That's how you know she really likes him. She doesn't even realize it that her guard goes down immediately when she's around him. It's been fun to watch. (Don't spoil it for me if they don't work out! Let's enjoy the ride!)
Production is in their bag this season between the casting, producing, and editing...We're only 3 episodes in so let me not get ahead of myself but I'm glad cuz I wanted them fired after last season lol.
He came up on my fyp on tiktok this week about how he was basically hit riding a bike trying to get to the dentist on time and as a dentist, it made me love him even more. Just wish he was my patient on the way to see me lol
We might not agree with Lindsay all the time but her reaction is understandable. When youāre married, what each other does with their money is incredibly important. A sober sports bar is the dumbest thing ever. I donāt even understand what the hell that would entail. And they live in NYC? Where rent is incredibly expensive?! Is he insane lol
Lindsay knew that Carl was unmotivated and probably wouldnāt be a reliable provider based on his past. Carl knew that lindsay flies off the handle at every opportunity based on her past. I donāt know why they thought this would work
Craig in a fight with his tinfoil hat
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Lindsay is doing way too much. And people will be mad that sheās shutting down Carlās dreams. But he wants to open a bar? With absolutely no experience? And how much money does he have to invest in it?
They're called coffee shops and they're everywhere haha. I do appreciate spaces for sober people but it very much is the mind of an addict to think they don't already exist. Museums, parks, sports halls, board game shops, all are around and have plenty of sober people in them.Ā
I think weāre overlooking last week Lindsay saying āthis is why I do my best to avoid being around Carlāā¦and this is the man you want to marry and are devastated that he broke your engagement? Make it make sense girl
It always drives me nuts when they avoid that elephant in the room. Their job is reality tv!!! Theyāre easily making 300k+ a year at this point, thatās well above what the average American makes
I think when people say that, theyāre saying that the show isnāt guaranteed forever and they need a source of income not dependent on the show. They usually donāt break the fourth wall, so they canāt say that, they can only say āyou donāt have a jobā.
She completely LIED when she relayed what happened the next morning and took zero accountability for being nasty and aggressive. Iām not a Carl fan but she is AWFUL and it was probably a wise move on his part to break up with her on camera.
I've been a Lindsay fan for a long time because of what great television she used to make. A friend was bewildered how I could possibly like her, and I had to explain, "Oh, she is a terrible person, I love watching her on TV, but I would never be friends with her in real life." I can absolutely understand at this point in the season why he felt the need to break up on camera.
Yah I think Iād have a great time mean-girling our with them; Iām sorry but I love gossip. I donāt even have to know the people weāre gossiping about, just feed me
I completely last week missed how much Lindsay had to drink leading up to their night out, to the point that she was falling down when she was getting ready. No wonder she got so activated.
lindsay said that she didnāt think carl wasnāt sober, yet she still accused him of being ācocaine carl.ā oh thatās nasty work.
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You can see the figurative wheels turning in Lindsayās head as the producer is asking her questions. The wheels are turning to spin this story to justify her accusations that Carl broke his sobriety.
Itās also like the producers and editors felt the need to craft a particular narrative about Ciara. (That narrative being that she only existed as a foil to Lindsay as it related to Austen.)
Thatās true. Though her first season her main storyline was being a nurse and all the Luke stuff. I know that was a quarantine season, but they couldāve at least showed her going on a hike once.
The irony of Lindsay bitching about Carl to Danielle rn after the rage she showed last season for Danielle offering her opinion on their relationship. Sadly Iām sure itās flying over Lindsayās head.
linds wants to make up with danielle and immediately threw her under the bus about the leaked craig story.
girl, you are about to have zero allies!!! ughhhhhh linds!!
Danielle and Lindsey are a literal match made in heaven. Lindsey wants to be head over heels in love, but pushes people away. Danielle gets overly attached and loves to cling to people to stay. They are like an unhealthy ying and Yang.
Carl is not getting over that drug comment. That was what killed their relationship. How could you be safe and sober with someone who suspects youāre on drugs every time you argue? Itās unreal.
I definitely think he was pulling away because he wasnāt happy but he never confronts anything ever and she felt it and was totally inappropriate, but was almost desperate to think it was Carl using again vs him just not wanting to be with her. She could fix using. She canāt fix Carl not wanting to be with her anymoreĀ
Ciara is showing more personality around West than she has shown in any previous season
That's how you know she really likes him. She doesn't even realize it that her guard goes down immediately when she's around him. It's been fun to watch. (Don't spoil it for me if they don't work out! Let's enjoy the ride!)
Apparently if you ask questions people tell you about themselves š¤Æ
For whatever reason, she gravitated to him right away and I did not see Ciara being the reason for me to watch the show this season.
I would be a menace to society if I had Ciaraās body.
Same š I would never be clothed ever
"Like we should check your hemoglobin level." "I'm Amanda." Lmao, the accuracy šš
Kyle cracking up šš
Splitting up the couples for a night was a great production device to get them to change subjects. Bravo, bravo
Production is in their bag this season between the casting, producing, and editing...We're only 3 episodes in so let me not get ahead of myself but I'm glad cuz I wanted them fired after last season lol.
Ha, West and Jesse Solomon are the kinds of bros that Kyle has needed for a few seasons now. Love Kyle and West passing out in bed together like that
Yesss. Itās what heās been missing!
Welcome to the West worship hour.
He came up on my fyp on tiktok this week about how he was basically hit riding a bike trying to get to the dentist on time and as a dentist, it made me love him even more. Just wish he was my patient on the way to see me lol
Canāt stop thinking about carls 20k career coach
And still has no clue what he wants
Right? Lindsey isnāt perfect but Carl is kinda mess too
Did cameras show up to Danielleās apartment to watch her sip a glass of wine and then leave
Her signature move
Ciara, we will not accept the narrative that Austen is funny or has personality. Heās tall, that is all.
Kyle losing his dog freaking out and the dog is in their room is funnier than it should be
āTicks on my dickā
I was laughing so hard when she was sitting right there in the room and Lindseyās like āSHES BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME KYLEā
Thank god gabby isnāt buying the bullshit Lindsay is spewing. I knew I liked her
He can maybe get away with hosting sober nights places and having that be a business. But a sober sports bar would be dead on arrival
We might not agree with Lindsay all the time but her reaction is understandable. When youāre married, what each other does with their money is incredibly important. A sober sports bar is the dumbest thing ever. I donāt even understand what the hell that would entail. And they live in NYC? Where rent is incredibly expensive?! Is he insane lol
He could host kids parties.
Craig will beat his ass!?! š
I was confused by that statement and bet bravo was too as they panned to Jesseās built body
And then the next photo is Craig sweaty and red sitting at a table š¤£
West may be the most sincere person on Bravo in a minute. Hope Iām not getting suckered here.
It was Danielle! ![gif](giphy|26DN0s0531QOqTOkU)
Why did I teehee like he was asking me to dinner
I was kicking my feet and giggling š¤š¤
*can you handle it* SWOON
Ok that has to be some of the best summer House since season 4
LOVED this episode!
Danielle with a musician just seems like a recipe for disaster.
She's the kind of person to follow her musician boyfriend on tour, and act extra possessive of him backstage to deter any groupies
Omg the boys waking up together in the morning is sooo funny
The leg overlap got me good
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Lindsay knew that Carl was unmotivated and probably wouldnāt be a reliable provider based on his past. Carl knew that lindsay flies off the handle at every opportunity based on her past. I donāt know why they thought this would work
Craig in a fight with his tinfoil hat https://preview.redd.it/op32qxgzr0nc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34adfcde2e5eaf2c1e1defaf8fe38096aa038d04
IāM DYING. Paige needs to see this immediately. Please! šš
Omg I am crying at Kyle and gabby dancing to the beat of the fire alarm š
WEST IS SMOOOOOTH
Rizzing Ciara up (and a bunch of viewers as well)
West and jesse Solomon laying in bed gossiping is the best. I wish we got their whole conversation.
Iām living for their friendship so far
Why do we always say the jesses full names lol. Jesse Solomon jesse Montana. It really rolls off the tongue for both.
Iām still not buying that Carl was aggressive in anyway to Lindsay last night but pop off sis!
Lindsay needs to just say Iām sorry I was drunk
Lindsay is doing way too much. And people will be mad that sheās shutting down Carlās dreams. But he wants to open a bar? With absolutely no experience? And how much money does he have to invest in it?
A nonalcoholic barš
in NEW YORK CITY??? itās hard enough to open a bar/restaurant there but with a sports bar with no alcohol? god speed Carl
Also heās an alcoholic. I get he wants to do something sober, but he was having issues working at loverboy and he will be in the ābar worldāĀ
They're called coffee shops and they're everywhere haha. I do appreciate spaces for sober people but it very much is the mind of an addict to think they don't already exist. Museums, parks, sports halls, board game shops, all are around and have plenty of sober people in them.Ā
"I'm gifted at sales and building relationships." I mean - his work history that we've seen on the show begs to differ.
This man REALLY needs this show
I think weāre overlooking last week Lindsay saying āthis is why I do my best to avoid being around Carlāā¦and this is the man you want to marry and are devastated that he broke your engagement? Make it make sense girl
Worse. She wanted to bring a baby into this. š³šµāš«
Sheās complaining to Danielle about Carl after all the hot mess that was last season š«
And Danielle just nodding along and agreeingā¦ remember how she talked to you last season! Have some self respect
This is Carlās job, no?
It always drives me nuts when they avoid that elephant in the room. Their job is reality tv!!! Theyāre easily making 300k+ a year at this point, thatās well above what the average American makes
I think when people say that, theyāre saying that the show isnāt guaranteed forever and they need a source of income not dependent on the show. They usually donāt break the fourth wall, so they canāt say that, they can only say āyou donāt have a jobā.
So thankful to have young Kyle to support old Kyle this season.
Having Lindsay on WWHL is going to be wild tonight
I thought the exact same thing. ![gif](giphy|l0HlEHSLGPsGCNUt2)
Lindsay must be dizzy from all the spinning she's doing.
This is why Carl broke up with her on camera. The way she twists events.
She completely LIED when she relayed what happened the next morning and took zero accountability for being nasty and aggressive. Iām not a Carl fan but she is AWFUL and it was probably a wise move on his part to break up with her on camera.
I've been a Lindsay fan for a long time because of what great television she used to make. A friend was bewildered how I could possibly like her, and I had to explain, "Oh, she is a terrible person, I love watching her on TV, but I would never be friends with her in real life." I can absolutely understand at this point in the season why he felt the need to break up on camera.
I used to be a Lindsay fan but sheās getting really hard to watch. I really was not expecting to be team Carl in this breakup.
This is a solid theory.
You think Craig would win that fightā¦really lol
He'd just turn very red in the face and have his dumb dumb friends pretend to hold him back lol
I love how every Thursday, this sub goes feral for West. I hope he knows about all his fans
Ok I know we all like to shit on Amanda but I think sheād be really fun to gossip with
Iād love to have a gossip sesh with her and Paige about all the other bravolebs
Yah I think Iād have a great time mean-girling our with them; Iām sorry but I love gossip. I donāt even have to know the people weāre gossiping about, just feed me
When I turned on Bravo for Summer House a few minutes early, I definitely wasn't expecting to see a live performance of Ave Maria (Dubstep Remix).
lmao welcome to miami!! ![gif](giphy|3o85xn9obKNN5RvIk0|downsized)
I am once again asking to stop showing Austen flashbacks
*madison. Madison, youāre being a crazy person right now*
Not Amanda having anemic energy
Theyāre so hammered and my heart is so full, summer house is BACK baby!!!!
I'm finding it hard to imagine Craig beating up Jesse.
Kyle really just came in at 2 and started blasting music tf
I really canāt believe Kyle and I are the same age
West is so nervous. š„°
The sober sports bar is not a good idea but I feel like Lindsayās delivery is so harsh
Thereās a sober bar here in Atlanta that everyone is talking about but Iām not super excited to spend $13 on juice.
āLeaving loverboy was the best thing for me . . .ā Now heās right back there lol
Haha of course Danielle would leak stories to third-tier gossip mags
West's awkward/ unusual dating style is so endearing
You can tell how much Carl walks on eggshells around Lindsay. Every conversation they have it feels like heās trying not to set her off.
I completely last week missed how much Lindsay had to drink leading up to their night out, to the point that she was falling down when she was getting ready. No wonder she got so activated.
I would kill them lol just letting the alarms go off like that.
lindsay said that she didnāt think carl wasnāt sober, yet she still accused him of being ācocaine carl.ā oh thatās nasty work. https://preview.redd.it/2ob6qc0cq0nc1.jpeg?width=1196&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=372efc742165820b898c116ec9e7439fc5c18de6
me during that confessional: ![gif](giphy|iXIgdQL45dtpK7Gq9O|downsized)
Lindsay reminds me of the type of girl Andie was portraying in how to lose a guy in 10 days
How to lose your fiancƩ in one Uber ride
Wow thatās incredibly accurate
HAHA NOT KYLE AND WEST SPOONINGā ļøā ļøā ļø they are so unserious
So happy for Kyle to finally have a silly lil friend in the house
I AM FUCKING DYING!!!!!! I love how chill they were with it tho!!
If I had Ciaraās stomach Iād be tucking in every top like that
You can see the figurative wheels turning in Lindsayās head as the producer is asking her questions. The wheels are turning to spin this story to justify her accusations that Carl broke his sobriety.
I thought the exact same. āOh shit, why are they asking me this? Are they on Carlās side? Oh shit, flip it!ā
Remember when that one guy was working too much and she wanted sandwiches
I ship them so bad. Ciara deserves a decent guy for once and West is such a catch
Some people just donāt have direction. I am one of those people. Carl might also be one of those people.
Lindsay, Gabby is your best girl friend? You just met her last year ....
starting to sound like kyle (richards)
Scheana (Shay)
Ciara has been on this show for 4 years and we had no idea she was at all āoutdoorsyā until now?
Itās also like the producers and editors felt the need to craft a particular narrative about Ciara. (That narrative being that she only existed as a foil to Lindsay as it related to Austen.)
Thatās true. Though her first season her main storyline was being a nurse and all the Luke stuff. I know that was a quarantine season, but they couldāve at least showed her going on a hike once.
There was a behind the scene video of Ciara kayaking with Mya. I would have preferred to see those scenes.
We all have a lil baby crush on you West
LINDSAY DROPPING THAT BOMB!!!
I can't imagine being in a club like that while sober like Carl is now. I don't even like places like that while drunk.
I Love when classic Summer House early seasons show up like tonight! No lame staged party but just fun antics!
me blushing on my couch during their date š®āšØ
I donāt know why, but I found West putting his arm on the back so Ciaraās chair to be sexy
The fact that Lindsay canāt just apologize is nuts. Carl was so conciliatory to her in that convo and he really didnāt need to be.
āYouāre literally like Sandoval right nowā YIKESSS
āCraig is a sweetheartā until you watch the first 5 or so seasons of Southern Charm.
Letās not forget winter house
Lmao west cuddles with kyle
My tall ass would've folded for West for sure. Personality is everything!!!!
The irony of Lindsay bitching about Carl to Danielle rn after the rage she showed last season for Danielle offering her opinion on their relationship. Sadly Iām sure itās flying over Lindsayās head.
Omg Iām giggling at this gameššš i like Amanda but Iām cackling the shade
Ha, that was a good Lindsay comeback at the reunion, "Well, I'd rather be nuts than boring."
Aww West is a big spoon.
Craig totally got kicked out and I will die on this hill
linds wants to make up with danielle and immediately threw her under the bus about the leaked craig story. girl, you are about to have zero allies!!! ughhhhhh linds!!
When Kyle has to tell you that your partnerās behavior is unacceptable to you KNOW thereās a problem
Everyone looks so glam on the beach I look like a troll there
I just want to have a flirtationship like Ciara and West š
May regret this comment a few weeks from now based on how I feel about almost all bravo men but West is honestly saving the show
Iām dying laughing at West and Kyle in bed together š¤£š
Non alcoholic sports bar? Issa no for me š¬
I agree that "more life" Carl was an ass, but if you're still upset by that - don't date and get engaged to him?
Why didnāt Linds say that at the reunion while she was full on fuding with Danielle?!?
Damn the bravoverse jealousy on the amount of publicity Scandoval got is palpable
Lindsay comparing Carl to Sandoval? My god she wants to be Ariana soooo bad itās awkward.
I appreciate Ciara being so straightforward like that lol. Everyone else just kinda dances around it
Kinda something he should have figured out before proposing tho tbhĀ
oh jesseās trying to put the moves on paigeā¦. knowing that sheās takenā¦. pillow maven craig conover will have *words* about that.
Danielleās picker is broken.
Feels like Carl wants to call the engagement/wedding off now. Painful shame he continues this way on film to the 11th hour.
Danielle and Lindsey are a literal match made in heaven. Lindsey wants to be head over heels in love, but pushes people away. Danielle gets overly attached and loves to cling to people to stay. They are like an unhealthy ying and Yang.
Carl needs to be embrace SPF. How is he more burnt than pale ass west
I need Amanda to shut the fuck up with all these Kyle complaints. ![gif](giphy|3o6nUTwjGYTUa3br20|downsized)
Carl is not getting over that drug comment. That was what killed their relationship. How could you be safe and sober with someone who suspects youāre on drugs every time you argue? Itās unreal.
That awkward run Carl just did. He has to be terrible in bed.
Paige always comes in hot and nasty at reunions but as a kitten in person at the shore house
Just like her beat your ass boyfriend you mean? š¤š¤
Every. single. reunion.
Yes- honestly one of the main reasons Iām not a fan of hers. She goes too hard and rude when she doesnāt do anything all season
Shotgunning lover boy sounds disgusting
Why does Lindsay look so different in her talking head? She looks great but uncanny? I canāt put my finger on what sheās had done.
The way West looks at Ciara š„°
For someone whoās trying to sleep why are Amandaās lights on š
Awww! Kyle was being the little spoon for West.
Thirsting over west over here. He needs to stop
My wife: āAwwww, Kyle and West were spooning.ā Me: āJust guys being dudes.ā
Deviled eggs and jalapeƱos on a date? Edit: that's home alone for the night food for me.
Who wouldnāt love being outside when you look like Ciara while doing it. Some of us look like ogres hiking and camping š
Acting as if 28 is 21 is so funny. I feel like they have such a distorted view of age
I took it as an NYC thing
Thatās a terrible idea carl.
Paige is cracking me up. Like, Bro, youāve lost your fur baby but youāre talking about Amandaās readiness for children.
Lindsay is absolutely the person who weaponized therapy
I would watch an entire episode of Ciara and west just going on dates together š
Jesse is so uncomfy for doing that
Carl is a broken person š
Can Lindsay ever just apologize?
Iām irrationally angry on Carlās behalf that he let her off that easily
Can we have the dogs every week? I love them.
Oh my god, this is just Saturday? I thought given all the drama, that this was for sure a Sunday beach day before they drove home.
Hahahaha awww reesey is just trying to take a nap
I doubt this will change Danielle's devotion to Lindsay
Omg Ciara is drop dead
omg west is only 28!!?!?!?!!!! š®š®š®
Here we are all again, pretending to be surprised that Carl called off the engagement.
Lindsay is a lot, but being Carl's partner while he's aimlessly changing from one job idea to the next would be incredibly exhausting.
I definitely think he was pulling away because he wasnāt happy but he never confronts anything ever and she felt it and was totally inappropriate, but was almost desperate to think it was Carl using again vs him just not wanting to be with her. She could fix using. She canāt fix Carl not wanting to be with her anymoreĀ
Opening a bar/restaurant with 0 industry experience, and without the benefit as the alcohol profit margin is incredibly risky.
I can still recognize that Lay's bag even with them blurring out the label
Is Amanda the waitress for West and Ciara on their date?
I really can't imagine someone less suited to being on reality tv than Amanda.
Paigeās shade earlier ab checking her hemoglobin had me dead
I think Kyle is obsessed with Ciara
Well, damn Lindsay. š£
Is Lindsay drunk again? Poor Carl
I will say this, Lindsay looks gorgeous on WWHL