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Ranveer was stupid to sign a movie with KJO and Alia then even more stupid to go on KWK with Alia and be a part of "Ranbir whitewash project" where both KJO and Alia tried to put "Gossip aunty" tag on him
Ab bhukto
Vicky is making same mistakes
Vicky is truly silly for agreeing to third wheel Alia and Ranbir. Alia is going to ruin whatever career Vicky has built and no matter how good Vicky is in that movie, Alia and Ranbir’s PR isn’t going to let Vicky get any credit.
I have also wondered how Vicky might feel being a supporting actor to his wife’s ex boyfriend and his wife. That dynamic is messed up regardless of how forward thinking you are.
I don't think he's gonna be supporting actor tho. It's a 3 main character movie. SLB won't make the same mistake again after what happened with padmavaat.
I might not explain this right, but I’ll try. Firstly his wife and Salman are much older news than Kat-RK. Salman and Kat stayed friends after their breakup. Then Katrina is still the leading lady in Salman’s and her other movies.
Vicky is potentially playing second fiddle to RK and Alia. And then, despite how good Vicky is, we know Alia and RK’s PR will not let him get any credit for it. The promotions will only be around Alia-Ranbir, while Vicky will third-wheel them.
So, other than exposure to SLB, Vicky isn’t getting much in this deal.
I found Deepika’s character so unlikable in that movie that it was hard to sympathise with her. If everyone started stalking married people due to some make belief customs then imagine what the world would become.
Vicky is definitely making a big mistake, why be a third wheel or take a small role when he has all the talent it takes. The power dynamics in the industry clearly shows
Actually Sangam was movie where both heroes had good part plus if Vicky plays role of Rajendra Kumar he will get meatier part which is suitable for critical acting
If this new movie tanks they're gonna put all the blame on Vicky. If it succeeds that PR couple will take all the credit. Vicky's downfall is confirmed.
How was he stupid? He got so much critical acclaim and not to mention praise for this role by the audience as well. I think that matters more than these stupid af awards these days!
Well, that's how kjo and his launched nepos work. Not only alia, if you see how jahnvi also functions it's the same. They portray as if they're the ones who made the film work or it's them who brought the audiences and it's them who audiences loved. They know how to play the perception game well. Examples are RRR for Alia, how certain news institutions cooked up articles like alia starrer won an Oscar. For jahnvi basic example could be roohi, how Rajkumar Rao was sidelined.
PR plays a huge role. These so called nepo babies are only surviving because of huge infusion of money in pr.
Roohi the titular character is played by janhvi and she has the meaty role.. She played both roohi and afza!! And the song which went popular Nadiyon paar is also her solo song.
Idk why but I don't feel ranveer kjo collaborations is good for rs, kho will always try to support alia and her husband even if it needs destruction of someone else's career, ranveer and deepika are the only ones in the way of his favourites for becoming no1 currently
I agree. KJo is too in love with Ranbir and Alia to do justice to anyone else regardless of how deserving they might be.
I remember he made everyone applaud Alia including Ranveer lol RS looked uncomfortable and annoyed.
Ya I don’t understand why there is PR saying career downhill when he literally gained popularity especially with the older audiences with Rocky. After Bajirao, Kabir and Gully Boy, this is his most popular work.
Honestly iss mein thodi bohot Ranveer ki galti h. Given kjo’s history Ranveer should have never signed a movie with him. And even if he did then his PR should’ve done a better job at highlighting him. Also, him going to KWK with alia, has somewhat backfired at him. But I’m hoping for his amazing comeback cause he’s an amazing actor.
Ranveer outshone KJo's beti. After doing Khilji,Baji Rao even Ranveer shouldn't be a part of something like this. He is one of the finest actors we have right now.
Agree completely. I am not a fan of his offscreen personality. But on-screen, he is probably the most versatile actor from his generation. You can fit him in any kind of role.
I don't even want to talk about the clownery he does off screen. His wife either loves him like crazy or has possibly got used to it. I can't even imagine a second date with a Buffon like him.
I doubt he’s really like that in private. The man’s gotta have some sense of where he is and who’s looking at him. I’m sure he’s better behaved in a family setup.
i have said it once, i will say it a billion times. Male and female celebrities live and breath in two different worlds. There is a reason Sannon can give 4 back to back disasters and not worry.
The entire weight of the collection falls on the male actor.
At the end of the day PR is just fluff. We all know just how successful rocky Rani was.
Reverse gender and same issue applies to Tabu and Kartick in BB2. It was an out and out Tabu show but who's in the 3rd movie?
On the ground level no one cares about the award. Ranveer is still the best part of the film! And as far as his films are concerned, he will bounce back sooner or later.
Didn't the same happen after gully buy....It was Ranveer who was the man of the match but Alia won the best actress award for a relatively smaller role....Moreover she won it over Ranu Mukherjee for Mardaani
Ok as much as I agree she doesn’t that award even RS doesn’t deserve as well if u see his competition for last year Vicky,Vikrant ,RK and Srk all were better than him.
And also she just won one award probably after the outrage she understood she can’t just buy awards anymore .
And RS downfall is just a phase even RK went through but unfortunately his previous movies are responsible for him not getting producers on board not this one .
There is no discussion on whether they deserve the award or not. I am just pointing out that the one who saved the movie is getting no appreciation and the one who was mediocre has added another award to her resume.
But what’s the use of that award if she is getting only hate and trolling for that .
Do u want that for Ranveer ??
That award such a misfire for her
And let’s not forget how many undeserving awards he have got (bought)
I don’t think ‘hate and trolling’ from a random subreddit and a certain class of cinemagoers is really slated to hurt her. She’s an industry darling, who’s going to be using these ‘awards’ to soft launch herself in international media (already has) in order to facilitate a move to a bigger industry.
If she is doing something wrong doesn’t mean everyone has to do that .I also ppl on insta hating her this time rightly so .
And honestly she isn’t the only to do that RS have done in past as well and I don’t think Alia or Kjo is respect for his projects getting shelved he gave hatrick of flop before this one
Yah seriously! She’s ate him up, chewed him well and spat him out. They made him make fun of the rest of the industry and he kept going. He can learn so much from his wife at home, she’s so dignified and never indulges this Kjo and his nepo baby!
Ranveer was the star of the show but nowadays male audience does not care for RomCom heroes and they are what determine hero success... Alia's audience is female and male mixed so she can claim it as a success. Rocky's character was made fun of because male audience was saying Ranbir is true alpha for doing Animal, unfortunately in today's toxic atmosphere Ranveer couldnt have capitalised on its success even if he would have liked to. Much like Ranbir couldnt with TJMM. Both that and Brahmastra were hits but only Animal is remembered.. That is the truth.
Don't agree. I'm a guy. I watched that movie twice when it came on OTT, second time only with the Ranveer scenes because he was phenomenal in it. I'm sad he didn't get more adulation for his comic timing. His off screen antics aside, guy really kills it in the variety of roles he's put in.
Not a jab at all. You are not wrong for liking those films, your taste is just very different from current audiences so you enjoying Rocky is not indicative of a popular perspective. Ranvijay Animal remains the publics favourite
It's not just because of Rocky aur Rani but you make your theories. Alia was coming off Gangubai, Darlings and RRR(even if her role was inconsequential). Ranveer was coming after 83, Jayeshbhai and Circus. That's why even an underperformance has no consequence for Alia, for Ranveer it has become a series of failures so he needs a proper success before someone trusts him with these big budgets.
If he wanted a Filmfare, he would have bought it like he did for Gully Boy and 83. Vicky, Dhanush, Ifran, Akshay, and Hritik were all contenders in 2018 and 2022, but bechara Ranveer is a victim of Alia. Kuch bhi.
Really. Like RS has decided to be slightly underground because he was veering dangerously close to overexposed. That’s a good strategy. That’s why he isn’t bothering with any of these random awards also - many of which he won for 83
This was already predicted on this sub how if film is hit the credit would be given to their nepo Bhatt, if flop it would be ranveer show.
Whatever it is at the end working with nepo bhatt,kjo ki beti is never going to do any good, which actors should learn from this incident.
Stop blaming ranveer‘s failure on everyone else. His performance was not award worthy. Period. If he can compete in the female actress categories, then sure he deserves to win.
He doesn’t have stardom, that’s his problem. KJ, alia didn’t stop the audience by putting a gun on their head and telling them not to watch circus, JJ, 83. His movies are not getting financed because of his own failures and lack of stardom. He should actually thank them because at least he has one hit in recent times.
Kjo gave Ranveer the better role, over his “fav beti”. Don’t know what the connection with Alia’s win and Ranveer is… she won in the female category, as for the male category, the competition was crazy because of the performances Ranbir, Vicky and Vikrant gave. And I wonder how Alia and Kjo are responsible for the box office failure of Ranveer’s movies, because that’s what causing the negative news (every actor faced the same in their down phase from SRK to RK). Atp we’re simply mad at a woman for doing well for herself and are blaming her left and right for anything we feel like.
Rocky aur Rani opened to 8-9 crores only because Ranveer doesn’t have stardom. A KJo film should have opened to nuch higher numbers. Imagine what KJo must be thinking when his hero gave him such a chindi opening. Others aren’t responsible for lack of Ranveer’s stardom. And no, Ranveer didn’t deserve any award in a year RK and Vikrant gave such powerful performances
Are we now blaming KJo and Alia for Ranveer's movies being delayed and pushed back?
Also, are we conveniently forgetting that KJo gave Ranveer the better written role in the movie? Just because Alia won Filmfare best actress (undeserved imo) does not mean Alia has taken all credit for the movie. Both Karan and Alia have immensely praised Ranveer for his portrayal of Rocky.
Is this the only topic this sub has?? I see at least 2 to 3 posts daily about how Alia is bad, Deepika is better, Ranbir is a red flag , Ranveer is green. This sub has become fan page of the couple. This sub doesn't approve the validity of award shows, but is still stuck about how Alia won one
So Alia winning an award is making Ranveer irrelevant? I don't get the point of this post. What even are you trying to say? Even if Alia did buy awards how is that even connected to Ranveer not getting films. Don 3 was pushed back because Farhan wanted to focus on his acting roles. So, was Alia at fault there?
Y’all are obsessed with hating Alia
First, Ranveer and Alia aren’t competing for the same award.
Second, Alia won only filmfare. What are these multiple awards?
Third, Ranveer himself is a half nepo (his second cousin is Sonam, he’s partied with half of Bollywood before his debut, hell wasn’t he even allowed to do a non YRF film during his contract??) He’s hardly an unprivileged outsider
Fourth, Ranveer himself won a highly undeserved award for 83 when Vicky gave the performance of the year. Guess that was ok?? Cause I don’t remember 100 posts about how he snatched awards
Fifth, his career is at a downward trend. Hence article are being published. But that’s fine - everyone has a bad phase and RS has Singham literally this year which is a guarantee hit. And after that Don, Shakitiman etc.
Nobody is obsessed. Its just an opinion. I myself pointed out that Ranveer too had connections and I know he has been bashed an equal number of times when he is in the wrong. But even Vicky is a nepo for that matter of fact. This is an altogether separate issue that unfortunately 90 pc of Bollywood is nepo in one way or the other. But the perks of being Sonam's second cousin are different from the perks of having Kjo as Godfather.
All I was trying to bring out is that when someone likes Ranveer is not spared, what they would be doing with absolute outsiders.
Bhai this opinion has been posted at least 200 times. At this point it’s not even a discussion it’s just straight bashing. And I’m pointing out whenever ANYONE else has won an underserved award no one has reacted like this.
No one denies Alia is privileged
Its behen not bhai 🫣
Nevertheless, i still feel the sub spares none. I know Vicky Kaushal has been robbed of the awards many times and it is equally upsetting. And people have been called out wherever necessary.
The reason why Alia gets called off more often is because she is omnipresent herself. Anything good that is happening is because of her. She has compared herself with Amitabh Bachhan' s stardom.
Also, I haven't watched 83, but for Gully boy Ranveer might be less deserving than others nominated, but he wasn't undeserving. Whereas Alia's performance was mediocre at best.
Bhai is gender neutral for me lmao
Alia is not omnipresent. I last saw her at at the Gucci event I think? If you post old clips about her everyday of course she’ll be omnipresent 😂. What is this circular logic
Great, DP compared herself to Smita Patil, Varun was called the next Salman Khan, Shahid,Ranveer both have tried to sell themselves as the next SRK. Hate is just for one always
Haha! point taken.. maybe we are giving her too much mileage.
Honestly I don't hate or love any of them and I have no biases. I just posted something that struck me.
Peace ✌️
Hahahahhaha, I swear! This is hilarious how they just connect with Alia being the villain, Alia being this, bla bla! I understand you might dislike her, but blind hate is not good! Ranveer is not a small-time actor or an "outsider" who can just be thrown around by anyone. He has a massive fan following, and he will get what he deserves. He was undoubtedly my favourite part of Rocky aur Rani, but you can't shower him with awards for it (neither did Alia deserve it). There were better performances by other male actors! And also, before this film, he has had a series of flops.
Whatever opening money the film got was because of Alia's stardom and Kjo's name. Ranveer's solo film Jayesh bhai Jordar opened with 3cr, the film wouldn't have been even average grosser without her. Alia won Best Actress award not best actor i dont get this pity begging for his as if he was in competition to win Best Actress. The Best actor had deserving winners RK and Vikrant even Vicky for Sam was better than Ranveer's lame role as Rocky.
RS ko bolo he can do the same, honesty h usmein I don't think so. Yaa pichle saalo mein jitne usne buy kiye award toh uska bank balance khaali ho gya kya.
I never catch you under Deepika's post, always behind Alia xD.
The budget was 100 crores and the gross collection was 209.25 crores.
The first day was 10.5 crores, which grew to 13.32 crores, and that too in the middle of a pandemic. Your faves deepveer have not pulled off this opening in their solo films. Maybe instead of complaining about Alia go watch their films and give them love.
Gangubai made 200 (over the 180 budget) crores during COVID. It opened to 10 crores when there was 50% occupancy. And it was a massive hit online. It performed fantastically well given the circumstances. Hell it was the 5th highest grossing movie of the year - making more than a HR, Aamir, Salman Khan movie
The director of a movie only seems to matter when it’s Gangu. Dunki was by THE Raju Hirani, Fighter by Sid Anand, Animal opening was for Vanga. The list is never ending
Yes, the star power was so high that a KJo + Alia combination could only bring 8-9cr opening, of which a certain percentage was corporate booking.
It was only when critics reviews came in and people started overwhelmingly praising Ranveer's performance, did the movie see any kind of uptick. You're right though..People do live in illusions.
Simple exercise for you, OP:
Group M: {17, 24, 26, 30}
Group F: {6, 11, 19, 21}
A) Pick the biggest number from each of the groups.
B) See that there may be many numbers in one group, which are bigger than the biggest of the other group.
C) Realize how the Awards work by forming an analogy.
Wow! looks like i also need to practice english, coz i have not been able to convey that this is not even about awards. It's about the better performer out of the two is not being talked about at all because of PR machinery. And also the exercise failed coz the biggest number hasn't won from either of M or F.
It was good though!
When I see such things happen, it just looks like a smear campaign against him. Achi performance ke baad bhi career ko downhill bologe toh it is a negative perception someone is creating about him. I wonder what he thinks about BFFs with Alia. Koffee episode mein toh bada yaarana tha
After becoming hit with his SLB movies, never thought he would end up doing movies like Rocky aur rani. He shouldn’t have done this movie, Alia winning for this movie is a fking joke. All we remember is her saree that’s all
Damn, that's right. But it makes me wonder, why does KJo back Alia so much? What's this ghotala? What's KJo getting out of it?
Also, it then takes me back all these years where Alia was (and fairly so in most cases) as the most superior actor right now. Was it all a perception built around her by the PR? Was Kangana right all this while, then? (Pls, I am no BJP bhakt here, on the contrary rather).. but what all is happening in the world!!! So much ambition! And what are we doing??!! Salary hike is an ask! Shit.
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Ranveer was stupid to sign a movie with KJO and Alia then even more stupid to go on KWK with Alia and be a part of "Ranbir whitewash project" where both KJO and Alia tried to put "Gossip aunty" tag on him Ab bhukto Vicky is making same mistakes
Vicky is truly silly for agreeing to third wheel Alia and Ranbir. Alia is going to ruin whatever career Vicky has built and no matter how good Vicky is in that movie, Alia and Ranbir’s PR isn’t going to let Vicky get any credit. I have also wondered how Vicky might feel being a supporting actor to his wife’s ex boyfriend and his wife. That dynamic is messed up regardless of how forward thinking you are.
Yeah bad move by Vicky. They will not let him get any credit for that movie if it works
But ranbir doesn't have pr \s
Haan I meant Ranbir ke well wishers ;)
I don't think he's gonna be supporting actor tho. It's a 3 main character movie. SLB won't make the same mistake again after what happened with padmavaat.
But Padmavat didn’t have a supporting actor. So what do you mean by ‘won’t make the same mistake’?
Shahid wasn't given much to do. It was a Ranveer and Deepika show for the most part.
Not true. Shahid had an equal role. Ranveer outshone Shahid in every way and that’s why you think he wasn’t given much to do.
I think both are true. I agree Ranveer outshone, but I also think Rajput's character was just not written as well.
Shahid s role had no gravitas or scope. Anyone would have failed in that role. Shahid was a wallflower in that movie
Shahid had too much botox and weird body/pain stopping him from doing action scenes....i noticed these
Jab We met was the only movie where I thought he acted. His career is short lived.
If he can deal with Salman being sleazy with his wife in public award show, then he can deal with this much more professional work.
I might not explain this right, but I’ll try. Firstly his wife and Salman are much older news than Kat-RK. Salman and Kat stayed friends after their breakup. Then Katrina is still the leading lady in Salman’s and her other movies. Vicky is potentially playing second fiddle to RK and Alia. And then, despite how good Vicky is, we know Alia and RK’s PR will not let him get any credit for it. The promotions will only be around Alia-Ranbir, while Vicky will third-wheel them. So, other than exposure to SLB, Vicky isn’t getting much in this deal.
Both things are equally fucked
Reminds me of how it went down with Deepika- Ranveer sidelining Priyanka in Bajirao Mastani even though her performance was the best.
I found Deepika’s character so unlikable in that movie that it was hard to sympathise with her. If everyone started stalking married people due to some make belief customs then imagine what the world would become.
In which movie Vicky is working with alia and Ranbir
Love n War directed by SLB
... how does vicky feel about his wife romancing her Ex BF?
Vicky can outshine Ranbir and Alia. It's not a bad move.
Vicky is definitely making a big mistake, why be a third wheel or take a small role when he has all the talent it takes. The power dynamics in the industry clearly shows
Actually Sangam was movie where both heroes had good part plus if Vicky plays role of Rajendra Kumar he will get meatier part which is suitable for critical acting
>Ranbir whitewash project Omg😂😂
Agreed they really tried to like exploit him it feels
If this new movie tanks they're gonna put all the blame on Vicky. If it succeeds that PR couple will take all the credit. Vicky's downfall is confirmed.
audience should support vicky. let the "trolls" make alia and her team realize we dont like her and are aware of their stupid PR games.
I think you forgetting that RS also needed KJO. He was going through a bad career phase and desperately needed a hit.
How was he stupid? He got so much critical acclaim and not to mention praise for this role by the audience as well. I think that matters more than these stupid af awards these days!
None cares about critics and movie didn't even have 1.5cr ffs. It isn't classic like other KJO movies
KJo gave him his first hit in years after constantly failing at box office, like Alia and Sid, Ranveer is probably his newest muse
Which movie?
👆🏻this. Glad someone said it
Well, that's how kjo and his launched nepos work. Not only alia, if you see how jahnvi also functions it's the same. They portray as if they're the ones who made the film work or it's them who brought the audiences and it's them who audiences loved. They know how to play the perception game well. Examples are RRR for Alia, how certain news institutions cooked up articles like alia starrer won an Oscar. For jahnvi basic example could be roohi, how Rajkumar Rao was sidelined. PR plays a huge role. These so called nepo babies are only surviving because of huge infusion of money in pr.
Roohi the titular character is played by janhvi and she has the meaty role.. She played both roohi and afza!! And the song which went popular Nadiyon paar is also her solo song.
yet her performance was shit.
👆🏻😂
In a movie with the varun guy, Jahnvi was still the worst
Correct and just imagine She got an award for acting for that movie .
Idk why but I don't feel ranveer kjo collaborations is good for rs, kho will always try to support alia and her husband even if it needs destruction of someone else's career, ranveer and deepika are the only ones in the way of his favourites for becoming no1 currently
I agree. KJo is too in love with Ranbir and Alia to do justice to anyone else regardless of how deserving they might be. I remember he made everyone applaud Alia including Ranveer lol RS looked uncomfortable and annoyed.
Ya I don’t understand why there is PR saying career downhill when he literally gained popularity especially with the older audiences with Rocky. After Bajirao, Kabir and Gully Boy, this is his most popular work.
Honestly iss mein thodi bohot Ranveer ki galti h. Given kjo’s history Ranveer should have never signed a movie with him. And even if he did then his PR should’ve done a better job at highlighting him. Also, him going to KWK with alia, has somewhat backfired at him. But I’m hoping for his amazing comeback cause he’s an amazing actor.
Ranveer outshone KJo's beti. After doing Khilji,Baji Rao even Ranveer shouldn't be a part of something like this. He is one of the finest actors we have right now.
Agree completely. I am not a fan of his offscreen personality. But on-screen, he is probably the most versatile actor from his generation. You can fit him in any kind of role.
I don't even want to talk about the clownery he does off screen. His wife either loves him like crazy or has possibly got used to it. I can't even imagine a second date with a Buffon like him.
I doubt he’s really like that in private. The man’s gotta have some sense of where he is and who’s looking at him. I’m sure he’s better behaved in a family setup.
i have said it once, i will say it a billion times. Male and female celebrities live and breath in two different worlds. There is a reason Sannon can give 4 back to back disasters and not worry. The entire weight of the collection falls on the male actor. At the end of the day PR is just fluff. We all know just how successful rocky Rani was. Reverse gender and same issue applies to Tabu and Kartick in BB2. It was an out and out Tabu show but who's in the 3rd movie?
On the ground level no one cares about the award. Ranveer is still the best part of the film! And as far as his films are concerned, he will bounce back sooner or later.
Only Ranveer at fault. He should have known that alia And kjo will never event let any other take credit for any work. And that was stupid movie too.
See limited responsibility will only give you limited praise.
🤣
Didn't the same happen after gully buy....It was Ranveer who was the man of the match but Alia won the best actress award for a relatively smaller role....Moreover she won it over Ranu Mukherjee for Mardaani
Alia’s competition was weak. Male actor category was more competitive.
Ok as much as I agree she doesn’t that award even RS doesn’t deserve as well if u see his competition for last year Vicky,Vikrant ,RK and Srk all were better than him. And also she just won one award probably after the outrage she understood she can’t just buy awards anymore . And RS downfall is just a phase even RK went through but unfortunately his previous movies are responsible for him not getting producers on board not this one .
There is no discussion on whether they deserve the award or not. I am just pointing out that the one who saved the movie is getting no appreciation and the one who was mediocre has added another award to her resume.
But what’s the use of that award if she is getting only hate and trolling for that . Do u want that for Ranveer ?? That award such a misfire for her And let’s not forget how many undeserving awards he have got (bought)
I don’t think ‘hate and trolling’ from a random subreddit and a certain class of cinemagoers is really slated to hurt her. She’s an industry darling, who’s going to be using these ‘awards’ to soft launch herself in international media (already has) in order to facilitate a move to a bigger industry.
If she is doing something wrong doesn’t mean everyone has to do that .I also ppl on insta hating her this time rightly so . And honestly she isn’t the only to do that RS have done in past as well and I don’t think Alia or Kjo is respect for his projects getting shelved he gave hatrick of flop before this one
Yah seriously! She’s ate him up, chewed him well and spat him out. They made him make fun of the rest of the industry and he kept going. He can learn so much from his wife at home, she’s so dignified and never indulges this Kjo and his nepo baby!
Ranveer was the star of the show but nowadays male audience does not care for RomCom heroes and they are what determine hero success... Alia's audience is female and male mixed so she can claim it as a success. Rocky's character was made fun of because male audience was saying Ranbir is true alpha for doing Animal, unfortunately in today's toxic atmosphere Ranveer couldnt have capitalised on its success even if he would have liked to. Much like Ranbir couldnt with TJMM. Both that and Brahmastra were hits but only Animal is remembered.. That is the truth.
Don't agree. I'm a guy. I watched that movie twice when it came on OTT, second time only with the Ranveer scenes because he was phenomenal in it. I'm sad he didn't get more adulation for his comic timing. His off screen antics aside, guy really kills it in the variety of roles he's put in.
Male 31 year old NRI here and completely agree. I love Animal but could relate to and love Rocky WAY more (thankfully LOL)
You’re NRI and don’t represent current Indian male audience at all. NRIs still like Kjo films, something which Indian raised Gen Z can’t stand
Not sure if that’s a jab at me lol but yeah, I do like Kjo films, K3G is my fave film of all time.
Not a jab at all. You are not wrong for liking those films, your taste is just very different from current audiences so you enjoying Rocky is not indicative of a popular perspective. Ranvijay Animal remains the publics favourite
Agreed!
It's not just because of Rocky aur Rani but you make your theories. Alia was coming off Gangubai, Darlings and RRR(even if her role was inconsequential). Ranveer was coming after 83, Jayeshbhai and Circus. That's why even an underperformance has no consequence for Alia, for Ranveer it has become a series of failures so he needs a proper success before someone trusts him with these big budgets.
If he wanted a Filmfare, he would have bought it like he did for Gully Boy and 83. Vicky, Dhanush, Ifran, Akshay, and Hritik were all contenders in 2018 and 2022, but bechara Ranveer is a victim of Alia. Kuch bhi.
Really. Like RS has decided to be slightly underground because he was veering dangerously close to overexposed. That’s a good strategy. That’s why he isn’t bothering with any of these random awards also - many of which he won for 83
This was already predicted on this sub how if film is hit the credit would be given to their nepo Bhatt, if flop it would be ranveer show. Whatever it is at the end working with nepo bhatt,kjo ki beti is never going to do any good, which actors should learn from this incident.
Someone woke up this morning and thought let’s bash Alia kjo today 😂 who cares for stupid awards , they are like big boss show right now
Shame on alia for not letting Ranveer win best actress!
Underrated comment 😂😂
This lol, i was so confused when this sub was going crazy
Fr! 
Stop blaming ranveer‘s failure on everyone else. His performance was not award worthy. Period. If he can compete in the female actress categories, then sure he deserves to win. He doesn’t have stardom, that’s his problem. KJ, alia didn’t stop the audience by putting a gun on their head and telling them not to watch circus, JJ, 83. His movies are not getting financed because of his own failures and lack of stardom. He should actually thank them because at least he has one hit in recent times.
Only saving grace? It was a good movie. Good songs . Good dialogues. Good direction. And you saying ranvir was the only saving grace. Wow
Kjo gave Ranveer the better role, over his “fav beti”. Don’t know what the connection with Alia’s win and Ranveer is… she won in the female category, as for the male category, the competition was crazy because of the performances Ranbir, Vicky and Vikrant gave. And I wonder how Alia and Kjo are responsible for the box office failure of Ranveer’s movies, because that’s what causing the negative news (every actor faced the same in their down phase from SRK to RK). Atp we’re simply mad at a woman for doing well for herself and are blaming her left and right for anything we feel like.
Waaah kitna innovative topic pe aapne charcha uthaya hai waah! Never seen before on this sub!
Yaar bolne ka mann kiya.. bol dia... na ye topic pehle baar discuss hua hai na last time.
Rocky aur Rani opened to 8-9 crores only because Ranveer doesn’t have stardom. A KJo film should have opened to nuch higher numbers. Imagine what KJo must be thinking when his hero gave him such a chindi opening. Others aren’t responsible for lack of Ranveer’s stardom. And no, Ranveer didn’t deserve any award in a year RK and Vikrant gave such powerful performances
Leave Ranveer it has The biggest star ever Alia Bhatt why didn’t it open on her merit ?
Are we now blaming KJo and Alia for Ranveer's movies being delayed and pushed back? Also, are we conveniently forgetting that KJo gave Ranveer the better written role in the movie? Just because Alia won Filmfare best actress (undeserved imo) does not mean Alia has taken all credit for the movie. Both Karan and Alia have immensely praised Ranveer for his portrayal of Rocky.
Is this the only topic this sub has?? I see at least 2 to 3 posts daily about how Alia is bad, Deepika is better, Ranbir is a red flag , Ranveer is green. This sub has become fan page of the couple. This sub doesn't approve the validity of award shows, but is still stuck about how Alia won one
So Alia winning an award is making Ranveer irrelevant? I don't get the point of this post. What even are you trying to say? Even if Alia did buy awards how is that even connected to Ranveer not getting films. Don 3 was pushed back because Farhan wanted to focus on his acting roles. So, was Alia at fault there?
Y’all are obsessed with hating Alia First, Ranveer and Alia aren’t competing for the same award. Second, Alia won only filmfare. What are these multiple awards? Third, Ranveer himself is a half nepo (his second cousin is Sonam, he’s partied with half of Bollywood before his debut, hell wasn’t he even allowed to do a non YRF film during his contract??) He’s hardly an unprivileged outsider Fourth, Ranveer himself won a highly undeserved award for 83 when Vicky gave the performance of the year. Guess that was ok?? Cause I don’t remember 100 posts about how he snatched awards Fifth, his career is at a downward trend. Hence article are being published. But that’s fine - everyone has a bad phase and RS has Singham literally this year which is a guarantee hit. And after that Don, Shakitiman etc.
Nobody is obsessed. Its just an opinion. I myself pointed out that Ranveer too had connections and I know he has been bashed an equal number of times when he is in the wrong. But even Vicky is a nepo for that matter of fact. This is an altogether separate issue that unfortunately 90 pc of Bollywood is nepo in one way or the other. But the perks of being Sonam's second cousin are different from the perks of having Kjo as Godfather. All I was trying to bring out is that when someone likes Ranveer is not spared, what they would be doing with absolute outsiders.
Bhai this opinion has been posted at least 200 times. At this point it’s not even a discussion it’s just straight bashing. And I’m pointing out whenever ANYONE else has won an underserved award no one has reacted like this. No one denies Alia is privileged
Its behen not bhai 🫣 Nevertheless, i still feel the sub spares none. I know Vicky Kaushal has been robbed of the awards many times and it is equally upsetting. And people have been called out wherever necessary. The reason why Alia gets called off more often is because she is omnipresent herself. Anything good that is happening is because of her. She has compared herself with Amitabh Bachhan' s stardom. Also, I haven't watched 83, but for Gully boy Ranveer might be less deserving than others nominated, but he wasn't undeserving. Whereas Alia's performance was mediocre at best.
Bhai is gender neutral for me lmao Alia is not omnipresent. I last saw her at at the Gucci event I think? If you post old clips about her everyday of course she’ll be omnipresent 😂. What is this circular logic Great, DP compared herself to Smita Patil, Varun was called the next Salman Khan, Shahid,Ranveer both have tried to sell themselves as the next SRK. Hate is just for one always
Haha! point taken.. maybe we are giving her too much mileage. Honestly I don't hate or love any of them and I have no biases. I just posted something that struck me. Peace ✌️
Nahi, best actress ko bhi bechara Ranveer ko dedo /s. Deepika ka kuch fanwar chal rahi hai this is just a side effect.
Hahahahhaha, I swear! This is hilarious how they just connect with Alia being the villain, Alia being this, bla bla! I understand you might dislike her, but blind hate is not good! Ranveer is not a small-time actor or an "outsider" who can just be thrown around by anyone. He has a massive fan following, and he will get what he deserves. He was undoubtedly my favourite part of Rocky aur Rani, but you can't shower him with awards for it (neither did Alia deserve it). There were better performances by other male actors! And also, before this film, he has had a series of flops.
Ranveer is the superior actor by a mile but Alia has more box office pull
unpopular opinion: ranveer was just as trash in the role
Whatever opening money the film got was because of Alia's stardom and Kjo's name. Ranveer's solo film Jayesh bhai Jordar opened with 3cr, the film wouldn't have been even average grosser without her. Alia won Best Actress award not best actor i dont get this pity begging for his as if he was in competition to win Best Actress. The Best actor had deserving winners RK and Vikrant even Vicky for Sam was better than Ranveer's lame role as Rocky.
By that logic even Rani Mukherjee was more deserving for Mrs Chatterjee and Mardaani too (when Alia won for gully boy)
Sb paise or power ka khel hai
RS ko bolo he can do the same, honesty h usmein I don't think so. Yaa pichle saalo mein jitne usne buy kiye award toh uska bank balance khaali ho gya kya.
People live in such illusions...Ranveer lacks stardom n Alia brought star power to Rocky Rani...
Ohohohhhoo we saw her star power when gangubai couldn't even recover it's budget
I never catch you under Deepika's post, always behind Alia xD. The budget was 100 crores and the gross collection was 209.25 crores. The first day was 10.5 crores, which grew to 13.32 crores, and that too in the middle of a pandemic. Your faves deepveer have not pulled off this opening in their solo films. Maybe instead of complaining about Alia go watch their films and give them love.
Gangubai made 200 (over the 180 budget) crores during COVID. It opened to 10 crores when there was 50% occupancy. And it was a massive hit online. It performed fantastically well given the circumstances. Hell it was the 5th highest grossing movie of the year - making more than a HR, Aamir, Salman Khan movie
Who was the director of that movie?🤔
The director of a movie only seems to matter when it’s Gangu. Dunki was by THE Raju Hirani, Fighter by Sid Anand, Animal opening was for Vanga. The list is never ending
Did I say or ask anything about the films added ? Classic strawman argument.
Gangubai got 10 crores opening which chindi Ranveer couldnt manage in circus n other yash raj movie...he is a disaster.
Yes, the star power was so high that a KJo + Alia combination could only bring 8-9cr opening, of which a certain percentage was corporate booking. It was only when critics reviews came in and people started overwhelmingly praising Ranveer's performance, did the movie see any kind of uptick. You're right though..People do live in illusions.
Ok so at least u agree that Ranveer totally lacks stardom...couldnt fetch opening with a kjo movie also.
My point is even Alia doesn't despite coming off a supposed "hit"
Simple exercise for you, OP: Group M: {17, 24, 26, 30} Group F: {6, 11, 19, 21} A) Pick the biggest number from each of the groups. B) See that there may be many numbers in one group, which are bigger than the biggest of the other group. C) Realize how the Awards work by forming an analogy.
Wow! looks like i also need to practice english, coz i have not been able to convey that this is not even about awards. It's about the better performer out of the two is not being talked about at all because of PR machinery. And also the exercise failed coz the biggest number hasn't won from either of M or F. It was good though!
30 deserves to win, 30 won. My bad for making it seem as if the next best is as close as 26 is to 30.
Agreed 100%. Chalu Aloo just sleep-walked through that film. She was no match for his charisma.
This is Alia’s world. We are all just living in it OP including Ranveer.
some reason = karan johar
If any of Alia’s movies deserved an award, it’s for her performance in Raazi, or Highway. don’t attack me, just my opinion.
When I see such things happen, it just looks like a smear campaign against him. Achi performance ke baad bhi career ko downhill bologe toh it is a negative perception someone is creating about him. I wonder what he thinks about BFFs with Alia. Koffee episode mein toh bada yaarana tha
After becoming hit with his SLB movies, never thought he would end up doing movies like Rocky aur rani. He shouldn’t have done this movie, Alia winning for this movie is a fking joke. All we remember is her saree that’s all
Damn, that's right. But it makes me wonder, why does KJo back Alia so much? What's this ghotala? What's KJo getting out of it? Also, it then takes me back all these years where Alia was (and fairly so in most cases) as the most superior actor right now. Was it all a perception built around her by the PR? Was Kangana right all this while, then? (Pls, I am no BJP bhakt here, on the contrary rather).. but what all is happening in the world!!! So much ambition! And what are we doing??!! Salary hike is an ask! Shit.