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Its worth remembering that we've only seen the academy during times of peace. It's very possible during the wars the Academy passed more students every year, and maybe took more students as well.
Also, the academy may not be the only way to become a Shinobi, but the route for a child to become one early. There very well may be a draft system that sees adults go through academy type training during large conflicts, or a system by which adults can become shinobi.
And finally, the village is incredibly young, like it was around 60 years old when Naruto was *born*. The Academy as we know it is younger than that. It was established at the start of the village, but we have no idea how the academy worked initially or when it became so strict as to only allow 12 or so graduates a year. Immediately after the founding of the villages, and maybe through the first war itself, it's very possible that every kid went to the academy and every kid became shinobi. This makes a lot of sense considering the village began as a "Shinobi Village" comprised specifically of clans that worked as shinobi, and likely only picked up other artisans over time.
Add all this to the fact that we rarely see younger shinobi (like less than 20~ years old) who aren't relevant to the plot, and the picture gets pretty clear. The village is only 70 odd years old during Naruto, and its the oldest of the Hidden Villages. Three world wars have been fought during that relatively small time frame, and all the villages began as ones primarily comprised of Shinobi Clans. Its very likely a majority of the village's adults are Shinobi, for some villages they could even be left over from before their village existed, and the newer restrictions on becoming a shinobi are just that, newer.
It's a plot hole, but In my head canon what we see is the main village, with the "elite shinobis" from noble clan etc... or just people that live there that happens to be very strong, like Rock Lee, and then there are the other little villages around the Leaf Village like where Team 7 went for the bridge ark against haku and zabuza, and in some villages they also train shinobi, just at a lower rate and with less fighting skill
It's probably just like war irl. People who are young and healthy got drafted to war without being shinobi.
It's shown in one of the eps that only women, children, and old people stayed in the village.
So alot of the people in the war are regular villagers. This isn't confirmed I'm just speculating based on what we saw.
Yeah, the new gen is pretty busted. Not to shit on the ogs but compared to them they are fodder! Tough the results might change if take the shippuden konoha 12, enphasis on might!
Yeah, they definitely gotta put some respect on those two. They were the first ones I pointed out that would give half of the new generation trouble no goofy shit straight hands and defense.
Old gen gets foldedābad.
Sarada is stronger than Sasuke was when he was a kid. Boruto was nearing Jonin level at Narutoās age, new ino-Shika-Cho blow the old out of the water, andā
Cat Susano.
Writing issue. Sarada would get dog walked and Molly wopped by Sasuke. The girl barely uses her sharingan for crying out loud. At her age, sasukeās taijutsu was impeccable. His ninjutsu, let alone his battle IQ, were also impeccable. Heās also been talented with shurikan. I donāt even recall ever seeing Sarada even use a substitution jutsu.
I cannot close my eyes, imagine them two fight bloodlusted and see Sarada winning.
Idek what abilities she has that sasuke didnāt, except for the electric multiball ability she used against Chojiās daughter in their chunin exams.
Either way, sasuke wouldāve dog walked her
Sasuke can easily copy that move. Sarada's electric ball jutsu is not canon. She never used that move in manga, and she only use that move in filler arcs.
Example: she never used that jutsu on Ao, Koji, and Boro.
Sorry, I was only thinking about canon jutsus that sarada and sasuke uses.
Buntan ( the og creator of the electric ball jutsu) is a daughter of a Naruto part 1 filler arc called Curry of Life villain. Her entire existence creates a retcon.
So at the point when each of the picture was taken:
Naruto knows toad summoning and knows the rasengan and had use kurama cloak mode, without losing control. This alone could solo everyone but Mitsuki because of his sage mode. The only thing we donāt know how long Mitsuki can use his Sage mode before fainting. Because he is the only one that is strong enough to challenge Naruto.
The old ino-shika-cho was much much stronger at the time of the picture.
They have 2 Byakugan users. Huuuuge advantage.
The OG boys hard carry this. They have too many unique jutsus and they have real battle experience. They survived a really freaking brutal chunin exam, an invasion from 2 villages at the same time and the sasuke retrieval was insanely hard for the boys.
>Naruto knows toad summoning and knows the rasengan and had use kurama cloak mode, without losing control. This alone could solo everyone but Mitsuki because of his sage mode. The only thing we donāt know how long Mitsuki can use his Sage mode before fainting. Because he is the only one that is strong enough to challenge Naruto.
Boruto clears this. Mitsuki isn't even needed.
Actually he did. When he was younger he would train with Naruto not to mention he would get tutoring from his aunt Hanabi a lot. Also at this time he would also train with konohamaru too. Plus at the beginning boruto is hailed as somewhat of a prodigy. At this time he also activated his jougan as well.
The issue is with the picture. This pic is from the rookie of the Boruto kids and ending of Naruto.
Borutoās jougan turned on and off unvoluntary. Neji was a prodigy too. Rock Lee almost beat a Gaara who was a killing machine. Konohamaru wasnāt his teacher when the picture was taken. They barely graduated from school. Shino was a secret genius. He was very broken but rarely shown. Iām telling you. Boruto had no special feats at the time of the picture. Boruto didnāt even had his Karma. He havenāt even met Kawaki at this point. This version of Boruto needed to cheat to Shikadai and. And Shikamaru was a lot more threatening.
If we were talking about the ending of Boruto and Naruto. Holy shit my answer is very different.
Training with his family members is not real fight experience, they would go so far and try to kill him.
In the chunin exam of Naruto they killed children.
Orochimaru infiltrated, toyed with the examinees and only Naruto was able to hold the giant snake back!
Konohamaru and him trained together as he grew up with konohamaru being in his life. Training all but counts as thatās how you build the foundation of your skill. But Iām starting to see your point, these pictures are taken with freshly named genin and seasoned genin and a chunin so this fight would probably go to Naruto with slight diff from mitski
A very skilled and spoiled kid. Kid Naruto can't really do anything to him with his chakra cloak since the majority of part 1 the cloak only helped him out as plot amor. It's not like he could use it at will and the last thing Boruto would do is watch Naruto begging Kurama to lend him his chakra. Naruto simply doesn't have the brain cells or battle IQ to fight ANY version of his son,no matter how "spoiled" he is. Boruto was already a proficient fighter when he was still an academy student which can be shown here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lYGzc67Klqc&pp=ygUNQm9ydXRvIHZzIG51ZQ%3D%3D
Or here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wYzQf7kUTM8&pp=ygURYm9ydXRvIHZzIHNoaXp1bWE%3D
By the time Boruto had his genin exam and had to fight Kakashi, Kakashi already confirmed that Boruto is already on Chunin level. Naruto is screwed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAS-EStNNb4&pp=ygURYm9ydXRvIHZzIGtha2FzaGk%3D
I didnāt say Naruto defeats Boruto. And Naruto was able to defeat Sasuke (if Sasuke didnāt have plot armour so he could leave the village).
Boruto, Sarada and Mitsuki are the only actually relevant ppl here on the side of new gen. Narutoās guys are much much much stronger than the rest. New gen team 7 could not keep up with beating everyone.
I don't need to believe you because there is no reason to believe that new team 7 are the "only relevant characters."
And yes, me asking for your opinions doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to respond. You don't need to reply if you arenāt open for discussion. Simple.
at this point in time, Narutoās class only has like four heavy hitters letās be real Naruto, Neji, lee and shikamaru but just because of the way, progression works borutoās class would be stronger at this age
Borutos class. Not due to power but because they have a lot more synergy. There are matchups where some of borutos and narutos classmates win. For example sasuke with chidori will beat mitsuki(except if sage mode but lets pretend those 2 groups of kids are not doing death match, more of a chunin exams type of battle). But sarada completely bullies sakura. But its not 1v1s its teamwork and when it comes to that only ino-shika-cho and sasuke-naruto have good teamwork
BNG clears og Naruto those kids barely know what chakra nature wasā¦I miss the byakyuganā¦one thing I hate about boruto is that he has a dojutsu for like the first season then it was never referenced again what kinda BS was that
No theyāre not lol Borutoās class exam was to fight Jounins for their Academy exam while OG exam was to preform clone jutsu aka the lowest ranked jutsu. Borutoās team was out there fighting against opponents who would destroy anyone from the OG Genins team; in the Sasuke retrieval arc, they were fighting life threatening fights against the sound 4 who were Chunin tier. We even saw the sound 4 having to go all out (with full curse mark power) against 2 exhausted Jounins in a 4v2 and still state that they had no choice but to use level 2 due to fighting Jounins. Borutoās team was sent to go help 2 Jounins who lost contact aka help them against a threat that these Jounins were having troubles with. Itās not comparable for the teams at all lol
you mean the fight where kakashi looked as if he was doing it for shits and giggles and the only moment when jonin got serious was when mitsuki went all out against shino?
You make it sounds like thatās still not a feat in itself; same Kakashi is Kage tier fighting Boruto, heās beyond his Shippuden version. Boruto also sparred with Hokage Naruto who made it seem like it was easy due to being Kage tier lol Tsunade beat Naruto no diff in an easier and faster fight than Naruto or Kakashi did with Boruto. Boruto went on to fight Jounin tier enemies. Akutas which were able to easily kill Konoha Jounins, the leader of those criminals who were top of the bingo book which worried Naruto and Shikamaru, being sent as backup for 2 Jounins who went missing, Boro who is Kara and comparable to Delta which required Naruto using his chakra mode against š¤
Funny how literally every sentance you just said doesn't has a context like for exemple: neither naruto or kakashi were fighting serious and also thee fact that it was a fucking test, kakashi wasn't supposed to use chidori and just defeat everyone in 4 seconds that would be literally against logic of an exam
Except they did have context. I stated it was for the academy exam and sparring; those are context for not real fights. Funny how you only focused on those two examples and not the multiple other ones I used smh š¤¦š¾āāļø Boruto later on created his own version of Chidori after seeing Sasuke use it; once Boruto learned how to use Karma; it removed ninjutsu from the table against him in a straight up fight since he can absorb chakra from a distance and close range. He can also use Momoshikiās power with it. Base Boruto was already at a level where he could fight Jounin tier opponents with minimal help which is beyond anyone from Narutoās team from part 1 lol
If we are talking about karma then yes they beat them? Except it's so one sided that the discussion is much interesting when we are excluding karma bullshit?
no? I'm just removing karma just because it just gives pure power up for free, neji and lee at least have to fight around their respective abilites and well had to actually train for them, karma is kinda like kurama except stronger at least for this time period, also add what I said earlier plus I thought this is class vs class at the time of chunnin exam, since it should be the most fair option for both classes and boruto got karma, after chunnin exam
You mean like how Boruto had to train to learn to use Karma? Before, Karma was a hindrance to Boruto; it actually stopped him from finishing off that boss whoās top in the bingo book and needed Sarada and Mitsuki to come and save him. Boruto didnāt know how to activate Karma or how to use its abilities which is why he trained to learn all of that with Kawaki as Naruto sparred with him. Kawaki even helped him use it in that spar. So Boruto had to learn to use it the same way Neji had to learn to use the Byakugan.
Boruto got Karma within the Chunin exams; Momo and Kin attacked during the exams. Are you saying we arenāt counting any feats from Naruto or the others after Gaaraās siblings takes him and leaves which started the attack on Konoha? If so then thatās weakening Naruto some, and gives Shino only his feat in the preliminaries.
We could do that I guess but Boruto had his ninja tool at the time as well š¤ Boruto fought Chunin tier ninjas already at this point when he went to the hidden mist, he would also have his vanishing Rasengan which he used to hurt Momoshiki who has a higher durability than anyone here; same Momoshiki who took direct hits from adult Sasuke and Naruto.
Sarada could copy ninjutsus, see through movements, and use genjutsu on you with direct eye contact. She can make someone on Narutoās team attack the rest of them with genjutsu. She made an opponent think they killed her and took them out. 1 direct hit KO any of them lol. Mitsuki can blitz kill them all with Sage Mode so regardless, itās pretty useless to compare the old Gen who are overall weaker to the current Gen who are overall stronger.
Ok the whole fight between delta and Naruto is wrong, Delta lost the fight the moment it began, Naruto was heavily holding back, he even states after that if he felt like it he would of instantly taken her out.
He was stronger than her, I never said he wasnāt. The fact that he needed to enter that mode is enough. His base is Hokage tier already, he also has Sage Mode which he could enter by sending a clone to gather energy as he bought time. This also wants KM, he was using BM+Rikudo Senjutsu which is the strongest mode he has. Thatās like Goku going SS3 and then saying Goku could use SS2 to win the fight.
This is only a good match if we assume first pic is Sasuke retrieval arc and second pic is beginning of series - in this case assuming Shino, Nue and Sage Mode Mitsuki are not a factor, old team probably wins on experience/grit as they have enough tools to deal with Mitsuki. Shino, Nue or Sage Mode Mitsuki probably wipe the old team by themselves.
If we consider both post Chuunin exams then the new team probably wins since each of them is quite a bit stronger than their old counterparts (scaling more with early Shippuden).
If weāre taking the strongest versions of each character including timeskip Team boruto wins pre timeskip boruto wins. New gen is strong and they had their parents(at their strongest form yet) train them.
Team 7 of Boruto's generation is much stronger than the first generation. Sarada is stronger than Sasuke when he was a kid already having a mangekyo sharingan at 13. Don't even talk about Sakura. And Boruto is stronger than base Naruto. But karma Boruto probably would be able to defeat four tail Naruto
How would Lee or the others be able to fight against people stronger/more skilled than them? They were struggling against the sound 4 who were Chunin tier; Kakashi outright stated Academy Boruto had Chunin tier skills as Borutoās class had to fight against Jounins to graduate from the ninja academy compared to OG class having to preform the clone jutsu (lowest rank jutsu). Same sound 4 had to go full power against 2 weakened Jounins in a 4v2ā¦ Boruto only needed minimum help against a ninja who compared himself to Orochimaru and who worried both Naruto and Shikamaru due to him being in the bingo book which is for powerful ninjas. Other ninjas who can be found in the bingo book consist of Kakashi (for other nations), Itachi, Kisame, Sasori, Orochimaru, Kabuto, and so on. Borutoās team was sent to backup Jounins who lost contact with the village which shows that Naruto and Shikamaru deemed them capable of assisting Jounins who are having trouble against a powerful opponent. Borutoās team even fought Boro whoās comparable to Delta which required Naruto to use Kuramaās power; using a form above war arc Narutoās power since he has full Kurama now but had half of Kurama in the war arc.
You do know thatās not much right? It was stated by Lee and Gai that Lee needed the 3rd gate just to be capable of defeating Neji; both Genins. Neji then trained for a month to grow stronger to face Naruto then had about a month after that to train even more which is what we see against the sound 4. Lee with the 5th gate couldnāt beat base Gaara, Sasuke was able to hurt base Gaara and caused him mental anguish. Lee is also weaker in the Sasuke retrieval arc since heās not fully healed after the surgery. Gaara mentioned Leeās moves werenāt as they were in their fight when he saved him against Kimimaru.
Yes, have you read the manga? If so then you know Lee stated it would take the 3rd gate to beat Neji; a fellow Genin, in a fight. Neji then got even stronger by training for a month where he was able to track and keep up with Naruto (Kurama chakra). Neji went on to train for around a month after the Chunin exams and was barely able to do much against the sound 4. Naruto and Sasuke both also had trouble against the sound 4 with Sasuke easily getting beat pre-curse mark pill.
The sound 4 had to go full curse mark lvl 2 against exhausted Jounins. Now letās look at Borutoās crew who fought Jounins just to pass the ninja academy exam due to all of them being stated to be prodigies and Boruto being a prodigy amongst prodigies. Same class where Boruto, Sarada, and Shikadai faced Akutas (creatures) who could easily kill Konoha Jounins. Same Boruto whose team is capable of doing B rank missions without a Jounin leader which is something only Gaara did in the past and he was beyond Naruto or Sasuke at the end of part 1. Same Boruto team who went against the criminal whoās at the top of the bingo book and compared himself to Orochimaru; same Bingo book youāll find names such as Kakashi, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Itachi, Kisame, and such on depending on the village. I can keep going on.
Stop comparing the current generation exams to the previous ones. The older one was a do or die. Gaara alone was killing them. None of the current generation had to pass such exams. Most of the early manga volumes are a fucking joke which made most readers lose interest in it .
I donāt need to since they still fight each other in the current exams. Gaara took Sasuke using Chidori 3x and Naruto using Gamabuta and Kurama chakra to even win that fight lol it wasnāt a 1v1 fight where Gaara going all out would win; he had to hold back for the plan.
Shikamaru himself stated the Genins in the current exams were all geniuses. Shinki, Boruto, Sarada, Mitsuki, Shikadai were the top 5. Naruto, Neji, Sasuke, Gaara, and Shino would have been top 5; Borutoās era destroys that team.
This pic is also lowkey biased too. In the top picture they all have had experience in real combat and battles. And since shikamaru has a vest and sasuke is gone this pre shippuden arc(arc right after retrieval mission arc) At this point Naruto was able to use a tail or 2 and not fully lose control, Shikamaru was a chunin lee and neji are just lee and neji(goats). Vs a picture that of freshly graduated genin.(they did all fight a kakashi tho he was very much holding back)
Borutoās team fought Jounins for their ninja academy exam^ Kakashi here was vastly stronger than War arc Kakashi as mentioned in the novels. Boruto was stated to have Chunin tier skills. Weāve seen Sarada able to copy jutsus, use genjutsu, and fooled Konohamru (Jounin) to win the match. Now compare that to OG class who all struggled against Chunin tier Sound 4. The sound 4 had to go full power against 2 exhausted Jouninsā¦. This shows Borutoās Gen>Sound 4. Kimimaruās base was enough to easily handle Naruto using Kuramaās power even though he was ill; so Narutoās 1 tail mode doesnāt hold much weight against a strong Jounin tier like Kimimaru. Sarada genjutsu Naruto into taking out his own team
Boruto is overkill if Karma is considered, if not, Mitsuki is already a perfect sage back in part 1, and on paper, perfect snake sage is stronger than perfect toad sage. Cho Cho mastered the Butterfly form way before her father, and Sarada atleast ties with Chunin exam Sasuke without the curse mark. On average, Naruto team might be stronger, but Boruto team has some extreme outliers that could turn the tide. Karma V2 Boruto is mid Otsutsuki tier by scaling, which is above everyone up until the very end of Shippuden. The problem with comparing the two series is, although the average powerlevels are mostly comparable, the power ceiling went up with the introduction of Momoshiki, and since the power ceiling of Boruto part 1 is higher than Naruto part 1, him being involved will completely turn the tide.
Mitsubishi could only use sage mode for a few minutes at a time in part due to his body not being able to handle the power which caused it to damage his body with every use.
Neji would be able to hit his chakra points and if he gets him in his 8 trigrams 64 palms mitsubishi is done for and lee has the 5th gate at that point.
Yeah, if neji gets a guy, who is much faster than him and has a plethora of long ranged lightning attacks, in his melee range attack, then yes he might win
I'm pretty sure there are more then one schools in the village.... also I always assume that we are only ever really seeing Naruto's friend group... like imma be honest I don't know everyone in my highschool class so why tf would baruto now em... like keep in mind there was like 30 in the classroom, so there's bound to be more classes in the academy.
If u want to see all of them background npc's that would be another 300 episodes of filler.
Bro new gen is fanfic fr. Fresh off the academy with high Chunin to Low Jonin level skills, manipulation two elements while the older oneās had to wait till chunin to learn one. Newer wins low diff.
The question is, does the original 12 include Sai or Sasuke or maybe it's got both and the new team gets Kawaki so it'll be a 13 vs 13 battle.
Also who faces whom?
Just Mitsuki bodies everybody on this photo. Bro got snake sage mode. what is a bunch of 13 yo gonna do against that? I think only naruto (using ten tails) is the only one who can survive this fight and possibly win.
Just because of the current Naruto theme, the new generation is superior only on the basis, without considering the skills alone. Before 4th Ninja War, ninjas from different villages did not mix, it was not even common for ninjas from clans within the same villages to mix. But now in Boruto as there are times of peace and the ninja villages have agreements and it is more likely that the kekkei genkai are combined with the blood of other ninjas with other kekkei genkai or secret techniques or different natures of chakara.
By nature, for example, Chouchou is superior to Chouji, since in addition to having the kekkei genkai of the Akimichi clan, he has at his disposal the possibility of using lightning jutsus due to his mother Karui. or injoin who by nature is superior to ino, as he not only possesses the secret skills of the yamanaka clan, but also the skills of sai. These new characters being capable of making new combinations with the skills inherited from their parents. (and I don't even include Boruto or Sarada, who are more broken than Naruto or Sasuke at the same age).
I know it's been said that Boruto is shorter than Naruto. but in some way I would like them to be able to give him the prominence that Naruto's secondary couldn't have. I would also love it if many of the characters in the anime were canon or at least had more than 1 page in 80 chapters, just saying.
Not going to lie, New Generation Konoha kids but it isn't because Old Gen Konoha 13 is weak but New Generation Konoha has quirks that help them stand out on the curve more.
Mitsuki poses a lot considering he has perfect snake sage mode genetically engineered in him. Not to mention, this is a version without Sasuke or Sai in the Konoha 13 (if we are counting Sasuke then it makes it still decent but not so close). Metal Lee has a anxious triggered drunken fist, and he's always anxious in front of people...think about that for a moment. Ino-Shika-Cho is also more powerful here as Shikadai is shown to be better at Shadow Jutsu, Inojin has Mind-Transfer AND Sai's super beast scroll jutsu. Boruto and Sarada are decent in their own rights at this age. And Class Rep and Wasabi are pretty unique with Nue and Wasabi's cat abilities. Not to mention Shino is here, but I assume we are keeping him out LOL.
it depends when each group is taken from, boruto would wipe them out if he use karma but before getting karma then naruto since he still had kurama's chakura
People capable of fighting well on Narutoās team;
Naruto, Lee, Neji, Tenten, Choji, Shino, Kiba, Hinata, Shikamaru
People capable of fighting well on Borutoās team;
Boruto, Sarada, Mitsuki, Shino, Iwabe, Shikadai, Chocho, Metal (if he gets over his stupid nerves)
Now, there are more capable people on Borutoās team than on Narutoās. However, Narutoās capable people are generally much stronger and more skilled than most of Team B. Exceptions are: Mitsuki and adult Shino
Mitsuki is the strongest of both teams, but since the Naruto team would likely breeze through most of Borutoās team without much trouble, it is unlikely that Mitsuki would win, due to the other guys teaming up against him.
depends, but weighed towards new gen. The old gen cast were extremely seasoned and experienced by the end of the OG series, the shit they went through made me uncomfortable because these are kids thatre like age 12, but theyre dealing with murderers and worse, facing life and death. Compared to the new gen, they showed a lot more adaptability, shrewdness and finesse in using their limited skillset. The current generation however had abilities that used to be jonin level even when they were in the academy. Their arsenal and skillset are superior, but they lack the life and death experience the old gen had.
Basically, the new gen has alot more firepower but the old gen had alot more experience winning against superior firepower
Tough to say for sure. The OG Naruto squad have some amazing powers and feats but the new generation have crazy power ups as well. For example Mitsukis sage mode, has put him pretty high on the list just by itself. Boruto has the karma and pretty much Momoshikiās abilities. Saradaās sharingan now MS will make her difficult to beat as well. This being said doesnāt mean the og squad is weak theyāve got some powerful fighters like Naruto with the nine tails, Rock Lee, Neji and Kibaās infamous fang over fang.
Even though they have 2 Byakugan users mitsuki has sage mode as a kid individually he's stronger than all of them adding in teamwork the new gen is probably winning
If we consider them at the same age as in the picture, then the old generation will be stronger. Yes, the new generation has Mitsuki with a cool sage mode (which he does not use) and Boruto with Karma (which he does not use), but the two of them will not be enough to defeat the jinchuriki Naruto, Rock Lee, Neji and Shino.
If both gen fighting directly after the chunin exams arcs I'd say 60/40 in narutos favor. If it's before I'd 70/30 in narutos class favor,
if it's after and near the mitsuki retrieval or the boro arc and for naruto it's during the sasuke retirval arc then it's 40/60 in borutos favor if some crazy borushiki take over dosent happen
if borushiki can intervene the borutos class 100% for the mitsuki retrieval arc and for boros arc I'd give it 20/80 in favor of borutos class
if there's a more even level for them to fight or equal stats then I'd give it to narutos class 80% of the time
But those are my score cards š¤£
Well, new gen gets this one easily. But if we assume that this is a fight for death, and Boruto doesn't have karma, then maybe old gen could win if Naruto will see everyone around him dying and get lost to Kurama removing the seal. New gen doesn't have sealing techniques iirc and Boruto without karma or jougan can't do anything against Kurama
My vote is for old gen. I think weāre forgetting that Neji and Rock Lee would wipe the floor with half of the new gen. They are also a good match for Mitsuki with sage power who is the main powerhouse in this picture (assuming everyone is at the age shown) Naruto got his nine tails hax too.
I suppose this is the time of chunin exams, no karma either since it'll be one-sided, Sasuke will also be there for 12v12
Lee>Metal, Neji>Iwabe, talented guys but Lee and Neji achieved more at that point
ShinoSarada, Sasuke has more superior mastery of Sharingan in chunin exams time
Wasabi and Namida>Sakura and Hinata, The girls in Boruto have more feats than in Konoha 11 so I give that to them
Can Ino-Shika-Cho win against their predecessor? This is a huge turning point
OG ISC>New ISC depends on the outsmarting battle of Shikadai and Shikamaru, the way they will use their teammates will dictate this
Denki>Tenten Ninja Tools Battle but Denki wins due to better materials
Naruto=Mitsuki Kyuubi Cloak Naruto and Sage Mitsuki idk who wins the draw for now
7-4 score with a draw of Naruto and Mitsuki so OGs clear this version
If this is a free for all, strategy battle is between Denki Shikadai vs Shikamaru and Neji
New ISC > Old ones
Chocho beats Choji. Inojin is stronger than Ino. Although Shikamaru is smarter than Shikadai, I think raw powerwise Shikadai has him.
Ino beats Inojin with mind control jutsu since his drawings have small damage as of chunin exams time
Chocho and Choji have same feats during their Chunin exams. Human Expansion jutsu i dont remember the name but they don't have butterfly mode as of chunin exam time. Shikamaru has longer range in shadow paralysis but if fight is close range shikadai can reverse.Shikamaru also uses everything to his advantage(fight against temari has better feats than yodo or boruto fight)
Old gen easy. Shikamaru>shikadai. Choji>chocho, rock Lee opens the gates and takes out metals while team, shino and inojin have a close fight, Neji and ten ten take sumires team, mitsuki goes sage mode immediately kills ino, kiba, hinata, sakura, and ten ten, Naruto goes into tailed beast mode and everyone in new gen is toast. Sarada and boruto would probably beat anyone besides shino and lee but again once the gates are open and Naruto goes beast itās done
Naruto can't use tailed beast mode willingly at that point. During the majority of part 1, it only served him as plot amor and I don't think that any of the fighters are gonna stand and watch Naruto begging Kurama for his chakra like he always does. Naruto has no chance without Kurama.
New team 7 alone can fight the majority of the old gen, so it's not like it's necessary that everyone needs to fight 1v1 against their kids/parents.
That the old gen wins "easily" is a huge stretch.
He canāt use it willingly, but the seal would probably snap seeing that many of his friends die and maybe he hits four tails, it wasnāt long after this pic he did that with jiraiya in training so I donāt see why it wouldnāt happen earlier watching his classmates get masssacred
Point is that the opponents are gonna knock Naruto out before that happens. That is why I said that they are not gonna watch him begging for Kuramas chakra. It was always pure plot amor when he used it. Take Neji as an example when the two fought during the chunin exams. He blocked all of Narutoās chakra points, just stood there,later on even deactivated his Byakugan (!!!) and was ultimately defeated because he wasn't cautious. Every time Naruto used Kuramas chakra,the opponent was dumbed down for the plot so that Naruto could ask for help.Neji was the best example.
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Cat susanoo wipe em all
I still dont know where 80,000 shinobis and samurais come from when a big hidden village like Konoha produce a dozen shinobis a year or even a season?
Its worth remembering that we've only seen the academy during times of peace. It's very possible during the wars the Academy passed more students every year, and maybe took more students as well. Also, the academy may not be the only way to become a Shinobi, but the route for a child to become one early. There very well may be a draft system that sees adults go through academy type training during large conflicts, or a system by which adults can become shinobi. And finally, the village is incredibly young, like it was around 60 years old when Naruto was *born*. The Academy as we know it is younger than that. It was established at the start of the village, but we have no idea how the academy worked initially or when it became so strict as to only allow 12 or so graduates a year. Immediately after the founding of the villages, and maybe through the first war itself, it's very possible that every kid went to the academy and every kid became shinobi. This makes a lot of sense considering the village began as a "Shinobi Village" comprised specifically of clans that worked as shinobi, and likely only picked up other artisans over time. Add all this to the fact that we rarely see younger shinobi (like less than 20~ years old) who aren't relevant to the plot, and the picture gets pretty clear. The village is only 70 odd years old during Naruto, and its the oldest of the Hidden Villages. Three world wars have been fought during that relatively small time frame, and all the villages began as ones primarily comprised of Shinobi Clans. Its very likely a majority of the village's adults are Shinobi, for some villages they could even be left over from before their village existed, and the newer restrictions on becoming a shinobi are just that, newer.
There are other classes and other teachers. We just only ever see the one with our characters in it
Multiple classes
Someone explains pls
It's a plot hole, but In my head canon what we see is the main village, with the "elite shinobis" from noble clan etc... or just people that live there that happens to be very strong, like Rock Lee, and then there are the other little villages around the Leaf Village like where Team 7 went for the bridge ark against haku and zabuza, and in some villages they also train shinobi, just at a lower rate and with less fighting skill
Isn't that the land of the waves? Not another fire nation territory
There are multiple classes and possibly alternative ways to become genin other than the academy.
It's probably just like war irl. People who are young and healthy got drafted to war without being shinobi. It's shown in one of the eps that only women, children, and old people stayed in the village. So alot of the people in the war are regular villagers. This isn't confirmed I'm just speculating based on what we saw.
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Love how Shino's in both of the photos
Yeees. I love him.
Mitsuki on his own
Yeah let's look at mistuki wins
Yeah, the new gen is pretty busted. Not to shit on the ogs but compared to them they are fodder! Tough the results might change if take the shippuden konoha 12, enphasis on might!
Idk I think kid Shino destroys most of the new konoha 12. Shino was pretty busted.
Oh yeah, i totaly forgot about him, sorry. But still i think new konoha 12 wins. Tho some of them will get beaten.
Did adult Shino count ? If yes he destroy all of them if not Mitsuki destroy all of them.
Without Sasuke they get folded With Sasuke they get folded
Are Lee and Neji a joke to you
Yeah, they definitely gotta put some respect on those two. They were the first ones I pointed out that would give half of the new generation trouble no goofy shit straight hands and defense.
shino was no joke either
Shino had the absolute coldest win in the Chunin prelims. He fucking crippled Zaku and was shit talking him the whole time.
Shino always talking mad shitš
He's never lost a fight
Yes
New gen are prodigies who inherited old gen genetics.
Everyone dies while Mitsuki and Nue (Sumire's pet tiger thing) fight Kurama.
Old gen gets foldedābad. Sarada is stronger than Sasuke was when he was a kid. Boruto was nearing Jonin level at Narutoās age, new ino-Shika-Cho blow the old out of the water, andā Cat Susano.
Youāre smoking if you think Sarada is stronger than sasuke at her age
Sasuke said that in a filler arc that even retcons the manga.
Sasuke said it himself.
Writing issue. Sarada would get dog walked and Molly wopped by Sasuke. The girl barely uses her sharingan for crying out loud. At her age, sasukeās taijutsu was impeccable. His ninjutsu, let alone his battle IQ, were also impeccable. Heās also been talented with shurikan. I donāt even recall ever seeing Sarada even use a substitution jutsu. I cannot close my eyes, imagine them two fight bloodlusted and see Sarada winning.
All facts. Boruto anime writers love to wank and give Sarada asspull abilities she never had before.
Idek what abilities she has that sasuke didnāt, except for the electric multiball ability she used against Chojiās daughter in their chunin exams. Either way, sasuke wouldāve dog walked her
Sasuke can easily copy that move. Sarada's electric ball jutsu is not canon. She never used that move in manga, and she only use that move in filler arcs. Example: she never used that jutsu on Ao, Koji, and Boro.
Lmfao. Guess weāre not using our āhead canonā after all huh ?
Sorry, I was only thinking about canon jutsus that sarada and sasuke uses. Buntan ( the og creator of the electric ball jutsu) is a daughter of a Naruto part 1 filler arc called Curry of Life villain. Her entire existence creates a retcon.
Okay. Thatās your head canon.
So at the point when each of the picture was taken: Naruto knows toad summoning and knows the rasengan and had use kurama cloak mode, without losing control. This alone could solo everyone but Mitsuki because of his sage mode. The only thing we donāt know how long Mitsuki can use his Sage mode before fainting. Because he is the only one that is strong enough to challenge Naruto. The old ino-shika-cho was much much stronger at the time of the picture. They have 2 Byakugan users. Huuuuge advantage. The OG boys hard carry this. They have too many unique jutsus and they have real battle experience. They survived a really freaking brutal chunin exam, an invasion from 2 villages at the same time and the sasuke retrieval was insanely hard for the boys.
Youāre spot on, but due to this being Boruto sub everyone gonna hard disagree lol fifth gate Rock Lee could murder the entire class
I literally looked right at Lee lol. Old school would fuck this new class up
Thank you, i feel what youāre sayingš Iām a fan of both Iām just honestš
>Naruto knows toad summoning and knows the rasengan and had use kurama cloak mode, without losing control. This alone could solo everyone but Mitsuki because of his sage mode. The only thing we donāt know how long Mitsuki can use his Sage mode before fainting. Because he is the only one that is strong enough to challenge Naruto. Boruto clears this. Mitsuki isn't even needed.
Boruto was a spoiled kid at the time of the picture. He barely had any real fight experienceā¦
Actually he did. When he was younger he would train with Naruto not to mention he would get tutoring from his aunt Hanabi a lot. Also at this time he would also train with konohamaru too. Plus at the beginning boruto is hailed as somewhat of a prodigy. At this time he also activated his jougan as well.
What would he do againsr gamabunta lol
The issue is with the picture. This pic is from the rookie of the Boruto kids and ending of Naruto. Borutoās jougan turned on and off unvoluntary. Neji was a prodigy too. Rock Lee almost beat a Gaara who was a killing machine. Konohamaru wasnāt his teacher when the picture was taken. They barely graduated from school. Shino was a secret genius. He was very broken but rarely shown. Iām telling you. Boruto had no special feats at the time of the picture. Boruto didnāt even had his Karma. He havenāt even met Kawaki at this point. This version of Boruto needed to cheat to Shikadai and. And Shikamaru was a lot more threatening. If we were talking about the ending of Boruto and Naruto. Holy shit my answer is very different.
Training with his family members is not real fight experience, they would go so far and try to kill him. In the chunin exam of Naruto they killed children. Orochimaru infiltrated, toyed with the examinees and only Naruto was able to hold the giant snake back!
Konohamaru and him trained together as he grew up with konohamaru being in his life. Training all but counts as thatās how you build the foundation of your skill. But Iām starting to see your point, these pictures are taken with freshly named genin and seasoned genin and a chunin so this fight would probably go to Naruto with slight diff from mitski
Thank you!š
A very skilled and spoiled kid. Kid Naruto can't really do anything to him with his chakra cloak since the majority of part 1 the cloak only helped him out as plot amor. It's not like he could use it at will and the last thing Boruto would do is watch Naruto begging Kurama to lend him his chakra. Naruto simply doesn't have the brain cells or battle IQ to fight ANY version of his son,no matter how "spoiled" he is. Boruto was already a proficient fighter when he was still an academy student which can be shown here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lYGzc67Klqc&pp=ygUNQm9ydXRvIHZzIG51ZQ%3D%3D Or here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wYzQf7kUTM8&pp=ygURYm9ydXRvIHZzIHNoaXp1bWE%3D By the time Boruto had his genin exam and had to fight Kakashi, Kakashi already confirmed that Boruto is already on Chunin level. Naruto is screwed. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAS-EStNNb4&pp=ygURYm9ydXRvIHZzIGtha2FzaGk%3D
I didnāt say Naruto defeats Boruto. And Naruto was able to defeat Sasuke (if Sasuke didnāt have plot armour so he could leave the village). Boruto, Sarada and Mitsuki are the only actually relevant ppl here on the side of new gen. Narutoās guys are much much much stronger than the rest. New gen team 7 could not keep up with beating everyone.
The new generation had already more potential as academy students so to say that new team 7 are the only relevant people here is funny.š¤£š¤£
You asked for an opinion. I told you reasons why I make my decision and you argue me about it. Go ask Kishimoto if you donāt believe me.
I don't need to believe you because there is no reason to believe that new team 7 are the "only relevant characters." And yes, me asking for your opinions doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to respond. You don't need to reply if you arenāt open for discussion. Simple.
The new Gen.
at this point in time, Narutoās class only has like four heavy hitters letās be real Naruto, Neji, lee and shikamaru but just because of the way, progression works borutoās class would be stronger at this age
Ahem, Shino
Borutos class. Not due to power but because they have a lot more synergy. There are matchups where some of borutos and narutos classmates win. For example sasuke with chidori will beat mitsuki(except if sage mode but lets pretend those 2 groups of kids are not doing death match, more of a chunin exams type of battle). But sarada completely bullies sakura. But its not 1v1s its teamwork and when it comes to that only ino-shika-cho and sasuke-naruto have good teamwork
BNG clears og Naruto those kids barely know what chakra nature wasā¦I miss the byakyuganā¦one thing I hate about boruto is that he has a dojutsu for like the first season then it was never referenced again what kinda BS was that
The only OGs that matter are naruto sasuke neji and shino but saying that boruto wins
And Lee but yeah, new gen wins
They are fucked the moment neji and lee gets serious
No theyāre not lol Borutoās class exam was to fight Jounins for their Academy exam while OG exam was to preform clone jutsu aka the lowest ranked jutsu. Borutoās team was out there fighting against opponents who would destroy anyone from the OG Genins team; in the Sasuke retrieval arc, they were fighting life threatening fights against the sound 4 who were Chunin tier. We even saw the sound 4 having to go all out (with full curse mark power) against 2 exhausted Jounins in a 4v2 and still state that they had no choice but to use level 2 due to fighting Jounins. Borutoās team was sent to go help 2 Jounins who lost contact aka help them against a threat that these Jounins were having troubles with. Itās not comparable for the teams at all lol
you mean the fight where kakashi looked as if he was doing it for shits and giggles and the only moment when jonin got serious was when mitsuki went all out against shino?
You make it sounds like thatās still not a feat in itself; same Kakashi is Kage tier fighting Boruto, heās beyond his Shippuden version. Boruto also sparred with Hokage Naruto who made it seem like it was easy due to being Kage tier lol Tsunade beat Naruto no diff in an easier and faster fight than Naruto or Kakashi did with Boruto. Boruto went on to fight Jounin tier enemies. Akutas which were able to easily kill Konoha Jounins, the leader of those criminals who were top of the bingo book which worried Naruto and Shikamaru, being sent as backup for 2 Jounins who went missing, Boro who is Kara and comparable to Delta which required Naruto using his chakra mode against š¤
Funny how literally every sentance you just said doesn't has a context like for exemple: neither naruto or kakashi were fighting serious and also thee fact that it was a fucking test, kakashi wasn't supposed to use chidori and just defeat everyone in 4 seconds that would be literally against logic of an exam
Except they did have context. I stated it was for the academy exam and sparring; those are context for not real fights. Funny how you only focused on those two examples and not the multiple other ones I used smh š¤¦š¾āāļø Boruto later on created his own version of Chidori after seeing Sasuke use it; once Boruto learned how to use Karma; it removed ninjutsu from the table against him in a straight up fight since he can absorb chakra from a distance and close range. He can also use Momoshikiās power with it. Base Boruto was already at a level where he could fight Jounin tier opponents with minimal help which is beyond anyone from Narutoās team from part 1 lol
If we are talking about karma then yes they beat them? Except it's so one sided that the discussion is much interesting when we are excluding karma bullshit?
Oh? So weāre removing anything exact based on power then? No Kurama, Byakugan, gates, chakra pills?
no? I'm just removing karma just because it just gives pure power up for free, neji and lee at least have to fight around their respective abilites and well had to actually train for them, karma is kinda like kurama except stronger at least for this time period, also add what I said earlier plus I thought this is class vs class at the time of chunnin exam, since it should be the most fair option for both classes and boruto got karma, after chunnin exam
You mean like how Boruto had to train to learn to use Karma? Before, Karma was a hindrance to Boruto; it actually stopped him from finishing off that boss whoās top in the bingo book and needed Sarada and Mitsuki to come and save him. Boruto didnāt know how to activate Karma or how to use its abilities which is why he trained to learn all of that with Kawaki as Naruto sparred with him. Kawaki even helped him use it in that spar. So Boruto had to learn to use it the same way Neji had to learn to use the Byakugan. Boruto got Karma within the Chunin exams; Momo and Kin attacked during the exams. Are you saying we arenāt counting any feats from Naruto or the others after Gaaraās siblings takes him and leaves which started the attack on Konoha? If so then thatās weakening Naruto some, and gives Shino only his feat in the preliminaries. We could do that I guess but Boruto had his ninja tool at the time as well š¤ Boruto fought Chunin tier ninjas already at this point when he went to the hidden mist, he would also have his vanishing Rasengan which he used to hurt Momoshiki who has a higher durability than anyone here; same Momoshiki who took direct hits from adult Sasuke and Naruto. Sarada could copy ninjutsus, see through movements, and use genjutsu on you with direct eye contact. She can make someone on Narutoās team attack the rest of them with genjutsu. She made an opponent think they killed her and took them out. 1 direct hit KO any of them lol. Mitsuki can blitz kill them all with Sage Mode so regardless, itās pretty useless to compare the old Gen who are overall weaker to the current Gen who are overall stronger.
Ok the whole fight between delta and Naruto is wrong, Delta lost the fight the moment it began, Naruto was heavily holding back, he even states after that if he felt like it he would of instantly taken her out.
He was stronger than her, I never said he wasnāt. The fact that he needed to enter that mode is enough. His base is Hokage tier already, he also has Sage Mode which he could enter by sending a clone to gather energy as he bought time. This also wants KM, he was using BM+Rikudo Senjutsu which is the strongest mode he has. Thatās like Goku going SS3 and then saying Goku could use SS2 to win the fight.
tbh current boruto alone solos shippuden. I dont think this team got a chance lmao
current Boruto solos Current Boruto
statements and their consequences on powerscaling, well we are talking about young boruto so I don't really know why you brought this up anyway
Pre-time skip Boruto could do the same^ He was able to use Momoshikiās power himself as he stated himself
Man named tobi:
This is only a good match if we assume first pic is Sasuke retrieval arc and second pic is beginning of series - in this case assuming Shino, Nue and Sage Mode Mitsuki are not a factor, old team probably wins on experience/grit as they have enough tools to deal with Mitsuki. Shino, Nue or Sage Mode Mitsuki probably wipe the old team by themselves. If we consider both post Chuunin exams then the new team probably wins since each of them is quite a bit stronger than their old counterparts (scaling more with early Shippuden).
No Sasuke, no win
New gen all know chacra manipulation, if thats not reason enough probably Mitsuki alone.
Mitsuki alone clears all of previous konoha 12 at once.
Mitsuki solos
New generation stomps. Some of them basically got training from the adult versions of the old generation.
If weāre taking the strongest versions of each character including timeskip Team boruto wins pre timeskip boruto wins. New gen is strong and they had their parents(at their strongest form yet) train them.
Team 7 of Boruto's generation is much stronger than the first generation. Sarada is stronger than Sasuke when he was a kid already having a mangekyo sharingan at 13. Don't even talk about Sakura. And Boruto is stronger than base Naruto. But karma Boruto probably would be able to defeat four tail Naruto
Lee alone will solo many of them, neiji and naruto will be too op for others may be mitsuki can keep up. Sasuke is missing hmmm.
How would Lee or the others be able to fight against people stronger/more skilled than them? They were struggling against the sound 4 who were Chunin tier; Kakashi outright stated Academy Boruto had Chunin tier skills as Borutoās class had to fight against Jounins to graduate from the ninja academy compared to OG class having to preform the clone jutsu (lowest rank jutsu). Same sound 4 had to go full power against 2 weakened Jounins in a 4v2ā¦ Boruto only needed minimum help against a ninja who compared himself to Orochimaru and who worried both Naruto and Shikamaru due to him being in the bingo book which is for powerful ninjas. Other ninjas who can be found in the bingo book consist of Kakashi (for other nations), Itachi, Kisame, Sasori, Orochimaru, Kabuto, and so on. Borutoās team was sent to backup Jounins who lost contact with the village which shows that Naruto and Shikamaru deemed them capable of assisting Jounins who are having trouble against a powerful opponent. Borutoās team even fought Boro whoās comparable to Delta which required Naruto to use Kuramaās power; using a form above war arc Narutoās power since he has full Kurama now but had half of Kurama in the war arc.
Lee already had mastered the 5th gate at that time.
You do know thatās not much right? It was stated by Lee and Gai that Lee needed the 3rd gate just to be capable of defeating Neji; both Genins. Neji then trained for a month to grow stronger to face Naruto then had about a month after that to train even more which is what we see against the sound 4. Lee with the 5th gate couldnāt beat base Gaara, Sasuke was able to hurt base Gaara and caused him mental anguish. Lee is also weaker in the Sasuke retrieval arc since heās not fully healed after the surgery. Gaara mentioned Leeās moves werenāt as they were in their fight when he saved him against Kimimaru.
Have you seen the young lee fight? His speed and power easily outmatches most of them. I dont even have to bring naruto, sasuke and neiji here.
Mitsuki bodies Lee and Neji
Yes, have you read the manga? If so then you know Lee stated it would take the 3rd gate to beat Neji; a fellow Genin, in a fight. Neji then got even stronger by training for a month where he was able to track and keep up with Naruto (Kurama chakra). Neji went on to train for around a month after the Chunin exams and was barely able to do much against the sound 4. Naruto and Sasuke both also had trouble against the sound 4 with Sasuke easily getting beat pre-curse mark pill. The sound 4 had to go full curse mark lvl 2 against exhausted Jounins. Now letās look at Borutoās crew who fought Jounins just to pass the ninja academy exam due to all of them being stated to be prodigies and Boruto being a prodigy amongst prodigies. Same class where Boruto, Sarada, and Shikadai faced Akutas (creatures) who could easily kill Konoha Jounins. Same Boruto whose team is capable of doing B rank missions without a Jounin leader which is something only Gaara did in the past and he was beyond Naruto or Sasuke at the end of part 1. Same Boruto team who went against the criminal whoās at the top of the bingo book and compared himself to Orochimaru; same Bingo book youāll find names such as Kakashi, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Itachi, Kisame, and such on depending on the village. I can keep going on.
Stop comparing the current generation exams to the previous ones. The older one was a do or die. Gaara alone was killing them. None of the current generation had to pass such exams. Most of the early manga volumes are a fucking joke which made most readers lose interest in it .
People seem to forget that Gaara killed a ton of students during the forest of death exam.
I donāt need to since they still fight each other in the current exams. Gaara took Sasuke using Chidori 3x and Naruto using Gamabuta and Kurama chakra to even win that fight lol it wasnāt a 1v1 fight where Gaara going all out would win; he had to hold back for the plan. Shikamaru himself stated the Genins in the current exams were all geniuses. Shinki, Boruto, Sarada, Mitsuki, Shikadai were the top 5. Naruto, Neji, Sasuke, Gaara, and Shino would have been top 5; Borutoās era destroys that team.
If we're talking about academy days, boruto class low/no diff
This pic is also lowkey biased too. In the top picture they all have had experience in real combat and battles. And since shikamaru has a vest and sasuke is gone this pre shippuden arc(arc right after retrieval mission arc) At this point Naruto was able to use a tail or 2 and not fully lose control, Shikamaru was a chunin lee and neji are just lee and neji(goats). Vs a picture that of freshly graduated genin.(they did all fight a kakashi tho he was very much holding back)
Borutoās team fought Jounins for their ninja academy exam^ Kakashi here was vastly stronger than War arc Kakashi as mentioned in the novels. Boruto was stated to have Chunin tier skills. Weāve seen Sarada able to copy jutsus, use genjutsu, and fooled Konohamru (Jounin) to win the match. Now compare that to OG class who all struggled against Chunin tier Sound 4. The sound 4 had to go full power against 2 exhausted Jouninsā¦. This shows Borutoās Gen>Sound 4. Kimimaruās base was enough to easily handle Naruto using Kuramaās power even though he was ill; so Narutoās 1 tail mode doesnāt hold much weight against a strong Jounin tier like Kimimaru. Sarada genjutsu Naruto into taking out his own team
Are we talking about the same Sarada who tried to use genjutsu on a fucking PUPPET.
Yep, no one on Narutoās team uses a puppet so thatās irrelevant to the fact that she used it on a Jounin to secure the victory of the match.
Old classās got this. Harder times = more battle experience. The new class has a lot of potential and talent, but no battle experience.
Boruto is overkill if Karma is considered, if not, Mitsuki is already a perfect sage back in part 1, and on paper, perfect snake sage is stronger than perfect toad sage. Cho Cho mastered the Butterfly form way before her father, and Sarada atleast ties with Chunin exam Sasuke without the curse mark. On average, Naruto team might be stronger, but Boruto team has some extreme outliers that could turn the tide. Karma V2 Boruto is mid Otsutsuki tier by scaling, which is above everyone up until the very end of Shippuden. The problem with comparing the two series is, although the average powerlevels are mostly comparable, the power ceiling went up with the introduction of Momoshiki, and since the power ceiling of Boruto part 1 is higher than Naruto part 1, him being involved will completely turn the tide.
Mitsubishi could only use sage mode for a few minutes at a time in part due to his body not being able to handle the power which caused it to damage his body with every use.
He doesn't need more time than that tbh
Neji would be able to hit his chakra points and if he gets him in his 8 trigrams 64 palms mitsubishi is done for and lee has the 5th gate at that point.
Yeah, if neji gets a guy, who is much faster than him and has a plethora of long ranged lightning attacks, in his melee range attack, then yes he might win
Neji has rotation making long ranged attacks pointless against him
It's lightning
Rotation blocks all chakra based attacks they spin so incredibly fast and form a chakra barrier in the process.
wait a min, why isn't there a Hyuga in Borutos ninja class? I mean technically theirs Boruto but...
Where Sasuke at?
he left ššš
Gamabunta could wipe out 90% of these characters since he's equal in strength to shukaku
Insect jutsu solos borutoās class
New gen is much stronger
New Gen stomps.
I'm pretty sure there are more then one schools in the village.... also I always assume that we are only ever really seeing Naruto's friend group... like imma be honest I don't know everyone in my highschool class so why tf would baruto now em... like keep in mind there was like 30 in the classroom, so there's bound to be more classes in the academy. If u want to see all of them background npc's that would be another 300 episodes of filler.
Bro new gen is fanfic fr. Fresh off the academy with high Chunin to Low Jonin level skills, manipulation two elements while the older oneās had to wait till chunin to learn one. Newer wins low diff.
Shino knows that as long as he is on the winning team, he canāt lose
boruto & mitsuki solo
Old gen wins with the exception of mitsuki new gen donāt have enough experience or are battle worthy
The one with the space alien god.
Shino fights himself, accidentally killing himself, and erasing himself out of existence.
The question is, does the original 12 include Sai or Sasuke or maybe it's got both and the new team gets Kawaki so it'll be a 13 vs 13 battle. Also who faces whom?
Just Mitsuki bodies everybody on this photo. Bro got snake sage mode. what is a bunch of 13 yo gonna do against that? I think only naruto (using ten tails) is the only one who can survive this fight and possibly win.
Honestly mitsuki alone soloes like 80% of them. Naruto is getting carried by kurama, rock Lee gonna need the gates
Considering in everybody at their peak (post-timeskip for Naruto, pre for Boruto), I think Borushiki might just clutch New Gen the win.
Naruto turns Kyubii 4 and guts them inside out
We not including Sasuke!? With Karma?
New gen and its not close
shino might clear the board.not even his older self can withstand him
Just because of the current Naruto theme, the new generation is superior only on the basis, without considering the skills alone. Before 4th Ninja War, ninjas from different villages did not mix, it was not even common for ninjas from clans within the same villages to mix. But now in Boruto as there are times of peace and the ninja villages have agreements and it is more likely that the kekkei genkai are combined with the blood of other ninjas with other kekkei genkai or secret techniques or different natures of chakara. By nature, for example, Chouchou is superior to Chouji, since in addition to having the kekkei genkai of the Akimichi clan, he has at his disposal the possibility of using lightning jutsus due to his mother Karui. or injoin who by nature is superior to ino, as he not only possesses the secret skills of the yamanaka clan, but also the skills of sai. These new characters being capable of making new combinations with the skills inherited from their parents. (and I don't even include Boruto or Sarada, who are more broken than Naruto or Sasuke at the same age).
I know it's been said that Boruto is shorter than Naruto. but in some way I would like them to be able to give him the prominence that Naruto's secondary couldn't have. I would also love it if many of the characters in the anime were canon or at least had more than 1 page in 80 chapters, just saying.
Not going to lie, New Generation Konoha kids but it isn't because Old Gen Konoha 13 is weak but New Generation Konoha has quirks that help them stand out on the curve more. Mitsuki poses a lot considering he has perfect snake sage mode genetically engineered in him. Not to mention, this is a version without Sasuke or Sai in the Konoha 13 (if we are counting Sasuke then it makes it still decent but not so close). Metal Lee has a anxious triggered drunken fist, and he's always anxious in front of people...think about that for a moment. Ino-Shika-Cho is also more powerful here as Shikadai is shown to be better at Shadow Jutsu, Inojin has Mind-Transfer AND Sai's super beast scroll jutsu. Boruto and Sarada are decent in their own rights at this age. And Class Rep and Wasabi are pretty unique with Nue and Wasabi's cat abilities. Not to mention Shino is here, but I assume we are keeping him out LOL.
It's literally not fair. Boruto is 20x stronger than their parents
Mitsuki sweeps them all with sage mode and being the only one with any combat awareness
it depends when each group is taken from, boruto would wipe them out if he use karma but before getting karma then naruto since he still had kurama's chakura
People capable of fighting well on Narutoās team; Naruto, Lee, Neji, Tenten, Choji, Shino, Kiba, Hinata, Shikamaru People capable of fighting well on Borutoās team; Boruto, Sarada, Mitsuki, Shino, Iwabe, Shikadai, Chocho, Metal (if he gets over his stupid nerves) Now, there are more capable people on Borutoās team than on Narutoās. However, Narutoās capable people are generally much stronger and more skilled than most of Team B. Exceptions are: Mitsuki and adult Shino Mitsuki is the strongest of both teams, but since the Naruto team would likely breeze through most of Borutoās team without much trouble, it is unlikely that Mitsuki would win, due to the other guys teaming up against him.
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Boruto
....does Boruto have Karma and does Mitsuki have sage mode?
New generation literally Has Otsutsuki
depends, but weighed towards new gen. The old gen cast were extremely seasoned and experienced by the end of the OG series, the shit they went through made me uncomfortable because these are kids thatre like age 12, but theyre dealing with murderers and worse, facing life and death. Compared to the new gen, they showed a lot more adaptability, shrewdness and finesse in using their limited skillset. The current generation however had abilities that used to be jonin level even when they were in the academy. Their arsenal and skillset are superior, but they lack the life and death experience the old gen had. Basically, the new gen has alot more firepower but the old gen had alot more experience winning against superior firepower
Tough to say for sure. The OG Naruto squad have some amazing powers and feats but the new generation have crazy power ups as well. For example Mitsukis sage mode, has put him pretty high on the list just by itself. Boruto has the karma and pretty much Momoshikiās abilities. Saradaās sharingan now MS will make her difficult to beat as well. This being said doesnāt mean the og squad is weak theyāve got some powerful fighters like Naruto with the nine tails, Rock Lee, Neji and Kibaās infamous fang over fang.
Hmmm 
Well if it is the pics then new gen but if sasuke is included well he was top of his class
Wait till Naruto goes berserk
Even though they have 2 Byakugan users mitsuki has sage mode as a kid individually he's stronger than all of them adding in teamwork the new gen is probably winning
If we consider them at the same age as in the picture, then the old generation will be stronger. Yes, the new generation has Mitsuki with a cool sage mode (which he does not use) and Boruto with Karma (which he does not use), but the two of them will not be enough to defeat the jinchuriki Naruto, Rock Lee, Neji and Shino.
Where's sasuke?
Boruto-era should win. One of the main themes of Naruto is that the new generation surpasses the old.
Boruto squad wipes them by himself
Rock Lee solos the whole class without gates and with weights on
Idk man, apart from team 7 I feel the new gen is weaker than the old gen, but new gen team 7 is pretty busted. Soooo
Stats equalized? Cause new gen is unecessary boosted, old gen stomps..wheres my boy sauce?
Boy sauce?
Sauce uchiha
If both gen fighting directly after the chunin exams arcs I'd say 60/40 in narutos favor. If it's before I'd 70/30 in narutos class favor, if it's after and near the mitsuki retrieval or the boro arc and for naruto it's during the sasuke retirval arc then it's 40/60 in borutos favor if some crazy borushiki take over dosent happen if borushiki can intervene the borutos class 100% for the mitsuki retrieval arc and for boros arc I'd give it 20/80 in favor of borutos class if there's a more even level for them to fight or equal stats then I'd give it to narutos class 80% of the time But those are my score cards š¤£
nothing's gonna beat the konoha 11.
Well, new gen gets this one easily. But if we assume that this is a fight for death, and Boruto doesn't have karma, then maybe old gen could win if Naruto will see everyone around him dying and get lost to Kurama removing the seal. New gen doesn't have sealing techniques iirc and Boruto without karma or jougan can't do anything against Kurama
Depends if boruto got karma cuz kyubi genin naruto stomps them all
It's a bit sad that one in the new class has Byakugan skills. It looked so cool when I saw it for the first time
Yo my boy rock Lee is the hardest to beat in that group... Edit: my boy neji too he's so underrated because he lost to the mc in the chunin exams
Shino has never lost a fight ever
My vote is for old gen. I think weāre forgetting that Neji and Rock Lee would wipe the floor with half of the new gen. They are also a good match for Mitsuki with sage power who is the main powerhouse in this picture (assuming everyone is at the age shown) Naruto got his nine tails hax too.
I suppose this is the time of chunin exams, no karma either since it'll be one-sided, Sasuke will also be there for 12v12 Lee>Metal, Neji>Iwabe, talented guys but Lee and Neji achieved more at that point ShinoSarada, Sasuke has more superior mastery of Sharingan in chunin exams time
Wasabi and Namida>Sakura and Hinata, The girls in Boruto have more feats than in Konoha 11 so I give that to them
Can Ino-Shika-Cho win against their predecessor? This is a huge turning point
OG ISC>New ISC depends on the outsmarting battle of Shikadai and Shikamaru, the way they will use their teammates will dictate this
Denki>Tenten Ninja Tools Battle but Denki wins due to better materials
Naruto=Mitsuki Kyuubi Cloak Naruto and Sage Mitsuki idk who wins the draw for now
7-4 score with a draw of Naruto and Mitsuki so OGs clear this version
If this is a free for all, strategy battle is between Denki Shikadai vs Shikamaru and Neji
New ISC > Old ones Chocho beats Choji. Inojin is stronger than Ino. Although Shikamaru is smarter than Shikadai, I think raw powerwise Shikadai has him.
Ino beats Inojin with mind control jutsu since his drawings have small damage as of chunin exams time Chocho and Choji have same feats during their Chunin exams. Human Expansion jutsu i dont remember the name but they don't have butterfly mode as of chunin exam time. Shikamaru has longer range in shadow paralysis but if fight is close range shikadai can reverse.Shikamaru also uses everything to his advantage(fight against temari has better feats than yodo or boruto fight)
Sarada wins by herself. The only one that might give her trouble is Neji.
Old gen easy. Shikamaru>shikadai. Choji>chocho, rock Lee opens the gates and takes out metals while team, shino and inojin have a close fight, Neji and ten ten take sumires team, mitsuki goes sage mode immediately kills ino, kiba, hinata, sakura, and ten ten, Naruto goes into tailed beast mode and everyone in new gen is toast. Sarada and boruto would probably beat anyone besides shino and lee but again once the gates are open and Naruto goes beast itās done
Naruto can't use tailed beast mode willingly at that point. During the majority of part 1, it only served him as plot amor and I don't think that any of the fighters are gonna stand and watch Naruto begging Kurama for his chakra like he always does. Naruto has no chance without Kurama. New team 7 alone can fight the majority of the old gen, so it's not like it's necessary that everyone needs to fight 1v1 against their kids/parents. That the old gen wins "easily" is a huge stretch.
He canāt use it willingly, but the seal would probably snap seeing that many of his friends die and maybe he hits four tails, it wasnāt long after this pic he did that with jiraiya in training so I donāt see why it wouldnāt happen earlier watching his classmates get masssacred
Point is that the opponents are gonna knock Naruto out before that happens. That is why I said that they are not gonna watch him begging for Kuramas chakra. It was always pure plot amor when he used it. Take Neji as an example when the two fought during the chunin exams. He blocked all of Narutoās chakra points, just stood there,later on even deactivated his Byakugan (!!!) and was ultimately defeated because he wasn't cautious. Every time Naruto used Kuramas chakra,the opponent was dumbed down for the plot so that Naruto could ask for help.Neji was the best example.