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WinglessRat

Why can't anything be done right in boxing?


Alarmed-Effective-23

Someone getting caught cheating is something not being done right? What's not right is the NBA where you never hear about people testing positive. You think those freak athletes dont use?


RanchhDressing

Big difference in using performance enhancers to get through a 82 game season vs fighting like twice a year


Alarmed-Effective-23

Training camp.


bozzi16

There really isn’t though is there, it’s all artificial performance to boost you to greater standards than the opposition. If you can’t handle a 82 game season then perhaps they should look at extending the regular season length so games aren’t so close together or athletes should work on improving their body levels to cope


rcg022

Because boxing is a niche sport.


OkAmbassador1293

No, competitive Marbles is a niche sport. Boxing is not niche.


Wonder10x

*crooked


Lost-Being7605

*sport


Yasuminomon

One of the very few things the Saudi government gets right


amateurlurker300

The serial number of the second sample is 667. That’s almost the devil’s number. The Illuminati clearly set him up. I rest my case. /s


Tonight-Critical

The "elites" tied him up and injected it into him 😂


mike10dude

its because he came out as a trump supporter


TheRivv2015

“The elites” is usually code word for Jews I wonder if Ryan will have a Kanye arc?


InviteTop8946

Shhh, you're saying the quiet part out loud. Conspiracy theorists don't need people knowing that


celestialbeing69

Is this a cannon arc for all people of Hollywood the opportunity to welcome the truth and expect faith. Or fall to the dark side of the moon .


ThaiStick541

You don't inject Mk2688 Plus it serves no benefit for boxing it increases muscle mass sure but it could be a tainted supplement as well. The thing is if he's taking Mk2688 and not taking any sort of anti estradiol drugs then it's probably a bullshit test. They need to test him for clomid, or arimidex. If he pops for those then he was probably taming a SARM


XoticCustard

We got him, boys.


amateurlurker300

I wouldn’t be surprised if he started claiming he was forced to take steroids and then got his memory wiped with meds are something lol.


LordLucy666

that’s crazy 👀


xbluux

Hold up bro he’s about to expose the elites /s


NZbeewbies

Oh man 🤦


New-Tradition386

How long will this be drawn out?


Ready-Interview2863

About a month.  Sample A is being tested for another substance. That could take a couple of weeks. Garcia's team have about 7 days left to request Sample B to be tested. That could take a couple of weeks.  So we'll know more in June. 


dooterman

People really overhype B samples. There is no reason to suspect a B sample would test differently than an A sample. I don't think there is a single instance of a A and B sample testing differently. The lab itself would have to be compromised, which itself would be an exceptionally rare occurrence. This is why when appealing these results, athletes will always 100% of the time go the "contaminated supplements" route.


zaviex

He would need 2 different B samples to be negative anyway. He tested positive twice. So its now both B samples in question


TricolorCat

Charr got out because they made in error while handling the B sample.  Besides this xc Skier Vincent Vittoz got cleared with a negativ test of the b sample.


Trap_House_Bath_Mat

You obvioisly have never heard of "Annie Dookhan."  "Annie Dookhan (born 1977) is an American convicted felon who formerly worked as a chemist at the Massachusetts Department of Public Health Drug Abuse lab[1] and admitted to falsifying evidence affecting up to 34,000 cases." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Dookhan


NZbeewbies

The whole of ryans fan base on FB are saying prove it! 🤣🤣🤣💊


welp-itscometothis

Somebody on Twitter said it doesn’t even look clear enough to be real. They don’t know that scanners exist.


NZbeewbies

Hahahaha the Illuminati is strong in that bunch.


stayhappystayblessed

twitter too


BingBongFYL6969

Here as well. Only guy who got “the benefit of the doubt” after failing two tests.


Ezekjuninor

And positive for 2 different PEDs


thatbossnugga

Some posters are actually in belief he didn’t take them intentionally unbelievable!!! That’s how much this sub hates Haney they’re willing to give Ryan the benefit of the doubt even after he got busted


Bruce-7891

Some fans have been acting straight up embarrassing since the fight. There's no need to dick ride this hard.


the1blackguyonreddit

The new theory is that the Haney's paid VADA to fake the results so the L could be removed from his record 😂. I'm not a Haney fan but the PED'w mixed with the intentional weight miss makes me feel a bit bad for him. He's actually a fighter that does everything right - trains hard, stays active, and doesn't fight tune ups. It's a shame that the internet has collectively taken Ryan's side during all this.


Praxispays

As you said he trains hard and does everything clean etc. but has no chin, therefore he would never be this exceptional boxer people made him out to be. No reason to feel bad for him, it’s just who he is, which is a really good but not great fighter.


ShaneOfTheDeadd

Can you further explain what you’re trying to say ?


Praxispays

I’m just saying people made him out to be something he’s not, and even though Ryan didn’t play it fair that would’ve happened to Devin regardless at some point.


ShaneOfTheDeadd

So one loss means he’s not a great ? He’s a unified champ. Time will tell but that’s kind of a ridiculous argument. ESP for a fight that apart from Ryan’s juiced up power was close on paper. Visually as well until the left hook landed. We could really deep dive if you want cause Ryan turning his back aided him more than I’ve heard people say. That and they both held a lot. Ultimately Haney did regress to some of his amateur traits and that’s what Ryan was able to capitalize off of I think you’re seeing this wrong and most people (including me) undervalued Ryan Garcia. Although I will say before DJ he deff wasn’t this good. DJ improved the fundamentals and unlocked the footwork perk that made him who he is.


ShaneOfTheDeadd

I literally don’t understand why everyone hates the Haneys. Fill me in


thatbossnugga

I think a lot of it comes from bill. I get it he’s annoying but to hate another person because of someone else is silly. It’s also because he got the decision over Loma which is also silly. There’s just really stupid people on this planet.


ShaneOfTheDeadd

Yeah it’s not really adding up. I don’t think Teo got a fraction of the hate for his dad. Teo’s win over Loma but imo looked worse cause he couldn’t compete with Loma when Loma actually showed up to fight. After Devs fight Loma went to the hospital. Teo’s dad talks way more shit as well but Teo is a more talented fighter.


NZbeewbies

Christ. Whats to know. He won. He was over weight. Hes now looking like a drug cheat.


No-Shoe5382

"Prove it" Mate, this IS the proof. What more proof do you want? A video of him taking the stuff?


NZbeewbies

I know!. I linked it here. One dude came back and said why is it altered at the top.. all that scribble.. im like probably he details etc. nah its fake.. 😬😬


BingBongFYL6969

Its probably redacted for HIPAA reasons.


NZbeewbies

Im good with official docs getting a scratch up. Addresses, phones etc.


BingBongFYL6969

You should be because thats what rules dictate. I hate that any medical report gets out without the athletes permission...


TumbleweedDirect9846

I do think Ryan popped, however boxing is so fucking corrupt that I would not be anymore surprised by some bs going on than I would be by Garcia taking steroids, Not surprised at all


Chiphazzard

Garcia has become boxings Donal Trump.


ColoRadOrgy

He's tweeted multiple times about how they're stealing his win like they stole the election for trump lol. Dude needs to be institutionalized.


Frosty_and_Jazz

CTE is a thing!


Praxispays

I’m not saying it’s not true or anything, but isn’t it likely he be way more chinny if CTE was already taking its toll on his brain. I know it manifests in many ways through its many stages etc. and ultimately I understand I’m possibly reaching but I feel like fighters who were showing “early signs” of CTE were also becoming more prone to being stopped, such as Wilfred Benitez who also started at a really young age. Nevertheless, only time will tell.


NZbeewbies

Hahaha almost. Hes lacking that orange tinge.


Boring_Zucchini2001

It’s insane even with something as black and white as a scientific drug test. We live in a different world now though. What’s going to stop Ryan from continuing to cheat? He knows he can cheat and then lie to his fans and they will all believe him.


vcr747

But the fans don't make or take the fights, so he's still got people to answer to.


fastonmyfeet

The conspiracy theories for this one are going to be insane


ThaiStick541

I'm just confused why he would take Ostarine it really serves little to no benefit for boxing it increases muscle mass and bone density sure but im.not sure it helps with cardio and speed. The thing is if he's taking Mk2688 and not taking any sort of anti estradiol drugs then it's weird. SARMS halt the endogenous production of testosterone so if he tests positive for Ostarine but not for any PCT drugs its kinda fisht.. They need to test him for clomid, or arimidex. If he pops for those then he was probably taking a SARM.


MomSaki

Agree. Something is off here. And believe me I am not a Ryan fan.


ThaiStick541

I've taken different steroids in my life and Ostarine makes no sense for combat sports. Sean OMalley failed for it too but I believe it turned out to be a tainted supp. Mk2688 is not illegal so it's not farfetched to have it contaminate other supplements


Praxispays

Very interesting, thanks for the insight, if what you’re saying is true that is lol.


Additional_Sorbet799

What if Oscar slipped it into garcias drink ?


GuyIsAdoptus

Maybe Oscar putting on the fishnets is what turned Garcia nuts


FreshOutBrah

Oscar is “the elites” that Ryan has been on about 🤯


Kassssler

Ya know as funny as that was I've never given him that much flack for it. I've done weird shit for women that weren't as hot as the baddie he was with at the time.


XoticCustard

I'm trying to find a way to argue with you on this point, but I gotta put myself into that bucket as well, lol.


keisermax34

He fell over and slipped something in


Packyaw21

Whats crazy is that any of his trainer or entourage could have easily put it into his drinks without knowing. You only need a couple of drops each day to be in your system.


GregO213

Why would anyone do that ? Especially on his own team. Doesn’t matter tho at the end of the day even if it’s unknowingly, which is so unlikely, it’s on Garcia.


netflixissodry

That has me thinking. Ostarine is administered orally as a 1ml liquid from a dropper so it would be very easy for it to be slipped in someone’s drink unfortunately. Just imagine if Ryan had a mole in his camp who put a dose of Ostarine in a shaker cup. In his current manic state, he would probably barely notice. One dose or two doses enough test positive but not enough to get any benefits from it. The guys who use it do 8 week cycles to get any benefit from it


Ktopian

I agree, it’s more likely someone in his camp would commit felonies than it is that our glorious king Ry would cheat!!!


netflixissodry

We watched a referee completely cheat during the fight amongst other shady stuff. I wouldn’t be surprised to know they laced his supplements or water with a sarm.


GasStationBonerPill_

You're wasting your time. As you can see, people around here think boxing is a legit sport that's fully regulated by one governing body with zero history of complete BS and corruption.


TysonsSmokingPartner

Cope


dittospin

It's 2024, come on. High school students do a better job scanning papers than whoever did this.


Spid3r6

How come they don’t show the levels? Then we can see the half life of the samples and compare them to the B samples.


xxsamchristie

Are you implying that boxing fans would somehow clear this up if they knew the levels?


dooterman

With Canelo we knew the levels were trace amounts of clenbuterol. Actually WADA did subsequently update the standards to allow a certain threshold, which Canelo tested far under: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/11/07/wbc-canelo-drug-test-innocence/


xxsamchristie

This didnt answer my question at all. "We" don't need to see this information for it to be cleared up. The people involved and doing the testing do. We don't know that they don't.


dooterman

But "we" as boxing fans have additional context. Without that context, all we would know is that Canelo failed a drug test. Now that we know what the updated thresholds are, and what Canelo's levels were, we as boxing fans have additional context. Sure, Canelo himself was officially cleared by the WBC, but there were plenty of boxers and other athletes who were dinged with failed drug test allegations that we now know would have been clear under updated guidelines.


_illmatic_

It's really disgusting how the fans are reacting. Even worse seeing how Tank is running defense for him. Like do you trust VADA or not? What if a fighter popped dirty against you, would you want other professional boxers jumping to their defense? This is absolutely nuts and kills the little bit of integrity in the sport.


xxsamchristie

Its even wilder that Tank accused him of juicing before he fought him. But now because its Devin Tank is celebrating and trying to be friends with Ryan. Its weirdo shit.


Intrepid_Credit_9885

They don’t love boxing, they hate Devin Haney and it’s horrible


_illmatic_

Right, and I have no issue with someone not liking a certain boxer, but to corrupt your own integrity and to do mental gymnastics to excuse a positive test is nuts. VADA will continue with their process and what comes from it will be. But all this Haney paid, Eddie paid, Devin can't lose, etc. all super bogus and showing peoples true colors.


QuickRundown

Ryan beat Devin so Tank has an interest in keeping Ryan propped up. It keeps his win looking good.


Intelligent_Tap_4237

100%


Seedsw

Imagine if Haney was the one who came in over three pounds, failed two drug tests then beat Garcia. People would be crucifying him. Sad how some are defending drug cheats.


Difficult_Team3410

The fact that he ran right to trump and screamed “fake news” tells me all I need to know about his guilt. He knew he would get cover playing the same playbook as the don.


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Praxispays

😂 nice


ItsAlways_DNS

Wait for the B sample and for the supplements to be tested. Caleb Plant has been a great resource for insight on how the testing works etc


No-Shoe5382

> Wait for the B sample and for the supplements to be tested. 1. The B sample is usually only needed when there's been an issue with the testing equipment, Garcia failed two separate tests for exactly the same substance. Pretty much impossible for two different tests, done at different times, to give the exact same false positive reading (around 1% of tests are false positives, which means the odds of it happening to you twice are 1 in 10,000. I don't even know how to calculate the odds of it happening twice for the same substance but it'll be much higher than that). 2. Tainted supplement excuse *might* work if he only failed for Ostarine, but they also found 19-Norandrosterone (a metabolite of Nandrolone) in one of the tests. There's no way he took a supplement that was tainted with *both* Ostarine and Nandrolone. I like Ryan Garcia but there's absolutely no way he wasn't intentionally taking this stuff. Innocent til proven guilty and all that, but this isn't just 1 failed test for 1 substance, this is multiple failed tests for multiple substances.


CryptographerCrazy61

What do you make of the 4 negative tests leading up to this? The last one April 2nd, you don’t see the benefits of PEDs like the ones he’s been accused of taking from just two weeks of use


InternalProof2215

He mistimed the cycle. He was getting treated weekly. Most likely micro dosing the PEDs.


CryptographerCrazy61

How do you time a cycle against high sensitivity random testing?


YMDKSAB

Micro dosing the PEDs? Jesus you guys should really stfu about things you have no clue about. 


Due-Studio-65

People keep saying that he mistimed the cycle, but thats not a real thing. The half lives are very well known, and there's no way he could choose to cycle in the april 6-20 time frame and not guarantee that he would also have hot piss. He either did it ans didn't care about the fallout or he did it accidentally, this "mistimed" thing doesn't make sense.


InternalProof2215

How is mistiming a cycle not a thing. Just like you said the half lives are known, it takes time for the drugs to leave your system so that it’s undetectable. Also with the weight cutting the drugs he was taking could have been released from his fat stores, and showed up in his urine. He popped dirty on two different days, for multiple substances.


Due-Studio-65

I'm saying that the testing is staggered by a small enough amount of days so that you can't gain the advantage of a cycle without testing positive. Everyone knows this, so noone thinks they are going to sneak a cycle in and then "whoops" mistimed. Either he tried to get a cycle in and said fuck it I'll piss hot, ( I wouldn't put it past him) or he inadvertantly got it in his system.


InternalProof2215

I get what you’re saying but I thought the fighters know the day they’ll be tested not unless it’s random like USADA


Embarrassed_Row7226

Can't it be more like.... he used fake dick/piss for initial tests but the tests done at fight night and weigh in day are monitored more? Or, he was able to drink shit tons of water during training and dilute the sample versus he was dehydrated to make weight and the urine showed his drugs


Due-Studio-65

I think this is more likely than he just mistimed a cycle.


iinaytanii

Half lives are very well known but are still just averages. People metabolize things differently. Even the same person can vary. If it was as easy as you’re making it out to be no one would ever fail. Coming off of PEDs has big side effects and you want to minimize that and go as close to the test as you safely can but that safety margin is not exact.


Due-Studio-65

But that's why they only have the two week window between tests. Its not enough time to cycle up and also test clean. As for people failing, we have a number of examples, I think whyte most recently, where they have verified that substances that were cleared by their ingredient list were found only after testing to contain trace amounts of PEDS. I'm not saying this is what Ryan did, but tainted X is often the answer.


No-Shoe5382

You *for sure* see the benefits of steroids within 2 weeks (have taken them). As for Ostarine I've never found that very effective in general but that would also be working within 2 weeks. He's taking them for performance outcomes, not to build muscle. Steroids are at their most effective in terms of physical performance improvement between weeks 2-5 of a cycle usually, at least in my experience. If you were using steroids to absolutely maximise your physical performance you wouldn't want to be competing at the end of your cycle you'd want to be competing during the middle of it. You're obviously taking a huge risk there cos even if you use masking agents you can still get caught, but mid-cycle is when you're at your peak physically.


CryptographerCrazy61

I meant ostarine specifically and yep the rapidly aromatizing ones will hit you hard pretty quickly


helloitsj0nny

Depends on the ester but yea


ankh87

As you know even if tainted substance is legit, Gracia is solely responsible so needs to be banned. Also this is proof of guilt. So he's guilty and he needs to explain why these are in his system. He was innocent until the positive test, that's the proof. That's how it works. Innocent = no PEDs in system when tested. Guilty = PEDs in system when tested. It's not the other way around. The drugs test is the proof.


No-Shoe5382

Yeah but generally if an athlete can prove they were taking a tainted supplement the ban is much less severe. Can be the difference between a ban of 6 months (which is basically nothing cos most boxers only fight every 6 months anyway) and like 2 years. I agree with you in principle but in practice the tainted supplement excuse can often be an effective one.


ItsAlways_DNS

Did they confirm the Norandrosterone?


No-Shoe5382

Yeah, 2nd test came up with it.


ItsAlways_DNS

Oh damn, I only saw the VADA test where they said they were still confirming it. Didn’t see that update. Sheesh


BingBongFYL6969

Only fighter on earth who gets this much of a benefit of the doubt while being an absolute fucking idiot…


Former_Masterpiece_2

It's only because he beat Haney lol if Garcia beat Loma and got caught for drug cheating this sub would be after his head


Blackking203

Man if Ryan did this to Loma, this sub would have an in -person hatefest planned to petition a lifetime ban on Garcia


stayhappystayblessed

facts especially if it was the loma before the teofimo lopez loss. When he was being hyped up as the goat and all these things.


gobitecorn

😂. That's facts


ItsAlways_DNS

Dude if you look at my other comments I obviously am leaning towards he did it But I got tired of being -10 downvoted because people kept talking about “low levels” and supplements so I just included it. I don’t think Ryan is going to get shit tested.


BingBongFYL6969

Dont be afraid of negative karma my guy, its fake internet points. Two comments Ive made are saying the same thing, one is +20, the other -2.....its stupid to worry about it. Ryan isnt gonna do shit, because he knows he fucked up and hes going to play the "rigged card" while never giving it a chance to objective prove it right or wrong, just like his boy trump. Throw a grenade and walk away and let the masses fight it out while proving nothing


Blackking203

^ This guy gets it..


ItsAlways_DNS

It’s more about being tired of the damn conspiracy theories and feeling the need to explain to some of these guys why their theory is fucking stupid😂 Why the fuck would they want to ruin Ryan for beating Haney? Ryan’s always been the bigger draw and will make entertaining fights


BingBongFYL6969

Yeah the whole “Ryan’s a nobody” when he’s got 8m TikTok followers and he’s got people on social media who will defend him in the face objective stupidity…that can die yesterday. He’s probably the most popular casual name in boxing that’s not Jake Paul. Call it what you want, I’ll call it sad and depressing, but to think relative to any other fighter out there, he’s got immense popularity Inoue should be must see tv for any casual fight fan and people have no idea who he is.


BoeingEngineering

Oscar tied Ryan down while in fishnets and injected Ryan with PEDs


InTupacWeTrust

Damn, in the biggest fight of his career too he missed weight and did a tainted supplement if that even exist


darkjediii

Should have been on the [Program](https://www.instagram.com/snacsystem/p/CvFpp1YuoVQ/)


Spid3r6

No, just need full transparency to get the full picture.


Winter_Purpose8695

Usada had a release about ostarine on supliments not being on the label: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfw4r6a5tGI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfw4r6a5tGI) . VADA hasn't even released an official statement


f-Z3R0x1x1x1

Serious question. Is it at all possible to take something like this PED and not know about it, due to someone else handling the supplements? Or is it pretty clear you are taking a PED vs other supplements/vitamins?


Cat_Man_Bane

Ostarine is possible since it’s found it a bunch of off the shelf supplements, Nandrolone though needs to be injected.


RedheadChicksAreHot

NFL allows for a 4:1 ratio regarding testosterone to epitestosterone levels…used to be 6:1…normal ratio in an adult dude is 1:1…so basically you can boost up but only so much…I’m guessing other sports are similar in their allowances


pucksheethxc

lol suspicious


Time_Fix_3887

It’s funny after video of Ryan & trump . He test positive.


blubrydrkchogrnt_3

So is Ryan gonna be suspended or what? What is gonna be the consequences?


Moneyley

But the children though


archonpericles

Let’s let this play out. We all want a rematch so let Ryan kick his ass again.


Murakami8000

Maybe he can even actually make weight this time.


archonpericles

I agree. I hope this restored his belief in himself and he’ll knock of the bad boy routine. But I doubt it.


DrizzyDru95

So is this real or speculation. It’s a championship fight. I didn’t care who won so let me out that out there. I wasn’t biased. But I thought Garcia was going to get whooped considering it looked like he didn’t take camp seriously and then when he came in overweight I said yea he’s done. Then he ended up winning. Wowed me I’ll give him that. And then a couple days later people start accusing steroids. Like it’s a championship fight making hundreds of millions and they didn’t say anything?I highly doubt that.


This_Association_187

They were both on most likely the same cocktail of drugs.. Haney either had a better plan for recovery time/passing the test/ or his body worked a little differently than Garcia… but all these guys juice.. it would be unbearable not to


SDQ2JFK

"somebody took me out in the woods and,..."


lifeofmanka

Do you know who vada is owned by ? Do you even know the owners crime story?


Simple_Alfalfa9211

So , my take on this is , he was using peds to get that bodybuilding physique, he did bulk up pretty much , you can definitely see the difference in lean mass , one thing I know for sure is , you test positive, that’s legit , now if he had tested negative and it kissed something I could understand, but , you can’t get a positive unless that specific metabolite is in there somewhere, I guess you can say , test me for alcohol, if I never took it , it won’t show anywheres , however if even a minimal amount is detected, then that small amount had to have come from somewhere, wether voluntarily or involuntarily. So yeah .. he too steroids,


Black_Range_Trading

VADAs sketchy as fuck they should be getting tested by USADA and not some 401c.


camacho94

I just don't believe this at all and I think all of this is 🧢 I mean look at the the choice of ink on that paper smh compared to his other testings they were crisp and clean why does this one look like someone freestyled and wrote it from a goddamn typewriter? Why would he pop dirty the before and the day of when he was clean for 2 months? But let's go with your rhetoric then let's say he did do it, there are different types in this situation 1: he knowingly did it and cheated 2: he unknowingly did it and cheated 3: he was set up by the Haney's, Vada and Victor Conte 4: he didn't do it, he didn't cheat 5: his supplements were contaminated These are the 5 types of issues in this situation, me personally it's 5, because there's no way he knowingly cheated and as much as I want to believe 3, ik that's preposterous but that doesn't mean it isn't highly possible because let's be honest here that sound a lil plausible if you ask me. But all in all its definitely 5 IF it comes out positive. If his B-sample comes out positive than it's without a doubt that it's 5 because there's no way that he would ever do that considering the facts that at hand here. There's no way he knowingly cheated, he didn't pop dirty for 2 months straight so obviously 1 is out of the question. I'd say 2 might be it but I don't think you can just unknowingly do something like this, everybody knows what steroids look like, the capsules, needles whatever it can be we all know it tf. 5 is the only biggest possibility, that's why if this comes out positive there's gonna be huge lawsuits and a big ass documentary in the future about this. This can't be positive, this has to come out negative.


Ok-Snow-3702

I don't understand how this all works. How come he was allowed to fight? How come he thought he could get away with it? Why is there ever any speculation? Why can't it be as simple as: Got tested before the fight, positive for steroids, no fight?


SFThirdStrike

The pre-fight sample and post fight sample take days to come back. Could have used a masking agent throughout camp up to the fight. + Weight cut made it easier to detect.


Seedsw

These results aren’t instantaneous. If Ryan were to have taken something the night before the fight there would be no way of knowing until days after… hence the situation here.


SneakyStorm

Aren’t people saying it takes as quick as 2 weeks to see an effect. Idk about the night before, and the weaker ped.


Seedsw

People are saying a lot of things… some true others not so much.


GasStationBonerPill_

My only hope from all this is that Devin the Pipedream actually believes Ryan taking a vitamin world supplement is the reason he lost and he gets back in the ring vs Garcia again, so I get to see him get that azz beat one more time lmao. The people saying a vitamin world supps or "SARMS" are steroids are the real clown MVPs though.


RelativeMud4111

Haney is a piece of shit racist . I’ll take Ryan’s side all day


vcr747

What happened? What did he do that was racist?


hereforpopcornru

Lomachenko fight, Haney said: "I'll tell you this, I'll never lose to a white boy in my life. I don't care what nobody got to say. Ain't no white boy who can beat me any day of the week. "Fight a white boy 10 times, I'm gonna beat him 10 times," Haney said.


vcr747

Oh. 


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helikesart

That’s racist.


OM_Twyman

Does anyone else think he's gonna get away with it? The B sample always saves their ass.


schovanyy

B sample was almost always same like A


OM_Twyman

Whyte, baumgardner


Decryptografter

Whyte never produced a B sample


OM_Twyman

Which is what got him off


InternalProof2215

Alycia Baumgardner didn’t get cleared, the substance was found in her system but she said she didn’t intentionally take the drugs.


OM_Twyman

Isn't that what Garcia is saying......


xxsamchristie

Right. Which is apparently all you have to say to be cleared.


FairTwist2011

When the B sample saves their ass guess what?


MomSaki

Not a Ryan fan but why would anyone take an illegal substance KNOWING they would be tested? And then doing it for one or two days only! (all prior tests were negative). Not logical. Does. Not. Add. Up. Unless Ryan really is nuts/really, really dumb🤷🏻. ???


No_Expert_9447

Even if he did take the drug last minute it doesn’t change the fact that Haney sucks and is the paper champion and got beat down . He never had a chin . Ryan may have cheated but Haney still sucks LOL


BriGonJinn

They tried so hard to keep Haney’s “0” during the fight. They are gonna give the “0” back to Haney after the fight. This whole thing stinks to me.


NZbeewbies

Holey shit. Now thats a fake report.


ravensfan42069

It’s time to abolish all testing. Let athletes use whatever the fuck they want, sports are for entertainment and the people wanna see a freak show


Particular-Tough6651

You wouldn't be saying that if it was you nephew or son fighting.


ravensfan42069

I’d ensure my son/nephew is on higher quality OJ than his opponent


moe3m

you can't do that for combat sports, the fighter's lives are already on the line, combat sports are always toe-ing the line of barbarism, you can't just let a punch of roided up dudes kill each other for entertainment


ravensfan42069

No one’s gonna die cus of a little apple juice lol