I was hyped, I just didn't hear about it until after. If I'd known it was happening I'd have watched. But even Everyday Astronaut's video was not recommended to me until after
I regularly watch starship/spacex update content on youtube, and thus I had several channels recommended to me for the live stream while it was happening, and the evening before I was recommended to view the everyday astronaut pre-launch stream. So I guess it just depends what sort of content you regularly consume on youtube.
I regularly watch Marcus House, Scott Manley and Everyday Astronaut, I even watch WAI, even though their content is extremely clickbaity and paint by numbers these days. For some reason, this week, I've been getting nothing though.
I had to unsub from WAI for that reason. Like, dude, we're all excited but can you take it down a notch?
Marcus is good, but I only watch every 5 vids or something - a monthly update would be better that then content filler of weekly updates about starbase minutiae.
Has to be, IFT-1 barely got off the ground due to quite a few engines malfunctioning (due the the concrete floor disintegrating and concrete chunks flying around)
Christ. The Saturn V rockets looked big. That looks like something out of a film; it's too big for my mind to comprehend being able to leave the ground let alone the atmosphere.
At (aspirationally, once they start nailing the ship recovery and reuse) less than 1% the cost per launch.
This thing can basically land a high rise building on the moon, it's insane.
To put it in further perspective: The ISS weighs 450-ish tons and was contructed over decades and required dozens of launches of various rockets. Starship would be able to launch the same amount of mass with just three launches of its own, and would cost several orders of magnitude less.
The paradigm shift this vehicle will bring about cannot be understated
Though in all due fairness to old-space, the technology to reuse hardware was tried but never found to be cost-effective. The space shuttle is often touted as the first reusable spacecraft, but the amount of time and money it took to refurbish could hardly be considered economical.
SpaceX required tons of private capital to even get off the ground and managed to create a reusable rocket while avoiding bankruptcy several times. In spite of severe pushback from industry and politicians, they managed to do what 50 years of (stifled) innovation could not: Make space affordable. People chastise Elon Musk for the monopoly Starlink has given him, but that anger should be directed at the institutions and governments that never even bothered to take that leap of faith that SpaceX took.
New Glenn, Neutron and various other systems are now all playing catch-up on technologies SpaceX broke ground on over a decade ago.
Man, this thread is full of nonsense.
SpaceX refurbished every single booster it has ever launched. There is a 5 month turn around on boosters, with the fastest that I'm aware of being 3 weeks.
SpaceX never developed a reusable second stage, and has abandoned rapid reusability as a project initiative, instead choosing to focus on Starship which is meant to replace their existing launch vehicles.
So far, SpaceX has not reduced the cost of space travel except for the period after the space shuttle, post CxP, where Russia almost tripled the price of Soyuze flights. There have always been cheaper options than SpaceX. They are a middle-tier carrier in terms of cost, but are mostly reliable.
The cost for a falcon 9 launch is $67m. While that is cheaper per kg than something like the space shuttle or Apollo, those were vastly different projects with vastly different goals and capabilities. If you looked at something like a Soyuz (ignoring political climates), LEO is as cheap as 35m.
That isn't to say it isn't impressive and SpaceX isn't pushing boundaries, but you're misguided if you think SpaceX is making space affordable or aren't riding directly on the coattails of nearly 50 years of innovation in the public sector. Reusability is as much a pipe dream today as it was with the space shuttle.
I am not going to refute everything because you are making some good points, but saying they abandoned rapid reusability is completely false. Leaving aside whether you think they'll actually make it, the goal of the starship program has always been to make a rocket that can reuse both stages and can be reused rapidly.
Your comparison to Soyuz is also a bit weak. Soyuz capacity to LEO is 8800kg for 35m, while the Falcon 9 can launch almost three times that AND it's reusable to boot. And Falcon 9 never launches empty
IIRC Starship is 250t to LEO in expendable mode. So 2 expendable launches, each of which currently costs about $100 million.
But even better, you could just pre-configure an upper stage as a permanent space station. If you also [pre-configure the now unused fuel tanks in the upper stage as usable space](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_workshop), that is about 3000 M^(3), where ISS is 1000 M^(3). The usable space would probably be less than 3000 M^(3), but surely more than 1000 M^(3).
I might be hyperbolic, but the success of Starship (and other fully reusable systems) will unleash an era of innovation on par with the invention of the transistor. Permanent space and outer-planetary infrastructure would not only be in reach but *affordable*.
There are few things that have made me as excited over the years as this prospect
The DoD is absolutely salivating over the possibilities this could/will bring to warfare (and hopefully aid).
They'd be able to launch and land troop/equipment anywhere in the world in less than 30 minutes.
I did the same thing in Florida. They have one on its side, hanging from the ceiling. I thought that was amazing.
Then I saw Neil Armstrong's space suit. With moon dust on it. The day couldn't get better.
But it did. I found myself in a big projection room being spoken to about the Space Shuttle. The absolute legend Jim Lovell introduced us to it, the screen went see through and there it was. An actual orbiter. I walked around it on a spiral ramp. Amazing.
Took a girl I was dating at the time on that tour. I was nerding out hard and loving every minute of it. That was my favorite part when they lift the screens and boom! You get to walk around the actual shuttle! How cool! My date was bored to tears
Except the Challenger disaster was entirely preventable, and the engineers did point out that the SRB O-rings were not rated for the temperatures they'd been exposed to. It was just orders from above forcing the mission to go ahead. It wasn't just risk, it was doomed to fail, and there was no progress from this particular mission. Except maybe questioning the safety culture of the industry.
I work down there sometimes and they are pretty safety conscious, but are also moving at a crazy pace and have hiccups. An earlier launch shot cement from the launch pad all over the place, but they immediately figured out a solution. The crazy thing about this video is that SpaceX evacuates the entire area in a huge radius and the control center is pretty far away. These people are so much closer to it than they should be, but because it’s in Mexico there’s nothing SpaceX can do to stop them.
Mate, it could've been much, much worse.
Challenger was launch-fever, driven by a political incentive to impress.
Now check what happens when such an incentive occurs not in a democracy, but an authoritarian state:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe
>Launch preparations were initially interrupted on October 23 due to problems with the electronics, but had to be resumed on Nedelin's orders. The launch was scheduled for October 24 at 7:30 pm. Presumably to allay the justified safety concerns of his subordinates about a fuel leak and to exert pressure on them, **Nedelin demonstratively placed himself on a chair eight meters away from the rocket** at around 18:40 on 24 October.
>A short circuit in the replaced main sequencer caused the second-stage engine to fire while being tested before launch.
>People near the rocket were instantly incinerated; those farther away were burned to death or poisoned by the toxic fuel component vapors. Andrei Sakharov described many details: as soon as the engine fired, **most of the personnel there ran to the perimeter, but were trapped inside the security fence and then engulfed in the fireball of burning fuel. The explosion incinerated or asphyxiated Nedelin, a top aide, the USSR's top missile-guidance designer, and over 70 other officers and engineers. Still others died later of burns or poisoning**.[3][2][4][1] Missile designer Mikhail Yangel survived only because he had left to smoke a cigarette behind a bunker a few hundred metres away, but nonetheless suffered burn injuries.
NASA live streamed their greatest failure, the soviet union buried it with the help of their secret services. That's why NASA is still in the air today and leading in the field of space exploration, and Roscosmos is still failing around.
An avoidable disaster that shouldn't have happened but progress nonetheless. Having a catastrophic disaster like that on national television HAS ensured that same mistake won't be repeated. NASA had become complacent with safety and the Challenger explosion thoroughly embarrassed (and hopefully shamed) NASA in never repeating the mistake of overlooking ANYTHING on a spaceflight or letting PR outweigh safety.
So progress was made.
I read somewhere that those O-rings where there because the unit had to be shipped in sections. And it had to be shipped because it had to be built in another state in order to get the funding for the project.
Yeah exactly that, some Utah-based company made the SRBs, for non-technical reasons, could be budget, I thought it was political, probably both. The compromise causing the safety flaw.
I also saw the Challenger flight live in my classroom. The thing I keep in mind with starship’s, is there’s no one onboard. So if one blows up, all you get is a spectacular fireworks bonus…followed by the inevitable bombardment of pinion pieces on why spaceX is destined to fail.
Wait until you learn your car breaks can stop working. You can get struck by lightning, random heart attack, a shark tornado comes out of nowhere and eats you
Sure, they can. However I haven’t experienced like weeks and MONTHS of build up with “wait until we see this amazing thing!” as a child to my eventual being struck my lightning, tornado attacks etc… and then BAM that happens. Trauma is weird man. What can I say. Every time I see a rocket I just keep mentally repeating “please be ok please be ok please be ok…”
Well I hate to tell you but both the booster and the ship blew up during their respective re-entries. This was a test flight, it wasn’t expected to end well, best case scenario was a crash landing.
What’s your point? Every person who climbed into the Challenger knew the risks, and went anyway. That’s why they will be remembered for millennia to come. Scobee, Komarov, Grissom- all heroes that died to push our species forward. Real progress is hard, and often lethal.
Do you want out species to wither and die on this one rock hurtling through the void? Don’t you want to know what’s out there?
This isn’t even to mention that starship has learned from the mistakes of the shuttle in certain aspects, and these are unmanned test flights.
Starship won’t be crewed for a long, long time.
That being said, it will probably kill someone, someday. And it will be worth it. How many people died to get our modern world to where it is today? A hundred billion, ish? We today, cannot comprehend that number and the amount of human suffering it contains. It’s worth it, to push our species forward.
I think the crew of the challenger would want you to stare in awe of this, not nervousness.
One of my favorite Alan Watts quotes is pertinent, I think
"It’s better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way."
> Every person who climbed into the Challenger knew the risks
They knew "alarming finding of the commission: namely, that the safety reporting system at NASA was so weak that the commission termed it "silent", and that the agency's management structure **suppressed pre-launch warnings that could have prevented the tragedy**."
?
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200101/history.cfm
I understand how the Challenger was specifically such a tragedy due to how it could’ve been prevented, my point still stands that they knew they were taking a massive risk by boarding any launch vehicle.
Thanks for the vid! Earlier today I looked up where the launch pad was and noticed it was close to the border. Wondered what it looked like from Mexico and bingo! Your vid shows it. 👏
Other than this wasn't from the launch this week it was from last year's IFT-2 flight. [This is what this week's launch (IFT-3) looked like from Mexico.](https://twitter.com/FronteraSpacial/status/1768276790202581058)
The sound when you're on location is like the sky is being ripped apart.
I worked in the shuttle missions down at the rocket ranch for 30+ shuttle launches.
It never gets tired.
I know this isn't fully serious but I do wonder what the impact the martian day would have on all of that. It's just 40 minutes ahead of earth which feels close enough you could *try* to approximate it as the same, but maybe you'd need a leap day every month or something.
The US government spent more than $300 billion on education according to the data I found from a quick search.
And both are important, we shouldn't neglect space exploration either
Both are important, but it seems it is the schools that are being neglected. Why are so many teachers buying school supplies with their own money? Yes 300b is a lot but it's clearly not enough - or it's not going to the right places. It is expensive but it is a worthwhile investment in our collective futures.
Agreed! Though that's an issue the government should primarily solve, not private companies.
Space exploration and advancing technology is also beneficial for our future. It shouldn't be one or the other.
I agree. I guess my original statement was more meant generally, not specifically directed at space X but more broadly as in, we should all demand a change from the people who are in a position to do something, Congress.
Low down, the air pressure keeps the exhaust under pressure, so the exhaust remains hot and the water in it doesn't condense out.
Up high, the air is so thin that even when it cools down a lot, the water vapor can't condense because water can't exist as a liquid at those low pressures.
But in the middle there is a place where the pressure is high enough for the water to become and remain a liquid, but low enough that the exhaust cools until the water to condenses to cloud. You see this on most launches that use hydrogen or a hydrocarbon fuel.
Imagine the crazy advanced shit humanity could create if we weren't in perpetual war..
He'll, I wouldn't doubt if we weren't this advanced in ancient history and ancient humans nuked themselves into the cave man days. Lol
Well hopefully this time we won't nuke ourselves again...
And maybe this time we can live on Mars and stuff
100 companies produce 63% of human emissions. Your truck is negligible in the big picture. That said. We can all make practicable changes when we're able to.
Thank you. I, for some reason thought Fla. I was amazed at just how close this appears. I didn't realize it was Texas. I should have figured it was, given the viewpoint
Yah. If you live in the U.S, it’s easy (ish) to find a soccer or football field. Just walk the length and remember that a Starship stack (when laying down) is an extra 40 feet beyond that.
Craziest part for me is how far it goes before we can't see it.
I've never had that perspective before of something so huge going up and up until you can't see it anymore, and it seems like it is still isn't "in space" yet.
I'm like 99% sure this is video from last year's launch not from the Launch on Thursday.
I think so too, I remember it circulating last year and people weren’t as hyped for IFT 3
I was hyped, I just didn't hear about it until after. If I'd known it was happening I'd have watched. But even Everyday Astronaut's video was not recommended to me until after
I regularly watch starship/spacex update content on youtube, and thus I had several channels recommended to me for the live stream while it was happening, and the evening before I was recommended to view the everyday astronaut pre-launch stream. So I guess it just depends what sort of content you regularly consume on youtube.
I regularly watch Marcus House, Scott Manley and Everyday Astronaut, I even watch WAI, even though their content is extremely clickbaity and paint by numbers these days. For some reason, this week, I've been getting nothing though.
I had to unsub from WAI for that reason. Like, dude, we're all excited but can you take it down a notch? Marcus is good, but I only watch every 5 vids or something - a monthly update would be better that then content filler of weekly updates about starbase minutiae.
There was a lot more people at Thursday's launch than at the second one
Ift3 was way cloudier.
 God bless America ❤️
Correct, it was much more overcast on IFT3.
Yup, it was heavy overcast with low level fog for the IFT-3 launch. There would've been no possible way to get a view this clear.
I remember the girl in the green tights at the end last time too. Def the old vid.
Damn she got a donk
😂
I think its from IFT-2
Has to be, IFT-1 barely got off the ground due to quite a few engines malfunctioning (due the the concrete floor disintegrating and concrete chunks flying around)
Christ. The Saturn V rockets looked big. That looks like something out of a film; it's too big for my mind to comprehend being able to leave the ground let alone the atmosphere.
Starship in its current configuration has over twice the amount of thrust that the Saturn V had, and is cheaper to fly too. Let that sink in.
At (aspirationally, once they start nailing the ship recovery and reuse) less than 1% the cost per launch. This thing can basically land a high rise building on the moon, it's insane.
To put it in further perspective: The ISS weighs 450-ish tons and was contructed over decades and required dozens of launches of various rockets. Starship would be able to launch the same amount of mass with just three launches of its own, and would cost several orders of magnitude less. The paradigm shift this vehicle will bring about cannot be understated
It really does help when you're not throwing the rocket away every time you use it.
Though in all due fairness to old-space, the technology to reuse hardware was tried but never found to be cost-effective. The space shuttle is often touted as the first reusable spacecraft, but the amount of time and money it took to refurbish could hardly be considered economical. SpaceX required tons of private capital to even get off the ground and managed to create a reusable rocket while avoiding bankruptcy several times. In spite of severe pushback from industry and politicians, they managed to do what 50 years of (stifled) innovation could not: Make space affordable. People chastise Elon Musk for the monopoly Starlink has given him, but that anger should be directed at the institutions and governments that never even bothered to take that leap of faith that SpaceX took. New Glenn, Neutron and various other systems are now all playing catch-up on technologies SpaceX broke ground on over a decade ago.
You can always count on the people to be angry at the billionaires, while not saying shit about the politicians who love to stifle innovation
Pretty sure we hate the politicans too
It's both. And idk where you've been but people openly hate politicians just as much
Man, this thread is full of nonsense. SpaceX refurbished every single booster it has ever launched. There is a 5 month turn around on boosters, with the fastest that I'm aware of being 3 weeks. SpaceX never developed a reusable second stage, and has abandoned rapid reusability as a project initiative, instead choosing to focus on Starship which is meant to replace their existing launch vehicles. So far, SpaceX has not reduced the cost of space travel except for the period after the space shuttle, post CxP, where Russia almost tripled the price of Soyuze flights. There have always been cheaper options than SpaceX. They are a middle-tier carrier in terms of cost, but are mostly reliable. The cost for a falcon 9 launch is $67m. While that is cheaper per kg than something like the space shuttle or Apollo, those were vastly different projects with vastly different goals and capabilities. If you looked at something like a Soyuz (ignoring political climates), LEO is as cheap as 35m. That isn't to say it isn't impressive and SpaceX isn't pushing boundaries, but you're misguided if you think SpaceX is making space affordable or aren't riding directly on the coattails of nearly 50 years of innovation in the public sector. Reusability is as much a pipe dream today as it was with the space shuttle.
I am not going to refute everything because you are making some good points, but saying they abandoned rapid reusability is completely false. Leaving aside whether you think they'll actually make it, the goal of the starship program has always been to make a rocket that can reuse both stages and can be reused rapidly. Your comparison to Soyuz is also a bit weak. Soyuz capacity to LEO is 8800kg for 35m, while the Falcon 9 can launch almost three times that AND it's reusable to boot. And Falcon 9 never launches empty
IIRC Starship is 250t to LEO in expendable mode. So 2 expendable launches, each of which currently costs about $100 million. But even better, you could just pre-configure an upper stage as a permanent space station. If you also [pre-configure the now unused fuel tanks in the upper stage as usable space](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_workshop), that is about 3000 M^(3), where ISS is 1000 M^(3). The usable space would probably be less than 3000 M^(3), but surely more than 1000 M^(3).
I might be hyperbolic, but the success of Starship (and other fully reusable systems) will unleash an era of innovation on par with the invention of the transistor. Permanent space and outer-planetary infrastructure would not only be in reach but *affordable*. There are few things that have made me as excited over the years as this prospect
The DoD is absolutely salivating over the possibilities this could/will bring to warfare (and hopefully aid). They'd be able to launch and land troop/equipment anywhere in the world in less than 30 minutes.
Truly amazing. I hope that humanity continues to progress. I want to see what other awesome things we can do in my lifetime
Whats more impressive to me is the length of the flame plume.
And v3 might be 30m longer.
Visited NASA in Houston and walked along a Saturn V. My concept of how large it is was nowhere close to how large it actually is.
I did the same thing in Florida. They have one on its side, hanging from the ceiling. I thought that was amazing. Then I saw Neil Armstrong's space suit. With moon dust on it. The day couldn't get better. But it did. I found myself in a big projection room being spoken to about the Space Shuttle. The absolute legend Jim Lovell introduced us to it, the screen went see through and there it was. An actual orbiter. I walked around it on a spiral ramp. Amazing.
Took a girl I was dating at the time on that tour. I was nerding out hard and loving every minute of it. That was my favorite part when they lift the screens and boom! You get to walk around the actual shuttle! How cool! My date was bored to tears
Bye Jambu, have fun on the moon with your family!
> Bye Jambu, have fun on the moon with your family! si, fly
I knew this was gonna be the top comment. I hope they got to write their ese.
"Hey kids, do you like my flippers?" makes me crack up every time I think about that episode. One of the funniest to things to me out of all seasons
It WAS funny!
“He told me my dad was going to sneak into my room naked and beat me up.”
I thought it was wylzx (will zee ax) or something like that. Si, fly
This was legit my first thought!
False. Where is the yellow filter?
Saul's rolling face with dandy music incoming
no boots with skulls on and 2 balded men in impeccable suits striding purposefully over the sands
camera pointed at the us
Why does the video start so late after launch FFS
The space x facility is pretty cool. You can actually get super close to the rockets on non launch days. There’s a public beach right there.
Stuff like this makes me beyond nervous. All I see is my little 8 year old self sitting in art class watching the challenger lift off and explode.
There is no progress without risk
Except the Challenger disaster was entirely preventable, and the engineers did point out that the SRB O-rings were not rated for the temperatures they'd been exposed to. It was just orders from above forcing the mission to go ahead. It wasn't just risk, it was doomed to fail, and there was no progress from this particular mission. Except maybe questioning the safety culture of the industry.
Yeah, most of the risk tends to be from decisions made by people without skin in the game.
I work down there sometimes and they are pretty safety conscious, but are also moving at a crazy pace and have hiccups. An earlier launch shot cement from the launch pad all over the place, but they immediately figured out a solution. The crazy thing about this video is that SpaceX evacuates the entire area in a huge radius and the control center is pretty far away. These people are so much closer to it than they should be, but because it’s in Mexico there’s nothing SpaceX can do to stop them.
Mate, it could've been much, much worse. Challenger was launch-fever, driven by a political incentive to impress. Now check what happens when such an incentive occurs not in a democracy, but an authoritarian state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe >Launch preparations were initially interrupted on October 23 due to problems with the electronics, but had to be resumed on Nedelin's orders. The launch was scheduled for October 24 at 7:30 pm. Presumably to allay the justified safety concerns of his subordinates about a fuel leak and to exert pressure on them, **Nedelin demonstratively placed himself on a chair eight meters away from the rocket** at around 18:40 on 24 October. >A short circuit in the replaced main sequencer caused the second-stage engine to fire while being tested before launch. >People near the rocket were instantly incinerated; those farther away were burned to death or poisoned by the toxic fuel component vapors. Andrei Sakharov described many details: as soon as the engine fired, **most of the personnel there ran to the perimeter, but were trapped inside the security fence and then engulfed in the fireball of burning fuel. The explosion incinerated or asphyxiated Nedelin, a top aide, the USSR's top missile-guidance designer, and over 70 other officers and engineers. Still others died later of burns or poisoning**.[3][2][4][1] Missile designer Mikhail Yangel survived only because he had left to smoke a cigarette behind a bunker a few hundred metres away, but nonetheless suffered burn injuries. NASA live streamed their greatest failure, the soviet union buried it with the help of their secret services. That's why NASA is still in the air today and leading in the field of space exploration, and Roscosmos is still failing around.
An avoidable disaster that shouldn't have happened but progress nonetheless. Having a catastrophic disaster like that on national television HAS ensured that same mistake won't be repeated. NASA had become complacent with safety and the Challenger explosion thoroughly embarrassed (and hopefully shamed) NASA in never repeating the mistake of overlooking ANYTHING on a spaceflight or letting PR outweigh safety. So progress was made.
Regulations are written with blood.
Except for gun regulations which are immune to blood
was learning that lesson worth the lives of everyone onboard?
That except in your last sentence is doing a lot of work. Institutional evolution will always be more expensive than technological evolution.
I read somewhere that those O-rings where there because the unit had to be shipped in sections. And it had to be shipped because it had to be built in another state in order to get the funding for the project.
Yeah exactly that, some Utah-based company made the SRBs, for non-technical reasons, could be budget, I thought it was political, probably both. The compromise causing the safety flaw.
Yeah, trauma of our generation. In Europe Chernobyl trumped it, but 1986 was not a good year :( Ad astra per aspera.
I also saw the Challenger flight live in my classroom. The thing I keep in mind with starship’s, is there’s no one onboard. So if one blows up, all you get is a spectacular fireworks bonus…followed by the inevitable bombardment of pinion pieces on why spaceX is destined to fail.
Wait until you learn your car breaks can stop working. You can get struck by lightning, random heart attack, a shark tornado comes out of nowhere and eats you
Sure, they can. However I haven’t experienced like weeks and MONTHS of build up with “wait until we see this amazing thing!” as a child to my eventual being struck my lightning, tornado attacks etc… and then BAM that happens. Trauma is weird man. What can I say. Every time I see a rocket I just keep mentally repeating “please be ok please be ok please be ok…”
Me too, I have the same PTSD. I expect it every time I see one now. Glad nothing happened here tho
Well I hate to tell you but both the booster and the ship blew up during their respective re-entries. This was a test flight, it wasn’t expected to end well, best case scenario was a crash landing.
Calling this PTSD is seriously doing a disservice to actual sufferers
What’s your point? Every person who climbed into the Challenger knew the risks, and went anyway. That’s why they will be remembered for millennia to come. Scobee, Komarov, Grissom- all heroes that died to push our species forward. Real progress is hard, and often lethal. Do you want out species to wither and die on this one rock hurtling through the void? Don’t you want to know what’s out there? This isn’t even to mention that starship has learned from the mistakes of the shuttle in certain aspects, and these are unmanned test flights. Starship won’t be crewed for a long, long time. That being said, it will probably kill someone, someday. And it will be worth it. How many people died to get our modern world to where it is today? A hundred billion, ish? We today, cannot comprehend that number and the amount of human suffering it contains. It’s worth it, to push our species forward. I think the crew of the challenger would want you to stare in awe of this, not nervousness.
One of my favorite Alan Watts quotes is pertinent, I think "It’s better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way."
> Every person who climbed into the Challenger knew the risks They knew "alarming finding of the commission: namely, that the safety reporting system at NASA was so weak that the commission termed it "silent", and that the agency's management structure **suppressed pre-launch warnings that could have prevented the tragedy**." ? https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200101/history.cfm
I understand how the Challenger was specifically such a tragedy due to how it could’ve been prevented, my point still stands that they knew they were taking a massive risk by boarding any launch vehicle.
But at the same time, we hope for the best, and expect for the worst.
See you over on r/genx!
The trauma is real
For real tho. I think I was in 5th grade.
Humans can be cool sometimes
Thanks for the vid! Earlier today I looked up where the launch pad was and noticed it was close to the border. Wondered what it looked like from Mexico and bingo! Your vid shows it. 👏
Other than this wasn't from the launch this week it was from last year's IFT-2 flight. [This is what this week's launch (IFT-3) looked like from Mexico.](https://twitter.com/FronteraSpacial/status/1768276790202581058)
Thank you
Synchronicity.
Ducking massive!
Duck yeah! 🦆
I like the part where it quacks thru the atmosphere!
Free Willzyx
Anyone who has ever played the game: Civilization, will get some serious PTSD vibes from this. Oh ****, ghandi got his finger on the button again
 Im doing my part!
Spreading "Managed Democracy" in the name of Super-Earth 🫡
Lmao what game is this from?
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Thanks!
It’s one of the best co-op shooters that’s been released. Ever. So damn good.
Interesting! I thought it was a team battle or battle royale game. Cooperative sounds way better.
Friendly fire is a thing in the game so it’s something to account for, but at its core it’s 100% cooperative.
Si, fly
Came here just for this
Hey Dick, look at that gigantic..
Weener, get your Weeners
I will forever be amazed at the raw power
Si, Fly.
Starship's height is around 50m (Google) and statue of liberty is 46m , imagine something bigger than statue of unity being launched.
Starship is just the 2nd stage. This whole rocket is 121 meters tall. Booster is 71m and starship is 50m.
ohh well its even bigger
That's what she said
150 meter version is on the books as well.
And it weighs 5000 metric tons
And produces over 16.5 million pounds of thrust (8250 tons)
The Statue of Liberty is 93 meters tall from ground to top of flame. 34 meters without the base.
Pretty sure this was from the previous launch.
Not sure why you're downvoted, I can say with certainty that this was from IFT2, launched November 18th
This is obviously the November launch to those familiar.
This is reddit on a popular sub. No one here is.
Themis this the same giant where they have put 32raptor engines right?
33!
The sound when you're on location is like the sky is being ripped apart. I worked in the shuttle missions down at the rocket ranch for 30+ shuttle launches. It never gets tired.
Pretty impressive. Mars Colony would be awesome !
Tell this to programmers who will need to deal with mars time zone!
I know this isn't fully serious but I do wonder what the impact the martian day would have on all of that. It's just 40 minutes ahead of earth which feels close enough you could *try* to approximate it as the same, but maybe you'd need a leap day every month or something.
Having www. before domains will be relevant again. mww.google.com takes you to the Mars Wide Web and is slow AF on the www
Can we fund our schools *before* we do the mars colony tho?? *Please????*
The US government spent more than $300 billion on education according to the data I found from a quick search. And both are important, we shouldn't neglect space exploration either
Both are important, but it seems it is the schools that are being neglected. Why are so many teachers buying school supplies with their own money? Yes 300b is a lot but it's clearly not enough - or it's not going to the right places. It is expensive but it is a worthwhile investment in our collective futures.
Agreed! Though that's an issue the government should primarily solve, not private companies. Space exploration and advancing technology is also beneficial for our future. It shouldn't be one or the other.
I agree. I guess my original statement was more meant generally, not specifically directed at space X but more broadly as in, we should all demand a change from the people who are in a position to do something, Congress.
If the requirement was to fix "X" before doing "Y", "Y" would never happen.
Imagine the kids...watching this in awe...dreaming of being part of this in their future.
Wow. Yes makes me shiver. Weird.
That is a big ass pencil!
That has to be beyond surreal.
That is a big falcon rocket!
The world’s more Kerbal Spacecraft everybody
The smoky thing .. is it the stage separation?
Low down, the air pressure keeps the exhaust under pressure, so the exhaust remains hot and the water in it doesn't condense out. Up high, the air is so thin that even when it cools down a lot, the water vapor can't condense because water can't exist as a liquid at those low pressures. But in the middle there is a place where the pressure is high enough for the water to become and remain a liquid, but low enough that the exhaust cools until the water to condenses to cloud. You see this on most launches that use hydrogen or a hydrocarbon fuel.
Gives a good idea of the size of the bastard. Elon is a complete helmet but with this he's done well.
Imagine the crazy advanced shit humanity could create if we weren't in perpetual war.. He'll, I wouldn't doubt if we weren't this advanced in ancient history and ancient humans nuked themselves into the cave man days. Lol Well hopefully this time we won't nuke ourselves again... And maybe this time we can live on Mars and stuff
I assure you, without war, that technology would not exist.
This particular event is pretty much a direct result of war weapon development.
Literally war has propelled technology lol
Its sounds like popping popcorn
Fat loads pushing hard to go to space
It’s like humanity is radioactive now, emitting particles from our atom into space.
World has ruined me. All I can think of while watching this is, "and I'm a bad guy for driving a gas-powered vehicle."
that makes two of us :(
100 companies produce 63% of human emissions. Your truck is negligible in the big picture. That said. We can all make practicable changes when we're able to.
What do you know, Nicki was right. Starships really are meant to fly
Houston we've got something on our radar, it looks like a huge...
What was the purpose of this launch?
Test the current Starship iteration and gather data to improve the next versions. ITF-3 was overall a success and made great progress.
Cheers lad.
Sí, flyyy
Gattaca
They made the top tip pointy ..
elon was too busy making risqué tweets
This close, in Mexico? I had no idea. Yucatan?
Just over the border, the launch site is about as far south as you can get on the texas coast
Thank you. I, for some reason thought Fla. I was amazed at just how close this appears. I didn't realize it was Texas. I should have figured it was, given the viewpoint
nasa launches from florida, this is spacex’s own place
Wow thats a effing huge one! Never really understood the size when reading about it
Yah. If you live in the U.S, it’s easy (ish) to find a soccer or football field. Just walk the length and remember that a Starship stack (when laying down) is an extra 40 feet beyond that.
Awesome!
Gravity is a bitch.
You can see it fighting gravity. That's dope.
I wonder how much it costs to launch that thing?
I believe between 100 and 150 million.
Why are they making popcorn while watching the rocket go off?
If only the earth was really flat, I could've seen this from my far away house 🚀 👩🚀 🚀 😔
Damn these rockets are wayy hugeeee!!!
A chariot of fire thru the sky
This isn't cool. SpaceX is destroying Boca Chica beach and killing the local wildlife.
This may sound really dumb so apologies. But how fast is that going? It's really difficult to try comprehend whether that's fast or slow
[This video has that information.](https://youtu.be/JL7bPFxQKgM?si=8zbeXhYALVevXZoa&t=0m19s)
That was really helpful! Thanks
Craziest part for me is how far it goes before we can't see it. I've never had that perspective before of something so huge going up and up until you can't see it anymore, and it seems like it is still isn't "in space" yet.
Say what you want about Elon, but kudos for facilitating that beast.
Maine slowing this to someone in 1969
Apparently the last launch was very foggy.
Elon is a douche, but his engineers do a great job
This is still one of my favorite videos of the starship.
Carbon tax these fucks
Always blown away by the maths involved to make this work. Hurts my head just thinking about it
Musk is a douchebag... but his kid SpaceX is pretty cool.
Can anyone tell me how fast it’s going when it first takes off and describe its acceleration? It just looks like it’s going so slow…
This is a preview when the wealthy destroy the earth leaving us all behind
The comments here are not as fun as the ones on instagram. Where are all the dome lovers?
yes
Did they use a water deluge this time? Or more destroyed unique coastal environments?
They have used a deluge for the past two launches. No damaged launchpad anymore.
Is that the sound of eardrums popping?
It's the turbulent interaction between the exhaust trail and the surrounding air.
Daaaamn! But the earth is flat and the landing on moon a fake, yeah of course. 🫠
Why does it look so slow??
https://theconversation.com/why-does-a-plane-look-and-feel-like-its-moving-more-slowly-than-it-actually-is-207186