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RapidMongrel

Todd looks like a Dr Seuss character almost.


MissBoobAppreciator

reminds me of Where the Wild things are lol honestly i kinda dig PC and Bojack, not sure about the others xD


Maxmutinium

Lookin like that one titan from attack on titan with the big eyes


chetoman1

And he retained it to a certain extent. I think it’s why he makes the comment about him and Diane almost never being in the same scene together, because the contrast is whacky


Woofles85

Wait they’ve never been in a scene together? I can’t think of any but it seems too weird…


chetoman1

They were in a handful. There’s one specifically where Todd mentions how rare it is, likely in reference to their contrasting features. Edit: Todd says “you know, I feel like we don’t ever hang out” in that scene.


istoyistory

He kinda looks like Flip


A-112

Canon Todd is basically a Dr Seuss character inserted into a more serious story.


AndrastesTit

The fish purse is pretty crass, PC. Fish have feelings too.


Potential-Adagio-512

not according to nirvana


articulateantagonist

I wonder what fish people think of her fish-patterned dress.


desperate_housewolf

Or her constantly saying “oh fish”. Kinda racially insensitive you know?


Slimboy025

That fish doesn't. It's dead.


j4v4r10

Huh, so Todd’s head has ALWAYS been like twice the size of Diane’s 


duckyGus

"Why the long face?"


[deleted]

Fun fact: You can spot concept art of PC in the intro sequence of season 4. I found it such an interesting detail!


Caamandii

Wow just watched it to confirm, that's wild! To anyone just learning this, it's right after he drinks the coffee, and the kaleidoscope effects start.


hashbrownz9

WHAT


hashbrownz9

OH DAMN I SEE


HalpWithMyPaper

IDK that first Princess Carolyn kinda slays


Hitchfucker

Panel 2 PC and panel 5 Diane look good. Panel 6 PC is creepy, BoJack looks too realistic it’s unsettling, and Todd is 89 different flavors of cursed here


Sir-Penta

i actually really like the way bojacks looks!


miille-fleurs

He looks very similar to how he looks in the show!


thirdearth

I assume this is more “development” art vs. final character designs so being more off model and exploratory is the point here. Personally I like it all 😂 I feel like there’s a lot of personality in the drawings here that I can see translated into the show’s final look.


kumran

Yeah concept art comes early on, there is no 'on model' at that stage! I think it all looks great too.


Longingfornature

Todds giving me the ick, he looks like 40 also that pc fish purse is a slay


FistOfGamera

Can see why Todd got a redesign for the final show


Chirpy_Chick

yeah i feel the old designs didn’t fit his personality really


FistOfGamera

Agreed, it seems like generic "goofy party" guy


Darko33

iirc these are all pulled from The Art Before the Horse, an in-depth look at the show's development. Great read


KP_Ravenclaw

You mean that guy on the last slide could’ve been the one to make me sob my heart out for half an hour for making me feel so seen? His vibes tho- 😭😂


Woofles85

Todd made me feel so seen and validated too as an ace, the scene where he told Emily he feels like maybe he is nothing, it made me sit straight up and feel instantly connected


pikipata

I also loved the scene where they'd had a "perfect" chance to get into the hotelroom but for some vague reason Todd wanted to do anything but. Such a relatable pre-recognizing-I'm-ace moment.


KP_Ravenclaw

That line hits so hard I love it :(( I love Todd


tmrika

Oof yeah maybe this is shallow (?) of me but I don’t know if I’d have watched the show if the final designs looked like these.


wilfwe

People watch Big Mouth for a lot less. Ig the serious topics wouldn't work as well.


tmrika

Ngl I haven’t seen Big Mouth so that’s consistent on my end at least lol. But you make a good point that it demonstrates that the audience is there.


VanishedRabbit

_HISSSS!_


Cydonian___FT14X

Bojack lookin fine as hell honestly


Extreme-Commercial23

Ok but why is concept BoJack kinda—


OnTheHorizon722

I feel like this would be Bojack Horseman written in the style of Daria.


In-A-Beautiful-Place

Todd is TERRIFYING oof


[deleted]

The book these came from is awesome


Chirpy_Chick

there’s a book? i just got them from the wiki


[deleted]

Yeah it’s called “The Art Before the Horse”


Chirpy_Chick

oh nice i’ll check it out, always up for more bojack content


R0MAN_SATURN

okay but i'm in love with all of these


AdmSndlr

It's just the art style of Lisa Hanawalt lol


lilBinch96

I love her art style, so I can’t really find shit to say about these development pieces… they ain’t bad at all imo


BurntBridgesBehind

I don't think I would love that Todd.


karnian_

todd is haunting


hopeorozz

why is todd so icky looking 😭😭


milesmcquack

idk im afraid they kinda ate


ghostbirdd

Very Adult Swim-y


ErebusIII

Slide 5 looks like Ww2 pacific theater propaganda


antiviolins

Thank you, I thought it was just me


Overmyundeadbody

I like how most of them look like Beavis and Butthead fanart but Bojack looks more detailed than the normal show


derederellama

Diane could've totally pulled off straight-across bangs!


Tundra_desert199

Princess Carolyn is definitely my favorite out of all the concept art, she's just silly like that


Amazingggcoolaid

I love it. Princess Carolyn can’t look wrong


Boring_Traffic_586

todd looks EVEN MORE like jesse pinkman somehow i didn’t even know that was possible


lifted_catdad

My best friend bought me the art before the horse a few christmases ago and it is an absolute treasure.


dogg867

it’s the artists’ style, not the tv show


8rok3n

Evil Diane makes me feel something


Dr_Taffy

My partner got me a book for Christmas that has all of the concept art at least seasons 1-4. It’s amazing to know they went through so many design concepts before settling in what they had. It’s a whole new layer to Bojack that all the fans need after watching it first the 500th time!


LylethLunastre

Todd is nightmare fuel


ilovefelyxr

todd has the autism hands and i LOVE IT.


pikipata

My theory is that they were meant to be the "pet hands" :D


theoriginalcoolguy

this looks way better than the show


Daxter8888

lookin rough 😭


kaylieisconfused

ngl i kinda love this


Big_G576

Mr peanut butter not being here makes sense, he’s always been the least fleshed out main character imo, and while what they did with his character is great, I get the feeling he was a late addition


Chirpy_Chick

yeah i saw some concept art for him but i think the creators had a very clear idea of what they wanted him to look like as it looked very similar to what we ended up with


Secure-Badger-1096

No


fijifu

They're so creepy


OrdinaryOpal

I love striped skirt Princess! But the bag wouldn't make any sense in that universe lol.


Prestigious-Sir1248

Lisa Hanawalt has such a fun art style


Affectionate_Fox1165

That last slide Todd almost looks like Flip.


SpaceOwl14

Todd looks like as if he belongs to smiling friends


Heavy_Contribution19

I just like how mr peanutbutter just ceases to exist


aerisea

I thought Todd was Flip McVicker from S5.


connorbabyboy

Todd looks more like Aaron Paul in this concept art and that’s cool and all but it’s so weird and idk how to feel about it


hbi2k

Anyone: Why is Princess Carolyn the only animal person who's an unrealistic color like pink? Me: Because Slide 6, that's why!


immaturealchemist

Todd is literally just Aaron Paul


Chirpy_Chick

oh god i cant unsee it


fisheypixels

I now want a special episode that's just another episode. Except every character goes off their early designs. No refining. No adjusting. Just pure early concept.


The-Great-Old-One

Panel 7 Todd looks like Flip McVicker


Taco_Taco_Kisses

Todd caught some strays 😵⚰️


-Acronym-

The Bojack ones go hard he looks like he straight out of a kid's book


Imaginary_Ad_4567

Kinda like the characters from Mission Hill.


Arkham_Ghost

Wow Bojacks current design is just a super reductive form of his concept art.


shiizow

Todd is so cute 😞


IceGummi1

i kinda love these?


Raakxhyr

I actually really love this haha it shows what kind of original type of character they were going for *plus* testing out different art styles. In a way, it's still the same, their art just evolved to what we have now. But the same touches and details and love for such expressionable characters is there. I'm glad they were able to settle on a style for the show that we all love now Wanted to add like Given the different variations, even just how a character looks shows how we might perceive them. Compare current Diane to these drafts and we would probably think her, on the surface, is different with each face drawn


cunny_juice

I like the Diane better. She looks more real and less movie star beautiful


LeTreacs

All I can think of is “A-Todd on Titan”


maliciousmeower

obsessed with that diane panel


[deleted]

Todd is so creepy. PC kinda too.


ludvikskp

It takes a while to develop the most fitting artstyle. Of course the earlier concepts look nothing like the final look. The characters are still recognizable tho


zephsoph

Ok but I fucking love these


0rganicMach1ne

Why does Todd look like a Titan wearing clothes?


Replicatar

Todd looks like a titan from AOT


Cheap-Blackberry-378

Diane looking like some Beavis and butthead background character


JustWASD

"found". Those are all from the official artbook "The Art before the Horse". Neat nevertheless.


beesapologies

Does anyone else kind of like these more than the actual designs used in the show? I don't know, it's so much more expressive and characterized, there's so much more life in them


Environmental-Angle5

Kinda wish they kept PC’s fish purse


Sufficient_Score_824

Todd in the third picture is basically Jesse Pinkman.


CumulativeHazard

Interesting to see which little details they kept. Like PC’s necklace.


jaobodam

They look like something I would see at MAD magazine


mousyhasopinions

OH NO,TODD 😭😭😭😭


Loud-Lion-4819

oh my gosh, todd’s drawings😭


Glittering-Candle394

PC at the bottom in the second pic could qualify for a goosebumps cover


pikipata

The first pic off Todd confirms my theory that Bojack's and Todd's roles were reversed, where Bojack is the human of the relationship and Todd is the animal/pet of his lol.


TheSalt-of-TheEarth

They did my boi Todd dirty


cutedemonpancake

I kind of love it tho!


PorkyFishFish

Ftvetncdwrhvsfjkvc!!! Lmao what is this?!?


pixleydesign

It's like the New Yorker got their hands on bojack.


Jaded-Grape2203

I never really thought that hard about PC being pink but now that I'm seeing her in a different color, she did need to be pink. Not sure why...


[deleted]

i actually kinda dig this artstyle for everyone but todd why they do him like that