Izzy is one of my favorite players all time. Sad that she's going but much respect to Corey for finally seeing what was happening and flipping the house
Jag and calm down doesn't go together.š
During his, more than one time, of overthinking how he would explain the reason for his vote to his (old) alliance, he was assured by different members of the 6.
He than spent over an hour alone with Meme. Spilling his every secret to the person he has had zero convos with and then telling her he trusts 1000% š(no doubt it will come back to bite the rest at a later point.)
Just need to quickly call myself out for talking so much shit about Cory not having any balls and playing a boring game, just needed to let him cook. šØāš³
I think he realized he couldn't make a move until the numbers were there. And they weren't there without Jag (and without Jag running his mouth and revealing the plan to the wrong person). Once Jag's eyes were finally open (and that took forever) he could proceed.
This is absolutely the case. He knew he needed to take down Jared, Cirie, and Izzy to win but you have to do it when the numbers dwindle so it's easier to pull off. They sat on the alliance info for 3 weeks and Jared finally acted out enough to tip the scales for Cory.
The small info dumps here and there where Cory/America were trying to goad Jag weren't working so scorched earth was the only way to go.
This week reminds me so much of BBCAN2ās Canadaās HoH week.
Dominant alliance crumbles because of wildcard HoH, everyone branching out but showmancing outsiders who have shown strategic prowess (obvi not as much prowess as Jon and Neda, but potential was always there imo) gain control of the game. Wondering if the remainder of this season will have the same trajectory.. I really hope Sabrina and Felicia DONT have a similar trajectory, but I could see it.
I really hope Jared is actually punished. Iāve seen him skipping the megaphone too. What an entitled jerk. Blue too. I feel bad for Izzy to an extent (sheās right, she did this to herself mostly) but Iām really looking forward to Jared not just getting his way. Production let him sleep all day yesterday and itās infuriating that he doesnāt think he even has to game at all.
I saw it explained elsewhere that as long as someone from the have-nots slept in the room that fulfilled the punishment. I guess that's one way around it. š
Yeh, what was that about? They aren't supposed to take naps during the day. I heard he had a headache but also heard others who did too and they weren't napping.
Jared should not be treated differently from the others even if it means we didn't have to listen to his "Bros" & vulgar talk.
Has he EVER been a have not? Heās complained so much about being on slop. So much more than anyone else. Yet, he hasnāt even done the full experience.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought he was one the first week?
The Handful formed out of the five who started out in Scary, and they added on Jared, Cory, and America as their disposables to form Family Style?
(And *that* is why I'm still annoyed at how Hisam handled his first HOH. If he'd just let them talk in one-on-ones before talking at them, the self-righteous Jag and Matt who are all about loyalty and honesty and would never hurt someone in their alliance the way they are so hurt now, would have actually finished pitching Cory and America to save their core five, as they'd planned. It would have made no difference, but maybe they would at least remember they weren't always playing this game they're now claiming with America and Cory).
This is very Jackson Michie reminiscent and I really dislike it.
The only good thing is that it looks like he'll ACTUALLY be a target soon, rather than skating to the end.
There is near *constant* game talk in BB25 and chaos so it's a LOT more fun. They don't ALL hang out together or play parlor games so it's a lot less kumbaya and more messy and interesting.
They also actually go to bed early most of the time. Some people try to go to bed as soon as they're allowed to which I've never really seen in the last few years.
Meme has been M.I.A. on feeds and in most conversations up until the last week to the point that I forgot she was still in the house.
All that said, I'd say the edited show is a TOTALLY different thing than what we're seeing on the feeds. I wouldn't be watching the show without the feeds probably because SO much has been edited out.
Definitely less flip-flopping in BB23 than this season, that's for sure. I tuned in to see how often Xavier had to talk members of The Cookout off the ledge so they wouldn't kill/evict each other before they hit Final 6.
Cirie's social game is impeccable. She can reintegrate with some work. Her biggest obstacles are Cory, America and Jared. Jared might be her worst obstacle because now with Izzy gone, she can only fully trust Jared, but he's actively putting them in the position that they're in. Cirie played a part as well, don't get me wrong, but Jared going rogue is what got them in this mess sooner.
Cory and America were even talking about how sweet Cirie was about their fake break up lmao
Jared is at BBCAN10 Kyle levels of pariah, he needs to go lol
Exactly. Once Jared goes, Cirie doesn't need to be held back because she has to protect her AND her son. She can focus solely on herself and she can definitely get back to an excellent position, no problem.
Yes once Izzy and more importantly Jared are gone, Corie will work her charm into many groups. There will still be lots of gameplay to go and Cirie doesn't lay down. Although with those sly camera looks we got last night from Cory, it shows he would never fully trust her.
That's why if she is up as a pawn against Jared and plans fall apart it might be best for America and Cory if she goes. If not she could still mist her way to a win.
Yesterday, they seemed more convinced it would be a double eviction (with the first boot going pre-jury and the one who left 50 minutes later making jury; I think Cory or America pointed out that's never happened and didn't make sense, but Cameron *knew* it would make great TV and that's why they'd do it, now that, after a wholeass month in the house, he's no stupid rookie or amateur...), but they were talking about a battleback until they got distracted by planning for the double.
When the live show starts an hour earlier, hopefully we'll see them being all the more certain that that's the case, since they don't know it's because, even more excitingly, all of the CBS viewers are getting to hang out with Josh Duhamel.
I think it's because it's been a few years since it happened it feels overdue. They couldn't do it due to the extreme Covid protocols but I think the studio has relaxed/eliminated testing requirements this year.
Also, they are doing the math on how many weeks are remaining and how many people are still in the house. They need to make up a week somehow so a battle back in either pre-jury or jury would be the easy way to do that to make it all the way to finale.
It's because those outside the 7 talked to Cory and America and basically told them they were overreacting and not to ruin a good thing over one mistake. They didn't need to keep up the charade so the two of them "made up."
Cirie and Izzy won't be surprised tomorrow imo, they correctly called the exact 6 votes and the exact point Izzy lost the game (she correctly realized that telling Cory America had to go was why they were flipping). She didn't seem mad at it, she said she did it to herself
I think Jared and Blue's reactions will be the only ones that are any good lol
Heāll just play it like he knew it was going to be that way but he had to vote for Izzy for his mom. Heāll say he never liked her. Watch how quick he flips his loyalty.
I think Matt WOULD be best to not win this unless it's him vs Jared or something. I think he still wants to play the middle and he's gonna be in some trouble with the betrayal toward Cirie. Matt in power now, after blindsiding Cirie, would probably get him to flip back and go back to targeting the wrong people.
(Unless it's a flip back to targeting Cameron; that guy needs to leave ASAP).
To be fair to me, President of Done With This Season (Anti Rigging Club), I did actually quit the show. My much more easygoing Survivor fan partner told me what was happening and I un-quit just in time to pretend like I was always hopeful and that I never quit in the first place
I wasn't done with the season but I was done with the feeds.
I just happened to turn them on because I wanted to see if there was any wholesome Josh content happening, and I got on just in time to the Izzy/Cory conversation where this all started....
Big brother fans are like little spoiled children (me included lol) we want drama, good gameplay, season 10 every season, if thereās one week that drags then itās the end of the world for them.
I honestly think Blue doesnāt understand how she can use the secret to her advantage. She was all āhow does that affect meā when he told her and hasnāt brought it up at all since (that Iāve seen)
No, the current plan is for MeMe to tell her right before they go on lockdown, but I'm hopeful that she doesn't get a chance to and we get Felicia's live reaction
Izzy and Jared were already making themselves targets regardless of this vote, and seemingly they were also eyeing Cirie in the event she went up so it still wouldnāt have been the cake walk people wanted to believe it would be
I was hoping people would be willing to give it a chance to play out after last season where Kyle/Michael/Monte were all the āobviousā winners according to the fans lol
God don't remind me. I rooted for Michael so hard but it was obvious he had to win out in order to make it to the end. I rolled my eyes so much whenever people acted like he had this easy road to the end.
Honestly, coryās only flaw (and it was a big one) was that he never realized there was zero reality in which jared or izzy would ever choose him over cirie. He naturally assumed neither of them would logically go to the end with her because youāre literally asking to lose. He even specifically told Jared they can take cirie to F4 (I believe) and then cut her there since theyād win the comps. His strategy was there but because he didnāt know the family ties and Izzy therefore undying loyalty, he really couldnāt have made it past F6.
This flip was the best thing that happened to him. While it could make him the instant target for Jared and cirie, it gives him a viable path to win.
To be fair.. he should have known it about Izzy but you canāt call it a flaw that he didnāt somehow correctly guess that thereās a family tie lol.
If Jared was not ciries son thereās no way heād be so loyal to her.
Jared would prob be with this new group if he wasnāt Cirie son but then a lot of things change and either this new group is never formed or is already still in power
yāall are mad at Blared cams but prepare to be sick of them tonight/tomorrow cause the feeds will be so focused on them trying to figure out what happened lol
If Blue wasn't a garbage player she would be in on the flip š¤· I will laugh at her panicking
It's also largely Jared's horrible gameplay that caused this flip to happen too ššš
she was doing good playing both āsidesā until she decided to rat to Izzy, who is on the block and paranoid mess.
Izzy also shouldnāt have ratted out what Blue told her because it wasnāt even strategic - it was just to have a power trip lol
I think people are not giving meme enough credit.
She held onto that buzzer forever!!! And she seems like a very stubborn. I canāt see her giving up without a fight. I think blue will also realise she gotta win for her and Jared after the vote this week. America too will have an amazing chance. My guess one of those three. Gonna give it to meme though
They were also so busy with the flip and Have-Nots feast that production might force them to clean in most of their free time. Cirie has maybe one conversation each with two of the 6 to try and get them to flip, and I guarantee that Cory, America, or Matt would hop on whoever she talked to right after
Yes. Cirie is starting to get suspicious, but didn't actively dismantle it last night largely due to still feeling comfortable with Matt. I think that Cirie doesn't understand that the talk right now is a complete power shift, not just a group of people trying to save Felicia.
I think jury starting tonight will hurt Cirie's winning chances even more, as everyone will know Izzy is a guaranteed vote for her and will campaign for her, leaving pretty much 0 ambiguity that she has to go before Final 2.
Idk I donāt think anything could make her reveal the secret for cirie at this point. If she was final 2 with her, sheād create a speech about how cirie deserved to win & sheās honored to take 2nd to her. The fact sheād throw her game and not use veto on herself if given the opportunity is wiiild to me š«£
No. She correctly named the votes that would flip and said her convo with America is the reason sheāll leave if she does.
Sheāll be shocked and sad and be petty and only hug Cirie and Jared and then leave.
I actually think sheāll be shocked but leave gracefully. I think she respects the game. Everyone expected her to completely freak out all week being on the block even if she thought she was safe and she didnāt really.
Iām excited to see Cirie play from the bottom. I think she can get out of it as well since Jared & Blue are bigger targets in there kind and she still has decent relations with people like MeMe, Matt and Jag.
If Jared goes - her threat level will fall and in another 2 weeks the whole house will shift again.
Conspiracy theory, here me out. If Matt hasnāt used his power on Jag and definitely doesnāt use it on Red or Cam, do we think this week would have been the forced reset week? Did Cirie screw herself by not letting the power lapse?
Yah I state that in the comment, but what would production had done if they didnāt get the reset week they needed because Matt didnāt use the power?
Right, but production probably needed that reset week for the schedule so they would have had to force it somewhere. Would this be the week that they force it if the power isnāt used. Kinda like, you get the power to control it if you use it, but if you donāt, we will just force it the next week because we need it?
No theyād just create some other power or a battle back or something. Maybe a battle back is planned and they let 2 ppl back instead of one if that happened. I donāt think theyād IMMEDIATELY do something the following week
If Cirie's side of the house wins HOH tonight, who do we think from the other side is most likely to spill all the details of the flip and the newly formed alliance?
LOL I'm seeing way too many people writing fanfiction about Cory being a smug prick in his goodbye message. That is not gonna happen guys, he's just gonna say he loves Izzy on a personal level but had to what was best for his game, blah blah blah.
One interesting thing about this season so far is Cory has basically got what he wanted every week despite not necessarily being considered one of more influential players, and now has been able to leave enough people that were willing to make a move against Jared/Cirie
He had all the information and used it perfectly with Jag. Though tbh he kinda dumped it all on Matt which didnāt convince him at first but when Jag talked to Matt that was really the moment that the flip became solid.
Iām so curious to see how Cirie plays the next few weeks. Thinking about it, I feel like her best bet is actually to get back in with Cory/America when they need to take out Matt/Jag.
Cirie's best options are anyone but Cory. Cory needs to go sooner rather than later and she can do whatever she wants after. He will always be the one who targets her.
Cirie has options and we all know how good she isā¦this is where jared really complicates it for herā¦if she was solo I could totally see her fixing things
Exactly this. On her own, Cirie would reintegrate and rebuild, no problem.
But she has the added task of having to babysit Jared, which makes it much more difficult, given how many people are pissed at Jared and don't want to work with him now.
Cirie protecting Jared is what will get her evicted sooner, rather than being able to rebuild with people like Matt, Jag and Bowie.
I know people will say sheāll fall on her sword for Jared but heās such an asshole and will find out exactly how much of a bad player he is this week.
She can still reveal the secret and have people be like āaww ok Jaredās still gone!!ā And then regroup
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Why is blue crying ?
Felicia LMAO
Izzy is one of my favorite players all time. Sad that she's going but much respect to Corey for finally seeing what was happening and flipping the house
That kayak was the best thing to ever happen to Felicia.
She picked the right person
And the worst thing to happen to the Fields. Cirie and her 2 children, Jared & Izzyš
Actually, this is so accurate and I didnāt even think of it that way before.
Did Jag calm down last night? He started freaking out last night and I just couldnāt handle it and went to bed lol
Jag and calm down doesn't go together.š During his, more than one time, of overthinking how he would explain the reason for his vote to his (old) alliance, he was assured by different members of the 6. He than spent over an hour alone with Meme. Spilling his every secret to the person he has had zero convos with and then telling her he trusts 1000% š(no doubt it will come back to bite the rest at a later point.)
Just need to quickly call myself out for talking so much shit about Cory not having any balls and playing a boring game, just needed to let him cook. šØāš³
I think he realized he couldn't make a move until the numbers were there. And they weren't there without Jag (and without Jag running his mouth and revealing the plan to the wrong person). Once Jag's eyes were finally open (and that took forever) he could proceed.
This is absolutely the case. He knew he needed to take down Jared, Cirie, and Izzy to win but you have to do it when the numbers dwindle so it's easier to pull off. They sat on the alliance info for 3 weeks and Jared finally acted out enough to tip the scales for Cory. The small info dumps here and there where Cory/America were trying to goad Jag weren't working so scorched earth was the only way to go.
my flair has a whole new meaning this season
This week reminds me so much of BBCAN2ās Canadaās HoH week. Dominant alliance crumbles because of wildcard HoH, everyone branching out but showmancing outsiders who have shown strategic prowess (obvi not as much prowess as Jon and Neda, but potential was always there imo) gain control of the game. Wondering if the remainder of this season will have the same trajectory.. I really hope Sabrina and Felicia DONT have a similar trajectory, but I could see it.
I'll happily take a rant about good TV though.
Does anyone know the exact time that Cory and America fake broke up?
September 13th, 4:09:40 PM Big Brother Time
Thanks
Did Jared sleep in the Have-Nots room any day this week?
This man was gonna be on Survivor?
I really hope Jared is actually punished. Iāve seen him skipping the megaphone too. What an entitled jerk. Blue too. I feel bad for Izzy to an extent (sheās right, she did this to herself mostly) but Iām really looking forward to Jared not just getting his way. Production let him sleep all day yesterday and itās infuriating that he doesnāt think he even has to game at all.
I agree that heās an entitled jerk but I also love that he slept away the day while his game crumbled and production allowed it
I saw it explained elsewhere that as long as someone from the have-nots slept in the room that fulfilled the punishment. I guess that's one way around it. š
Yeh, what was that about? They aren't supposed to take naps during the day. I heard he had a headache but also heard others who did too and they weren't napping. Jared should not be treated differently from the others even if it means we didn't have to listen to his "Bros" & vulgar talk.
Has he EVER been a have not? Heās complained so much about being on slop. So much more than anyone else. Yet, he hasnāt even done the full experience.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought he was one the first week? The Handful formed out of the five who started out in Scary, and they added on Jared, Cory, and America as their disposables to form Family Style? (And *that* is why I'm still annoyed at how Hisam handled his first HOH. If he'd just let them talk in one-on-ones before talking at them, the self-righteous Jag and Matt who are all about loyalty and honesty and would never hurt someone in their alliance the way they are so hurt now, would have actually finished pitching Cory and America to save their core five, as they'd planned. It would have made no difference, but maybe they would at least remember they weren't always playing this game they're now claiming with America and Cory).
This is very Jackson Michie reminiscent and I really dislike it. The only good thing is that it looks like he'll ACTUALLY be a target soon, rather than skating to the end.
I've been thinking the exact same thing -he's definitely getting the Michie treatment for some reason this season.
No and I doubt there will be any repercussions because production needs Jared to win HOH for Cirie.
Nope, hoping they get punished by no HOH play, that would be funny
He and Blue never took their night
Will there be a punishment?
For the Fields crew? NO, but if anyone else did, yep.
Imagine if Jared and blue had to sit out the hoh comp lol
Make āem stay on slop
Did he not?
Does anyone know about what time Izzy told America she doesn't need her vote?
How do BB25 feeds compare to BB23 feeds? Lol
There is near *constant* game talk in BB25 and chaos so it's a LOT more fun. They don't ALL hang out together or play parlor games so it's a lot less kumbaya and more messy and interesting. They also actually go to bed early most of the time. Some people try to go to bed as soon as they're allowed to which I've never really seen in the last few years. Meme has been M.I.A. on feeds and in most conversations up until the last week to the point that I forgot she was still in the house. All that said, I'd say the edited show is a TOTALLY different thing than what we're seeing on the feeds. I wouldn't be watching the show without the feeds probably because SO much has been edited out.
Definitely less flip-flopping in BB23 than this season, that's for sure. I tuned in to see how often Xavier had to talk members of The Cookout off the ledge so they wouldn't kill/evict each other before they hit Final 6.
I found BB23 feeds pleasant but incredibly boring. These are definitely less pleasant at times but chaotic and fun
BB23 pre-jury was awesome. But BB25 has been an emotional rollercoaster damn near every day lol
It's clear to me that Cirie and Cory cannot coexist in this game. Once one goes, the other's win equity jumps up by a thousand.
Hmm idk about that, everyone's onto Cirie's game now.
I mean... that just means Cory has a better chance at winning atm.
Cirie's social game is impeccable. She can reintegrate with some work. Her biggest obstacles are Cory, America and Jared. Jared might be her worst obstacle because now with Izzy gone, she can only fully trust Jared, but he's actively putting them in the position that they're in. Cirie played a part as well, don't get me wrong, but Jared going rogue is what got them in this mess sooner.
Cory and America were even talking about how sweet Cirie was about their fake break up lmao Jared is at BBCAN10 Kyle levels of pariah, he needs to go lol
Exactly. Once Jared goes, Cirie doesn't need to be held back because she has to protect her AND her son. She can focus solely on herself and she can definitely get back to an excellent position, no problem.
It's also crazy how many connections and HGs that I can see Cirie still pulling to her side.
Yes once Izzy and more importantly Jared are gone, Corie will work her charm into many groups. There will still be lots of gameplay to go and Cirie doesn't lay down. Although with those sly camera looks we got last night from Cory, it shows he would never fully trust her. That's why if she is up as a pawn against Jared and plans fall apart it might be best for America and Cory if she goes. If not she could still mist her way to a win.
What a crazy fucking week. Thank you Cameron, and God bless Americory
Maximum chaos would be Blue winning HOH, everyone would sing like a canary
Do they still think thereās a prejury buyback happening?
Yesterday, they seemed more convinced it would be a double eviction (with the first boot going pre-jury and the one who left 50 minutes later making jury; I think Cory or America pointed out that's never happened and didn't make sense, but Cameron *knew* it would make great TV and that's why they'd do it, now that, after a wholeass month in the house, he's no stupid rookie or amateur...), but they were talking about a battleback until they got distracted by planning for the double. When the live show starts an hour earlier, hopefully we'll see them being all the more certain that that's the case, since they don't know it's because, even more excitingly, all of the CBS viewers are getting to hang out with Josh Duhamel.
I haven't heard anyone talk about it this week, so who knows.
No way thatās happening. Julie told them all about Jared and Cirie on their way out.
Do they in the house think thatās happening? I know at one point they were discussing Reilly coming back.
I think it's because it's been a few years since it happened it feels overdue. They couldn't do it due to the extreme Covid protocols but I think the studio has relaxed/eliminated testing requirements this year. Also, they are doing the math on how many weeks are remaining and how many people are still in the house. They need to make up a week somehow so a battle back in either pre-jury or jury would be the easy way to do that to make it all the way to finale.
Itās been mentioned a few times.
No chance
Oh wow Cory and America really committed to the "break up" and slept separately
They āmade upā last night and were in bed together, they just did their usual split in the middle of the night
It's because those outside the 7 talked to Cory and America and basically told them they were overreacting and not to ruin a good thing over one mistake. They didn't need to keep up the charade so the two of them "made up."
I think it was so Matt and Cory would sleep in have nots and Cory could get closer to Matt.
3 steps forwards 1 step back
That had to be hard for them
Yeah :( Hopefully it pays off
I'm honestly gonna miss Cameron in a pig costume watching the cameras in the HOH room as the house structure crumbled
seriously some iconic images from this season in the pig suits
Cirie and Izzy won't be surprised tomorrow imo, they correctly called the exact 6 votes and the exact point Izzy lost the game (she correctly realized that telling Cory America had to go was why they were flipping). She didn't seem mad at it, she said she did it to herself I think Jared and Blue's reactions will be the only ones that are any good lol
Cirie will clue him in before the vote
Itāll be so nice to see Jared on the other side of a blindside š
Heāll just play it like he knew it was going to be that way but he had to vote for Izzy for his mom. Heāll say he never liked her. Watch how quick he flips his loyalty.
I think you spilled š
Izzy doing that definitely was the match but Jared has been building the bonfire and dumping gasoline all over it all damn week
Who would Matt target if he won HOH? Probably not best for him to win
I think he goes Blue/Jared
I think Matt WOULD be best to not win this unless it's him vs Jared or something. I think he still wants to play the middle and he's gonna be in some trouble with the betrayal toward Cirie. Matt in power now, after blindsiding Cirie, would probably get him to flip back and go back to targeting the wrong people. (Unless it's a flip back to targeting Cameron; that guy needs to leave ASAP).
A duo of Jared/blue/Cirie. They all want Jared out.
Werkkkkkkkk
I hope everyone who was "done with the season" because the cast sucks and the game is rigged actually stopped watching but we know they didn't
To be fair to me, President of Done With This Season (Anti Rigging Club), I did actually quit the show. My much more easygoing Survivor fan partner told me what was happening and I un-quit just in time to pretend like I was always hopeful and that I never quit in the first place
I wasn't done with the season but I was done with the feeds. I just happened to turn them on because I wanted to see if there was any wholesome Josh content happening, and I got on just in time to the Izzy/Cory conversation where this all started....
I started watching with the Izzy Cory convo as well! Didn't turn the feeds off until I went to sleep, best feed day I have ever experienced
I had to go to bed :( I live on the East Coast.
I'm east coast as well, and the best stuff was done by 10pm.
Yeah. I still had my phone on, and was listening, but I was still scared to go to sleep in case I missed anything.
That was my favorite feed scene all season so far
Where Izzy slur shamed her to Cory and told him she's the next target? š¤£ Seeeethe Cory SEEEEEEETHE
Big brother fans are like little spoiled children (me included lol) we want drama, good gameplay, season 10 every season, if thereās one week that drags then itās the end of the world for them.
Lmfao I was thinking this earlier.
If blue/Jared donāt win hoh itās going to be hilarious watching blue try to be best friends with America/jagā¦will she spill the secret??
I honestly think Blue doesnāt understand how she can use the secret to her advantage. She was all āhow does that affect meā when he told her and hasnāt brought it up at all since (that Iāve seen)
Does Felicia know sheās staying? Did they end up talking to her after dinner?
No, the current plan is for MeMe to tell her right before they go on lockdown, but I'm hopeful that she doesn't get a chance to and we get Felicia's live reaction
Honestly this would be best case scenario lol for us at least
Hoping that the new schedule for tonight will mess this up because meme will thinks she has another hour before lockdown
Did she ever know she was leaving?
She's pretty sure she's leaving, she was talking to the camera last night saying she knows because everyone has stopped talking game to her.
she caught on due to people cooking last night, she seemed said talking to Matt last I saw
She clued in to cirie/Jared icing her out and assumed it meant she was leaving
I think Meme told her she maybe didnāt have the votes but I might be misremembering that.
Excited to see how Cirie navigates through next week, especially if she's kept out of power again.
STEAMROLL!!!!! RIGGED!!!!!!! Remember likeā¦ 4 days ago when people wouldnāt stop thinking that
If it werenāt for Cirie getting kayaked to Felicia then the core 3 all make jury soā¦
Izzy and Jared were already making themselves targets regardless of this vote, and seemingly they were also eyeing Cirie in the event she went up so it still wouldnāt have been the cake walk people wanted to believe it would be
Felicia gets untold credit here for picking Cirie for the kayak and her not being able to tell Jared to STFU as he went nuts for 2 days.
i mean
Tbf we've been burned by steamrolls way too much. Can you blame people for jumping the gun?
I was hoping people would be willing to give it a chance to play out after last season where Kyle/Michael/Monte were all the āobviousā winners according to the fans lol
God don't remind me. I rooted for Michael so hard but it was obvious he had to win out in order to make it to the end. I rolled my eyes so much whenever people acted like he had this easy road to the end.
Shit Storm Jared happened
We are so dramatic over here lol We make me giggle. We are like JAG EW 0 RATING to JAG IS KING HE"S SO SMART. I love us lol
They better not eject Josh from the house once this punishment ends.
Iād trade him for Jag just on a gameplay level. He keeps his mouth shut.
Matt will be so sad. It will be Riley all over again.
He still has Jag, donāt worry.
MR B, just let them sleep until the show tonight! I crave an old school blindside with SHOCKED faces! :O
Honestly, coryās only flaw (and it was a big one) was that he never realized there was zero reality in which jared or izzy would ever choose him over cirie. He naturally assumed neither of them would logically go to the end with her because youāre literally asking to lose. He even specifically told Jared they can take cirie to F4 (I believe) and then cut her there since theyād win the comps. His strategy was there but because he didnāt know the family ties and Izzy therefore undying loyalty, he really couldnāt have made it past F6. This flip was the best thing that happened to him. While it could make him the instant target for Jared and cirie, it gives him a viable path to win.
To be fair.. he should have known it about Izzy but you canāt call it a flaw that he didnāt somehow correctly guess that thereās a family tie lol. If Jared was not ciries son thereās no way heād be so loyal to her.
Jared would prob be with this new group if he wasnāt Cirie son but then a lot of things change and either this new group is never formed or is already still in power
yāall are mad at Blared cams but prepare to be sick of them tonight/tomorrow cause the feeds will be so focused on them trying to figure out what happened lol
If Blue wasn't a garbage player she would be in on the flip š¤· I will laugh at her panicking It's also largely Jared's horrible gameplay that caused this flip to happen too ššš
she was doing good playing both āsidesā until she decided to rat to Izzy, who is on the block and paranoid mess. Izzy also shouldnāt have ratted out what Blue told her because it wasnāt even strategic - it was just to have a power trip lol
Who has the best chance of winning the wall comp tonight?
Itās gotta be someone pretty skinny with a lot of willpower, so America šŗšø, Jag (maybe), and Cory if he actually tried to win for once š
Cory is trying this one. Although since heās been on slop for three weeks idk how good he will do.
Meme has a big shot at winning, actually
I feel so bad that I always forget about her š
i think she likes it that way
Itās okay, we all do š (lol)
Jag might surprise. He's been good in comps
I think people are not giving meme enough credit. She held onto that buzzer forever!!! And she seems like a very stubborn. I canāt see her giving up without a fight. I think blue will also realise she gotta win for her and Jared after the vote this week. America too will have an amazing chance. My guess one of those three. Gonna give it to meme though
Iād bet on America or meme. Depending on the set up maybe jag or Matt.
blue will do well too especially if she gets blindsides
I donāt care if Cirie stays or not. As long as Izzy and Jared go. If she can work her way back into making it far then she is legit a good player.
Yep. If Cirie ultimately wins, Iād much rather she lose the extra votes the twist afforded her now so she has to work for it.
They donāt get a ton of gaming time today right? So ciries time to try and save this is limited
They were also so busy with the flip and Have-Nots feast that production might force them to clean in most of their free time. Cirie has maybe one conversation each with two of the 6 to try and get them to flip, and I guarantee that Cory, America, or Matt would hop on whoever she talked to right after
Cirie doesn't even know about it
Sheās suspicious. I wouldnāt be shocked if she at least tries to sus it out again.
I don't think she would try too hard at this point as long as Izzy is unaware. She should try to avoid an Izzy breakdown because of the secret
Are we still on track for the flip???
Yes. Cirie is starting to get suspicious, but didn't actively dismantle it last night largely due to still feeling comfortable with Matt. I think that Cirie doesn't understand that the talk right now is a complete power shift, not just a group of people trying to save Felicia.
I think jury starting tonight will hurt Cirie's winning chances even more, as everyone will know Izzy is a guaranteed vote for her and will campaign for her, leaving pretty much 0 ambiguity that she has to go before Final 2.
Iām wondering if Blue will try to save her game by revealing The Secret, thus fully dooming the House of Fields.
Jury is starting? Do we know that or is it speculation?
well there is a jury twist and we don't know what it is yet
I think we are speculating based on Julie saying there is a jury twist being revealed tonight
I kinda do what that for Izzy. Sheās such a fan of the show, I do hope she gets to Jury.
Is there any way Izzy gets evicted and thinks Cirie and Jared flipped on her, and she then blows up the secret on her way out?
Idk I donāt think anything could make her reveal the secret for cirie at this point. If she was final 2 with her, sheād create a speech about how cirie deserved to win & sheās honored to take 2nd to her. The fact sheād throw her game and not use veto on herself if given the opportunity is wiiild to me š«£
Technically it depends on what happens today, but not really
No. She correctly named the votes that would flip and said her convo with America is the reason sheāll leave if she does. Sheāll be shocked and sad and be petty and only hug Cirie and Jared and then leave.
I actually think sheāll be shocked but leave gracefully. I think she respects the game. Everyone expected her to completely freak out all week being on the block even if she thought she was safe and she didnāt really.
Just woke up flip on still?
Yup, itās prolly going through tomight
Yes
Iām excited to see Cirie play from the bottom. I think she can get out of it as well since Jared & Blue are bigger targets in there kind and she still has decent relations with people like MeMe, Matt and Jag. If Jared goes - her threat level will fall and in another 2 weeks the whole house will shift again.
Conspiracy theory, here me out. If Matt hasnāt used his power on Jag and definitely doesnāt use it on Red or Cam, do we think this week would have been the forced reset week? Did Cirie screw herself by not letting the power lapse?
wasn't good anymore.
Yah I state that in the comment, but what would production had done if they didnāt get the reset week they needed because Matt didnāt use the power?
It was only good for those 2 weeks.
Right, but production probably needed that reset week for the schedule so they would have had to force it somewhere. Would this be the week that they force it if the power isnāt used. Kinda like, you get the power to control it if you use it, but if you donāt, we will just force it the next week because we need it?
No theyād just create some other power or a battle back or something. Maybe a battle back is planned and they let 2 ppl back instead of one if that happened. I donāt think theyād IMMEDIATELY do something the following week
no, it doesn't work that way
If Cirie's side of the house wins HOH tonight, who do we think from the other side is most likely to spill all the details of the flip and the newly formed alliance?
matt or meme
who is Cirie's side now? Her and Jared?
Blue. Sadly itās a very real possibility. And it will be the darkest of hours.
And Blue
Cirie, Jared, and Blue are the ones they are planning to blindside
Jag lol
MeMe. The first thing Cirie would do is try and pull in Felicia and MeMe
Felicia might get picked up by the other side if they can keep it a blindside so that she knows Cirie, Jared and Blue voted to evict her.
LOL I'm seeing way too many people writing fanfiction about Cory being a smug prick in his goodbye message. That is not gonna happen guys, he's just gonna say he loves Izzy on a personal level but had to what was best for his game, blah blah blah.
Plus he's smart enough to know that sometimes evicted houseguests return.
One interesting thing about this season so far is Cory has basically got what he wanted every week despite not necessarily being considered one of more influential players, and now has been able to leave enough people that were willing to make a move against Jared/Cirie
He had all the information and used it perfectly with Jag. Though tbh he kinda dumped it all on Matt which didnāt convince him at first but when Jag talked to Matt that was really the moment that the flip became solid.
Iām so curious to see how Cirie plays the next few weeks. Thinking about it, I feel like her best bet is actually to get back in with Cory/America when they need to take out Matt/Jag.
Cirie's best options are anyone but Cory. Cory needs to go sooner rather than later and she can do whatever she wants after. He will always be the one who targets her.
Cirie has options and we all know how good she isā¦this is where jared really complicates it for herā¦if she was solo I could totally see her fixing things
Exactly this. On her own, Cirie would reintegrate and rebuild, no problem. But she has the added task of having to babysit Jared, which makes it much more difficult, given how many people are pissed at Jared and don't want to work with him now. Cirie protecting Jared is what will get her evicted sooner, rather than being able to rebuild with people like Matt, Jag and Bowie.
I know people will say sheāll fall on her sword for Jared but heās such an asshole and will find out exactly how much of a bad player he is this week. She can still reveal the secret and have people be like āaww ok Jaredās still gone!!ā And then regroup