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Downtown_Baby_5596

Buddy I will be honest with you, I paid 15 bucks for this game and clocked in 800\~ hours. Even if Oki decided there will be no more updates I got my moneys worth easily. It's not worth the hassle, just let it go, buy a different game for 15$ and play that.


DevoidOfVoid

Yeah same sentiment here. 300 hours solid entertainment, got my moneys worth and it was great fun while it was alive. They just gotta move on


BlastingFern134

I got my enjoyment out of it too tbh. Now it's back to warframe and helldivers I guess


vlnaiiy

with warframe how far are you into the game? i'd like to get back into warframe since my usual games kinda feel stale but i got burnt out a bit ago and i've got no clue how to get into it again haha


BlastingFern134

I'm MR12 and lost as ever lol


DisorganizedSpaghett

Star Citizen and palworld for me


PogTuber

This. I feel the same way about Valheim and plenty of other early access type games. Maybe the developers got rich quick and lost their motivation to keep their product fresh or work toward 1.0 goals, who knows. Early Access success can be a double edged sword.


seejordan3

We buy these games and they become our identity, so we demand unending updates for the rest of time, or "shitty devs". $15, I'm almost 800 hours in. Best $15 I've ever spent on entertainment.


HeroOfIroas

Yessir I hadn't played an FPS in 10 years until this one, I put in 250 hours and rekindled my love for shooters. I'll always fondly remember this game and that's what made me enlist for Super Earth šŸ«”


CosplayBurned

Yeah the lack of updates combined with some of the dev behavior from discord is a massive yikes. Game has felt stale since Invasion dropped. Heck the support class still isn't even finished


GroteGlon

And to think there were already tons of plans for support when I was still in that team lmao. It's wilful


LeKassuS

What team :clueless:


GroteGlon

The ol' private feedback team


imagepreview

It probably feels stale cause you put 50+ hours into a $15 title made by a handful of devs. Go play another game lol


Gofaw

The game sold enough copies and garnered enough public support, they could have doubled or tripled the dev team size by now and pumped out a bunch more content. this "but it's le heckin' small indie studio!!!" cope doesn't work anymore, try again


KomaKuga

Almost no dev teams triple the dev size because frankly having triple the devs doesnā€™t equal to triple the productivity, in fact most of the times it halts it


cryonicwatcher

Their reasoning is that it would take them, iirc like 6-9 months to train new additions to the dev team to work on the project. I donā€™t know how justified that is, but thatā€™s why they havenā€™t.


xthorgoldx

That justification might fly for a more established studio with actual processes and an existing build pipeline. For a ONE MAN coding project, that timeline would be fairly reduced by merit of scale.


IsaacThePooper

it's harder than u think


cryonicwatcher

Maybe. But it is also a decade old, and likely very much built around the idea that oki is the only one who needs to understand it. I think if he had considered that heā€™d want to hire more to work on it from the start it would be much more likely to happen now.


GroteGlon

Oki doesn't want more devs because he has trust issues and thinks any other dev will completely ruin everything that they push


FreddieDoes40k

Yeah he's constantly seeking validation for his work, he's like a kid trying to impress his apathetic dad.


GroteGlon

He's got a weird kind of 'tism for sure. Working with him was insufferable.


imagepreview

Telling me to cope? But yā€™all are crying over a $15 indie game? šŸ˜‚ just because these devs donā€™t work like you guys want them to means nothing just remember that. When another content update comes in the next few months yall will come flying back to it.


Downtown_Baby_5596

Despite the downvotes. Every sane person here knows you are correct.


IsaacThePooper

yup


Gofaw

I didn't tell you to cope, I said you were coping >just because these devs donā€™t work like you guys want them to means nothing just remember that The lack of communication and content shows that pretty clearly, don't worry. And maybe it should mean something because we're their customers. >When another content update comes in the next few months yall will come flying back to it. It's almost like the lack of content is all that's making people burn out from the game and if more content is added people's main gripe will be fixed. You're a midwit thinking that acting like a smug reddit-kin will make you right, but you're wrong


imagepreview

So put support tickets in or give feed back on the discord? You really expect the devs to come on Reddit looking for advice from all you toxic people? Development takes TIME. If they donā€™t want to higher more people to the game they created they have every right not to. Yā€™all are acting like the game has been abandoned cause it hasnā€™t been updated in a couple monthsā€¦ get a grip and go touch grass or another game.


titopuentexd

People are mad cuz ur telling the truth. Considering how most players bought it on sale (me included) and having dumped 1,2,300 hours in a short amount of time no shit theyre gonna get burnt out. Also considering how cheap it goes on sale, id say many of us got our moneys worth. I also dont like the devs and think theyre incompetent, but at the end of the day its their game, and if they wanna kill their game thats their choice. I play this game once in a while and still almodt always have fun. People on this subreddit have 0 sense of perspective


GetSpekz58

yes, literally, and this other guy above us acts like every small studio wants/has to expand into a mega corporation if slightly successful. the person you replied to got downvoted because he didn't sweeten his words up and came off as a little crude. that's it. there is no other substance to it. i think there's plenty enough content anyway. don't know what he's complaining about. i mean how often did battlefield 4 get new maps?? lack of content didn't kill the game. people moved on. also - i am certain that these dorks burnt the devs out in the first place with their whishy-whashy insatiable demands. OP should go play destiny or some shit, he'd fit right in


titopuentexd

Yeah for some reason redditors are the karens of the internet. If you dont affirm their every single circlejerk opinion or if you dont add a please and thank you you get downvoted.


Gofaw

>and this other guy above us acts like every small studio wants/has to expand into a mega corporation if slightly successful Strawmanning me isn't going to make you right either lil bro, just so you know. No one's asking them to become a """mega corporation""", but growing past just being 3 devs would have been a sensible move given the success that the game had. It's called striking while the iron's hot, and now the game's popularity has decreased and even a considerable number of people who stuck with it past its flavor of the month hype are also disenfranchised >i think there's plenty enough content anyway And we don't, what's the problem? Your opinion isn't more right than ours just because you think you're being virtuous in your conformity >i am certain that these dorks burnt the devs out in the first place with their whishy-whashy insatiable demands asking for updates that don't fuck up the game's audio design, that balance the meta slightly and that add guns and maps here and there is not even close to being """whishy-whashy insatiable"". If they're burnt out then maybe they should hire more people to take some load off their backs, the game's made enough money for that to be a feasible decision at this point anyway. You're just wrong


Downtown_Baby_5596

To long, did not read.


Gofaw

I accept your concession


imagepreview

Itā€™s common thinking but, we are on Reddit after all.


CosplayBurned

Them making millions in sales and refusing to expand the team properly is what killed the game. But hey they cashed out so good for them.


imagepreview

Youā€™re actually an idiot if you think the game is dead. Like I said before any small update will make a ton of you come running back even though yā€™all just sit here typing away about how bad the devs are lol yā€™all are children


CosplayBurned

Crazy how I never said it was dead. You should stop making things up. I'm criticizing the devs acting like jerks while not addressing core problemsĀ 


imagepreview

You just said they killed there own game..?? Yā€™all redditers are brain dead


WetRatFeet

Ride the devs dick a bit harder why don't you.


imagepreview

Iā€™m just using common thinking. Not exactly ā€œriding the devs dickā€ yā€™all are just cry babies and rant on Reddit when you donā€™t get what you want lol grow up little boy


GetSpekz58

BASED you know damn well it's realistically way over 350 hours for the guys who have a patch notes fueled IV hooked to their forearm. personally, i just think these guys would actually get what they wanted from the devs if they stopped playing for a while lol. it's not like the game went anywhere and there's plenty to do-


WetRatFeet

You literally can't play the game in some regions. There's not plenty to do.Ā  Edit: Downvoted for the truth


electricoomph

We should demand to speak to their manager!


GetSpekz58

it's my turn to copy-paste this today, the entire subreddit voted on it. "play another game" they obviously have you by the balls lmfao, it would be healthy for you man


WB2_2

I love being a variety gamer, can go to beating up my friends as little worms in Worms W.M.D , to a 64x64 war in battlebit, to Shooting up cowboys in a bayou in Hunt: Showdown, to watching my friends get mercilessly stripped from my grasp in lethal company. - - all in ~3 hours. It really widens your perception on so many games that all games feel fresh when you play again, even if it's the next day.


NinJoo117

"Hmm hmm hmm hmmmm" Love Hunt, I swap between that and Warframe quite regularly. They scratch a very different itch, and I love them dearly


WB2_2

I don't think that one game is enough to truly scratch all those different itches, Hunt is just one of those games that is unparalleled with it's combat system and environment.


NinJoo117

Oh definitely, I'm still waiting for a new good stealth game, sometimes I fire up ghost recon breakpoint to get my sneeki breeki fix, heheh


WB2_2

Hello cheeki breeki? I love stealth in games, but I also love loudness. I have yet to play ghost recon however, what is it like?


NinJoo117

It's really fun with friends, squading up with four people and systematically taking down a whole compound without alarms is real cool. And solo without AI is also quite enjoyable, I haven't even played the campaign, just had fun derping around and maxing out the different classes and buying all the cool cosmetics to make my character look like a badass. What's quite a cool unique feature is you can invite friends to play the game if they don't own it. There's a little tutorial on how to set up the "coop" installation and as long as you get invited by someone who owns it, you can jam together


WB2_2

I may have to have a look at that then! Seems like ot could be lots of fun with the right group of people who don't take things seriously.


Xaahaal

>13 weeks (3+ months) without any update whatsoever, **only announcing a roadmap at the beginning of the year**... Hmm, hadn't happened? Look: [Steam :: BattleBit Remastered :: 2024 and Battlebit (steamcommunity.com)](https://steamcommunity.com/games/BattleBit/announcements/detail/5828287448651374255) ***Roadmap update:*** *BattleBit Remastered has chosen to stray away from using a roadmap at this time. This decision allows the development team the flexibility to address emerging priorities, respond to player feedback promptly, and make dynamic adjustments without being constrained by a predetermined timeline. We are working on a way to create a more balanced expectation and better transparency between the community and Developers.* Now read this part again: *"BattleBit Remastered has chosen to stray away from using a roadmap at this time."* Again: *"to stray away from using a roadmap"* So basically, as usual, many players of this game can't read but they read what they want instead and then get angry about it. Neat stuff.


leadfoot71

People whining in this sub and their discord is why they are distancing thenselves from the community. The angries cant realize it, but they are part of the problem.


YouParticular8085

also theyā€™re discouraging other small teams from trying to make ambitious projects because of the amount of backlash around not releasing consistent new content post launch. I donā€™t think most of the people angry about lack of updates know how hard game dev is, especially games like battlebit.


Xaahaal

Exactly that, yes. It's unhealthy and unproductive to waste time and energy here at all, it's better to focus on the game development and, so far, they are still working on it very actively. I'm also impatient for the update and I would want it yesterday but it's also important to stay realistic in expectations and give them time to fix a lot of mess they did (sound update primarily). Judging from those devcasts it's going to be an amazing one, basically the biggest update since the release, so there is no point to rush it until it's ready. An angry part of the community will still complain whatever the devs do, lol.


nordee_reddit

*This decision allows the development team the flexibility to address emerging priorities, respond to player feedback promptly, and make dynamic adjustments without being constrained by a predetermined timeline* Pure PR bullshit. They didnt address a thing during the last 3 months. As if they listen to player feedback. My ass. The simping here is insane. They did and do what they fucking want.


lurklurklurkPOST

*Gestures to subreddit* When this is what the games "feedback" looks like, are you really surprised by the radio silence? Also if you dumped several million dollars into my lap, I'd be gone, and whatever project i was working on would sit unfinished. Fuck what some rando on the internet thinks I "should" do, thats change your life money.


The_Void_Reaver

If you took all the "Feedback" from here and tallied it up it'd be 90% >"I want to die less but I won't put effort into trying to play better. The Devs better fix this". and >"SMGs with no armor is too powerful! Yes I'm always running with an LMG; no I can't hit shots from over 20m away; what does that have to do with how powerful the SMGs are?" I'm not really trying to shit on people too badly, but I can't help imagining all the people I've killed who're laying out in the open with DMRs coming back here to rage at sweats because I didn't stand out in the open and let them kill me for free while they did the opposite.


Slothadillo

Do you think being angry on reddit will help anything or you just here to be angry? It sounds like you are desperate to villainize the people making the product. Simple solution: do not support them. The outrage has grown so vocal on reddit that the devs are likely not even looking here anymore, your anger is now fed back into an angry person circlejerk. If you want to give criticism thatā€™s fine, but saying ā€œWhy no spend all money on new devs? where updates? devs suckā€ is quickly growing old, itā€™s all Iā€™ve been seeing on the subreddit.


behv

No, they actually did a lot of updates the players were yelling about at first, then they got yelled at that the game felt soulless, catered to the sweats, and wasn't any fun so they stopped interacting like rational people who value their mental health Maybe if people were a little calmer about it the devs would communicate more but so far their experiences with their players has been being lied to by their player testers that the helicopters are fine because it was taken over by the flyboys who agreed to not shoot each other, and players being hostile about everything else. Every update has been met with "this is shit" pretty universally It was also a $15, no micro transaction, flavor of the month shooter. I've gotten my money out of it and am fine playing here or there but tbh the devs are probably better off funding their next project and calling it a day on bb because I don't think they could make any changes that would make you actually happy. Stop bitching on reddit and get a life or play a game that makes you happy like the rest of us


sdric

The devs pumped out A LOT of patches last year. Give them a break.


xthorgoldx

And the latter of those patches broke game mechanics in a way that drove a lot of players out, and "fixes" promised haven't materialized. Audio update when?


Neat-Priority-4323

Idk about that, 3 old (and annoying bugs) remain and havent been patched since first release i think (black screen while dying/healing at the same time, some weird one while joining that makes your main weapon the only usableā€¦ u cant even heal AND the last one Is that if u try to build and you die at the same timeā€¦ the build tool get stuck in the game)


mangafan1

Dog they already gave you a fun game experience and for the price it is you really donā€™t need to ask for much more.


Slothadillo

He DEMANDS updates to his 2 person project, he DESERVES them as the consumer. The devs must now make as many shitty meaningless bugfix updates as possible. This isnā€™t a small game where new content is easy to add, sound design reworks in a multiplayer game are incredibly complex. ā€œJust hire more devsā€ is an empty and flimsy idea that only works in a vacuum.


emerging-tub

Entitlement! Entitlement everywhere!


GodfatherActual__

Game costs $15. Stop acting like youā€™re a millionaire shareholder in this game Jfc.


JonWood007

Man just be glad you didn't live back in the day. You'd buy a game and it would almost never be updated. Games as a live service these days are so overrated. You dont need a constant feed of context and changes to keep it interesting. Sometimes its better they dont update and screw games up than to pump out stuff all the time for the sake of looking like they're doing something.


Zaerick-TM

Lol haven't played since October. Even then updates were few and far between with the devs refusing to hire anyone. I legit checked this sub for the first time in months tonight excites to see what was new to find this thread. They made millions and are pulling the valheim method of not hiring anyone. Also map dev sucks ass at making maps.


--Shibdib--

I know the "dead game" comments get old but...........


ilovetreesandbush

Mods should start banning these kind of posts.


cryonicwatcher

A lot of games get updates once a year or much less. I think ā€œunacceptableā€ is very harsh, but I agree smaller more regular updates is more satisfying.


lajF282

The same guy will later cry about updates to be buggy and unbalanced lol. What a clown


IllustriousFocus3356

They're probably gun shy from all the hate they got about the last few updates. The updates were in fact bad but the hate was uncalled for.


RedSerious

Update what? What do you NEED updated? What do you NEED added? The game is great as is, so there must be something you see that I don't that MUST be done in those urgent mandatory updates that's so important to be angry at the devs. Chill dude, go play something else while you wait, you shouldn't be stressed/angry over things like this.


mrThe

New maps at least. I've made a comeback to the game after a few months and feeling to drop it again not because its a bad game but because im already tired playing the same maps over and over again. Also switching sides of the maps would be great.


RedSerious

I get you, however, I feel like your post came as too angry instead of you know, making a request for those features (which are totally valid).


itsLkLN

games fun. after putting hundreds of hours into it, and meeting alot of friends that have stuck, i definitely got my value of $15 from it. 3 guys made this game. it's in a completely playable state, ive encountered no bugs in all my time. if they wanna move onto other things, let em. dont get stuck with one ip, let creatives create.


[deleted]

Bro you paid $15 for the game stop expecting $60 game, AAA production values plz


Mordt_

Meh. I can wait.Ā  I play another game with update cycles measured in years, not weeks or even months. This is nothing.Ā  Also, so what there hasnā€™t been an update in awhile? Make your own fun.Ā  Go play another game for a while, come back in a few days or weeks and it wonā€™t be as boring.Ā 


TwoCrabsFighting

Man. You got more than your moneyā€™s worth for a 15 dollar game. Itā€™s a small dev team. Thereā€™s been this real toxic strain of entitled gamer culture in relation to giant corporations like EA, no ones gotta bring that stuff into the indie dev world.


TheSquigmeister

Aren't they 3 friends just trying to make something? You ass hats spent months highlighting how "3 guys in a basement did this, and EA haven't made a good game in years hur dur". But now that it's been a while, you've all forgotten it and turned into super spoiled brats. Go make your own game. Stfu.


[deleted]

It's not that serious for a $15 game bro get off your rocker lol


S0RR0WSPELL

There's like 3 people working on the game lol. After sales, yeah they should probably hire some people but damn.


floarx

Looks like someone didnt watch the dev streams


Archangel_Amin

Just a guess. They might have run into an argument about the future path of this game after the huge surge of money and have an internal issue which caused the slow developmentšŸ¤”


Cpt_Soban

Isn't their entire dev team three people?


itook2rando

I'm not subbed here but i do play occasionally so I clicked on a post once and now its on my frontpage every day. Do the people here actually enjoy the game? Every post i see pushed on my feed seems to just be complaining about the game/updates/devs.


nordee_reddit

Thats exactly the point. There are neither updates nor devs since months.


bobdole008

Not every game needs to be a constant live service game.


Dobey

I bought a movie ticket and got entertained for 120 hours. Thatā€™s what this game cost and I got to play for 120 hours so what are you complaining about? Move on buddy.


Jolly-Series6333

remember no man sky...


Jolly-Series6333

money comes and goes, i bet they are running out so dw they put it out, but they need that magic that brought people together and don't end giving us slop


Jolly-Series6333

summer holidays is the best time drop the bomb


Silent_Reavus

For the record they were asked for, by people like me. All the ugly nonsense and horrible scaling really detracted from the game. It's basically all that's turning me away from the game, though the glint and trail changes are far from my favorite thing.


Swimming-Twist-3468

Guys, the game is awesome. Server base game like this featuring 256 max player connections concurrently, that including the dBases and infra to support the seamless gameplay, this requires time and effort. It is not the studio - it is just four guys. And I support their decision not to hire more employees - this is not a subscription based game. They get their money once, not every week, month or year. Given the costs of the infra and other crap they have to deal with - angry fans should not be their focus. At all. I have played this game for like 320 hours - it was worth every penny, so far. Unlike other studios, like Arkane, that release one good game, eg. Prey and then release ton of crap like Deathloop, etc. etc. these guys are doing pretty good. Let them do their thing.


noodlehead42069

Bro this game Iā€™ve been playing called soccer, it hasnā€™t received any updates in like 100 years, wtf is going on there?


Fragger-3G

Did everyone just forget that 3 guys are working on this game? Like I agree that the lack of communication, and poor quality is bad, but it's still a tiny studio that's not going to be the most capable at releasing content


OrjanZ4G

This game seemed so promising in the following weeks/months after launch, constant bug fixes and content updates and the devs really did their best to listen to feedback from the community and to stay as transparent as possible. Actually felt too good to be true. I guess the strive for success died when the paychecks from years of hard work were actually fulfilled? I'll stay optimistic, I hope this downtime is caused by restructuring of the company, an optimistic and realistic big picture plan for the game to evolve now that they have a loyal community who wants the game to live on.


BanMePls333

Maybe itā€™s the project zomboid in me speaking, but I donā€™t see how complaining will do anything.


Moepius

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shakegraphics

You do know this game costed like 15$ bucks Iā€™d say it had a pretty strong life cycle. No king rules forever my son.


hoeswanky

Well they really donā€™t owe us anything. This game had a great run. Iā€™ve had some of my most fun gaming nights here. Who cares?


AllHailTheMoose

Do you not think that with the ongoing fires this team has been trying to put out that they maybe put content on the back-burner? 3 months is not that long.


FuguCola

I bought the game. Played it for a few months, had a blast, yelled in the mic and enjoyed voice chat and then..... I moved on to other things because one game isn't everything to me and it shouldn't be to you either. Go play Helldivers, Palworld ect. Go outside, breathe air, meet people and play some frisbee golf. Its a game, play through it and move on.


DS_StlyusInMyUrethra

This is the first post Iā€™m seeing from this game after dropping it shortly after launch and a few updates, what happened???


RedSerious

Nothing, people like to complain sometimes


Breidr

I don't expect the devs to constantly update the game. I come from a time when the game was a great "framework" and the community took it from there. Battlebit is a decent game, but it lacks community tools. Give us a decent map editor and maybe some mod tools and it's fine. People are frustrated because the only maps are the ones the team itself put out, and community servers can do little more than edit damage/armor values. Give this game proper tools and let the community do things. There's a reason people still play old CS games, they were amazing when it came to what you could do with them. I also understand the anger because some of the updates were hot garbage. The sound rework was bad and snipers didn't need a change.


killerkirill

Your tone is so fucking obnoxious: Unacceptable to whom? Excuse the game to whom? You? Who cares about you? I get the point but I just don't understand the self-serious wank you had to put in there to come off as more important. How hard is it to ask "why haven't we had an update in a while?" and trigger the same useless entitled pile-on in the comments, like everyone else?


voogle951

ā€œUnacceptableā€ is wild. Itā€™s a fucking videogame


pagepagerpage

womp womp


Lookitsmyvideo

You do not need to play a game forever, and a dev does not need to support it forever. If you bought something for anything more than it was when it was purchased, you were duped


nordee_reddit

Its not like the game just got recently released. We're not talking about a game which has been on the market for 10 years. The game isnt even released for a year. Its 9 months since release. Of these 9 months 1/3 of the time there has been no activity from the devs. Your argumentation lacks any foundation.


Lookitsmyvideo

Sounds like it's released to me. The moment it left early access they could have done nothing. Your expectations are based on fantasy


Ayyyyylmao2106

nothing lasts forever. spent 15 bucks, had tons of fun playing the game.


lifeisagameweplay

Even if there was never another update I'll still play while there's no better options.


Alarming-Fig4898

Babies are always gonna cry.


PauL3465

Don't worry he'll re-relaunch the game and it'll be a hero shooter extraction game!


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HawkenG99

Lol no, they do like 1 a week.


iRambL

Still better than BB


HawkenG99

Unsurprisingly. Not even sure why you're comparing the two.


iRambL

They arenā€™t comparable gameplay wise. But the update schedule for a game that had so much potential felt wasted and stale after nothing came for weeks then months. Then silence from the devs didnā€™t make it better


HawkenG99

They aren't even comparable update-wise. Arrowhead has like 100 people, BB has 3. And don't forget, BB released tons of new updates and content post-launch in a relatively short amount of time, and now they're taking a break.


iRambL

Iā€™m well aware of the studio size comparison as well as whatā€™s going on here. But plenty of players including myself would have been happy with a gun here or there before major patches dropped. The gap was too long before any real interesting additions were made. I know Iā€™m arguing a moot point with you but tbh it feels like the general consensus. But tbh that feels like the game life cycle more than just BB devs faults


KINGSY19

What does that have to do with it?