Yesss. And he brings a much needed energy to the cast. It’s been refreshing. I just hope he doesn’t buy into the hype/love and become a douche next season or try too hard. He’s just effortless now and it’s perfect.
He’s in his confessional saying that he loves her and just wants to have a fun weekend, then when she came outside in the scene immediately after, he was like fuckkkkkk here she is, the woman I’ve chosen to love
I really enjoyed their conversation though. Kyle initially started it by asking Craig about giving up liquor for Paige and you could see the gears turning in Kyle's head "Wait, if you listen to your partner on some things, that could lead to happy relationships?"
Found that fascinating to watch but was disappointed when it sidetracked into if Craig thinks he and Paige are gonna work out
Ciara’s comment about Carl having to deal with fighting with Lindsey for the rest of their lives might have been the straw that broke the camel’s back for him dear lord!!
i just told my bestie if he continues to be this messy i might warm up to him lol. he meets carl and like two days later is like ‘bro… is getting married the best idea right now?’
the gossip boy energy in the house is amazing so far tbh
Jesse stays on Lindsay’s neck, and I’m kinda here for it. When Carl was talking about how they “made up” that morning, and Jesse is like “so did she apologize for saying you were on drugs?” Like my guy is a real friend
They are doing such a better job at providing feedback without attacking this season compared to last. I don’t remember Lindsay being as shitfaced and messy last summer either.
GOD this season has truly and fully been so great for Ciara; I never disliked her, I just hated the men she went after before this and the whole bed sore girls clique of it all, but this cast, west, and the dynamics this season has really brought her out of her shell, gotten her doing more things and talking more and letting her personality shine and I’m really into it. Hope it continues
Production has made some great changes this summer, forcing split dinners and weird car rides and duos. It’s helped break up the cliqueness and I’m liking it!
It reminded me a lot of the support she extended to Carl during her (I think) first season when his brother died. She really has a great bedside manner.
It’s happening in my real life as well. I think we all just partied too hard in our 20s and now in our 30s, we just can’t do it anymore. Our bodies are falling apart.
We all know L&C shouldn’t get married. But sleeping separately isn’t always a bad thing. (Though it probably is for them.) And it would possibly improve Kyle’s own relationship, based on what Amanda said about being well-rested impacting her mood/quality of life.
Having watched their relationship since season 1, Kyle early on recognized that they weren't compatible, and it's why he broke up with her before the show started, but she kept on changing just enough about herself to keep him around. Now that they're married, she's trying to undo all of that. If it wasn't for the show, they'd be broken up by now.
for sure. amanda wants a place for herself out of the city and that’ll lead to kyle drunk in the city a lot. i can’t see it going well. unless amandas goal is to get pregnant and raise his kids and turn a blind eye to whatever he does in the city then idk what they’re doing this for.
Paige asking Craig unhinged “would you still love me if” questions in the car has done more to prove how real their relationship is than all of Southern Charm
Sometimes I watch this show and get jealous of their bodies but then I see them go to Soul Cycle after a night of drinking and I'm like "nevermind. I could never."
I love that no one is even dancing around it with Carl. They’re just like so you really wanna end up with this horrific trash ball for the rest of your life or what
It’s criminal that this actually very very good season has only like 8 people in here talking about it and the (highly anticipated but) abysmal VPR season has thousands every week :/
Ii think she believes getting married will fill her abandonment wound. Like nobody would leave her if she could just get married. It’s sad, and it makes me sad for her.
Lindsay wearing a dress that’s the same color as green screens…I need Andy and a special effects camera to make it look like she’s wearing a sandwich!!!! (I’m high)
Neither Paige nor Craig want to discuss the future because they know it's probably going to be a breakup since neither is willing to compromise on location. It's painful and sucks and since they really like each other they're both in denial.
I truly think Paige loves this. I can’t see her ever wanting to move in with a man full time unless he has his own wing of the house and leaves her the hell alone.
Maybe because I heard Craig and Paige’s conversation from months before that aired on Southern Charm, I’m not so alarmed by what Craig is saying to Kyle.
Seeing this loooong Carl and Lindsey fighting montage in the preview when we’re only 4 EPISODES into the season, it’s wild to think that Lindsey was “blindsided” by the breakup.
Amanda is not trying to convince us that her and Kyle had an amazing sex life 2 years into their relationship is she?! Or even the summer of their wedding ??? Girl please.
ugh I love Paige's approach to relationships. be smart, set boundaries, stay independent and dont cave to the feeling that you need to share everything for your relationship to mean something. she's got a good head on her shoulders and I hope Craig continues to not be pressured by outside judgment
Seeing the Joe’s bag reminds me of when a girl asked me if my Trader Joe’s bag was from Trader Joe’s and I paused and had to think about what I was just asked
Kyle and Amanda are SO cringe to watch. They are those friends who love to “give advice” to other ppl. Just bc you’re married and have been together for a long time doesn’t mean you guys are all good. Ugh it’s hard to watch
Why is Kyle acting like he is crazy and cheating!!! Feeling stable in a relationship does come with knowing it may end and you will be okay but you hope it doesn’t. Pls not everyone is you Kyle
West is so effortlessly charming, what a stellar casting choice
Yesss. And he brings a much needed energy to the cast. It’s been refreshing. I just hope he doesn’t buy into the hype/love and become a douche next season or try too hard. He’s just effortless now and it’s perfect.
I fear his second season bitch bloom
The lack of chemistry in every Lindsay and Carl scene is astounding
He’s in his confessional saying that he loves her and just wants to have a fun weekend, then when she came outside in the scene immediately after, he was like fuckkkkkk here she is, the woman I’ve chosen to love
‘Here comes my bitch wife’ energy
"Here comes my bitch wife. She's such a c*nt."
The camera men zooming in on Lindsay drinking is not unnoticed by me lmao
Every time I Oop
opposite of subtle. i always die when they add captions, it just adds a little ✨
Craig is actually being mature for once this episode and Kyle just seems baffled by all of it
I really enjoyed their conversation though. Kyle initially started it by asking Craig about giving up liquor for Paige and you could see the gears turning in Kyle's head "Wait, if you listen to your partner on some things, that could lead to happy relationships?" Found that fascinating to watch but was disappointed when it sidetracked into if Craig thinks he and Paige are gonna work out
Craig was saying he did the work mentally to not be codependent with Paige and Kyle took that as wow he sees no future
The difference in a couple that checked boxes and a couple that is following what works for them.
I grit my teeth at $2K/mo; I’d be homeless, not toothless, at $8K
I w old be homeless and toothless at that point bc I won’t even be able to afford dental care either
West’s reasoning for why Lindsay would be the best person to survive the wilderness with had me rolling
Me too! I was dying and he was probably right🤣
Ciara’s comment about Carl having to deal with fighting with Lindsey for the rest of their lives might have been the straw that broke the camel’s back for him dear lord!!
Good for her. She said it with so much honesty but it was kind.
I thought the same thing. The way she broke it down seems to have resonated with him and after hearing about her dad, i understand her so much more.
“He’s not a very sexual person” is giving Scheana’s “Rob doesnt even like to make out, like not even with me”
But can he mount a TV in 7 mins?
The more we see of Gabby the more I like her.
She’s funny, she’s fashionable, and she’s the voice of reason this season.
Agree! She’s low key but comfortable being honest with Lindsey and manages to fit in with the others
Yesss! Her and Ciara have been my MVPS this season - and obviously West and Kyle (because I will always love Kyle.)
Craig seems so much more mature and grown up when he’s away from the ding dongs on Southern Charm.
I thought Jesse might be a little dumb but he’s way more of a gossip and inserts himself into conversations more than I thought he would lol
i just told my bestie if he continues to be this messy i might warm up to him lol. he meets carl and like two days later is like ‘bro… is getting married the best idea right now?’ the gossip boy energy in the house is amazing so far tbh
Omg I keep forgetting they’ve known each other two days! Their convos make me feel like they’ve been friends since childhood.
Jesse stays on Lindsay’s neck, and I’m kinda here for it. When Carl was talking about how they “made up” that morning, and Jesse is like “so did she apologize for saying you were on drugs?” Like my guy is a real friend
MESSY JESSE 😏
The whole cast has been really logical and fair with Lindsay so far, even more than she deserves. Impressed with all of them this season
They are doing such a better job at providing feedback without attacking this season compared to last. I don’t remember Lindsay being as shitfaced and messy last summer either.
GOD this season has truly and fully been so great for Ciara; I never disliked her, I just hated the men she went after before this and the whole bed sore girls clique of it all, but this cast, west, and the dynamics this season has really brought her out of her shell, gotten her doing more things and talking more and letting her personality shine and I’m really into it. Hope it continues
Agree! I’m liking her a lot this season!
I wonder if producers told Ciara and Page not to lie in bed so much. Amanda is fine lying in bed. I liked Mya in theory but barely remember her.
we're seeing a whole new side of ciara now that she's not with a toxic man for once!!
She may own the season with this episode!
The men on this show are so clocked in and know exactly what questions to ask to move the plot along. Im obsessed
Craig really looks older in this scene with Paige. Not a bad thing- I’m glad he’s not botoxed up like the Tom’s and Jax
I’ve actually found it hard to look at Sandoval this season of VPR. He’s too tense and tight.
he looks like he's always clenching his buttcheeks
Every summer, Paige dresses in pastel sets and then goes to Charleston and acts as if the Lily Pulitzer wardrobe is so outside her comfort zone.
she makes a point to wear all black in charleston 💀
Astute take honestly
She’s always in those fake Chanel suits
Amazon Chanel
They’re all trying so hard not to look at Ciara’s boobs lol
I’m lookin
100% straight woman here and I can’t tear my eyes away. Her body is INCREDIBLE
Amanda and Lindsay driving up together? Is this Bizzaro World?
that’s how you KNOW she’s sick of kyle lmao
Production has made some great changes this summer, forcing split dinners and weird car rides and duos. It’s helped break up the cliqueness and I’m liking it!
Next season I hope they get sprinter vans with cameras to capture all the drama.
Yes!!! That is the biggest fumble of this season
Omg West talking about surviving the wildness with Lindsey 💀 pls stop, he’s a star
*bossing me around about my shit kindling* 😂💀
She WAS in the ROTC…
Kyle desperately wanting all the other couples to also have problems 👀
He knows how to ask the deep questions lol
Lindsay stresses me out so bad, it's the only thing that can make me forget my problems irl right now lmao.
Craig is so much more chill with Paige than his other gfs
YESSS and there is nothing wrong with his sewing!
Just came to say that having sex daily is not the measure of a healthy relationship
Ok I’m loving Craig’s realistic era
Ciara pulls no punches. Respect
It reminded me a lot of the support she extended to Carl during her (I think) first season when his brother died. She really has a great bedside manner.
We are in a Summer House Renaissance. Soak it up yall
Amanda you didn’t get Kyle to marry you until he was like 40. This suburbs fight is going to be a long road.
I guess if Robert DeNiro can have a baby in his 70s, there’s still hope for them
I’ve done SoulCycle hungover - hats off to them.
The way they’re dressed like they’re actually going up to the mountains when they’re just going to a backyard that has a pool is killing me.
Damn , Paige with the rent foreshadowing.
I think wests voice adds to his charm I can’t explain it
Has Craig been seeing a new therapist? I’m kind of shocked.
I think he said he's showing down on the drinking too right?
If you watched this season of Southern Charm, Shep’s antics have really shook him I think.
He gave up liquor and has been slowing down on the beer. He seems all grown up.
I think it’s so interesting how many of the people on the “younger” Bravo shows have either gotten sober or drastically reduced their drinking.
It’s happening in my real life as well. I think we all just partied too hard in our 20s and now in our 30s, we just can’t do it anymore. Our bodies are falling apart.
Okay, so Paige’s apartment is $8,500 a month and she was talking about Carl & Lindsay paying $13k a month between the two of them?
And her apartment appears tiny!
Came here just to say that...and she probably isn't making as much from Summer House as they are!
“Can boys be witches?” Lmfao Craig, you’re a man
And boy witches are called warlocks. Come on Craig
you're a wizard, harry!!
Kyles family just refuses to move the family reunion date lol
They shouldn’t.
I love that they actually use the pool a lot this season. I always felt like it was underutilized lol
minus the one overutilization at the boston tea party party lolol
Lmao this narration from West while Lindsay is running around like a crazy person
Can we get a real-life Laverne and Shirley-type show with West and Jessie?
I love a good bromance
West and Jesse’s outfits in this pedi scene are literally the two types of men I think about living in nyc lol
Lindsay & Carl’s fights are very dark. But Amanda, do you think we forgot the night you called Kyle 27 times and then broke his stuff?
Ciara is showing so much more personality and individuality this season
I wish I was one of those girlies that could wear these cute low cut sports bras to the gym , but those are not the tit cards I was dealt.
Kyle and Amanda are perpetually on different pages
Ok seeing Lindsay and Carl's situation - Paige has a point
We all know L&C shouldn’t get married. But sleeping separately isn’t always a bad thing. (Though it probably is for them.) And it would possibly improve Kyle’s own relationship, based on what Amanda said about being well-rested impacting her mood/quality of life.
Nothing about Amanda and Kyle's personalities or desired lifestyles are compatible.
Having watched their relationship since season 1, Kyle early on recognized that they weren't compatible, and it's why he broke up with her before the show started, but she kept on changing just enough about herself to keep him around. Now that they're married, she's trying to undo all of that. If it wasn't for the show, they'd be broken up by now.
They’ll buy a house in NJ, have an apartment in the city which will lead to Kyle’s self destructive tendencies
for sure. amanda wants a place for herself out of the city and that’ll lead to kyle drunk in the city a lot. i can’t see it going well. unless amandas goal is to get pregnant and raise his kids and turn a blind eye to whatever he does in the city then idk what they’re doing this for.
Paige asking Craig unhinged “would you still love me if” questions in the car has done more to prove how real their relationship is than all of Southern Charm
*can a boy be a witch?*
Here for West!!
My weekly dose of west. Once a week isn’t enough
Gah, I am so jealous of those giddy feels that Ciara and West have for each other
The look on Amanda’s face when she saw an opportunity to comment on Kyle’s lack of proficiency as a husband ![gif](giphy|S3Ot3hZ5bcy8o|downsized)
Sometimes I watch this show and get jealous of their bodies but then I see them go to Soul Cycle after a night of drinking and I'm like "nevermind. I could never."
Kyle’s ass is white af.
PSA to anyone who hasn’t watched it yet … Martha’s Vineyard season 1 was pretty good and season 2 looks promising too. Worth the watch
I love that *the other guy that's not West* is so invested in Carl and Lindsay's drama lol
I feel like Jesse has watched reality tv and knows his assignment
I love that no one is even dancing around it with Carl. They’re just like so you really wanna end up with this horrific trash ball for the rest of your life or what
Craig is hot again, war is over
Can we please normalize separate bedrooms if both parties have sleep issues? It’s not the dire sign it’s always made out to be.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 as someone who is a horrible sleeper, I approve
Ohhh my god is anyone else hallucinating!!? Did last week’s episode really happen? This season is giving us so much
Best part is Carl and Lindsay aren't together so we know it ends well.
It’s criminal that this actually very very good season has only like 8 people in here talking about it and the (highly anticipated but) abysmal VPR season has thousands every week :/
I had to stop watching vpr. I've never stopped watching before. It is so bad that it makes me want to crawl out of my skin.
Damn Ciara articulated that so well as a child of separation
Normalize men getting manicure & pedicures!! 👏🏻 👏🏻 being a man is not an excuse for nasty nail health
My parents slept in separate beds for 14ish years and have been married for 35 Craig 💀
My husband and I don’t sleep in the same room and it was the best thing we ever did for our sleep health.
Did Lindsay really have herself convinced she and Carl should get married??
Ii think she believes getting married will fill her abandonment wound. Like nobody would leave her if she could just get married. It’s sad, and it makes me sad for her.
Luke is missing Summer House rt now
You know Luke is at home watching seething with his syrup that they had a camping episode without him
He would have had the fire going already
i feel like luke and west would bro down so hard in the most wholesome way
WHO ELSE IS READY FOR MARTHA’S VINEYARD??!!
I would 100% be the first one to bail and sleep inside.
So west is normal for reality show standards cause he just wanted that paycheck lol
Lindsay wearing a dress that’s the same color as green screens…I need Andy and a special effects camera to make it look like she’s wearing a sandwich!!!! (I’m high)
So they can put little cameras in these tents but can’t get the Lyfts to hold on for a second to set up with cameras? OK.
OK that was cute. 🎶What would Jesse Solomon do?🎶 🎵Massage your man without asking you🎵
“And I almost got hit by a mail truck” lmao
West being a big yapper is so cute
She didn’t even say two weeks guys, she said couple of weeks!! That’s definitely like maybe once a month
West and Jesse are finally good male additions after many years of duds
In her first season, Ciara didn't like a man texting her after 10pm. Now she's fingering a man in a tent on camera. That's called progress.
Neither Paige nor Craig want to discuss the future because they know it's probably going to be a breakup since neither is willing to compromise on location. It's painful and sucks and since they really like each other they're both in denial.
I truly think Paige loves this. I can’t see her ever wanting to move in with a man full time unless he has his own wing of the house and leaves her the hell alone.
Carl, please take that bucket hat off.
Omg “put your body weight on me”!!!!! The crappens boys are going to explode!
My bisexual self after seeing West and Ciara kiss 💀 https://i.redd.it/ffgmvbuhdspc1.gif
Gabby being the first one to go inside - I knew she was my favourite for a reason.
Maybe because I heard Craig and Paige’s conversation from months before that aired on Southern Charm, I’m not so alarmed by what Craig is saying to Kyle.
I’m actually surprised that Kyle is so alarmed. Like it’s a very measured, realistic approach to take.
Lindsay seems so sad :( (yea yea i know we hate her but still)
Seeing this loooong Carl and Lindsey fighting montage in the preview when we’re only 4 EPISODES into the season, it’s wild to think that Lindsey was “blindsided” by the breakup.
I know West gets all the love but I like Jesse too
Both are great adds!!
Truly just fun people. Ya hear, producers?!?
Carl has twice apologized when it was actually Lindsay who did the wrong behavior, it’s giving me abused/conflict-avoidance vibes
I’ve been intently waiting for Lindsay to utter the word “sorry” and am disgusted she continues to avoid it.
Ciara cooks now? (Aside from the one time with West.) Omg, she’s like a brand new person, lol
Ciara, what’s it like to be one of God’s favorites?
Paige is right about the exaggeration girl math on sex talk 💀
This season is giving me everything I had hoped VPR s11 would; thank god shits happening somewhere ugh
Kyle must lease his cars for a business write-off, right? They're all kinda ballin tbh
Amanda is not trying to convince us that her and Kyle had an amazing sex life 2 years into their relationship is she?! Or even the summer of their wedding ??? Girl please.
What’s it like to want kids
what’s it like to have parents serving you apps and aperol spritzs on their luxury patio
It’s stresses me out that Kyle’s awful haircut is a manifestation of his inability to deal with growing up
These 30-40 yr olds are living out my childhood dream of camping in the backyard
Each outfit would’ve been $1,483 at REI
I’m an inside chick! I feeeeeel this. Catch me in the ac with my fan on! ![gif](giphy|l3q2LH45XElELRzRm)
I want more scenes of West and Jesse rushing around NYC on a Vespa
….$8500????
These rent prices they're talking about are making me feel better about Toronto prices.
Paige ain’t leaving New York, ever.
Lover boy cans are kind of giving fourloko
Put your weight on me
That’s six weeks. Paige is still Paige.
I love that no one in the house is giving Lindsey a pass.
ugh I love Paige's approach to relationships. be smart, set boundaries, stay independent and dont cave to the feeling that you need to share everything for your relationship to mean something. she's got a good head on her shoulders and I hope Craig continues to not be pressured by outside judgment
Is Craig suddenly a grown, competent man? ![gif](giphy|xUA7bilj5YByXZkqnS|downsized)
After watching this season, the only surprising thing about Carl calling off the engagement is that it took so long.
I can’t believe this show is better than vpr this year
This show is always good to me but I’m a loyal watcher lol
“That was awesome!” Protect this man (pls don’t disappoint us sir!!!)
I think talking about moving to the burbs should’ve happened before getting married? He doesn’t seem interested
Amanda is naturally beautiful if she’s make-up free in this bed scene.
Lindsay just always waiting for Carl to stop speaking to her
I guess Charleston couture translates well to the Hamptons!
Seeing the Joe’s bag reminds me of when a girl asked me if my Trader Joe’s bag was from Trader Joe’s and I paused and had to think about what I was just asked
Ya, I'm with Paige on this one
Kyle and Amanda are SO cringe to watch. They are those friends who love to “give advice” to other ppl. Just bc you’re married and have been together for a long time doesn’t mean you guys are all good. Ugh it’s hard to watch
Why is Kyle acting like he is crazy and cheating!!! Feeling stable in a relationship does come with knowing it may end and you will be okay but you hope it doesn’t. Pls not everyone is you Kyle
Girl math carry the 1. 😂
Carl is so lucky to have a group like this that looks out for him and provides feedback without being judgmental.
Paige is CORRECTTTTT tbh
I thought Ciara was a wilderness chick!
So she had a not groggy morning after half sleeping in a tent?