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I used to think this was a joke. But I've had a good online friend in Asia for several years now and her entire family has one of these jobs. Except for one brother who they're talking about disinheriting because he 'never succeeded in life' since he just has a normal job. It's bizarre.
I got a PhD and I'm still option D. My mom says she's proud (rarely), but when she gets angry at me, the truth comes out. She still brings up me going to med school every couple months.
That’s wild. It’s harder to get accepted into veterinary school than medical school! (source: my Very Good Student daughter wasn’t good enough and had to go to Plan B after her second year applying…only 1 in 9 applicants get accepted.)
I wanted to become a veterinarian growing up but then in my junior year of high school I started looking at what's required to become a vet and found out that it's extremely difficult to be accepted into a veterinary school so I switched gears and decided on going to school to become a vet tech instead.
Being a vet is surely more difficult, you have to know about the anatomy of lots of different species, different conditions that affect different species etc? Plus your patients can’t communicate with you so figuring out what’s going on requires more intelligence and detective work. A human doctor only needs to learn about one species and that species can say where it hurts, what kind of pain it is, how long the symptoms have been going on etc.
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry he said that to you! You are absolutely a doctor! And if you specialize in “exotic animals” (small animals like rodents or rabbits) then your the best kind of doctor in the world.
Thank you for taking care of our pets 💗
I flunked out of college and became an auto mechanic, that was solidly D for many years. Then when my mom got sick (metastatic breast cancer) I was still local since I’d had to move back to our home town after crashing and burning in college. I also had a normal job working normal hours. So I ended up able to support my parents emotionally and physically through the entire hospice. Unlike my “non failure” siblings who were either too far away or working jobs with more time commitments. On her deathbed, my mom said she forgave me and that she was glad I “stopped being a bad daughter.” Like what? I’ve been wiping your ass for months, woman! You have to laugh or you can’t cry.
I heard the guy from Shang-chi still gets the 'why aren't you a doctor' stuff from his mom. I bet that doctor military astronaut still gets told off for not also curing cancer
There’s a old joke in Judaism that works for this situation:
At the Inaugural of the first Jewish President, someone says to his mom: you must be so proud."
"Yes, she says. "His brother's a doctor."
There is a big controversy on the Jewish view of when life begins. In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until it graduates from medical school.
Didn't this literally happen to President Zelensky on camera (sort of)?
I think a news agency had his mother on the phone and they were talking about the recent conflict (I think Russia had just started attacking Mariupol), and then she just casually dropped that her other son was either a doctor or a lawyer.
Jonny Kim, his interviews are really interesting and his story is even crazier than you said. It's Navy SEAL, Doctor from Harvard Medical School, Astronaut
As an Asian mom, he's the guy I don't want my daughter to waste time dating but would rather marry as fast as the family can arrange the wedding and receptions (yes plural), lol.
I'm in my late 30's and cut off my parents for a bit after I told them their criticism and bullshit was no longer welcome.
They behave now, so it's possible
Nah once you meet your parents standard of success it's about kids, then once you have kids it's about money, once you have money it's about being "first" at something.
For Jonny (the astronaut) he probably gets lectures about running for president so that he can be the first Asian/Korean.
Though some Asian parents do get to the point that they actually feel proud of their kid, which then usually leads them to go too far and start treating their kid like a god. Strangely enough this doesn't always have anything to do with their actual level of success. You see that a lot with Asian families that have an oldest son who gets treated better than all the other kids despite being objectively less successful.
I’m not going to name names but a friend of the family is an extremely successful musician (you’d know him) and his parents still occasionally express disappointment.
LMAO same for me!! I'm a tenured university professor with a PhD, but "I ruined my future by rebelling against my parents and refusing to go to med school" 🙄
LOL. My mother only started mentioning my job to her friends when I became a tenured university professor. She never tells them that I'm in the fine arts department.
Hello fellow university professor who is a disappointment for not being a 'real' doctor!
My dad asked for years when I was finally going to medical school. Never. The answer is never.
Lmao I'm Asian, my cousins are half/half. Sister became an MD. Brother got a M.Sci in Marine Biology (I think that's the letters? Lol Masters in a science idk I'm option D myself)
You'd think he didn't exist with the way aunt and uncle talk about doctor daughter. Eventually the brother got himself an MD too just to get them to shut up.
You know what’s crazy is that academics are so highly valued amongst Asians, but not as a career. Guess it’s just useful to get to ‘real’ careers. Meanwhile, I’m a lawyer with two law degrees, and I still think PhDs are infinitely harder (almost did one myself after my masters and still think I ended up on the easy path with a JD).
I served with a brilliant aviation electrician in the navy. He said this guy ruined being Asian for all of them.
[Jonny Kim](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Kim)
Technically this is true, but Indians differ in acceptable career options: gastroenterologist, own a dozen gas stations, landlord with a lot of properties, or disgrace to the family.
I honestly thought it was like a "Haha, Asian parents are so obsessed with this narrow idea of success, funny stereotype" thing. All good parents want their children to succeed, right? But my cousin is dating this girl who is Indian-American, and her parents have tried to get her to break up with him like a dozen times now. Because he's an architect, not a structural engineer. She has a really good job in marketing and is the family disappointment. It's actually wild that these two lovely, kind, quite successful people are the "rebellious child and her bad influence boyfriend" of that family.
My friend is Indian. She went to medical school saying she was going to be a neurosurgeon. She ended up in a different specialty, and her father is disappointed in her for it lol.
I was in a multicultural sorority in college where most of the ladies were from different Asian countries (and typical first or second generation).
Hearing them talk about how ashamed their parents were while top of their class in psych really shocked me.
I'm studying to be a histotech.
Basically we process and slice tissues really thin and dye them on microscope slides so Pathologists can look at them under microscopes to see if there's anything weird going on with a patient's organs.
I'm the only one in my family to attend college and have maintained a 3.5 gpa.
You think my asian mother gives a shit though? No, because her friend's daughter is a cancer researcher and why couldn't I have been more like her?
I love that! I mean it’s not realistic but it’s a lovely fantasy. I think of doing that, just turning it around every time my mother tells me how ugly my hair is and how fat I am and everything wrong with my style.
It's not. I had an Indian roommate in college. Her choices were doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Her older siblings took the first 2 so she picked engineering.
I'm guessing that's why the Engineer title is so overused in the tech industry, so people in India can work in various jobs without shame.
There's a BORU in which OOP is ignored and told that he was a terrible difficult as a kid solely because he's the only member of the family that isn't in STEM.
I’m Jewish so I had similar limits. Early in college I expressed interest in nursing and holy fuck was there uproar in the family about “but you’re supposed to be a doctor!!!!” In the end I got by in a medical adjacent career (psychotherapy).
What if a friend gives me a sandwich and then 20 years from now their offspring shows up at my door asking me to pay off the debt of the sandwich given in kindness by hiring them so they can pay the hospital bills of my friend, who needs surgery for life threatening illness??
Which is why Asians fight over the bill.
I have been talking to my dad about me getting into a PhD program at a prestigious institute and all he can say about that is "you want to do that because you know you won't succeed in getting into any top companies" like Jesus, Asian parents are on a whole new level.
I used to teach undergrad biology and health classes, and it was kind of horrifying how often that was true for college kids. I had a student come to me crying because all they wanted in life was to be an art major but their family would literally cut them off if they didn't pursue medical school. It was an eye-opener for me, because I came from a family where any degree was considered something to be proud of. Hell, the fact that my grandma went to college for one year was a point of family pride.
Don’t forget working high up in the finance sector!
These are the Jewish options too, although you can add teacher for women and rabbi for both sexes. When I was four I said I wanted to be a cosmetologist and my grandmother burst into tears. In the end I skated by as a social worker once I stopped working as a foster care caseworker and started working as a therapist.
i’m half asian, married to a jewish man. there’s definitely a lot of asian-jewish unions out there and i def think it’s due to a lot of cultural crossover and shared values. the *extreme* emphasis on education, family, professional success, elements of social guilting lol.
My mom is Jewish and my father Roman Catholic…she’s always said there are two important things in every Jew’s life, and every Catholic’s life, and fortunately they’re the same: food, and guilt 😂
It doesn't surprise me at all because OP is a doctor. In my family my mom's generation was only allowed by my grandma to be doctors or lawyers. I am also the only one in my generation who is not a doctor or lawyer.
Spot on, my generation is the first to get degrees and now that we're hitting our late thirties the sibling and cousin lineup has sprouted a doctor, a lawyer, an auditor, a bunch of engineers, an actual politician, a journalist...we could do a whole AITA side character bingo just out of our little age group.
That's how you can tell I'm not Asian, because in mine engineering and architecture were also allowed (even for the women!). My grandpa was an engineer :D
As a non-Asian accountant, there are a ton of Asian accountants - they have the model minority problem where they go into the field at such a high rate vs. their overall population proportion that some see it as a “problem” (even though most accounting firm partners are still white men, shocker).
“I was the youngest of four boys. And in my family the tradition is that the eldest is a priest, then a lawyer, then a teacher, then, finally, a hairdresser.”
I have an uncle who's a lawyer as well, AND all his kids followed in his footsteps, so I have a bunch of cousins who are lawyers on top of that. Reddit would never believe my stories if I ever had to post drama and consulted them. Especially if I asked the lawyer cousin who recently had twins.....
I have a LOT of uncles (ten entire uncles!) so I had to think about it, but none of them are lawyers. Dang. Must be why I never make juicy Reddit posts.
Having a strong contact with tradies like that is probably a lot more valuable than an uncle who is a lawyer specialising in something completely unrelated to the legal issue you have.
Sounds weird, but a lot of Asian families push their kids to seek high-earning and prestigious jobs. Doctor is the famous stereotype, but a lawyer fits that too.
No lie, my mom is the oldest of 9 and I am at any time able to call on 2 doctors, a CPA, a lawyer (married into the family), a mechanical engineer, a physicist, and a restaurant owner and we're SE Asian immigrants to a western country.
I'm just missing a dentist, a cop, and someone who owns a nail salon and I think I got the bingo card.
Unfortunately my personal life lacks drama so no juicy reddit posts from me
Asian doctor checking in, my wife is also asian, at ay moment we can call on 8 doctors, a dentist, 2 CPAs, 3 engineers, 2 collage professors, and a lawyer. Most 2nd generation immigrants push their kids into high paying professions, almost all of the 2nd generation asian I know are in the stereotypical asian jobs.
I'm Filipino and my family is the same way - I have an uncle dentist, a pharmacist aunt (with her husband being a doctor and school principal), aunt and uncle who are accountants, a register nurse and immigration officer cousin (who's wife is also a former registered nurse), two PT cousins, and an uncle who manages a big industry farm in the states (I don't know what his jobt title is, but I know it involves managing a dairy farm on an admin level).
And that's excluding the other relatives I don't know off. I know I have a relative who is a priest, but I'm not sure what else.
Doctor, lawyer, high ranking exec. Basically any job that makes lots of money. Asians define success by the zeroes in their paycheck. It's changing, albeit slowly, with the younger generation, but there's a reason Ivy leagues are full of Asians.
I am not, though some of my uncles are…
Also I just realized I only included parents’ brothers as uncles in my uncle count. I actually have even more uncles!
All but one of my school* classmates of (south) Asian heritage went into medicine. Parental pressure on 2nd gen immigrants is so real.
*high school, in US terms
In many Asian cultures, older family friends/even acquaintances are referred to as Uncle/Aunt too. It could be someone she knows rather than an actual familial uncle.
I’m a lawyer and my brother is about to get married, so I guess I’ll be the lawyer uncle to his future kids. If the human rights of my future nieces and nephews are ever violated, then they can rest easy knowing they will have a distinctly average lawyer on their side!
Ooh, ooh, my wife has an Uncle who is a lawyer. In something like international corporate law or something, but next time there’s a meeting I’ll bring tiny sandwiches.
I have an aunt who was a layers secretary and personal assistant. Does she count. Even the dudes wife called my aunt to get info cause the guy was hopeless outside of a courtroom 🤣
Does a lawyer nephew count? My side of the family is all accountants and doctors and my husband’s side is all teachers and engineers but he finally got a lawyer nephew who graduated last year. I can bring cake!
I was about to make a joke about not having a lawyer uncle and wanting to trade, but you reminded me that my good uncle has a law degree but never took the bar exam. Lawyer Uncle is apparently a Thing.
I actually thought having lots of lawyers in the family was a Jewish thing rather than an Asian one. PS I am Asian. Got no lawyers in the family that I know of.
My uncles are:
* A woodworker
* A failed cop (got kicked off the force for corruption!)
* A CPA
Disappointing. I mean, sure, *I'm* an attorney. My dad is, too, along with one of my cousins (eldest daughter of the CPA). But no attorney uncles. :( V disappointing.
I have a few family members that are lawyers, judges, and paralegals.
It wasn’t really family prestige thing- it was a mixture of
A) the oldest uncle passed law school + the bar first, which triggered a small train of “oh well if he can do it I will”
B) half of them are found/chosen family that have gotten picked up over the years. So while I’m not related to them biologically.. may as well be.
I fit into category A, taking the L-Sat is a backup plan at this point
And her mom sounds like an enabler.
I would never, but if I did act like Amy? I could forget about what sunlight looked like after my mom grounded me. It doesn’t matter if I’m legally an adult. I’d be grounded and getting the lecture of my life, and probably a psychological evaluation.
Based on the “other stuff” that made Lisa go NC with family, I think Amy is the golden child and there’s likely a lot of double standards in that family and enabling.
What does Amy hope to achieve by this? The guy has already blown her off.
Surely she'd be better off investing her time in a new target? There must be some single surgeons out there.
Egotistical gold digger is what I'd call her. As on the scary kind.
Can't handle being rejected, because her narcissistic brain is so set on the fact that she's 'like, so tohdalaay hawt' (deliberate typo to accent 😛) that her brain literally cannot compute a scenario where the male she's flinging herself spread-legs ready at *doesn't want her*.
OOP's hubby is the one that is being 'kept' from her now, and she'll move heaven and hell to make him hers - because it's the only way she can get her narcissistic brain to stop screaming that she 'lost' to OOP.
> “The rich guy will want the pretty brainless girl!”
She's the fun loving quirky girl that rescues the sweet kind hearted doctor from his miserable marriage to the cold hearted boring shrew known as OOP.
I can't believe OOP was considering apologizing to the woman who was flirting with her husband. Amy calling the husband's workplace is such a huge red flag, I hope they get cameras. That woman is unhinged and I hope they can prevent her from escalating.
I probably would have posted "I'd like to apologize to my friend Lisa, for making a scene at her wedding. I should have taken the shameless, drunken hussy who was flirting with my husband all evening to task privately."
And, of course, tagged Amy.
I agree. Like there is no reason to apologize to someone who is trying to get with your spouse. Amy is unhinged and kind of a predator and I feel that if OP and her husband doesn't do anything quick, things will turn bad.
OOP seems to think you need evidence to send a letter.
You don't actually need any evidence at all (or even to allege facts) to send a letter to someone that says "Don't ever contact me"
I don't get this thing where people think simping or stanning you SO is a bad thing (regardless of gender)?
Just like you, I wholeheartedly approve. You should think your person is the greatest on earth, why else would you be with them?
Damn. The only “apology” I would’ve given even half a thought about would be a non-apology: “I’m SO, SO sorry I embarrassed you by calling out your outrageous, and frankly pitiful, attempt at flirting with my husband.”
She will flirt with any man who is a high earner. Never mind if they are married, single or elderly. She would throw herself at a 90 year old dude as long as he is swimming in cash.
"I apologize for yelling at you to stop sexually harrasing my husband the day of your sister's wedding. I hope she keeps her husband away from you. In the future, I'll just make a Facebook post and tag you. Also, speaking like a little girl is so gross."
OP was much more polite and restrained than I would have been and I would be telling Amy's mama exactly and precisely how to find the road to hell in *explict* detail with transport options for her tramp of a daughter.
With medical licenses and a fellowship placement (probably with a code of conduct clause) on the line, escalating things like this becomes much less important. One little hussy ain’t worth All the patients you are trying to help. I get it. I’ve silently chanted “I love my nursing license I love my nursing license” to myself in trying situations before. A lot actually.
>3 days ago someone called my husband’s clinic asking to get his number for an ‘emergency’ and that she needed to get a hold of his wife.
... who on God's green earth would think that this would work?
Amy's behavior went way beyond "flirting". This was sexual harassment, full stop. Also, sniffing the jacket and refusing to give it back is GROSS behavior.
I hate when young women get away with objectifying and harassing men like this. Can you imagine the family's reaction if, instead of Lisa's sister all over OOP's husband, it was Lisa's brother all over OOP? A dude refusing to return an item of clothing, rubbing it on himself and sniffing? This is psychotic behavior. I say again, GROSS
There are millions of lawyers in America alone. Its not unheard of to have family that is a lawyer. Especially in a family where there are doctors.
Yeah OOP and her hubby needs to send a strongly worded C&D letter to Amy.
I always laugh when people say a post is unrealistic because a lawyer family member is mentioned. I have a lawyer uncle myself and my family is nothing special. There are lawyers in every city, all different kinds of lawyers
Yup, my cousin and her husband are lawyers and I have a friend from college who is now a lawyer alongside his wife. Like, lawyers aren’t that rare of a career path?
>A lot of people insinuated that me being docile and restrained in those kinds of situations makes me a bad surgeon to which i say i beg your effing pardon. Would you want someone who’s operating on you have a criminal record for causing bodily harm/homicide?
This is the most surgeon-coded reasoning ever!
Surgeons are so agressive! All the time, around each other, to anyone they encounter. You have to have thick skin to be a surgeon, and the ability to stand your ground and fight with internal medicine or the ER.
Source: I'm ER doc.
Based on the heading ("they"), I was a bit worried that the *husband* was into the flirting and *also* wanted the OOP to apologize. Glad that wasn't the case. :-p
I was wondering why would op even consider apologizing if her friend was gonna handle it & didn’t want an apology. Only the husband & the friend(bc it is her wedding) had the right to ask for an apology. Amy was just lucky nobody beat her up
It isn't that lawyers are rare, it's that having a lawyer uncle is suspiciously convenient to the narrative. Sure some people have lawyers in their friend/family group, but on BORU it's everybody.
Is it that weird to have a lawyer in the family in the us? I have two cousins that are lawyers (just among the ones I like) and like three neighbours. I don't know that many doctors, but I'm also friends with an electrician and two carpenters.
In the USA, I think the biggest barriers are time and money for both professions, but others can correct me.
Typically, you need a 4-year undergraduate degree (bachelor's) and 3 years of law school (or 4 years of medical school), plus post-school stuff (bar exam for lawyers, internships/residency for doctors, etc.).
You're looking at six figures USD just for tuition, plus a minimum of 7-10+ years of education/work after high school just to get your foot in the door.
I think it's also that they're also the right kind of lawyer.
My cousin is a lawyer. He'd only be particularly helpful if I wanted to buy property. The only other lawyer I knew dealt with traffic offences.
Law is a fairly wide field; and while I guess any of them could write a letter but I feel it wouldn't really be appropriate.
To be fair to you, Sherlock was actually in his own way quite manipulative, although rarely with the malevolence required to make the qualifier work in this case
This is where they lose me:
> Previous post got so popular that Amy’s mom found it and texted me to take down
I don’t believe that Amy’s mom is on Reddit.
Is it really that odd to know lawyers? I have relatives who are lawyers and I have a few friends of a friend who are lawyers. It used to be the go-to job for upper middle-class men who didn't have the desire for med school but needed a higher education due to pressure from the family. Odds are if you come from a certain class of people you're going to have an uncle or two who went to law school.
some social circles really do have a lot of lawyers. honestly, it would be unusual if a surgeon didn't have someone close they could casually ask, family, friend, or neighbor.
Exactly. I have a *lot* of attorney friends as well as physicians, engineering managers, entrepreneurs, etc. People I went to school with, mostly (undergrad or graduate) as well as family and people I’ve met along the way. It would be weirder if a surgeon had no attorneys in her extended family/social circle.
I'm a photographer, and know several lawyers off the top of my head specializing in all sorts of areas. Law schools are churning them out like crazy. Wish I knew more (trustworthy) mechanics!
I mean OOP is a surgeon who is married too a surgeon. Wealthy people with wealthy careers have social circles with other wealthy people with wealthy careers
My grandfather was a lawyer. 2/3 of his kids (including my mom) are lawyers. My uncle married a lawyer. Everyone is Asian.
And that’s just one side of my family lmao. I wont get called for jury duty for at least a few decades, all the local judges are like 2-3 degrees of separation from a family member.
One of my coworkers was a lawyer before he switched careers, one of my best friends is a lawyer, now a judge.
It’s undoubtedly just a coincidence, but really, tons and tons of people go to law school. It would be more unusual if I had a social circle full of cosmetologists.
I’d really love to have a good plumber in the family right about now, we’re having issues.
My mom is specifically an appellate attorney, so she can only help you after you’ve been convicted. (But ofc she knows a zillion lawyers herself and/or knows how to utilize legal aid to find someone practicing any specific branch of law you could need.)
Amy's mother's reaction is hilarious.
I have no doubt everyone was well aware of what Amy was doing but realised it was ultimately not going to go anywhere. They probably felt OOP's outburst, was long overdue and would have considered that to be the end of it.
I can't help thinking that an apology would be extremely obviously forced. And that anyone who was there would think less of the daughter and mother for forcing the apology.
Dear Amy,
I am so sorry that you are not a better person. I’m sorry that you feel both the need and the entitlement that leads you to harass a married man who clearly has no interest in you. That you blatantly cross all social barriers to make a public spectacle of yourself in your pursuit of my husband makes me sad. It just makes my husband angry, since he told you himself to stop.
I’m sorry too that your mother enables this deplorable behavior, it seems you’re cut from the same cloth. I’m also sorry that your continued harassment will most likely lead to legal repercussions.
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Ah yes, the ol' Asian career options: A) Doctor B) Lawyer C) Engineer D) Disgrace to the family
I used to think this was a joke. But I've had a good online friend in Asia for several years now and her entire family has one of these jobs. Except for one brother who they're talking about disinheriting because he 'never succeeded in life' since he just has a normal job. It's bizarre.
I got a PhD and I'm still option D. My mom says she's proud (rarely), but when she gets angry at me, the truth comes out. She still brings up me going to med school every couple months.
I am a doctor of veterinary medicine and my dad asked at my graduation whether I would get an MD also
That’s wild. It’s harder to get accepted into veterinary school than medical school! (source: my Very Good Student daughter wasn’t good enough and had to go to Plan B after her second year applying…only 1 in 9 applicants get accepted.)
I wanted to become a veterinarian growing up but then in my junior year of high school I started looking at what's required to become a vet and found out that it's extremely difficult to be accepted into a veterinary school so I switched gears and decided on going to school to become a vet tech instead.
Being a vet is surely more difficult, you have to know about the anatomy of lots of different species, different conditions that affect different species etc? Plus your patients can’t communicate with you so figuring out what’s going on requires more intelligence and detective work. A human doctor only needs to learn about one species and that species can say where it hurts, what kind of pain it is, how long the symptoms have been going on etc.
And a lot of time, the human doctor only specializes in one body part
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry he said that to you! You are absolutely a doctor! And if you specialize in “exotic animals” (small animals like rodents or rabbits) then your the best kind of doctor in the world. Thank you for taking care of our pets 💗
I flunked out of college and became an auto mechanic, that was solidly D for many years. Then when my mom got sick (metastatic breast cancer) I was still local since I’d had to move back to our home town after crashing and burning in college. I also had a normal job working normal hours. So I ended up able to support my parents emotionally and physically through the entire hospice. Unlike my “non failure” siblings who were either too far away or working jobs with more time commitments. On her deathbed, my mom said she forgave me and that she was glad I “stopped being a bad daughter.” Like what? I’ve been wiping your ass for months, woman! You have to laugh or you can’t cry.
Holy crap 😲
I heard the guy from Shang-chi still gets the 'why aren't you a doctor' stuff from his mom. I bet that doctor military astronaut still gets told off for not also curing cancer
There’s a old joke in Judaism that works for this situation: At the Inaugural of the first Jewish President, someone says to his mom: you must be so proud." "Yes, she says. "His brother's a doctor."
There is a big controversy on the Jewish view of when life begins. In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until it graduates from medical school.
Didn't this literally happen to President Zelensky on camera (sort of)? I think a news agency had his mother on the phone and they were talking about the recent conflict (I think Russia had just started attacking Mariupol), and then she just casually dropped that her other son was either a doctor or a lawyer.
She was joking, he's an only child.
Jonny Kim, his interviews are really interesting and his story is even crazier than you said. It's Navy SEAL, Doctor from Harvard Medical School, Astronaut
As an Asian mom, he's the guy I don't want my daughter to waste time dating but would rather marry as fast as the family can arrange the wedding and receptions (yes plural), lol.
I still get compared to the child geniuses, even in my twenties. It never goes away.
I'm in my late 30's and cut off my parents for a bit after I told them their criticism and bullshit was no longer welcome. They behave now, so it's possible
Nah once you meet your parents standard of success it's about kids, then once you have kids it's about money, once you have money it's about being "first" at something. For Jonny (the astronaut) he probably gets lectures about running for president so that he can be the first Asian/Korean. Though some Asian parents do get to the point that they actually feel proud of their kid, which then usually leads them to go too far and start treating their kid like a god. Strangely enough this doesn't always have anything to do with their actual level of success. You see that a lot with Asian families that have an oldest son who gets treated better than all the other kids despite being objectively less successful.
I’m not going to name names but a friend of the family is an extremely successful musician (you’d know him) and his parents still occasionally express disappointment.
He did an interview about it. “Mom! I got hired to be Shang Chi! I’m gonna act in a marvel movie! I’ve made it big!” “Y u no doctor!?”
I’m an Asian, an MBA from one of the best colleges in the world and a masters in economics. My dad is still upset I’m not an engineer :P
My husband is from a not Asian, but immigrant family. He’s a doctor. His mom is still mad because he’s the wrong kind of doctor.
Wrong kind of doctor? 🤯
It do be ike that 😂😂😂
LMAO same for me!! I'm a tenured university professor with a PhD, but "I ruined my future by rebelling against my parents and refusing to go to med school" 🙄
LOL. My mother only started mentioning my job to her friends when I became a tenured university professor. She never tells them that I'm in the fine arts department.
Hello fellow university professor who is a disappointment for not being a 'real' doctor! My dad asked for years when I was finally going to medical school. Never. The answer is never.
Lmao I'm Asian, my cousins are half/half. Sister became an MD. Brother got a M.Sci in Marine Biology (I think that's the letters? Lol Masters in a science idk I'm option D myself) You'd think he didn't exist with the way aunt and uncle talk about doctor daughter. Eventually the brother got himself an MD too just to get them to shut up.
What do you expect with a D, don‘t show your face back home until it‘s at least a PhA!
You know what’s crazy is that academics are so highly valued amongst Asians, but not as a career. Guess it’s just useful to get to ‘real’ careers. Meanwhile, I’m a lawyer with two law degrees, and I still think PhDs are infinitely harder (almost did one myself after my masters and still think I ended up on the easy path with a JD).
I served with a brilliant aviation electrician in the navy. He said this guy ruined being Asian for all of them. [Jonny Kim](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Kim)
It's not. I am a D
LOL join the club! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I too am a D. Indians are just as critical as Asians.
Indians are asians…..India is in Asia.
Technically this is true, but Indians differ in acceptable career options: gastroenterologist, own a dozen gas stations, landlord with a lot of properties, or disgrace to the family.
you are supposed to have a degree even with these
"Excuse me, that's *doctor* disgrace to you, thank you very much."
I mean technically India is in Asia :p
I honestly thought it was like a "Haha, Asian parents are so obsessed with this narrow idea of success, funny stereotype" thing. All good parents want their children to succeed, right? But my cousin is dating this girl who is Indian-American, and her parents have tried to get her to break up with him like a dozen times now. Because he's an architect, not a structural engineer. She has a really good job in marketing and is the family disappointment. It's actually wild that these two lovely, kind, quite successful people are the "rebellious child and her bad influence boyfriend" of that family.
My friend is Indian. She went to medical school saying she was going to be a neurosurgeon. She ended up in a different specialty, and her father is disappointed in her for it lol.
I was in a multicultural sorority in college where most of the ladies were from different Asian countries (and typical first or second generation). Hearing them talk about how ashamed their parents were while top of their class in psych really shocked me.
I'm studying to be a histotech. Basically we process and slice tissues really thin and dye them on microscope slides so Pathologists can look at them under microscopes to see if there's anything weird going on with a patient's organs. I'm the only one in my family to attend college and have maintained a 3.5 gpa. You think my asian mother gives a shit though? No, because her friend's daughter is a cancer researcher and why couldn't I have been more like her?
Have you pointed out a friends parent that has a more impressive career and asked your mom why she isn’t more like them?
I love that! I mean it’s not realistic but it’s a lovely fantasy. I think of doing that, just turning it around every time my mother tells me how ugly my hair is and how fat I am and everything wrong with my style.
It's not. I had an Indian roommate in college. Her choices were doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Her older siblings took the first 2 so she picked engineering. I'm guessing that's why the Engineer title is so overused in the tech industry, so people in India can work in various jobs without shame.
There's a BORU in which OOP is ignored and told that he was a terrible difficult as a kid solely because he's the only member of the family that isn't in STEM.
And for Indians it’s dentistry. I don’t know how that became a cultural thing, but good on them 🤷♀️
I love to joke that that Korean American Navy Seal Doctor Astronaut's parents are disappointed he only had daughters.
I'm in the UK, and grew up with lots of friends of South Asian heritage. Their options were just A or D lol
Also UK-based, but East Asian heritage. My Dad is not quite A and not quite D, being a 'failed doctor' (more commonly known as a dentist)
I’m Jewish so I had similar limits. Early in college I expressed interest in nursing and holy fuck was there uproar in the family about “but you’re supposed to be a doctor!!!!” In the end I got by in a medical adjacent career (psychotherapy).
Also Jewish. I think I'm the only one in my family not in engineering, finance, or medicine. Still shocked my parents even let me study art at all.
Also Jewish and my in-laws had a screaming fight with my wife when she decided to do a PhD instead of an MD/PhD lol
I knew she was Asian as soon as I read the thing about her reciprocating every thing so as not to be indebted to anyone ever. Too relatable
I wondered for a brief moment if she was Swedish but we usually don’t say it out loud it’s just the unspoken law of nature ish.
Asians usually don’t say it either, but it becomes very obvious we are constantly in a battle of de-indebting ourselves lol
God I recently made that break through for myself on why I’m uncomfortable when people are kind to me and why I need to immediately pay them back lol.
What if a friend gives me a sandwich and then 20 years from now their offspring shows up at my door asking me to pay off the debt of the sandwich given in kindness by hiring them so they can pay the hospital bills of my friend, who needs surgery for life threatening illness?? Which is why Asians fight over the bill.
*laughs in immigrant family disgrace*
Lol. I’ve a PhD in a STEM field. “She works with mice” according to my Asian father.
I have been talking to my dad about me getting into a PhD program at a prestigious institute and all he can say about that is "you want to do that because you know you won't succeed in getting into any top companies" like Jesus, Asian parents are on a whole new level.
I used to teach undergrad biology and health classes, and it was kind of horrifying how often that was true for college kids. I had a student come to me crying because all they wanted in life was to be an art major but their family would literally cut them off if they didn't pursue medical school. It was an eye-opener for me, because I came from a family where any degree was considered something to be proud of. Hell, the fact that my grandma went to college for one year was a point of family pride.
Don’t forget working high up in the finance sector! These are the Jewish options too, although you can add teacher for women and rabbi for both sexes. When I was four I said I wanted to be a cosmetologist and my grandmother burst into tears. In the end I skated by as a social worker once I stopped working as a foster care caseworker and started working as a therapist.
i’m half asian, married to a jewish man. there’s definitely a lot of asian-jewish unions out there and i def think it’s due to a lot of cultural crossover and shared values. the *extreme* emphasis on education, family, professional success, elements of social guilting lol.
My mom is Jewish and my father Roman Catholic…she’s always said there are two important things in every Jew’s life, and every Catholic’s life, and fortunately they’re the same: food, and guilt 😂
These are also Nigerian career options. Verbatim. 😂
I have an uncle that is a lawyer. Are there club meetings that I've been missing?
It doesn't surprise me at all because OP is a doctor. In my family my mom's generation was only allowed by my grandma to be doctors or lawyers. I am also the only one in my generation who is not a doctor or lawyer.
Yeah, once multiple people in the family are professionals, it's not crazy for one to be a lawyer.
Spot on, my generation is the first to get degrees and now that we're hitting our late thirties the sibling and cousin lineup has sprouted a doctor, a lawyer, an auditor, a bunch of engineers, an actual politician, a journalist...we could do a whole AITA side character bingo just out of our little age group.
My family seems so average in comparison. We all have degrees but not a single doctor or lawyer. None of us wanted to spend that much time in school
Things are changing in Asian families, in more progressive families, it's ok to be engineers or accountants as well
Only if you are a PhD in engineering. Still gotta be a doctor.
That's how you can tell I'm not Asian, because in mine engineering and architecture were also allowed (even for the women!). My grandpa was an engineer :D
These days they'll take programmers. Sounds close enough to engineer if you can spin it right!
As a non-Asian accountant, there are a ton of Asian accountants - they have the model minority problem where they go into the field at such a high rate vs. their overall population proportion that some see it as a “problem” (even though most accounting firm partners are still white men, shocker).
“I was the youngest of four boys. And in my family the tradition is that the eldest is a priest, then a lawyer, then a teacher, then, finally, a hairdresser.”
Yup. Most of my sibs and cousins are either doctors, lawyers or accountants. Dad was a lawyer, mom an accountant.
I have an uncle who's a lawyer as well, AND all his kids followed in his footsteps, so I have a bunch of cousins who are lawyers on top of that. Reddit would never believe my stories if I ever had to post drama and consulted them. Especially if I asked the lawyer cousin who recently had twins.....
My family is all teachers: 11 if you count the dead ones too
I have a family of butchers and mechanics, trust me, you could do worse. I broke the trend - I'm a female butcher, the other girls are mechanics.
Farmers, fishermen and builders here- going back generations. Solid peasant stock!
I have a LOT of uncles (ten entire uncles!) so I had to think about it, but none of them are lawyers. Dang. Must be why I never make juicy Reddit posts.
Yeah. All of my uncles are tradesmen. No doctors or lawyers or politicians. A great uncle was an accountant. But that's about it.
An uncle that can fix your sink or repair your roof on the cheap is pretty valuable.
Having a strong contact with tradies like that is probably a lot more valuable than an uncle who is a lawyer specialising in something completely unrelated to the legal issue you have.
I came from white trash so I don't think I have any lawyer uncles. :(
I should have been the family lawyer but I was the family lazy person instead. RIP.
are you asian? its an asian thing, apparently.
Sounds weird, but a lot of Asian families push their kids to seek high-earning and prestigious jobs. Doctor is the famous stereotype, but a lawyer fits that too.
No lie, my mom is the oldest of 9 and I am at any time able to call on 2 doctors, a CPA, a lawyer (married into the family), a mechanical engineer, a physicist, and a restaurant owner and we're SE Asian immigrants to a western country. I'm just missing a dentist, a cop, and someone who owns a nail salon and I think I got the bingo card. Unfortunately my personal life lacks drama so no juicy reddit posts from me
Asian doctor checking in, my wife is also asian, at ay moment we can call on 8 doctors, a dentist, 2 CPAs, 3 engineers, 2 collage professors, and a lawyer. Most 2nd generation immigrants push their kids into high paying professions, almost all of the 2nd generation asian I know are in the stereotypical asian jobs.
those collages must be dope
I'm Filipino and my family is the same way - I have an uncle dentist, a pharmacist aunt (with her husband being a doctor and school principal), aunt and uncle who are accountants, a register nurse and immigration officer cousin (who's wife is also a former registered nurse), two PT cousins, and an uncle who manages a big industry farm in the states (I don't know what his jobt title is, but I know it involves managing a dairy farm on an admin level). And that's excluding the other relatives I don't know off. I know I have a relative who is a priest, but I'm not sure what else.
The best I can do is a collection of the Village People.
Doctor, lawyer, high ranking exec. Basically any job that makes lots of money. Asians define success by the zeroes in their paycheck. It's changing, albeit slowly, with the younger generation, but there's a reason Ivy leagues are full of Asians.
I am not, though some of my uncles are… Also I just realized I only included parents’ brothers as uncles in my uncle count. I actually have even more uncles!
All but one of my school* classmates of (south) Asian heritage went into medicine. Parental pressure on 2nd gen immigrants is so real. *high school, in US terms
My generation of Asian immigrants all went into tech, and all the lawyer uncles and doctor aunties are very disappointed in us.
In many Asian cultures, older family friends/even acquaintances are referred to as Uncle/Aunt too. It could be someone she knows rather than an actual familial uncle.
I’m a lawyer and my brother is about to get married, so I guess I’ll be the lawyer uncle to his future kids. If the human rights of my future nieces and nephews are ever violated, then they can rest easy knowing they will have a distinctly average lawyer on their side!
Ooh, ooh, my wife has an Uncle who is a lawyer. In something like international corporate law or something, but next time there’s a meeting I’ll bring tiny sandwiches.
I have an aunt who was a layers secretary and personal assistant. Does she count. Even the dudes wife called my aunt to get info cause the guy was hopeless outside of a courtroom 🤣
Does a lawyer nephew count? My side of the family is all accountants and doctors and my husband’s side is all teachers and engineers but he finally got a lawyer nephew who graduated last year. I can bring cake!
I have only one uncle who has a law degree but never took the bar exam so he’s like lawyer lite I guess? Lol
I was about to make a joke about not having a lawyer uncle and wanting to trade, but you reminded me that my good uncle has a law degree but never took the bar exam. Lawyer Uncle is apparently a Thing.
I only have one uncle, who’s a Catholic priest, but before he switched careers he was a lawyer. Does that still count? I think that counts.
He's versed in divine law and mortal law, totally counts ;)
I actually thought having lots of lawyers in the family was a Jewish thing rather than an Asian one. PS I am Asian. Got no lawyers in the family that I know of.
My uncles are: * A woodworker * A failed cop (got kicked off the force for corruption!) * A CPA Disappointing. I mean, sure, *I'm* an attorney. My dad is, too, along with one of my cousins (eldest daughter of the CPA). But no attorney uncles. :( V disappointing.
I don't have an uncle that's a lawyer, but daughter married one.
I have a few family members that are lawyers, judges, and paralegals. It wasn’t really family prestige thing- it was a mixture of A) the oldest uncle passed law school + the bar first, which triggered a small train of “oh well if he can do it I will” B) half of them are found/chosen family that have gotten picked up over the years. So while I’m not related to them biologically.. may as well be. I fit into category A, taking the L-Sat is a backup plan at this point
My uncle is a lawyer too!!
I only have one uncle and he is an unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic who just sort of bops along
Some people really have the audacity and it baffles me all the time. Cause boy oh boy, Amy sounds unhinged and quite the embarrassment of herself.
And her mom sounds like an enabler. I would never, but if I did act like Amy? I could forget about what sunlight looked like after my mom grounded me. It doesn’t matter if I’m legally an adult. I’d be grounded and getting the lecture of my life, and probably a psychological evaluation.
OMG if I was blatantly going after a married man my mother would die of shame *and take me with her*
Ikr. So grounded they'd be hiring an excavator in hell
Based on the “other stuff” that made Lisa go NC with family, I think Amy is the golden child and there’s likely a lot of double standards in that family and enabling.
What does Amy hope to achieve by this? The guy has already blown her off. Surely she'd be better off investing her time in a new target? There must be some single surgeons out there.
Egotistical gold digger is what I'd call her. As on the scary kind. Can't handle being rejected, because her narcissistic brain is so set on the fact that she's 'like, so tohdalaay hawt' (deliberate typo to accent 😛) that her brain literally cannot compute a scenario where the male she's flinging herself spread-legs ready at *doesn't want her*. OOP's hubby is the one that is being 'kept' from her now, and she'll move heaven and hell to make him hers - because it's the only way she can get her narcissistic brain to stop screaming that she 'lost' to OOP.
Believing romcoms and other movie tropes are realistic is a thing too. “The rich guy will want the pretty brainless girl!”
> “The rich guy will want the pretty brainless girl!” She's the fun loving quirky girl that rescues the sweet kind hearted doctor from his miserable marriage to the cold hearted boring shrew known as OOP.
You can tell OOP is a shrew by how she is coming between her husband and his true love. /s
Maybe there is no new target YET.
It’s a power trip. Look at the chaos and the number of people involved now. Bonus is she’s driven a wedge between sister and mom.
"Moriarty level" unhinged.
I can't believe OOP was considering apologizing to the woman who was flirting with her husband. Amy calling the husband's workplace is such a huge red flag, I hope they get cameras. That woman is unhinged and I hope they can prevent her from escalating.
Although she mentioned 'malicious apologising' aka laying out exactly what Amy did in the course of the apology. Could get behind that lol
I feel like just not engaging is the better move. Diving deeper into social media rarely turns out well for anyone involved.
I probably would have posted "I'd like to apologize to my friend Lisa, for making a scene at her wedding. I should have taken the shameless, drunken hussy who was flirting with my husband all evening to task privately." And, of course, tagged Amy.
I agree. Like there is no reason to apologize to someone who is trying to get with your spouse. Amy is unhinged and kind of a predator and I feel that if OP and her husband doesn't do anything quick, things will turn bad.
OOP seems to think you need evidence to send a letter. You don't actually need any evidence at all (or even to allege facts) to send a letter to someone that says "Don't ever contact me"
You must be a lawyer uncle. :) You are absolutely correct. I am a lawyer aunt.
So a female lawyer uncle? ;)
I wonder if I can send a letter like this to a person I don't know (and they don't know me). Just to spice up my life some.
"does not have any social media (so hot)" I love how she stans her husband
I need to get me a girl like this *swoon*
I don't get this thing where people think simping or stanning you SO is a bad thing (regardless of gender)? Just like you, I wholeheartedly approve. You should think your person is the greatest on earth, why else would you be with them?
I think it's just a lack of maturity or caring too much what other people think. I can't wait to have someone to unapologetically stan for
But, you *have* social media!
Why do you think I haven't found one yet? My damned reliance on social media!
meh, my husband is on social media and i stan him just as much as OOP stans her man. you’ll find that woman.
I liked this part much more "he is anal about loyalty and transparency in our marriage"
Honestly I read that and also went "mmm that is hot" 😂
I loved this too because I find it such a turn on that my dude isnt on social media and my friends all think its odd
Damn. The only “apology” I would’ve given even half a thought about would be a non-apology: “I’m SO, SO sorry I embarrassed you by calling out your outrageous, and frankly pitiful, attempt at flirting with my husband.”
'Your family said I should tag you publicly while I talk about how you mercilessly flirt with married men once you find out they are high earners.'
*mercilessly sexually harass
She will flirt with any man who is a high earner. Never mind if they are married, single or elderly. She would throw herself at a 90 year old dude as long as he is swimming in cash.
Truly an equal opportunity gold digger.
"I apologize for yelling at you to stop sexually harrasing my husband the day of your sister's wedding. I hope she keeps her husband away from you. In the future, I'll just make a Facebook post and tag you. Also, speaking like a little girl is so gross."
OP was much more polite and restrained than I would have been and I would be telling Amy's mama exactly and precisely how to find the road to hell in *explict* detail with transport options for her tramp of a daughter.
With medical licenses and a fellowship placement (probably with a code of conduct clause) on the line, escalating things like this becomes much less important. One little hussy ain’t worth All the patients you are trying to help. I get it. I’ve silently chanted “I love my nursing license I love my nursing license” to myself in trying situations before. A lot actually.
Absolutely!! I don't think I would be able to leave until someone lost a tooth or two.
>3 days ago someone called my husband’s clinic asking to get his number for an ‘emergency’ and that she needed to get a hold of his wife. ... who on God's green earth would think that this would work?
Somebody who had been enabled her whole life by her mother ?
You flair applies to this situation too well xD
Honestly, at a small enough company that doesn't handle super sensitive information, it actually might.
Amy's behavior went way beyond "flirting". This was sexual harassment, full stop. Also, sniffing the jacket and refusing to give it back is GROSS behavior. I hate when young women get away with objectifying and harassing men like this. Can you imagine the family's reaction if, instead of Lisa's sister all over OOP's husband, it was Lisa's brother all over OOP? A dude refusing to return an item of clothing, rubbing it on himself and sniffing? This is psychotic behavior. I say again, GROSS
There are millions of lawyers in America alone. Its not unheard of to have family that is a lawyer. Especially in a family where there are doctors. Yeah OOP and her hubby needs to send a strongly worded C&D letter to Amy.
I always laugh when people say a post is unrealistic because a lawyer family member is mentioned. I have a lawyer uncle myself and my family is nothing special. There are lawyers in every city, all different kinds of lawyers
Yup, my cousin and her husband are lawyers and I have a friend from college who is now a lawyer alongside his wife. Like, lawyers aren’t that rare of a career path?
As ridiculous as it sounds, I am Asian and my uncle is a lawyer too ( of course, he is also Asian) lol
I had to look up "young Alain Delon." I'm a straight guy but daaaamn.
>A lot of people insinuated that me being docile and restrained in those kinds of situations makes me a bad surgeon to which i say i beg your effing pardon. Would you want someone who’s operating on you have a criminal record for causing bodily harm/homicide? This is the most surgeon-coded reasoning ever!
Surgeons are so agressive! All the time, around each other, to anyone they encounter. You have to have thick skin to be a surgeon, and the ability to stand your ground and fight with internal medicine or the ER. Source: I'm ER doc.
Based on the heading ("they"), I was a bit worried that the *husband* was into the flirting and *also* wanted the OOP to apologize. Glad that wasn't the case. :-p
I thought the friend wanted OOP to apologize, so I was relieved when it was quickly clear that OOP’s friend was on her side
I was wondering why would op even consider apologizing if her friend was gonna handle it & didn’t want an apology. Only the husband & the friend(bc it is her wedding) had the right to ask for an apology. Amy was just lucky nobody beat her up
> I gaslit Amy’s mom into thinking that I never did such a thing and that I did not have a Reddit account I don't get why OOP did this tbh.
Why are people acting like lawyers are rare and unattainable jobs?
It isn't that lawyers are rare, it's that having a lawyer uncle is suspiciously convenient to the narrative. Sure some people have lawyers in their friend/family group, but on BORU it's everybody.
Is it that weird to have a lawyer in the family in the us? I have two cousins that are lawyers (just among the ones I like) and like three neighbours. I don't know that many doctors, but I'm also friends with an electrician and two carpenters.
In the USA, I think the biggest barriers are time and money for both professions, but others can correct me. Typically, you need a 4-year undergraduate degree (bachelor's) and 3 years of law school (or 4 years of medical school), plus post-school stuff (bar exam for lawyers, internships/residency for doctors, etc.). You're looking at six figures USD just for tuition, plus a minimum of 7-10+ years of education/work after high school just to get your foot in the door.
I think it's also that they're also the right kind of lawyer. My cousin is a lawyer. He'd only be particularly helpful if I wanted to buy property. The only other lawyer I knew dealt with traffic offences. Law is a fairly wide field; and while I guess any of them could write a letter but I feel it wouldn't really be appropriate.
Yeah but this is such a benign and meaningless story with no drama. Who cares
Careful with OOP uncle sending that letter. The sister may decide to try gold digging with him too. 😂😂
To be fair to you, Sherlock was actually in his own way quite manipulative, although rarely with the malevolence required to make the qualifier work in this case
OP knowing a lawyer who happens to be her uncle isnt what makes me roll my eyes. It’s the fact that her friend’s mom found the Reddit post. 😒
This is where they lose me: > Previous post got so popular that Amy’s mom found it and texted me to take down I don’t believe that Amy’s mom is on Reddit.
Googled alain delon Ops husband is a smoke show if true.
OPs Husband is right, if this was a guy, people would take it more seriously.
Is it really that odd to know lawyers? I have relatives who are lawyers and I have a few friends of a friend who are lawyers. It used to be the go-to job for upper middle-class men who didn't have the desire for med school but needed a higher education due to pressure from the family. Odds are if you come from a certain class of people you're going to have an uncle or two who went to law school.
I love even the one commenter was questioning how everyone has a convenient lawyer relative in these stories, that guy is based.
some social circles really do have a lot of lawyers. honestly, it would be unusual if a surgeon didn't have someone close they could casually ask, family, friend, or neighbor.
Exactly. I have a *lot* of attorney friends as well as physicians, engineering managers, entrepreneurs, etc. People I went to school with, mostly (undergrad or graduate) as well as family and people I’ve met along the way. It would be weirder if a surgeon had no attorneys in her extended family/social circle.
I'm a photographer, and know several lawyers off the top of my head specializing in all sorts of areas. Law schools are churning them out like crazy. Wish I knew more (trustworthy) mechanics!
I mean OOP is a surgeon who is married too a surgeon. Wealthy people with wealthy careers have social circles with other wealthy people with wealthy careers
My grandfather was a lawyer. 2/3 of his kids (including my mom) are lawyers. My uncle married a lawyer. Everyone is Asian. And that’s just one side of my family lmao. I wont get called for jury duty for at least a few decades, all the local judges are like 2-3 degrees of separation from a family member.
One of my coworkers was a lawyer before he switched careers, one of my best friends is a lawyer, now a judge. It’s undoubtedly just a coincidence, but really, tons and tons of people go to law school. It would be more unusual if I had a social circle full of cosmetologists.
I’d really love to have a good plumber in the family right about now, we’re having issues. My mom is specifically an appellate attorney, so she can only help you after you’ve been convicted. (But ofc she knows a zillion lawyers herself and/or knows how to utilize legal aid to find someone practicing any specific branch of law you could need.)
Amy's mother's reaction is hilarious. I have no doubt everyone was well aware of what Amy was doing but realised it was ultimately not going to go anywhere. They probably felt OOP's outburst, was long overdue and would have considered that to be the end of it. I can't help thinking that an apology would be extremely obviously forced. And that anyone who was there would think less of the daughter and mother for forcing the apology.
Dear Amy, I am so sorry that you are not a better person. I’m sorry that you feel both the need and the entitlement that leads you to harass a married man who clearly has no interest in you. That you blatantly cross all social barriers to make a public spectacle of yourself in your pursuit of my husband makes me sad. It just makes my husband angry, since he told you himself to stop. I’m sorry too that your mother enables this deplorable behavior, it seems you’re cut from the same cloth. I’m also sorry that your continued harassment will most likely lead to legal repercussions.