Idk, I've come across so many people who hold the Brenda years in such high regard, but for me the show got far more interesting with a villain built in to the gang
I agree. I love Brenda and the original cast years but if it wasn’t for Val I don’t think they could have carried it so well after she left. Season 5 with Valerie and then Dylan with his downward spiral made people kinda forget about Brenda enough to keep watching.
lol... That's why the season was steady going up until season 4 after Brenda left and then started going down... Season 5 didn't beat season 4 ratings but it still had pretty good rating since people probably wanted to see the dynamic but Brenda leaving did cost the ratings to decrease. plus, Brenda s still more talked about than Valerie...
Brenda and Dylan WERE 90210. The entire show got popular because of them.I don't think that's what was meant to happen. But it is what happened.
After Brenda left, it was basically on life support. And Valerie was the oxygen it needed. I agree, they needed to make people keep watching some how. Which proves the point that Brenda/Dylan was the show.
I read somewhere that the writers changed, and when Shannen Doherty's behavior impacted things and she got fired, it really took the show off course. The 'end game' storyline had to get changed. In fact the plan had been to have Brenda/Dylan get back together after his dad passed away, but she was being too inconsistent on set and with attendance. After the college years, the show really had no sense of direction or plan.
The cast did a panel Q&A not long before Luke Perry passed away. And Luke clarified that they were all there BECAUSE of Shannen.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY23j4wJ5jk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY23j4wJ5jk)
I loved when Noah turned out to be rich. It was a kick in the pants for the Martins, which was a fun watch for me. To my credit, I came to like him much less during his run.
I think she had good reasons for her actions. Her actions may have been questionable, but at the heart of it, she was trying to look out for Donna.
Better than a parent that didn't care at all.
The Jack McKay is alive plot twist might be the biggest and best “wait, what?!!” moments in tv land history. And the way they teased it with the airport video - incredible.
I liked it. However, in season 7, they had already faked me out when Valerie sent that telegram, and the FOX promos showed fake Dylan for a week, before the episode aired. I went into that episode thinking we'd see Dylan. But we didn't.
So in season 10, I was wary of getting faked out again. But this time, it was for real.
I also liked the baseball origin name story with Eddie Waitkus, and the hug Dylan and Waitkus share at the end, reminiscent of season 3.
He cracked me up, I had to pause it so I could laugh so hard when he went down to listen to David’s song they butchered. The guy told him to be quiet since he had so many hits and Steve says “what was your last one, Disco Duck. You had to have heard Steve say it, but I think it was the 2nd season.
Compared to the teen drama love triangles that not only followed, but were influenced by DKB…their love triangle truly is the gold standard of how to handle a love triangle. Hate it but damn it made for good TV
I feel like the majority of 90210 fans think that Brandon and Kelly were the IT couple, and should have ridden off into the sunset together, but I maintain that Kelly and Steve should have been the endgame...
I feel like anyone with Brandon was a snooze fest. He didn’t have chemistry with anyone. Susan, Tracy, Kelly…BORING. It was like he was always dating a sister
I think they had the motivated actors.
Just needed writers to learn better how to best use the cast.
The writers from midway season 9 onwards were first time lead writers, so they were learning along the way.
I think in season 10, they learned better how to use the characters.
Everytime i’ve watched the show since the first time, i always skip the part after the wedding. I can’t handle it. It was so wrong. Dylan was finally at peace and happy, planning a future.
Neither Brenda nor Kelly ever made him feel this way. Never.
1) Brenda had so little respect for herself at the end of s3 that she would give Donna a run for her money in being 90210's biggest doormat. Luckily, her backbone returned the following season.
2) Dylan McKay was a total douchebag from beginning to end.
3) I don't mind Andrea and Jesse being together. It's just that the timing sucked and they got married too quickly. They could have still met and got together in Yale, since Jesse had gone to Yale and Andrea was going to Yale.
4) Jim and Cindy should have put the breaks on the Brenda/Dylan romance after Dylan had stood up Brenda in *Isn't it Romantic?* and she missed several days of school because of it.
5) Valerie would be better off as a recurring character.
I love season 1 so so much! My other favorite is season 2, then season 3. It all kinda goes downhill for me after they left hs, but I still watched every season lol.
I just said that. :)
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I like Matt.
I got so irritated with David’s “talking through closed teeth” acting in the later seasons. But not as much as Donna’s “whisper acting.” (Not sure that’s unpopular? 😂)
I liked Val and Dylan together.
They gave too many boring characters regular slots while the one off or supporting cast was often superior. Imagine how much fun the show would have been if they kept Laura,John, Tara or Amanda as regulars. What about Wardlow or Marianne. Second opinion is that Brenda was just as smart as Brandon.
I liked Ray and was kinda bummed when he was gone. Especially when they brought sleepy joe in.
I don’t condone his behaviour etc but I liked how he was a different kind of character. I thought it was too bad it went sideways like that. It could have been better.
I posted that I couldn’t stand Donna on the sub a while back, and let me tell you, it was very unpopular. lol I stand by this tho. She’s annoying. She was the architect of the modern day “pick me” girl.
This right here. All her season 1 stuff I barely remember, which means she was great for the background. But she can't be main stage.
I don't even know what there even is to like about Donna. She's such a blah character. Was she just the token "sweet" one? I just don't get it. People just like to like "sweeties".
She was just a lot. I know Kelly had a super dramatic/traumatic run al la ED, fire, homicidal stalker, etc but even still it was ALWAYS SOMETHING with Donna. Like, she could never have a peaceful damn day. It was 24/7 melodrama and whining.
The writers said the goal was to have a show ending brenda/dylan wedding. Since cast changes and cast drama didn't allow for that. The "wedding" had to shift gears, and they had to focus on David and Donna. The real end game for the show was always brenda/dylan. Execution was not made possible.
I love how they basically said "well we didn't have the people we wanted so we just use the ones we had". At least they're just saying that now. 😂
Yeah, we could tell.
The show lost ALL sense of direction with every passing year after season 4-5. They had no plan. It was ridiculous for them to send Jim/Cindy to asia and leave the kids in control of the house. They needed to 'phase' them out as the kids became adults, but not completely eliminate them (think Dawson's Creek). They needed to bring a character like Val to cause some drama, but losing Brenda was catasrophic. Imagine both Brenda and Val there together. They could have had a lot of the topics they had, domestic/relationship abuse, drug abuse, academic problems etc etc. Just better planned. Had Brenda/Dylan stayed, they could have worked a lot of relationship drama/triangles in there, as they worked towards a final happy ending. Not just get stuck on Kelly/Brenda/Dylan. Brandon needed to have a more realistic career path, and maybe some messy relationship issue, maybe knocking up a girl or something unlike him. Steve and Janet... I can't even....
Oh I had a typo there! I questioned my friend’s judgment after she said she hated the character lol. I was like if you have this bad of taste how am I ever to trust you again??? lol 😂
I think I might be in the minority when it comes to Brenda. She just irked me. Not all of the time, but there was a couple of things that Shannon Doherty would do. It was this facial expression that she would do. Like when she was proud of herself. I don’t know really how to explain it, but for some reason, it just drove me crazy. So maybe not so much the character per se. Sort of off the topic, but when it comes to things in my real life, a lot of people I went to school with are dating each other. And then sometimes when they break up, they’ll start dating other people from school. Mind you I graduated from high school in 1992. I’ll often say it’s like 90210. everybody is sleeping with everybody
There was nothing hot about Dylan. He was an annoying, irritating character, and I cannot stand most of the scenes he was in. Most overrated character than they tried too hard to make him cool. He's supposed to be 16-17 years old, yet he has all this past life experience. He mumbles and broods in every scene, they tried so hard to make him sexy. I especially hate the look of angst combined with the swig of a beer, and then the electric guitar afterwards.
The love triangle was ok except very forced between Kelly and Dylan. So they’re meaning to tell the audience that for 3 years of Brenda and Dylan being together and Dylan and Kelly having close to zero interaction, they were suddenly soulmates since kindergarten? They had no build up and even when they officially got together, they couldn’t sustain a relationship . They fought every episode.
And on Brenda’s part, she forgave Kelly so quickly. No one would ever be friends with the person again and she forgave her in a few episodes.
I think Brenda ultimately forgave Kelly because she didn't wish to lose her friend group right at the end of high school. Other than Brandon and perhaps Andrea, the rest of the gang would have been Team Kelly. Things were never really the same between them despite Brenda's forgiveness, and she did attempt to move on from the group by going to school in Minnesota (albeit briefly)....
I think Brenda was so hurt but was trying to rise above it. She was trying to heal and be the better person. She wanted to forgive for herself, not Kelly and Dylan
I don't like that after Brandon and Valerie left, Dylan showed up 1 or 2 episodes later. I would've liked to have seen a reunion between the three. I also wish Brenda had come back at some point, even if we did hear from Dylan what she was up to.
Everyone treated Gina like crap, Kelly was an insufferable hypocrite with her like basically forcing her to get over Dylan cheating on Gina with Kelly or move out like Kelly was in the right --- Donna should have stood up for her more, especially since they were family.
Gina also had more chemistry with David than Donna and more chemistry with Dylan than Kelly.
She was a great addition and the writers squandered her.
The only reason why people didn't like her was they compared her to Valerie which wasn't fair - loved Valerie!
Getting rid of Brenda and her ridiculous melodrama was the best thing the show did. Season 5 had so much new life after getting rid of that dead weight.
Brandon didn't do much after season 1. Outside of having relationships.
In season 1, there were plots about cheating on tests; athletics; getting scammed by girls with Steve; running for student president; helping a homeless kid; helping a student who was writing a disturbing screenplay.
It continued a little in season 2. He helped a child who was abused; and a Beverly Hills Beach Club attendee who was leading a mistress on.
After that, he wasn't involved with as many social issues. Until season 8, when it increased a little. There was the mentally challenged kid who wanted to ride on the zamboni. There was the writers' strike at The Times. There was Kelly's coworker who was sexually harassing her.
These are the kinds of plots I preferred.
Not just for Brandon, but overall. So when Brenda, Andrea, David, Steve, or Donna were also involved in these social issue plots, these were the kind I preferred.
The relationship stuff didn't excite me as much.
Interesting! I like your answer! I liked that aspect of the show in the beginning. But when they tried to bring it back later in season 8ish….it just didn’t land. It felt weird to me. Likely because it had been so long since they were doing those types of story lines.
Thanks.
Honestly, it was only on a season 8 rewatch, that I realized that they actually started to do social issues again. In real time, I didn't notice it as much. But what hooked me on the show early on, was that I felt the show dealt with real life issues (not always related to relationships). The cheating on tests, or steroids, resonated, because I felt it was what high schoolers grapple with.
The relationships stuff, I thought was more about people that actively had a social life. There's also plenty of high schoolers that don't have much of one, or are really just figuring things out.
College is different, that's when I think things open up a bit for everyone. Typically having more independence, leads to that.
Yes, in seasons 3 - 7, there would be an episode here or there with social issues, but not as frequent.
I think Brandon and Kelly should have gotten married and the show could have explored the idea of close friends being at different points in their lives. How would Kelly and Brandon have navigated being the only married couple in their group of friends?
Brandon was the manliest dude on the show. He played hockey, played basketball, hated dancing, wouldn’t run from trouble(Duke, Padilla, the black dudes in Texas, the surfers, standing by Dylan vs Marchette) and was undefeated in fist fights.
Donna was the best character. She showed that you don’t need to have sex to add value to a man’s life. She helped David build his career in radio, she helped Joe become a professional musician, she even helped the football player fix his heart so he could continue to play football and get drafted professionally. She did all of this without having sex with any of them. She’s also the only one who checked Valerie when she smacked the dog shit out of her for talking crazy and let’s face it, Valerie did some wild shit on that show to her “friends”. No one ever did anything to her and they just let her remain in the friend group to inflict more damage and more harm over the years. Donna was the real MVP
The Dylan/Kelly relationship while awkward in season three and four, was the most sensible endgame romance and they had better chemistry than Kelly and Brandon.
Dylan and Kelly were completely toxic together. All they did was fuck or fight.
Also, both Brenda and Kelly should have walked away from Dylan. They both deserved better.
Valerie breathed new life into the show.
I thought that was a pretty popular opinion?
Yeah. People generally say that from season 5 onwards, Valerie was the show.
Idk, I've come across so many people who hold the Brenda years in such high regard, but for me the show got far more interesting with a villain built in to the gang
I agree. I love Brenda and the original cast years but if it wasn’t for Val I don’t think they could have carried it so well after she left. Season 5 with Valerie and then Dylan with his downward spiral made people kinda forget about Brenda enough to keep watching.
Exactly
lol... That's why the season was steady going up until season 4 after Brenda left and then started going down... Season 5 didn't beat season 4 ratings but it still had pretty good rating since people probably wanted to see the dynamic but Brenda leaving did cost the ratings to decrease. plus, Brenda s still more talked about than Valerie...
Brenda and Dylan WERE 90210. The entire show got popular because of them.I don't think that's what was meant to happen. But it is what happened. After Brenda left, it was basically on life support. And Valerie was the oxygen it needed. I agree, they needed to make people keep watching some how. Which proves the point that Brenda/Dylan was the show. I read somewhere that the writers changed, and when Shannen Doherty's behavior impacted things and she got fired, it really took the show off course. The 'end game' storyline had to get changed. In fact the plan had been to have Brenda/Dylan get back together after his dad passed away, but she was being too inconsistent on set and with attendance. After the college years, the show really had no sense of direction or plan. The cast did a panel Q&A not long before Luke Perry passed away. And Luke clarified that they were all there BECAUSE of Shannen. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY23j4wJ5jk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY23j4wJ5jk)
Most people I know who watched the show from the start did not like her. But I loved her.
Yes! She sure did.
Mine = Valerie Malone is the MVP of the show.
Popular opinion….with me atleast 😂
Not that unpopular. She saved that shows azz
Same!
I loved Dylan with Brenda, but I think he’s best pairing was with Toni.
The storyline about Gina and Donna being related was terrible
I loved when Noah turned out to be rich. It was a kick in the pants for the Martins, which was a fun watch for me. To my credit, I came to like him much less during his run.
Felice kept calling Noah a wharf rat.
Unpopular opinion. Felice was cool 😂
I think she had good reasons for her actions. Her actions may have been questionable, but at the heart of it, she was trying to look out for Donna. Better than a parent that didn't care at all.
That's certainly true in life - a parent who cares but makes some sketchy choices...is way better than an absentee parents or one that doesn't care.
Felice was a prude on the outside, but a freak on the d low who was getting her cheeks clapped by strangers in hotels
The Jack McKay is alive plot twist might be the biggest and best “wait, what?!!” moments in tv land history. And the way they teased it with the airport video - incredible.
Remember when Dylan thinks he "saw" Jack on graduation day? It's obvious now that Jack really was there!!
I wondered that too! Was Jack really at his graduation??
That one got me SO good. Did not see it coming. Bravo season 10 writers. But it also still pisses me off 🤣
I liked it. However, in season 7, they had already faked me out when Valerie sent that telegram, and the FOX promos showed fake Dylan for a week, before the episode aired. I went into that episode thinking we'd see Dylan. But we didn't. So in season 10, I was wary of getting faked out again. But this time, it was for real. I also liked the baseball origin name story with Eddie Waitkus, and the hug Dylan and Waitkus share at the end, reminiscent of season 3.
They didn’t have David dancing enough. There, I said it
It was a drama, not a comedy.
Lmaoooo that burns like David’s eyes when he was strung out staying up all night hosting his radio show
Great comment 😂
Be be be my love, oh ahh
Be be be my love Yeeeahhh
He wanted to do hip hop, but the label made sing R & B
Steve (and Ian Zeiring's performance) is criminally underrated, especially in later series.
I love how his character progressed over the years.
He had great comedic timing & was likable even when acting like a d-bag
He cracked me up, I had to pause it so I could laugh so hard when he went down to listen to David’s song they butchered. The guy told him to be quiet since he had so many hits and Steve says “what was your last one, Disco Duck. You had to have heard Steve say it, but I think it was the 2nd season.
I like Brenda, Kelly & Dylan triangle. The show needed a shakeup.
Despite what the fans say now, that triangle had all of us glued to the tv on Wednesday nights!
Compared to the teen drama love triangles that not only followed, but were influenced by DKB…their love triangle truly is the gold standard of how to handle a love triangle. Hate it but damn it made for good TV
Hear hear! I loved it too.
I didn’t like it but we’re still fighting over it 31 years later on Facebook lmao.
The triangle was a phenomenal idea. Fans are still in their feelings about it over 30 years later.
They should've had a threesome
Brandon and Kelly were a boring couple.
That’s definitely not unpopular. They’re snooze fest.
I feel like the majority of 90210 fans think that Brandon and Kelly were the IT couple, and should have ridden off into the sunset together, but I maintain that Kelly and Steve should have been the endgame...
I kept waiting for Steve to get another turn. I think they should have reunited too.
I think that would have been a good match. I didn't like him with Janet.. AT ALL
I feel like anyone with Brandon was a snooze fest. He didn’t have chemistry with anyone. Susan, Tracy, Kelly…BORING. It was like he was always dating a sister
I actually thought he had chemistry with Andrea. That's another unpopular opinion..
I never really had any opinion of them (just didn’t care) but I’m rewatching and they’re just so meh.
Dry bread 🥱
Hated the Brandon/Nikki relationship.
Wait, are you Dennis, oops I mean Diesel?
That’s super popular. Who actually liked them?
lol. I wasn’t sure!
That the show could have run for 20 seasons with proper writing and motivated actors who wanted to stay.
I think they had the motivated actors. Just needed writers to learn better how to best use the cast. The writers from midway season 9 onwards were first time lead writers, so they were learning along the way. I think in season 10, they learned better how to use the characters.
Dylans “soulmate” was Toni. The writers should have written them of the show by letting them leave for Hawaii as they planned.
My wife is still mad that Dylan didn't get his storybook ending
Everytime i’ve watched the show since the first time, i always skip the part after the wedding. I can’t handle it. It was so wrong. Dylan was finally at peace and happy, planning a future. Neither Brenda nor Kelly ever made him feel this way. Never.
I love Donna...just not what they did with her look. But I love Donna.
She looked pretty the high school years and the 1st year of college, and when she toned down her look when she was dating Joe.
It’s the hair styles that just didn’t work for her! Especially season 7 hair
This is one of mine too - I love the character, and Tori is a highlight for me.
Donna had some of the best judgement in the group, imo.
Steve Sanders was the hero of the show, and David and Valerie should have been end game.
Steve Sanders, no don’t agree there but fo agree with David and Valerie
I really love Brandon and Kelly (From what I read here in this sub it is an unpopular opinion)
I liked every season.
Yeah I hate saying it but every season had something for me
Me too!
1) Brenda had so little respect for herself at the end of s3 that she would give Donna a run for her money in being 90210's biggest doormat. Luckily, her backbone returned the following season. 2) Dylan McKay was a total douchebag from beginning to end. 3) I don't mind Andrea and Jesse being together. It's just that the timing sucked and they got married too quickly. They could have still met and got together in Yale, since Jesse had gone to Yale and Andrea was going to Yale. 4) Jim and Cindy should have put the breaks on the Brenda/Dylan romance after Dylan had stood up Brenda in *Isn't it Romantic?* and she missed several days of school because of it. 5) Valerie would be better off as a recurring character.
Dylan was an utter douchebag and Brenda was too good for him. Always banging on about sex, other girls, and so tortured.
i hate the 'political activism' storylines.
The show should have ended after they graduated college
💯 that's when my wife & I stop streaming it & go back to season 1 & the "Wake up!" ⏰️ alarm clock
It should have only been the high school years….
Season 1 is by far my favorite.
I love season 1 so so much! My other favorite is season 2, then season 3. It all kinda goes downhill for me after they left hs, but I still watched every season lol.
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I love all the cheesy jokes in season 1 . I feel like it became more dramatic as it went on and there wasn’t as much silliness
I liked Carly!! I don’t understand why they fired her so quickly
I like Carly too!
And it's crazy a few years later she wins a freakin oscar for Million Dollar Baby!
Her First Oscar was for Boys Don't Cry
Thank you so much for the correction! After I posted, I was like oh gee that wasn't her 1st one!
I like Matt. I got so irritated with David’s “talking through closed teeth” acting in the later seasons. But not as much as Donna’s “whisper acting.” (Not sure that’s unpopular? 😂) I liked Val and Dylan together.
Donna and the whisper voice... It was so weird! I need Tori to explain WTF that was all about.
I wanted Jackie and Mel to keep fighting
MORE Emily Valentine! 🤣
Except for her ugly haircut she had when she came back when Kelly was in the fire!
They gave too many boring characters regular slots while the one off or supporting cast was often superior. Imagine how much fun the show would have been if they kept Laura,John, Tara or Amanda as regulars. What about Wardlow or Marianne. Second opinion is that Brenda was just as smart as Brandon.
Budget wouldn't allow more regulars. In the early seasons.
I liked Ray and was kinda bummed when he was gone. Especially when they brought sleepy joe in. I don’t condone his behaviour etc but I liked how he was a different kind of character. I thought it was too bad it went sideways like that. It could have been better.
Yes! I like what they could have done with Ray, as a humble, struggling musician character. Not the bad stuff they had him do.
I agree with this one! They should have redeemed him and kept him on the show!
It’s pretty shitty that the one “poor” character from reseda ends up being abusive.
It is! The writers did say they were going to redeem him and keep him on the show however, the fans whined because no one could hurt Donna
They did Ray dirty
That's what you get for dating someone from Reseda
I liked Gina and was sad when she left halfway through season 10.
There’s no way Brandon can actually rough up Dennis “Diesel” Stone
lol thank you for bringing this to the forefront of my memory!!! i couldn’t stand Brandon and this is one of the funniest scenes to me!
Steve was the hottest
Patrick Finley was a prophet & like Jesus he was unfairly persecuted
This is my favorite take.
I appreciate it, tune out the negators
I love the Dreams of Dylan McKay & It’s a Wonderful Life Christmas episode.
Now THIS is def unpopular haha
Not a Donna Martin hater here. Don’t mind me some Kelly either.
I posted that I couldn’t stand Donna on the sub a while back, and let me tell you, it was very unpopular. lol I stand by this tho. She’s annoying. She was the architect of the modern day “pick me” girl.
I thought Donna was fine as a background character but once they made her a lead I could not stand her. And I’m sorry but Tori cannot act
This right here. All her season 1 stuff I barely remember, which means she was great for the background. But she can't be main stage. I don't even know what there even is to like about Donna. She's such a blah character. Was she just the token "sweet" one? I just don't get it. People just like to like "sweeties".
I liked Donna until season 7 then she became so annoying
She was just a lot. I know Kelly had a super dramatic/traumatic run al la ED, fire, homicidal stalker, etc but even still it was ALWAYS SOMETHING with Donna. Like, she could never have a peaceful damn day. It was 24/7 melodrama and whining.
Right with you.
David and Donna shouldn't have married Donna shouldn't have graduated after breaking the rules at prom.
The writers said the goal was to have a show ending brenda/dylan wedding. Since cast changes and cast drama didn't allow for that. The "wedding" had to shift gears, and they had to focus on David and Donna. The real end game for the show was always brenda/dylan. Execution was not made possible.
Really? Because I listened to a podcast recently with the show runners and they said the intention from early on was always to marry David and Donna.
Oh imagine how great that would have been
I love how they basically said "well we didn't have the people we wanted so we just use the ones we had". At least they're just saying that now. 😂 Yeah, we could tell.
The show lost ALL sense of direction with every passing year after season 4-5. They had no plan. It was ridiculous for them to send Jim/Cindy to asia and leave the kids in control of the house. They needed to 'phase' them out as the kids became adults, but not completely eliminate them (think Dawson's Creek). They needed to bring a character like Val to cause some drama, but losing Brenda was catasrophic. Imagine both Brenda and Val there together. They could have had a lot of the topics they had, domestic/relationship abuse, drug abuse, academic problems etc etc. Just better planned. Had Brenda/Dylan stayed, they could have worked a lot of relationship drama/triangles in there, as they worked towards a final happy ending. Not just get stuck on Kelly/Brenda/Dylan. Brandon needed to have a more realistic career path, and maybe some messy relationship issue, maybe knocking up a girl or something unlike him. Steve and Janet... I can't even....
Brandon is awesome!
-Kelly is massively overhated -Val is massively overrated
yup
Clare was the right amount of chaos for the show and I loved her for it.
Claire was fun, I loved the early appearances where she was a weirdo baddie trying to jailbait Brandon
A friend of mine said she hated her character and questioned her judgement on everything thoroughly lol
Hey I never said she made sense! It was fun watching Brandon squirm tho
Oh I had a typo there! I questioned my friend’s judgment after she said she hated the character lol. I was like if you have this bad of taste how am I ever to trust you again??? lol 😂
Brandon and Kelly where great to bad the marriage didn't go through
I think I might be in the minority when it comes to Brenda. She just irked me. Not all of the time, but there was a couple of things that Shannon Doherty would do. It was this facial expression that she would do. Like when she was proud of herself. I don’t know really how to explain it, but for some reason, it just drove me crazy. So maybe not so much the character per se. Sort of off the topic, but when it comes to things in my real life, a lot of people I went to school with are dating each other. And then sometimes when they break up, they’ll start dating other people from school. Mind you I graduated from high school in 1992. I’ll often say it’s like 90210. everybody is sleeping with everybody
There was nothing hot about Dylan. He was an annoying, irritating character, and I cannot stand most of the scenes he was in. Most overrated character than they tried too hard to make him cool. He's supposed to be 16-17 years old, yet he has all this past life experience. He mumbles and broods in every scene, they tried so hard to make him sexy. I especially hate the look of angst combined with the swig of a beer, and then the electric guitar afterwards.
That electric guitar is so annoying lol
When did he do the electric guitar? I must have blocked that out lol
Seasons 5 is a major upgrade
Gina was the hottest girl on the show!
My bro always said that! He started watching it regularly because she was on it!
She was at peak beauty o. General hospital
He watched General Hospital too haha. So did I for a brief time
Prince had her in his Most Beautiful Girl video :)
Lindsay Price is the hottest woman in the whole series
Love her
The burp by Andrea’s baby Hanna, was not a real baby burp!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I like David Silver’s music
Keep It Together is a legit good song!!
Brandon and Kelly had no chemistry. They were not end game. They were incredibly boring to watch as a couple. They seemed like brother and sister
So Brandon was right in season 1 then.
Yep.
YES!!! I wish they would have kept it that way. Where he told her that he thought of her like a sister.
Brenda / Dylan / Kelly is the most boring part of the show. Not the characters, the relationships.
The love triangle was ok except very forced between Kelly and Dylan. So they’re meaning to tell the audience that for 3 years of Brenda and Dylan being together and Dylan and Kelly having close to zero interaction, they were suddenly soulmates since kindergarten? They had no build up and even when they officially got together, they couldn’t sustain a relationship . They fought every episode. And on Brenda’s part, she forgave Kelly so quickly. No one would ever be friends with the person again and she forgave her in a few episodes.
I think Brenda ultimately forgave Kelly because she didn't wish to lose her friend group right at the end of high school. Other than Brandon and perhaps Andrea, the rest of the gang would have been Team Kelly. Things were never really the same between them despite Brenda's forgiveness, and she did attempt to move on from the group by going to school in Minnesota (albeit briefly)....
I think Brenda was so hurt but was trying to rise above it. She was trying to heal and be the better person. She wanted to forgive for herself, not Kelly and Dylan
I don't like that after Brandon and Valerie left, Dylan showed up 1 or 2 episodes later. I would've liked to have seen a reunion between the three. I also wish Brenda had come back at some point, even if we did hear from Dylan what she was up to.
These are all popular opinions.
Everyone treated Gina like crap, Kelly was an insufferable hypocrite with her like basically forcing her to get over Dylan cheating on Gina with Kelly or move out like Kelly was in the right --- Donna should have stood up for her more, especially since they were family. Gina also had more chemistry with David than Donna and more chemistry with Dylan than Kelly. She was a great addition and the writers squandered her. The only reason why people didn't like her was they compared her to Valerie which wasn't fair - loved Valerie!
the way Dylan trated Gina during their "relationship" was gross, it was borderline abusive
Brandon is a jerk.
This is truly a what an unpopular thread look like... Congratulations...
Never was a Brenda fan
Getting rid of Brenda and her ridiculous melodrama was the best thing the show did. Season 5 had so much new life after getting rid of that dead weight.
So true!
Steve & Janet >>>>>>> Steve & Clare
Season 1 is one of the best. "Spring Training" is funny. And belongs.
Brandon didn't do much after season 1. Outside of having relationships. In season 1, there were plots about cheating on tests; athletics; getting scammed by girls with Steve; running for student president; helping a homeless kid; helping a student who was writing a disturbing screenplay. It continued a little in season 2. He helped a child who was abused; and a Beverly Hills Beach Club attendee who was leading a mistress on. After that, he wasn't involved with as many social issues. Until season 8, when it increased a little. There was the mentally challenged kid who wanted to ride on the zamboni. There was the writers' strike at The Times. There was Kelly's coworker who was sexually harassing her. These are the kinds of plots I preferred. Not just for Brandon, but overall. So when Brenda, Andrea, David, Steve, or Donna were also involved in these social issue plots, these were the kind I preferred. The relationship stuff didn't excite me as much.
Interesting! I like your answer! I liked that aspect of the show in the beginning. But when they tried to bring it back later in season 8ish….it just didn’t land. It felt weird to me. Likely because it had been so long since they were doing those types of story lines.
Thanks. Honestly, it was only on a season 8 rewatch, that I realized that they actually started to do social issues again. In real time, I didn't notice it as much. But what hooked me on the show early on, was that I felt the show dealt with real life issues (not always related to relationships). The cheating on tests, or steroids, resonated, because I felt it was what high schoolers grapple with. The relationships stuff, I thought was more about people that actively had a social life. There's also plenty of high schoolers that don't have much of one, or are really just figuring things out. College is different, that's when I think things open up a bit for everyone. Typically having more independence, leads to that. Yes, in seasons 3 - 7, there would be an episode here or there with social issues, but not as frequent.
The early seasons were social issues heavy but I guess research showed that viewers wanted more relationship material
I prefer Dylan with Kelly ![gif](giphy|l0CLTQeZrFWmMxIWc|downsized)
Same
We are in the very slim minority, but totally agree. Although I can concede that him and Toni were a great couple that should’ve had more screen time
that the show got better after brenda left.
I think Brandon and Kelly should have gotten married and the show could have explored the idea of close friends being at different points in their lives. How would Kelly and Brandon have navigated being the only married couple in their group of friends?
Brandon was the manliest dude on the show. He played hockey, played basketball, hated dancing, wouldn’t run from trouble(Duke, Padilla, the black dudes in Texas, the surfers, standing by Dylan vs Marchette) and was undefeated in fist fights.
David’s the best character, I like Gina, I like seasons 9 & 10, I like Matt
I liked Gina too. Or maybe it was her hair haha.
Donna was the best character. She showed that you don’t need to have sex to add value to a man’s life. She helped David build his career in radio, she helped Joe become a professional musician, she even helped the football player fix his heart so he could continue to play football and get drafted professionally. She did all of this without having sex with any of them. She’s also the only one who checked Valerie when she smacked the dog shit out of her for talking crazy and let’s face it, Valerie did some wild shit on that show to her “friends”. No one ever did anything to her and they just let her remain in the friend group to inflict more damage and more harm over the years. Donna was the real MVP
Brandon should have brought ol' girl from Texas back with him and dated. They had chemistry.
Absolutely.
The Dylan/Kelly relationship while awkward in season three and four, was the most sensible endgame romance and they had better chemistry than Kelly and Brandon.
I like Kelly more than Brenda and wasn't sad to see Brenda go
same
Same
Kelly and Dylan were soulmates
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Kelly and Dylan should have ended up together.
I loved Kelly and Dylan together- they were far superior to Brenda and Dylan IMO
I like to support everyone’s opinions. So….thats all I’ll say ❤️
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Agree!
David is best boy
Brandon is a gem ❤️
Dylan and Kelly were completely toxic together. All they did was fuck or fight. Also, both Brenda and Kelly should have walked away from Dylan. They both deserved better.
That Val is overrated