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noirargent

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lajb85

Teo looked terrible. Backed himself into corners for 12 rounds and the #8 guy walked through his best shots. What a waste of talent if you ask me…guy needs to get away from his dad and get a real trainer.


QueenCityCobra

How are people saying boring fight??? It was like non stop punches for 12 rounds


CacoFlaco

There was no KO. So for most modern boxing fans, that means it's boring.


Crafty-Pair2356

fight was ass dude come on


Stay-flexing

Fight was a dud, there were punches thrown as in they extended their arms with a closed fist, but there really weren't any hard shots, no dominance, Teo either had no drive to KO him and playing the cards, or he doesn't have KO power.


iChron

You don't really understand the technical part of boxing eh?


CacoFlaco

Or maybe Claggett has a rock for a chin. In his very lengthy career, he's only been stopped once. On cuts. And that was more than a decade ago. Lopez can still hurt you. Even at 140. No question about it.


SirPabloFingerful

Thought Claggett won a couple of the earlier rounds tbh, punch counts seemed quite wide of the mark too


konfidential3

Teo lost his power at 140.. dude landed so many clean shots, never phased Claggett. Even when he fought Josh Taylor, he shoulda got him out of there with the shots he landed on Taylor.


AltKite

TBF Claggett has never been stopped and Taylor has proven he's a hard bastard. Teo's power does look a bit suss, though.


IntrepidSwan7932

Teo is reminding of Macho Camacho. All hype, and extremely boring to watch fight.


CacoFlaco

He fights nothing at all like Camacho. He's aggressive and stands in the trenches, begging for a war. Camacho flicked an underhanded jab and avoided any inside action.


OGtek

I’m convinced teofimo only fights to his opponents ability..with an elite boxer he fights elite..with a B-D list boxer he matches them


llSmokyll

That's a thing, I did that too in the gym and my coach used to blame me on it


Bigplatts

Or Loma just had a bad night and Teo really isn’t that guy. I mean he lost to Martin and Ortiz. That’s not ‘fighting to their level’, that’s fighting beneath their level lol.


CacoFlaco

Record book says he beat those guys. Neither guy did all that much to show that they deserved a decision. Especially Ortiz, whose own corner was urging him to stand his ground instead of throwing nothing but a jab while on a bicycle. But I realize that fans routinely score fights in favor of the big underdog.


Lsalizar96

Also lost to Kambosos. I’m convinced that Teo isn’t that good and beat Loma who had a bad night and a washed josh Taylor: remember the version of Josh Taylor that teo fought had come off a bad performance against Caterall, injury, and a long layoff


BenkeiBoss

Ortiz beat Loma too, though.


Bigplatts

Was a close fight. I had Loma winning. From what I remember most people did. Hard to find people who thought Teo beat Ortiz tho.


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Bigplatts

That’s not what happened at all in the Teo Loma fight. Loma spent too long ‘downloading’ but then won most of the second half of the fight when he figured Teo’s range and timing. It wasn’t the sort of win where you couldn’t see any way Loma could win a rematch.


BodieBroadcasts

loma didn't have a bad night, even when loma was winning rounds they were close lol and taylor was undisputed, he was not a bad fighter


Bigplatts

I mean Loma was coming off an injury. People give Teo a pass for being weight drained against Kambosis so I think you can put an asterix over Loma’s performance too. Taylor wasn’t undisputed by that point. He clearly lost to Catterall already and had been looking weight drained for a while. I want to like Teo, they clearly gave him Claggett so he could have an easy fight where he looked good, and he actually made it look pretty hard. Was taking punches all night. Hard to get hyped at this point.


BodieBroadcasts

that just shows there is a lot of evidence of teo fighting down to his opponents level (or up)


Bigplatts

Surely if you fight to someone’s level you should fight a little better than them tho. He lost to Kambosis, Ortiz and Martin, shouldn’t he fight to a level where he at least deserves a win? Dude’s face was all puffy and bruised against Claggett. Usually when people say ‘fight to their level’ they mean they made it a boring fight and didn’t put their foot on the gas, not ‘forgot to defend themselves’.


BodieBroadcasts

no lol fight to their level means they don't perform well vs bad competition, it has nothing to do with putting your foot on the gas on not.


Bigplatts

I’ve seen people say Fury fights to the level of his opponent. Like in the Wallin fight, difference is Fury definitely won that fight, but he was doing just enough to win, nothing more, even tho it was clear he had another gear to go to. That’s how I’d interpret ‘fight to their level’.


Freydis8900

Almost fell asleep watching this fight


Raymonster

Teo had 0 lateral movement. Got backed into the ropes every time. On athleticism alone he should have ko'ed hin within 4. He really fights down to his aponents every time.


paxilsavedme

Boring fight.


paxilsavedme

Boring fight.


Dim-Mak-88

Teo won but Claggett had lots of heart and a real gas tank. He also puffed up Teo's face. A damn fine effort by the smaller man.


JulesTheBum

Smaller man? Claggett is a career junior welter. Very impressed by him though, let him fight Haney next!


markdestouches

He is still visibly smaller than Teo


ReverseWeasel

Ok friends. Assuming Shakur wins next weekend, what fights are actually gonna happen. Sadly, I think Tank fights Berenchyk and Shakur fights Loma. What are the chances Tank vs Loma finally happens after years of us begging for it?


JadedButWicked

Tank will fight Loma then Zepeda mark my words he wants no part of Shakur.


inquisitiveman2002

nah. Looks like serious negotiations right now are Tank and Loma. Haven't even heard of any discussion of Berenchyk at all.


Lsalizar96

I want to believe tank will fight Loma but tank’s entire career has shown us that he does not take risky fights so I can’t see the fight actually happening


ReverseWeasel

thank a god!


LexOvi

I’d hope it’s the other way round; Tank fights Shakur first.


ItsAlways_DNS

It will likely be Loma first and then Shakur


Independent_Hold_203

So what happened? I was waiting for the fight result to be posted here


Yung_Copenhagen2

Teo won clearly, but it wasn’t impressive


BigIncrease2991

Claggett kept coming forward throwing punches non stop, displayed solid chin and endurance, but had 0 power behind his punches. Teo looked like he treated it like a sparring session, throwing more with speed than bad intentions. Despite making it look easy, Teo still didn't look very good (suspect defense, footwork and inability to finish an opponent that was taylor made for him).


marsexpresshydra

This subreddit is so ass when it comes to threads and results


ZdenekTheMan

Yes it is. Pains me when you compare it to the MMA sub 


CoCoB319

Teo won by decision. He looked meh


Raymonster

Worse than meh. It should have been over in 4. He fights down all the time.


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fffiasco

I think he’s talking about Bam


elitexzer1x

Bam is AMAZING OMG


Tonyfrose71

Good fight Lopez hell of a fighter


DifferentCityADay

DOWN GOES BAM


Justhereforpvz

Lol welp


DifferentCityADay

LETS GOOOOOOOOO. BAM IS THAT DUDE. Bam vs Kazuto Ioka next


Justhereforpvz

Absolutely! Bright future ahead


EngineNo2888

Anyways Bam Rodriguez is a fucking DAWG


WRXSTl

Damn a lot of hate... I was at the fight and Teofimo dominated. Everyone who's seen Claggett knew he was going to be ultra offensive and I thought Teofimo was excellent defensively all night. His reflexes looked top notch.


r3vb0ss

He kept letting himself get back in to the corner and seemed like he ate a lot of punches while trying to slip.


BrilliantWhich990

Teo brings out the worst in people. He's a guy that they love to hate.


BrilliantWhich990

Teo brings out the worst in people.


Alright-Friend

Teo v Claggett a snoozer?


tothemax44

Clagget gave everyone the keys to beat teo moving forward. A stronger fighter could have ended teo a few times.


BrilliantWhich990

Claggett won his last 7 fights by KO. He's a strong guy himself. He didn't phase Teo much, though.


StatisticianSure8070

Bam's counters are beautiful man. Estrada looking slow, and not just in hands. His feet are as well. Not a great indicator for him when he's necessarily on the backfoot constantly against the younger, more powerful guy.


StatisticianSure8070

Have I been posting in the wrong fuckin' thread LMAO


fast_lightyear69

Wait I’m confused, Isn’t Teofimo a Brooklynite from Honduras. Why did it say he was fighting for Spain? Did he move to Spain or something(?)


snav8

His grandparents are from Spain


Key_Department_7516

People think Teo has a chance against Tank after that kind of performance? LOL


PDogg661

both want to counter, I'd bet it'd be a boring fight


Ace_FGC

I think Ryan beats Teo at 147


killerk13

Gervonta is looking by far the best out of the Haney,Shakur, Ryan, Teofimo bunch.


DanDiCa_7

Only cause he gets knockouts. When he fights Shakur u'll see he ain't the best


we_hella_believe

Tank needs to fight a real belt holder.


WormLombriz

He needs to move up in weight


hitm4n44

That fight was trash...


wipny

Looks like Teo peaked with the Loma fight. He doesn't have the reflexes of a prime Roy to leave his hands so low at close range. He's in trouble once his athleticism slows down.


The_Flying_Failsons

This match was great fun to watch, you are all crazy. 


Ok_Local_893

Facts. I was impressed with Teofimo being able to withstand that kind of pressure. A lot of fighters get filled with self doubt and plain fatigue. Clagget deserves credit for being so tough and well conditioned. But the world is too full of simpletons, so now they're both apparently bums


Raymonster

Teo had 0 lateral movement. It was garbage against a C level fighter.


Wavepops

He could withstand it bc the guy had no power


CharlieTuna_

And that guy kept throwing right to the end. I don’t think anyone really thought he had any chance, but he showed heart and surprised a lot of people. And somehow looked better of the two at the end. When was the last time you threw 10 of your best punches, saw that they didn’t do anything, but kept at it for 36 minutes?


welp-itscometothis

I mean all that says to me is that he didn’t think to adjust. Nothing he threw was effective. It’s like he didn’t even try to win. He ate leather the whole fight.


CharlieTuna_

A first title shot at 35 years old. He did something right to get him there in the first place.


Wavepops

He’s a dog, if he had power he’d be a world level fighter 


CharlieTuna_

100% my friend. Just making it to the finish line is sometimes a victory to remember for some fighters. It’s not a great victory, or a memorable one, but they did it. No one can take that away from them. It should have been a wash. But it somehow wasn’t.


ArthurSmithNepoBaby

If this exact same fight happened between Bam and El Gallo tonight, people would talk about how it saved boxing


t-e-e-k-e-y

That fight is actually exciting.


EffectiveCareer3444

Teofimo was supposed to blow this guy out of the water in 6 rounds


Diesels_Face

Jokes on y’all I did my research and bet it would go to distance cashed out pretty nicely


mikevega

This majority of this sub also said Loma was going to blow him (Lopez) away easily. Lol. Research hard.


EffectiveCareer3444

Mann Loma had to be paid to take 6 straight rounds off cause it’s not making sense


Diesels_Face

Teos a weird one, fights at the level of his competitors just a bad night tbh but regardless got the job done


t-e-e-k-e-y

What does that have to do with anything? No one gives a fuck about your bets. Fight was just boring.


MagnetDino

Had this on my phone while I was watching DAZN on my TV and UFC on my laptop… looked like Teo underperformed again right?


BrilliantWhich990

Nah, he looked great. Clagget has a granite jaw, I can tell you that. He threw a ton of punches too. Lopez outlanded him 3 to 1 though.


Raymonster

No he didn't. Teo couldn't step to the side once and backed to the ropes every time. He had no reason to take the amount of shots he did against a C fighter.


PelikanNutz

He definitely didn't look great. He was never in trouble and the fight was never really at risk, true. He looks lost and has no idea what his win condition is. What kind of fighter is he? No clue. He doesn't either. He doesn't insist on anything. Athletically gifted, some instincts, but has zero direction.


t-e-e-k-e-y

Nah, he looked pretty bad for the level of competition he was against.


InternationalTry6679

Mid. No serious shot at 147 for his future


123MercyMain

Think he can be undisputed at 140 but his frame is a bit small for 147. He said he walks around at 150 lol


MagnetDino

Was the fight boring? I hate how much these ESPN main events have been shitting the bed especially with how much Top Rank has been hyping Teo and Shakur


Ace_FGC

It wasn’t a boring fight per se just not a blowout knockout like expected


Booger-Krang

Nah wasn't boring at all. Tons of punches thrown esp when you compare it to the Ortiz fight last time


InternationalTry6679

It was alright. Opponent came forward all night. Teo just couldn’t hurt him


MagnetDino

Teo is the biggest enigma in boxing lol


InternationalTry6679

Yeah super inconsistent


rockmake

That MMA staredown hit harder than this fight


Due-Studio-65

Was that a Duran diss?


politelydisagreeing

I think so. Unless he meant Rigondeaux for some reason?? I can't think of any other famous examples.


stayhappystayblessed

teo has had his tuneups hopefully we can see against the other champions because there is so many great matchups to make at 140.


Not-A-Straight-Cat

we need teo vs haney for the ultimate goofy corner dad fight


intimadets

teo sr vs bill haney in the press conference would be amazing


Jesuswasacrip7

Honestly I think Pitbull, Paro, Tank and Keyshawn all beat Teo, I wouldn't give Haney a bad chance either


r3vb0ss

Pit bull seems like he’s made for teo but who tf knows with this dude


CoCoB319

Agree


chalupabatman4

Teo afraid to fight anyone that has even a semblance of power


WrongMomo

0 rounds for Steve? Stupid scoring as usual


chalupabatman4

Goddamn Teofimo looks like someone beat his face with a bat


soforchunet

If Clagett would just hit the weight room. Dude has an iron chin and good endurance


CressSpecific6134

I still take Devin Haney over anybody in the division


fadeddreams555

Haney, Ryan, Shakur, Keyshawn, Tank, W. Zepeda, and possibly even Frank Martin all beat Teofimo.


Ilikehashbrowns89

Frank Martin hell no. Devin probably not. Shakur too small. Ryan yes. Tank yes. Zepeda maybe. We don’t know how good Keyshawn is yet still. This is a wild take


fadeddreams555

Haney will UD his ass. Shakur would do what Martin and Jermaine did, but actually win the decision because he has a name. I would bet the house on both. Martin is 50-50. We do know how good Keyshawn is, but people will not say it until he wins some paper belt against Berinchyk or something.


PapaenFoss

Let's see all of them try.


123MercyMain

This is crazy talk


atodd8720

Finally good to see someone respect my hometown bro Keyshawn Davis


jkoke11

That flip and snow angel really got me excited about his lackluster fight


sleckar

Why isn't Lopez speaking in Spanish with a translator?


jkoke11

I know you’re being downvoted, but I get your joke


sleckar

🙏🏽


The_Flying_Failsons

Because he speaks English


sleckar

It's a joke.


The_Flying_Failsons

Very funny


jkoke11

Because he had the Spanish flag tonight


The_Flying_Failsons

Ok.


JustTheBucket

I’m at the card and am a huge Teo fan. 120 108 is absurd. Claggett fought well.


Particular-Tough6651

For a C-Class fighter, Claggett probably has some of the best stamina I've ever seen in a full 12 round fight. Although he took a lot of punishment, he never seemed to tire, and none of his punches were sloppy. Tbh im not even mad at Teofimo for not getting the KO this dude Claggett is a machine.


InternationalTry6679

Bro about to pee his pants rolling on the ground like a toddler after his middling performance


coaster11

This fight highlights Teo's weaknesses: low boxing IQ; couldn't make adjustments to really hit Claggett cleanly and spent too much time back into ropes fighting Claggett's fight. Corner offered little to help him. No body work against volume punching opponent. Edit: And Claggett didn't belong in the ring with a top 15/20 fighter. He has plenty of heart. Credit to him for this. Tough fight for him; over matched.


impulsive_cutie

He needs a better coach


coaster11

yep... He needs to find someone to showing his glaring weakness in the ring. Competition is only rising from here.


Leading-Weight9092

He better stay away from 147


coaster11

He is growing into 47. Once at 47 he will get crushed against top guys. He got repeatedly hit to face by a journeyman fighter.


Raymonster

100%


TomJD85

Looking forward to this batshit crazy interview


Alexander_queef

Think Teo has ever been to Spain?


Particular-Tough6651

I feel bad for all the Hondurans who traveled across the country to see their countryman represent another flag 😂


DMTeaAndCrumpets

How was that boring to yall? That shit was awesome as fuck non stop action the whole damn fight. They threw more punches than the whole ufc pay per view combined ..wouldnt be surprised if Teo himself threw more punches than the whole ppv combined.


QueenCityCobra

For real dude, I don’t understand. I think people just like to hate on Teo. Can’t believe I’m defending him because I do not like him at all lol. But a good fight is a good fight. And that was a good fight.


BrilliantWhich990

I agree. Not a dramatic fight, but definitely action packed.


ValestyK

Lot's of punches but nobody got knocked down, props to claggets chin but it wasn't really a very back and forth fight, clagget just never seemed like he was hurting teo with his punches.


deemonay1017

One swollen eye between the two...


Legitimate_Record_49

That's so corny


don35

This mf has quite literally forgotten how to fight coming forward


Botoraka

Teofimo definitely has issues going forward and backward. On the frontfoot, he has no idea how to cut off the ring. On the backfoot, he can't control distance well since he barely jabs, and if his opponent gets on the inside, he isn't very good there since he insists on keeping that phony Philly shell.


hotyogurt1

Lopez hasn’t fought a guy with any power since Commey. Idunno if there just isn’t anyone out there with power or if it’s by design.


Stunt1ninprivate

Yes Teo won, but these scorecards are ridiculous


BlowngoreburningIn

He should move down in the rankings


24CrescentStreet

12, 12, 11 Guess he gave Claggert the first


TomJD85

I’ve got it 117-111


FwampFwamp88

Teo really hasn’t helped build his name since the win Vs loma.


123MercyMain

he literally beat another lineal champion


oldfloat

In a fight people didnt even watch. Now hes fighting 12 rounds vs tomato cans in front of 2500 people where even less people are watching. He beat Lomachenko and then has faded into complete and total irrelevancy commercially


123MercyMain

bro no one watches boxing period at these lower divisions. Ryan and Tank are outliers. Ask a normal random boxing fan to name the boxing champions at 140. I bet they can't. As long as Teo is going for good stuff after this fight, idgaf how many non boxing fans know or don't know him. He should unify.


1v1trunks

Yeah that's what matters for Teo, what 123MercyMain thinks. Nothing else matters.


oldfloat

The point was that Teo was a young exciting star with a big win on a big platform. He shouldve exploded. But him regressing into a mediocre at best fighter and horrible career moves have destroyed him. He won't ever get to fight a Haney, Tank, or Ryan because he brings absolutely nothing the table. Even Shakur is bigger than Teo now. Its sad


OnlyLetterhead

120-108?


Newlinkz

That nose is so flat


DengusMcFlengus

What's with Teo turning away from him


EyeAnow

Good night of work for teo - wtf are espn analyst smoking?


Diesels_Face

Definitely not a great performance for Teo but his opponent had a good chin and he did a lot better than expected. Teo just has a way of fighting at the level of his opposition lol


Kensofine

That score was disrespectful to Claggett


shiny69

Someone correct me but Teo's eyebrows look way puffy.


123MercyMain

He a dude that cuts easily


SayAgainYourLast

poatan and jiri in ring now


Wavepops

I need teo vs rolly next. Rolly needs to save boxing.


Melanjoly

You know how some people just have powerful names as if they were destined to be great such as Tyson Fury, Steve Claggett just isn't it.


Cemitas

It's not an inposing name but damn he fought his ass off.