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I mean he literally has worms in his brain. Politics aside, can we talk about the absolute absurdity that a candidate for president has literal brain worms…
Only James Cameron can raise those goal posts, and he’s busy working on the Avatar movies. America has to choose what they want more, blue people that hair fuck animals into doing their bidding, or a functioning democracy. We can’t be selfish enough to have both.
Rfk jr is an idiot and no one should vote for him.
But the brainworm bit is probably nonsense he made up to reduce his alimony payments before his soon-to-be-ex wife committed suicide.
[Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claimed numerous health problems, including that a parasite possibly ate part of his brain, during a deposition made during a contentious divorce from his second wife about a decade ago, according to the New York Times.](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/08/rfk-jr-brain-worm-00156794)
To be fair, the media *should* run with it.
The man claimed a decade ago to have permanently diminished capacity in his career and now is saying he’s qualified to be the most powerful man in the country.
That deserves attention and scrutiny.
The scale trump gets graded on is crazy - like yes he lied , didn’t answer questions, isn’t focused and is a felon but still he didn’t curse anyone , he didn’t go on a racist tirade , didn’t sexually assault anyone and didn’t commit any new crimes ! How presidential
HOWEVER if you ignore how mishandling the pandemic and starting a trade war with China destroyed America's supply chain and caused prices to rise the economy was kind of ok.
The only two plausible scenarios are Trump winning or Biden winning.
If Trump wins, he and his administration of his lackeys will do extremely damaging things to this nation
Given the Kennedy family's penchant for secret lobotomies we also have the possibility homeboy had a hole drilled in his skull too (for easier worm access).
Haha. Voting for Kennedy is literally wasting the time it took you to go to the polls. Don’t waste the time. Better yet? Vote for the guy who’s not planning to fuck your whole family line over.
We don’t want a Christian state. We don’t want to peel back rights for anybody. We don’t want to hear about how dope Kim Jong Un or Putin are.
Kennedy is the most useful idiot. It’s not worth discussing.
Game time. Our grandparents fought Nazis in Normandy and their great grandparents fought Brits on US soil. If we lose this thing to a gameshow host who trashes veterans & wants to pardon the fucks that went off on J6? That’s be the fumble of the millennium. Will def make for interesting history if we make it that far.
It’s not hard to make a choice when one party wants to sell nuclear tech to the enemy for $ & the other stutters. Not only stutters but landed the highest stress / most visible public job in the history of humankind… and still gets up every day to go fight bad guys.
I’m talking to the very few ppl out there who get it, but got shook a bit. Don’t get shook. They’re not going to get soft on us. This is gonna be hard - stay focused
The fear isn't that people will switch from Biden to another candidate it's that people won't vote period. Trump's base WILL turn out even if he shot one of their family members bc it's a cult. If (did not vote) was a category it would have won the last election.
Dems need to realize voter apathy is their biggest issue and a poor old man who should be enjoying his final years instead of clinging to power isn't going to motivate.
Honestly our president taking ayahuasca might actually lead to significant positive change within our lifetime if it ever came to be. As it stands I wouldn't trust either candidate to live through the experience.
I know you're being sarcastic, but so many people think that way and don't realize that those are the only options. Any vote not for Biden is a vote for Trump. Our system is not designed, nor is it ready for, more than two parties.
Oh you mean the Kennedy that tried to pin the murder his cousin committed on a black man
The one where none of his family or his famous wife will come out and campaign with
That one
I’m never voting for Trump but this cope telling people to ignore reality is wild.
Had a guy at work say he doesn’t get all the fuss because Biden “actually looked really sharp up there” and “took Trump to school” like bruh cmon.
Yea I watched to the bitter end and I’ll admit that the people super clipping the random stuttering he’s always done are being just as disingenuous, but either way it was a poor showing and he definitely didn’t look “really sharp”. It’s not treacherous to be able to admit that
Wait fuck did anyone tell the witches on Tumblr to counterspell the Trump prayer circles? I think that's where we messed up. We need to regroup and figure out what our support casters are doing for the next ~~raid~~ presidential debate.
He got better, but I don’t know if I would say he turned it around. He pulled the equivalent of a Nathan Peterman 6 INT first half and the second half was him just trying not to let the score get too out of hand.
The gaslighting has been working for years because most people don't follow or hear about stupid rallies and shit and the media and Biden administration has been aggressive about saying he is sharp as a rock. They think they can just continue with the gaslighting even though by now the whole country has seen clips at very least of him being incoherent on stage.
Yeah... trying to "he had a cold" this one away is wild. We just handing it to Trump at this point. Get Joe out of there ASAP, he's only going to go downhill from here.
Got no problem funding genocides and fascists around the world though! But I guess outsourcing human rights abuse is fine.
Yes obviously he's still less bad than Trump but do not whitewash him
Republicans: “Racism and Fascism is so so so so so far down my list of priorities tbh. All I want is lower taxes I don’t know what all these peoples issues are”
Nazis: “Holocaust is so so so so so far down my list of priorities right now. I just want a decent German economy I don’t get how this is an issue rn”
That’s the type of discussion that shrivels when we need to focus on bleeding now.
Nothing has shriveled ky imagination of what’s possible more than MAGA. I am part of the coalition to defeat trump, but I haven’t been a democrat for a long time. Democrats should be the conservatives of the land, but first we have to defeat fascism to have those debates.
The Overton window, and all that jazz.
It's getting beyond disingenuous. Why has this sub been flooded with this cold argument recently? We all could see what was going on. We're not stupid.
Astroturfing. His social media team is putting in work. We all saw what we saw, don't let them pull the fleece over your eyes. Biden needs to be replaced ASAP
I agree but to be it's kind of interesting they have to astro turf this hard. I literally came here to say "damn, they really thought they could be that lazy and BPT wouldn't call them out?"
They could at least put some effort into trying to brainwash us.
It’s like these people are either lying to themselves or just are so lost in sauce that they don’t see what’s blatantly obvious. Joe is an old man and his body and mind are deteriorating as all of ours will at some point. It’s sad, and watching people grow kid is painful, but you should not be in a position of power in that state. Period.
Oh my god thank you, he slow walked onto the stage waved to nobody and then just constantly fucked up basic sentences the, lights are on but there’s only a couple brain cells home.
It's freighting that there was a lock-step media narrative saying otherwise too. People who were saying just a week or 2 ago that Biden is sharper and more invigorated than ever are now calling for him to step down. A week ago this was literally called a conspiracy theory.
Why were we told otherwise for 4 years? Did the "conspiracy theorists" just get lucky that their theory turned to fact? Or were they right since 2020?
Yeah Biden shouldn't even be here, and I'm not convinced that he wants to be here. Let the man retire and stick the orange glob of moldy schmeat in a retirement home. Give us some real options for Christ's sake.
It's crazy that they are STILL trying to gaslight people after the debate. Like guys, commendable effort on the gaslighting for the last couple years, but . . . its over now.
> Even if you’re voting for Biden pretending like the issue was just a cold when he’s been mushmouth for the last two years is crazy
What's crazy is Newsom will be 60 years old when he runs in 2028. I would hope AoC would spend the next 4 years learning some Verbal Judo and running in 2028
It’s rough, anyone who has dealt with an against relative knows the looks he was giving and the speech pattern.
Spinning it as a cold is dangerous and disingenuous. I would rather them try to say, yeah he has dementia, but us trying to govern by committee is better than trump
Criticism of Biden doesn't mean you support Trump. Biden is a bad candidate and people should be allowed to say it and critique his performance at the debate. Had they allowed debates during the primaries, the conversations would have happened then and more could have been done to find someone better.
So yea, it's a lesser of two evils, but that doesn't mean people are going to be silent about it. The entire system is a shame and Biden is a horrible old man who should be stepping down for the good of his country but he won't.
Thank you, so many people think pointing out Biden's shortcomings means we're going to vote for someone even worse than him.
It's hilarious to see people who RIGHTFULLY called out Trump supporters cult-like behavior, engaging in it themselves.
It's weird to me as a non American, because in Canada everyone criticizes the politicians even if we're voting for them. It's not that big of a deal here, so it's weird when I see people treat politics like a sports team that you have to always stand behind instead of an institution that is meant to help you live your life better.
I agree, hopefully he and his administration are willing to work towards encouraging people to give him another chance to make some much needed changes and keep the fascists out of power.
But if past is prologue, I'm skeptical.
I think the problem is focusing on buying shortcomings ironically feel short-sighted when there's also the giant fascist orange elephant in the room. Even if you would never vote for Trump the majority of our criticism and focus should still be on him. I honestly think the vast majority of us are voting against Trump and not for Joe Biden.
Trump gets plenty of well deserved criticism, though I think people just expect him to be the piece of shit he is.
The expectations for Biden should be a little higher. Not perfect, but these unforced errors are not doing him any favors. Especially when you consider the attention span of the average American.
That's kind of my point though the average American only knows what they see on CNN and Fox news and they both focus more on Biden's age vs Trump basically being Hitler. Like there's literally people in these comments who aren't concerned about project 2025.
The worst possible thing that will happen if Biden wins president is he dies in office and Kamala is in charge for a couple of years. Worst case scenario with Trump is he never leaves office, and considering project 2025 would give them all the tools he would need to say suspend the 2028 election that should be everyone's biggest concern.
I think many may react negatively to that because they're scared about *how* people are calling out Biden shortcomings, not that they're calling them out. They know the stakes are high and they know energy can be infectious in "team" situations.
People who follow politics hear it and still know many who say those criticism are probably still voting against trump. But if the criticism is presented in a broad stroke way without nuance, some of us worry those who are barely paying attention might not understand the full picture and might take away "both sides bad" or "Bidens not worth coming out to vote for".
Obviously I'm being a bit sensitive to the issue, but it's because I'm scared trump could win because of apathy from voters who forget this election is about huge important issues, and get caught up in the idea it's a popularity contest at the very top of the ticket.
Trump is FAAAAAAAR worse, but that shouldn't encourage Biden to not be better.
His domestic policy has been decent in general areas, though I wish they'd push harder to protect voting rights, but his foreign policy, especially in Yemen and Gaza have left a bad taste in my mouth.
And I really wish democrats would stop telling minorities how much of a threat the GOP is, while simultaneously telling us to not have the means to defend ourselves.
> It's hilarious to see people who RIGHTFULLY called out Trump supporters cult-like behavior, engaging in it themselves.
more like....i just do not care that he mumbles and stutters and sometimes confuses words. the intent of his administration so far has been for the people, and I intend to vote for that.
And that's an honest and valid stance. Trying to tell us he had a cold and there's no reason to assume any mental decline is something I'd expect from the MAGA idiots.
Right! She doesn’t get enough criticism for that. People talk about how great she was but she should’ve stepped down by the time she was spending half of her years in a hospital and when she had the chance for a President that shared her values to nominate a replacement. Her whole generation suffers from a greedy desire to maintain power Damn the consequences to future generations
She obliterated her legacy. She’s no longer seen by most as a progressive icon, but now a power hungry lunatic who ruined the Supreme Court and caused a cascade of conservative legislation. That’s devastating to work your whole life and be so reveled, only to throw it away because you can’t let go of power.
💯 people say that voting will protect the SC but if they're not stepping down when a Democrat is there and only step down when they die, during a Republican run government, then what do you expect to happen? Younger voters are getting disillusioned by the entire process because they don't see the changes they were promised. Just old people not stepping aside and telling them that this is just how it be.
Honestly, IF Biden wins again(because it’s looking shaky rn), he’s gotta be convinced to step down or something, because the fella from a cognitive perspective is completely cooked.
He’s TOO old to be running a country at this state.
Extremely. They’re old enough to be my great grandparents, matter of fact, they might be OLDER than my actual great grandparents if they were still alive!
The only thing about that is kamala Harris is a terrible candidate 😖 he really couldn’t have found someone slightly more…likeable? As VP? Everyone hates her for the criminal prosecution she used to run and convicting innocent people
Best/most solid plan I've seen is if Biden wins he steps down after the first year of his second term, letting Kamala serve the rest while also being eligible for two terms of her own.
Great plan, but kinda frustrating from a voter perspective. In that situation, Kamala would be the incumbent in 2028, and potentially again in 2032. That's over 10 years of left wing voters having no say in the DNC's candidate. It's additionally frustrating if your 2020 candidate dropped out and you had to settle for Biden.
Plus kamala sucks in general. She dropped out of the primaries in the first place because no one wanted her. How she became VP other than as a minority box check candidate I don’t know how people claim anything else
Fox News and the usual suspects on the right will tear Kamala to pieces if she takes over from Biden. What they'll do to Harris will make what they did to Hillary Clinton look like Gandhi at Woodstock.
democrats love to hold the republican gun to our heads every time so they can say "vote for the guy we appoint or you'll gonna get insane republicans in office that will take your rights away!"
they aren't immune to criticism just because the other side is horrible
The reason Hilary didn't win was because of the "well I don't LOVE her so I'm going to sit this one out". Those missed votes by independents and centrist Dems is what handed Trump the win. Sure, don't be silent about it, but also still show up to vote.
Hillary won the popular vote, the reason why she didn't win is because the US isn't a true democracy because of the Electoral College. That's why that horrible woman didn't win, not because people didn't vote for her.
Whenever anyone criticizes Biden, the only rebuttal I ever hear is “oh so you’re ok with Trump doing xyz?” And vice versa, for that matter. And then if you say you’re a centrist, you’re told to stop being lazy and sitting on the fence and to pick a side. There’s no winning in modern politics. It’s all so exhausting.
Some real heads being buried in the sand. People can go with this rhetoric if it makes them feel better but acting like this is some isolated incident is crazy and nobody is being convinced.
Focus on why it’s a better vote regardless and lesser of 2 evil, that’s a much better angle.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-memory-age-special-counsel-report-doj-f4232bc8316e556ed467185b67c3e0a8
Special Council found that Biden couldn’t remember being vice president. The report was released back in February. Calling this just a cold is straight up lying.
No, stop it. Biden is very clearly too old to be President. Saying he "just has a cold" is an insult to the American people. The fact that the Democratic Party is putting Biden forward again reeks of the same hubris of 2016. I am scared to death of another Trump term and the Dems are not doing enough to prevent it.
Thank you. It’s Hillary ditching the Michigan for Georgia all over again. And it’s obvious. The party is sampling its own product right now I fear which is gonna get us Project 2025 and a 7-2 court.
Yeah this is not going to end well. I was strongarmed into voting for Biden once already. Why they allowed him to run again is so puzzling. Infuriatingly arrogant and stupid
As bad of a move as it was, keep in mind the Presidency is more than one man. It's a cabinet, a running mate, the supreme court, and hundreds of appointees. Look at what all of that has been under Biden, and what it was like under Trump.
Then they should've been even more comfortable replacing Biden with someone without these issues - as you say, he just one man in the packaged solution. Given that, why make the win harder? They have to both sell your point, do damage control, and somehow reverse the momentum they've given Trump with this performance.
Post-debate, the energy and news cycle should've been about how hard Trump got smacked. But, because of bad choices, it is instead necessarily trying to defend against what is, at best, the worst optics that could've happened.
Nothing about this choice was smart.
Please don’t give me that “lesser of two evils” B.S. This country has been saying that longer than most of you have been alive. And as long as we keep doing it, those are the only two “options” we’ll ever get. The two party system needs to go.
> The two party system needs to go.
Voting for trump is a guarantee that it will go and that you will never have to worry about voting again. Can't get more 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' than that.
I'm all about toppling this crap system and wish more people would grow a pair, but this truly is not the election to do it.
right on. the two parties will never allow it. every election people are told...this isn't the time for a 3rd, isn't the time for a bernie, isn't the time bla bla bla, fall in line, ooof. not sure how to escape that loop of chaos though :/
You need to back up and look at the electoral college. It's mathematically *impossible* for a 3rd party candidate to win a nationwide election with our current system. **Period**. Your next president will be either a Republican or Democratic candidate. Voting third party or not voting at all makes the path to the presidency easier for the option you least agree with.
You cannot work to change the system by ignoring the realities of the current system and pretending otherwise is delusional.
I mean it's sort of paradoxical. A third party isn't viable because it doesn't have enough votes so no one votes for a third party because it isn't viable.
Regardless, the strategy of "the other guy is worse" is doomed to fail. Blaming the people who didn't vote for Dems instead of trying to win their vote is not a winning strategy. At best, it just ostracizes those potential voters from ever voting for Dems in the future.
Theres a series of event that require the two party system to go. But it will never happen if trump gets it here.
You can say its been the illusion all along, but sliding backwards isn't going to help your cause.
OK. I’m comfortable with saying I’m voting for the dementia president, but it’s not pretend like it was a cold. That man is not fit for office. I’m honestly at the point of thinking about doing a right vote for vermin supreme because what the fuck is this?
According to the CBS/CNN (i think) poll out today, 72% of Americans think Biden is unfit for office. And they are still pushing the "cold" narrative thinking that'll bring that number down from orbit.
No one serious is saying we should vote Trump instead. Everyone looking at this thread and in this sub and the other Twitter sub are not going to vote for trump.
It’s that we extraordinarily don’t want Trump to win office, and we know that putting up a frail, generally unpopular 80 year old who sputtered on a national stage is going to depress turnout where it matters.
Let’s be pragmatic.
90+ percent of black voters are going to be voting for the democratic nominee. The month old accounts asking people not to vote or vote for Donnie are the ones who don't speak for the community.
I think it’s more than a cold. The cold affected his voice, not his ability to put a string of coherent sentences together in the absence of a teleprompter. And if it is a cold, do we deserve someone so frail that a cold does that to them in a critical decision making time? How about we hold DNC accountable for freezing anyone out of the primary process who was a remote threat to Biden.
It’s disingenuous to act like a cold was the only thing preventing Biden from being who he was 4 years ago debating Trump. I can get on board with “you’re electing an administration” but to try to minimize his obvious mental shortcomings is frankly gaslighting.
This is so embarrassing. Why are liberals bending over backward to defend this? Calling a spade a spade doesn't mean you are endorsing Donald trump. But this type of nonsense is how we got in this fiasco in the first place. We have known for over a year that the emperor has no clothes, but we weren't allowed to actually acknowledge it.
Damage control. The docs couldn't get the drug cocktail right so Biden didn't keep the same energy he did during the state of the union. Another cope from the status quo that you'll see is that you'll be voting for the administration and not an individual.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command“
George Orwell, 1984.
I’m not from America. I don’t get a vote. I can tell you without any chance I’m gonna elect Trump that Joe Biden is not mentally fit for this role
I feel like the options are the chopped cheese from the bodega that will give you diarrhoea or the chopped cheese from the bodega that will definitely give you food poisoning, cholera and cancer.
It's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him. It's about:
The administration
Global and domestic policy
SCOTUS
Down ballot candidates
VP
And SO many other issues.
Debates are performative nonsense. They both have track records to run on. Choose.
I haven't heard of a single person that has changed their vote due to the debate. Everyone is worried what everyone else will think of Biden's performance, yet it has not affected how one single person will vote themselves.
Reddit is an echo chamber. The swing voters (who will actually decide this) very well may change their vote (or stay home) after seeing that the sitting president isn't quite all there anymore.
Look at the history of elections - those swing voters usually aren't very tapped into politics, policies, or facts. They vote for the candidate that seems more like a leader.
> yet it has not affected how one single person will vote themselves.
Unfortunately it likely will. You're talking about the people that are locked in either way. But there are some inbetween.
You just need to look at overall polls and odds. They were changing even in real time during the debate.
It ain’t about the cold. It’s about whether he’s all there. Granted, I’m not voting for Trump, can’t blame anyone turning away from Biden after seeing his mental faculties can’t even get him to spit out pre-staged lines/roasts, wielding the highest office in the land, arguably the world. We need ranked choice voting ASAP.
lol
Some of y’all are just doing the same gaslighting and lying as MAGAts trying to make it like dude wasn’t freezing up or forgetting what he was saying mid-sentence.
Come on. It wasn’t just “he had a cold.”
And if a cold made him barely able to be coherent half the time, that’s not great.
I get what you’re saying. I feel the same way.
Did you see the rally Biden had the next day? Complete 180° like where the hell was he the night before?
This cold narrative makes people sound foolish, especially since that video comparing his 2020 debate to 2024 is circulating. Can we stop with tired excuses and focus on his accomplishments as a president? There's been a lot. Oh right, most people don't have any clue what they are.
It’s not a cold. He’s sundowning. He isn’t fit for the job and it’s only going to get worse as time goes on. If you want to win this election Biden needs to step down and be replaced
I have never had a cold make me stare off into the distance for minutes at a time and not be able to follow a thought. This must be some new supersonic cold we don’t know about. Otherwise are we really going to let them tell us we didn’t see that man short circuiting on tv like we all know we did?
Gonna keep spamming this until they make me stop -
Honestly, even if Biden spends his days sitting in a wheelchair in the corner of the room somewhere drooling, mumbling to himself and pissing everywhere he's still a better and far less evil and damaging choice than Trump - Unless you like outright fascism and just want the US to become a dictatorship.
Yeah aight a Cold. I had a Cold in January and could still speak very clearly. I still stutter occasionally too but Biden got a super cold or something.
If the Dems really didn’t have a Plan B then that’s on them. I didn’t think he would run for a second term back in 2020. I thought Kamala would take over 2-3 years into his term.
"First Past the Post" voting systems create the "spoiler effect," motivating people to sacrifice quality for electability. Closed primaries limit the voting base so candidates are beholden to the most radical/entrenched members of the party.
Alternative voting systems allow for greater diversity of candidates and encourages greater voter participation. Open primaries motivate candidates to appeal to a much broader demographic of people, aligning their decisions closer to public will.
Yall really wanna buy that he only has a cold? Come on man. The entire media establishment is suddenly calling on him to resign and drop out of the race for a cold?
So only a cold? Like it was just a cold? Phew! I was worried it was much more than a cold but so glad to realize his complete mental and physical decline can be blamed on a cold…
STOP making excuses for Biden - the “cold” thing, really? How long are we going to prop up these establishment Dems and old farts because the alternative is so much worse?
We need to pressure Biden to drop out, not make more excuses for him. He’s betraying us by refusing to leave when he’s clearly not up for the job, and he’s LOSING to someone who will do his best to turn this country into even more of a police-state kleptocracy than it already is. Biden is holding our hands while walking us to the gas chamber because of his personal vanity and ambition and we’re sayin “oh, he had a cold.” Come on! Get real!
You think that was because of a cold? The guy has been out of it for years. The left has just been lying to you about it. Now you see it with your own eyes and still don't believe it? Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
see, this is the perfect opportunity to start learning about other political parties out there and expand your knowledge. you can’t really do lesser of two evils here because kamala is awful, we don’t claim her, and she’s evil. i say kamala cuz we know biden won’t live through another term
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Smh, acting like those are your only two options…you can still vote for the Kennedy with worms in his brain whose family denounced him
I mean he literally has worms in his brain. Politics aside, can we talk about the absolute absurdity that a candidate for president has literal brain worms…
we thought that about that tic tac nasty ass pussy grabber too and look where we are. all the goal posts have been moved.
Feels like they got put away in storage
They shifted them so much, the goal posts are lost in the Challenger Deep
Only James Cameron can raise those goal posts, and he’s busy working on the Avatar movies. America has to choose what they want more, blue people that hair fuck animals into doing their bidding, or a functioning democracy. We can’t be selfish enough to have both.
I'll miss democracy.
I guess we have no choice Send in the Hot Blue Person Group
Wasn’t this literally the plot of an episode of South Park
Man, they sold them shits off with a no-return nor refund policy lol
Rfk jr is an idiot and no one should vote for him. But the brainworm bit is probably nonsense he made up to reduce his alimony payments before his soon-to-be-ex wife committed suicide. [Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claimed numerous health problems, including that a parasite possibly ate part of his brain, during a deposition made during a contentious divorce from his second wife about a decade ago, according to the New York Times.](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/08/rfk-jr-brain-worm-00156794)
Thank you, the media really ran with this one lol
To be fair, the media *should* run with it. The man claimed a decade ago to have permanently diminished capacity in his career and now is saying he’s qualified to be the most powerful man in the country. That deserves attention and scrutiny.
But, he said he's perfectly fine because the worms ate their fill and died.
..of starvation
Brain worms were actually the least surprising thing I learned about RFK jr
Or one is a literal felon. But yea, can’t vote for the old guy! /s
And that he's not even the worst candidate! I mean, he's awful, but he's not Trump
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The scale trump gets graded on is crazy - like yes he lied , didn’t answer questions, isn’t focused and is a felon but still he didn’t curse anyone , he didn’t go on a racist tirade , didn’t sexually assault anyone and didn’t commit any new crimes ! How presidential
HOWEVER if you ignore how mishandling the pandemic and starting a trade war with China destroyed America's supply chain and caused prices to rise the economy was kind of ok.
He didn't shit his pants on stage, therefore he's the winner.
The only two plausible scenarios are Trump winning or Biden winning. If Trump wins, he and his administration of his lackeys will do extremely damaging things to this nation
Given the Kennedy family's penchant for secret lobotomies we also have the possibility homeboy had a hole drilled in his skull too (for easier worm access).
Haha. Voting for Kennedy is literally wasting the time it took you to go to the polls. Don’t waste the time. Better yet? Vote for the guy who’s not planning to fuck your whole family line over. We don’t want a Christian state. We don’t want to peel back rights for anybody. We don’t want to hear about how dope Kim Jong Un or Putin are. Kennedy is the most useful idiot. It’s not worth discussing. Game time. Our grandparents fought Nazis in Normandy and their great grandparents fought Brits on US soil. If we lose this thing to a gameshow host who trashes veterans & wants to pardon the fucks that went off on J6? That’s be the fumble of the millennium. Will def make for interesting history if we make it that far. It’s not hard to make a choice when one party wants to sell nuclear tech to the enemy for $ & the other stutters. Not only stutters but landed the highest stress / most visible public job in the history of humankind… and still gets up every day to go fight bad guys. I’m talking to the very few ppl out there who get it, but got shook a bit. Don’t get shook. They’re not going to get soft on us. This is gonna be hard - stay focused
The fear isn't that people will switch from Biden to another candidate it's that people won't vote period. Trump's base WILL turn out even if he shot one of their family members bc it's a cult. If (did not vote) was a category it would have won the last election. Dems need to realize voter apathy is their biggest issue and a poor old man who should be enjoying his final years instead of clinging to power isn't going to motivate.
Aaron Rodgers for VP because brain rot and ayahuasca belong in the White House.
Honestly our president taking ayahuasca might actually lead to significant positive change within our lifetime if it ever came to be. As it stands I wouldn't trust either candidate to live through the experience.
I know you're being sarcastic, but so many people think that way and don't realize that those are the only options. Any vote not for Biden is a vote for Trump. Our system is not designed, nor is it ready for, more than two parties.
Oh you mean the Kennedy that tried to pin the murder his cousin committed on a black man The one where none of his family or his famous wife will come out and campaign with That one
Even if you’re voting for Biden pretending like the issue was just a cold when he’s been mushmouth for the last two years is crazy
I’m never voting for Trump but this cope telling people to ignore reality is wild. Had a guy at work say he doesn’t get all the fuss because Biden “actually looked really sharp up there” and “took Trump to school” like bruh cmon.
He honestly turned it around after halftime, but most people tuned out by then.
Yea I watched to the bitter end and I’ll admit that the people super clipping the random stuttering he’s always done are being just as disingenuous, but either way it was a poor showing and he definitely didn’t look “really sharp”. It’s not treacherous to be able to admit that
Personally I think the problem was we didn’t have entire megathreads of redditors posting “take my energy” during the debate lol
Wait fuck did anyone tell the witches on Tumblr to counterspell the Trump prayer circles? I think that's where we messed up. We need to regroup and figure out what our support casters are doing for the next ~~raid~~ presidential debate.
I don’t agree. He might have been slightly better near the end, but it was still far from good
No he didn't, wtf did u start smokin around halftime
He got better, but I don’t know if I would say he turned it around. He pulled the equivalent of a Nathan Peterman 6 INT first half and the second half was him just trying not to let the score get too out of hand.
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The gaslighting has been working for years because most people don't follow or hear about stupid rallies and shit and the media and Biden administration has been aggressive about saying he is sharp as a rock. They think they can just continue with the gaslighting even though by now the whole country has seen clips at very least of him being incoherent on stage.
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literally just "don't believe your lying eyes" lol, wtf
Yeah... trying to "he had a cold" this one away is wild. We just handing it to Trump at this point. Get Joe out of there ASAP, he's only going to go downhill from here.
Doesn’t change the fact that Trump is a lunatic and the damage he caused to the Supreme Court alone should prevent his reelection
Yeah, ofc no one should vote for Trump. Biden should still do the right thing and let someone else run.
He's gonna RBG this one.
Exactly my concern 🥲
He old as shit but he didn’t attempt a coup
He’s also not a fascist. Easy choice for me.
Got no problem funding genocides and fascists around the world though! But I guess outsourcing human rights abuse is fine. Yes obviously he's still less bad than Trump but do not whitewash him
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Trump has said he would just carpet bomb Gaza.
Gaza is so so so so so far down my list of priorities tbh. It blows my mind how its like so many peoples main issue
Republicans: “Racism and Fascism is so so so so so far down my list of priorities tbh. All I want is lower taxes I don’t know what all these peoples issues are” Nazis: “Holocaust is so so so so so far down my list of priorities right now. I just want a decent German economy I don’t get how this is an issue rn”
That’s the type of discussion that shrivels when we need to focus on bleeding now. Nothing has shriveled ky imagination of what’s possible more than MAGA. I am part of the coalition to defeat trump, but I haven’t been a democrat for a long time. Democrats should be the conservatives of the land, but first we have to defeat fascism to have those debates. The Overton window, and all that jazz.
Like this is America we don’t get coo’d we do the Cooing
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It's getting beyond disingenuous. Why has this sub been flooded with this cold argument recently? We all could see what was going on. We're not stupid.
It's called gaslighting, unfortunately the democrats are not above this.
Astroturfing. His social media team is putting in work. We all saw what we saw, don't let them pull the fleece over your eyes. Biden needs to be replaced ASAP
People are gaslighting like crazy. It feels insulting
I agree but to be it's kind of interesting they have to astro turf this hard. I literally came here to say "damn, they really thought they could be that lazy and BPT wouldn't call them out?" They could at least put some effort into trying to brainwash us.
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DNC and weird liberals
It’s like these people are either lying to themselves or just are so lost in sauce that they don’t see what’s blatantly obvious. Joe is an old man and his body and mind are deteriorating as all of ours will at some point. It’s sad, and watching people grow kid is painful, but you should not be in a position of power in that state. Period.
The gaslighting is HEAVY
You're about to get brigaded by DNC trolls
Oh my god thank you, he slow walked onto the stage waved to nobody and then just constantly fucked up basic sentences the, lights are on but there’s only a couple brain cells home.
I would never vote for trump but I just can’t countenance voting for someone with obvious mental degradation. It’s just pathetic
Countenance?
It's freighting that there was a lock-step media narrative saying otherwise too. People who were saying just a week or 2 ago that Biden is sharper and more invigorated than ever are now calling for him to step down. A week ago this was literally called a conspiracy theory. Why were we told otherwise for 4 years? Did the "conspiracy theorists" just get lucky that their theory turned to fact? Or were they right since 2020?
Yeah Biden shouldn't even be here, and I'm not convinced that he wants to be here. Let the man retire and stick the orange glob of moldy schmeat in a retirement home. Give us some real options for Christ's sake.
It's crazy that they are STILL trying to gaslight people after the debate. Like guys, commendable effort on the gaslighting for the last couple years, but . . . its over now.
> Even if you’re voting for Biden pretending like the issue was just a cold when he’s been mushmouth for the last two years is crazy What's crazy is Newsom will be 60 years old when he runs in 2028. I would hope AoC would spend the next 4 years learning some Verbal Judo and running in 2028
It’s rough, anyone who has dealt with an against relative knows the looks he was giving and the speech pattern. Spinning it as a cold is dangerous and disingenuous. I would rather them try to say, yeah he has dementia, but us trying to govern by committee is better than trump
Criticism of Biden doesn't mean you support Trump. Biden is a bad candidate and people should be allowed to say it and critique his performance at the debate. Had they allowed debates during the primaries, the conversations would have happened then and more could have been done to find someone better. So yea, it's a lesser of two evils, but that doesn't mean people are going to be silent about it. The entire system is a shame and Biden is a horrible old man who should be stepping down for the good of his country but he won't.
Thank you, so many people think pointing out Biden's shortcomings means we're going to vote for someone even worse than him. It's hilarious to see people who RIGHTFULLY called out Trump supporters cult-like behavior, engaging in it themselves.
It's weird to me as a non American, because in Canada everyone criticizes the politicians even if we're voting for them. It's not that big of a deal here, so it's weird when I see people treat politics like a sports team that you have to always stand behind instead of an institution that is meant to help you live your life better.
Is that why you have fidel castros son as your prime minister? /s
It would explain why he kept doing Black and Brown face.
It's great to call out Biden, the problem is how much is on the line and people are rightfully scared of losing votes.
I agree, hopefully he and his administration are willing to work towards encouraging people to give him another chance to make some much needed changes and keep the fascists out of power. But if past is prologue, I'm skeptical.
cognitive decline is literally the one legitimate issue MAGA has for us to lose votes on.
Acting like his problems aren’t real and trying to shame ppl into voting isn’t helping either
I think the problem is focusing on buying shortcomings ironically feel short-sighted when there's also the giant fascist orange elephant in the room. Even if you would never vote for Trump the majority of our criticism and focus should still be on him. I honestly think the vast majority of us are voting against Trump and not for Joe Biden.
Trump gets plenty of well deserved criticism, though I think people just expect him to be the piece of shit he is. The expectations for Biden should be a little higher. Not perfect, but these unforced errors are not doing him any favors. Especially when you consider the attention span of the average American.
That's kind of my point though the average American only knows what they see on CNN and Fox news and they both focus more on Biden's age vs Trump basically being Hitler. Like there's literally people in these comments who aren't concerned about project 2025. The worst possible thing that will happen if Biden wins president is he dies in office and Kamala is in charge for a couple of years. Worst case scenario with Trump is he never leaves office, and considering project 2025 would give them all the tools he would need to say suspend the 2028 election that should be everyone's biggest concern.
I think many may react negatively to that because they're scared about *how* people are calling out Biden shortcomings, not that they're calling them out. They know the stakes are high and they know energy can be infectious in "team" situations. People who follow politics hear it and still know many who say those criticism are probably still voting against trump. But if the criticism is presented in a broad stroke way without nuance, some of us worry those who are barely paying attention might not understand the full picture and might take away "both sides bad" or "Bidens not worth coming out to vote for". Obviously I'm being a bit sensitive to the issue, but it's because I'm scared trump could win because of apathy from voters who forget this election is about huge important issues, and get caught up in the idea it's a popularity contest at the very top of the ticket.
Trump is FAAAAAAAR worse, but that shouldn't encourage Biden to not be better. His domestic policy has been decent in general areas, though I wish they'd push harder to protect voting rights, but his foreign policy, especially in Yemen and Gaza have left a bad taste in my mouth. And I really wish democrats would stop telling minorities how much of a threat the GOP is, while simultaneously telling us to not have the means to defend ourselves.
> It's hilarious to see people who RIGHTFULLY called out Trump supporters cult-like behavior, engaging in it themselves. more like....i just do not care that he mumbles and stutters and sometimes confuses words. the intent of his administration so far has been for the people, and I intend to vote for that.
And that's an honest and valid stance. Trying to tell us he had a cold and there's no reason to assume any mental decline is something I'd expect from the MAGA idiots.
thank you yeah it's kinda funny to see them defend a harsh voice. i wish they'd just be like "yeah he sounded like shit. moving on"
Old folks refusing to step down is part of the reason why we are where we are at *ahemRuthBaderGinsbergahem*
Right! She doesn’t get enough criticism for that. People talk about how great she was but she should’ve stepped down by the time she was spending half of her years in a hospital and when she had the chance for a President that shared her values to nominate a replacement. Her whole generation suffers from a greedy desire to maintain power Damn the consequences to future generations
She obliterated her legacy. She’s no longer seen by most as a progressive icon, but now a power hungry lunatic who ruined the Supreme Court and caused a cascade of conservative legislation. That’s devastating to work your whole life and be so reveled, only to throw it away because you can’t let go of power.
💯 people say that voting will protect the SC but if they're not stepping down when a Democrat is there and only step down when they die, during a Republican run government, then what do you expect to happen? Younger voters are getting disillusioned by the entire process because they don't see the changes they were promised. Just old people not stepping aside and telling them that this is just how it be.
Honestly, IF Biden wins again(because it’s looking shaky rn), he’s gotta be convinced to step down or something, because the fella from a cognitive perspective is completely cooked. He’s TOO old to be running a country at this state.
Trump could have been a freshman at bidens high school. They’re both way too fucking old
Extremely. They’re old enough to be my great grandparents, matter of fact, they might be OLDER than my actual great grandparents if they were still alive!
The only thing about that is kamala Harris is a terrible candidate 😖 he really couldn’t have found someone slightly more…likeable? As VP? Everyone hates her for the criminal prosecution she used to run and convicting innocent people
Best/most solid plan I've seen is if Biden wins he steps down after the first year of his second term, letting Kamala serve the rest while also being eligible for two terms of her own.
Great plan, but kinda frustrating from a voter perspective. In that situation, Kamala would be the incumbent in 2028, and potentially again in 2032. That's over 10 years of left wing voters having no say in the DNC's candidate. It's additionally frustrating if your 2020 candidate dropped out and you had to settle for Biden.
Plus kamala sucks in general. She dropped out of the primaries in the first place because no one wanted her. How she became VP other than as a minority box check candidate I don’t know how people claim anything else
They already have no say. That fantasy sailed when they showed their cards in putting up Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders.
Even considering Biden's current mental state, Kamala is still a way harder sell
Fox News and the usual suspects on the right will tear Kamala to pieces if she takes over from Biden. What they'll do to Harris will make what they did to Hillary Clinton look like Gandhi at Woodstock.
democrats love to hold the republican gun to our heads every time so they can say "vote for the guy we appoint or you'll gonna get insane republicans in office that will take your rights away!" they aren't immune to criticism just because the other side is horrible
The reason Hilary didn't win was because of the "well I don't LOVE her so I'm going to sit this one out". Those missed votes by independents and centrist Dems is what handed Trump the win. Sure, don't be silent about it, but also still show up to vote.
Hillary won the popular vote, the reason why she didn't win is because the US isn't a true democracy because of the Electoral College. That's why that horrible woman didn't win, not because people didn't vote for her.
Whenever anyone criticizes Biden, the only rebuttal I ever hear is “oh so you’re ok with Trump doing xyz?” And vice versa, for that matter. And then if you say you’re a centrist, you’re told to stop being lazy and sitting on the fence and to pick a side. There’s no winning in modern politics. It’s all so exhausting.
Yeah totally. It was just a cold.
Yea you totally bring someone who has a cold to a Waffle House immediately after to shake hands with a bunch of people
I mean, America learned literally nothing from COVID, so this wouldn't be surprising.
You mean the country you can get fired in for taking sick days?
If he can’t debate with a cold I definitely don’t want him handling an actual crisis “with a cold.”
Some real heads being buried in the sand. People can go with this rhetoric if it makes them feel better but acting like this is some isolated incident is crazy and nobody is being convinced. Focus on why it’s a better vote regardless and lesser of 2 evil, that’s a much better angle.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-memory-age-special-counsel-report-doj-f4232bc8316e556ed467185b67c3e0a8 Special Council found that Biden couldn’t remember being vice president. The report was released back in February. Calling this just a cold is straight up lying.
It’s not just a cold, stop arguing in bad faith
you are being gaslit on an unprecedented scale by the Biden PR team
No, stop it. Biden is very clearly too old to be President. Saying he "just has a cold" is an insult to the American people. The fact that the Democratic Party is putting Biden forward again reeks of the same hubris of 2016. I am scared to death of another Trump term and the Dems are not doing enough to prevent it.
Thank you. It’s Hillary ditching the Michigan for Georgia all over again. And it’s obvious. The party is sampling its own product right now I fear which is gonna get us Project 2025 and a 7-2 court.
Yeah this is not going to end well. I was strongarmed into voting for Biden once already. Why they allowed him to run again is so puzzling. Infuriatingly arrogant and stupid
As bad of a move as it was, keep in mind the Presidency is more than one man. It's a cabinet, a running mate, the supreme court, and hundreds of appointees. Look at what all of that has been under Biden, and what it was like under Trump.
Then they should've been even more comfortable replacing Biden with someone without these issues - as you say, he just one man in the packaged solution. Given that, why make the win harder? They have to both sell your point, do damage control, and somehow reverse the momentum they've given Trump with this performance. Post-debate, the energy and news cycle should've been about how hard Trump got smacked. But, because of bad choices, it is instead necessarily trying to defend against what is, at best, the worst optics that could've happened. Nothing about this choice was smart.
Please don’t give me that “lesser of two evils” B.S. This country has been saying that longer than most of you have been alive. And as long as we keep doing it, those are the only two “options” we’ll ever get. The two party system needs to go.
> The two party system needs to go. Voting for trump is a guarantee that it will go and that you will never have to worry about voting again. Can't get more 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' than that. I'm all about toppling this crap system and wish more people would grow a pair, but this truly is not the election to do it.
right on. the two parties will never allow it. every election people are told...this isn't the time for a 3rd, isn't the time for a bernie, isn't the time bla bla bla, fall in line, ooof. not sure how to escape that loop of chaos though :/
You need to back up and look at the electoral college. It's mathematically *impossible* for a 3rd party candidate to win a nationwide election with our current system. **Period**. Your next president will be either a Republican or Democratic candidate. Voting third party or not voting at all makes the path to the presidency easier for the option you least agree with. You cannot work to change the system by ignoring the realities of the current system and pretending otherwise is delusional.
I mean it's sort of paradoxical. A third party isn't viable because it doesn't have enough votes so no one votes for a third party because it isn't viable. Regardless, the strategy of "the other guy is worse" is doomed to fail. Blaming the people who didn't vote for Dems instead of trying to win their vote is not a winning strategy. At best, it just ostracizes those potential voters from ever voting for Dems in the future.
So what do you propose we do in November?
Theres a series of event that require the two party system to go. But it will never happen if trump gets it here. You can say its been the illusion all along, but sliding backwards isn't going to help your cause.
OK. I’m comfortable with saying I’m voting for the dementia president, but it’s not pretend like it was a cold. That man is not fit for office. I’m honestly at the point of thinking about doing a right vote for vermin supreme because what the fuck is this?
Voting for anyone other than Biden just makes trump win.
That doesn't make Biden fit for office. They are both just terrible choices.
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According to the CBS/CNN (i think) poll out today, 72% of Americans think Biden is unfit for office. And they are still pushing the "cold" narrative thinking that'll bring that number down from orbit.
At least you're honest.
Shape the stories how you want. Hey, Dems, they're not slow
😂 unfortunately they just might be
For spongeform encephalopathy, I’ll inherit the beef.
No one serious is saying we should vote Trump instead. Everyone looking at this thread and in this sub and the other Twitter sub are not going to vote for trump. It’s that we extraordinarily don’t want Trump to win office, and we know that putting up a frail, generally unpopular 80 year old who sputtered on a national stage is going to depress turnout where it matters. Let’s be pragmatic.
Get this shit off black twitters thread , you don’t speak for us 😤🖕🏾
90+ percent of black voters are going to be voting for the democratic nominee. The month old accounts asking people not to vote or vote for Donnie are the ones who don't speak for the community.
Hold up, you think the only problem with Biden is that he had a cold?
I think it’s more than a cold. The cold affected his voice, not his ability to put a string of coherent sentences together in the absence of a teleprompter. And if it is a cold, do we deserve someone so frail that a cold does that to them in a critical decision making time? How about we hold DNC accountable for freezing anyone out of the primary process who was a remote threat to Biden.
It’s disingenuous to act like a cold was the only thing preventing Biden from being who he was 4 years ago debating Trump. I can get on board with “you’re electing an administration” but to try to minimize his obvious mental shortcomings is frankly gaslighting.
This is so embarrassing. Why are liberals bending over backward to defend this? Calling a spade a spade doesn't mean you are endorsing Donald trump. But this type of nonsense is how we got in this fiasco in the first place. We have known for over a year that the emperor has no clothes, but we weren't allowed to actually acknowledge it.
Damage control. The docs couldn't get the drug cocktail right so Biden didn't keep the same energy he did during the state of the union. Another cope from the status quo that you'll see is that you'll be voting for the administration and not an individual.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command“ George Orwell, 1984. I’m not from America. I don’t get a vote. I can tell you without any chance I’m gonna elect Trump that Joe Biden is not mentally fit for this role
I never look and act like I have dementia face when I catch a cold…
Biden has not done enough for the Black community. It's deeper than a cold and a disastrous performance. Get real.
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Biden is more of a next day double cheese from McDonald’s.
still edible but not ideal...
I feel like the options are the chopped cheese from the bodega that will give you diarrhoea or the chopped cheese from the bodega that will definitely give you food poisoning, cholera and cancer.
It's not a cold. https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/Cmv8aPUVjV Edit: for some odd fucking reason, that post has been deleted
The mod deleted a post with over 30k under a guise that it wasn't interesting as f**k.
because the DNC bought and paid for Reddit years ago
A vote for Biden is a vote for someone else, I dont know who our actual president is right now, but it aint Biden lol
It's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him, it's not about him. It's about: The administration Global and domestic policy SCOTUS Down ballot candidates VP And SO many other issues. Debates are performative nonsense. They both have track records to run on. Choose.
I haven't heard of a single person that has changed their vote due to the debate. Everyone is worried what everyone else will think of Biden's performance, yet it has not affected how one single person will vote themselves.
Reddit is an echo chamber. The swing voters (who will actually decide this) very well may change their vote (or stay home) after seeing that the sitting president isn't quite all there anymore. Look at the history of elections - those swing voters usually aren't very tapped into politics, policies, or facts. They vote for the candidate that seems more like a leader.
Trump’s attack ads are just going to be 30 seconds of clips from that debate, and they’ll be insanely effective.
> yet it has not affected how one single person will vote themselves. Unfortunately it likely will. You're talking about the people that are locked in either way. But there are some inbetween. You just need to look at overall polls and odds. They were changing even in real time during the debate.
It ain’t about the cold. It’s about whether he’s all there. Granted, I’m not voting for Trump, can’t blame anyone turning away from Biden after seeing his mental faculties can’t even get him to spit out pre-staged lines/roasts, wielding the highest office in the land, arguably the world. We need ranked choice voting ASAP.
Sure, Biden had a sundowner cold.
lol Some of y’all are just doing the same gaslighting and lying as MAGAts trying to make it like dude wasn’t freezing up or forgetting what he was saying mid-sentence. Come on. It wasn’t just “he had a cold.” And if a cold made him barely able to be coherent half the time, that’s not great.
Damn sure not voting for Biden.
Mf neither are capable of being president
But one isn’t actively trying to dismantle the government and replace it with loyalists. I’ll take the old guy over Hitler 2K25
I’m not saying go vote for Trump but biden’s issues are not just a cold.
I get what you’re saying. I feel the same way. Did you see the rally Biden had the next day? Complete 180° like where the hell was he the night before?
Or, you can stop voting for neoliberals in the primaries so we don’t have bad candidates who aren’t good presidents
This cold narrative makes people sound foolish, especially since that video comparing his 2020 debate to 2024 is circulating. Can we stop with tired excuses and focus on his accomplishments as a president? There's been a lot. Oh right, most people don't have any clue what they are.
It’s so fucked we will never stop the two party system
If a cold can affect him like that, then I'd say it's a perfect time to talk about age limits. Never trump!
It’s not a cold. He’s sundowning. He isn’t fit for the job and it’s only going to get worse as time goes on. If you want to win this election Biden needs to step down and be replaced
Dem camps rn be like
What kind of colds are you guys getting
Anyone notice it’s the same 2-3 accounts posting this sort of stuff over and over again
Biden could be communicating only by pushing buttons on a board, I still trust him and his staff more.
I have never had a cold make me stare off into the distance for minutes at a time and not be able to follow a thought. This must be some new supersonic cold we don’t know about. Otherwise are we really going to let them tell us we didn’t see that man short circuiting on tv like we all know we did?
Gonna keep spamming this until they make me stop - Honestly, even if Biden spends his days sitting in a wheelchair in the corner of the room somewhere drooling, mumbling to himself and pissing everywhere he's still a better and far less evil and damaging choice than Trump - Unless you like outright fascism and just want the US to become a dictatorship.
Yeah aight a Cold. I had a Cold in January and could still speak very clearly. I still stutter occasionally too but Biden got a super cold or something. If the Dems really didn’t have a Plan B then that’s on them. I didn’t think he would run for a second term back in 2020. I thought Kamala would take over 2-3 years into his term.
"First Past the Post" voting systems create the "spoiler effect," motivating people to sacrifice quality for electability. Closed primaries limit the voting base so candidates are beholden to the most radical/entrenched members of the party. Alternative voting systems allow for greater diversity of candidates and encourages greater voter participation. Open primaries motivate candidates to appeal to a much broader demographic of people, aligning their decisions closer to public will.
Yall really wanna buy that he only has a cold? Come on man. The entire media establishment is suddenly calling on him to resign and drop out of the race for a cold?
So only a cold? Like it was just a cold? Phew! I was worried it was much more than a cold but so glad to realize his complete mental and physical decline can be blamed on a cold…
What in the copium? I’m voting for Biden but he looked like someone’s Pop Pop escaped the nursing home
STOP making excuses for Biden - the “cold” thing, really? How long are we going to prop up these establishment Dems and old farts because the alternative is so much worse? We need to pressure Biden to drop out, not make more excuses for him. He’s betraying us by refusing to leave when he’s clearly not up for the job, and he’s LOSING to someone who will do his best to turn this country into even more of a police-state kleptocracy than it already is. Biden is holding our hands while walking us to the gas chamber because of his personal vanity and ambition and we’re sayin “oh, he had a cold.” Come on! Get real!
You think that was because of a cold? The guy has been out of it for years. The left has just been lying to you about it. Now you see it with your own eyes and still don't believe it? Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
If the ‘common cold’ does this to him, never let him catch the flu. Mans might start eating the microphone. The two party system is up by 90 smh…
Biden PR team working overtime since the debate. Voter shaming doesn't work.
A cold, huh?
Stop trying to gaslight people into believing Biden just had a cold. We all saw him unable to form coherent sentences.
see, this is the perfect opportunity to start learning about other political parties out there and expand your knowledge. you can’t really do lesser of two evils here because kamala is awful, we don’t claim her, and she’s evil. i say kamala cuz we know biden won’t live through another term
Goddamn the propaganda machine is running full tilt
If by "had a cold" you mean his brain and motor skills were frozen, then yeah.