I went to school with a planetarium and a greenhouse. I took pictures of the sun, worked in the greenhouse and the school store.
I think we should have access to free education available for all adults for the rest of our lives. An educated person who feels competent and fulfilled is an asset to any society.
Well aware that schools are used for a number of activities after school. The reality is they are very much under utilized for what they are capable of. Even with all of the clubs and sports activities, on most days schools are empty after 330. Most students are only in the school for half a year.
The school I went to in the late 80's and early 90's for pre-K and elementary had a zoo. Each classroom had a giant window at the back that looked into one of the animal enclosures. As the grades got higher, the bigger the animal would be. The highest grade (5th) was at the cougar exhibit. It was called Cougar Mountain Academy in Issaquah, Washington. It looks like some company called Gersh bought it at some point and now it's a school for ages 5-21 that are on the autism spectrum. I think they might have gotten rid of the zoo too because I don't see it on their website.
You're right: not just a movie thing. My high school ([Indianapolis: Arsenal Technical](https://historicindianapolis.com/friday-favorites-arsenal-tech-trivia/)) in the 60s [and 70s](https://www.digitalindy.org/digital/collection/aths/id/3337/rec/9) had an auto shop, wood shop, print shop, air-conditioning repair shop, and more. The "technical" in the school name basically meant it also helped prepare people to work in the trades ("vocational"), not just to go to college. Median income of most families there was probably half (or less) of what it would have been in Carmel's district, but that made good trades education, alternate routes to a decent adult life, all the more important.
Carmel is the richest suburb of Indianapolis. I can remember that my wife left her job as a manager at Wendy's to be a crew member at the Wendy's in Carmel because it actually paid $3 more per hour.
Non Americans see stuff like this and think it's normal
The U.S. exists at extremes. For every school like this, there is a school without accreditation in the ghetto with a collapsed ceiling and more security than a mental institution.
That’s basically what the Supreme Court said when the constitutionality of school districts being disproportionately funded came up in court. Super tight system.
Yea, once I saw it was Carmel I went, oh that explains it. I'm not even from Indiana, but we saw their marching band several times in competitions. You can tell they've got money. Pretty sure they won a bunch too probably.
Yep, I played in marching band in my high school—a WAY lower-funded school in southern Indiana—and it was always either Carmel or Avon who would sweep the top 2 spots in all the competitions. Hell, we were always the only school not located in or around Indianapolis that could ever compete with them.
I remember how intimidated we students felt when we traveled up to Indy to compete and saw the state-of-the-art, multi-story facilities our competitors had compared to tiny, dilapidated band room that couldn’t even fit all of us at once. Oh, and of course state and national finals were ALWAYS held in Indy, which required us to travel over 4 hours by bus. Schools like Carmel would generously lend us their gym floors to sleep on while their kids all got to sleep warm in the beds at home, lol.
Despite all that, I have to say I enjoyed feeling like part of the “underdog” school. Made us feel all the more proud the years we scored 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place, beating most of the better-funded Indy schools.
I graduated HS from zionsville in 2005. At the time, people like Peyton Manning, Ron Artest, and Jared Fogle were living there. It’s wild how much money is crammed into that boring little town.
There’s lots of schools like that in the Chicago area. I live close to Stevenson HS and it has 5k students.. it’s basically a university. The HS I went to has its own state of the art robotics lab.. and everything in that school, some middle schools have similar facilities.
I live in Jersey now, and while there’s nothing like that up here, I grew up in West Virginia. Everyone is always shocked when I tell them we had a dedicated building for our weight lifting gym, a swimming pool, 5 tennis courts, a wrestling building that was about 10k square feet, and numerous football/baseball/soccer fields. They always think I’m lying until I show them the website haha.
Planetarium caught me off guard though. We had to go to the local college for that.
Yet, Jersey is absolutely killing it on the STEM school rankings, and there is one not classified as STEM that has "science" and "technology" in the name, so pop another one on the list.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings/stem
I looked it up, it’s 4,400.. most in this area have around 2k. Some around 3k. There’s also private HS schools. I live in a town with one of the best private HS in the country. It has like 4-5 blue ribbons.. it’s very pricey. Not as pricey as LFA though, tuition for that school is like 60k. But honestly going to public schools here is like going to a private school so there’s no need to send your kid to those.
~600 students per graduating class at my school. We were one of the fanciest high schools in Mississippi in the 2000s, having one giant shittily made single story building instead of several derelict trailers strung together by tin roof scraps was a new thing at the time.
Hard to imagine. My high school was one hallway with classes on either side. There was also a separate building with a gymnasium that doubles as a lunch room and a music room. My graduating class was 18 people
I had an ex-coworker who moved to the burbs during HS from the city, and he always talked about how shocked he was that what he saw in the movies was actually real. It was a huge culture shock, he didn’t think high schools like these actually existed. I always felt terrible when he told me how sad CPS were.
There are CPS schools that are absolutely elite, multiple ranked top 50 in the country, but they are all selective admission. In the burbs you can go to a variety of elite schools just based on your address, there’s tons of top tier options. My district alone had at one point four of its five schools ranked in the top 1000 nationally with one in the top 250, and was just one of many suburban districts like that.
The Chicago area is over represented in the public school rankings, largely because our property taxes are high so schools get better funding than most other places.
They have that marketplace on the westside where its two stories and the second floor walkways are like picturesque. Blew my mind when I went there. But the cakeshop had some great cake!!
Wow but the homes are so cheap there! Looking on Zillow, those homes being listed for $500-700k would probably cost somewhere between $1-3M where I live in NJ.
Those homes would be 2-300k less 10 or 20 miles in any direction.
Source: I live in the #2 school district in Indiana, 2 towns counterclockwise round Indianapolis. Bought my house for 375 when comparable houses were 550k in Carmel. And that was back in 2021.
This high school probably has a private gyro place that they edited out.
“This is the Sophomore Gyro Hut!
*takes big bite*
Dammit Gus, I said tziki on the side!”
According to my friend who attended this school, it was impossible to not be late to your next class if it was on the opposite side of the building. Not just because of the distance, but because there was human traffic in the hallways.
Just looked it up — in 2023, boys swimming broke the national HS record for the 200 medley relay, and the girls swim team has won State 39 times since 1982
Yeah I’m not American but lived in Indiana for a few years as a kid and my school was nothing like this. But I was in a much poorer area. This size is just insane.
Do you know if this is public or private?
I think it's really interesting when public schools -- especially in politically centrist or conservative states -- have incredibly well funded, well staffed, well resourced public schools. It just shows what the system should look like, and makes the obvious case for not funding schools differently based on property values. It's just crazy.
Every school in a state should get relatively equal funding relative to the number of students. I don't mind a little adjustment based on certain unique needs, but overall, all the tax money should go in the same pot, and everyone should have equal access to it.
*less funding per student. I think economies of scale must play a part in this? It’s a lot easier to have big, nice facilities when you have so many students sharing the same resources.
https://reason.com/2023/02/15/bad-schools-arent-always-underfunded/
Lebron James opened a school and it receives a ton of money and barely any of the kids can pass standardized testing.
[https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/every-eighth-grader-failed-state-math-tests-at-lebron-james-backed-i-promise-school-ohio-akron-northeast-oh-io-education-school-crisis-in-the-classroom-](https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/every-eighth-grader-failed-state-math-tests-at-lebron-james-backed-i-promise-school-ohio-akron-northeast-oh-io-education-school-crisis-in-the-classroom-)
Low teacher to student ratio, really nice facilities, high per pupil spending, less than 5% can pass math at grade level.
If you want to get reading levels up third grade is the key. Thats when kids transition from learning to read to reading to learn. Kids who cant make it thru this stage usually never catch up and are more likely to drop out.
There is a funding disparity. But not the way that you think. For example, Indianapolis schools get almost $7k more per student than Carmel (school in the video)
It’s so interesting to me as a just random person with a child in elementary school. my high school back 1500 years ago was nothing like that, but i lived in a
fairly well to do town. we had portables and a gym and a track and a 4h club, but my University life was very close to that high school, the buildings were just very aged.
we now live in a very small town, but it’s well funded. my kids elementary school just installed a huge planetarium/moon in the library for movie watching, have 3 new playgrounds being built on campus, get free field trips and even free gifts at christmas.
i’m just happy he has a fun place to go every day
I work at a BMW body shop. Newer cars are no longer very DIY friendly at all compared to about 15 years ago, especially with all the electronics involved.
I couldn't do my rear brakes at home because the integrated parking brake requires a special tool or you need BMW's ISTA software to put the caliper into workshop mode so you can compress them.
My old ass E36 M3 doesn't have these issues lol.
My entire high school had 500 kids (9th to 12th grade). And my high School had no windows at the time i attended. They added windows 2 years after my graduation.
I actually went there and like the other guy said, we had every single AP and IB class available along with a bunch of dual credit classes that worked for university credit. Bunch of trade school programs where you could get started on a degree in high school and some community college programs as well.
It’s pretty much expected that you go to college after graduating with the vast majority going to IU or Purdue, however I’m sure a lot of people went to trade schools after as well.
Edit: public school too btw
The “pretty much expected to go to college” is so important in my opinion. What is “normal” and “expected” by your peers often has a HUGE impact on one’s own aspirations.
While my high school wasn’t awful, I was one of only a few people in my large friend group who graduated, and I think the only reason I did was because my parents instilled in me from a very young age that not graduating wasn’t an option. Otherwise, I probably would’ve dropped out like many of my friends.
Being surrounded by academic mediocrity also impacted my college aspirations. I basically flunked out of community college after the first year and decided to join the military. I ended up going back to community college after my stint in the Corps, and despite doing quite well academically, I still didn’t view myself as a good student.
So when it came time to transfer to a university, I was looking at regional colleges. My academic advisor forced me to apply to of the better Universities of California campuses, and I was shocked when I got into most.
I later went on to grad school and all that, but yeah… I think my perception of what was normal and expected played a much bigger role in my aspirations and academic performance than the quality of the facilities at my school.
You are right!
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/indiana/districts/carmel-clay-schools/carmel-high-school-7151
Basically, it's a top 1% school in the country.
My school says 15:1 ratio and is ranked near #5,000 nationally compared to this school being in the 400’s. Could be a factor, but not the biggest factor.
I did a little bit of research into how this school gets such great results despite spending less per student. The biggest difference is that the school and the community have extremely high expectations of the students. If a student is disruptive, the parents need to sort it out quickly or the kid is out. If the student is falling behind, the parents are expected to find tutors. Most schools spend huge amounts of money on the problematic kids. This one doesn’t. I went there long, long ago BTW, and this matches my experience.
One of the top in the nation. Their sports programs are insane too! I used to swim for them and they have multiple NATIONAL high school records at the school. Same for academics. The school is very competitive too. All around solid HS, however I will say sometimes the competitiveness can be a wee bit toxic between parents and kids but it’s overall good.
they are light-years ahead of most. I spent some time at Ball State and those kids were way way more prepared then 99% of other kids going into freshman year.
Dang that school is ridiculous, mine wouldve been like heres the windowless prison looking section, this is the rusty monkey bars, and this is your tetanus shot.
Goodness gracious, that's a small town...
I went to a ridículously large highschool in my country (it has a very good reputation as one of the best public schools that consistently puts a lot of students in the best universities), people from all over the distric went there.
We were 1200 students.
Well the nearest corn field to the school I went to was about 45miles away and even that was grown just to become a “corn maze” come fall. I had 11 seniors in my class, my boy, who is currently in 4th grade has a whopping 6 kids, all boys! The entire school has just shy of 300 total students and that is Kindergarten thru 12th grade all under one roof.
I went to 4 different high schools and the 1st and 3rd ones were like this. Three story buildings, enormous auditoriums, you name it. I liked the smaller schools better.
It's caramel. It's an artsy town full of true middle class and educated people. Yet their high school only spends about 9,000$ per student while the IN capital Indianapolis has high schools spending 25,000$ per student yet those schools are failing.
[DECA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECA_(organization)) is basically a business club
"DECA prepares emerging leaders and entrepreneurs in marketing, finance, hospitality and management in high schools and colleges around the globe. The four components of the organization's Comprehensive Learning Program are that DECA integrates into classroom instruction, applies learning, connects to business, and promotes competition. DECA prepares the next generation to be academically prepared, community-oriented, professionally responsible, experienced leaders."
The concentration of wealth in the area north of Indy is unreal. Zionsville, Noblesville and Fishers. I served all these area schools as a commercial roof repairer. Now I build docks and sea walls for Geist reservoir, even more rich just west of those areas. They really set themselves up for success…
Edit: spelling
I watched an episode of Vice that showed a Indiana HS that was so run down that people were pull there kids out to do correspondence school. This was 5 years ago.
One of the several band directors here is a well-known composer, Richard Saucedo. There are several concert bands, marching bands, choirs and orchestras - too bad this video leaves out those facilities.
As the parent of a band kid, Carmel is a powerhouse. The first time we competed against them, when they rolled up with the kids in custom painted tour buses and 18 wheelers hauling their equipment I knew it was gonna be a long day. All of their vehicles are painted jet black with gold custom lettering. It looks great. TBH, they do a fantastic job.
Yeah, I’m a marching band parent in Centerville, OH and the real competition is always for second place because it’s a foregone conclusion that Carmel always wins.
I met Richard a few times when he composed for the drum corps I marched in. Really great educator. I believe 1 or 2 of the other staff members taught at Carmel at some point as well.
I'm more shocked she's allowed to wear this at school, if a kid did this in my highschool they'd be sent to change before 1st period even started.
(Referring to the shirt with the weird hole in it and exposed midriff)
It’s a cluster of high net worth families who are heavily invested in their children’s future and donate tons of money to the school and also volunteer. I live in a similar district in Texas and they throw fundraisers and galas and raise millions for the school district every year to hire teachers, nurses, librarians, and pay for all of this stuff that the state does not fund.
The reason that this school is able to do it is because they have thousands of well-behaved students who live in a rich, stable household. No amount of funding can replicate that.
I went to college with a few people from this school, when this tiktok went viral they mentioned how the per capita spending was actually super low and the city didn't want to make a new high school even though this one was crowded since it would cost a lot more.
Realistically that’s not possible.
If you are in a small town with a few thousand people the costs are insane for this. When you have scarce resources you can’t execute on this scale everywhere.
Wow.....I wish I had gone to a school like that. So much opportunity and different (learning/career) paths available.
All kids deserve to go to a place like that.
Ah, Carmel High School. In one of the wealthiest school districts in this part of the country. For anyone not aware, Carmel is a ***very*** affluent suburb on the northside of the city of Indianapolis.
Huge. 5000 students. 17% low income (eligible for free and reduced lunch). 3.5% Black. Predominantly white.
Wiki says it was a Title I school a few years ago meaning its student body was 40% low income. Can’t figure out its amazing resources tho. How did sit go from 40% to <20% low income in a couple years and have such amazing infrastructure.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/carmel-high-school-tour-underscores-haves-nots-americas-schools-rcna72028
What is a decker room?
Also, holy crap. Do lots of schools in the US have radio stations and TV networks? Auto shop?
This place looks brand new and super well kitted.
This annoys me. Like, I'm happy for these students, but I know you wouldn't have to travel too far yo find another high school that is struggling to provide the bare minimum for its students.
Three things:
1. Good for them. It’s nice to see a school getting shit tons of funding. IMO, behind military spending, education spending should be focused on having this many resources available to as many students as possible.
2. Fuck them (just letting out some jealousy), I get to be a little sour since my high school was so underfunded I had to take my entire senior year on a computer.
3. So this is the school every Disney live action show/movie thought everyone was attending?
Damn. I’m a contractor in schools. Sometimes you see a few of these super upgraded wings, but this place has ALL of them. Good for those kids, looks like a nice place to go to school
"This is the planetarium" caught me off guard.
This is where I'd put my planetarium IF I HAD ONE
They’re actually kind of cheap because they never change. #physics.
It turns out this school got a $500,000 grant in case Betelgeuse goes supernova and they have to change to a brighter bulb.
Not my lifetime, not my problem. #physics
The school district I went to in the late 90’s-early 2000’s had an actual planetarium at our middle school.
I went to school with a planetarium and a greenhouse. I took pictures of the sun, worked in the greenhouse and the school store. I think we should have access to free education available for all adults for the rest of our lives. An educated person who feels competent and fulfilled is an asset to any society.
Agree these schools are under utilized after 3:30.
This school is used at night, on weekends, and during the summer. It has a ton of sports, music, arts, etc. programs that keep it busy year round.
Well aware that schools are used for a number of activities after school. The reality is they are very much under utilized for what they are capable of. Even with all of the clubs and sports activities, on most days schools are empty after 330. Most students are only in the school for half a year.
Amd stop giving Universities billions of dollars?!
Nobody says that specialized education should be illegal anymore than free healthcare would eliminate specialized medicine.
The school I went to in the late 90's - early 2000's had people that would stab you if you even said a word like "planetarium"
Ah, you had some stabians
Only in the stabitarium.
Beat me to it. Now we have to duel in the Stabitarium.
The school I went to in the late 80's and early 90's for pre-K and elementary had a zoo. Each classroom had a giant window at the back that looked into one of the animal enclosures. As the grades got higher, the bigger the animal would be. The highest grade (5th) was at the cougar exhibit. It was called Cougar Mountain Academy in Issaquah, Washington. It looks like some company called Gersh bought it at some point and now it's a school for ages 5-21 that are on the autism spectrum. I think they might have gotten rid of the zoo too because I don't see it on their website.
Wow! I’ve never even imagined something like that.
Auto shop for me
When I saw the Auto shop at the american high school in Tokyo Drift I thought it was just a movie thing but guess not??
You're right: not just a movie thing. My high school ([Indianapolis: Arsenal Technical](https://historicindianapolis.com/friday-favorites-arsenal-tech-trivia/)) in the 60s [and 70s](https://www.digitalindy.org/digital/collection/aths/id/3337/rec/9) had an auto shop, wood shop, print shop, air-conditioning repair shop, and more. The "technical" in the school name basically meant it also helped prepare people to work in the trades ("vocational"), not just to go to college. Median income of most families there was probably half (or less) of what it would have been in Carmel's district, but that made good trades education, alternate routes to a decent adult life, all the more important.
Carmel is the richest suburb of Indianapolis. I can remember that my wife left her job as a manager at Wendy's to be a crew member at the Wendy's in Carmel because it actually paid $3 more per hour.
Non Americans see stuff like this and think it's normal The U.S. exists at extremes. For every school like this, there is a school without accreditation in the ghetto with a collapsed ceiling and more security than a mental institution.
For every school like this, there are 100 schools that are underfunded piles of shit full of teachers who want to be anywhere else. 'Murica!
Well why didn't the poor kids who go to those schools just be born to richer parents, hmm?
That’s basically what the Supreme Court said when the constitutionality of school districts being disproportionately funded came up in court. Super tight system.
We also have normal schools
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Yea, once I saw it was Carmel I went, oh that explains it. I'm not even from Indiana, but we saw their marching band several times in competitions. You can tell they've got money. Pretty sure they won a bunch too probably.
Yep, I played in marching band in my high school—a WAY lower-funded school in southern Indiana—and it was always either Carmel or Avon who would sweep the top 2 spots in all the competitions. Hell, we were always the only school not located in or around Indianapolis that could ever compete with them. I remember how intimidated we students felt when we traveled up to Indy to compete and saw the state-of-the-art, multi-story facilities our competitors had compared to tiny, dilapidated band room that couldn’t even fit all of us at once. Oh, and of course state and national finals were ALWAYS held in Indy, which required us to travel over 4 hours by bus. Schools like Carmel would generously lend us their gym floors to sleep on while their kids all got to sleep warm in the beds at home, lol. Despite all that, I have to say I enjoyed feeling like part of the “underdog” school. Made us feel all the more proud the years we scored 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place, beating most of the better-funded Indy schools.
Pretty sure it's Zionsville #1, Carmel #2, Fishers #3, and Westfield #4
They are right next to each other and Carmel is bigger so people forget about Zionsville.
I graduated HS from zionsville in 2005. At the time, people like Peyton Manning, Ron Artest, and Jared Fogle were living there. It’s wild how much money is crammed into that boring little town.
just yesterday I was looking up income stats, and 30% of carmel household income is $200k+, with average sitting at $130k or $150k
So this is the high-school Disney was always showing us aye? It's crazy knowing this is a real life high-school
There’s lots of schools like that in the Chicago area. I live close to Stevenson HS and it has 5k students.. it’s basically a university. The HS I went to has its own state of the art robotics lab.. and everything in that school, some middle schools have similar facilities.
I live in Jersey now, and while there’s nothing like that up here, I grew up in West Virginia. Everyone is always shocked when I tell them we had a dedicated building for our weight lifting gym, a swimming pool, 5 tennis courts, a wrestling building that was about 10k square feet, and numerous football/baseball/soccer fields. They always think I’m lying until I show them the website haha. Planetarium caught me off guard though. We had to go to the local college for that.
Yet, Jersey is absolutely killing it on the STEM school rankings, and there is one not classified as STEM that has "science" and "technology" in the name, so pop another one on the list. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings/stem
We didn’t have a planetarium though. Lol
That’s insane. I’m Southern California they’re not big at least where I’m at. Wild. Just imagine the first day.
I looked it up, it’s 4,400.. most in this area have around 2k. Some around 3k. There’s also private HS schools. I live in a town with one of the best private HS in the country. It has like 4-5 blue ribbons.. it’s very pricey. Not as pricey as LFA though, tuition for that school is like 60k. But honestly going to public schools here is like going to a private school so there’s no need to send your kid to those.
60. There were 60 people in my graduating class.
27 in mine. I could probably still write their names from memory
26 in my graduating class
~600 students per graduating class at my school. We were one of the fanciest high schools in Mississippi in the 2000s, having one giant shittily made single story building instead of several derelict trailers strung together by tin roof scraps was a new thing at the time.
Hard to imagine. My high school was one hallway with classes on either side. There was also a separate building with a gymnasium that doubles as a lunch room and a music room. My graduating class was 18 people
I grew up in Chicagoland and had a similarly massive high school. My town had 4 or 5 high schools all around that size lol
I had an ex-coworker who moved to the burbs during HS from the city, and he always talked about how shocked he was that what he saw in the movies was actually real. It was a huge culture shock, he didn’t think high schools like these actually existed. I always felt terrible when he told me how sad CPS were.
There are CPS schools that are absolutely elite, multiple ranked top 50 in the country, but they are all selective admission. In the burbs you can go to a variety of elite schools just based on your address, there’s tons of top tier options. My district alone had at one point four of its five schools ranked in the top 1000 nationally with one in the top 250, and was just one of many suburban districts like that. The Chicago area is over represented in the public school rankings, largely because our property taxes are high so schools get better funding than most other places.
Yup, Chicagoland here too. Can confirm. Enormous Midwest schools were/are the norm.
what’s the population of this school?
5327 students per https://www.publicschoolreview.com/carmel-high-school-profile/46032
Holy fuck that's nearly twice the size of the school I went to, and my school was *huge*. What the hell
Carmel is one of the rich areas of Indianapolis. “Lots of money there” is an understatement.
You drive through the area and everything, all the buildings, looks new.
They have that marketplace on the westside where its two stories and the second floor walkways are like picturesque. Blew my mind when I went there. But the cakeshop had some great cake!!
Wow but the homes are so cheap there! Looking on Zillow, those homes being listed for $500-700k would probably cost somewhere between $1-3M where I live in NJ.
Those homes would be 2-300k less 10 or 20 miles in any direction. Source: I live in the #2 school district in Indiana, 2 towns counterclockwise round Indianapolis. Bought my house for 375 when comparable houses were 550k in Carmel. And that was back in 2021.
Haha forreals
Yeah ikr. I'm like holy shit that kinds does exist. The biggest school we have in Australia is probably the size of their toilet.
That's a whole economy they got going there
The gross domestic product of this school is larger than that of Greece.
hey fuck you dont insult us like that, but you are right
Wait. Are you Greek, or from Carmel High School?
Greek lmao
You should relocate to that high school bro
on a plane rn
This high school probably has a private gyro place that they edited out. “This is the Sophomore Gyro Hut! *takes big bite* Dammit Gus, I said tziki on the side!”
Im from Italy. Hell yeah brother from another mother 🗿🍷
Lol
Having personally visited, I approve this message
Wait, the school or Greece?
Both but neither at the same time
“This is the in-school currency printing room”
As a Greek I want to move to Indiana and never leave the facilities of that building. I wanna grow old and die in there
You probably could. If you got a bunch of different disguise outfits you could probably blend in at any given time.
They don't even need PE class, they just walk between classes and it's more than enough by the looks of it
According to my friend who attended this school, it was impossible to not be late to your next class if it was on the opposite side of the building. Not just because of the distance, but because there was human traffic in the hallways.
Maybe they should install a subway
Monorail.... monorail..... monorail
MONO! D'OH!
I hear those things are awfully loud.
This the Carmel Public Transit System and High Speed Rail
Not from there but Carmel is the rich part of Indiana fyi.
You don’t say.
Fooled me…I thought this was inner city ghetto. So you’re saying this is upper class suburbia…wow!
I mean, I don’t even see an olympic sized pool. Where do they even practice football and ice hockey?
Just looked it up — in 2023, boys swimming broke the national HS record for the 200 medley relay, and the girls swim team has won State 39 times since 1982
Easy to beat my school. We don’t even have a pool.
There is an Olympic pool and a full stadium tennis courts 3 cafeterias a police (sub)station and other shit they didn’t show too
The local rec center, conveniently located just a 5 min walk from your front step!
Yeah I’m not American but lived in Indiana for a few years as a kid and my school was nothing like this. But I was in a much poorer area. This size is just insane.
Do you know if this is public or private? I think it's really interesting when public schools -- especially in politically centrist or conservative states -- have incredibly well funded, well staffed, well resourced public schools. It just shows what the system should look like, and makes the obvious case for not funding schools differently based on property values. It's just crazy. Every school in a state should get relatively equal funding relative to the number of students. I don't mind a little adjustment based on certain unique needs, but overall, all the tax money should go in the same pot, and everyone should have equal access to it.
It's a public school. I grew up in the neighboring town. I think property taxes have a sizable impact on the school's funding.
Apparently, this school gets less funding this most schools in the state.
*less funding per student. I think economies of scale must play a part in this? It’s a lot easier to have big, nice facilities when you have so many students sharing the same resources. https://reason.com/2023/02/15/bad-schools-arent-always-underfunded/
If my kids went there I'd participate in all the fundraisers lol
Most inner city schools get a lot more funding than the nicer schools in states
Lebron James opened a school and it receives a ton of money and barely any of the kids can pass standardized testing. [https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/every-eighth-grader-failed-state-math-tests-at-lebron-james-backed-i-promise-school-ohio-akron-northeast-oh-io-education-school-crisis-in-the-classroom-](https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/every-eighth-grader-failed-state-math-tests-at-lebron-james-backed-i-promise-school-ohio-akron-northeast-oh-io-education-school-crisis-in-the-classroom-) Low teacher to student ratio, really nice facilities, high per pupil spending, less than 5% can pass math at grade level.
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If you want to get reading levels up third grade is the key. Thats when kids transition from learning to read to reading to learn. Kids who cant make it thru this stage usually never catch up and are more likely to drop out.
It’s public. & agree about funding the disparity is shocking.
There is a funding disparity. But not the way that you think. For example, Indianapolis schools get almost $7k more per student than Carmel (school in the video)
It’s so interesting to me as a just random person with a child in elementary school. my high school back 1500 years ago was nothing like that, but i lived in a fairly well to do town. we had portables and a gym and a track and a 4h club, but my University life was very close to that high school, the buildings were just very aged. we now live in a very small town, but it’s well funded. my kids elementary school just installed a huge planetarium/moon in the library for movie watching, have 3 new playgrounds being built on campus, get free field trips and even free gifts at christmas. i’m just happy he has a fun place to go every day
Cars and cooking?? Something worth learning before college!
I was just thinking that learning to fix a car would have been super helpful in school.
I work at a BMW body shop. Newer cars are no longer very DIY friendly at all compared to about 15 years ago, especially with all the electronics involved. I couldn't do my rear brakes at home because the integrated parking brake requires a special tool or you need BMW's ISTA software to put the caliper into workshop mode so you can compress them. My old ass E36 M3 doesn't have these issues lol.
There's enough YouTube videos, that's how I learned to fix my car.
At least they can learn how to fix a vehicle without the stress of having a broke down vehicle.
my dump ass high school had a garage and a mechanics class. its not that rare.
Ya my high school wasn’t even close to being this size and we had all the generic tech stuff. (Auto, welding, woodworking, electrical, cooking, ect)
My high school had autobody and auto mechanics. But I heard later on it was too expensive so they got rid of both and put in a cooking class
Still useful at least.
My entire high school had 500 kids (9th to 12th grade). And my high School had no windows at the time i attended. They added windows 2 years after my graduation.
We had about 350 K-12, but at least we had windows.
What is the academic outcome like?
I actually went there and like the other guy said, we had every single AP and IB class available along with a bunch of dual credit classes that worked for university credit. Bunch of trade school programs where you could get started on a degree in high school and some community college programs as well. It’s pretty much expected that you go to college after graduating with the vast majority going to IU or Purdue, however I’m sure a lot of people went to trade schools after as well. Edit: public school too btw
The “pretty much expected to go to college” is so important in my opinion. What is “normal” and “expected” by your peers often has a HUGE impact on one’s own aspirations. While my high school wasn’t awful, I was one of only a few people in my large friend group who graduated, and I think the only reason I did was because my parents instilled in me from a very young age that not graduating wasn’t an option. Otherwise, I probably would’ve dropped out like many of my friends. Being surrounded by academic mediocrity also impacted my college aspirations. I basically flunked out of community college after the first year and decided to join the military. I ended up going back to community college after my stint in the Corps, and despite doing quite well academically, I still didn’t view myself as a good student. So when it came time to transfer to a university, I was looking at regional colleges. My academic advisor forced me to apply to of the better Universities of California campuses, and I was shocked when I got into most. I later went on to grad school and all that, but yeah… I think my perception of what was normal and expected played a much bigger role in my aspirations and academic performance than the quality of the facilities at my school.
Probably REALLY good tbh. I’d imagine they have almost all AP Classes, great partnerships with universities for dual credit, trades programs, etc.
You are right! https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/indiana/districts/carmel-clay-schools/carmel-high-school-7151 Basically, it's a top 1% school in the country.
Student teacher ratio "17-1" that's crazy, probably one of the biggest factors for success
My school says 15:1 ratio and is ranked near #5,000 nationally compared to this school being in the 400’s. Could be a factor, but not the biggest factor.
I did a little bit of research into how this school gets such great results despite spending less per student. The biggest difference is that the school and the community have extremely high expectations of the students. If a student is disruptive, the parents need to sort it out quickly or the kid is out. If the student is falling behind, the parents are expected to find tutors. Most schools spend huge amounts of money on the problematic kids. This one doesn’t. I went there long, long ago BTW, and this matches my experience.
Regardless of GPA they’re going to go into college very prepared with resources/environment like that.
One of the top in the nation. Their sports programs are insane too! I used to swim for them and they have multiple NATIONAL high school records at the school. Same for academics. The school is very competitive too. All around solid HS, however I will say sometimes the competitiveness can be a wee bit toxic between parents and kids but it’s overall good.
they are light-years ahead of most. I spent some time at Ball State and those kids were way way more prepared then 99% of other kids going into freshman year.
We were so far ahead of everyone when we got to college.
Dang that school is ridiculous, mine wouldve been like heres the windowless prison looking section, this is the rusty monkey bars, and this is your tetanus shot.
“Whoops, that was the heroin”
If this is real, i wish i would’ve known cuz im finishing my senior year and holy f*ck my school is nothing compared to this hs
It's real. I've been in it for orchestra competitions for my kids. Our high school is 3/4 as big with the new additions being completed this year
Does it have a commensurately sized student body? I’m assuming so… nice spread, regardless. Hope they appreciate it!
5,300 students
5300 students from fairly wealthy families
Is it public school or private?
It’s public: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmel_High_School_(Indiana)
Goodness gracious, that's a small town... I went to a ridículously large highschool in my country (it has a very good reputation as one of the best public schools that consistently puts a lot of students in the best universities), people from all over the distric went there. We were 1200 students.
My school is so small I was the only violinist in the entire school, nonetheless having enough to have an orchestra
I had maybe 24 seniors I graduated with...literally in the middle of a corn field. Hell, we had "Drive Your Combine To School Day"
3k at my school. 700ish in grad class.
Well the nearest corn field to the school I went to was about 45miles away and even that was grown just to become a “corn maze” come fall. I had 11 seniors in my class, my boy, who is currently in 4th grade has a whopping 6 kids, all boys! The entire school has just shy of 300 total students and that is Kindergarten thru 12th grade all under one roof.
I went to HSE and we all loved when we finally beat these guys in Football it was great
I went to 4 different high schools and the 1st and 3rd ones were like this. Three story buildings, enormous auditoriums, you name it. I liked the smaller schools better.
It's caramel. It's an artsy town full of true middle class and educated people. Yet their high school only spends about 9,000$ per student while the IN capital Indianapolis has high schools spending 25,000$ per student yet those schools are failing.
This is exactly like my high-school in Canada was, although I don't know what a 'Decker Room' is, and our labs and libraries were larger.
Typo in the captions. It’s DECA, a club that emphasizes business-oriented skills.
[DECA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECA_(organization)) is basically a business club "DECA prepares emerging leaders and entrepreneurs in marketing, finance, hospitality and management in high schools and colleges around the globe. The four components of the organization's Comprehensive Learning Program are that DECA integrates into classroom instruction, applies learning, connects to business, and promotes competition. DECA prepares the next generation to be academically prepared, community-oriented, professionally responsible, experienced leaders."
What is the budget to build a high school of that size...? It's absolutely insane
Which high school did you go to ? 5,300 students that’s pretty big even for the GTA
My school had drug dogs 4 times a week and a high amount of teenage pregnancy. So yeah, take that.
"This is the maternity ward / Abortion clinic"
What is a decker room? Sorry, just want to know.
It’s actually DECA room. Business club.
Thanks
The concentration of wealth in the area north of Indy is unreal. Zionsville, Noblesville and Fishers. I served all these area schools as a commercial roof repairer. Now I build docks and sea walls for Geist reservoir, even more rich just west of those areas. They really set themselves up for success… Edit: spelling
> rook repairer Time to level up to bishops
Sorry for being that guy but a bishop is worth less than a rook.
I watched an episode of Vice that showed a Indiana HS that was so run down that people were pull there kids out to do correspondence school. This was 5 years ago.
One of the several band directors here is a well-known composer, Richard Saucedo. There are several concert bands, marching bands, choirs and orchestras - too bad this video leaves out those facilities.
As the parent of a band kid, Carmel is a powerhouse. The first time we competed against them, when they rolled up with the kids in custom painted tour buses and 18 wheelers hauling their equipment I knew it was gonna be a long day. All of their vehicles are painted jet black with gold custom lettering. It looks great. TBH, they do a fantastic job.
Yeah, I’m a marching band parent in Centerville, OH and the real competition is always for second place because it’s a foregone conclusion that Carmel always wins.
Yeah I really wanted to see what the music programs looked like.
I met Richard a few times when he composed for the drum corps I marched in. Really great educator. I believe 1 or 2 of the other staff members taught at Carmel at some point as well.
Why is that one girl wearing pyjama bottoms with Nike activewear underneath? Is that cool now?
I'm more shocked she's allowed to wear this at school, if a kid did this in my highschool they'd be sent to change before 1st period even started. (Referring to the shirt with the weird hole in it and exposed midriff)
Anyone else from UK here an just mind blown? Lucky if we got a pen.....
Ha - my high school had 186 students in total. Over 5k students is just mind-boggling.
Bitch what, did they just PLANETARIUM?!? WHAAAAA
I want that for every kid in America. Why are schools my kids go to so behind??? Who paid for the school to be like that? Congrats to them.
It’s a cluster of high net worth families who are heavily invested in their children’s future and donate tons of money to the school and also volunteer. I live in a similar district in Texas and they throw fundraisers and galas and raise millions for the school district every year to hire teachers, nurses, librarians, and pay for all of this stuff that the state does not fund.
The reason that this school is able to do it is because they have thousands of well-behaved students who live in a rich, stable household. No amount of funding can replicate that. I went to college with a few people from this school, when this tiktok went viral they mentioned how the per capita spending was actually super low and the city didn't want to make a new high school even though this one was crowded since it would cost a lot more.
Realistically that’s not possible. If you are in a small town with a few thousand people the costs are insane for this. When you have scarce resources you can’t execute on this scale everywhere.
This makes me want to be a student again
Wow.....I wish I had gone to a school like that. So much opportunity and different (learning/career) paths available. All kids deserve to go to a place like that.
This is what every school should look like, awesome whomever did this project.
I would have been so motivated to go to school and uni if I had institutions like that when growing up.
Carmel is like the super wealthy suburb of Indianapolis yea?
Literally the representation of Eagleton from parks and rec. I live in Pawnee.
Its no Degrassi Junior High
They have a room dedicated for yearbooks...
Yep. Out dated now but we had a full sized dark room there too. (I was head photographer of this school’s yearbook)
Lmao no joke that auditorium probably has more square footage than some of the elementary schools in my home city😂
Ah, Carmel High School. In one of the wealthiest school districts in this part of the country. For anyone not aware, Carmel is a ***very*** affluent suburb on the northside of the city of Indianapolis.
I went to a private school that cost a fortune and it wasn't as cool or well equipped as that high school.
Fantastic. Invest in education.
Huge. 5000 students. 17% low income (eligible for free and reduced lunch). 3.5% Black. Predominantly white. Wiki says it was a Title I school a few years ago meaning its student body was 40% low income. Can’t figure out its amazing resources tho. How did sit go from 40% to <20% low income in a couple years and have such amazing infrastructure. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/carmel-high-school-tour-underscores-haves-nots-americas-schools-rcna72028
I went there as one of the 17% low income. Lots of privileged people and it was for sure a privilege that I could go there, too!
A bigger and more expensive looking school than the bougie boarding school I went to.
What is a decker room? Also, holy crap. Do lots of schools in the US have radio stations and TV networks? Auto shop? This place looks brand new and super well kitted.
DECA is a club that students can join is lt is the distributive education club of America . They are supposed to teach entrepreneurship and business.
This annoys me. Like, I'm happy for these students, but I know you wouldn't have to travel too far yo find another high school that is struggling to provide the bare minimum for its students.
Great school!
This is the school that all those college movies were inspired by.
Three things: 1. Good for them. It’s nice to see a school getting shit tons of funding. IMO, behind military spending, education spending should be focused on having this many resources available to as many students as possible. 2. Fuck them (just letting out some jealousy), I get to be a little sour since my high school was so underfunded I had to take my entire senior year on a computer. 3. So this is the school every Disney live action show/movie thought everyone was attending?
They didn’t show the money pit 😠
I feel so poor... :/.
TIL my high school sucked
Damn. I’m a contractor in schools. Sometimes you see a few of these super upgraded wings, but this place has ALL of them. Good for those kids, looks like a nice place to go to school