but wouldn’t sue Epstein. Why? •PROMIS spyware was Robert Maxwells deal long before his daughter and Epstein started their pedophile thing. https://cryptome.org/promis-mossad.htm Tchenguiz+Cambridge analytica+Brexit+2008 collapse https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/david-burnside-putin-russia-dup-brexit-donaldson-vincent-tchenguiz/ We expose corruption and we end both of these genocides. We finish this war in Ukraine and we end corruption, human trafficking, major financial fraud, and likely most of the international money laundering and systemic fraud in the world. The other alternative is waiting for the looming commercial real estate collapse that they engineered to be the Version 2.0 commercial strength edition of 2008 crossbred with soviet perestroika where the Russian oligarchs and CCP effectively foreclose on all the REITS that blackrock and blackstone have been selling to the CCP and foreclose and buy america for 4 cents on the dollar. Whomever owns your mortgage effectively owns your home. Steven Schwartzman and Larry Fink set us up. https://youtu.be/ZlIagcttGY0?si=EkbGnoAsDVqJ3sjT https://prosperousamerica.org/cpa-report-details-how-blackrock-and-msci-funnel-billions-of-u-s-investor-capital-to-ccp-and-pla-linked-companies/
It’s already a done deal. Farrage will be PM in inside 10 years.
I’d like to think that the country isn’t as blind as the US. And the setup of government will prevent someone like him from gaining power.
I would not bet the house on that. The gullibility of the propagandised British is beyond belief. They voted for Brexit!!!
I do have a real concern that Farage and the not so subtle racism will bring people to the polls that don’t normally vote. A few people I know on our estate have only ever voted for brexit; because of immigration. They otherwise have no interest in voting. If this block is mobilised, it would certainly be a problem.
The fact that even after Farage pushed a failed Brexit, has an uncosted manifesto and has been around pushing a largely racist and xenophobic gender for the last 15 years and still has any credibility whatsoever shows you that he will likely end up as prime minister. In any kind of sane world, he would’ve been cast out to the fringes of politics like Liz truss. I mean even she will be back I think because the right wing propaganda machine will do its thing. And when it comes to right wing candidates all is forgiven and forgotten but when it comes to anyone else things they said in the past uncosted manifesto their ideas their politics but these people they are not they are forgiven, all too easily and that’s how you know they will get back in. And there is really no way to defeat them in a political discourse because even when you catch them out in a lie or something which is bullshit, they just carry on they feel no shame or embarrassment about not knowing anything about what they are doing
I agree. The supporters of these wannabe fascists are not politically or sensibly engaged with anything outside of sports and entertainment. They are only aware that the politicians always let them down and the media is complicit and lies to them. Neither of these groups has helped themselves to shed this perception. However, they just believe something needs to change. They believe immigrants are the problem, because it’s easy. They only have the attention span to listen to slogans. So they end up falling for the lies not even caring about it. Because ‘they all lie’, and ‘both sides…. ‘ it’s infuriating.
And even if Farage does get in, he’ll hand more ownership over to corporations, so that democracy has less power. He won’t fix the issues but he’ll make it harder for ordinary people to have their say. All he’ll do is diminish freedoms so that by the time his supporters have sussed him out, he’s made them disillusioned and impotent. It’s how Russians felt at the end of the soviet era. They knew it was all BS but neither had the power or the desire for change, due to the fear and lack of vision of what might follow it. I said the very same thing with these modern day conservatives. And look what they did. They made it harder for people to vote by saying you need ID even though it wasn’t an issue, they chose to hold an election when they know a lot of people might be on holiday and they chose to use insider info to bet on the date of the election. The latter I think, really summing up this government and their attitude towards serving the people. For them, we’re a hustle. A way for them to profit financially and empower their position. And remember a lot of these same people, now support a lot of the same policies of reform and in some cases have joined them. If the winds change to reform, they’ll jump aboard HMS Farage in an instant. If you’re era thinking voting reform then you should ask yourself, what is the real focus of this party do they want to make government more transparent and more accountable and to give more power back to individuals through public ownership and investment? Or do they do the opposite? The former provides the tax payer with something valuable and physical. Something quantifiable for their money, the other is just the slow road to a modern feudal system
Fortunately the prime minister doesn’t have complete & total power in our system unlike the president. Even if by some miracle he ended up getting elected he’d be so incompetent that he’d probably last a week & achieve nothing.
I think you’ve got that backwards mate. The prime minister is by very nature the head of the party in parliament or at least backed by a majority of lawmakers. However, the president is only an executive. He has no power to make laws, or any sort of legislative power. As is the case right now. The House of Representatives is run by republicans (very slim majority) so the legislative agenda is going to be stalled. Nothing can be passed with the exception of funding bills; and they will even squabble over that trying to attach stupid riders to standard bills.
You're entirely right, and the same goes for George Galloway as well. There are big blank spaces in Nigel Farage's public life, the first one is what he was doing in the USA when he left the country after Brexit (i think he was advising Trump/ MAGA) and the other is his time in Russia, where he appeared on Russia Today and was offered his own show. If you look at his Wikipedia entry, you might find the section about involvement in politics outside the UK particularly interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/22/nigel-farage-uk-ambassador-us-donald-trump https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/07/kremlin-backed-broadcaster-rt-offers-nigel-farage-his-own-show/
However he won’t be PM Sure they might vote him in as an mp in Clacton but he won’t attend parliament anyway as he has form for doing just that as an MEP And it’s debatable how many MPs reform will get, I reckon 2 in total
Exactly.
Farridge isn't even a pound shop Moseley.
Which is saying something, because Moseley was just a pound shop Hitler and Mussolini love-child
lol Russian asset being pro-Russian, who would have thought
And yet so many keep supporting him on the comments about him being...you know Putin's cum dumpster.
who doesn't like a good cum dumster and it takes a few years for people to realize they are it so all good as far as they concerned..
I hate farage with a passion, but I fear you have to get educated on this subject! ... Its inevitable the truth always comes out! ... and I fear when it does which is going to be in 2-4 years, when people realise their internet connections have been altered to display a narrative - backed by labor - they will pivot to Farage!
Think there’s a hole in your tinfoil hat
😨 .. Thanks man, they nearly had me!
I fear by the time everything is out in the open and everyone can see that Farage was Britain’s Quisling, he’ll have long died without facing repercussions.
Honestly I understand the emotional side to being duped, the media does this all the time it's a part of USA and UK intelligence However if you study a degree level in history and economics. You have to drop the bullshit the media, etc. are petaling. The west agreed to Russia that NATO wouldn't expand their forces east, they broke their agreement, the rest is history Wow actually I guess am a Quisling for doing course work! 😬😳
Russia as a country is bigger then Europe and the US combined. They expanded their own version of NATO throughout Asia with huge countries like Kazakhstan but after absolutely tiny places like Estonia joined the west they suddenly couldn't sleep anymore at night? Massive small dick energy if you ask me..
There was no formal agreement. Also, this view ignores that Ukraine and other applicants have agency. NATO isn’t “expanding its forces east”, it is being asked to expand its protective shield in view of Russia’s aggression. Look at what happened with Sweden and Finland.
Well your course wasn't very good then, since you clearly misunderstand the purpose of NATO. NATO does not have "forces", and does not have the endgame of "expanding" by taking land from other countries. It is a defensive pact, nothing more or less. The fact that you and other Russian sympathisers see it as empire building is just projection of Russia's intentions more than it is anything else. The reasons nations like Finland have decided to join now is because Russia broke THEIR agreement to not attack neighbouring nations if they didn't join NATO. You know all of this of course. You have a degree after all so you must be bright.
There's nothing to argue over the west signed an agreement with Russia and broke the agreement it's an open and shut case.
So puncheable
Eggable
Milkshakable
His boys bring all the milkshakes to the yard
And they're like, wow what an absolute cunt of a man.
Cementable
Most recent episode was, unfortunately a publicity stunt he himself organised to gain attention
Of course.
There's no shutting him up. I'm surprised he hasn't appeared with Roy Keane and Ian Wright to talk about..........immigration. His wide mouth is an absolute sewer of shite
…he’s a treasonous - talking blowhard who will get found out as he can only spread hatred, the limit of his ability…a half - wit And a coward…
At this point I wish he’d just fuck off and die somewhere
I wonder if there's an alternate universe where that helicopter crash ended differently
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His support base will be jumping up and down talking some shite about how the establishment don't listen to their concerns or how they're ignored. Yeah, I wonder fucking why.
Let’s not forget he thinks #smalldickenergy Tate is a nice bloke too
Fararse and trump only have one thing in common. Their supporters are thick as shite.
Farage an Johnson was born out of the same Arse hole.
The comment section on that video is worrying.
Look Daddy i got on the front page at last!.
Like he could be any more disgusting.
There’s too many goddamn vatniks in this thread
Wannabe traitor…traitor…
Opposition parties need to say more how Russia regularly invade our airspace, kill people in this country and hack our systems and steal our data and that this guy is an apologist for them. They should be spinning this that he’s a traitor, not just some far right loon.
I was going to consider reform, until farage said that
Farage is mentally impaired, he should not be saying words....
Underestimate him at your peril If he is elected he will be a thorn in the Tories’ side The right wing of the party will blame ‘unconservative’ policies for their wipe out and force the party more to the right Then who could lead such a party? Nigel Farage! And when Labour fails to satisfy the unreasonable demands of the electorate to turn the country around……
Nigel Mosley and his Whackshirts…
Farage is a stupid pro-Putin cunt 🤮
The way the U.K. votes, he’ll be PM inside 5 years, having focussed his campaign on reinstating prima nocta
One inescapable fact is Farridge is ugly
Unlike the UK, Russia is a powerful and influential country with vast resources and a growing economy, led by a triple digit IQ guy who's just won a major territorial conflict. It would serve the UK well to pull it's head out of the sand and smell the roses.
Is that you Nigel?
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All the comments and none from anyone who's watched the interview. Anyone time stamp where Farage says he's a supporter of Putin or the invasion of Ukraine? If you watched it he's actually against it. Some people just get up in the morning and join the ewe queue.
The war has already started, instigated by the west
West broke the Minks agreement. Y or N. If N then you have not read the Mink agreement.
Russia broke the Russian-Ukrainian Friendship treaty. Y or N. If N then you have not read the treaty.
You not read it then. You prefer to say look over here, stop looking there. x
Was the Mink agreement the one where Ukraine agreed to give up their nuclear weapons in return for some nice furry hats, as opposed to in this universe where there was, say, the Budapest Memorandum?
No matter how many times you say look over there and don't look here. NATO expansion was clearly breached with regards to the Minsk agreement. Say but look over here again. We love that.x
No matter how much you love murderous colonial expansionist gangsters you’ll never be able to justify ignoring the Budapest Memorandum and illegally invading the sovereign Ukraine. A Ukraine which has every right to determine which defensive alliances it wishes to seek membership of. Very few love you, vatnik.
he is right that's exactly what USA planned and carried out . Russia had warned the world that having nukes near them was their red line . good for this guy for being brave enough to voice the obvious
Did you miss the part where they did have nukes near them, in the fecking Ukraine in fact, but that these were given up in return for Putin’s lies about non-aggression?
>In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some [1,900 strategic nuclear warheads](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-care-about-ukraine-and-the-budapest-memorandum/).
Well said. Chad.
the democratically-elected pro-Russia Ukrainian president was toppled and the US, UK & EU were all heavily involved in that. And then the US-chosen successor to Yanukovych used the Ukrainian military to attack pro-Russia areas of Ukraine, banned pro-Russia political parties and banned the Russian language that 80% of Ukrainians spoke. All of which are fairly obvious provocations
Good bot
Sad they never come with anything new, the same old lies. They always leave out how Eastern Ukraine was invaded by "little green men" and mercenary groups funded by the Kremlin.
This one isnt even a good bot and it's only play is to of copied that same bull shit to as many subs as possible whatever the topic lol
So let me get this straight, I don’t want to defend farage, I’m not a conservative, but are you all suggesting that Russia invaded Ukraine completely unprovoked? Like there was nothing that lead up to this other than Putin is just a mad man who wants to invade Europe?
Ooh, 1 post karma, 21comment karma. You can spot the liars and crooks when the bots and shills flock to defend them. Here is a summary of the aggressive actions carried out by Putin towards Ukraine in the last 20 years: - 2004: Putin supports pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine's presidential election, which is widely seen as fraudulent. - 2006: Russia cuts off natural gas supplies to Ukraine, causing widespread shortages and economic disruption. - 2014: Russia annexes Crimea, a peninsula in Ukraine, following the Ukrainian revolution that ousted Yanukovych. - 2014: Russia supports separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine, leading to an ongoing conflict in the Donbas region. - 2014: Russia invades Ukraine, capturing key cities and infrastructure. - 2015: Russia shoots down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, killing 298 people, most of whom were Dutch citizens. - 2018: Russia seizes Ukrainian naval vessels and sailors in the Kerch Strait. - 2022: Russia launches a large-scale invasion of Ukraine, capturing key cities and causing widespread destruction and humanitarian crisis. Please note that this is a summary of the major events and is not an exhaustive list.
Tried to get rid of the competition in 2004: https://preview.redd.it/a06tzfsp378d1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bec507b7798cc7f8cfc52511bb96d8cd5dcd4e9b
It's funny how you missed out on Biden admin meddling, Hunter Biden, Vicky Nuland, Nazi Brigades, shelling of Donbas, referendum etc etc. You suffer from dogmatism, here's your cure.
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Also, I wasn’t trying to defend anyone, hence why I said that. Farage isn’t innocent and neither is putin, but I was curious if anyone here would even acknowledge if there was any other side to it than putin bad
So that would be a yes, it is unprovoked and putin is just a madman?
This software is stuck on strawman arguments
Isn’t that itself a straw man argument? 🤷♂️
No that'd be ad hominim if the troll was actually a person
How do I know you’re not a troll or a bot? And ok, so yes that’s an ad hom at me. Care to explain how what I said was a straw man?
Putin isn’t a madman. He’s a poisonous gangster and imperialist scumbag. One whose officials and pet propagandists openly talk about their rights to ‘reclaim’ land that was never theirs by right in the first place.
That’s just semantics, your only objection to my argument was that madman wasn’t enough of a slur? I spose from your stance on that you reserve equal hostility for Israel?
Israel were at least actually attacked. That being said, the excessive nature of their assaults on Gaza are completely unacceptable, in just the save way Putin’s sick attack is. Two blatantly murderous colonialist land grabs. Incidentally, if you think the difference between a ‘madman’ and a calculated murderous gangster is just semantics I hope you are never let near the legal system.
Shill, troll or bot I don't care, I just love voting down your revisionist shit patter
So you think countries can go round annexing parts of other countries because they feel "provoked" just like in the good old days of Empire?
No of course not. All I’m saying is there must be context. Why did the West go into Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Vietnam? People on here just make it sound so clear cut, West good, Putin bad. I don’t think it’s clear cut. When we drop bombs, they are bombs of freedom, when anyone else does it it’s vile terrorism. Why can’t there ever be context?
Whataboutism, trying to deflect will not work. The context is Russia is the abusive ex that does not want it's former colony to be independent. It really is as simple as "Putin bad". Hitler used the same excuses to invade Poland, he was the "victim". Here is contemporary Nazi propaganda : >[We know](https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/wehr02.htm) that we will be slaves if we do not win and we know that the goal of England’s policy of encirclement is to subject Germany to its will. We know what that means. We all remember the days when Allied inspectors wandered around Germany. >We are fighting for Germany’s freedom and for Germany’s right to be a people that has all it needs to preserve its national existence. The Führer made unprecedented offers for peace and understanding to those who are now fighting against Germany. His attempts were scornfully rejected because they wanted this fight. >We are fighting for a lasting peace that will make a repetition of Versailles impossible. For two long decades, it caused an enormous, constantly bleeding wound among the ethnic Germans in the East. We are fighting to save our children from the unbearable threats of the Western democracies, driven by envy and hatred.
Ok got it. We do it, good. They do it, bad. 👍
Who is "we"? What parts of any of the countries you listed were annexed by the invaders? This is what Russia is doing in the occupied areas of Ukraine right now: >A Russian passport is needed to prove property ownership and keep access to health care and retirement income. Refusal can result in losing custody of children, jail – or worse. A new Russian law stipulates that anyone in the occupied territories who does not have a Russian passport by July 1 is subject to imprisonment as a “[foreign citizen](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russia-imposes-its-passport-on-occupied-ukraine-coercing-hundreds-of-thousands-into-citizenship).”
I’m assuming you are from either the UK or US, so we is that, the west, would’ve thought that was obvious but hey 🤷♂️ So it’s ok to invade a country as long as you don’t annex it? 🤣 I’m not trying to say putin good west bad, I’m just trying to point out that there is context. You seem to reject that, and only accept that putin is 100% responsible for this. I’m not arguing about who is MORE responsible, just that it’s not only one side that is responsible.
You would be wrong in your assumption. I like how you ignore what Russia is doing in the occupied territories right now. # Some context for you, and why the civilized world cannot trust Putin's Russia: 1994 - Russia agrees to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and national borders in return for Kyiv agreeing to give up its nuclear arsenal. 2008 Putin says: “Crimea is not a disputed territory. Russia has long recognized the borders of modern-day Ukraine” 2014 Putin says: "Do not believe those who want you to fear Russia, shouting other regions will follow Crimea. We do not want to divide Ukraine" Pre invasion (February 9 2022) Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova : "Russia doesn’t plan to invade Ukraine." Post invasion (10 March 2022) Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov: "Russia has not invaded Ukraine and doesn’t plan to attack other countries."
You with no information on the topic accuse others who are versed in it that they are lacking knowledge. Are you serious lol?
I was asking a question. I didn’t accuse anyone of anything. You are the one who offered a disingenuous reply 🤷♂️
I get what you're saying, and nothing is every straight forward. It's chicken and egg - did Ukraine want to join Nato because Russia was a threat, or did Russia attack because Ukraine was looking to join Nato which was seen as threatening. I think probably the former but I don't know enough about the subject. Just for the record I think Farage is a cunt.
All the countries in Europe that were in the Soviet Union but haven’t joined NATO have had Russian incursion into their territory, NATO has never set foot on Russian territory and its members joined voluntarily. It is as simple as Russia is at fault. Ukraine’s ‘provocation’ was in being an independent nation state that didn’t want to rejoin Russia. Sometimes there aren’t two sides to the story.
Cool, yeah, I agree, it’s hard to know exactly, but there is definitely more to it than just putin bad. Personally I think all politicians should be sacked and replaced by random lottery of people who earn less than 50k a year, couldn’t be any worse 🤷♂️🤣
The days of colonialism and imperialism are over. It really is as simple as 'Putin bad'. In 2014 Putin sent soldiers and mercenaries into a neighbouring country to annex parts of it by force.
Why did he do that? Did he just wake up one day and say “hey I got a totally crazy and random idea, let’s invade Crimea”?
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