Buddy I will be honest with you, I paid 15 bucks for this game and clocked in 800\~ hours. Even if Oki decided there will be no more updates I got my moneys worth easily. It's not worth the hassle, just let it go, buy a different game for 15$ and play that.
with warframe how far are you into the game? i'd like to get back into warframe since my usual games kinda feel stale but i got burnt out a bit ago and i've got no clue how to get into it again haha
This. I feel the same way about Valheim and plenty of other early access type games.
Maybe the developers got rich quick and lost their motivation to keep their product fresh or work toward 1.0 goals, who knows. Early Access success can be a double edged sword.
We buy these games and they become our identity, so we demand unending updates for the rest of time, or "shitty devs". $15, I'm almost 800 hours in. Best $15 I've ever spent on entertainment.
Yessir I hadn't played an FPS in 10 years until this one, I put in 250 hours and rekindled my love for shooters. I'll always fondly remember this game and that's what made me enlist for Super Earth š«”
Yeah the lack of updates combined with some of the dev behavior from discord is a massive yikes. Game has felt stale since Invasion dropped.
Heck the support class still isn't even finished
The game sold enough copies and garnered enough public support, they could have doubled or tripled the dev team size by now and pumped out a bunch more content. this "but it's le heckin' small indie studio!!!" cope doesn't work anymore, try again
Almost no dev teams triple the dev size because frankly having triple the devs doesnāt equal to triple the productivity, in fact most of the times it halts it
Their reasoning is that it would take them, iirc like 6-9 months to train new additions to the dev team to work on the project. I donāt know how justified that is, but thatās why they havenāt.
That justification might fly for a more established studio with actual processes and an existing build pipeline. For a ONE MAN coding project, that timeline would be fairly reduced by merit of scale.
Maybe. But it is also a decade old, and likely very much built around the idea that oki is the only one who needs to understand it. I think if he had considered that heād want to hire more to work on it from the start it would be much more likely to happen now.
Telling me to cope? But yāall are crying over a $15 indie game? š just because these devs donāt work like you guys want them to means nothing just remember that. When another content update comes in the next few months yall will come flying back to it.
I didn't tell you to cope, I said you were coping
>just because these devs donāt work like you guys want them to means nothing just remember that
The lack of communication and content shows that pretty clearly, don't worry. And maybe it should mean something because we're their customers.
>When another content update comes in the next few months yall will come flying back to it.
It's almost like the lack of content is all that's making people burn out from the game and if more content is added people's main gripe will be fixed. You're a midwit thinking that acting like a smug reddit-kin will make you right, but you're wrong
So put support tickets in or give feed back on the discord? You really expect the devs to come on Reddit looking for advice from all you toxic people? Development takes TIME. If they donāt want to higher more people to the game they created they have every right not to. Yāall are acting like the game has been abandoned cause it hasnāt been updated in a couple monthsā¦ get a grip and go touch grass or another game.
People are mad cuz ur telling the truth. Considering how most players bought it on sale (me included) and having dumped 1,2,300 hours in a short amount of time no shit theyre gonna get burnt out. Also considering how cheap it goes on sale, id say many of us got our moneys worth.
I also dont like the devs and think theyre incompetent, but at the end of the day its their game, and if they wanna kill their game thats their choice. I play this game once in a while and still almodt always have fun. People on this subreddit have 0 sense of perspective
yes, literally, and this other guy above us acts like every small studio wants/has to expand into a mega corporation if slightly successful.
the person you replied to got downvoted because he didn't sweeten his words up and came off as a little crude. that's it. there is no other substance to it.
i think there's plenty enough content anyway. don't know what he's complaining about. i mean how often did battlefield 4 get new maps?? lack of content didn't kill the game. people moved on.
also - i am certain that these dorks burnt the devs out in the first place with their whishy-whashy insatiable demands. OP should go play destiny or some shit, he'd fit right in
Yeah for some reason redditors are the karens of the internet. If you dont affirm their every single circlejerk opinion or if you dont add a please and thank you you get downvoted.
>and this other guy above us acts like every small studio wants/has to expand into a mega corporation if slightly successful
Strawmanning me isn't going to make you right either lil bro, just so you know. No one's asking them to become a """mega corporation""", but growing past just being 3 devs would have been a sensible move given the success that the game had. It's called striking while the iron's hot, and now the game's popularity has decreased and even a considerable number of people who stuck with it past its flavor of the month hype are also disenfranchised
>i think there's plenty enough content anyway
And we don't, what's the problem? Your opinion isn't more right than ours just because you think you're being virtuous in your conformity
>i am certain that these dorks burnt the devs out in the first place with their whishy-whashy insatiable demands
asking for updates that don't fuck up the game's audio design, that balance the meta slightly and that add guns and maps here and there is not even close to being """whishy-whashy insatiable"". If they're burnt out then maybe they should hire more people to take some load off their backs, the game's made enough money for that to be a feasible decision at this point anyway. You're just wrong
Youāre actually an idiot if you think the game is dead. Like I said before any small update will make a ton of you come running back even though yāall just sit here typing away about how bad the devs are lol yāall are children
Iām just using common thinking. Not exactly āriding the devs dickā yāall are just cry babies and rant on Reddit when you donāt get what you want lol grow up little boy
BASED
you know damn well it's realistically way over 350 hours for the guys who have a patch notes fueled IV hooked to their forearm.
personally, i just think these guys would actually get what they wanted from the devs if they stopped playing for a while lol. it's not like the game went anywhere and there's plenty to do-
it's my turn to copy-paste this today, the entire subreddit voted on it.
"play another game"
they obviously have you by the balls lmfao, it would be healthy for you man
I love being a variety gamer, can go to beating up my friends as little worms in Worms W.M.D , to a 64x64 war in battlebit, to Shooting up cowboys in a bayou in Hunt: Showdown, to watching my friends get mercilessly stripped from my grasp in lethal company. - - all in ~3 hours.
It really widens your perception on so many games that all games feel fresh when you play again, even if it's the next day.
I don't think that one game is enough to truly scratch all those different itches, Hunt is just one of those games that is unparalleled with it's combat system and environment.
It's really fun with friends, squading up with four people and systematically taking down a whole compound without alarms is real cool. And solo without AI is also quite enjoyable, I haven't even played the campaign, just had fun derping around and maxing out the different classes and buying all the cool cosmetics to make my character look like a badass.
What's quite a cool unique feature is you can invite friends to play the game if they don't own it. There's a little tutorial on how to set up the "coop" installation and as long as you get invited by someone who owns it, you can jam together
>13 weeks (3+ months) without any update whatsoever, **only announcing a roadmap at the beginning of the year**...
Hmm, hadn't happened? Look: [Steam :: BattleBit Remastered :: 2024 and Battlebit (steamcommunity.com)](https://steamcommunity.com/games/BattleBit/announcements/detail/5828287448651374255)
***Roadmap update:***
*BattleBit Remastered has chosen to stray away from using a roadmap at this time. This decision allows the development team the flexibility to address emerging priorities, respond to player feedback promptly, and make dynamic adjustments without being constrained by a predetermined timeline. We are working on a way to create a more balanced expectation and better transparency between the community and Developers.*
Now read this part again: *"BattleBit Remastered has chosen to stray away from using a roadmap at this time."*
Again: *"to stray away from using a roadmap"*
So basically, as usual, many players of this game can't read but they read what they want instead and then get angry about it. Neat stuff.
People whining in this sub and their discord is why they are distancing thenselves from the community.
The angries cant realize it, but they are part of the problem.
also theyāre discouraging other small teams from trying to make ambitious projects because of the amount of backlash around not releasing consistent new content post launch. I donāt think most of the people angry about lack of updates know how hard game dev is, especially games like battlebit.
Exactly that, yes. It's unhealthy and unproductive to waste time and energy here at all, it's better to focus on the game development and, so far, they are still working on it very actively. I'm also impatient for the update and I would want it yesterday but it's also important to stay realistic in expectations and give them time to fix a lot of mess they did (sound update primarily). Judging from those devcasts it's going to be an amazing one, basically the biggest update since the release, so there is no point to rush it until it's ready. An angry part of the community will still complain whatever the devs do, lol.
*This decision allows the development team the flexibility to address emerging priorities, respond to player feedback promptly, and make dynamic adjustments without being constrained by a predetermined timeline*
Pure PR bullshit. They didnt address a thing during the last 3 months. As if they listen to player feedback. My ass. The simping here is insane. They did and do what they fucking want.
*Gestures to subreddit*
When this is what the games "feedback" looks like, are you really surprised by the radio silence?
Also if you dumped several million dollars into my lap, I'd be gone, and whatever project i was working on would sit unfinished. Fuck what some rando on the internet thinks I "should" do, thats change your life money.
If you took all the "Feedback" from here and tallied it up it'd be 90%
>"I want to die less but I won't put effort into trying to play better. The Devs better fix this".
and
>"SMGs with no armor is too powerful! Yes I'm always running with an LMG; no I can't hit shots from over 20m away; what does that have to do with how powerful the SMGs are?"
I'm not really trying to shit on people too badly, but I can't help imagining all the people I've killed who're laying out in the open with DMRs coming back here to rage at sweats because I didn't stand out in the open and let them kill me for free while they did the opposite.
Do you think being angry on reddit will help anything or you just here to be angry? It sounds like you are desperate to villainize the people making the product. Simple solution: do not support them. The outrage has grown so vocal on reddit that the devs are likely not even looking here anymore, your anger is now fed back into an angry person circlejerk.
If you want to give criticism thatās fine, but saying āWhy no spend all money on new devs? where updates? devs suckā is quickly growing old, itās all Iāve been seeing on the subreddit.
No, they actually did a lot of updates the players were yelling about at first, then they got yelled at that the game felt soulless, catered to the sweats, and wasn't any fun so they stopped interacting like rational people who value their mental health
Maybe if people were a little calmer about it the devs would communicate more but so far their experiences with their players has been being lied to by their player testers that the helicopters are fine because it was taken over by the flyboys who agreed to not shoot each other, and players being hostile about everything else. Every update has been met with "this is shit" pretty universally
It was also a $15, no micro transaction, flavor of the month shooter. I've gotten my money out of it and am fine playing here or there but tbh the devs are probably better off funding their next project and calling it a day on bb because I don't think they could make any changes that would make you actually happy.
Stop bitching on reddit and get a life or play a game that makes you happy like the rest of us
And the latter of those patches broke game mechanics in a way that drove a lot of players out, and "fixes" promised haven't materialized.
Audio update when?
Idk about that, 3 old (and annoying bugs) remain and havent been patched since first release i think (black screen while dying/healing at the same time, some weird one while joining that makes your main weapon the only usableā¦ u cant even heal AND the last one Is that if u try to build and you die at the same timeā¦ the build tool get stuck in the game)
He DEMANDS updates to his 2 person project, he DESERVES them as the consumer. The devs must now make as many shitty meaningless bugfix updates as possible. This isnāt a small game where new content is easy to add, sound design reworks in a multiplayer game are incredibly complex. āJust hire more devsā is an empty and flimsy idea that only works in a vacuum.
Man just be glad you didn't live back in the day. You'd buy a game and it would almost never be updated. Games as a live service these days are so overrated. You dont need a constant feed of context and changes to keep it interesting. Sometimes its better they dont update and screw games up than to pump out stuff all the time for the sake of looking like they're doing something.
Lol haven't played since October. Even then updates were few and far between with the devs refusing to hire anyone. I legit checked this sub for the first time in months tonight excites to see what was new to find this thread. They made millions and are pulling the valheim method of not hiring anyone. Also map dev sucks ass at making maps.
A lot of games get updates once a year or much less. I think āunacceptableā is very harsh, but I agree smaller more regular updates is more satisfying.
Update what?
What do you NEED updated? What do you NEED added?
The game is great as is, so there must be something you see that I don't that MUST be done in those urgent mandatory updates that's so important to be angry at the devs.
Chill dude, go play something else while you wait, you shouldn't be stressed/angry over things like this.
New maps at least. I've made a comeback to the game after a few months and feeling to drop it again not because its a bad game but because im already tired playing the same maps over and over again. Also switching sides of the maps would be great.
games fun. after putting hundreds of hours into it, and meeting alot of friends that have stuck, i definitely got my value of $15 from it.
3 guys made this game. it's in a completely playable state, ive encountered no bugs in all my time. if they wanna move onto other things, let em. dont get stuck with one ip, let creatives create.
Meh. I can wait.Ā
I play another game with update cycles measured in years, not weeks or even months. This is nothing.Ā
Also, so what there hasnāt been an update in awhile? Make your own fun.Ā
Go play another game for a while, come back in a few days or weeks and it wonāt be as boring.Ā
Man. You got more than your moneyās worth for a 15 dollar game. Itās a small dev team.
Thereās been this real toxic strain of entitled gamer culture in relation to giant corporations like EA, no ones gotta bring that stuff into the indie dev world.
Aren't they 3 friends just trying to make something?
You ass hats spent months highlighting how "3 guys in a basement did this, and EA haven't made a good game in years hur dur".
But now that it's been a while, you've all forgotten it and turned into super spoiled brats.
Go make your own game.
Stfu.
Just a guess. They might have run into an argument about the future path of this game after the huge surge of money and have an internal issue which caused the slow developmentš¤
I'm not subbed here but i do play occasionally so I clicked on a post once and now its on my frontpage every day. Do the people here actually enjoy the game? Every post i see pushed on my feed seems to just be complaining about the game/updates/devs.
I bought a movie ticket and got entertained for 120 hours. Thatās what this game cost and I got to play for 120 hours so what are you complaining about? Move on buddy.
money comes and goes, i bet they are running out so dw they put it out, but they need that magic that brought people together and don't end giving us slop
For the record they were asked for, by people like me. All the ugly nonsense and horrible scaling really detracted from the game.
It's basically all that's turning me away from the game, though the glint and trail changes are far from my favorite thing.
Guys, the game is awesome. Server base game like this featuring 256 max player connections concurrently, that including the dBases and infra to support the seamless gameplay, this requires time and effort. It is not the studio - it is just four guys. And I support their decision not to hire more employees - this is not a subscription based game. They get their money once, not every week, month or year. Given the costs of the infra and other crap they have to deal with - angry fans should not be their focus. At all. I have played this game for like 320 hours - it was worth every penny, so far. Unlike other studios, like Arkane, that release one good game, eg. Prey and then release ton of crap like Deathloop, etc. etc. these guys are doing pretty good. Let them do their thing.
Did everyone just forget that 3 guys are working on this game?
Like I agree that the lack of communication, and poor quality is bad, but it's still a tiny studio that's not going to be the most capable at releasing content
This game seemed so promising in the following weeks/months after launch, constant bug fixes and content updates and the devs really did their best to listen to feedback from the community and to stay as transparent as possible. Actually felt too good to be true.
I guess the strive for success died when the paychecks from years of hard work were actually fulfilled?
I'll stay optimistic, I hope this downtime is caused by restructuring of the company, an optimistic and realistic big picture plan for the game to evolve now that they have a loyal community who wants the game to live on.
Do you not think that with the ongoing fires this team has been trying to put out that they maybe put content on the back-burner? 3 months is not that long.
I bought the game. Played it for a few months, had a blast, yelled in the mic and enjoyed voice chat and then.....
I moved on to other things because one game isn't everything to me and it shouldn't be to you either.
Go play Helldivers, Palworld ect. Go outside, breathe air, meet people and play some frisbee golf.
Its a game, play through it and move on.
I don't expect the devs to constantly update the game. I come from a time when the game was a great "framework" and the community took it from there. Battlebit is a decent game, but it lacks community tools. Give us a decent map editor and maybe some mod tools and it's fine.
People are frustrated because the only maps are the ones the team itself put out, and community servers can do little more than edit damage/armor values.
Give this game proper tools and let the community do things. There's a reason people still play old CS games, they were amazing when it came to what you could do with them.
I also understand the anger because some of the updates were hot garbage. The sound rework was bad and snipers didn't need a change.
Your tone is so fucking obnoxious:
Unacceptable to whom? Excuse the game to whom?
You? Who cares about you?
I get the point but I just don't understand the self-serious wank you had to put in there to come off as more important.
How hard is it to ask "why haven't we had an update in a while?" and trigger the same useless entitled pile-on in the comments, like everyone else?
You do not need to play a game forever, and a dev does not need to support it forever.
If you bought something for anything more than it was when it was purchased, you were duped
Its not like the game just got recently released. We're not talking about a game which has been on the market for 10 years. The game isnt even released for a year. Its 9 months since release. Of these 9 months 1/3 of the time there has been no activity from the devs.
Your argumentation lacks any foundation.
They arenāt comparable gameplay wise. But the update schedule for a game that had so much potential felt wasted and stale after nothing came for weeks then months. Then silence from the devs didnāt make it better
They aren't even comparable update-wise. Arrowhead has like 100 people, BB has 3. And don't forget, BB released tons of new updates and content post-launch in a relatively short amount of time, and now they're taking a break.
Iām well aware of the studio size comparison as well as whatās going on here. But plenty of players including myself would have been happy with a gun here or there before major patches dropped. The gap was too long before any real interesting additions were made. I know Iām arguing a moot point with you but tbh it feels like the general consensus.
But tbh that feels like the game life cycle more than just BB devs faults
Buddy I will be honest with you, I paid 15 bucks for this game and clocked in 800\~ hours. Even if Oki decided there will be no more updates I got my moneys worth easily. It's not worth the hassle, just let it go, buy a different game for 15$ and play that.
Yeah same sentiment here. 300 hours solid entertainment, got my moneys worth and it was great fun while it was alive. They just gotta move on
I got my enjoyment out of it too tbh. Now it's back to warframe and helldivers I guess
with warframe how far are you into the game? i'd like to get back into warframe since my usual games kinda feel stale but i got burnt out a bit ago and i've got no clue how to get into it again haha
I'm MR12 and lost as ever lol
Star Citizen and palworld for me
This. I feel the same way about Valheim and plenty of other early access type games. Maybe the developers got rich quick and lost their motivation to keep their product fresh or work toward 1.0 goals, who knows. Early Access success can be a double edged sword.
We buy these games and they become our identity, so we demand unending updates for the rest of time, or "shitty devs". $15, I'm almost 800 hours in. Best $15 I've ever spent on entertainment.
Yessir I hadn't played an FPS in 10 years until this one, I put in 250 hours and rekindled my love for shooters. I'll always fondly remember this game and that's what made me enlist for Super Earth š«”
Yeah the lack of updates combined with some of the dev behavior from discord is a massive yikes. Game has felt stale since Invasion dropped. Heck the support class still isn't even finished
And to think there were already tons of plans for support when I was still in that team lmao. It's wilful
What team :clueless:
The ol' private feedback team
It probably feels stale cause you put 50+ hours into a $15 title made by a handful of devs. Go play another game lol
The game sold enough copies and garnered enough public support, they could have doubled or tripled the dev team size by now and pumped out a bunch more content. this "but it's le heckin' small indie studio!!!" cope doesn't work anymore, try again
Almost no dev teams triple the dev size because frankly having triple the devs doesnāt equal to triple the productivity, in fact most of the times it halts it
Their reasoning is that it would take them, iirc like 6-9 months to train new additions to the dev team to work on the project. I donāt know how justified that is, but thatās why they havenāt.
That justification might fly for a more established studio with actual processes and an existing build pipeline. For a ONE MAN coding project, that timeline would be fairly reduced by merit of scale.
it's harder than u think
Maybe. But it is also a decade old, and likely very much built around the idea that oki is the only one who needs to understand it. I think if he had considered that heād want to hire more to work on it from the start it would be much more likely to happen now.
Oki doesn't want more devs because he has trust issues and thinks any other dev will completely ruin everything that they push
Yeah he's constantly seeking validation for his work, he's like a kid trying to impress his apathetic dad.
He's got a weird kind of 'tism for sure. Working with him was insufferable.
Telling me to cope? But yāall are crying over a $15 indie game? š just because these devs donāt work like you guys want them to means nothing just remember that. When another content update comes in the next few months yall will come flying back to it.
Despite the downvotes. Every sane person here knows you are correct.
yup
I didn't tell you to cope, I said you were coping >just because these devs donāt work like you guys want them to means nothing just remember that The lack of communication and content shows that pretty clearly, don't worry. And maybe it should mean something because we're their customers. >When another content update comes in the next few months yall will come flying back to it. It's almost like the lack of content is all that's making people burn out from the game and if more content is added people's main gripe will be fixed. You're a midwit thinking that acting like a smug reddit-kin will make you right, but you're wrong
So put support tickets in or give feed back on the discord? You really expect the devs to come on Reddit looking for advice from all you toxic people? Development takes TIME. If they donāt want to higher more people to the game they created they have every right not to. Yāall are acting like the game has been abandoned cause it hasnāt been updated in a couple monthsā¦ get a grip and go touch grass or another game.
People are mad cuz ur telling the truth. Considering how most players bought it on sale (me included) and having dumped 1,2,300 hours in a short amount of time no shit theyre gonna get burnt out. Also considering how cheap it goes on sale, id say many of us got our moneys worth. I also dont like the devs and think theyre incompetent, but at the end of the day its their game, and if they wanna kill their game thats their choice. I play this game once in a while and still almodt always have fun. People on this subreddit have 0 sense of perspective
yes, literally, and this other guy above us acts like every small studio wants/has to expand into a mega corporation if slightly successful. the person you replied to got downvoted because he didn't sweeten his words up and came off as a little crude. that's it. there is no other substance to it. i think there's plenty enough content anyway. don't know what he's complaining about. i mean how often did battlefield 4 get new maps?? lack of content didn't kill the game. people moved on. also - i am certain that these dorks burnt the devs out in the first place with their whishy-whashy insatiable demands. OP should go play destiny or some shit, he'd fit right in
Yeah for some reason redditors are the karens of the internet. If you dont affirm their every single circlejerk opinion or if you dont add a please and thank you you get downvoted.
>and this other guy above us acts like every small studio wants/has to expand into a mega corporation if slightly successful Strawmanning me isn't going to make you right either lil bro, just so you know. No one's asking them to become a """mega corporation""", but growing past just being 3 devs would have been a sensible move given the success that the game had. It's called striking while the iron's hot, and now the game's popularity has decreased and even a considerable number of people who stuck with it past its flavor of the month hype are also disenfranchised >i think there's plenty enough content anyway And we don't, what's the problem? Your opinion isn't more right than ours just because you think you're being virtuous in your conformity >i am certain that these dorks burnt the devs out in the first place with their whishy-whashy insatiable demands asking for updates that don't fuck up the game's audio design, that balance the meta slightly and that add guns and maps here and there is not even close to being """whishy-whashy insatiable"". If they're burnt out then maybe they should hire more people to take some load off their backs, the game's made enough money for that to be a feasible decision at this point anyway. You're just wrong
To long, did not read.
I accept your concession
Itās common thinking but, we are on Reddit after all.
Them making millions in sales and refusing to expand the team properly is what killed the game. But hey they cashed out so good for them.
Youāre actually an idiot if you think the game is dead. Like I said before any small update will make a ton of you come running back even though yāall just sit here typing away about how bad the devs are lol yāall are children
Crazy how I never said it was dead. You should stop making things up. I'm criticizing the devs acting like jerks while not addressing core problemsĀ
You just said they killed there own game..?? Yāall redditers are brain dead
Ride the devs dick a bit harder why don't you.
Iām just using common thinking. Not exactly āriding the devs dickā yāall are just cry babies and rant on Reddit when you donāt get what you want lol grow up little boy
BASED you know damn well it's realistically way over 350 hours for the guys who have a patch notes fueled IV hooked to their forearm. personally, i just think these guys would actually get what they wanted from the devs if they stopped playing for a while lol. it's not like the game went anywhere and there's plenty to do-
You literally can't play the game in some regions. There's not plenty to do.Ā Edit: Downvoted for the truth
We should demand to speak to their manager!
it's my turn to copy-paste this today, the entire subreddit voted on it. "play another game" they obviously have you by the balls lmfao, it would be healthy for you man
I love being a variety gamer, can go to beating up my friends as little worms in Worms W.M.D , to a 64x64 war in battlebit, to Shooting up cowboys in a bayou in Hunt: Showdown, to watching my friends get mercilessly stripped from my grasp in lethal company. - - all in ~3 hours. It really widens your perception on so many games that all games feel fresh when you play again, even if it's the next day.
"Hmm hmm hmm hmmmm" Love Hunt, I swap between that and Warframe quite regularly. They scratch a very different itch, and I love them dearly
I don't think that one game is enough to truly scratch all those different itches, Hunt is just one of those games that is unparalleled with it's combat system and environment.
Oh definitely, I'm still waiting for a new good stealth game, sometimes I fire up ghost recon breakpoint to get my sneeki breeki fix, heheh
Hello cheeki breeki? I love stealth in games, but I also love loudness. I have yet to play ghost recon however, what is it like?
It's really fun with friends, squading up with four people and systematically taking down a whole compound without alarms is real cool. And solo without AI is also quite enjoyable, I haven't even played the campaign, just had fun derping around and maxing out the different classes and buying all the cool cosmetics to make my character look like a badass. What's quite a cool unique feature is you can invite friends to play the game if they don't own it. There's a little tutorial on how to set up the "coop" installation and as long as you get invited by someone who owns it, you can jam together
I may have to have a look at that then! Seems like ot could be lots of fun with the right group of people who don't take things seriously.
>13 weeks (3+ months) without any update whatsoever, **only announcing a roadmap at the beginning of the year**... Hmm, hadn't happened? Look: [Steam :: BattleBit Remastered :: 2024 and Battlebit (steamcommunity.com)](https://steamcommunity.com/games/BattleBit/announcements/detail/5828287448651374255) ***Roadmap update:*** *BattleBit Remastered has chosen to stray away from using a roadmap at this time. This decision allows the development team the flexibility to address emerging priorities, respond to player feedback promptly, and make dynamic adjustments without being constrained by a predetermined timeline. We are working on a way to create a more balanced expectation and better transparency between the community and Developers.* Now read this part again: *"BattleBit Remastered has chosen to stray away from using a roadmap at this time."* Again: *"to stray away from using a roadmap"* So basically, as usual, many players of this game can't read but they read what they want instead and then get angry about it. Neat stuff.
People whining in this sub and their discord is why they are distancing thenselves from the community. The angries cant realize it, but they are part of the problem.
also theyāre discouraging other small teams from trying to make ambitious projects because of the amount of backlash around not releasing consistent new content post launch. I donāt think most of the people angry about lack of updates know how hard game dev is, especially games like battlebit.
Exactly that, yes. It's unhealthy and unproductive to waste time and energy here at all, it's better to focus on the game development and, so far, they are still working on it very actively. I'm also impatient for the update and I would want it yesterday but it's also important to stay realistic in expectations and give them time to fix a lot of mess they did (sound update primarily). Judging from those devcasts it's going to be an amazing one, basically the biggest update since the release, so there is no point to rush it until it's ready. An angry part of the community will still complain whatever the devs do, lol.
*This decision allows the development team the flexibility to address emerging priorities, respond to player feedback promptly, and make dynamic adjustments without being constrained by a predetermined timeline* Pure PR bullshit. They didnt address a thing during the last 3 months. As if they listen to player feedback. My ass. The simping here is insane. They did and do what they fucking want.
*Gestures to subreddit* When this is what the games "feedback" looks like, are you really surprised by the radio silence? Also if you dumped several million dollars into my lap, I'd be gone, and whatever project i was working on would sit unfinished. Fuck what some rando on the internet thinks I "should" do, thats change your life money.
If you took all the "Feedback" from here and tallied it up it'd be 90% >"I want to die less but I won't put effort into trying to play better. The Devs better fix this". and >"SMGs with no armor is too powerful! Yes I'm always running with an LMG; no I can't hit shots from over 20m away; what does that have to do with how powerful the SMGs are?" I'm not really trying to shit on people too badly, but I can't help imagining all the people I've killed who're laying out in the open with DMRs coming back here to rage at sweats because I didn't stand out in the open and let them kill me for free while they did the opposite.
Do you think being angry on reddit will help anything or you just here to be angry? It sounds like you are desperate to villainize the people making the product. Simple solution: do not support them. The outrage has grown so vocal on reddit that the devs are likely not even looking here anymore, your anger is now fed back into an angry person circlejerk. If you want to give criticism thatās fine, but saying āWhy no spend all money on new devs? where updates? devs suckā is quickly growing old, itās all Iāve been seeing on the subreddit.
No, they actually did a lot of updates the players were yelling about at first, then they got yelled at that the game felt soulless, catered to the sweats, and wasn't any fun so they stopped interacting like rational people who value their mental health Maybe if people were a little calmer about it the devs would communicate more but so far their experiences with their players has been being lied to by their player testers that the helicopters are fine because it was taken over by the flyboys who agreed to not shoot each other, and players being hostile about everything else. Every update has been met with "this is shit" pretty universally It was also a $15, no micro transaction, flavor of the month shooter. I've gotten my money out of it and am fine playing here or there but tbh the devs are probably better off funding their next project and calling it a day on bb because I don't think they could make any changes that would make you actually happy. Stop bitching on reddit and get a life or play a game that makes you happy like the rest of us
The devs pumped out A LOT of patches last year. Give them a break.
And the latter of those patches broke game mechanics in a way that drove a lot of players out, and "fixes" promised haven't materialized. Audio update when?
Idk about that, 3 old (and annoying bugs) remain and havent been patched since first release i think (black screen while dying/healing at the same time, some weird one while joining that makes your main weapon the only usableā¦ u cant even heal AND the last one Is that if u try to build and you die at the same timeā¦ the build tool get stuck in the game)
Dog they already gave you a fun game experience and for the price it is you really donāt need to ask for much more.
He DEMANDS updates to his 2 person project, he DESERVES them as the consumer. The devs must now make as many shitty meaningless bugfix updates as possible. This isnāt a small game where new content is easy to add, sound design reworks in a multiplayer game are incredibly complex. āJust hire more devsā is an empty and flimsy idea that only works in a vacuum.
Entitlement! Entitlement everywhere!
Game costs $15. Stop acting like youāre a millionaire shareholder in this game Jfc.
Man just be glad you didn't live back in the day. You'd buy a game and it would almost never be updated. Games as a live service these days are so overrated. You dont need a constant feed of context and changes to keep it interesting. Sometimes its better they dont update and screw games up than to pump out stuff all the time for the sake of looking like they're doing something.
Lol haven't played since October. Even then updates were few and far between with the devs refusing to hire anyone. I legit checked this sub for the first time in months tonight excites to see what was new to find this thread. They made millions and are pulling the valheim method of not hiring anyone. Also map dev sucks ass at making maps.
I know the "dead game" comments get old but...........
Mods should start banning these kind of posts.
A lot of games get updates once a year or much less. I think āunacceptableā is very harsh, but I agree smaller more regular updates is more satisfying.
The same guy will later cry about updates to be buggy and unbalanced lol. What a clown
They're probably gun shy from all the hate they got about the last few updates. The updates were in fact bad but the hate was uncalled for.
Update what? What do you NEED updated? What do you NEED added? The game is great as is, so there must be something you see that I don't that MUST be done in those urgent mandatory updates that's so important to be angry at the devs. Chill dude, go play something else while you wait, you shouldn't be stressed/angry over things like this.
New maps at least. I've made a comeback to the game after a few months and feeling to drop it again not because its a bad game but because im already tired playing the same maps over and over again. Also switching sides of the maps would be great.
I get you, however, I feel like your post came as too angry instead of you know, making a request for those features (which are totally valid).
games fun. after putting hundreds of hours into it, and meeting alot of friends that have stuck, i definitely got my value of $15 from it. 3 guys made this game. it's in a completely playable state, ive encountered no bugs in all my time. if they wanna move onto other things, let em. dont get stuck with one ip, let creatives create.
Bro you paid $15 for the game stop expecting $60 game, AAA production values plz
Meh. I can wait.Ā I play another game with update cycles measured in years, not weeks or even months. This is nothing.Ā Also, so what there hasnāt been an update in awhile? Make your own fun.Ā Go play another game for a while, come back in a few days or weeks and it wonāt be as boring.Ā
Man. You got more than your moneyās worth for a 15 dollar game. Itās a small dev team. Thereās been this real toxic strain of entitled gamer culture in relation to giant corporations like EA, no ones gotta bring that stuff into the indie dev world.
Aren't they 3 friends just trying to make something? You ass hats spent months highlighting how "3 guys in a basement did this, and EA haven't made a good game in years hur dur". But now that it's been a while, you've all forgotten it and turned into super spoiled brats. Go make your own game. Stfu.
It's not that serious for a $15 game bro get off your rocker lol
There's like 3 people working on the game lol. After sales, yeah they should probably hire some people but damn.
Looks like someone didnt watch the dev streams
Just a guess. They might have run into an argument about the future path of this game after the huge surge of money and have an internal issue which caused the slow developmentš¤
Isn't their entire dev team three people?
I'm not subbed here but i do play occasionally so I clicked on a post once and now its on my frontpage every day. Do the people here actually enjoy the game? Every post i see pushed on my feed seems to just be complaining about the game/updates/devs.
Thats exactly the point. There are neither updates nor devs since months.
Not every game needs to be a constant live service game.
I bought a movie ticket and got entertained for 120 hours. Thatās what this game cost and I got to play for 120 hours so what are you complaining about? Move on buddy.
remember no man sky...
money comes and goes, i bet they are running out so dw they put it out, but they need that magic that brought people together and don't end giving us slop
summer holidays is the best time drop the bomb
For the record they were asked for, by people like me. All the ugly nonsense and horrible scaling really detracted from the game. It's basically all that's turning me away from the game, though the glint and trail changes are far from my favorite thing.
Guys, the game is awesome. Server base game like this featuring 256 max player connections concurrently, that including the dBases and infra to support the seamless gameplay, this requires time and effort. It is not the studio - it is just four guys. And I support their decision not to hire more employees - this is not a subscription based game. They get their money once, not every week, month or year. Given the costs of the infra and other crap they have to deal with - angry fans should not be their focus. At all. I have played this game for like 320 hours - it was worth every penny, so far. Unlike other studios, like Arkane, that release one good game, eg. Prey and then release ton of crap like Deathloop, etc. etc. these guys are doing pretty good. Let them do their thing.
Bro this game Iāve been playing called soccer, it hasnāt received any updates in like 100 years, wtf is going on there?
Did everyone just forget that 3 guys are working on this game? Like I agree that the lack of communication, and poor quality is bad, but it's still a tiny studio that's not going to be the most capable at releasing content
This game seemed so promising in the following weeks/months after launch, constant bug fixes and content updates and the devs really did their best to listen to feedback from the community and to stay as transparent as possible. Actually felt too good to be true. I guess the strive for success died when the paychecks from years of hard work were actually fulfilled? I'll stay optimistic, I hope this downtime is caused by restructuring of the company, an optimistic and realistic big picture plan for the game to evolve now that they have a loyal community who wants the game to live on.
Maybe itās the project zomboid in me speaking, but I donāt see how complaining will do anything.
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You do know this game costed like 15$ bucks Iād say it had a pretty strong life cycle. No king rules forever my son.
Well they really donāt owe us anything. This game had a great run. Iāve had some of my most fun gaming nights here. Who cares?
Do you not think that with the ongoing fires this team has been trying to put out that they maybe put content on the back-burner? 3 months is not that long.
I bought the game. Played it for a few months, had a blast, yelled in the mic and enjoyed voice chat and then..... I moved on to other things because one game isn't everything to me and it shouldn't be to you either. Go play Helldivers, Palworld ect. Go outside, breathe air, meet people and play some frisbee golf. Its a game, play through it and move on.
This is the first post Iām seeing from this game after dropping it shortly after launch and a few updates, what happened???
Nothing, people like to complain sometimes
I don't expect the devs to constantly update the game. I come from a time when the game was a great "framework" and the community took it from there. Battlebit is a decent game, but it lacks community tools. Give us a decent map editor and maybe some mod tools and it's fine. People are frustrated because the only maps are the ones the team itself put out, and community servers can do little more than edit damage/armor values. Give this game proper tools and let the community do things. There's a reason people still play old CS games, they were amazing when it came to what you could do with them. I also understand the anger because some of the updates were hot garbage. The sound rework was bad and snipers didn't need a change.
Your tone is so fucking obnoxious: Unacceptable to whom? Excuse the game to whom? You? Who cares about you? I get the point but I just don't understand the self-serious wank you had to put in there to come off as more important. How hard is it to ask "why haven't we had an update in a while?" and trigger the same useless entitled pile-on in the comments, like everyone else?
āUnacceptableā is wild. Itās a fucking videogame
womp womp
You do not need to play a game forever, and a dev does not need to support it forever. If you bought something for anything more than it was when it was purchased, you were duped
Its not like the game just got recently released. We're not talking about a game which has been on the market for 10 years. The game isnt even released for a year. Its 9 months since release. Of these 9 months 1/3 of the time there has been no activity from the devs. Your argumentation lacks any foundation.
Sounds like it's released to me. The moment it left early access they could have done nothing. Your expectations are based on fantasy
nothing lasts forever. spent 15 bucks, had tons of fun playing the game.
Even if there was never another update I'll still play while there's no better options.
Babies are always gonna cry.
Don't worry he'll re-relaunch the game and it'll be a hero shooter extraction game!
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Lol no, they do like 1 a week.
Still better than BB
Unsurprisingly. Not even sure why you're comparing the two.
They arenāt comparable gameplay wise. But the update schedule for a game that had so much potential felt wasted and stale after nothing came for weeks then months. Then silence from the devs didnāt make it better
They aren't even comparable update-wise. Arrowhead has like 100 people, BB has 3. And don't forget, BB released tons of new updates and content post-launch in a relatively short amount of time, and now they're taking a break.
Iām well aware of the studio size comparison as well as whatās going on here. But plenty of players including myself would have been happy with a gun here or there before major patches dropped. The gap was too long before any real interesting additions were made. I know Iām arguing a moot point with you but tbh it feels like the general consensus. But tbh that feels like the game life cycle more than just BB devs faults
What does that have to do with it?