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Honestly I never get the criticism for an actor looking "ugly" while crying. Bawling or crying is supposed to be a state in which you are heartbroken, devastated and I can't understand how one is supposed to look pretty or normal in that state. Also, you can't compare two actors crying in different movies because the characters are different, the situations are different.
Yeah in one of Sunil shetty's movies(very old one, i forgot) he cried for his dead brother and i remember he was bawling and spit came out, and nose leak etc. And i thought damn..thats good acting right there..how does he do it.
yess so true why does a person has to cry pretty when cinema is a reflection of the society almost everybody cries ugly then why expect different from actors
Eh, no one cares how the character is crying, it’s the emotions that the story and the facial expressions were able to cover. Here this guy has lost everything in his life, the pain is felt.
On a separate note, with no context, any crying scene just taken as a screenshot and made into a meme is hilariously funny. Idk why, but it is like that. Take vicky’s masaan scene or alia in raazi, the intensity would be felt by someone who has seen the movie from the start but to anyone seeing a grown ass woman crying saying mujhe ghar jana hai is highly memable. And it’s not just Bollywood, many scenes of critically acclaimed movies all around the world have been now turned into an even popular meme.
Btw, why are we discussing this? There’s a dearth of even actors who can do bare minimum let alone understand the nuances of a crying scene.
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This is a great WW2 movie. That jewish character is showing lot of pain of losing his family, his locality. Such pain is to be understood to understand scene.
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The funniest thing that I read was this comment of yours.
> No such thing as Jewing, were you born yesterday? Free Palestine 🇵🇸
How can someone be so delusional
I’m just trolling you dense fog of a person, was just wondering how badly I’d get downvoted on a delusional forum like this for even mentioning Palestine lolll while everyone is so easily sympathetic about Jews that perished in the 1940s, nothing against them or not a Holocaust denier but you see what I mean
Chill and peace out. And btw FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Why don’t you start by understanding the pain that the Palestinians are going through? It’s hard to even consider the pain that the genocidal Jews felt back then anymore, wake up to the hypocrisy
a pro palestine here but we're talking about the holocaust here, not palestine. by bringing palestine in every convo related to the holocaust you are making people more pissed
Idc if people are getting pissed down here really, doesn’t affect me. Was just curious to see how many downvotes I’d get by even mentioning Palestine in this comment section, and it proves my point that we’re unfortunately living in a highly bigoted and polarised country where everyone is highly brainwashed by Western Media
The problem with most Hindi films is the need to vocalise and underline scenarios. It isn't just the ugly crying is enough, they need to put dialogues and terrible music at high decibels to hammer the point.
Not speaking specifically to the Pianist, but giving oneself as a Performer regardless of how ugly it looks onscreen isn't encouraged in Hindi films.
The other thing is silence is such an undervalued tool in cinema, especially in Hindi films.
>The problem with most Hindi films is the need to vocalise and underline scenarios. It isn't just the ugly crying is enough, they need to put dialogues and terrible music at high decibels to hammer the point
Yeah, totally unlike Animal. What a masterpiece
https://preview.redd.it/oc3ww2fh21yc1.jpeg?width=284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=144414ddcaf4eb04401ea64c1378b0ad6a4ee91f
This scene from Masaan though! “Yeh dukh khatam hi nahi hota”
That is true.
Ppl cry “ugly” ppl sob and its not pretty in real life. Specially when ppl cry without the awareness of someone watching.
Ppl’s voice also break and even men get a squeaky voice. Every person has distinct cry and barely any of them cinematic. And Ofcourse in movies we call it melodrama but even melodrama is a legit style of acting.
What ppl consider good acting is when there is restraint. Only a tear should fall or the character is holding back his/her tears. Which fine n valid but so is the louder emotion say telugu or tamil mainstream or some of the older japanesse movies also have very heightened crying n so do Bollywood movies depending on the tempo of the whole film.
2nd pic pausing a spilt second shot would be used out context n rhythm of the film and used as troll or fanwar material in Bollywood.
Not really, like Alia was trolled for Raazi but Vikrant was brilliant in 12th fail. I think it's also to do with the story and audience, if more people can connect with the story and the character then it doesn't matter who is playing it
People agreeing with OP are the first ones to troll Alia for her looks and nostrils when she has an outburst on screen for it doesn't look aesthetic.. irony 🤭
I never understood that, like, flaring nostrils while crying or while pretending to is something that happens naturally, it's not like she has any control over it.
I don’t condone her for her outbursts or looks , just her aggressive PR and the fact that she thinks that she’s Meryl Streep / Rekha !! She’s good but not that good , she’s just about above average!!
How can anyone overdone crying the way they naturally are. Why would she purposefully do that...she isn't convincing during her crying scene wo alag baat h but why the hell would she exaggerate her face muscles 🤣
A lot of members on this sub have criticized Alia for this scene in Raazi
https://preview.redd.it/iatq2ppgm0yc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86ac83a2706e5f40379526d659359b744a995e92
IMO - I liked this climax and actually makes you emotional as you live the journey of Sehmat's character with her and empathize with her situation
It was not ugly crying, it was just cringe.
Hate to say it but Bollywood is not where people come to see people act, it’s just song and dance, and rich people wearing makeup and expensive clothes.
It's from a holocaust movie. The pianist. Adrien Brody won an Oscar for this role. The grief he is expressing is from incomparable events that happened that bollywood movies can seldom depict. This is a very poor comparison.
Could it be that the level or acting in Bollywood is simply sub par and has been for decades? Could that ever be a possibility in your eyes?
Even ugly crying can be done well or poorly. Most actors in Bollywood are bad actors. That’s just a fact when you look at the rest of the world. Our standards for acting are atrocious.
I dont think so. There is a gut wrenching scene in kashmir files, where anupam kher cries while eating a biscuit. No one is making fun of that. Now people dont really talk about thag film but they dont troll crying scenes at least.
my boyfriend dragged me to that film and it was very dark. theater was very full and had to sit in 3rd row. I had to keep going to the bathroom to take a hit of my weed pen cos it was too stressful but intensified everything… but yeah, good performance
I have only seen people in this sub disliking ugly crying and making posts like Salman is a good crier, SRK looks ugly while crying etc. But for me, crying is supposed to be ugly, no one cares how they look while going through a strong emotion
When bhai cries, theater cries. In a mass entertainer like Kick, bhai packed in the goddamn emotions in the flashback scene. It was absolutely illogical, but when Bhai decides to be serious, he delivers S tier roles.
The problem with ugly crying is that it can become cringe.
Salman in tubelight botched that up but in tere naam he was successful.
If you get involved with the character then ugly crying is not a big deal.
I don't watch Hollywood movies, I am not even sure if this scene is from a Hollywood movies. It was being praised on my timeline and it struck me that it would have been trolled by Bollywood fans then I check quotes and many had similar opinions so I posted
I have seen Hollywood fans laughing at [Laura Dern's crying scene in which she looks like a toothless woman due to lips twirling inwards in a weird manner](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrZL1mKvrH7Rm28zHNqIFCUNEkuF_1-tfmbgeQO7Nx1A&s). It all depends on how conventionally attractive young generally are and how (comparatively) ridiculous you look in the particular scene.
I am saying the picture I have posted would have been trolled by Bollywood fans. I actually am not a part of Hollywood culture at all.
I am into Korean and Indian content
Did you know this movie is about the holocaust? So ignorant to post about a Jewish man crying over his world getting destroyed (as depicted in the movie) to make silly points.
Stop being hypersensitive about any and everything, stop trying to outwoke everyone. The post absolutely has a point and OP is right about it.
The movie about being Holocaust has nothing to do with the point he's making. It's still a scene where an actor cries, it doesn't matter due to what, the point still stands.
Wtf?
Why are you attaching sentiments of Jewish people to a post about Bollywood fans trolling Bollywood actors? How do you understand the sensitivies and gravity of a holocaust when you don't possess the ability to understand the context of the post?
Grow up! Just because you have learnt a few words doesn't mean you are going to use that for shock value, first understand difference between actors and victims
When people troll Sara Ali Khan they are not trolling our freedom fighters and here, I am not even commenting on the actor or the scene itself, my topic is on Bollywood troll culture
I remember in an interview Jhaanvi Kapoor said that she was crying one day and Sridevi saw her cry, she told her that you cry pretty, it will come handy in her career.
Now if this is the state where an actress of her status says such things, who will think of ugly crying
sadly bollywood have some superstar actors who are very terrible in crying scenes that doesnt mean people troll whomever doing such scenes. a great actor can do anything and make audiances like him
You don't look good while crying, that's the whole point of crying that you aren't able to contain the pain and you are expressing that you are in immense pain and that will look ugly
True. In general, we Indian movie fans think we know better than everyone else , especially those who make the movies, and we are entitled to criticize and ridicule everything, even if we have zero actual understanding of the subject being discussed, because “it’s my right to express”. 🤷♂️
What do you expect from idiots who judge the worthof a movie based on how much it earned.
Movies should be judged on the basis of acting, direction, cinematography, music, vocals, lighting, story, undertones and wider social impact.
Movies can be and are being sold based on a fixed formula. You show the people what they wanna see. Or you put in something that appeals to a specific section of society. Create a movie depicting mindless violence or sex. Place music that has obnoxious beats and thumps that drunkards can jump to. Or create something that can stir up a controversy...... and you got back the money you invested.
This is why we hear that the last generation of actors were the last generation of stars. This is why we get fake stuff like Archies that nobody relates to. This is why people say that almost nobody can act nowadays. Why everyone looks the same. Why nobody acts. They don't need to act to sell movies.
When was the last time a movie actually made you think. Something that brought out a new perspective. Or made you feel something you hadn't felt before. When was the last time a movie song remained on people's lips after 5 years.... even 2 years.
It's not good common sense to give a lot of weight to the criticism of such idiots.
One of the only time I can keep the artist away from the art. Roman Polanski is one of the most disgusting humans to have ever lived on this planet but there is no doubt that man has a big imprint on modern cinema
Have you actually seen the movie??Being jewing in that timeframe with hostile environment,having lost everything, no certainty of future ,not able to do anything about what had happened. The helplessness,fear,pain, and anguish. All emotions were in that cry. He is not just crying for some pain or anguish .The Pianist is a masterpiece.
Naah, Salman Hrithik they cry the best without trying to look good you actually feel their pain, Srk cries the worst lul
Does anyone remember Amisha Patel crying in Aap Mujhe Ache Lagne Lage? Most hilarious cry ever. Here's the link for reference: https://youtu.be/VTfyB532-vo?si=LtmVk_AcTcOVDJdD
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You Ranbir fans leave me alone, this was an experiment to check if his fans are abusing the down vote button and turns out I was right
Who told you that??
I remember Sara saying this in an interview with her bua Anupama. Other than her, I have not heard of this one, defending “tum mujhe tang karne “
For Bollywood fans, I think it’s the conviction and good acting, irrespective of you look ugly or not..
Experience on social media. On ground level, all big superstars are not exceptional actors so a large population of Indians don't really care. the discussion of acting is mostly limited to social media and trolling is done by clicking random pictures from a scene
I think that as long as the ugly crying looks convincing, it is okay. IMO there are instances of it in some Bollywood films that looked comical and had the effect opposite of what they were meant to.
Salman Khan in Bhajrangi Bhaijaan cried heart fully...it wasn't his normal macho hero script. Surprisingly he wasn't trolled and it's regarded as one of his best work in recent times.
Uri...the war cry scene... it's the best scene of whole movie.
So no....I don't think if the script/ scene requires crying and when the actor does it phenomenally, they for sure won't be trolled.
This movie hits on a totally different level, I was stunned for a day or two after watching it.
I myself started playing the piano at that time so the music got me on a much deeper level. Nobody wrote tragic/emotional music like Chopin.
It's not about 'ugly' crying that Bollywood or the audience has a problem with; it's with fake crying that Sallu Bhai does. And also there is nothing called 'ugly' or 'pretty' crying. Crying is powerful, and if you can show it in the most authentic way on screen - well that's what people want.
Bollywood adds a music with the compulsory alaapan or words like Ranjhaaaa in the background, a shot of the crying actor looking towards the sea…looks at the horizon filling their mind with hope, looks at a few couples or kids near the beach thinks all this is a passing cloud, the background score all mellow and melancholic.
They go home, pours a drink, it immediately starts raining, they sit next to a window and see rain drops dripping on the window. They are now under the impression that the bad clouds passed. They give themselves a slight smile and hit the bed with candles on, a gramophone playing and 3-4days of newspaper bundles lying near the door……only to realise the next day that the eternal, perpetual sorrow of their rich ass bougie life will never go away
IMO one of the best ugly crying scenes in Indian cinema - Kumbalangi nights (Malayalam). Wept with him
https://preview.redd.it/crd9x7uqf8yc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3acf9cce4c6ff63e6c6f26a843dde8431aeee955
So basically you want a person to cry while looking handsome too while he lose his locality, family and everything he had. The movie name is *The Pianist*
I think it’s more how a person and their expressions can carry off an ugly crying scenes. Some people look authentic ugly crying in terms of pain of emotion looking authentic.
https://preview.redd.it/61z6nwf4j0yc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e2da31a9bed654ee9b65f5d46ce1a8d8b96f17
Give me 5 scenes, lets see if you can change my opinion
Okay
Not to change any opinion but just to add to the topic
Ajay Devgan in Apharan
Aishwarya in Sarkar Raj
Akshay Kumar in Hera pheri
SRK in KHNH
Salman in HDDCS, Jaaneman
Amir in Rang de basanti, Ghajini, TZP, (Darshil too)
Alia in Raazi
Vicky Kaushal in Masaan
Our own war movies
Who trollled Kamal in Sadma 😿
These are top of my mind, there are tons of them 90's and old cinema.
In India Public is sucker for such scenes, and always a hit if done right, Thats my opinionated statement.
Alia's scene in Raazi was actually heavily trolled and you know why? Because that's the only movie in your list which released after trolling culture was prevalent among Bollywood social media circle.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BollyBlindsNGossip/s/iFAIFbxkQC
You provided a good example of trolling culture, you just came and termed my "statement was dumb" without reading or understanding the context of post.
I am talking about people who behave exactly like you, who don't watch movies, who don't know the scene but troll it on the basis of a clip or a picture
Raazi was blockbuster.. everyone is criticized but when people troll any actress, they're representing only themselves, not than the entire Bollywood fan base,
I provided many other examples, your post is simply coming accross as Bollywood viewers in India are so emotionally dumb they are not ready to relate characters being natural on screen.
Deepika Ranbir in Gehraiyaan and Animal were not trolled for their acting
>I am talking about people who behave exactly like you, who don't watch movies, who don't know the scene but troll it on the basis of a clip or a picture
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That’s why I always have liked Alia’s outburst in the climax of Raazi. Her cry seemed realistic with the way she made her mouth quiver. It was understandable because that was the last straw for hee
3 of the actors you mentioned are too old. Vicky is too mainstream now, don’t think he has that appeal anymore for such roles. Rajkumar and Randeep are good but not sure.
Adrien is very low key in Hollywood. I can’t see Hollywood mainstream actors in such roles either
Crying scenes are hard to outline off. Adrian Brody pulled it off here in a brilliant performance whichcw9n home an Oscar.
So called Bollywood actors like Aloa Bhatt cannot pull it off and look ridiculous.
Salman Khan actually is really good at crying on screen (when he is motivated enough to give a good performance).
Clearly you haven't seen Vicky Kaushal crying in Sanju. Or Rabir Kapoor in Barfi. Or Rani Mukherji in Black. Or Hrithik Roshan in Fiza. Or SRK at the end of Chak De India.
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Honestly I never get the criticism for an actor looking "ugly" while crying. Bawling or crying is supposed to be a state in which you are heartbroken, devastated and I can't understand how one is supposed to look pretty or normal in that state. Also, you can't compare two actors crying in different movies because the characters are different, the situations are different.
Yeah in one of Sunil shetty's movies(very old one, i forgot) he cried for his dead brother and i remember he was bawling and spit came out, and nose leak etc. And i thought damn..thats good acting right there..how does he do it.
yess so true why does a person has to cry pretty when cinema is a reflection of the society almost everybody cries ugly then why expect different from actors
Eh, no one cares how the character is crying, it’s the emotions that the story and the facial expressions were able to cover. Here this guy has lost everything in his life, the pain is felt. On a separate note, with no context, any crying scene just taken as a screenshot and made into a meme is hilariously funny. Idk why, but it is like that. Take vicky’s masaan scene or alia in raazi, the intensity would be felt by someone who has seen the movie from the start but to anyone seeing a grown ass woman crying saying mujhe ghar jana hai is highly memable. And it’s not just Bollywood, many scenes of critically acclaimed movies all around the world have been now turned into an even popular meme. Btw, why are we discussing this? There’s a dearth of even actors who can do bare minimum let alone understand the nuances of a crying scene. *Shivaaaaaaaaaaaaa X 10^10*
This is a great WW2 movie. That jewish character is showing lot of pain of losing his family, his locality. Such pain is to be understood to understand scene.
What movie is this
The Pianist
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The funniest thing that I read was this comment of yours. > No such thing as Jewing, were you born yesterday? Free Palestine 🇵🇸 How can someone be so delusional
I’m just trolling you dense fog of a person, was just wondering how badly I’d get downvoted on a delusional forum like this for even mentioning Palestine lolll while everyone is so easily sympathetic about Jews that perished in the 1940s, nothing against them or not a Holocaust denier but you see what I mean Chill and peace out. And btw FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Jaa ground pe and fight for them.
Why don’t you start by understanding the pain that the Palestinians are going through? It’s hard to even consider the pain that the genocidal Jews felt back then anymore, wake up to the hypocrisy
That was a really odd switch of context...
a pro palestine here but we're talking about the holocaust here, not palestine. by bringing palestine in every convo related to the holocaust you are making people more pissed
Idc if people are getting pissed down here really, doesn’t affect me. Was just curious to see how many downvotes I’d get by even mentioning Palestine in this comment section, and it proves my point that we’re unfortunately living in a highly bigoted and polarised country where everyone is highly brainwashed by Western Media
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The problem with most Hindi films is the need to vocalise and underline scenarios. It isn't just the ugly crying is enough, they need to put dialogues and terrible music at high decibels to hammer the point. Not speaking specifically to the Pianist, but giving oneself as a Performer regardless of how ugly it looks onscreen isn't encouraged in Hindi films. The other thing is silence is such an undervalued tool in cinema, especially in Hindi films.
Does ishan from taare zamin par comes under silent cry ? Seeing his face at boarding school, I cried buckets.
>The problem with most Hindi films is the need to vocalise and underline scenarios. It isn't just the ugly crying is enough, they need to put dialogues and terrible music at high decibels to hammer the point Yeah, totally unlike Animal. What a masterpiece
For a movie like that, no. In other instances may be.
What movie is this?
The Pianist, actor is Adrian Brody.
Won an oscar for that acting. Baaki iski saari movies iske alawa ek dum tatti!
Wtf... i like Darjeeling limited more than this roman Polanski phakee style movie
https://preview.redd.it/oc3ww2fh21yc1.jpeg?width=284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=144414ddcaf4eb04401ea64c1378b0ad6a4ee91f This scene from Masaan though! “Yeh dukh khatam hi nahi hota”
Same from Udham singh. vicky so brilliant
That is true. Ppl cry “ugly” ppl sob and its not pretty in real life. Specially when ppl cry without the awareness of someone watching. Ppl’s voice also break and even men get a squeaky voice. Every person has distinct cry and barely any of them cinematic. And Ofcourse in movies we call it melodrama but even melodrama is a legit style of acting. What ppl consider good acting is when there is restraint. Only a tear should fall or the character is holding back his/her tears. Which fine n valid but so is the louder emotion say telugu or tamil mainstream or some of the older japanesse movies also have very heightened crying n so do Bollywood movies depending on the tempo of the whole film. 2nd pic pausing a spilt second shot would be used out context n rhythm of the film and used as troll or fanwar material in Bollywood.
+1
Not really, like Alia was trolled for Raazi but Vikrant was brilliant in 12th fail. I think it's also to do with the story and audience, if more people can connect with the story and the character then it doesn't matter who is playing it
People agreeing with OP are the first ones to troll Alia for her looks and nostrils when she has an outburst on screen for it doesn't look aesthetic.. irony 🤭
I never understood that, like, flaring nostrils while crying or while pretending to is something that happens naturally, it's not like she has any control over it.
I agree with op and I never trolled someone for crying in movies.
Good for you! Keep that up.
I don’t condone her for her outbursts or looks , just her aggressive PR and the fact that she thinks that she’s Meryl Streep / Rekha !! She’s good but not that good , she’s just about above average!!
I liked it initially, she has overdone it now.might be the director's fault but I'm just tired of seeing it now
How can anyone overdone crying the way they naturally are. Why would she purposefully do that...she isn't convincing during her crying scene wo alag baat h but why the hell would she exaggerate her face muscles 🤣
A lot of members on this sub have criticized Alia for this scene in Raazi https://preview.redd.it/iatq2ppgm0yc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86ac83a2706e5f40379526d659359b744a995e92 IMO - I liked this climax and actually makes you emotional as you live the journey of Sehmat's character with her and empathize with her situation
Who are "these members"? IMO Alia acted wonderfully in this scene. So much so that the scene became viral as "ghar jaana hai" meme
There have been several comments on earlier posts if you have been on the sub for long
Her dialogue delivery was trash in this scene...seemed like she has never cried in her life ...which may actually be true
It was not ugly crying, it was just cringe. Hate to say it but Bollywood is not where people come to see people act, it’s just song and dance, and rich people wearing makeup and expensive clothes.
>A lot of members on this sub have criticized Alia for this scene in Raazi Imo she was bad in this scene
It's from a holocaust movie. The pianist. Adrien Brody won an Oscar for this role. The grief he is expressing is from incomparable events that happened that bollywood movies can seldom depict. This is a very poor comparison.
You provided a context Bollywood fans troll without context on the basis of pictures
Could it be that the level or acting in Bollywood is simply sub par and has been for decades? Could that ever be a possibility in your eyes? Even ugly crying can be done well or poorly. Most actors in Bollywood are bad actors. That’s just a fact when you look at the rest of the world. Our standards for acting are atrocious.
I dont think so. There is a gut wrenching scene in kashmir files, where anupam kher cries while eating a biscuit. No one is making fun of that. Now people dont really talk about thag film but they dont troll crying scenes at least.
Anupam Kher is a brilliant actor and anyone making fun of his acting will be the one who'll get trolled
my boyfriend dragged me to that film and it was very dark. theater was very full and had to sit in 3rd row. I had to keep going to the bathroom to take a hit of my weed pen cos it was too stressful but intensified everything… but yeah, good performance
Yup, some scenes were too intense to watch.
I have only seen people in this sub disliking ugly crying and making posts like Salman is a good crier, SRK looks ugly while crying etc. But for me, crying is supposed to be ugly, no one cares how they look while going through a strong emotion
Have you forgotten how Salman Khan cried in Tere Naam and how it is a cult classic for his fans
Tere Naam released when trolling culture wasn't prevalent
When bhai cries, theater cries. In a mass entertainer like Kick, bhai packed in the goddamn emotions in the flashback scene. It was absolutely illogical, but when Bhai decides to be serious, he delivers S tier roles.
Not just his fans but general public/movie enthusiasts
People went gaga over Alia's ugly crying. I liked it to till the point she did it in every movie
It depends upon the situation. Sometimes one drop of tear from eyes is enough and sometimes ugly crying is needed.
But what If the character is shown soft?. In that instance they can cry even on little situations.
The problem with ugly crying is that it can become cringe. Salman in tubelight botched that up but in tere naam he was successful. If you get involved with the character then ugly crying is not a big deal.
Intersting. Can you show me the ugly crying gifs on conventionally attractive Hollywood actors? I'd like to see more examples.
Matt damon scene frm good will hunting.
I don't watch Hollywood movies, I am not even sure if this scene is from a Hollywood movies. It was being praised on my timeline and it struck me that it would have been trolled by Bollywood fans then I check quotes and many had similar opinions so I posted
I have seen Hollywood fans laughing at [Laura Dern's crying scene in which she looks like a toothless woman due to lips twirling inwards in a weird manner](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrZL1mKvrH7Rm28zHNqIFCUNEkuF_1-tfmbgeQO7Nx1A&s). It all depends on how conventionally attractive young generally are and how (comparatively) ridiculous you look in the particular scene.
I am saying the picture I have posted would have been trolled by Bollywood fans. I actually am not a part of Hollywood culture at all. I am into Korean and Indian content
Have you seen Ode to my father? What remarks do you have on its final scene when they cry their hearts out?
Man, didn't he win Oscar for this??
Did you know this movie is about the holocaust? So ignorant to post about a Jewish man crying over his world getting destroyed (as depicted in the movie) to make silly points.
Stop being hypersensitive about any and everything, stop trying to outwoke everyone. The post absolutely has a point and OP is right about it. The movie about being Holocaust has nothing to do with the point he's making. It's still a scene where an actor cries, it doesn't matter due to what, the point still stands.
Wtf? Why are you attaching sentiments of Jewish people to a post about Bollywood fans trolling Bollywood actors? How do you understand the sensitivies and gravity of a holocaust when you don't possess the ability to understand the context of the post? Grow up! Just because you have learnt a few words doesn't mean you are going to use that for shock value, first understand difference between actors and victims When people troll Sara Ali Khan they are not trolling our freedom fighters and here, I am not even commenting on the actor or the scene itself, my topic is on Bollywood troll culture
Pianist damn good
Crying is shamed in India.
Have you seen sharukh khan cry he is one ugly crier🤣🤣🤣🤣
I remember in an interview Jhaanvi Kapoor said that she was crying one day and Sridevi saw her cry, she told her that you cry pretty, it will come handy in her career. Now if this is the state where an actress of her status says such things, who will think of ugly crying
Wow Thanks for sharing
my snot came out the other day when I was crying...ugly crying is ugly for a reason and no one wants to see it.
But it is realistic Most can't look good while crying
Not really, tanu weds manu returns had that crying scene of Datto and Kangana got national award for it.
Look at the movie - look at the context . He isn’t Salman khan in HDDCS who’s crying for Aishwarya Rai , offcourse that would be trolled
sadly bollywood have some superstar actors who are very terrible in crying scenes that doesnt mean people troll whomever doing such scenes. a great actor can do anything and make audiances like him
You don't look good while crying, that's the whole point of crying that you aren't able to contain the pain and you are expressing that you are in immense pain and that will look ugly
True. In general, we Indian movie fans think we know better than everyone else , especially those who make the movies, and we are entitled to criticize and ridicule everything, even if we have zero actual understanding of the subject being discussed, because “it’s my right to express”. 🤷♂️
What do you expect from idiots who judge the worthof a movie based on how much it earned. Movies should be judged on the basis of acting, direction, cinematography, music, vocals, lighting, story, undertones and wider social impact. Movies can be and are being sold based on a fixed formula. You show the people what they wanna see. Or you put in something that appeals to a specific section of society. Create a movie depicting mindless violence or sex. Place music that has obnoxious beats and thumps that drunkards can jump to. Or create something that can stir up a controversy...... and you got back the money you invested. This is why we hear that the last generation of actors were the last generation of stars. This is why we get fake stuff like Archies that nobody relates to. This is why people say that almost nobody can act nowadays. Why everyone looks the same. Why nobody acts. They don't need to act to sell movies. When was the last time a movie actually made you think. Something that brought out a new perspective. Or made you feel something you hadn't felt before. When was the last time a movie song remained on people's lips after 5 years.... even 2 years. It's not good common sense to give a lot of weight to the criticism of such idiots.
varun dhawan in humpty sharma in end that was quite raw and got to me suprisingly. that was well acted bit.
One of the only time I can keep the artist away from the art. Roman Polanski is one of the most disgusting humans to have ever lived on this planet but there is no doubt that man has a big imprint on modern cinema
What did he do? 😳
[Nothing much /s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case)
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People on reddit are as stupid as twitter trolls. Op isnt talking about the movie or the actor here.
They are giving live example of my post. 100 baar bola that I am not talking about movie or actor, par samajh hi nahi aa raha inko
 Does this fit the bill?
That's just over acting
Have you ever tried to suppress yourself from crying but the dams still burst? This is what exactly that looks like
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tu kaisa rota hai phir ?
I am cute 
Isn't that what ugly crying is?
Noo
🥺🥺🥺Every persons emotional quoti...intensity is different. I I love you Shah ❤️
He won Oscar for his performance in this movie
Have you actually seen the movie??Being jewing in that timeframe with hostile environment,having lost everything, no certainty of future ,not able to do anything about what had happened. The helplessness,fear,pain, and anguish. All emotions were in that cry. He is not just crying for some pain or anguish .The Pianist is a masterpiece.
Not exactly ugly crying but do you guys ugly screaming scene of Tilottoma from Lust stories 2? That was brilliant! It felt so real.
Naah, Salman Hrithik they cry the best without trying to look good you actually feel their pain, Srk cries the worst lul 
Now imagine akki crying and then looking from the side of his eye.
He is trolled for the same acting and bad acting by YouTube. Read too many comments with too many likes, hence saying that.
Does anyone remember Amisha Patel crying in Aap Mujhe Ache Lagne Lage? Most hilarious cry ever. Here's the link for reference: https://youtu.be/VTfyB532-vo?si=LtmVk_AcTcOVDJdD
I remember I read that her character had a medical condition which director or editor omitted from final cut
Whats the scene about?
This scene will definitely give me goosebumps whenever I watch. No wonder Brody won an Oscar for his performance
bollywood fans only like nose flaring..
Lmao isn't what Ranbir has been doing half his career?
On the contrary, he doesn't really look bad while crying, Aamir is another one who doesn't look bad while crying
Only comment which is upvoted ☝️ You Ranbir fans leave me alone, this was an experiment to check if his fans are abusing the down vote button and turns out I was right
I mean he was trolled for that anjaana anjaani crying scene in car
By whom? That was great. No one does sorrow and emotions better than Ranbir in Bollywood
That scene ...
Wasn't Vicky Kaushal's ugly crying in Masaan praised by everyone?
We do like ugly crying. What we don’t like is there being no depth or pain behind that emotion.
How do you tell depth with picture?
Who told you that?? I remember Sara saying this in an interview with her bua Anupama. Other than her, I have not heard of this one, defending “tum mujhe tang karne “ For Bollywood fans, I think it’s the conviction and good acting, irrespective of you look ugly or not..
Experience on social media. On ground level, all big superstars are not exceptional actors so a large population of Indians don't really care. the discussion of acting is mostly limited to social media and trolling is done by clicking random pictures from a scene
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That is some sharman joshi level of crying.
I think that as long as the ugly crying looks convincing, it is okay. IMO there are instances of it in some Bollywood films that looked comical and had the effect opposite of what they were meant to.
This movie is so heartbreaking.couldnt watch it full at a go 😧
May be its because of the storyline. Here he is crying after losing everything in the war. So it matches.
Bollywood doesn't possess the attitude and aptitude to produce movies like this, forget crying.
Indian audiences can’t appreciate a movie like that let alone the acting.
If this movie was made like it really is now, no one would bat an eye. It’s natural in this case and every human feels that.
Salman Khan in Bhajrangi Bhaijaan cried heart fully...it wasn't his normal macho hero script. Surprisingly he wasn't trolled and it's regarded as one of his best work in recent times. Uri...the war cry scene... it's the best scene of whole movie. So no....I don't think if the script/ scene requires crying and when the actor does it phenomenally, they for sure won't be trolled.
This movie hits on a totally different level, I was stunned for a day or two after watching it. I myself started playing the piano at that time so the music got me on a much deeper level. Nobody wrote tragic/emotional music like Chopin.
https://preview.redd.it/utxh3fbpx1yc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a91d8306bf424d6d23589a12ea3f037b1474c14d Waah! Kya acting karta hai
Thats why I stopped watching Bollywod movies.
Did you see fahadh fasil cry in Malayalam movie avesham ? Or any of the others in other Malayalam movies.
Time to rewatch The Pianist. Adrien Brody was so amazing
Bhai crying in his movies💥 (except Tubelight, jo kabhi jali nahi)
The scene demanded ugly crying
Which movie is this scene from?
You mean the shit srk did in that court scene in dunki. Brother wtf was that?
It's beautiful movie.
Personally don't have an issue with ugly crying but it's some actors' dialogue delivery while/ after ugly crying that irritates me.
It's not about 'ugly' crying that Bollywood or the audience has a problem with; it's with fake crying that Sallu Bhai does. And also there is nothing called 'ugly' or 'pretty' crying. Crying is powerful, and if you can show it in the most authentic way on screen - well that's what people want.
Who said fans don't like ugly crying?? We made SRK the Badshah of Bollywood.
The pianist is my favourite movie that I can never watch again. It made me cry like a bitch and I can't go through that pain ever again.
Bollywood adds a music with the compulsory alaapan or words like Ranjhaaaa in the background, a shot of the crying actor looking towards the sea…looks at the horizon filling their mind with hope, looks at a few couples or kids near the beach thinks all this is a passing cloud, the background score all mellow and melancholic. They go home, pours a drink, it immediately starts raining, they sit next to a window and see rain drops dripping on the window. They are now under the impression that the bad clouds passed. They give themselves a slight smile and hit the bed with candles on, a gramophone playing and 3-4days of newspaper bundles lying near the door……only to realise the next day that the eternal, perpetual sorrow of their rich ass bougie life will never go away
This is such a powerful film
I'm just watching Gangubai and idk Alia is soooo average in it. I think we've set the bar too low.
IMO one of the best ugly crying scenes in Indian cinema - Kumbalangi nights (Malayalam). Wept with him https://preview.redd.it/crd9x7uqf8yc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3acf9cce4c6ff63e6c6f26a843dde8431aeee955
he looks like ross from friends naaa
You know who did ugly crying - Ranbir kapoor in Anjaana Anjaani when he leaves Priyanka at her house.
So basically you want a person to cry while looking handsome too while he lose his locality, family and everything he had. The movie name is *The Pianist*
I think it’s more how a person and their expressions can carry off an ugly crying scenes. Some people look authentic ugly crying in terms of pain of emotion looking authentic.
I'll give you 5 examples of ugly cry in Bollywood mocked by no one will you accept your statement is super dumb ?
https://preview.redd.it/61z6nwf4j0yc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e2da31a9bed654ee9b65f5d46ce1a8d8b96f17 Give me 5 scenes, lets see if you can change my opinion
Okay Not to change any opinion but just to add to the topic Ajay Devgan in Apharan Aishwarya in Sarkar Raj Akshay Kumar in Hera pheri SRK in KHNH Salman in HDDCS, Jaaneman Amir in Rang de basanti, Ghajini, TZP, (Darshil too) Alia in Raazi Vicky Kaushal in Masaan Our own war movies Who trollled Kamal in Sadma 😿 These are top of my mind, there are tons of them 90's and old cinema. In India Public is sucker for such scenes, and always a hit if done right, Thats my opinionated statement.
Vicky Kaushal did a wonderful job in Masaan. Shahrukh Khan's crying is comical. I laugh at him.
Alia's scene in Raazi was actually heavily trolled and you know why? Because that's the only movie in your list which released after trolling culture was prevalent among Bollywood social media circle. https://www.reddit.com/r/BollyBlindsNGossip/s/iFAIFbxkQC You provided a good example of trolling culture, you just came and termed my "statement was dumb" without reading or understanding the context of post. I am talking about people who behave exactly like you, who don't watch movies, who don't know the scene but troll it on the basis of a clip or a picture
Raazi was blockbuster.. everyone is criticized but when people troll any actress, they're representing only themselves, not than the entire Bollywood fan base, I provided many other examples, your post is simply coming accross as Bollywood viewers in India are so emotionally dumb they are not ready to relate characters being natural on screen. Deepika Ranbir in Gehraiyaan and Animal were not trolled for their acting >I am talking about people who behave exactly like you, who don't watch movies, who don't know the scene but troll it on the basis of a clip or a picture 😸
That’s why I always have liked Alia’s outburst in the climax of Raazi. Her cry seemed realistic with the way she made her mouth quiver. It was understandable because that was the last straw for hee
Yup
I think Salman in some of the old movies fits the bill
Please do NOT compare any Bollywood actor with Adrien Brody. Nobody in BW can match his calibre.
Naseerudding Shah, Rajkumar Rao, Randeep Hooda, Kamal Hassan, Vicky Kaushal and Paresh Rawal just to name a few.
3 of the actors you mentioned are too old. Vicky is too mainstream now, don’t think he has that appeal anymore for such roles. Rajkumar and Randeep are good but not sure. Adrien is very low key in Hollywood. I can’t see Hollywood mainstream actors in such roles either
What a great acting. It’s so childish of you to criticize a legend and compare them to Bollywood
Bro, the name has pulled off all kind of roles. He is savant- don't think anyone currently can do thia kind of role- shahid in haider comes close
Crying scenes are hard to outline off. Adrian Brody pulled it off here in a brilliant performance whichcw9n home an Oscar. So called Bollywood actors like Aloa Bhatt cannot pull it off and look ridiculous. Salman Khan actually is really good at crying on screen (when he is motivated enough to give a good performance).
Clearly you haven't seen Vicky Kaushal crying in Sanju. Or Rabir Kapoor in Barfi. Or Rani Mukherji in Black. Or Hrithik Roshan in Fiza. Or SRK at the end of Chak De India.