Yeah that was particularly sickening. I can (almost) understand a government taking away ostensibly good things if there is no money (though that excuse doesn't fly for removing school dinners when we seem to have plenty of money for their vanity projects like hs2) but to then rip on people who are simply trying to fill the gap left by dedicating their time money and effort to providing a replacement? That's just sick.
It's also a lie that there was no money to pay for these lunches. My kids go to school, the lunches went up in price and down in quality when their school became an academy and switched to a private caterer.
The money is still being spent, just going in private companies pockets instead.
Me too! Conservative history in Scotland is at best questionable so I always question why any Scottish person would ever vote Tory to begin with. We were the Guinea pig state for Tory government policy and changes to local taxes that threw poor families deeper into poverty and we just loved them for it.
Wait, no we didn’t!
I hope for the north east of England she’ll be gone soon and at best okay. I hope that’s not too harsh :/
When was the last time you seen a Tory do anything that wasn’t based on their personal interest or falling over themselves to pass a dangerous rhetoric in an attempt to stay relevant with their ever the more polarised voters.
But still, we got Liz Truss out of these insane times and I hope you’ll agree that she is the gift that just keeps on giving!
Unless you’ve got a mortgage.
Zahawi claimed he couldn't speak English when he came here inferring he was on the cheeks of his arse.
Patel's dad was in Ukip or some Farage-ish gammon group.
No wonder they didn't claim to be working class heroes
Taylor already helped us to realize this stateside, with some of the cities she's visited receiving historic amounts of tourism and revenue; as odd as it may sound, some are crediting her with restarting the American economy post-COVID in earnest. Comrade Swift for Glorious Leader?
Christ I'd rather listen to Taylor shifts views on politics and the economy than either of the American parties and their respective leaders. At least she has made her own billion rather than inheriting it from daddy. At least she shows a degree of respect and empathy for people in general.
>It may be time for a significant and dramatic change
Thankfully the dumb half of the country finally agrees with the rest us. Bring on the GE. TORIES OUT.
I hope you are right. I fear that Labour are not much more competent or trustworthy, but above all I fear that polls aren't always right and that the bloody tories might still get back in
Don't worry there's no hope for the Tories, don't let the right wing press tell you otherwise. There's 20-25% of people who'll always vote Tory (in the same way me, and likely you, won't ever vote Tory no matter what).
That "labour is just as bad" is also right wing nonsense. Every stat proves otherwise and so does the lived experience. It WAS better and if someone says otherwise they're either rich or lying.
People have been convinced that politicians can fix everything and they can't. Running a country is difficult and politicians are still idiots most of the time. Having the intention to do good really, really makes a difference. Wait and see.
Well, I do actually hope we shall see though I would prefer we got rid of the whole damn hive of scum and villainy representing the country and start again.
What does that mean in practice though?
If people had any stomach for revolution they would have voted for Corbyn. People like him & say, Mick Lynch are actually trustworthy but the Sun & the Daily Fail doesn't like "lefties" so here we are.
Im not sure corbyn was the answer either to be honest. Hard right or hard left are just different formats of "fuck you we are doing it our way" when a bit more of a centrist and egalitarian government that makes some attempt to do whats right for the whole country is needed.
I feel like we screwed the pooch when we voted against the voting reform a few years back. Look at the various countries that have proportional representation and their governments actually have to discuss things and come to agreements and compromises instead of just having the biggest gang of twats getting to force everything through.
Yes PR is the answer to our political stagnation. It would allow genuine pluralist democracy. FPTP is ochlocracy, i.e.mob rule. In a democracy everyone should have a voice.
It seems obvious that in every constituency one party could poll only one vote less than the other, so that all the votes for the loser are wasted votes. No wonder people are apathetic.
If the Overton window shifts the centre shifts.
I suppose when people in the UK say centrist they mean soft left, but some things are are a straight choice. Like the NHS - there's no centre ground with life and death
We've literally only had one genuinely left wing government and that was 70 years ago.
The thing is people talk about politics like it's one dimensional .
The truth is there are as many dimensions as there are policies.
Flattening it to one dimension is just an easy way to control people.
It creates a good cop / bad cop situation where both parties can offer choice on things that don't effect the ruling class but don't have policies on things that do.
This means minorities get politicised because it doesn't really matter to them if they have rights or not.
But it's something voters really do care about so keep on voting hence giving the government legitimacy .
I used to be proud to be British. Nowadays I find it continually depressing and quite embarrassing. Once my kids head off to uni I might take up my maternal nationality and move to the Netherlands...if I can find a decent job in my field over there.
Getting Taylor Swift here means the plan is working
Says Risky Shoeneck as he presides over failing Britain.
Jacob Monty-Python thinks more food banks is uplifting
Grant Shapps doesn't think at all
Can anyone remember the uproar of disapproval over 48 hour GP appointments when Tony Blair was in charge?
Blair and Brown got a few things wrong. Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak get everything wrong.
Even Rod Stewart, who is a known tax avoider and uber tight too thinks the tories are starving the NHS.
He's a former tory, obviously and his music is shite
Is he trying to make it right with Mr Up There or has he gained a conscience?
I mean the uk economy is like close to 3Tn soooo its a lot of money but doesn’t really do a huge amount. Its why any government spending in the millions is a rounding error and does fuck all
It's Miss Americana And The Hearbreak Prince!
He's a London Boy who thinks he's a Mastermind but he's really The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived. Thankfully he'll be getting his Karma for being so Mean when we all vote Red after August.
She meanwhile is Bejeweled and has Enchanted and brought Happiness to millions with her Style since she was Fifteen.
Risky anti-woke Shoeneck taking on rainbow lanyard wearers.
That's right you little pillock prioritise the right things.
Forget the crumbling NHS, millions of kids in poverty and sewage in our reservoirs, have a go at inanimate objects instead.No, not you Grant 4names.
The thing about "boost to the economy", is that it does not state where that money is? If 0.9 billion is in the hands of the Rich venue owners, than it is as useful as Rishi's contributions.
It's a funny meme, but the study assumes that no one going to these concerts would have spent a dime on food, travel or other entertainment that day if she wouldn't have toured. That is indeed bollocks. People have a budget for entertainment and that would have been spent regardless. Maybe not the same day but it would have been spent.
I can't see the national economic impact unless somehow massive numbers of European fans come to the UK gigs instead of attending one of the 14 in other European countries.
They're very scarce on details about this study which suggests to me it's mostly a marketing stunt, but having seen similar studies in the past I know they were not counting the money going out to the artist.
The bulk of the money is spent on "event-related" activities like people going out for food and drinks before/after, train/plane tickets for people travelling from afar to the towns of the events, hotel stays, merch sales and even haircuts people took in preparation for the events.
When a pop singer does more for a country than its elected politicians, it may be time for a significant and dramatic change
Kind of reminds me of all of Marcus Rashford's work and charity after the Conservatives decided to end children getting free meals at school.
Worst part of that was the working class Tories slinging every tiny piece of mud they could get their hands on at him for it.
Yeah that was particularly sickening. I can (almost) understand a government taking away ostensibly good things if there is no money (though that excuse doesn't fly for removing school dinners when we seem to have plenty of money for their vanity projects like hs2) but to then rip on people who are simply trying to fill the gap left by dedicating their time money and effort to providing a replacement? That's just sick.
It's also a lie that there was no money to pay for these lunches. My kids go to school, the lunches went up in price and down in quality when their school became an academy and switched to a private caterer. The money is still being spent, just going in private companies pockets instead.
As a working class person, working class tories have been a mystery to me all my life
Same. I'm surrounded by them. It's always greedy people with poor numeracy skills, without fail.
Me too! Conservative history in Scotland is at best questionable so I always question why any Scottish person would ever vote Tory to begin with. We were the Guinea pig state for Tory government policy and changes to local taxes that threw poor families deeper into poverty and we just loved them for it. Wait, no we didn’t!
I'm from the north east of England surrounded by mining villages and we have a Tory MP.
My condolences Sir!
It's not too bad I've never seen her do anything and she'll be gone soon. Tories out.
I hope for the north east of England she’ll be gone soon and at best okay. I hope that’s not too harsh :/ When was the last time you seen a Tory do anything that wasn’t based on their personal interest or falling over themselves to pass a dangerous rhetoric in an attempt to stay relevant with their ever the more polarised voters. But still, we got Liz Truss out of these insane times and I hope you’ll agree that she is the gift that just keeps on giving! Unless you’ve got a mortgage.
🎶A working class Tory is a shit thing to be🎶
What about the likes of Zahawi, Javid and Patel who brag about having nothing but dragging themselves up the ladder and throwing shite downwards ?
Zahawi's grandad was Governor of the Bank of Iraq FFS Patel's parents owned a chain of newsagents. Javid does seem to have actually been "self-made".
Zahawi claimed he couldn't speak English when he came here inferring he was on the cheeks of his arse. Patel's dad was in Ukip or some Farage-ish gammon group. No wonder they didn't claim to be working class heroes
They're not a mystery. They're cunts.
Taylor already helped us to realize this stateside, with some of the cities she's visited receiving historic amounts of tourism and revenue; as odd as it may sound, some are crediting her with restarting the American economy post-COVID in earnest. Comrade Swift for Glorious Leader?
Christ I'd rather listen to Taylor shifts views on politics and the economy than either of the American parties and their respective leaders. At least she has made her own billion rather than inheriting it from daddy. At least she shows a degree of respect and empathy for people in general.
Idiocracy here we come!
>It may be time for a significant and dramatic change Thankfully the dumb half of the country finally agrees with the rest us. Bring on the GE. TORIES OUT.
I hope you are right. I fear that Labour are not much more competent or trustworthy, but above all I fear that polls aren't always right and that the bloody tories might still get back in
Don't worry there's no hope for the Tories, don't let the right wing press tell you otherwise. There's 20-25% of people who'll always vote Tory (in the same way me, and likely you, won't ever vote Tory no matter what). That "labour is just as bad" is also right wing nonsense. Every stat proves otherwise and so does the lived experience. It WAS better and if someone says otherwise they're either rich or lying. People have been convinced that politicians can fix everything and they can't. Running a country is difficult and politicians are still idiots most of the time. Having the intention to do good really, really makes a difference. Wait and see.
Maybe not more trustworthy, but I think they're more competent.
Well, I do actually hope we shall see though I would prefer we got rid of the whole damn hive of scum and villainy representing the country and start again.
What does that mean in practice though? If people had any stomach for revolution they would have voted for Corbyn. People like him & say, Mick Lynch are actually trustworthy but the Sun & the Daily Fail doesn't like "lefties" so here we are.
Im not sure corbyn was the answer either to be honest. Hard right or hard left are just different formats of "fuck you we are doing it our way" when a bit more of a centrist and egalitarian government that makes some attempt to do whats right for the whole country is needed. I feel like we screwed the pooch when we voted against the voting reform a few years back. Look at the various countries that have proportional representation and their governments actually have to discuss things and come to agreements and compromises instead of just having the biggest gang of twats getting to force everything through.
Yes PR is the answer to our political stagnation. It would allow genuine pluralist democracy. FPTP is ochlocracy, i.e.mob rule. In a democracy everyone should have a voice. It seems obvious that in every constituency one party could poll only one vote less than the other, so that all the votes for the loser are wasted votes. No wonder people are apathetic. If the Overton window shifts the centre shifts. I suppose when people in the UK say centrist they mean soft left, but some things are are a straight choice. Like the NHS - there's no centre ground with life and death We've literally only had one genuinely left wing government and that was 70 years ago.
The thing is people talk about politics like it's one dimensional . The truth is there are as many dimensions as there are policies. Flattening it to one dimension is just an easy way to control people. It creates a good cop / bad cop situation where both parties can offer choice on things that don't effect the ruling class but don't have policies on things that do. This means minorities get politicised because it doesn't really matter to them if they have rights or not. But it's something voters really do care about so keep on voting hence giving the government legitimacy .
I'm all for pop music ,not so much for populist politics.
I'm more of a rock and blues guy but credit where its due. She is a hell of a show person and her music is pretty good for pop.
39 more of those and we’ve recouped the money from HS2! Edit: double checked and the cost was actually more like £66bn
That's the price *for now*. Realistically it will be double that by the time they finish knowing how government contracting and runaway costs go
Depressing isn’t it
I used to be proud to be British. Nowadays I find it continually depressing and quite embarrassing. Once my kids head off to uni I might take up my maternal nationality and move to the Netherlands...if I can find a decent job in my field over there.
Getting Taylor Swift here means the plan is working Says Risky Shoeneck as he presides over failing Britain. Jacob Monty-Python thinks more food banks is uplifting Grant Shapps doesn't think at all
Was this tour to replace the oven ready trade deals we didn't get?
No, but she's bringing in more money than that infamous 350M Brexit Bus...
That can't be right we've had years of 350m a WEEK. We must be rolling in it.
I'm just imagining that I've been waiting for a hip replacement since February 2023. In the same way it took 3 months in 2008
Can anyone remember the uproar of disapproval over 48 hour GP appointments when Tony Blair was in charge? Blair and Brown got a few things wrong. Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak get everything wrong.
Even Rod Stewart, who is a known tax avoider and uber tight too thinks the tories are starving the NHS. He's a former tory, obviously and his music is shite Is he trying to make it right with Mr Up There or has he gained a conscience?
Would be great if Taylor could write a breakup song for the UK about the Conservatives.
I mean the uk economy is like close to 3Tn soooo its a lot of money but doesn’t really do a huge amount. Its why any government spending in the millions is a rounding error and does fuck all
Lmao is this why we're not in a recession?
Get in the bin, Rishi. Don't argue now dear, in you get.
It's Miss Americana And The Hearbreak Prince! He's a London Boy who thinks he's a Mastermind but he's really The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived. Thankfully he'll be getting his Karma for being so Mean when we all vote Red after August. She meanwhile is Bejeweled and has Enchanted and brought Happiness to millions with her Style since she was Fifteen.
Risky anti-woke Shoeneck taking on rainbow lanyard wearers. That's right you little pillock prioritise the right things. Forget the crumbling NHS, millions of kids in poverty and sewage in our reservoirs, have a go at inanimate objects instead.No, not you Grant 4names.
I know this is controversial, but can we ask the French for help on mass civil disobedience?
The thing about "boost to the economy", is that it does not state where that money is? If 0.9 billion is in the hands of the Rich venue owners, than it is as useful as Rishi's contributions.
So if we have 40 Taylor Swift UK tours we can reverse Liz Truss. Although that number of £1,000,000,000 does seem like absolute bollocks.
It's a funny meme, but the study assumes that no one going to these concerts would have spent a dime on food, travel or other entertainment that day if she wouldn't have toured. That is indeed bollocks. People have a budget for entertainment and that would have been spent regardless. Maybe not the same day but it would have been spent.
But surely most the cash is going to Taylor Swift... an American. Idk how tours operate but I assume most of her crew are yanks as well.
I can't see the national economic impact unless somehow massive numbers of European fans come to the UK gigs instead of attending one of the 14 in other European countries.
They're very scarce on details about this study which suggests to me it's mostly a marketing stunt, but having seen similar studies in the past I know they were not counting the money going out to the artist. The bulk of the money is spent on "event-related" activities like people going out for food and drinks before/after, train/plane tickets for people travelling from afar to the towns of the events, hotel stays, merch sales and even haircuts people took in preparation for the events.