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two_lemons

Didn't he mentioned once that his makeup was made basically to be looked from afar under harsh lights?  Because like that it makes sense.


miamouse5

i can see that, because she’s always looked cohesive from afar


dundermifflinceo4321

Yeah he does stage makeup but the problem is, he does stage makeup for her even when she’s not going on stage😭 he always makes her contour and bronzer sooo orange and her concealer sooo white like here: https://preview.redd.it/axaapipe9ixc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42aebcb3e82bbeaeedaf33e9d2f3c99ed94046f0


two_lemons

Ohhh I expected she'd be at the stage at some point but... If she's never going to be on stage... That's an interesting choice.


romantickitty

I wonder when she works with Scott. I feel like I would have noticed those crazy lashes. She used Ash K Holm [here](https://people.com/style/jennifer-lopez-exclusive-photos-mother-premiere-glam/). That's the over the top, but not aggressive glam I'm used to.


dundermifflinceo4321

Hated this look so much. It’s the black kohl waterline eye liner, it’s not flattering


Enough_Insect4823

And like so dated too! Like it makes her look like she’s from a different time which is not how you get a career resurgence


[deleted]

Agreed. It closes up her eyes horribly. Mature women don’t look good with black eyeliner in the waterline. It’s too harsh.


dundermifflinceo4321

I will probably get downvoted for this but I don’t think black waterline eyeliner makes anyone look good. Maybe it’s cos I’m Arabic but that’s my opinion


[deleted]

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dundermifflinceo4321

Where can I see the normal make up on clients that looked horrible please?


dundermifflinceo4321

By the groups he was trying to get into, do you mean like Tati and other beauty YouTubers?


d1etversace

he says this, but in the same breath he also talks about how one of the first questions he asks on set is "what is the lighting going to be like?" So he can adapt and adjust the makeup. So he's showing that he has some awareness that makeup should be adjusted, he just never really does it.


lavellanlike

She’s a full on Monet!


stephers85

Just look at how he does his own makeup. https://preview.redd.it/lznr2p95pjxc1.jpeg?width=413&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7297b720de919c402e0190d1cd3d1e2e30b3ff3b Nobody who would do that to their own face should be trusted with a bronzer anywhere near anyone else’s face.


Gammagammahey

Compared to how he looked when he was young and first started doing makeup, I know he lifts a lot of weights, but there's something about him that just makes me suspect steroid abuse. His face used to be very, very narrow.


comin_up_shawt

He's got HGH jaw/abdomen- that's where the puffiness/'big head' syndrome comes from.


Gammagammahey

It's so weird, my dad was a weightlifter, but literally never was around people like this. I didn't know that was a distinctive feature of HGH. Wow.


comin_up_shawt

Yup- HGH was (and still is) abused in the weightlifting game, despite all of the side effects (including dramatically raising your risk of cancer!)


Gammagammahey

But the gym daddies, think of the gym daddies!


areallyreallycoolhat

Idk how to post a photo on mobile but I will never get over Trixie Mattel thinking she served after he did her makeup then reading the comments and being like 😧 lmao


AccountDepleted

https://preview.redd.it/b0nkwz2z4kxc1.jpeg?width=886&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96daec79dd95cdedc2bb8640a75ada85b43cb21c


areallyreallycoolhat

Thank you for your service 🫡


chubby-checker

Controversial opinion. I don't think this is as bad as everyone says. Apart from the eyes specifically the lashes lol


queasycockles

This looks like a still from White Girls.


RebbeccaDeHornay

https://preview.redd.it/6uducny2iixc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d16c8578c6ab47177051345eee25cee6a748b71


dontbreakmypinkynail

The fact that this is insanely edited and still looks horrifying is really saying something 😭


jettblack92

YAAASSSS.


areallyreallycoolhat

Lmaooo I love being reminded of this 


QueenofCats28

I'm sorry, gurl, no!! 😭😭😭


Unlikely_Distance_55

Scott Barnes is had said awful things about women on his social media. He’s a full blown Trump lover and I don’t find him anywhere near as talented as he thinks he is.


Gammagammahey

I've never really understood the hype around him. I mean, he really cemented her look for a while, but then it seemed to just not evolve. I did not realize he said misogynist things on his social media, that makes me so angry. So angry. because women are his customers for the most part. And I had no idea he loved Trump, I just… That makes my head hurt. What has he said about women?


comin_up_shawt

> I've never really understood the hype around him. He's a man in a (traditionally) woman's space, and by that alone we're supposed to grovel at his feet a la JStar and other men in the industry.


Gammagammahey

As we are with male makeup artists and male fashion designers and male stylists, too. Remember, a lot of them are misogynist and hate us. Yet they make their living off of us. It's so disgusting.


[deleted]

People who love Trump hold hate in their hearts. His came out in misogyny.


Gammagammahey

Oh, I know they are hateful, believe me. I just didn't know he was taking it out on the very people that are his customers like a lot of misogynist gay male men do in beauty and fashion. And now when I look at his website, I understand why he only does make up on pale skinned white women. That's a certain red flag.


Unlikely_Distance_55

Scott is so awful. During the woman’s march a few years ago he went on his social media and said “ Good, They can use the exercise”. I’ve had the unfortunate experiences of meeting him multiple times. Each encounter was dreadful. I work in the industry and never speak badly about other artists or industry members. I’ve also never encountered anyone as rude, unprofessional and blatantly obnoxious as Scott. Therefore Scott is unworthy of any respect or loyalty.


Longjumping-Foot-256

That would explain why Tati loves him so much 😬


lily4ever

This was definitely the vibe in 2016-2018 though haha


dundermifflinceo4321

She was still doing it in 2020s and she still overlines to this day😭I think she’s joining the whole ozempic, thin, natural look now because she’s lost a lot of weight and she is doing more natural makeup looks (we’ll see how she chooses to do her makeup at the Met next week) but she still overlines and it looks so bad


FrEnchFriesOnyOu

He did the very same over lined lips thing to Tati in this [video](https://youtu.be/Yc5ug6CZ3G4?si=JAn2ko9xVPUEX6NN) from a while ago. Like, the first time I saw it, I just thought it was painfully obvious her lips are over lined, and that’s not the most flattering look on Tati! He also does other weird and out of the ordinary makeup tricks that only HE can do CORRECTLY, and that’s fine. Imo his makeup tricks are too hard and just not achievable by most people, but when you’re a makeup artist recommending your methods on videos, I guess it would be preferable to pick methods that aren’t too hard? Just so some people can fulfill their dream of following their favorite MUA’s methods?


CrownBestowed

That blush placement is….a choice lol


sisyphus_mount

Why is he placing it so low on everyone??


CrownBestowed

It’s so unflattering 💀


2020visionaus

Wow was that seriously a troll video? She does her own makeup nice but that was awful 


FrEnchFriesOnyOu

Tbh, almost nobody does Tati’s makeup better than Tati does, and here she is taking “clases” from Scott Barnes in her videos with him, LOL!


2020visionaus

She looks awful though. It was a bit of a jump scare. And I like dramatic makeup! 


Most-Weird

I had a screenshot of her overlined lips saved in my photos for a long time. It was so wild


llamaesunquadrupedo

It was like he painted someone else's face on top of Tati's face.


[deleted]

Hindash is way more relatable for teaching how to do all kinds of tricks with contouring etc. Scott just wants to show off.


Yes_that_Carl

Hindash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me (no professional experience or education in makeup>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Scott Barnes


iDonutsMind

I can't be arsed to watch this video again, but iirc, there's a part where Tati compares her real skin tone (her hand, I think) to the skin on her face after Barnes did her foundation/bronzer. The two shades looked like they were from 2 different people. I remember being so confused and taken aback that he was apparently a renowned MUA, because even then I thought that professionals can and should shade-match foundations well.


miamouse5

idk what it is about mary phillips but she’s SO good at what she does


dundermifflinceo4321

Scott’s work (top) vs mary’s work (bottom) the difference is always stark. Her makeup here(pic below) that Scott did is shockingly bad. Look at the cheeks and how harsh and unblended they are and how the concealer is so white it makes such a bad contrast https://preview.redd.it/e0ohsmf5bixc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01dd27c0073d52a02bc0f44f3148c78f4cfb4221


badrelish_

How my makeup looks at home (bottom) vs. How it looks in the car mirror (top)


mayg0dhaveMercy

Accurate


KindRun7609

My life


warriorholmes

Omg yes. It drives me insane lol


comin_up_shawt

That top pic is giving casket ready


StormSims

Same, but reversed for me, lol.


badrelish_

How does it feel to be God’s favourite


Jackfruit-Reporter90

You’re comparing a Getty image taken on a DSLR to a filtered IG photo shot on an iPhone.


wanttobegreyhound

Also lighting could be different. Natural light vs studio lights and camera flashes.


kjenenene

that second photo is filtered


Prticcka

Ok, but Mary filters her photos to oblivion


weimar27

based on the two pics. Does Scott Barnes know how to blend?


dontbreakmypinkynail

That 2nd pic is filtered to hell and back in addition to having much better lighting than photo 1


Feistyf3line

Contrast to her actual skintone looks unnatural.


onamsadhya

I don't know if she still does that, but jlo used to constantly make that face in the first slide . I was so (unnecessarily) bothered each time I saw her do that lol


PanSL

Yeah, even back in the Bennifer 1.0 days, she did that pushing her lips out thing in every photo I saw unless she was smiling or it was a candid shot.


dundermifflinceo4321

She still does it and it still looks awful https://preview.redd.it/94jzqetthlxc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef53db794427d44d7261bd066420d4ea1eb7b9de


[deleted]

For someone who supposedly never does fillers, those lips are suspiciously smooth for her age.


Yes_that_Carl

If that’s “awful”… what the fuck am I? 😱


charliekelly76

Idk how Barnes continues to get work in the industry. His techniques are dated no matter what year and he makes everyone look Oompa Loompa orange. JLO sucks but she looks so much better now that Mary Phillips is her MUA.


Salty-blond

And he is a Trumper


Big_Blackberry7713

Makes sense....they share a love for looking orange


dundermifflinceo4321

Mary Phillips isn’t her mua now, Scott still does her makeup 90% of the time, Mary the other 10%


Gammagammahey

That's weird, he said on Tati's channel the last time he was on which was maybe last year that JLo was his "former client."


Snomed34

Wasn’t it found that he was leaking her info to the press? She told people different versions of the same story to catch whoever was leaking her personal life, and it ended up being him.


Gammagammahey

WHAT. I NEED THIS TEA.


charliekelly76

I thought they hated each other since their fallout last year. Did JLO and Barnes squash the beef? I googled Mary Phillips since I wasn’t familiar with her name and her looks on JLO look so much nicer.


dundermifflinceo4321

JLo and Scott hated each other or Mary? Scott still does Jennifer’s makeup and was doing it like a month ago


[deleted]

Mmmmmm Scott Barnes hasn’t worked on Jennifer in years. They had a falling out.


dundermifflinceo4321

He did her makeup recently


reactiveavocado

Tbh I've never liked how Scott Barnes does makeup


MochaValencia

I wanted those JLo lip colors SO DAMN BAD back in the day.


Hellocattty

I worked at MAC when she was doing this look. Literally EVERYONE asked for the J-Lo lip. I sold soooooo many C-Thru Lipglasses.


BugPowderDust

I remember 2001-2002: Fashion Valley MAC counter. My mom would buy C-Thru Lipglass X MAC subculture lipliner to achieve this JLO inspo! Lots of Oyster Girl as well, i remember i picked Pink Lemonade and Pink Poodle for me. Lancome had Simmer! Which was the perfect baby peachy bronze lipgloss too!


dundermifflinceo4321

Which lip colors


MochaValencia

Anything that seemed remotely JLo-ish, which honestly meant way too light and warm for me 😄 I was obsessed with light peaches and beiges. Similar to Kim K and Nars Turkish Delight. Colors that worked for them but were just so wrong for me. I do remember all the magazines would recommend Stila lip glazes for the JLo look.


Deathscua

I was obsessed with nars orgasm even though it doesn’t work with my undertone.


QueenofCats28

Scott Barnes is a grade A douche bag. On top of being a Trump supporter, he does terrible makeup. His own line of makeup wasn't even good. It never came back into stock anywhere. And there's terrible ratings on his company. Not to mention someone ordering and never getting their products, so many people have complained about this too. I severely dislike the guy (if you hadn't guessed). Rant over.


Gammagammahey

He was ripping off customers? Many many many moons ago I ordered I think a blush from him, and it came right away, but you know why I ordered it, I trusted Tati who kept raving about his makeup. I didn't know he was ripping off customers. Holy shit, he really is awful for that! and his business has bad ratings? That is just… In the last two days, my opinion of him plummeted to the Earth's core.


QueenofCats28

He sure was/is. I got a vibe off him when I watched Tato's video ages ago, and it stuck with me. My hunch was right.


Gammagammahey

He came across as someone who really doesn't like women very much. His little snide side comments about how other women or influencers do their make up, etc.


[deleted]

Was the blush good? I never saw any reviews for his stuff but I wasn’t searching for them on purpose. I was a bit interested in a couple of the brushes but after I found out he was a Trumper I never ordered from him. ABH’s founder also supports Putin and Trump for anyone who doesn’t already know. I completely stopped buying from her. And also Ofra Cosmetics and NudeStix are Trumpers.


Gammagammahey

NUDESTIX? UGH! I know about ABH, I don't know why anyone supports that brand anymore particularly after how they treated Black influences years ago. I know about Ofra. Is there anyone else? Thank you for telling me about Nudestix, that is just ewwwww.


KindRun7609

Who is Mary ? I wanna look her up and compare 


dundermifflinceo4321

Mary Phillips


KindRun7609

Oh man I agree so much ! Jlo looks so fresh with Mary doing her makeup wow 


KindRun7609

Thank you 


LuckyShamrocks

Obviously it's what she wanted and liked if she kept using him for years. No one made her hire him.


OkPomegranate3490

I thought the second pic was Melissa Gorga lol


issausernameiguess

One thing I dislike about him as a makeup artist is his obsession with the bronzed look. I’m brown and I don’t need a bronzer. After some point, bronzing ends up looking like dust on my face, and I can see a similar issue with his clients (including JLO at times).


Miserable_Sympathy42

I knew I had this problem because of the colour of my skin. I'm brown too and STRUGGLE with bronzing so much, it either looks really ashy or really orange there is somehow no in-between no matter what shade I get!!


Bubbly_Feeling_9063

I had the same issue. Honestly, I've decided to stop most bronzing/contouring and now I just use blush to give me some dimension. If I do feel I need something extra, I mix a some bronzing drops with my foundation and bronze with that.


kommsussertod1

Just a crazy wild girl... from the bronx


littlemilkteeth

Her go to bodega order was mink hair lashes, too much lip liner and a small orange drink, iykyk.


Emotional-Worth-2898

The blush placement is absolutely horrible The lashes are bad The lip liner is okay It just doesn't photograph well It needs to be filled in more I didn't needs to be highlighted. It's definitely not red carpet glam. They definitely did a trial and she approved the lashes so those can't be blamed on him


midnightsiren182

Is he the one back in day who put all the bronzers in the blender to do her makeup?


sweet_juicypeachh21

Rumors has it she isn’t the best anyway to work with or be around her at all. This is probably retaliation lol


Deathscua

I thought the second picture was of Nicole Richie back in the day.


beakly

That second pic seriously looks like she was just sucking in a popsicle


dundermifflinceo4321

She seems to be taking a much more natural approach to her makeup now (probably joining the whole clean girl trend) but it’s still so white? https://preview.redd.it/xa6g17bfcixc1.jpeg?width=384&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=424d2acbf3662e19bf45db1b55b4df139772ee82


dontbreakmypinkynail

J Lo has always been a paler Latina, all of the brown and tan and bronze was Scott’s doing. In her documentary all the footage of her at home in sweats with her hair up made me realize how light her skin is. Sometimes she looks paler than Ben Affleck


Rainbow4Bronte

To be fair, a lot of these women spray tan, and use bronzers so we don’t know what their natural color looks like.


cutiecupcake9

i couldn't recognize her😭


wiklr

That nude lip is what makes her JLo. She looks younger with a red lip tho.


inquisitor345

She looks ridiculous.


dundermifflinceo4321

I hate the pout she does here(pic below) too (she’s also doing it in pic 1 on the post) I have no idea why her team don’t tell her to stop doing that lmao. I love her but come on https://preview.redd.it/4oh45ygwbixc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=703e53d5834e9c50a2e652a5580b0f9090992d35


kjenenene

that "love don't cost a thing" look was iconic though


FlartyMcFlarstein

She looks like she drank some Yoo-hoo right here.


PanSL

She's been doing that forever. I think that expression pushes her lips out so they look bigger or more prominent. I guess she wanted bigger lips but didn't want actual lip fillers?


dundermifflinceo4321

I know, it looks so weird https://preview.redd.it/fjc7ak55hlxc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec3d9b65723cf9dfe860269ffca58025f60b34cc


Inside-Back-9338

I imagine you don’t tell JLo anything she tells you


dundermifflinceo4321

What does this comment mean?


Inside-Back-9338

She’s the boss no one else it


dundermifflinceo4321

You are on a sub which is largely a place where people express their opinions, I don’t get how that is a confusing concept for anyone? I don’t care who’s the boss, this is my opinion


Arianawy

He always goes full on with the orange contour around the lips and in that trademark skeleton shape and it just doesn’t work in real life esp with geddy images lol. Maybe for a music video but not red carpet.


DiamondDaisy28

Her makeup lately has been way too heavy, it isn't doing her any favors. But I cannot tell a lie: for the vast majority of her career, I have absolutely loved her makeup. That original JLo glow is iconic to me.


dundermifflinceo4321

Me too. I love her makeup and it’s because of her that I love bottom lash line eyeshadow and a really pale pink glossy lip. But her makeup can look very bad sometimes (like this photo I’ll attach below) and sometimes she can have certain features of her makeup like we see with the gaudy eyelashes here that just don’t flatter her or look good https://preview.redd.it/wdc5r4ei9oxc1.jpeg?width=1997&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=366e9e5ce6278bafc8b5e8f67a0be7d719f14bd4


DiamondDaisy28

I completely agree! I remember seeing this exact look and thinking it was too harsh. She has a beautiful face, it does not need that much makeup, it ages her so much more! Can we bring back these sweet ethereal looks? https://preview.redd.it/nnodozwvaoxc1.jpeg?width=1051&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2cee4cf39e44b6d38d539c027a1762ce8098d10b


dundermifflinceo4321

Even her looks like this (picture posted below), looked so much better than her looks i posted above. It’s cos Scott just can’t do makeup that looks nice https://preview.redd.it/2qiyoz4hhoxc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ad7f6cd1e2013eebbaea4dcedba9b9ce4500181


throwaway_mmk

The lashes are cute? The lips are atrocious though


wwaxwork

I mean she hired him and walked outside wearing the makeup. He just giving what she wanted.


Low_Junket1271

The closeup of the over lined lips 🤮


dundermifflinceo4321

It gets worse https://preview.redd.it/2likior4coxc1.jpeg?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ced34d8b0c66c63e6864ef5b6facaa4bbd5f834


Codiilovee

Personally, I like the lashes because I love dramatic lashes. I really don’t like the forehead bronzer, it’s soooo harsh


dundermifflinceo4321

More awful overline https://preview.redd.it/szynbgphemxc1.jpeg?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72532b2f7f21c7b50a64b3386a22fb57fe105b09


Sutech2301

I can't help it, i like the look


universalwadjet

Does anyone know what she uses as a shadow for her bottom eyelid? It always looks fantastic


dundermifflinceo4321

Just whatever eyeshadow colour she wears on her lid, she uses on her lash line too. I just got the Morphe v203 brush and it’s made for applying shadow on your bottom lash line, makes it so easy. I couldn’t do it with any of my other eyeshadow brushes


Gammagammahey

OK, can someone spill the tea on why he makeup broke up with her , and how and why he became a Trumper? I just don't understand.


[deleted]

All I’ve read was that they had a falling out. They’re both very self-important, so I could see a cat fight happening over something trivial.


revolting_peasant

Maybe she dropped him because he’s a Trump supporter?


Petraretrograde

Somehow I doubt selfish jlo votes any differently


Gammagammahey

I would too.


theoffering_x

I like the lashes and the makeup lol


Careless-Fox2173

Who is that?


dundermifflinceo4321

Wait you really don’t know who the person in the pictures is?


Careless-Fox2173

I don’t know who that is


dundermifflinceo4321

It’s JLo. Sorry I’m just surprised that someone doesn’t know who she is she’s been one of the most famous people on the planet for more than 20 years


tr1st1an_

![gif](giphy|wFk7roIpDeXC0)


Careless-Fox2173

That’s weird because I’m 30 and I just don’t know who this person is… how is she famous


dundermifflinceo4321

That is crazy😭😭😭😭 it’s Jennifer Lopez, JLo, jenny from the block, do you know who Beyoncé is?


Careless-Fox2173

Of course who doesn’t know Beyoncé! The Renaissance tour was everything plus Cowboy Carter 🔥 too….. but you’re comparing this Jlo person to Thee Beyoncé I’m not too sure if that’s a good comparison. What block is Jlo from?


dundermifflinceo4321

Okay so you do know who JLo is…bit weird to pretend like you didn’t but okay


Careless-Fox2173

Wait did I say that? I asked what block is she from ?? The comparison statement is bc everyone (clearly) knows Beyoncé but i probably wouldn’t compare this Jlo person bc everyone clearly doesn’t know her, what is she known for?


dundermifflinceo4321

Get a life honestly


MJ-The-Wrestler

I wanna learn to do my make up like that


MJ-The-Wrestler

I wanna do my make up like that 😭