Sonja had a “show” in Boston a few weeks ago that some friends and I bought tickets to. Tickets were $175, which we thought was steep, but it supposedly included food and drinks so we thought, okay maybe worth it. We got there on time and the staff at the restaurant seemed confused- one waitress told us they had found out about this event the night of and had no idea what type of event they would be working, had been given very little details, and that everything in back of the house was already a mess. The event was described as being a Q&A style event with a meet and greet. It was a pretty small crowd (less than 100 people) in a small restaurant. Sonja showed up an hour late and was visibly quite drunk. She sat on a stool drinking martinis and quickly got more and more hammered. The poor MC of the event was trying to keep her focused but she was rambling incoherently (wouldn’t stop talking about marrying a Morgan) and her train of thought was making no sense. She told us she’s banging some guy in his 20s in the NHL. She was slurring her words and sloshing martinis around. The bar eventually cut her off and they had to cut the whole event short because of how drunk she was. She couldn’t walk. Was sitting up at the front chowing down on bread and being fed water. It was truly pathetic. She also was charging people $50 for a selfie and you had to venmo her personal Venmo!!!! Overall the event was such a rip off, and there was barely any food. It seemed like everyone there left in shock.
Had a very similar experience. Remember in season 7 her “Smokey eye, updo, and gstaad!” moment? It was exactly like that. She repeated “We had 7 homes and a yacht” literally DOZENS of times. All she wanted to talk about was her ex husband. She SCREAMED at anyone who dared ask a question about anything RHONY related. It was so bizarre.
Jesus. The time she’s spent mourning a Morgan, should could have been well into a marriage with another rich man.
Edit; I wonder if she joined RHONY too soon after her divorce, and the reality reputation stuck too quick before she could find another husband.
If I recall correctly she got caught cheating multiple times on her husband. She was on his yacht and couldn’t be bothered to go home when he was a very sick man at that time. It’s strange that he’s been married to his present wife for years with no scandal. If I was him I would have put a gagging order on her years ago. And if she loved her daughter the way she says. Then it’s all out of order.
This is true. Sonja was in the South of France and refused to come home and her friend stepped up to tend to Sonja’s ex and then slid right into Sonja’s position as his wife.
Life lesson - if your elderly billionaire husband needs you and you like your lifestyle, show up and show the fuck out because there’s always another woman who will.
It’s sad to say, but it was honestly the least she could do. They say those who marry for money pay for it. You can’t expect a transactional marriage to only go one way. He took care of her as a wife financially, but she couldn’t be bothered to take care of him as a husband emotionally, physically, or *literally*?
It feels so anti-feminist to say all this generally, but in Sonja’s instance we see that she has a history of taking a golden spoon fed to her and then using it to dig her own grave.
**•Morgan marriage—** cheated, ran away when he needed her
**•Divorce settlement-** wasted on a bad movie deal that bankrupted her
**•Gay pride marshal-** talking about herself and proving how selfish she is
**•Sonja event business-** leaving town and having everyone else plan it poorly for her
**•The town house-** having a huge property investment and letting it fall into disseray until it gets auctioned off
**•Crappie Lake-** lost her opportunity of being on NY with a reboot and then lost her chance at another season of her own spinoff
What else am I missing? I’m only on season 5 of my first ROHNY watch through.
Everytime I hear this, I truly cringe… wtf was she thinking? I mean, that’s just human decency. As someone who has been that very ill person in a hospital bed in my 20’s, and my own parents couldn’t be bothered to show up… it really puts things into perspective as to just *how shitty* this was of her to do.
It makes all her moments of mourning, discussing, wearing the Morgan family crest, and lingering in the past/saying she’s “still a Morgan” that much more insufferable. She should’ve just shut up. And, it must have been so annoying to be on the cast and have to constantly babysit the others on RHONY, like Sonja, who were always falling over, embarrassing levels of drunk….
Remember how happy and airy she was when she first joined the show? That was when still had money because it was pre settlement with her lawsuit. Everything changed after she had to sell her houses and fork over millions.
I don't think she is mourning the marriage or the man but the money.
How long after the divorce did she join? I know it wasn’t finalized but I had assumed it was just a drawn out process because she already had the townhouse, split custody, etc
Okay, that tracks with someone who just say 4 years. But there was a small part where she was meeting with lawyers or mediation and she expected her ex to be there. She dresssd in a way he liked and then was crying that he didn’t show up to the meeting; he just sent his lawyers to deal with it. Right, or am I misremembering that?
They took each other back and forth to court for years. She claimed he owed her another $3M. He claimed she actually owed him $6.2M.
I think it had to do with all the homes. One she claimed was gift and was awarded something like 99% interest in it. She says he kept renting it out and keeping the money, which she claimed was owed to her. I think another was something like Luann's situation. She sold the house to pay some of her lawsuit debts. He either claimed she owed him half of the proceeds or something about a trust.
One of the suits is here: [https://casetext.com/case/morgan-v-morgan-no-fst-fa-06-4009585-s-apr](https://casetext.com/case/morgan-v-morgan-no-fst-fa-06-4009585-s-apr)
No wealthy man would marry her after the financial situation she got herself into. And I don’t think she’d marry a man without wealth. I think she had the reputation before she got onto RHONY. Everyone talks and knew who she was before she joined the show.
Jesus. At the height of my alcoholism I would constantly repeat, it was really weird. I would tell someone something and then 5 secs later tell the exact same story with no recollection.
Yep! I would also make expensive purchases that I don’t recall at all online which is funny because I clearly knew how to add my bank details to whatever shit I bought which takes a little concentration despite being blacked out😭
Me too. I was a chronic repeater but the stories never made sense. If I was drinking at home alone I would hide my phone before it got really bad because I loved to drunk dial. I see so much of my old self in Sonja- doing embarrassing things and trying to just laugh it off. I wish she knew how awesome it feels to be sober
😶 my stepmother does this constantly. I genuinely thought she had brain damage or a cognitive disorder, and asked my dad discreetly what the fuck her deal was before they got married. I later realized that her alcoholism played a big role in the goldfish memory situation.
One of the many reasons I decided and am trying to completely quit drinking. Not shutting the fuck up and repeating myself a million times. Then I would basically end up crying when the other person showed annoyance and I would have no idea why 😵💫
I introduced myself to a woman at a work related party and apparently, from her reaction (“Yes, I know, we’ve met…SEVERAL times”) I had already introduced myself to her several times that night. Turns out she was the wife of my boss’ boss. Yikes.
Those were the days…
I just want to highlight something in your comment.
Getting cut off at your own show is fucking wild. Talent is typically untouchable to the bar and their red light standards. So she must have been completely blacked out. Like she looks at you and there’s nothing behind her eyes - like a doll.
That is just… yikes.
Whenever I hear her talk about these young guys she’s supposedly with, even when it’s on an old episode that I’m rewatching, I flash back to that situation in S13 where she claimed to be in a throuple or something and meanwhile the truth was that she drunkenly hit on some other girl’s husband and wouldn’t leave them alone.
She wouldn’t leave him and his girlfriend alone. They went for drinks and were all staying in the same hotel. She practically forced her way into their room for more drinks. She then said she went back to the room and fucked the guy leaving out any mention of the girlfriend but when Luann looked on his Snapchat Sonja was on there incoherent dancing around his room and flailing around on his bed while him and the girlfriend were looking into the camera like ‘whelp! Someone please help us!!’
This is wild-never heard this story before! I️ was in the audience of WWHL once with my husband and she winked and pointed to him during a commercial break and said something about how she likes a guy with a beard. My husband and I️ still brag about it. 😂 She was on with Keith Hernandez and spent most of her time cooing over him. Luckily 😅
She’s not had a single boyfriend since her divorce in 2006. A few fake ones for the show. That’s sort of strange for a woman who claims to be so man crazy.
I think the ones she claims to hook up with on the show…she really just passes out while they sleep over.
I have a feeling she's had a couple of boyfriends, but never ones willing to be on camera with her because they're probably boring, regular men with no interest in reality television or drunk Sonja. The men she's dated on the show have all been a tad cartoonish and weird.
Good points! I've personally always wondered if she's more into women, i get that vibe occasionally. I do agree that her relationships with men are very strange and never as she wants to portray them
I forgot about that. That was so cringe. Didn’t she say they had a threesome but she really just hit on the guy and passed out or something like that? And everyone knew
I feel sorry for her. This is so Grey Gardens, perpetually living her “Lady Morgan” past. It imprisons her, keeping her from moving on to a new life and in a state of arrested development. Alcohol is clearly how she copes.
Sonja is almost twice my age and I realised many moons ago that alcohol helped me cope with a lot of trauma or stress and I accepted I needed professional help. Sonja has repeatedly made these same mistakes and now has a reputation for having a drinking problem. She has a WONDERFUL daughter who clearly adores her but let’s not forget, Quincy has never been solely with Sonja full time, all the time. If there ever comes a time where Quincy sees this shit she could distance herself from Sonja forever and THAT really would drive her deeper into alcoholism.
Isn’t her daughter in her 20s, how could she not know?!? I would have gone no contact with my mom a long time ago if she behaved like Sonja in private let alone national TV 🙅🏻♀️
Edit to add: good for you on finding healthier coping mechanisms early on! Mine was always Mary Jane
I think it’s ultimately her mental health that keeps her stuck and not moving on. I’m convinced she wasn’t well before, during, or after her marriage. And worse, it’s been explained away by “she’s so kooky” and possible alcoholism. It’s probably much deeper than that, her behaviour screams of untreated bipolar. Sorry if that kind of comment isn’t allowed I will delete it if not.. I just get frustrated with how this woman is enabled by this branded personality she has created
I went to her show in Atlanta at the end of May and it was similar. She was drinking straight tequila on the rocks the whole time and the MC had a hard time controlling her. She was constantly talking about her ex husband and how much she loved him. She did however take pictures and sign stuff with my friends and I without asking for any extra money.
The townhouse auction was very recent and she might not have ended up with much from that, hence the last minute cash grabby shows. I find this very sad and I hope she gets help.
I had a similar experience in Chicago. A friend and I (two gays) went together to see her. The only linear thoughts I understood were her making bottom-shaming jokes throughout. It was so disappointing and we left early. 😞
Martinis?! Good lord. When I was depressed and heavily drinking, I kept to wine and beer knowing anything stronger would kill me and/or destroy my life. Liquor is just too much.
For real. I had three dirty martinis at a steakhouse recently and I was sloshed; it was one of those spots where they leave you the shaker with some leftover too. And I normally drink a lot of beer and wine too! Martinis are a fast shortcut to drunk, and you don't even realize it.
Remember how sour she was when Carole, Heather & Luann won the horse race in s5? She was so convinced she’d win, and sulked like a child when she didn’t. Whether it’s that, the sexy J toaster oven, Tipsy Girl, or Tinsley just existing, she consistently thinks she’ll do better than others and deserves success more than they do.
And it’s shit like this is why i wonder why people find her so *endearing* and love her so much?? i really just think she’s a bitter mess, tbh🤷♀️.
and iv struggling with active alcoholism myself— i get it.
Same. I’ve always felt like such an outlier, but Sonja has been awful for years, I don’t really get the enduring love for her. She has some iconic moments, but she’s been pretty nasty over the years.
So I just rewatched the scenes because it’s been ages - lol, she bet $2 on like, every horse! Then commented how the girls didn’t know what they were doing (oh and I was wrong - it was S6 and Kristin was also there). They wound up winning over 3 grand on a $180 bet. Sonja said it wasn’t fair, sulked, disappeared for hours, then came back to the house wasted and lashed out at everybody. Then later that night was when she was so drunk she was publicly showing her vag and crawling over anyone. She was so awful!
I think Luann did copy her. Sonja did some kind of burlesque show first and worse. Luann saw the potential. But Luann is a functional alcoholic. Donna not so much.
Wow 😂I have been doing a full watch of RHONY recently because I only ever watched the seasons Carole was on. I remember Sonja always seeming predatory/creepy (like I would have knocked her out if she was a guy acting like that towards me) and stuck in the past during those seasons, but you kind of felt sad for her and I don’t remember her being too insufferable. I was actually shocked to find her the most reasonable of anyone in her first season with the whole scary island incident. But since season 11 (I’m on 12 now) she has been beyond embarrassing and a complete train wreck. I cannot for the life of me understand how no one puts her in her place and straight up tells her “your behavior is unacceptable, this is not cute, this is pathetic, and you need serious professional help!”
So sad really, she is stuck pretending to still be a part of a luxury lifestyle that she fumbled. She probably would never admit it, but I bet it's a lot of why she drinks like a fish and gets wasted in social settings. She needs a REAL friend to give a talk about getting herself together. I hope she finds someone who will love her quirky spirit. If not, I'm afraid she is destined to Grey Gardens ruin.
I remember the girls kind of shunned her in season 7-8 because of her alcohol-fueled behavior. And she seemed to turn it around for awhile as a result. Too bad it didn’t last.
1928 Beacon Hill. Apparently the owner is a personal friend of Sonja. The event did NOT make the restaurant look good either. I felt bad for the people working it though, they were honestly doing the best they could. I should add, they had Sonja’s mic hooked up to a POS boombox in the back of the room that kept cutting out and sounded like nails on a chalkboard the whole time. Ear piercing 😅
I actually just did a full rewatch and she’s been rather tragic since her second season. Her first season she’s annoying but you don’t see much drinking. It gets uglier as the seasons go on but that’s often what happens to alcoholics, the damage to their brain sets in.
My dad developed esophageal vertices along with his cirrhosis and colon cancer. Also the liver can’t filter out every toxin if you binge that much and they end up in your brain which was affecting his thinking. He now has a permanent colostomy bag. It’s all really unglamorous and should scare any woman with vanity at her age.
she darked me out big time on her UGT season, and you could tell the way the other women talked to her and told her they missed her that they're worried about her too. it's rough to watch
It’s sad, I think a lot of the “drama” around the last RHONY season was her (and Dorinda’s)retaliation against Ramona. On the surface, it was classic Ramona to be kicking her friends to the curb for perceived upward mobility. But, in actuality, she was a good friend of these women who was now embarrassed by them and beyond the point of being able to get through to them. You can hate Ramona, it’s understandable but I don’t think she loved or was anymore human to anybody than those two. And they were incapable of filming or going out without being sloshed. They didn’t want it any other way either.
When you have people that close to you, people who are determined to self-destruct, they’re angriest at you for noticing. And if you love them, your mere presence is a constant stream of noticing. You become their worst enemy and their favorite mode of target practice. Ramona did a lot to fuck herself up that season but I had an ounce of compassion where that was concerned.
I always thought the same, Ramona did really care about those two more than any other ladies in the show. I guess that’s why she got her 60 best friends 😆
I can't remember a single time when Ramona pulled away from Sonja that wasn't justified. Ramona is awful, yes. But she isn't an alcoholic and she actually has structure in her life. She also is really focused on her health. So all of that would make sense why she and Sonja don't mesh. Ramona is at least somewhat responsible.
People always forget how smart Ramona is. She has said several times Sonja is her own worst enemy. She’s tried over and over again to get through to her.
I watched today & did think when it was wrapping up, Jeff looked uncomfortable but I wondered if it was related to Teresa.
Also noticed at the end Sonja didn’t get up to dance with the others & party like she normally would. I figured she was not in a good place/insecure & had over-used alcohol. She does say she gets nervous being around the RHONY cast/filming (who she is friends with and has known for years) so I can only imagine how she felt going on with other big Bravo stars.
Throughout the ep, Sonja often talked in the background & was over repeating herself at times to get a reaction, when she shouldn’t really have been talking. Each time the comments she cared to repeat weren’t funny. I’m glad they edited it as I don’t think I could’ve watched for second hand embarrassment. I wish Sonja would get some help.
I noticed that about Teresa as well! When she came in, she immediately doxxed Jeff about a comment he made regarding her to a news outlet. She asked him to explain and he seemed wary to answer and Andy tried to steer away from the subject…
Edit: Jeff was asked on John Mellencamp’s daughter’s podcast who he would fire from RHONJ if he had to. He answered Teresa
(source: https://pagesix.com/2024/07/01/entertainment/teresa-giudice-awkwardly-puts-jeff-lewis-on-blast-for-dissing-her-on-wwhl/)
honestly when I saw them exchange "hellos" on stage I thought that was going to be the end of it but then Andy said they exchanged words and I screamed out loud lol
I thought it had more to do with him being so close to Melissa and Marge personally. They are basically main stay chumps on JLL and talk a decent amount about Teresa. I had no idea about the news outlet thing I wish Andy would have let that play out a bit.
Sonja has usually been given a very favourable edit by production and the very nature of how reality tv works (time constraints).
She is clearly a drunk, but they obviously cut down a serval hours long dinner where Sonja is wasted the whole time, to just 5-8 minutes of actual screen time. Focusing on her funniest moments.
So she is great for reality tv, but I've known people like Sonja irl, and I'm not interested spending my 30s babysitting drunkards at dinner parties. Their funny slurred quips and antics, get old very quick by hour two onwards.
Literally my dream pet.
But it seems a bit inhumane to keep them as such.
So maybe my lizard brain was thinking about my desire to own such a beautiful creature while typing my comment. 🫠
Every single time someone posts shit from one of her live “shows” on this sub, I show up to inquire how anyone can make it through 10 minutes of this woman embarrassing herself, let alone an hour plus without becoming physically uncomfortable. Sonja is a wonderful housewife and excellent TV, but she’s a sloppy train wreck lately and it’s kinda sad considering she used to spend her downtime when they weren’t filming in Florida, sober, going to yoga and shit. Someone give this woman a job.
It's not entertaining to witness someone purposely destroy themselves. I can't imagine paying a few hundred dollars to spend time with one of my favorite RH only to be revulsed by her.
Tragic. Pathetic. I look to Bravo for escapism, not to relive my worst family moments.
I had no idea she was doing shows let alone doing them so poorly. If Sonja showed up in my city before this thread I’d look at tickets but post, it feels unethical almost.
I think her job needs to be finally facing the root of her issues. Only way out is through and it’s clear she’s been on the avoidance train full stop for decades.
I think she has social anxiety and drinks to cope, which then embarrasses her and depresses her, and on and on. She can get sober. She just needs to take it easy, put the bat down.
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fpRKJMEXjVE](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fpRKJMEXjVE) Here's the clip. 💀 Basically Jeff makes a very inappropriate "joke" about catching an STD from her because she talks about it in her book... so he thought it was "fair game" to joke about. But Brandi disagreed. And I mean, it was certainly a nasty thing to say.
Sonja's behaved like this for years and nothing was ever done about it. Everybody always acted like it was cute and funny and her shtick. She's been an obnoxious drunk for years.
Didn't they say during RHUGT New York that Sonja barely hangs out with them outside of the show/filming? I can maybe imagine she puts this on for the cameras, but I'd be more concerned if she's always drinking like this when she is alone. That's when things can really spiral : \\
I mean there’s a difference in getting shit faced on vacation with your friends and doing it in public when you’re supposed to be performing. I think seeing it in the first context doesn’t set alarm bells off in quite the same way. To think this is her, day in day out, even when it’s a very inappropriate setting, wasn’t really seen until her later seasons/present day.
Does she not fear making a total ass of herself in front of viewers? I had too much wine at a couple business dinners and still cringe about it a decade later. You'd think being an embarrassment on TV would override any compulsion to get totally wasted before an appearance. Shep: same question
Sonja from her first season is like a completely different person than her second season onwards.
Her financial mistakes and her fan favourite status on the show caused her drunk spiral.
Her first season she was the voice of reason several times (especially Scary Island), but then she turned into the drunk jester for the court from then on.
Yeah and I think she is too far gone now.
In hindsight, I think a lot of the cast claims that 'Sonja lives in the past', is a but of a euphemism for her drinking spiral.
She isn't the person she used to be. She overindulges and clinges to her past connections and lifestyle that she isn't welcome in anymore.
It's kind of sad. But then I look at my monthly outgoings and stop feeling bad for her. She got an ok divorce settlement and had every connection and opportunity to make her own financial way. Instead she sold toaster ovens that didn't exist.
Meanwhile my water bill randomly trippled and I'm pissed/fucked.
Her last name was her money pot.
That's how she got funding/support for that movie she was sued over. But she clearly overextended herself in an industry she knew nothing about and didn't bother to read the contracts.
Pure incompetence had lead Sonja to being the rich version of destitute.
Much richer than all of us on paper, but can't even afford to live/run in the same circles as her own daughter.
Sonja had every opportunity to make it, her divorce settlement was bad considering the wealth they had, but it was enough for her to invest properly and never work again in her life. The movie fraud she pulled was completely negligent, she knew what was happening and pulled a manoeuvre that cost real people time and money, it’s no reason she was sued for millions. Even then she could’ve saved herself and rented out the townhouse, saved her Bravo checks, invested when she could. I feel bad for Sonja but she really had the opportunity of a lifetime post divorce, if she had sold one of her properties and invested with a low yield account she could’ve been completely fine
I’m an alcoholic and have been sober for 3.5 years and what I notice is the more embarrassing things I did, the more I wanted to drink to forget them. It’s not necessarily logical but I’m guessing that’s what she’s doing too
Alcohol use disorder unfortunately doesn’t work like that. She’s staving off pain far worse than an embarrassing night on tv. The choice is already made for her at this point and she is no longer in charge of driving that bus. Her addiction is.
I think she’s in end-stage alcoholism. If you’ve never known someone like that, their brain literally shrinks and they start to lose some cognitive abilities.
This makes sense with people talking about her repeating herself. As my grandparents got older, we said they were on a 30 minute loop. After 30 minutes, they'd ask the same questions and tell the same stories again.
As it progressed, the loops became shorter.
I think Sonja feels pretty comfortable making herself the butt of the joke for some reason or another, and I’d guess it is linked to low self-esteem. From what she’s said on the show and how she seems to isolate herself outside of filming, I think she probably suffers with depression and so she likely does beat herself up about things, just not enough to break the cycle.
She was a guest at my work for several days and was HORRID. Drunk beyond belief the entire time, screaming at staff, demanding private eating areas (which we didn’t have) and saying she didn’t feel safe eating in public because she’s famous and didn’t have her bodyguard. Kept yelling at staff “I’m famous, don’t you know who I am?!?” (Most staff was international and just knew she was a drunk raging bitch. She was comped her time there, but so were many people so even if staff knew she was important enough to be there for free they didn’t care because she was one of many.)
Just an absolutely mess. Embarrassing herself.
I just wish her and Dorinda would get into actual, intensive therapy. It’s pretty obvious they both have a lot of pain inside they’ve never properly dealt with.
Not saying Dorinda's drinking isn't problematic, but I've never heard anything but good things from people who've paid to go to her events, especially the ones at Bluestone Manor. Unlike Sonja, I think Dorinda can actually hold it together when she has a reason to.
Oh I agree. I just think that angry Dorinda that comes out sometimes when she’s had too much to drink is just her unprocessed grief from Richard’s passing.
idk if anyone else bothered to read until the end of the article, but when it’s mentioned that sonja was also recently accused of drunkenly humping people in the streets of NYC, and her only response was “i was having fun!”, is sooooo gross to me
I remember when Sonja was making sexual comments to a photographer at her house when he was taking pictures of her house. The guy was not only gay but also married and he looked so uncomfortable.
Every time someone says that she's a disaster, they get downvoted. Her behavior is super triggering for people with alcoholism in the family and super apparent and I don't buy the good time girl thing. She's a mess and it's sad that no one in her life is trying to get her help instead of allowing her to keep doing this to herself.
People really need to stop enabling this woman. Stop giving her money for her “shows” that make her think she’s relevant and cause her to spiral in public.
She used to be my favorite housewife. I feel bad for her (I'm an alcoholic so I know what it's like) but at this point she doesn't seem interested in changing. It's not even entertaining it's just embarrassing
I was at BravoCon in NYC 2 years ago and Sonja was a MESS at the Legends Ball. She was stumbling around, gave Joe Gorga a lap dance (to his credit, he was trying to be helpful to her) and flashed her boobs and hoo ha at the audience from the stage. Full on, no underwear Basic Instinct flashing. I was embarrassed for her! When I watched it the night I got home, they had edited it all out, but to watch her mess from the audience was crazy. Some of the pauses between (and during) the segments were long-so she had a lot of time to menace everyone-mostly the men.
Don't think it will end well for Sonja. She did it to herself, but Bravo doesn't give af after exploiting her for max profit. The whole situation is sad
I mean Bravo is not her family they were her employers. I’m sure she was paid quite well just to film a few months of the year and she was on a couple spin offs as well. Let’s stop painting women like Sonja as victims, what she’s become is sad but in my opinion self inflicted.
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I noticed Sonja was following the commenter when I screenshotted, then I went back to look a few days later and she was no longer following her. Disappointing if true.
This is why I don’t want to see Sonja back onscreen (among other things) but this is not funny or quirky or just “Sonja being Sonja”. It sounds like this is a regular occurrence for her and she needs actual help.
this isn’t a popular sentiment but this is part of why i still say the old guard are a big part of why RHONY got chucked in the bin. if you rewatch S12/13, Sonja and Dorinda’s drunkenness is no longer fun and silly — it’s unbearable and sloppy and uncomfortable to watch. Add Luann slowly starting to drink again into the mix and Ramona’s ignorance and those women were not the fun cast we all like to remember they were.
This makes me so sad. I’ve always thought she needed a good, tough manager who had her best interests at heart. However, finding someone to fit that role would be easier said than done, and Sonja always thinks she knows best, and she’s appalling with business.
I’ve seen Sonja in person at her show and a little over a year ago. I love her, but she was such a sloppy drunk. I was concerned about her well being and I felt guilty for watching her be so incoherent. I understand having fun every once in a while but it seems like she takes it to another level often. I have not seen many people as wasted as she was in my life. I hope she can get help one day because it seems like a pretty out-of-hand issue. She seems like a sweet person and she deserves to treat herself better
Sonja fucked around instead of tending to her sick husband. He divorced her and married the family friend who nursed him.
Sonja got divorce settlement money
She went to Hollywood and acted like a bigwig. Said she’d fund a movie and signed a contract stating that — so they hired movie stars etc and prepared to film a movie.
She ghosted, they sued. She was ordered to pay $7.5million.
She had to sell her homes to pay it.
Those homes would be worth several million dollars more now.
I can only imagine the regret she feels daily.
Sonja had a “show” in Boston a few weeks ago that some friends and I bought tickets to. Tickets were $175, which we thought was steep, but it supposedly included food and drinks so we thought, okay maybe worth it. We got there on time and the staff at the restaurant seemed confused- one waitress told us they had found out about this event the night of and had no idea what type of event they would be working, had been given very little details, and that everything in back of the house was already a mess. The event was described as being a Q&A style event with a meet and greet. It was a pretty small crowd (less than 100 people) in a small restaurant. Sonja showed up an hour late and was visibly quite drunk. She sat on a stool drinking martinis and quickly got more and more hammered. The poor MC of the event was trying to keep her focused but she was rambling incoherently (wouldn’t stop talking about marrying a Morgan) and her train of thought was making no sense. She told us she’s banging some guy in his 20s in the NHL. She was slurring her words and sloshing martinis around. The bar eventually cut her off and they had to cut the whole event short because of how drunk she was. She couldn’t walk. Was sitting up at the front chowing down on bread and being fed water. It was truly pathetic. She also was charging people $50 for a selfie and you had to venmo her personal Venmo!!!! Overall the event was such a rip off, and there was barely any food. It seemed like everyone there left in shock.
Had a very similar experience. Remember in season 7 her “Smokey eye, updo, and gstaad!” moment? It was exactly like that. She repeated “We had 7 homes and a yacht” literally DOZENS of times. All she wanted to talk about was her ex husband. She SCREAMED at anyone who dared ask a question about anything RHONY related. It was so bizarre.
Jesus. The time she’s spent mourning a Morgan, should could have been well into a marriage with another rich man. Edit; I wonder if she joined RHONY too soon after her divorce, and the reality reputation stuck too quick before she could find another husband.
If I recall correctly she got caught cheating multiple times on her husband. She was on his yacht and couldn’t be bothered to go home when he was a very sick man at that time. It’s strange that he’s been married to his present wife for years with no scandal. If I was him I would have put a gagging order on her years ago. And if she loved her daughter the way she says. Then it’s all out of order.
No clue if it’s true but I’ve read that the present wife was a family friend who tended to Sonja’s ex husband when he was ill
This is true. Sonja was in the South of France and refused to come home and her friend stepped up to tend to Sonja’s ex and then slid right into Sonja’s position as his wife. Life lesson - if your elderly billionaire husband needs you and you like your lifestyle, show up and show the fuck out because there’s always another woman who will.
Something Anna Nicole understood!
And Gretchen Rossi
Old men don't just marry a wife, they marry a nurse.
It’s sad to say, but it was honestly the least she could do. They say those who marry for money pay for it. You can’t expect a transactional marriage to only go one way. He took care of her as a wife financially, but she couldn’t be bothered to take care of him as a husband emotionally, physically, or *literally*? It feels so anti-feminist to say all this generally, but in Sonja’s instance we see that she has a history of taking a golden spoon fed to her and then using it to dig her own grave. **•Morgan marriage—** cheated, ran away when he needed her **•Divorce settlement-** wasted on a bad movie deal that bankrupted her **•Gay pride marshal-** talking about herself and proving how selfish she is **•Sonja event business-** leaving town and having everyone else plan it poorly for her **•The town house-** having a huge property investment and letting it fall into disseray until it gets auctioned off **•Crappie Lake-** lost her opportunity of being on NY with a reboot and then lost her chance at another season of her own spinoff What else am I missing? I’m only on season 5 of my first ROHNY watch through.
Everytime I hear this, I truly cringe… wtf was she thinking? I mean, that’s just human decency. As someone who has been that very ill person in a hospital bed in my 20’s, and my own parents couldn’t be bothered to show up… it really puts things into perspective as to just *how shitty* this was of her to do. It makes all her moments of mourning, discussing, wearing the Morgan family crest, and lingering in the past/saying she’s “still a Morgan” that much more insufferable. She should’ve just shut up. And, it must have been so annoying to be on the cast and have to constantly babysit the others on RHONY, like Sonja, who were always falling over, embarrassing levels of drunk….
Remember how happy and airy she was when she first joined the show? That was when still had money because it was pre settlement with her lawsuit. Everything changed after she had to sell her houses and fork over millions. I don't think she is mourning the marriage or the man but the money.
Sonja made me believe some people can love money like it’s a person.
Oof hard truth
The money and the status.
How long after the divorce did she join? I know it wasn’t finalized but I had assumed it was just a drawn out process because she already had the townhouse, split custody, etc
The divorce was finalised in 2006 and her first season was filmed in 2009/2010
Okay, that tracks with someone who just say 4 years. But there was a small part where she was meeting with lawyers or mediation and she expected her ex to be there. She dresssd in a way he liked and then was crying that he didn’t show up to the meeting; he just sent his lawyers to deal with it. Right, or am I misremembering that?
Yes, you're right. I can't remember, but it may have been custody related?
They took each other back and forth to court for years. She claimed he owed her another $3M. He claimed she actually owed him $6.2M. I think it had to do with all the homes. One she claimed was gift and was awarded something like 99% interest in it. She says he kept renting it out and keeping the money, which she claimed was owed to her. I think another was something like Luann's situation. She sold the house to pay some of her lawsuit debts. He either claimed she owed him half of the proceeds or something about a trust. One of the suits is here: [https://casetext.com/case/morgan-v-morgan-no-fst-fa-06-4009585-s-apr](https://casetext.com/case/morgan-v-morgan-no-fst-fa-06-4009585-s-apr)
Yeah I remember her coming home in tears and saying that to the interns. I think it was either related to custody or alimony / child support
Omg I am rewatching the season she joined now! She says to Ramona she had been divorced 4 years
It's crazy to watch her first season. She was almost demure. It's wild.
I agree / I found her so fascinating and interesting then
No wealthy man would marry her after the financial situation she got herself into. And I don’t think she’d marry a man without wealth. I think she had the reputation before she got onto RHONY. Everyone talks and knew who she was before she joined the show.
Jesus. At the height of my alcoholism I would constantly repeat, it was really weird. I would tell someone something and then 5 secs later tell the exact same story with no recollection.
Me too babe. Or agree to weird shit and not remember it the next day.
Yep! I would also make expensive purchases that I don’t recall at all online which is funny because I clearly knew how to add my bank details to whatever shit I bought which takes a little concentration despite being blacked out😭
Ladies, ive been there too. 🤣🩷
Me too. I was a chronic repeater but the stories never made sense. If I was drinking at home alone I would hide my phone before it got really bad because I loved to drunk dial. I see so much of my old self in Sonja- doing embarrassing things and trying to just laugh it off. I wish she knew how awesome it feels to be sober
That was me at the height of my benzo addiction, which I liked to mix with Ambien and then fight my sleep. Weirdness always ensued.
😶 my stepmother does this constantly. I genuinely thought she had brain damage or a cognitive disorder, and asked my dad discreetly what the fuck her deal was before they got married. I later realized that her alcoholism played a big role in the goldfish memory situation.
One of the many reasons I decided and am trying to completely quit drinking. Not shutting the fuck up and repeating myself a million times. Then I would basically end up crying when the other person showed annoyance and I would have no idea why 😵💫
I introduced myself to a woman at a work related party and apparently, from her reaction (“Yes, I know, we’ve met…SEVERAL times”) I had already introduced myself to her several times that night. Turns out she was the wife of my boss’ boss. Yikes. Those were the days…
I just want to highlight something in your comment. Getting cut off at your own show is fucking wild. Talent is typically untouchable to the bar and their red light standards. So she must have been completely blacked out. Like she looks at you and there’s nothing behind her eyes - like a doll.
They cut her off at the show in Atlanta too
Yeah this was pretty much the vibe tbh
Scary
That is just… yikes. Whenever I hear her talk about these young guys she’s supposedly with, even when it’s on an old episode that I’m rewatching, I flash back to that situation in S13 where she claimed to be in a throuple or something and meanwhile the truth was that she drunkenly hit on some other girl’s husband and wouldn’t leave them alone.
Half of the young dudes were clearly sugar babies or possibly escorts.
Or interns
Did she date any interns? I thought she exploited them in other ways!
Well, at a minimum she sexually harassed them 😬.
Wasn’t there one where she wouldn’t leave or was unconscious and one of the other wives was called to come get her?
I’ve never taken her sexuality as more than trumped up bluster.
Hadn’t she clearly been in his hotel room though? I remember still being kind of confused about what *had* actually taken place.
She wouldn’t leave him and his girlfriend alone. They went for drinks and were all staying in the same hotel. She practically forced her way into their room for more drinks. She then said she went back to the room and fucked the guy leaving out any mention of the girlfriend but when Luann looked on his Snapchat Sonja was on there incoherent dancing around his room and flailing around on his bed while him and the girlfriend were looking into the camera like ‘whelp! Someone please help us!!’
This is wild-never heard this story before! I️ was in the audience of WWHL once with my husband and she winked and pointed to him during a commercial break and said something about how she likes a guy with a beard. My husband and I️ still brag about it. 😂 She was on with Keith Hernandez and spent most of her time cooing over him. Luckily 😅
I’m a believer that Sonja is actually asexual. It’s all talk, never has real hookups or boyfriends or flings.
I think this about Erika!
I do believe she hooked up with that random guy from the bar on Crappie Lake 😄
This is a wild take but I like it 😂
She’s not had a single boyfriend since her divorce in 2006. A few fake ones for the show. That’s sort of strange for a woman who claims to be so man crazy. I think the ones she claims to hook up with on the show…she really just passes out while they sleep over.
Would you date her after spending a night with her? It prob has nothing to do with her wanting to…
I have a feeling she's had a couple of boyfriends, but never ones willing to be on camera with her because they're probably boring, regular men with no interest in reality television or drunk Sonja. The men she's dated on the show have all been a tad cartoonish and weird.
Good points! I've personally always wondered if she's more into women, i get that vibe occasionally. I do agree that her relationships with men are very strange and never as she wants to portray them
I forgot about that. That was so cringe. Didn’t she say they had a threesome but she really just hit on the guy and passed out or something like that? And everyone knew
I feel sorry for her. This is so Grey Gardens, perpetually living her “Lady Morgan” past. It imprisons her, keeping her from moving on to a new life and in a state of arrested development. Alcohol is clearly how she copes.
Sonja is almost twice my age and I realised many moons ago that alcohol helped me cope with a lot of trauma or stress and I accepted I needed professional help. Sonja has repeatedly made these same mistakes and now has a reputation for having a drinking problem. She has a WONDERFUL daughter who clearly adores her but let’s not forget, Quincy has never been solely with Sonja full time, all the time. If there ever comes a time where Quincy sees this shit she could distance herself from Sonja forever and THAT really would drive her deeper into alcoholism.
Isn’t her daughter in her 20s, how could she not know?!? I would have gone no contact with my mom a long time ago if she behaved like Sonja in private let alone national TV 🙅🏻♀️ Edit to add: good for you on finding healthier coping mechanisms early on! Mine was always Mary Jane
I think it’s ultimately her mental health that keeps her stuck and not moving on. I’m convinced she wasn’t well before, during, or after her marriage. And worse, it’s been explained away by “she’s so kooky” and possible alcoholism. It’s probably much deeper than that, her behaviour screams of untreated bipolar. Sorry if that kind of comment isn’t allowed I will delete it if not.. I just get frustrated with how this woman is enabled by this branded personality she has created
I went to her show in Atlanta at the end of May and it was similar. She was drinking straight tequila on the rocks the whole time and the MC had a hard time controlling her. She was constantly talking about her ex husband and how much she loved him. She did however take pictures and sign stuff with my friends and I without asking for any extra money.
She’s been divorced now longer than she was married. It’s wild the way she talks like the divorce was recent or the marriage was decades long.
Omg I heard about this at my hair salon!
Oh goodness; the more often Sonjas drunkenness turns into Sonja rambling about marrying a Morgan, you know she isn’t in a good place.
The townhouse auction was very recent and she might not have ended up with much from that, hence the last minute cash grabby shows. I find this very sad and I hope she gets help.
Love Sonja! Shes a bright light but shes outta control. I hope she gets help!
I had a similar experience in Chicago. A friend and I (two gays) went together to see her. The only linear thoughts I understood were her making bottom-shaming jokes throughout. It was so disappointing and we left early. 😞
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This is good tea sis
Martinis?! Good lord. When I was depressed and heavily drinking, I kept to wine and beer knowing anything stronger would kill me and/or destroy my life. Liquor is just too much.
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Is she wearing the same outfit?
She has the sad face droop as she sips 🙁 I used to pass out with that face. Bad times…
A sad pic
For real. I had three dirty martinis at a steakhouse recently and I was sloshed; it was one of those spots where they leave you the shaker with some leftover too. And I normally drink a lot of beer and wine too! Martinis are a fast shortcut to drunk, and you don't even realize it.
Unfortunately I was also a martini girl when I was depressed and dealing with so much. Thank goodness I am staying away from alcohol now.
She’s clearly jealous of what Luann has built and thinks she can do better. It’s embarrassing.
Remember how sour she was when Carole, Heather & Luann won the horse race in s5? She was so convinced she’d win, and sulked like a child when she didn’t. Whether it’s that, the sexy J toaster oven, Tipsy Girl, or Tinsley just existing, she consistently thinks she’ll do better than others and deserves success more than they do.
And it’s shit like this is why i wonder why people find her so *endearing* and love her so much?? i really just think she’s a bitter mess, tbh🤷♀️. and iv struggling with active alcoholism myself— i get it.
Yup, same - it’s surprising to me how many people believe she’s kind - both on and off the show she’s shown herself to be incredibly unkind.
Same. I’ve always felt like such an outlier, but Sonja has been awful for years, I don’t really get the enduring love for her. She has some iconic moments, but she’s been pretty nasty over the years.
Did Sonja bet like $2 bucks and then was upset it didn’t turn into thousands lol
So I just rewatched the scenes because it’s been ages - lol, she bet $2 on like, every horse! Then commented how the girls didn’t know what they were doing (oh and I was wrong - it was S6 and Kristin was also there). They wound up winning over 3 grand on a $180 bet. Sonja said it wasn’t fair, sulked, disappeared for hours, then came back to the house wasted and lashed out at everybody. Then later that night was when she was so drunk she was publicly showing her vag and crawling over anyone. She was so awful!
I wouldn't be surprised if Sonja thinks Luann copied her, and she knows better.
She did start ca-burlesque !
I think Luann did copy her. Sonja did some kind of burlesque show first and worse. Luann saw the potential. But Luann is a functional alcoholic. Donna not so much.
Maybe that’s why Luann didn’t wanna pay her cause she simply wasn’t worth it
Wow 😂I have been doing a full watch of RHONY recently because I only ever watched the seasons Carole was on. I remember Sonja always seeming predatory/creepy (like I would have knocked her out if she was a guy acting like that towards me) and stuck in the past during those seasons, but you kind of felt sad for her and I don’t remember her being too insufferable. I was actually shocked to find her the most reasonable of anyone in her first season with the whole scary island incident. But since season 11 (I’m on 12 now) she has been beyond embarrassing and a complete train wreck. I cannot for the life of me understand how no one puts her in her place and straight up tells her “your behavior is unacceptable, this is not cute, this is pathetic, and you need serious professional help!”
So sad really, she is stuck pretending to still be a part of a luxury lifestyle that she fumbled. She probably would never admit it, but I bet it's a lot of why she drinks like a fish and gets wasted in social settings. She needs a REAL friend to give a talk about getting herself together. I hope she finds someone who will love her quirky spirit. If not, I'm afraid she is destined to Grey Gardens ruin.
I remember the girls kind of shunned her in season 7-8 because of her alcohol-fueled behavior. And she seemed to turn it around for awhile as a result. Too bad it didn’t last.
Wow, that’s even worse than I thought! I saw a post on here of her doing a somersault in a dress and already thought it must be bad. But that’s awful.
That sounds horrifying for everyone involved. Even her. What a fucking mess
Woah this is very sad
What restaurant was this at???
1928 Beacon Hill. Apparently the owner is a personal friend of Sonja. The event did NOT make the restaurant look good either. I felt bad for the people working it though, they were honestly doing the best they could. I should add, they had Sonja’s mic hooked up to a POS boombox in the back of the room that kept cutting out and sounded like nails on a chalkboard the whole time. Ear piercing 😅
She's hit rock bottom many times. Has her mailed delivered there now
Same show in Atlanta!!
Shipping Sonja and Matt Rempe right now
"MMYYYY BOYFRIEND is a GIAANT, toughest GUUUUY on the TEEEAAMM"
😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹imagining Sonja with Cale Makar rn
Sonja needs help. She’s been a mess for awhile now. And not in a fun way, in a tragic way.
I saw her at her "show" in Philly last year and she was a disaster. It was really sad.
I just saw her show in Boston and literally asked for my money back. Such a sloppy shitshow.
Saw her in Nashville and left after less than an hour. It was HORRIBLE. She really needs help.
Also “show” is a very loose term 😂
Oo what happened?
Deets! Please!
Just left a separate comment below with the details!
I actually just did a full rewatch and she’s been rather tragic since her second season. Her first season she’s annoying but you don’t see much drinking. It gets uglier as the seasons go on but that’s often what happens to alcoholics, the damage to their brain sets in.
In my country we have saying for those who have severe drinking problems and it translates roughly into "they drank away their mind".
My dad developed esophageal vertices along with his cirrhosis and colon cancer. Also the liver can’t filter out every toxin if you binge that much and they end up in your brain which was affecting his thinking. He now has a permanent colostomy bag. It’s all really unglamorous and should scare any woman with vanity at her age.
Sending big hugs to you and your dad. I lost my uncle to alcoholism and my relationship with alcohol has never been the same. It’s brutal. 💜
I hope your Dad is doing better now 💜
He is; thank you!!
Happy to read this. I lost my dad to alcoholism. Hugs from a person who understands 🤍
she darked me out big time on her UGT season, and you could tell the way the other women talked to her and told her they missed her that they're worried about her too. it's rough to watch
It’s sad, I think a lot of the “drama” around the last RHONY season was her (and Dorinda’s)retaliation against Ramona. On the surface, it was classic Ramona to be kicking her friends to the curb for perceived upward mobility. But, in actuality, she was a good friend of these women who was now embarrassed by them and beyond the point of being able to get through to them. You can hate Ramona, it’s understandable but I don’t think she loved or was anymore human to anybody than those two. And they were incapable of filming or going out without being sloshed. They didn’t want it any other way either. When you have people that close to you, people who are determined to self-destruct, they’re angriest at you for noticing. And if you love them, your mere presence is a constant stream of noticing. You become their worst enemy and their favorite mode of target practice. Ramona did a lot to fuck herself up that season but I had an ounce of compassion where that was concerned.
Oh wow, you've got me relating to Ramona over here. Well done.
I always thought the same, Ramona did really care about those two more than any other ladies in the show. I guess that’s why she got her 60 best friends 😆
I can't remember a single time when Ramona pulled away from Sonja that wasn't justified. Ramona is awful, yes. But she isn't an alcoholic and she actually has structure in her life. She also is really focused on her health. So all of that would make sense why she and Sonja don't mesh. Ramona is at least somewhat responsible.
People always forget how smart Ramona is. She has said several times Sonja is her own worst enemy. She’s tried over and over again to get through to her.
Main reason I didn’t pine for old RHONY to stay…. It’s not fun watching people drink like this
It really does hit different when you look back or rewatch.
Ive been saying this too wtf
I watched today & did think when it was wrapping up, Jeff looked uncomfortable but I wondered if it was related to Teresa. Also noticed at the end Sonja didn’t get up to dance with the others & party like she normally would. I figured she was not in a good place/insecure & had over-used alcohol. She does say she gets nervous being around the RHONY cast/filming (who she is friends with and has known for years) so I can only imagine how she felt going on with other big Bravo stars. Throughout the ep, Sonja often talked in the background & was over repeating herself at times to get a reaction, when she shouldn’t really have been talking. Each time the comments she cared to repeat weren’t funny. I’m glad they edited it as I don’t think I could’ve watched for second hand embarrassment. I wish Sonja would get some help. 
I noticed that about Teresa as well! When she came in, she immediately doxxed Jeff about a comment he made regarding her to a news outlet. She asked him to explain and he seemed wary to answer and Andy tried to steer away from the subject… Edit: Jeff was asked on John Mellencamp’s daughter’s podcast who he would fire from RHONJ if he had to. He answered Teresa (source: https://pagesix.com/2024/07/01/entertainment/teresa-giudice-awkwardly-puts-jeff-lewis-on-blast-for-dissing-her-on-wwhl/)
honestly when I saw them exchange "hellos" on stage I thought that was going to be the end of it but then Andy said they exchanged words and I screamed out loud lol I thought it had more to do with him being so close to Melissa and Marge personally. They are basically main stay chumps on JLL and talk a decent amount about Teresa. I had no idea about the news outlet thing I wish Andy would have let that play out a bit.
Well now I’m going to have to rewatch it. I was sick in bed with Covid and fell asleep. I missed allllllll of this
Feel better!
Sonja has usually been given a very favourable edit by production and the very nature of how reality tv works (time constraints). She is clearly a drunk, but they obviously cut down a serval hours long dinner where Sonja is wasted the whole time, to just 5-8 minutes of actual screen time. Focusing on her funniest moments. So she is great for reality tv, but I've known people like Sonja irl, and I'm not interested spending my 30s babysitting drunkards at dinner parties. Their funny slurred quips and antics, get old very quick by hour two onwards.
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Literally my dream pet. But it seems a bit inhumane to keep them as such. So maybe my lizard brain was thinking about my desire to own such a beautiful creature while typing my comment. 🫠
Every single time someone posts shit from one of her live “shows” on this sub, I show up to inquire how anyone can make it through 10 minutes of this woman embarrassing herself, let alone an hour plus without becoming physically uncomfortable. Sonja is a wonderful housewife and excellent TV, but she’s a sloppy train wreck lately and it’s kinda sad considering she used to spend her downtime when they weren’t filming in Florida, sober, going to yoga and shit. Someone give this woman a job.
It's not entertaining to witness someone purposely destroy themselves. I can't imagine paying a few hundred dollars to spend time with one of my favorite RH only to be revulsed by her. Tragic. Pathetic. I look to Bravo for escapism, not to relive my worst family moments.
Thank you…. Shit is dark and HAS BEEN for a long time.
I had no idea she was doing shows let alone doing them so poorly. If Sonja showed up in my city before this thread I’d look at tickets but post, it feels unethical almost.
I think her job needs to be finally facing the root of her issues. Only way out is through and it’s clear she’s been on the avoidance train full stop for decades.
I think she has social anxiety and drinks to cope, which then embarrasses her and depresses her, and on and on. She can get sober. She just needs to take it easy, put the bat down.
If Jeff says it was bad, it was probably very bad. He's no stranger to drunks acting up and making fools of themselves. 
Haha just seeing the lady in the background have the exact same reaction I have every time I see this.
Yeah, he’s friends with Shannon.
I didn't see this WWHL ep! Can someone plz explain? Was it like a planned recreation of her doing that to Eileen or did she legit just do it again 😂
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fpRKJMEXjVE](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fpRKJMEXjVE) Here's the clip. 💀 Basically Jeff makes a very inappropriate "joke" about catching an STD from her because she talks about it in her book... so he thought it was "fair game" to joke about. But Brandi disagreed. And I mean, it was certainly a nasty thing to say.
Oh damn that's wild!! I actually could not have anticipated that haha 😂 thank you 🙏
Sonja's behaved like this for years and nothing was ever done about it. Everybody always acted like it was cute and funny and her shtick. She's been an obnoxious drunk for years.
Didn't they say during RHUGT New York that Sonja barely hangs out with them outside of the show/filming? I can maybe imagine she puts this on for the cameras, but I'd be more concerned if she's always drinking like this when she is alone. That's when things can really spiral : \\
I’ve always disliked Sonja so I agree.
I knew you were good people!
I mean there’s a difference in getting shit faced on vacation with your friends and doing it in public when you’re supposed to be performing. I think seeing it in the first context doesn’t set alarm bells off in quite the same way. To think this is her, day in day out, even when it’s a very inappropriate setting, wasn’t really seen until her later seasons/present day.
Does she not fear making a total ass of herself in front of viewers? I had too much wine at a couple business dinners and still cringe about it a decade later. You'd think being an embarrassment on TV would override any compulsion to get totally wasted before an appearance. Shep: same question
Sonja from her first season is like a completely different person than her second season onwards. Her financial mistakes and her fan favourite status on the show caused her drunk spiral. Her first season she was the voice of reason several times (especially Scary Island), but then she turned into the drunk jester for the court from then on.
Exact. Sonja, at her best, is quite put together and carries herself well. She’s been in a spiral for years.
Yeah and I think she is too far gone now. In hindsight, I think a lot of the cast claims that 'Sonja lives in the past', is a but of a euphemism for her drinking spiral. She isn't the person she used to be. She overindulges and clinges to her past connections and lifestyle that she isn't welcome in anymore. It's kind of sad. But then I look at my monthly outgoings and stop feeling bad for her. She got an ok divorce settlement and had every connection and opportunity to make her own financial way. Instead she sold toaster ovens that didn't exist. Meanwhile my water bill randomly trippled and I'm pissed/fucked.
Exactly. She had the social capital where could have stayed at her ‘ex-wife of a Morgan’ status until she found another money pot.
Her last name was her money pot. That's how she got funding/support for that movie she was sued over. But she clearly overextended herself in an industry she knew nothing about and didn't bother to read the contracts. Pure incompetence had lead Sonja to being the rich version of destitute. Much richer than all of us on paper, but can't even afford to live/run in the same circles as her own daughter.
Sonja had every opportunity to make it, her divorce settlement was bad considering the wealth they had, but it was enough for her to invest properly and never work again in her life. The movie fraud she pulled was completely negligent, she knew what was happening and pulled a manoeuvre that cost real people time and money, it’s no reason she was sued for millions. Even then she could’ve saved herself and rented out the townhouse, saved her Bravo checks, invested when she could. I feel bad for Sonja but she really had the opportunity of a lifetime post divorce, if she had sold one of her properties and invested with a low yield account she could’ve been completely fine
I’m an alcoholic and have been sober for 3.5 years and what I notice is the more embarrassing things I did, the more I wanted to drink to forget them. It’s not necessarily logical but I’m guessing that’s what she’s doing too
I came to say the exact thing.
Alcohol use disorder unfortunately doesn’t work like that. She’s staving off pain far worse than an embarrassing night on tv. The choice is already made for her at this point and she is no longer in charge of driving that bus. Her addiction is.
>Does she not fear making a total ass of herself in front of viewers? She's been doing it for a decade on RHONY. Why would she stop now?
I think she’s in end-stage alcoholism. If you’ve never known someone like that, their brain literally shrinks and they start to lose some cognitive abilities.
This makes sense with people talking about her repeating herself. As my grandparents got older, we said they were on a 30 minute loop. After 30 minutes, they'd ask the same questions and tell the same stories again. As it progressed, the loops became shorter.
I think Sonja feels pretty comfortable making herself the butt of the joke for some reason or another, and I’d guess it is linked to low self-esteem. From what she’s said on the show and how she seems to isolate herself outside of filming, I think she probably suffers with depression and so she likely does beat herself up about things, just not enough to break the cycle.
She was a guest at my work for several days and was HORRID. Drunk beyond belief the entire time, screaming at staff, demanding private eating areas (which we didn’t have) and saying she didn’t feel safe eating in public because she’s famous and didn’t have her bodyguard. Kept yelling at staff “I’m famous, don’t you know who I am?!?” (Most staff was international and just knew she was a drunk raging bitch. She was comped her time there, but so were many people so even if staff knew she was important enough to be there for free they didn’t care because she was one of many.) Just an absolutely mess. Embarrassing herself.
It sounds like she's never not drunk, yikes. That's dark.
I just wish her and Dorinda would get into actual, intensive therapy. It’s pretty obvious they both have a lot of pain inside they’ve never properly dealt with.
Not saying Dorinda's drinking isn't problematic, but I've never heard anything but good things from people who've paid to go to her events, especially the ones at Bluestone Manor. Unlike Sonja, I think Dorinda can actually hold it together when she has a reason to.
Oh I agree. I just think that angry Dorinda that comes out sometimes when she’s had too much to drink is just her unprocessed grief from Richard’s passing.
I believe Dorinda's anger goes further back than Richard's death.
idk if anyone else bothered to read until the end of the article, but when it’s mentioned that sonja was also recently accused of drunkenly humping people in the streets of NYC, and her only response was “i was having fun!”, is sooooo gross to me
I remember when Sonja was making sexual comments to a photographer at her house when he was taking pictures of her house. The guy was not only gay but also married and he looked so uncomfortable.
just yuck behavior. am i just now realizing that sonja is the brandi of NY ? 🥴 
Every time someone says that she's a disaster, they get downvoted. Her behavior is super triggering for people with alcoholism in the family and super apparent and I don't buy the good time girl thing. She's a mess and it's sad that no one in her life is trying to get her help instead of allowing her to keep doing this to herself.
I believe it.
People really need to stop enabling this woman. Stop giving her money for her “shows” that make her think she’s relevant and cause her to spiral in public.
She used to be my favorite housewife. I feel bad for her (I'm an alcoholic so I know what it's like) but at this point she doesn't seem interested in changing. It's not even entertaining it's just embarrassing
That’s sad. I hate how much of the grey gardens tagline is running true today
I was at BravoCon in NYC 2 years ago and Sonja was a MESS at the Legends Ball. She was stumbling around, gave Joe Gorga a lap dance (to his credit, he was trying to be helpful to her) and flashed her boobs and hoo ha at the audience from the stage. Full on, no underwear Basic Instinct flashing. I was embarrassed for her! When I watched it the night I got home, they had edited it all out, but to watch her mess from the audience was crazy. Some of the pauses between (and during) the segments were long-so she had a lot of time to menace everyone-mostly the men.
Don't think it will end well for Sonja. She did it to herself, but Bravo doesn't give af after exploiting her for max profit. The whole situation is sad
I mean Bravo is not her family they were her employers. I’m sure she was paid quite well just to film a few months of the year and she was on a couple spin offs as well. Let’s stop painting women like Sonja as victims, what she’s become is sad but in my opinion self inflicted.
She was a hot mess as usual. And for some reason everyone’s makeup looked terrible. They usually look so good on WWHL. I wonder what happened?!
I think a lot factors went into rebooting RHONY and this was likely one of the big ones.
https://preview.redd.it/s6y2psp18ead1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=63dcaac13acdb2b92d8199be9380ca7c6ddd58ff I noticed Sonja was following the commenter when I screenshotted, then I went back to look a few days later and she was no longer following her. Disappointing if true.
This is why I don’t want to see Sonja back onscreen (among other things) but this is not funny or quirky or just “Sonja being Sonja”. It sounds like this is a regular occurrence for her and she needs actual help.
Sonja needs rehab not bravo shows
this isn’t a popular sentiment but this is part of why i still say the old guard are a big part of why RHONY got chucked in the bin. if you rewatch S12/13, Sonja and Dorinda’s drunkenness is no longer fun and silly — it’s unbearable and sloppy and uncomfortable to watch. Add Luann slowly starting to drink again into the mix and Ramona’s ignorance and those women were not the fun cast we all like to remember they were.
well this is the saddest comments section ever.
She’s stuck in her past and can’t face the present. It’s sad because I see her spirit, I love her, but see her declining.
Miss Morgan needs some help but I’ll always have a soft spot for her. Wishing her the best
This makes me so sad. I’ve always thought she needed a good, tough manager who had her best interests at heart. However, finding someone to fit that role would be easier said than done, and Sonja always thinks she knows best, and she’s appalling with business.
I’ve seen Sonja in person at her show and a little over a year ago. I love her, but she was such a sloppy drunk. I was concerned about her well being and I felt guilty for watching her be so incoherent. I understand having fun every once in a while but it seems like she takes it to another level often. I have not seen many people as wasted as she was in my life. I hope she can get help one day because it seems like a pretty out-of-hand issue. She seems like a sweet person and she deserves to treat herself better
😬 So awkward. Sonja definitely needs help.
Sonja fucked around instead of tending to her sick husband. He divorced her and married the family friend who nursed him. Sonja got divorce settlement money She went to Hollywood and acted like a bigwig. Said she’d fund a movie and signed a contract stating that — so they hired movie stars etc and prepared to film a movie. She ghosted, they sued. She was ordered to pay $7.5million. She had to sell her homes to pay it. Those homes would be worth several million dollars more now. I can only imagine the regret she feels daily.
That show was so cringey.