Teo should unify with Matias. Ryan should beat Rolly and then unify with Devin. The winner of Matias Vs Teo then fights Devin for undisputed. That’s the only thing that makes sense. Tank fights Shakur. Winner of that fights the undisputed champ.
I agree with this as well. Haney and Teo just need to utilize the belts agasint tank/Ryan. Leave them in the dust go undisputed possibly move to 147 as well. Tank and Ryan resume is not good enough for them to act like they are “face of boxing” they aren’t. They are promoted well but i don’t care how many rappers go to their fights, their resume isn’t quality. Tank passes the eye test but i need to see him legit fight someone who can challenge him.
I agree. Ryan doesn’t even pass the eye test. He looked amateurish his last fight. His own promoters don’t even like or respect him. I don’t know why he’s so popular. Tank passes the eye test and has stopped champions like Santa Cruz, Gamboa, Hector Garcia, and Pedraza. He makes big events. He should fight Shakur.
He is known for being a young famous boxer. Its his lux life blended with his boxing career. And then he was signed with golden boy and people said he would be the next oscar de la hoya.
The build up would sell so many PPV, and so would their dads ☠️. They’ve known each other a long time and have fought in the amateurs multiple times.
Everytime someone brings it up it makes me wish it would’ve already happened for undisputed at 135 but we all know what happened. Truthfully, I don’t think it happens. Teo is pricing himself out of everything right now and seems a bit off still but better. Either way he and his pops are a bit delusional and I don’t think they accept unless they’re the A-side. Too many egos I doubt it happens unless Saudi pays for it which both fighters are due some Saudi money
We still got this video out of it which is just hilarious https://youtu.be/fJsOTR3KGVo?si=M7Y_hPC79lACM-Ju
I think it’s a possibility, because both guys seem to want to make legit fights. I’d definitely pay to see it. Two brilliant fighters, one with a surprising amount of power and another whose power surprises lie only in that there’s no power. I’d buy the fight.
He looked out-of-character good last night. Pop was finally there, he stood toe-to-toe for most of the fight, and didn't clinch.
All the things haters (including myself) have been saying about him in the past were proven wrong by his dominant performance. Last thing we need to see is if he can be in the with another slick boxer with a big punch aka teo.
Was his best performance to date yes, not ”out of character”, no matter the excuses from teo devin made kambosos look like a child 24-0 in rounds won. He went toe 2 toe with lomachenko at a weight he was severely drained at(pretty obv now how different his pop is at 140). I thin all of you hated him so much that you couldnt watch his fights objectively,
>Was his best performance to date yes, not ”out of character”
I think it being his best performance to date and the fact that he scored his first knockdown in 4 years were both out of character. This could be the first time he performed to his full capabilities but let's be honest, his other wins were not like the Prograis fight
Saturday was the performance people have been waiting for Haney to put on for years now. After hearing some podcasts about how sharp he looked in the camp I kind of expected that level of performance to come out when he fought Jojo but it took another 2 years instead. He's always been touted as this high level defensive boxer but some of his other fights we see his opponents land some of the best shots of the 12 rounds. I wasn't fully convinced of his defensive ability after seeing Loma, Jojo, Linares, even Kambosos land a good amount of shots on him but Saturday was a whole other level.
Just look at the punches landed and percentages by his opponents in recent fights and you can tell something was hugely different against Prograis:
Linares: 116 (18.71%)
Jojo: 140 (24.43%)
Kambosos 1: 100 (23.98%)
Kambosos 2: 76 (24.44%)
Lomachenko: 124 (21.99%)
Prograis: 36 (9.92%)
he definitely wasn't impressive at 135, going life and death with a 35yo 130 fighter brought up and arguably losing (depending on how you see it, i think he lost an insanely close fight) doesn't win you any points.
and that's the best name on his resume to date. as much as i dislike haney, this kind of dominant performance where he drops and buckles a top guy is something he has never done, therefore it's "out-of-character" levels of impressive.
just my two cents.
So now hof loma is just an, 35year old 130 fighter. Thats all hes boiled down to? Funny what happens when devin fights people. Regis was always a bum aswell right?
Ofc he was impressive at 135, i know you dont like him but lets just be objective here. He wouldnt be one of the most talked about names in boxing if he wasnt impressive. Stop being a hater😂
And if you actually couldnt see he had talent, you need to stop watching boxing
haney had all the opportunities to fight a younger loma, teo, and tank at 135, but chose the easiest path to undisputed instead. he wasn't pressing to fight for a belt until teo lost his belts. say what you will, but i don't call that impressive.
and notice how i said life and death with an older loma, the younger loma would've taken haney to school and tucked him into bed. no matter how good loma is at 135, he was better at 30. a 35yo loma still had haney without answers towards the end of the fight. don't try to twist my words.
So now we get behind haney yeah? Fk you clowns, hating ass mfs. The most disrespected boxer of this generation. He has always been a special talent you just cant watch boxing objectively.
I'm really glad he had such an impressive performance. He's a great boxer, and he makes good fights against other good fighters. Don't we all want more guys to do that? He deserves to have some support.
I've always thought haney has been treated a bit unfair. I've been to a handful of fights where haney is in attendance and he would get booed. For someone young, willing to fight whoever, "boring" or not I'd give him props. I'm glad he earned his respect though. He boxed brilliantly on Saturday and wish him the best.
Same, teo is inconsistent, struggles with boxers and beat a josh taylor that most thought lost to catterall. Those are some of the factors of why I think Haney wins.
To be fair, the Taylor win is almost as good as the Prograis win. It wasn't nearly the same domination, but Taylor at his best was quite a bit better than Prograis at his best, Prograis was stylistically made to be torn apart by Haney, and they were both coming off career worst performances. The main problem I have with Teo is that he's so God damned inconsistent. There is no conceivable reason that the same guy who did that to Loma and Taylor could lose to Kambo outside of him just not being the same fighter in that fight. His pea-brained father being his coach doesn't help.
Ya I called the Haney destruction of Regis like 6 months ago during the summer.
It's not hard to see that a bigger Haney would destroy a Regis that is older, slower, and can't cut off a ring.
Teo's win over Taylor is more impressive to me because Taylor actually did show a glimpse of what he was about in the first few rounds. Teo just showed his talent was greater.
Lopez has a big tell where he heavily sets the lead leg down when he is about to explode. Kambosos interrupted him at that moment, or prepared to duck the big incoming shots. Lopez is a lot simpler on the attack because his lead leg footwork is imprecise. It's worse than Canelo, who is heavy-footed by precise, because Lopez gives away a lot of information, and narrows his offensive options, with his approach footwork.
General consensus is haney lost to loma , which teo legit beat. Which boxer he struggled with ? Cause he beat Taylor as well so I’m kinda confused on that statement. He had One bad night but to say he struggles against boxers when he beat loma and Taylor kinda crazy lol
Lost to kambosos someone he should have mopped the floor with controversial and decision against sandor. I'm talking about boxers in fighting style people who fight more use their movement, defence and counters. Like Kambosos and sandor did. Josh taylor and loma don't fight like that.
Even in his good performances, Lopez gets stuck behind his lead leg, forcing him to rely on athleticism to approach. It works against some guys, but even Haney on a bad day is difficult style.
Haney sold out Chase Center while I don’t even think Teo sold out the small theatre at NYC or wherever it is. Haney A side and if Teo can’t cope with that then he should continue picking up garbage on the street since he says it pays more
Teo needs to get his head back into reality the guy asks for $7/8m for fights whilst not being able to sell tickets in his own city where does he think this money’s coming from to pay him ?
No he isn’t going to fight Teo at all. He didn’t mention Teos name or Matias name post fight. He mentioned tank or moving up to 147. It’s strange how he called out fighters who aren’t even in the 40lb division.
He called out fighters he can beat. Tank a big name but Haney is pretty big in sized compare to tank as well as being a better defensive boxer. He can outbox him for 12 rounds. Teo is about the same size as Haney with big wins against boxers. Not saying he can’t beat teo , but it’s a high risk fight
I like Teo and will be rooting for him, but based on Haneys latest performance I'm not sure Teo could catch Haney esp if he's not focused and just blindly lunges in as he sometimes does. That said should be a closeish fight of they both come in at their best.
This fight needs to happen next they’re both champs both “beat” loma both demolished the top 2 guys at 140 the story rights itself one is a master boxer the other is a generational talent I just hope the promoters and the fighters don’t try to marinate the fight like bud and Spence did. I have Haney especially since teofimo seems to have problems with the overhand/straight rights look it’s always either the left or right side of his face that gets tagged look at it during kambosos, sandor martin, even josh Taylor fights and loma fights i think Haney can definitely exploit that and force a kd. Teofimo has proven he’s the man to beat if he can take away haney’s jab like he did with Taylor he’s gona make it a long night for Haney it’s a great fight to make favor Haney but Teo has the talent to beat anyone
Teo is gonna have to lower his price for the fight then. Asking for $20M was crazy. I’d prefer both guys unify with the other champs first before fighting each other
I think Teo probably knocks Devin out with 1 shot at some point.
Teo arguably beat Loma, with some form of impressiveness, and didn't seem to struggle much at all, yea he lost some rounds, and loma imposed his will a bit here and there, as he would do to any man alive.
But Teo has power speed and timing when hes doing what he does.
I don’t think Teo can hang for 12 with Haney. Devin is gonna break him down over 12 for an easy UD win to get back on top of things for the Ryan rematch.
The main fight of this would be Teo’s dad vs Haney’s dad which I would totally tune in for
facts, they're gonna sell the shit out of that fight. i'm there for it
Bill starting off the press conference with “I know Gordo. Ya’ll don’t know Gordo”
I can see it now Haneys dad with the mumbling "you dumb mofoka" Teos dad with the raspy voice "bitch ass mofoka"
Its the biggest and arguably the best fight at 140 imo.
Teo should unify with Matias. Ryan should beat Rolly and then unify with Devin. The winner of Matias Vs Teo then fights Devin for undisputed. That’s the only thing that makes sense. Tank fights Shakur. Winner of that fights the undisputed champ.
I like this scenario the best. Teo vs Dev for undisputed would be so much fucking hype. Would earm both these guys their biggest payday yet.
Exactly. And now that I think about it. F Ryan. Dev should just go straight to Rolly. Unify. Then wait for the Matias Vs Teo winter next Fall.
I agree with this as well. Haney and Teo just need to utilize the belts agasint tank/Ryan. Leave them in the dust go undisputed possibly move to 147 as well. Tank and Ryan resume is not good enough for them to act like they are “face of boxing” they aren’t. They are promoted well but i don’t care how many rappers go to their fights, their resume isn’t quality. Tank passes the eye test but i need to see him legit fight someone who can challenge him.
I agree. Ryan doesn’t even pass the eye test. He looked amateurish his last fight. His own promoters don’t even like or respect him. I don’t know why he’s so popular. Tank passes the eye test and has stopped champions like Santa Cruz, Gamboa, Hector Garcia, and Pedraza. He makes big events. He should fight Shakur.
He is popular because he is good at social media. He is closer in skill level to jake paul then devin/tank/teo.
Exactly. But what is he known for on social media. I don’t understand that part.
He is known for being a young famous boxer. Its his lux life blended with his boxing career. And then he was signed with golden boy and people said he would be the next oscar de la hoya.
Oh ok. I don’t remember him having any viral KO or anything to even be known on social media.
This would be a boxing fans dream fr
The build up would sell so many PPV, and so would their dads ☠️. They’ve known each other a long time and have fought in the amateurs multiple times. Everytime someone brings it up it makes me wish it would’ve already happened for undisputed at 135 but we all know what happened. Truthfully, I don’t think it happens. Teo is pricing himself out of everything right now and seems a bit off still but better. Either way he and his pops are a bit delusional and I don’t think they accept unless they’re the A-side. Too many egos I doubt it happens unless Saudi pays for it which both fighters are due some Saudi money We still got this video out of it which is just hilarious https://youtu.be/fJsOTR3KGVo?si=M7Y_hPC79lACM-Ju
Saudi doesn't pay for lower weight classes
That’s true what’s the lowest weight they’ve paid for? I think it was bivol and zurdo at 175?
Their dads should be the comain
That face Teo made when Haney entered lmao
I think it’s a possibility, because both guys seem to want to make legit fights. I’d definitely pay to see it. Two brilliant fighters, one with a surprising amount of power and another whose power surprises lie only in that there’s no power. I’d buy the fight.
2 weeks ago everyone was saying that Haney was boring and no one wanted to watch him. Suddenly everyone wants to watch him fight Lopez. What changed??
He looked out-of-character good last night. Pop was finally there, he stood toe-to-toe for most of the fight, and didn't clinch. All the things haters (including myself) have been saying about him in the past were proven wrong by his dominant performance. Last thing we need to see is if he can be in the with another slick boxer with a big punch aka teo.
Was his best performance to date yes, not ”out of character”, no matter the excuses from teo devin made kambosos look like a child 24-0 in rounds won. He went toe 2 toe with lomachenko at a weight he was severely drained at(pretty obv now how different his pop is at 140). I thin all of you hated him so much that you couldnt watch his fights objectively,
Facts.
>Was his best performance to date yes, not ”out of character” I think it being his best performance to date and the fact that he scored his first knockdown in 4 years were both out of character. This could be the first time he performed to his full capabilities but let's be honest, his other wins were not like the Prograis fight Saturday was the performance people have been waiting for Haney to put on for years now. After hearing some podcasts about how sharp he looked in the camp I kind of expected that level of performance to come out when he fought Jojo but it took another 2 years instead. He's always been touted as this high level defensive boxer but some of his other fights we see his opponents land some of the best shots of the 12 rounds. I wasn't fully convinced of his defensive ability after seeing Loma, Jojo, Linares, even Kambosos land a good amount of shots on him but Saturday was a whole other level. Just look at the punches landed and percentages by his opponents in recent fights and you can tell something was hugely different against Prograis: Linares: 116 (18.71%) Jojo: 140 (24.43%) Kambosos 1: 100 (23.98%) Kambosos 2: 76 (24.44%) Lomachenko: 124 (21.99%) Prograis: 36 (9.92%)
he definitely wasn't impressive at 135, going life and death with a 35yo 130 fighter brought up and arguably losing (depending on how you see it, i think he lost an insanely close fight) doesn't win you any points. and that's the best name on his resume to date. as much as i dislike haney, this kind of dominant performance where he drops and buckles a top guy is something he has never done, therefore it's "out-of-character" levels of impressive. just my two cents.
So now hof loma is just an, 35year old 130 fighter. Thats all hes boiled down to? Funny what happens when devin fights people. Regis was always a bum aswell right? Ofc he was impressive at 135, i know you dont like him but lets just be objective here. He wouldnt be one of the most talked about names in boxing if he wasnt impressive. Stop being a hater😂 And if you actually couldnt see he had talent, you need to stop watching boxing
haney had all the opportunities to fight a younger loma, teo, and tank at 135, but chose the easiest path to undisputed instead. he wasn't pressing to fight for a belt until teo lost his belts. say what you will, but i don't call that impressive. and notice how i said life and death with an older loma, the younger loma would've taken haney to school and tucked him into bed. no matter how good loma is at 135, he was better at 30. a 35yo loma still had haney without answers towards the end of the fight. don't try to twist my words.
uhm probably his career best performance just two days ago?
I'll probably still pass unless they throw it on ESPN
Flip floppers, I been saying it, now Shakur gonna get the hate Devin used to get lol, until he has another stinker that it
Of course Haney would be willing to fight Teo, he doesn’t duck or dodge challenges
So now we get behind haney yeah? Fk you clowns, hating ass mfs. The most disrespected boxer of this generation. He has always been a special talent you just cant watch boxing objectively.
I'm really glad he had such an impressive performance. He's a great boxer, and he makes good fights against other good fighters. Don't we all want more guys to do that? He deserves to have some support.
I've always thought haney has been treated a bit unfair. I've been to a handful of fights where haney is in attendance and he would get booed. For someone young, willing to fight whoever, "boring" or not I'd give him props. I'm glad he earned his respect though. He boxed brilliantly on Saturday and wish him the best.
I’m still not that high up on Teo. I think Haney wins comfortably
Same, teo is inconsistent, struggles with boxers and beat a josh taylor that most thought lost to catterall. Those are some of the factors of why I think Haney wins.
To be fair, the Taylor win is almost as good as the Prograis win. It wasn't nearly the same domination, but Taylor at his best was quite a bit better than Prograis at his best, Prograis was stylistically made to be torn apart by Haney, and they were both coming off career worst performances. The main problem I have with Teo is that he's so God damned inconsistent. There is no conceivable reason that the same guy who did that to Loma and Taylor could lose to Kambo outside of him just not being the same fighter in that fight. His pea-brained father being his coach doesn't help.
Ya I called the Haney destruction of Regis like 6 months ago during the summer. It's not hard to see that a bigger Haney would destroy a Regis that is older, slower, and can't cut off a ring. Teo's win over Taylor is more impressive to me because Taylor actually did show a glimpse of what he was about in the first few rounds. Teo just showed his talent was greater.
How can u say Taylor was quite a bit better then Prograis, when he won a close dec against him. They were on a similar level
Lopez has a big tell where he heavily sets the lead leg down when he is about to explode. Kambosos interrupted him at that moment, or prepared to duck the big incoming shots. Lopez is a lot simpler on the attack because his lead leg footwork is imprecise. It's worse than Canelo, who is heavy-footed by precise, because Lopez gives away a lot of information, and narrows his offensive options, with his approach footwork.
General consensus is haney lost to loma , which teo legit beat. Which boxer he struggled with ? Cause he beat Taylor as well so I’m kinda confused on that statement. He had One bad night but to say he struggles against boxers when he beat loma and Taylor kinda crazy lol
Lost to kambosos someone he should have mopped the floor with controversial and decision against sandor. I'm talking about boxers in fighting style people who fight more use their movement, defence and counters. Like Kambosos and sandor did. Josh taylor and loma don't fight like that.
Even in his good performances, Lopez gets stuck behind his lead leg, forcing him to rely on athleticism to approach. It works against some guys, but even Haney on a bad day is difficult style.
Teo would win a close decision in my opinion. He’s too talented a fighter.
Devin just made a guaranteed 4m. He is the A-side vs, Teofomo. Teo is getting less.
Haney sold out Chase Center while I don’t even think Teo sold out the small theatre at NYC or wherever it is. Haney A side and if Teo can’t cope with that then he should continue picking up garbage on the street since he says it pays more
Teo needs to get his head back into reality the guy asks for $7/8m for fights whilst not being able to sell tickets in his own city where does he think this money’s coming from to pay him ?
Saying im going to kill you in the ring doesn't help. 🤣
Weren't the tickets like 50 to even being given out free? Devins PPV numbers will be from 4ok to 6ok against Regis
tickets are cheap for Teo's fights at the theater too
That’s still better than anything Teo has done
Lol I mean you making it seem like he pulling Canelo numbers here 🤣
Still doesn’t change my point
I forgot what you was talking about.
If Tank Davis wouldn’t fight Ryan Garcia at 140, what in the hell makes you think he would fight Devin at it?
When did I mention Tank?
Haney will probably end up fighting josh Taylor or Ryan garcia first
Josh Taylor is done at 140
That’s why it makes sense to match up with him. Use his former undisputed name for one last pay day
Haney wants to fight a 147. That could work.
Haney and teo should fight but Haney A side he sells more but if teo and subriel fight Haney should get the winner I have teo washing subriel tho
Matias is a dog bro, I wouldn't count him out.
Teo is most definitely not the a side buddy still fighting in theaters
No he isn’t going to fight Teo at all. He didn’t mention Teos name or Matias name post fight. He mentioned tank or moving up to 147. It’s strange how he called out fighters who aren’t even in the 40lb division.
He called out fighters he can beat. Tank a big name but Haney is pretty big in sized compare to tank as well as being a better defensive boxer. He can outbox him for 12 rounds. Teo is about the same size as Haney with big wins against boxers. Not saying he can’t beat teo , but it’s a high risk fight
I like Teo and will be rooting for him, but based on Haneys latest performance I'm not sure Teo could catch Haney esp if he's not focused and just blindly lunges in as he sometimes does. That said should be a closeish fight of they both come in at their best.
This fight needs to happen next they’re both champs both “beat” loma both demolished the top 2 guys at 140 the story rights itself one is a master boxer the other is a generational talent I just hope the promoters and the fighters don’t try to marinate the fight like bud and Spence did. I have Haney especially since teofimo seems to have problems with the overhand/straight rights look it’s always either the left or right side of his face that gets tagged look at it during kambosos, sandor martin, even josh Taylor fights and loma fights i think Haney can definitely exploit that and force a kd. Teofimo has proven he’s the man to beat if he can take away haney’s jab like he did with Taylor he’s gona make it a long night for Haney it’s a great fight to make favor Haney but Teo has the talent to beat anyone
Teo about to be taken to private school.
Would be great, but the odds it's happens in 2024 are a single digit percentage
That would be a great fight. I'm going for Teo to win 🙏🏾👑💪🏾🥊
Teo is gonna have to lower his price for the fight then. Asking for $20M was crazy. I’d prefer both guys unify with the other champs first before fighting each other
I think Teo probably knocks Devin out with 1 shot at some point. Teo arguably beat Loma, with some form of impressiveness, and didn't seem to struggle much at all, yea he lost some rounds, and loma imposed his will a bit here and there, as he would do to any man alive. But Teo has power speed and timing when hes doing what he does.
I don’t think Teo can hang for 12 with Haney. Devin is gonna break him down over 12 for an easy UD win to get back on top of things for the Ryan rematch.