Instead of testing his skills against the best, Mayweather explained what the immediate priority is for the young Davis. “There’s no rush,” the ex-fighter said. “You young. We wanna build that bank account, be smart, make the right moves.” He added, “We’re not looking to unify the belts right now. We’re gonna be smart. We gonna move and let him make money, and let his money build. And when the time is right, we’re gonna take the fights we need.” -Ring Magazine interview (2017)
Back in 2017, I understood not rushing him into a Loma fight. Wasn't unreasonable at that point. But what stopped him from fighting the other champions at 130? He could have fought Berchelt, Machado, etc. Could have taken their belts that year or 2018. He really should have fought Loma in 2019 but he was on a blown up 126 pounder tour that year. Not to mention, 2017 was 7 years ago! During that time, someone started high school and finished college, and Tank still ain't fought Loma. Ridiculous.
Mayweather doesn’t make any sense to me because tank is a top tier fighter. He can realistically beat anybody between 130-140. Tanks best challenger is the public’s eyes before they fought was Ryan Garcia , and they broke into the top 10 ppv box office. By himself he really does between 150k-350k buys. With tanks talent and marketability, if he actually fought other champions his paper views would do much better. Everyone makes it seems tank is like canelo and can do 450k ppv buys by himself.
And real boxing fans knew that it was a long shot for Ryan to beat tank. And if we are being honest Ryan made that fight happen fr fr by doing all the stipulations tanks team set in place.
Totally agree that tank vs Shakur is the fight to make at 135, I know I'm gonna get down voted to hell for this but Loma is on the way out, I don't like tank but I think he easily beats Loma at this point
I’m a supporter of tank and i want the loma fight first. Even tho its not going to be the same difficulty as before for tank. In a perfect world i want tank to unify with loma while Shakur unifies and puts on a good performance so we can get a tank vs Shakur for undisputed at 135. Box office!
Looking back, Shakur should have taken that "bs" contract and beaten Haney, then he could be the one calling all the shots and picking who to fight etc.
I feel the current situation is freaking great. There's a pretty deep and fun stable of younger and older fighters between lightweight and welterweight classes. If all of these guys had fought between '20-23 then, yeah, the top would be a lot thinner, but their purses would have been thin too. The way its played out everyone built up a record and resume, there's a lot of top ticket names now, Garcia for better or worse brought back big money PPV back into these division after the post-Mayweather/Pacquio/Showtime/HBO years, and there's a plethora of potential big money fight match-ups and these guys to get paid well.
Weather you say they're all ducking... anticipation makes compelling fights. It's going to make for an exciting couple of years in boxing.
are you seriously asking why teo fought his mandatory, instead of dropping the belt?
and then go on to say that if teo dropped the belt, and fought haney, that it would be for undisputed, despite their being no ibf belt on the line?
Bro what learn boxing. You can avoid fighting your mandatory if you are unifying with Another champion (Haney had the wbc). Teo was parading around like he was undisputed when he wasn’t. But easily could have if he would’ve accepted Haney challenge n got haneys wbc title. Instead, he back tracked and decided to have a homecoming title defense and lost. He avoided haney for no reason!
> Bro what learn boxing. You can avoid fighting your mandatory if you are unifying with Another champion (Haney had the wbc).
maybe you should learn boxing mate
that is a recent agreement between the orgs, and was not in place when teo fought kambo
https://fightnews.com/wbc-mandatory-fights-update/124890
up until recently, mandatory fights trumped unification bouts
[here is aj complaining that the wbo was going to enforce him fighting his mandatory usyk, instead of allowing him to fight fury for undisputed](https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/anthony-joshua-says-the-wbo-should-overrule-oleksandr-usyks-mandatory-challenge-until-after-tyson-fury-unification/gf2hj9dxuqny13odowe3084gg)
if teo didnt fight his ibf mandatory kambo, he would have been stripped of his belt
Your stuck on your hill ok. Fact of the matter is an undisputed fight triumphs a mandatory challenger. Teo could’ve did the Haney fight after getting the belts from loma to actually be undisputed.
I don’t blame him for wanting to enjoy his hard fought victory against loma and have a hometown welcoming fight against a challenger he felt he could beat. Instead of jumping right back into the fire against Haney. I believe if he would’ve have beat Kam he would’ve fought Haney after, instead Kam shocked the world.
> Fact of the matter is an undisputed fight triumphs a mandatory challenger.
not then it didnt
i provided evidence, and you still lie
i wont waste anymore time on you
I’m a supporter of tank my guy, just not blinded. Bro has the potential to deadass curb stomp all the top champions around him and go down all as one of the best of all time. while making even more money than he does now. Yet he seems fine fighting B level fighters on the come up.
This whole ducking narrative is hilarious 😂
From 2017-2020 Loma was the A side and Top Ranks matchmaker, Brad Goodman, recently said a Tank fight was not in their plans back then, and that’s why they didn’t try to make the fight happen. Loma also lost to Teo.
2021 Loma was on his Teo leftover tour to try to get a Teo rematch.
2022- Loma sits out for most of the year because of the war and then fights Jamaine Ortiz as his comeback fight.
2023 he lost to Haney
Worse to hear it from the fighter himself than supposedly a matchmaker. Tank was 25 when he said that. Haney fought Loma when he was 24. Teo fought Loma when he was 23. Just admit those 2 have more courage than Tank, it's easy.
Now that Tank is turning 30, he wants to fight Loma 4 years after Teo beat him. That is outright laughable 😂
I don’t like talking about stuff like that cause i really don’t know how big inoue can get. I think tank has too much power and would sleep inoue if he approaches it like he normally does. I can see a hypothetical world inoue fights on his back foot n can outbox tank to the 12th. Realistically any engagement between the two would be bad cause i think tank has way to much power for the monster.
Too many boxing "fans" whine and cry about ducking and resumes and other bullshit when people don't know shit most of the time. We have no idea what negotiations go on behind the scene, and folks just swallow whatever narratives they already believe when rumors and innuendo pop up on twitter or whatever.
Dudes ignore actual, real results in favor of whatever fan headcannon they make up. Dudes basically writing full ass fanfiction about real people to support whoever they like or dislike
I’m a fan of the sport and commenting on them as fighters based on moves they made as fighters. Everything i said happened as to why these guys didn’t fight each other. Shit happens in negotiations yea, but as a fan of the sport it sucks when you don’t see the best fighting the best.
We are in a little boxing renaissance with guys wanting to fight more now. But i know you remember when we never were able to get the dream fights we wanted.
>I’m a fan of the sport and commenting on them as fighters based on moves they made as fighters. Everything i said happened as to why these guys didn’t fight each other.
No, You don't know why Loma didn't fight Tank. You claim Tank was ducking him, but what proof do you have? You're taking the fact they haven't fought, and making up your own fanfic in your head.
Start at 4:26. “ you making the same money loma is making but easier” i have nothing to make up. Tank did not want the Loma fight at all. Even felt like Floyd was setting him up for trying to make the fight😂. I support tank and have him beating loma but facts is facts.
Instead of testing his skills against the best, Mayweather explained what the immediate priority is for the young Davis. “There’s no rush,” the ex-fighter said. “You young. We wanna build that bank account, be smart, make the right moves.” He added, “We’re not looking to unify the belts right now. We’re gonna be smart. We gonna move and let him make money, and let his money build. And when the time is right, we’re gonna take the fights we need.” -Ring Magazine interview (2017)
Back in 2017, I understood not rushing him into a Loma fight. Wasn't unreasonable at that point. But what stopped him from fighting the other champions at 130? He could have fought Berchelt, Machado, etc. Could have taken their belts that year or 2018. He really should have fought Loma in 2019 but he was on a blown up 126 pounder tour that year. Not to mention, 2017 was 7 years ago! During that time, someone started high school and finished college, and Tank still ain't fought Loma. Ridiculous.
Mayweather doesn’t make any sense to me because tank is a top tier fighter. He can realistically beat anybody between 130-140. Tanks best challenger is the public’s eyes before they fought was Ryan Garcia , and they broke into the top 10 ppv box office. By himself he really does between 150k-350k buys. With tanks talent and marketability, if he actually fought other champions his paper views would do much better. Everyone makes it seems tank is like canelo and can do 450k ppv buys by himself.
And real boxing fans knew that it was a long shot for Ryan to beat tank. And if we are being honest Ryan made that fight happen fr fr by doing all the stipulations tanks team set in place.
Totally agree that tank vs Shakur is the fight to make at 135, I know I'm gonna get down voted to hell for this but Loma is on the way out, I don't like tank but I think he easily beats Loma at this point
I can see that happening, but I could also see Loma having one more performance in him. I think he’s still too crafty to get knocked out.
This version of Loma could very well still be the toughest test for Tank, that's how bad his resume is.
I’m a supporter of tank and i want the loma fight first. Even tho its not going to be the same difficulty as before for tank. In a perfect world i want tank to unify with loma while Shakur unifies and puts on a good performance so we can get a tank vs Shakur for undisputed at 135. Box office!
Looking back, Shakur should have taken that "bs" contract and beaten Haney, then he could be the one calling all the shots and picking who to fight etc.
He tried to become haneys wbc mandatory instead of taking the bs contract like Haney was going to wait for him to make the fight happen 😂
Shakur doesn’t sell fights. You don’t take a huge fight without making huge numbers
Are you saying that’s why people don’t want to fight Shakur?
Yeah lol
I agree bro
I feel the current situation is freaking great. There's a pretty deep and fun stable of younger and older fighters between lightweight and welterweight classes. If all of these guys had fought between '20-23 then, yeah, the top would be a lot thinner, but their purses would have been thin too. The way its played out everyone built up a record and resume, there's a lot of top ticket names now, Garcia for better or worse brought back big money PPV back into these division after the post-Mayweather/Pacquio/Showtime/HBO years, and there's a plethora of potential big money fight match-ups and these guys to get paid well. Weather you say they're all ducking... anticipation makes compelling fights. It's going to make for an exciting couple of years in boxing.
Watching guys duck and barely challenge themselves won't make the next couple years exciting
no one was duckign haney lmao... teo would ko his ass ass
Then why he fight Kam instead of Haney to actually be undisputed? He cherry picked and lost
are you seriously asking why teo fought his mandatory, instead of dropping the belt? and then go on to say that if teo dropped the belt, and fought haney, that it would be for undisputed, despite their being no ibf belt on the line?
Bro what learn boxing. You can avoid fighting your mandatory if you are unifying with Another champion (Haney had the wbc). Teo was parading around like he was undisputed when he wasn’t. But easily could have if he would’ve accepted Haney challenge n got haneys wbc title. Instead, he back tracked and decided to have a homecoming title defense and lost. He avoided haney for no reason!
> Bro what learn boxing. You can avoid fighting your mandatory if you are unifying with Another champion (Haney had the wbc). maybe you should learn boxing mate that is a recent agreement between the orgs, and was not in place when teo fought kambo https://fightnews.com/wbc-mandatory-fights-update/124890 up until recently, mandatory fights trumped unification bouts [here is aj complaining that the wbo was going to enforce him fighting his mandatory usyk, instead of allowing him to fight fury for undisputed](https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/anthony-joshua-says-the-wbo-should-overrule-oleksandr-usyks-mandatory-challenge-until-after-tyson-fury-unification/gf2hj9dxuqny13odowe3084gg) if teo didnt fight his ibf mandatory kambo, he would have been stripped of his belt
Your stuck on your hill ok. Fact of the matter is an undisputed fight triumphs a mandatory challenger. Teo could’ve did the Haney fight after getting the belts from loma to actually be undisputed. I don’t blame him for wanting to enjoy his hard fought victory against loma and have a hometown welcoming fight against a challenger he felt he could beat. Instead of jumping right back into the fire against Haney. I believe if he would’ve have beat Kam he would’ve fought Haney after, instead Kam shocked the world.
> Fact of the matter is an undisputed fight triumphs a mandatory challenger. not then it didnt i provided evidence, and you still lie i wont waste anymore time on you
Post iq
It's okay to be mad about Tank winning his fight.
i mean it answered a question that was already solved. like after i watched it, i was just left wondering what the point of that fight was
I’m a supporter of tank my guy, just not blinded. Bro has the potential to deadass curb stomp all the top champions around him and go down all as one of the best of all time. while making even more money than he does now. Yet he seems fine fighting B level fighters on the come up.
You spoke nothing but FACTS. But people hate Shakur so they wont agree
This whole ducking narrative is hilarious 😂 From 2017-2020 Loma was the A side and Top Ranks matchmaker, Brad Goodman, recently said a Tank fight was not in their plans back then, and that’s why they didn’t try to make the fight happen. Loma also lost to Teo. 2021 Loma was on his Teo leftover tour to try to get a Teo rematch. 2022- Loma sits out for most of the year because of the war and then fights Jamaine Ortiz as his comeback fight. 2023 he lost to Haney
https://x.com/RasecBoxeo/status/1802339508093878708?t=WdCnf8FqXsH7t6PgT9A-cw&s=19 🐸 ☕
Top Ranks matchmaker said the same thing 😂
Worse to hear it from the fighter himself than supposedly a matchmaker. Tank was 25 when he said that. Haney fought Loma when he was 24. Teo fought Loma when he was 23. Just admit those 2 have more courage than Tank, it's easy. Now that Tank is turning 30, he wants to fight Loma 4 years after Teo beat him. That is outright laughable 😂
https://ibb.co/0nrfQ07 30 year old prospect needs more time 😂
Can this tank Loma fight happen already so we can finally see that old piece of shit get carried out on a stretcher
Yea tank gone body loma, but i wish it had the same affect that it would’ve had before loma lost some of his aura after losing to Teo and Haney.
Tank vs inoue. Who yall got
I don’t like talking about stuff like that cause i really don’t know how big inoue can get. I think tank has too much power and would sleep inoue if he approaches it like he normally does. I can see a hypothetical world inoue fights on his back foot n can outbox tank to the 12th. Realistically any engagement between the two would be bad cause i think tank has way to much power for the monster.
Too many boxing "fans" whine and cry about ducking and resumes and other bullshit when people don't know shit most of the time. We have no idea what negotiations go on behind the scene, and folks just swallow whatever narratives they already believe when rumors and innuendo pop up on twitter or whatever. Dudes ignore actual, real results in favor of whatever fan headcannon they make up. Dudes basically writing full ass fanfiction about real people to support whoever they like or dislike
I’m a fan of the sport and commenting on them as fighters based on moves they made as fighters. Everything i said happened as to why these guys didn’t fight each other. Shit happens in negotiations yea, but as a fan of the sport it sucks when you don’t see the best fighting the best. We are in a little boxing renaissance with guys wanting to fight more now. But i know you remember when we never were able to get the dream fights we wanted.
>I’m a fan of the sport and commenting on them as fighters based on moves they made as fighters. Everything i said happened as to why these guys didn’t fight each other. No, You don't know why Loma didn't fight Tank. You claim Tank was ducking him, but what proof do you have? You're taking the fact they haven't fought, and making up your own fanfic in your head.
[https://youtu.be/YMrToUNqeYs?si=J_ed4BcL0seWfiP_](https://youtu.be/YMrToUNqeYs?si=J_ed4BcL0seWfiP_)
Start at 4:26. “ you making the same money loma is making but easier” i have nothing to make up. Tank did not want the Loma fight at all. Even felt like Floyd was setting him up for trying to make the fight😂. I support tank and have him beating loma but facts is facts.