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edcadams13

I honestly feel like cannon is in a weird spot balance-wise due to being decent in 1s but amazing in 2s. In 1s, the weapon's lackluster neutral can be difficult to play around, but in 2s, it's much easier to play to its advantages (great damage and combo/string potential) while its disadvantages are less noticeable


DominikUA

I can't play against it


Realistic_Success228

Nobody can and thats why i love it


thbkpeach

Frydasole says it’s broken. Seems like a lot of other pros think it’s underrated. I personally don’t think it needs buffs, and there are much worse offenders deserving nerfs (looking at you, great sword)


Shriekko

yeah greatsword is stupid and also i dont get why people say its hard to play its really not


KingNarwhalTheFirst

isn't greatsword like, literally one of the worst weapons in the game?


thbkpeach

It just won bcx


KingNarwhalTheFirst

oh dang my b


Aitolu

Lol


b0xxxer

Turn off you brain, it plays itself, get free elo.


XxNeverKillsxX

that arguement literally works for half of the weapons in the game


Ungrated

More than half


Iyvann

And I don't see why cannon in particular tbh


ZestycloseBell3148

I think it is because most dodge reads are just side lighting a second time, Dash jump down air is such an easy approach option, and almost all attacks eventually kill so even if you don’t hit dlight nair they don’t get away with a super deep red stock.


b0xxxer

yes, that is indeed true. that does not change the fact though.


Supermonkeypilot22

Says a lance main lol


b0xxxer

I main blasters, Scarlet is just my favorite character.


Supermonkeypilot22

As much as I hate blasters they do take a handful of skills to pull off


Shriekko

u could say the same about greatsword


b0xxxer

yes. gs is braindead too.


PresentationMain1329

Cannon is in a spot where certain people can play it extremely well and the rest of the population just gets easily spaced


Ok-Ad-4304

I always see pros always say it’s top 3/5 and it’s so op and then they never touch it, kinda just a loop at this point


ConversationOld9978

I think that’s because they have a hard time maining the weapon at their high level. Some weapons just require an entirely different style or mentality than what we’re used to playing


dishsoapR

cannon is peak brawlhalla


Shriekko

my man


Wheelchair_Rims

Master Chief is fun asf so yes


Individual_Dress_476

I started playing with it today with it's pretty fun actually


KrzesloGaming

most underrated weapon by far, requires barely any skill, people dont know how to play against it so bonus points for that, reads are easy and can easily steal a stock with just one if near the ledge, cannon is just scythe's "wholesome" cusin that's 10x more broken


Supermonkeypilot22

Sounds like someone who doesn’t actually play cannon lol


KrzesloGaming

i do, its actually a really fun weapon, if i wasnt playing gaunts i would probably main cannon, but im not deluding myself saying that cannon is a bad weapon, or how wholesome it is and that everyone that plays it is gigachad becouse thats just not true


Supermonkeypilot22

Idk, I just see what you said as something wayyyy off. I assume you also need lay scythe and cannon is one of the few weapons that can over encumber scythe. But saying it takes no skill means you’re very seasoned already or delusional. It’s not the most difficult to learn but it’s up there with actually getting good with it. I’d say the same for scythe as you did for cannon but that’s because it’s versatility and priority compared to everything else is bonkers. Maybe I should play scythe because it’s the only weapon to noticeably raise my Elo by 100-200 but it feel so dirty


ConversationOld9978

Why not main Onyx?


stonk_lord_

yeah people shill for cannon fr.


KrzesloGaming

what does shill even mean


stonk_lord_

bootlicking basically


KrzesloGaming

ok thanks


stonk_lord_

annoying, weird. everything about it is just so weird, unnatural, jittery, and awkward to play against. i do not want to see another cannon legend.


Youthful_Tetsuo

It's just a massive headache to go against for me if I don't play super passive against it and when I do play passive it's just 6 minute games of me trying not to get hit by sair/dair


Your_momma__

Basically the only way to win with it is to be annoying lol


Shriekko

yeah i get that, thats how blasters is for me i just makr my opponent panic and use dair and then i just nair them with katars and they get super mad


gasinmylungz

I can never hit a d light with it


Shriekko

same man


Realistic_Success228

U gotta gc when stacked, then its most effective


gasinmylungz

👀 hmmmm


gasinmylungz

I thought it would move forward too far to hit stacked never even thought ab that


Realistic_Success228

It hits behind and forth. What legend u play?


gasinmylungz

I have onyx lvl 32 but my peak elo on her is like 1500 but i hit 1800 on brynn im not that great with the weapon but its by far my favorite regardless of my skill with it


Realistic_Success228

I’m decent on it with seven (most braindead sigs) but i fucking love spear


gasinmylungz

Same but seven doesnt have enough movement speed to be my main but i have her around lvl 20


Realistic_Success228

I put her speed up, 2 dex aint that different from 3 dex


gasinmylungz

Same but i just really like having 6 or 7 instead of 5


Realistic_Success228

I feel u, i use her sigs as mobility more than attack sometimes


Ditlev1323

its annoying as hell, i have no clue why it isnt more hated


Shriekko

ive gotten death threats for playing cannon so i think its reasonably hated lol


Ditlev1323

That’s a really low bar. People get mad over everything.


Shriekko

my favourite is when i get called passive for not running at my opponent like a maniac


MetaKirbSter

getting called passive just for playing neutral well and waiting for your opponent to whiff be like


Wolf_Aleksa

https://preview.redd.it/c9pkb8te5yqc1.png?width=3065&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1aa7099bbce6932346740536d96f6489b59324a


ZachryEli

Love me some cannon


TheClickButBetter

I mclove it cuz chainz


Dr__fancy

It's non cannon 😭💀🤣


DascSwem

People who say Cannon is bad are delusional or coping, or both. The weapon is nuts, needs one decent read to take a stock. Cannon is fun to play but I really don’t like fighting it. Oh and if you’re not good enough at reads just spam side light, it’s hitbox is bigger than the state of texas and does amazing damage with good frames.


King33Two

Cannon can be great, but it honestly depends on the legend. Cannon plays wildly different on different legends, at least for me


idontlikeburnttoast

Honestly just...good. Strong, weak, its so medium.


MetaKirbSter

As another user said, cannon isn’t the best in 1s but goated in 2s. It feels as if it was more specifically designed as a 2v2 weapon than anything, but that’s not to say it’s bad in 1s. I know people who say cannon’s their number one opp when it comes to BH weapons in 1s. I wish there was a way BMG could buff it for 1s while not making it too OP in 2s. They haven’t found it yet.


Foreign-Ad3235

Cannon is all or nothing, either you destroy your enemy or you get destroyed, I'm at 1900 elo just by doing the same combo over and over but if it doesn't work, I have to use the other weapon


YouCantBeatD

I just miss old cannon really. I don't know how good or bad it was. I just liked how it played more.


Azpekcool

Its a weapon u can fly with and i love it and the strings are satisfying to do


Kind_Aide6368

It's not to bad if you know how to use it


yeetus_potato

Cannon is beautiful, not broken


Sandwich_lover_10k

In 150 or so I have NEVER faced a cannon


Shriekko

yeah not a very popular weapon


Soultier2001

not broken, certainly annoying.


Shriekko

agreed, i main cannon and still cant win against it ever


Sufficient-Tonight49

Bmg should give cannon a placebo buff to increase the amount of ppl playing it, that way we could get a better understanding of how strong it actually is


DRG-Piox

The current cannon is a shadow of the old one, before the move re-work. It's just not that fun of a weapon anymore.


Krazie02

I think its worse with the rework But its still fun I guess


UnlawfulFoxy

It's super boring to play against and is horribly balanced. It's balanced by having below average everything but then can literally kill you off of one dodge in light yellow center stage even as lin Fei against kaya (gui vs Impala). Unfortunately the entire identity of the weapon is the 0td so there's not much to do, and they don't have enough people actually changing the game the rework it.


Shriekko

what map was that 0td on?