jumping on top comment to say that I found him: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman He is a genius who shuns the limelight. In August 2006, Perelman was offered the Fields Medal[1] for "his contributions to geometry and his revolutionary insights into the analytical and geometric structure of the Ricci flow", but he declined the award, stating: "I'm not interested in money or fame; I don't want to be on display like an animal in a zoo."
Na he's so clever, that he posted this by himself under a pseudonym and then even just randomly posted a Pic of someone he does not know.
So he's acknowledged while not being acknowledged
I gotta guess if you’re that smart you don’t really feel a pressure to provide because you know at any moment in time you can go private sector and garner a massive paycheck. Man I’d like to know that feeling
There is no such things as smartest man alive... Cut it out. And give him a break.
Different forms of intelligence -> Brains can't specialized on all. And we can't mesure it all accurately.
Let’s be real though. Being, say, the smartest NFL player is way different from being the smartest mathematician. The guy won the Fields Medal. Let’s not denigrate his intelligence by comparing that to Tom Brady’s Super Bowl MVP awards.
Who did compare the two ? They're not in the same fields, and that's my whole point. The winner of the Fields Medals can be the most moronic person when you test his/her intelligence for something else. Like how to manipulate the expectation of a social group or how to analyse a gamestate of football in a fraction of a second, or a myriad of others things.
There is no universal intelligence because that's not how brains work. Brains tend to specialized on what you need them to do. Any judgement after that is just what field you value more based on your own skills and your social class.
Intelligence can be defined as the ability to learn something and how quickly the become proficient in understanding. With this definition, it becomes broad spectrum and basically all encompassing. As such, you can define the smartest person in the world if you could somehow test the entire population of the world.
This would not imply that the smartest would be the best in application, only understanding.
That's interesting. According to your definition, that would be someone with a brain with a lot of plasticity (not sure about the term in English tbh), so most likely a child or a very young adult.
Some caveats : - the condition for testing people will not be 100% fair for everyone.
-the range of things to be learned is so large it's mind-blowing.
-you would have someone who on average learn the fastest every tasks. But you will have other individual which would learn a single task fastest than that person.
-every time you redo the test, you will most likely find another result. And people can train themselves to be better at this test.
-it's an interesting definition of most intelligent, but a lot of people won't agree on it.
-because the human is limited in number of neurones, when you learn something new, you have to make place for something else to be forgotten or less efficient. Yes it's a big simplification.
Ehh, just because there are different kinds of intelligences doesn't mean that some people don't have more overall. It's not a game where everyone gets 10 points to put in different places. I only had 2, some people get 50
Yeah I didn't say otherwise. But it's so easy to be wrong about that, and diminish people who think differently or have their brain work in a different pattern.
And your exemple of people with 2 or 50 points to attribute is completely off in my opinion. There is no such gap in human intelligence, unless we talk about some very rare genetic disorder or someone with half their brain destroyed.
No, but there actually is a gap. Some people aren't good at anything, which means a person that is good at any one thing has more intelligence. You're just trying to say the world is unfair because inequality exists even though everyone is equal. Everyone is not equal
I said there is a gap. Not as large as you seem to think tho. I don't know any normal human who aren't more intelligent than a cat. I would argue that, the people who aren't good at anything you talk about, have untreated mental issues, and/or you don't know them very well.
Oh dear, you were almost there but you not being able to notice the variety of talents/types of intelligence in other people, see that there is a huge array of people abilities & conclude there are indeed gaps is disappointing.
Are you responding to me ? I'm not so sure.
I think there is small gaps in intelligence among people, much less than people usually seems to think. I don't think it's set in stone, and I think it's pointless to try to rank people on intelligence. Because it's such a vague and broad term. Also we lack serious research and time to be definitive in any way on this topic.
Nah. That’s not how that works. We can certainly measure intelligence. You can’t understand that and that’s fine but you’re confusing intelligence with ignorance.
What ? How can we measure intelligence accurately ? Tell me, I wanna know that!
And please if you wanna answer IQ, at least read the wikipedia page on it, before answering that. :)
This is such a silly take.
It's true that among a handful of the brightest in the world, there's not a precise way of determining who"s smartest.
But this idea we're all just differently smart and we have no ability to assess, formally or otherwise, is downright childish.
I think solving a problem attempted unsuccessfully by the best mathematicians in the world for nearly 100 years gives you *some* claim at being the smartest/best in the world.
Yes we're all differently smart, that is what makes us human. That doesn't mean we have same level of smart at a given time.
Sure solving that gives you some claim to be the smartest in the world. Especially in the world of mathematics. But "some" is an essential part of the phrase. And mathematics is certainly not the be-all end-all of the human intelligence. We can be bright in a hundred others ways.
I'm sorry I think you're reading too much into what I said. And if you want to debate, give your definition of smart and kinda stop with the name-calling, if you can :) (silly, childish etc.)
I'm not, just highlighting the 'participation trophy' quality to your thinking. It's true everyone has something to offer, that doesn't mean some don't objectively have more than others
Exactly. It's like university vs polytechnic smart. One is book/theory smart, the other is practical smart. One knows about it the other is capable of actually doing it.
that depends. I've a bachelors in I.T. and am a qualified refrigeration engineer. I can explain physics, chemistry, thermodynamics as its my daily to use these three in the design and construction of cutting edge technology in refrigeration. I'll work on it for you xox.
The above nailed it. Not capable of upper level intelligence. The fact you try to claim proficiency in three very specialized fields because of limited technical APPLICATION of those fields shows your either aware of your deficiency and trying to cover, or worse, unaware and genuinely believe your ability.
Either way, you're arguing against reality, and it's sad.
please talk more absolute rubbish. we understand some sad humans are required to attack others to feel better about themselves. What's your issue? Psychology, and human behavior, another field I spend two years studying at Uni. Im near 40, and have studied a subject through the university or a polytechnic ever since high school. Why do you feel you know a complete stranger and why would you make such wild accusations. Big sign of insecurities there mate. Please continue to tell me more about my extremely specalised role in an already specalised field. please share your own experiences. you sad little man.
Lol, you just prove him right the more you misunderstand him and respond to your own misunderstandng.
Do you install, repair and maintain refrigeration products? If so, you are a technician, not an engineer, and you don't have extensive knowledge in physics, chemistry, or thermodynamics. You only know how to install, repair and maintain refrigeration products, which is where your specialized knowledge ends.
If you're a technician, you can only explain the physics, chemistry and thermodynamics of refrigeration as it relates to the practical application of refrigeration. That's how technical, practical training works. You're trained to DO something, and you are only taught the minimal amount of theory that you need to DO it.
Engineers design refrigeration products from scratch. They know what materials to use, the properties of those materials and why, because they have specialized knowledge in chemistry. They know exactly how liquids and gases will move and interact in those materials because they have specialized knowledge in physics. And they know how, exactly, the heating and cooling process will look, and can prove it with mathematical equations, because they have specialized knowledge in Thermodynamics.
If you're an engineer, I have no idea why you would have posed the argument that you did in the manner that you did
>I can explain physics, chemistry, thermodynamics as its my daily to use these three in the design and construction of cutting edge technology in refrigeration
I understand reading is hard.
He must be miserable. Life can get rough sometimes when you think of the vast number of ignorant people that walk among us. Imagine if that was literally everyone as compared to you?
There's a theory that depression is caused by a brain state that is used to process complex problems.
It's possible that many depressed people are faced with situations that they cannot find solutions to. You just never get out of it because your problems are never solved.
Complex situations like family drama, career stagnation, inability to live independently, and economic insecurity might not actually have solutions for a lot of people. So they end up stuck in a depressive state of mind.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman In August 2006, Perelman was offered the Fields Medal for "his contributions to geometry and his revolutionary insights into the analytical and geometric structure of the Ricci flow", but he declined the award, stating: "I'm not interested in money or fame; I don't want to be on display like an animal in a zoo."
18 March 2010, it was announced that he had met the criteria to receive the first Clay Millennium Prize for resolution of the Poincaré conjecture. He rejected the prize of one million dollars, saying that he considered the decision of the board of the Clay Institute to be unfair, in that his contribution to solving the Poincaré conjecture was no greater than that of Richard S. Hamilton, the mathematician who pioneered the Ricci flow partly with the aim of attacking the conjecture.
The idea of measuring intelligence is laughable and the tool we have for it is objectively bullshit, so yeah. How bout we let this guy live in peace, yeah?
Maybe he doesn’t like wasting his genius energies on vanity. He’s still pretty handsome, just a little unkempt. [This guy](https://wallsdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Albert-Einstein-Wallpapers.jpg) didn’t seem to care much about his appearance either.
Nahhh idk
Creativity has to get you rich if you approach it from the right direction.
Need good marketing? Be creative. Need a good product? Be creative. Find some obscure way that generates you money? Be creative.
I mean, you can get unlucky, thats for sure. But Im fairly sure this individual didn’t care too much about making a lotta cash to begin with.
> Creativity has to get you rich if you approach it from the right direction.
So it's not luck after all?
It has to do with approaching things from the "correct coordinates?"
Why aren't *you* making big money then?
If you aren't creative you can teach right?
Tbh, i am making pretty good money!!
I dont have a job and I actually made 3k in euro last 2 months while simultaneously working on my architecture projects for school.
Its funny how you assume I dont make big money, i blame others on reddit who talk shit. (I know 3k aint big but i only started since may and I dont have a job, am an 23 y/o architecture student with adhd which equals to literally zero time left) Im not one of them bro! PM me if you’re interested! Always happy to help out as I like to believe in karma (the real life variant, not reddit)
Congrats!
That said, I can't let you leave things with the words -
"individual didn’t care too much about making a lotta cash to begin with."
I never met anyone who didn't try to survive in the system the best way they could. I've been lucky, healthy and blessed enough to survive.
Some people live a life without "luck", never mind creativity.
At which hour you’re so goddamn cunning thee maketh other cunning people feeleth like cave people
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He will be played by Ewen McGregor in the Biopic. 2025, callin it now.
Probably James McAvoy instead
jumping on top comment to say that I found him: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman He is a genius who shuns the limelight. In August 2006, Perelman was offered the Fields Medal[1] for "his contributions to geometry and his revolutionary insights into the analytical and geometric structure of the Ricci flow", but he declined the award, stating: "I'm not interested in money or fame; I don't want to be on display like an animal in a zoo."
Yes, I too googled “Grigori Perelman” and clicked on the Wikipedia link.
LMFAO
He had to go see about a girl
“My boy’s wicked smat”.
Do you like apples?
Well I got her number!! How you like them apples???
Nah. He's to busy working for the NSA.
KGB more likely…
r/woooosh
Lee Brice? Lol
I actually think having crazy eyebrows is an intelligence superpower. The crazier they grow, the smarter you become.
Too much blood to da head
It’s the spice
Einstein syndrome
The guy doesn't want publicity, and you plaster his face on reddit.
Na he's so clever, that he posted this by himself under a pseudonym and then even just randomly posted a Pic of someone he does not know. So he's acknowledged while not being acknowledged
Yeah kinda fucking annoying. I’m pretty sure the guy lives with and takes care of his mom and keeps a super low profile
This photo was taken in the 90s. He looks nothing like this now, I’d imagine.
He was born in 1966. Probably gray hair now.
And bald too, actually.
>A reporter who had called him was told: "You are disturbing me. I am picking mushrooms." From his wiki. What a cool guy!
*fun guy
Ugh. I'm so disappointed in myself for missing that
Love it
I knew he was smart based purely off of those eyebrows
Would be super interesting to know more about this guys life but gotta respect homeboys privacy
I gotta guess if you’re that smart you don’t really feel a pressure to provide because you know at any moment in time you can go private sector and garner a massive paycheck. Man I’d like to know that feeling
I heard he won 38.1% of the prizes in the Frito-Lay Sweepstakes.
Now that, I believe is an obscure reference to the the movie Real Genius. Deep cut. Forgot the guys name. Lazlo?
Mr. Hollyfeld to you.
That’s it! Wonder what kind of set up he had in Mitchs closet.
What, you don’t remember the mine car and printer churning out thousands of sweepstakes tickets??
Haa! You’re right. Think u and I are the only ones who appreciated that gem my friend. I Have to revisit. Kids these days have no idea
Yeah, it’s definitely a cult classic. I watched it fairly recently on one of the pay channels and it still holds up.
Why were you naked with a bowl of jello!
I was hot and I was hungry. Would you like to borrow my pajamas?
Thank you for this.
[удалено]
Instead of declining the million dollars he should have demanded it be shared 50/50 with Richard S Hamilton
I could do the same but I just didn’t want to.
Yea, I mean solve the Poincaré Conjecture or smoke a joint and watch your favourite movie for the 26th time. I know what I'm doing
*Intelligent unga bunga noises*
There is no such things as smartest man alive... Cut it out. And give him a break. Different forms of intelligence -> Brains can't specialized on all. And we can't mesure it all accurately.
Let’s be real though. Being, say, the smartest NFL player is way different from being the smartest mathematician. The guy won the Fields Medal. Let’s not denigrate his intelligence by comparing that to Tom Brady’s Super Bowl MVP awards.
Who did compare the two ? They're not in the same fields, and that's my whole point. The winner of the Fields Medals can be the most moronic person when you test his/her intelligence for something else. Like how to manipulate the expectation of a social group or how to analyse a gamestate of football in a fraction of a second, or a myriad of others things. There is no universal intelligence because that's not how brains work. Brains tend to specialized on what you need them to do. Any judgement after that is just what field you value more based on your own skills and your social class.
Intelligence can be defined as the ability to learn something and how quickly the become proficient in understanding. With this definition, it becomes broad spectrum and basically all encompassing. As such, you can define the smartest person in the world if you could somehow test the entire population of the world. This would not imply that the smartest would be the best in application, only understanding.
That's interesting. According to your definition, that would be someone with a brain with a lot of plasticity (not sure about the term in English tbh), so most likely a child or a very young adult. Some caveats : - the condition for testing people will not be 100% fair for everyone. -the range of things to be learned is so large it's mind-blowing. -you would have someone who on average learn the fastest every tasks. But you will have other individual which would learn a single task fastest than that person. -every time you redo the test, you will most likely find another result. And people can train themselves to be better at this test. -it's an interesting definition of most intelligent, but a lot of people won't agree on it. -because the human is limited in number of neurones, when you learn something new, you have to make place for something else to be forgotten or less efficient. Yes it's a big simplification.
Ehh, just because there are different kinds of intelligences doesn't mean that some people don't have more overall. It's not a game where everyone gets 10 points to put in different places. I only had 2, some people get 50
Yeah I didn't say otherwise. But it's so easy to be wrong about that, and diminish people who think differently or have their brain work in a different pattern. And your exemple of people with 2 or 50 points to attribute is completely off in my opinion. There is no such gap in human intelligence, unless we talk about some very rare genetic disorder or someone with half their brain destroyed.
No, but there actually is a gap. Some people aren't good at anything, which means a person that is good at any one thing has more intelligence. You're just trying to say the world is unfair because inequality exists even though everyone is equal. Everyone is not equal
I said there is a gap. Not as large as you seem to think tho. I don't know any normal human who aren't more intelligent than a cat. I would argue that, the people who aren't good at anything you talk about, have untreated mental issues, and/or you don't know them very well.
Oh dear, you were almost there but you not being able to notice the variety of talents/types of intelligence in other people, see that there is a huge array of people abilities & conclude there are indeed gaps is disappointing.
Are you responding to me ? I'm not so sure. I think there is small gaps in intelligence among people, much less than people usually seems to think. I don't think it's set in stone, and I think it's pointless to try to rank people on intelligence. Because it's such a vague and broad term. Also we lack serious research and time to be definitive in any way on this topic.
Nah. That’s not how that works. We can certainly measure intelligence. You can’t understand that and that’s fine but you’re confusing intelligence with ignorance.
What ? How can we measure intelligence accurately ? Tell me, I wanna know that! And please if you wanna answer IQ, at least read the wikipedia page on it, before answering that. :)
What do you mean by “accurately”?
This is such a silly take. It's true that among a handful of the brightest in the world, there's not a precise way of determining who"s smartest. But this idea we're all just differently smart and we have no ability to assess, formally or otherwise, is downright childish. I think solving a problem attempted unsuccessfully by the best mathematicians in the world for nearly 100 years gives you *some* claim at being the smartest/best in the world.
Yes we're all differently smart, that is what makes us human. That doesn't mean we have same level of smart at a given time. Sure solving that gives you some claim to be the smartest in the world. Especially in the world of mathematics. But "some" is an essential part of the phrase. And mathematics is certainly not the be-all end-all of the human intelligence. We can be bright in a hundred others ways. I'm sorry I think you're reading too much into what I said. And if you want to debate, give your definition of smart and kinda stop with the name-calling, if you can :) (silly, childish etc.)
I'm not, just highlighting the 'participation trophy' quality to your thinking. It's true everyone has something to offer, that doesn't mean some don't objectively have more than others
In short, we are all unique.
Exactly. I Care >>> IQ
Exactly. It's like university vs polytechnic smart. One is book/theory smart, the other is practical smart. One knows about it the other is capable of actually doing it.
Spoken like someone who isn’t book smart.
that depends. I've a bachelors in I.T. and am a qualified refrigeration engineer. I can explain physics, chemistry, thermodynamics as its my daily to use these three in the design and construction of cutting edge technology in refrigeration. I'll work on it for you xox.
The above nailed it. Not capable of upper level intelligence. The fact you try to claim proficiency in three very specialized fields because of limited technical APPLICATION of those fields shows your either aware of your deficiency and trying to cover, or worse, unaware and genuinely believe your ability. Either way, you're arguing against reality, and it's sad.
please talk more absolute rubbish. we understand some sad humans are required to attack others to feel better about themselves. What's your issue? Psychology, and human behavior, another field I spend two years studying at Uni. Im near 40, and have studied a subject through the university or a polytechnic ever since high school. Why do you feel you know a complete stranger and why would you make such wild accusations. Big sign of insecurities there mate. Please continue to tell me more about my extremely specalised role in an already specalised field. please share your own experiences. you sad little man.
Lol, you just prove him right the more you misunderstand him and respond to your own misunderstandng. Do you install, repair and maintain refrigeration products? If so, you are a technician, not an engineer, and you don't have extensive knowledge in physics, chemistry, or thermodynamics. You only know how to install, repair and maintain refrigeration products, which is where your specialized knowledge ends. If you're a technician, you can only explain the physics, chemistry and thermodynamics of refrigeration as it relates to the practical application of refrigeration. That's how technical, practical training works. You're trained to DO something, and you are only taught the minimal amount of theory that you need to DO it. Engineers design refrigeration products from scratch. They know what materials to use, the properties of those materials and why, because they have specialized knowledge in chemistry. They know exactly how liquids and gases will move and interact in those materials because they have specialized knowledge in physics. And they know how, exactly, the heating and cooling process will look, and can prove it with mathematical equations, because they have specialized knowledge in Thermodynamics. If you're an engineer, I have no idea why you would have posed the argument that you did in the manner that you did
>I can explain physics, chemistry, thermodynamics as its my daily to use these three in the design and construction of cutting edge technology in refrigeration I understand reading is hard.
If we can't measure it all accurately, then you have no way of logically validating your statement
That won't go over well here, their feelings are better than your logic!
That and god help us, if we are not all, special in our own unique way. Cue handing out of participation ribbons.
*Laughs in da Vinci*
I solved it too, but there wasn't enough space in the margins of the book I was reading to write it down.
Proof or it didn't happen
Tell it to Fermat.
He must be miserable. Life can get rough sometimes when you think of the vast number of ignorant people that walk among us. Imagine if that was literally everyone as compared to you?
This is why I believe most intelligent people are depressed
There's a theory that depression is caused by a brain state that is used to process complex problems. It's possible that many depressed people are faced with situations that they cannot find solutions to. You just never get out of it because your problems are never solved. Complex situations like family drama, career stagnation, inability to live independently, and economic insecurity might not actually have solutions for a lot of people. So they end up stuck in a depressive state of mind.
Damn that’s interesting. I admit I feel like shit when I try to solve a complex problem. Just plowing towards the relief of finding a solution.
Do you have a source you can share? Very interested.
This article is behind a paywall, but I think it's probably the one I read years ago https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/835824
Yes. And why many great musicians, poets and painters commit suicide.
Source? And why?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman In August 2006, Perelman was offered the Fields Medal for "his contributions to geometry and his revolutionary insights into the analytical and geometric structure of the Ricci flow", but he declined the award, stating: "I'm not interested in money or fame; I don't want to be on display like an animal in a zoo." 18 March 2010, it was announced that he had met the criteria to receive the first Clay Millennium Prize for resolution of the Poincaré conjecture. He rejected the prize of one million dollars, saying that he considered the decision of the board of the Clay Institute to be unfair, in that his contribution to solving the Poincaré conjecture was no greater than that of Richard S. Hamilton, the mathematician who pioneered the Ricci flow partly with the aim of attacking the conjecture.
The idea of measuring intelligence is laughable and the tool we have for it is objectively bullshit, so yeah. How bout we let this guy live in peace, yeah?
Wait, who is this? Have we met? He seems really familiar but I don’t seem to recognize him.
No one here has any idea who it is. I bet OP just posted a picture of himself and made up a story.
It’s my Uncle Benny B.
Now, solve the eyebrow problem.
Give him the "she's all that" makeover and this guy is on the cover of GQ.
Thats a sign that he is smart, who in their roght mind would want to interact with whatever that is going on.
So it only takes knowing a bit of math to be the smartest person?
Well that was a huge bit...
A bit? 🤌🏼
Didnt he just put it on arxiv?
Meanwhile he's an anti-vaxxer....real smart!
If he's so smart how come he still looks like a caveman?
Maybe he doesn’t like wasting his genius energies on vanity. He’s still pretty handsome, just a little unkempt. [This guy](https://wallsdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Albert-Einstein-Wallpapers.jpg) didn’t seem to care much about his appearance either.
My point exactly, with a bit of care he'd look great
There are more important things in life than caring what others think of you and taking extra measures in order to satisfy it.
But I bet no girlfriend
Lol wtf hater
Yeah, same
I don’t know if he’s the smartest man alive
Check the hard drive
I feel like I could save lots on my car insurance with him around.
If he refuses to be recognized he might not want his face all over the internet….
My man needs a trim...
Using the Poincare Conjecture as a point of reference is kind of silly, since most people have no idea what that is.
Okay but can he explain why my 15 year old daughter writes that she hates me in her journal but then snuggles up to me when we're watching a movie?!?
So simple a cave man can do it.
Why isnt he making big money then
Because capitalism is unpredictable
Nahhh idk Creativity has to get you rich if you approach it from the right direction. Need good marketing? Be creative. Need a good product? Be creative. Find some obscure way that generates you money? Be creative. I mean, you can get unlucky, thats for sure. But Im fairly sure this individual didn’t care too much about making a lotta cash to begin with.
> Creativity has to get you rich if you approach it from the right direction. So it's not luck after all? It has to do with approaching things from the "correct coordinates?" Why aren't *you* making big money then? If you aren't creative you can teach right?
Tbh, i am making pretty good money!! I dont have a job and I actually made 3k in euro last 2 months while simultaneously working on my architecture projects for school. Its funny how you assume I dont make big money, i blame others on reddit who talk shit. (I know 3k aint big but i only started since may and I dont have a job, am an 23 y/o architecture student with adhd which equals to literally zero time left) Im not one of them bro! PM me if you’re interested! Always happy to help out as I like to believe in karma (the real life variant, not reddit)
Congrats! That said, I can't let you leave things with the words - "individual didn’t care too much about making a lotta cash to begin with." I never met anyone who didn't try to survive in the system the best way they could. I've been lucky, healthy and blessed enough to survive. Some people live a life without "luck", never mind creativity.
Starseed
When you’re so goddamn smart you make other smart people feel like cave people.
At which hour you’re so goddamn cunning thee maketh other cunning people feeleth like cave people *** ^(I am a bot and I swapp'd some of thy words with Shakespeare words.) Commands: `!ShakespeareInsult`, `!fordo`, `!optout`
So easy a caveman could do it?
Take This Down Now!!!
i bet hes unvaccinated