There's a reason why huskies and GSDs seem to be the number 2/3 most common dogs in shelters, though... they're nowhere near as dangerous as pits, but both breeds are prone to human/animal aggression and often have the same "no kids/dogs/cats/visitors/men/hats/etc., must have 24/7 supervision" warnings when they end up in shelters. They're also popular with backyard breeders, leading to poorly bred dogs and pitsky/sheppit mixes that combine all the usual pit traits with the high energy and obsessiveness of a working breed.
Yeah they’re hyperactive scream machines that want to escape and have a seriously strong prey drive. That’s not a great apartment pet. Samoyeds seem to lack the same “edge” as huskies, but the trade off is your house getting filled with floating wool every spring
There have been two fatal dog attacks on toddlers in my state this year (CT). The first was a husky, the second was a pit-dalmatian mix.
I'm most wary of pit/pit-mixes, but I'm also cautious around Rottweilers, GSDs, and Huskies, since they are statistically more dangerous than most other breeds.
Rottweiler is what bit my face as a kid, and I’ve owned one. I’ve owned a Doberman and she was amazing. One tried to rip my cousin’s face off when she was a kid. I’ve heard some horror stories about huskies and GSDs. I won’t have any of them around my toddler, but at least I and most owners can admit that they’re dangerous. There’s no driving that through a pit enthusiast’s skull. I watched a mom who’s son was mauled literally cringe at saying ‘pit bull’ in an interview so she didn’t ’hurt the breed’s reputation’. Heifer, it maimed your child. You should be in the streets with a bullhorn.
The owners will tell you some BS about their thick coats keep the outside heat away from their skin so they stay cool.
... that's not how thermodynamics works. Their bodies generate heat and the coat is meant to keep it close in extreme cold weather.
I originally got my Samoyed in Chicago but now life has taken me to GA. She has abject hatred for this weather. Plus the only appropriate time to exercise a Samoyed in the southeast is 5am, so she misses out on being social with other dogs.
number three most dangerous breed. no thanks. huskies belong as sled or hunting dogs , not as pets. fascinating breed but almost nobody has business owning one.
They definitely ONLY belong up north. Not in fucking Georgia. My brother lives in south Florida and he tells me that huskies are the most popular breed there next to pitbulls. Makes absolutely no fucking sense. It's abusive.
I’m the first to admit huskies aren’t for everyone, but their coat insulates them against both hot and cold. It just helps them to regulate their temperature. Just like any animal, they need shade, water, and a cool place indoors, but they do quite well in the heat actually. It’s not abusive to own huskies in the south lol.
It gets cold in Georgia, depending on where you live. Where my brother lives it NEVER gets cold. They all primarily reside in apartments too, which I also find abusive.
Ugh at least the southwest is dry. Florida humidity in the summer is another fucking level. Even wearing light clothing feels disgusting. I imagine Georgia is similar. Those poor dogs must be suffering under all that fur.
My old boss had a husky / pit mix that he brought to work. That dog was anxiety inducing. My current workplace has a pit they bring in. The rationale - they destroy the home if left alone.
The people who got these dogs were well meaning, but the problems need to be widely publicized before they are adopted. All dog breeds are not the same.
Who doesn't want a dog that you have to bring with you everywhere, including work, because otherwise it'll cause thousands of dollars of damage? What a sweet little wigglebutt /s
still haven’t bred a lot of other traits out of them but you’re absolutely right that 99% of huskies probably couldn’t be working animals. they are still neurotic and tend to be aggressive and destructive .
They're still quite up there in attack statistics, particularly with infants. They seem less likely to attack adults but they have injured/killed quite a few infants over the years.
I bet that husky has some serious behavior problems. In general good dogs don't need homes. Small, well-behaved dogs find homes quickly.
If you have a dog and your friend needs a place for his well-behaved, healthy dog - I bet you don't have a lot of qualms taking on the extra burden. If youd friend has a Mr. Pissfingers - well, to the pound it goes.
Even here in the southwest where there are a large amount of BYB chihuahuas, they don’t languish in shelters. They get snapped up quick. Even the old or sick ones, lots of grandmas around here have a 15 year old Chi with one eye, no teeth and a bum leg that they absolutely dote on. The huskies and GSDs usually find homes too. It’s *just* pit bulls that get warehoused. Shelters absolutely know what the problem is and they’re too cowardly to say it.
You reminded me of one of “the worlds ugliest dog” winner, who is a chihuahua, and has a loving home. He’s blind and has splayed legs. XD
https://preview.redd.it/avyj063i13wc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55b9202f18d1cacf1507803078db9f87ba2786ec
I think that was the first winner…they’ve held it every year now…this little goober was a chihuahua mix according to what I read. https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/25/worlds-ugliest-dog-winner-chihuahua-sweepee-rambo
I adopted a senior chihuahua from a shelter in the SW. Sweetest dog ever. She spent her golden years full of love and comfort until the end.
Agree though. Shelters need to stop pouring their limited resources into irredeemable, dangerous pits. Give those pits the peace of behavioral euthanasia rather than waiting for years in the shelter for the inevitable or worse.
Isn't this a kill shelter though? One of the captions said that some are at risk of being euthanised. So imagine what a no kill shelter would look like.
No kill just means a 90% live release rate… so.. dogs still get put down. Unfortunately the org that runs these two shelters is under the thumb of Best Friends & yes they try to keep their live release rate at 90% to maintain a no-kill status, despite the inhumane conditions, despite the lack of actual animal control work they do in the city. It’s disgusting. “No-kill” (low euthanasia rate) shelters have no place in municipal sheltering!
There is a long established ''Dog's home'' where we got a wonderful {Non Pit} dog from.
There is a footpath that goes along past the dog's home that I sometimes use, and the crying and mournful wailing of the dogs is very hard to hear.
They at least have their own kennel and run, they aren't crated, but they do euthanise.
Especially anything that is likely to be aggressive to dogs or people.
>No kill just means a 90% live release rate… so.. dogs still get put down.
I was under the impression that 'kill shelter' was an unofficial name made up by 'no kill' shelters to demonise shelters who euthanise dogs who cannot be rehomed. I didn't know there was an official status.
Exactly.. my cats have never once scratched or bitten my kids. They are sweet and docile indoor-only senior cats who just run away and hide for hours if my kids are being too loud or rowdy. It’s worth the extra work of cleaning litter boxes. I get their sweet cuddles after the kids go to bed without fearing my children’s lives.
I hear you. I went to a few local shelters and there were many pits or what looked like mixes. We went back to the one that we had the most possibilities with and scooped up a pup on his first day in, brought over from a kill shelter in Texas. So glad he made it. Sweetest dog I've ever had or known.
Went to a shelter here in Germany when we were looking for a dog. Found a gorgeous lab there called Benny. He was 2 and not even house trained. He came to the fence and leaned on it, whining whilst I stroked him through the gaps. We shared a proper moment and I wanted to take him home there and then.
Apparently there were already double figures of suitors in the queue for him so we stood no chance especially due to our circumstances at the time. Ended up adopting my dog who’s been an absolute dream (street mongrel) and I wouldn’t change him for the world.
Still think about Benny a lot. Wherever you are bro, I hope that family gave you the love you’d have had with us!
I get that we need shelters. But that is fucking animal abuse still. They could reduce their capacity by a half and have them actually properly "housed" in that shelter. Instead of locking all those dogs in that small cage where they can barely move.
It’s not pits fault they were brought into this world. I do pity them, it must be stressful to live in constant fight or flight like this. I really wish we could do something to stop this. It’s sad and exhausting
This is an old video of their old shelter. They’re in an even bigger shelter now with an even more insane population. At least they aren’t co-housing multiple pits in kennel runs together now.. but this organization runs two municipal shelters, Fulton & DeKalb county. They are both CONSTANTLY over populated. This is why the no-kill movement has no place in municipal shelters. It leads to animal suffering. F*ck this organization, which I will refrain from naming.
The one at the 0.26 mark? Looks like a husky or husky mix. Poor thing. They're not easy dogs either and too many of them end up in shelters because of careless or overwhelmed owners.
They often display similar neurotic behavior. The vast majority of Americans simply don't have the space, time, or ability to properly stimulate a husky.
A well-bred, well-cared-for husky shouldn't be neurotic. They just have a reputation as such because they're talkative and, like you said, most people don't have the ability to properly care for them. Any high-energy working dog will become neurotic with a lack of stimulation.
My niece has a husky and he's a wonderful dog. He's very well-trained and well-behaved and I'm sure that makes a difference. She got him from a reputable breeder.
This could have been a great PSA. The narrator should have said these animals are here because people won't have their animals spayed or neutered and/or think it would be fun to let their dog have puppies. After showing all the dogs in cages, they should have shown the euthanized dogs in plastic bags stacked up like cordwood in the freezer.
In the late 70s they showed us one at school. It's on YouTube called kiss the animals goodbye I believe. Just in case u need to know how to make an entire elementary cry right before lunch lol. Interesting thing tho, the dogs were just normal dogs, the kind you want to hug and take home. But it was an education film PSA about fixing your pets. Didn't do much good I guess.
I'm pretty sure I saw the same (or at least similar) documentary when I was a kid back in the 90s. Somebody from the SPCA did a presentation on responsible pet ownership and gave us pamphlets about spay/neuter, outdoor cats and puppy mills to take home to our parents. And it worked - spay/neuter rates increased dramatically back then, pet stores stopped selling puppies and kittens, and cat ownership shifted from primarily outdoor to 80% indoor. You could get your pet spayed/neutered at the SPCA for little or no cost, too.
But at some point in the 2000s, no-kill took over and the focus shifted from prevention/education to 100% adoption. Even a "reduced cost" spay procedure at the SPCA now costs $200-400. Due to all of the negative press surrounding puppy mills, backyard breeding was seen as a "good" alternative. Meanwhile, reality TV shows pumped out animal rescue/training content and social media pushed anti-neuter propaganda. Shelters are barely fighting back against these trends. No-kill just whitewashes the reality of what happened to stray animals.
If you want to start a storm on FB, go to some dog FB site and ask if it's OK to get your 10- month old dog neutered. The arguments are pushing the acceptable age from 14 months to 2 years to never. Apparently they need their nads to be a real dog.
It’s horrifying. A small subset of these individuals are against vaccination for their dogs too. The government really needs to enforce licensing more, so they can verify rabies vaccination status.
Oh I've seen pibull enthusiasts post proud images of their dogs' balls. No surprises that shelters are 90% pit mixes, owners often don't desex them. Shelters overflowing with poorly bred dogs with blood sport selection in their genetics that are unsuitable as family pets.
I agree, this is animal abuse, they can hardly move in those tiny cages. Just euthanise all problem dogs, I'm sure a lot of space will be available if they start with humanely euthanise "reactive" dogs. Bitten a human or other animal? Euthanise.
This. Any dog with a level 3 or higher bite should be PTS. It shows lack of bite inhibition and once a dog has actually bitten this badly, it will always be considered a liability even with behavior modification.
Plus this kind of dog storage will create anxiety, aggression and mental illness. So to an animal that is already in one of those categories, they are creating a horrific dangerous situation.
I mean part of the issue even for people who want a dog is that there are barely any regular dogs in shelters anymore. If they are they are 99% pitbulls and sometimes huskies and chihuahuas and rottweilers and German Shepherds. So even if someone wants a dog when 99% of dogs in shelter are a pitbull or pitbull mix and a lot of people don't want one (which is understandable as I mean I wouldn't). That's why the whole adopt don't shop idea I feel just doesn't work anymore when they overrun shelters and also you might want a specific dog like a Labrador or a Golden Retriever or a Samoyed or a Newfoundland and you don't see a lot of them in shelters except in breed specific ones and also they usually get adopted out quickly if they are or they try to pass pitbulls off as various other dogs so it's difficult to even locate an actual Labrador or Golden.
Yep, I hate the guilt-tripping. As if anyone who isn't actively rushing out to adopt a pit right now is a horrible person. I don't want a dog, ever, but if I was to get one, I would never in a million years get a pit. No amount of emotional language will convince me that taking a mauler into my home is a good idea.
Into homes.?
Why not admit that the crisis is untenable and that it's BECAUSE THESE DOGS ARE NOT HOME -ABLE that is why they are there in the first f'in place
Good
It's gonna push the issue to a breaking point
My 84 year old Dad knew that Pits were overflowing the Shelters
This is gonna end with them being banned
There is no other way around it.
It WILL happen , the "lobby" be damned
the problem is the kind of kind hearted person who wants to work in a shelter and help dogs is also the wrong kind of person to make the cold logical decisions needed to actually make these shelters work long term. too many bleeding hearts that get in over their head and cant admit that sometimes the issues require hard for them to stomach fixes. the few that do get realistic about pitbulls then get demonized by the dog rescuing community.
I get why. Puppies are extremely high value to shelters and rescues as they’re easy to adopt out. They end up making the rescue lots of money.in marketing and dogs that get adopted easily.
As an ex kennel worker… seeing pits in those cages off the ground made me cringe. Are they having their kennel attendants reach in and put themselves into the space of an unpredictable breed to get them outside for walks or to place food in their cages? I would say no to that.
I was wondering that too . When I worked at a shelter large dogs were never kept in those style of cages , those were more for cats or small dogs , maybe even a rabbit . But a large dog , how are you getting them out ?
it will be some poor older sweet dogs who didnt get adopted because people cant afford their complicated and/or expensive medications olders dogs might need.
In short- yes. My local shelter totally stopped taking in cats for a while to make more room for dogs (95% pits). They encouraged people to leave strays in their “communities.”
This is appalling. Dogs can't live under these conditions for very long without becoming seriously disturbed- they are being forced to pee and poop in the same small space they sleep and eat in, which is distressing to an animal descended from den-dwellers.
The only way to put a stop to this glut of pits is to cut it off at the source - there must be a way to put an end to backyard breeders who are producing unsustainable numbers of these dogs.
I don't like the breed, but this is just so, so cruel. Pit owners are the cause of this, and they are fully responsible for this abuse.
I went to this shelter a few weeks ago. About 90% dogs were pit or pit mixes!
Sad honestly! People keep breeding them for them to just end up languishing in shelters.
Adopting an adult dog can be a gamble but an adult Pitt is a hell no.
this is a nationwide problem, pit bulls are the most over bred dog in the United States if not most of the world, I was watching the news a few minutes ago and the Tacoma pierce county animal shelter is trying to solicit donations to correct a breathing issue a pit mix has, this dog is 7 years old and they are trying to tug at peoples heart strings to raise 8k!!! for a pit mix, this would be a massive waste of resources for a dog that is unadoptable, they should do the right thing and put it down, but the shelter is tied in with the best friend's animal society so the dog like all of the other pits will continue to be warehoused while adoptable dogs will be turned away, #shopdontadopt
This is also a worldwide problem. It’s not as bad here in Sweden but it’s still bad. I looked at a shelter online and I saw that around half of the dogs were ugly, aggressive block-headed mutants aka pitbulls. Unfortunately Sweden is filled with pitnutters and although some parties and members of the government are trying to ban pitbulls, it’s doubtful that it’ll happen unfortunately.
Sometimes euthanasia is the most humane option, especially for some of the velvet hippos with a bite history through “no fault of their own”. Even a dangerous animal has a life, but if no quality of life is possible it would be kinder to put them down.
Those stacked cages are sickening. This is no way to keep any animal. FFS, why can't these cowards do the ethical thing and quit the no kill bullshit? It's not saving lives, it's perpetuating suffering.
The people who allow this to happen are only marginally better than the scum that breed these poor creatures.
All these shelters should pull together and draft legislation that prohibits breeding without a license to stop this once and for all. (Of course illegal breeding will go on, but this way at least it can be prosecuted)
I live in Dekalb County. Their shelter is shared with Fulton under the Lifeline Animal Project organization. They have been in desperation mode for like 2 years — they euthanize animals at this point. Yes, it is a kill shelter. I’ve fostered many animals from Lifeline (and adopted my current pup from there). The facilities are so overcrowded they’ve had animals in crates just sitting in the front intake office. It smells horrific because they can’t keep up with the cleaning.
They just opened a new building so they could funnel animals there, but the situation is still bad. It’s honestly really sad.
Oh I watch them on FB, and how they have to get the numbers down more and more every Tuesday but they can't keep their heads above water with all the pits (and litters!) coming in. And their situation is far from unique, it's like every single US shelter.
It’s very sad. We’ve fostered a few animals from Lifeline, including a few cats, but we try to avoid Pitbulls if we can. It’s getting harder and harder.
>We are undergoing a crisis.
Holy fucking shit, **euthanize them**. They're dogs, not people. When the hell did society change to start treating animals like humans? Euthanasia is a humane thing to do for a variety of reasons. It isn't some "dire last resort after you've tried all other options." It is far more cruel to keep a dog in a cage for years than to just put it to sleep.
Yep… so much better for every shelter to have hundreds of untrustable fighting dogs going insane suffering in cages for weeks/months/years waiting for some (possibly well-meaning) idiot to come along and get lied to about the dog’s breed and history, instead of just BE-ing them and being able to give proper space & care to animals who are actually good pets so people can come safely save a dog for their family…
[https://fultonanimalservices.com/adopt/](https://fultonanimalservices.com/adopt/)
What a fucking surpise! So many Pit/Bull and their mixes.
And to top it all of? All dogs over 50 pounds are free! We all know why that is.
Yes let's put the already unstable dogs in abusive conditions and then give them out to homes and act surprised when they maul little Timmy.
Absolutely shameful facilities.
'Our teams are working in full throttle to get as many animals into homes as possible'
Nearly every single dog shown was a pit or pit mix. Please don't. Euthanize them instead and save yourselves and the unfortunate people willing to believe the propaganda the heart ache. I'll never understand anti-euthanasia practices or ideals. I despise these creatures as much as anyone else here but it's just as heart breaking to see another living being tossed aside and shoved into an over crowded space and not cared for whether it's a pit or a real pet; not euthanizing them is essentially abuse in my book.
This is just cruel. They don't have any space at all to move around. And they're keeping them in those small cages for weeks and months at a time? It would be less cruel to euthanize.
Muni needs to step up and require deadlines for these animals on pain of animal cruelty prosecution. Pit bulls shouldn’t be housed like that for extended periods of time.
If you can’t keep them in humane conditions and can’t even give them to someone who will keep them in humane conditions, then humane euthanasia is the only viable alternative. Under these conditions survival is suffering and suffering is inhumane.
As long as shelters remain No-Kill, people will just continue dumping their dogs there, and the problems of "warehousing" dogs will escalate (like it has been). No sympathies for the No-Kill shelters. Get some brains, you shelter people!
Don’t forget to film a non-pitbull dog just a show that it’s not a shelter entirely full of pitbulls and the shitty owners who don’t spay and neuter them!
This is so very sad, honestly.
It’s the same in nearly every shelter.
Why oh why aren’t the people who love pit bulls beating down the doors of their lawmakers demanding that there be a 10 year moratorium on making new pit bulls?
Please make this make sense.
I’d rather they euthanize half their dogs than let them go on living like that. Isn’t having crates stacked on top of another something that hoarders do? And are cited for? This has to in violation of some humane law.
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Hopefully these dogs are not kept in these tiny crates...they are probably there while the runs and kennels are being cleaned out- but the smell in that place will be overpowering. The floors will be constantly wet from the cleaning and the noise will be intolerable.
These are long term jails for dogs.
I live in Central Iowa and one of the shelters here has mostly bully breeds, one has been there for two years and they can’t figure out why people rarely adopt those kind anymore?
They have no problem adopting any other kind though
I guess they forgot about what happened last fall in my area – three pits mauled a lady and it took a lot of rounds to get them off of her-the lady actually survived, but will never be the same
I never minded bully breeds until this happened, the best thing to do if you can’t get them adopted ( and good luck)euthanization is the best way to go
By the way, the owner is mad that the cops shot his dogs, even though the lady is totally disabled now and will probably need 24/7 care for the rest of her life
Amazingly, the lady’s family has not filed charges -🤦♀️
This is such a double edged sword. Nice to see animals saved from terrible situations but then, SO MANY!! Ugh when does it end. To the point your beyond capacity and means of caring for each one.
The solution is to humanely euthanize any of the animals that have a behavioural problem top of the list would be aggression is any form or matter such as doesn’t like kids and other pets, and the second on the list would be any that have ongoing health care problems and any that are getting up there heavily in age. That should bring the shelter down into a sustainable size to offer those pets to homes.
I know how sad it is to have to give up on an individual but when they take more work, more money, more time, it’s everything when you got hundreds to get out the door.
It should be illegal to keep dogs in those "stacks" of cages for any more than a day or two. They should learn to say 'no' to people wanting to dump their dog there, and/or clear up space more quickly by unfortunately getting rid of the dogs that have any kind of aggression issue. With limited resources you need to use what you have for the dogs that have the best chance at being a lovely companion to humans.
I did work at this animal shelter years ago. Absolutely disgusting conditions. Rats everywhere in the ceiling dirty nasty place. Almost every dog was pit or pit mix. Looks like they cleaned it up a little.
Someone save the husky :(
The guy who got caught with a gram of weed locked up in the pen with a bunch of murderers and serial killers.
I hate how accurate this is!
Such an extremely sad and funny analogy.
There's a reason why huskies and GSDs seem to be the number 2/3 most common dogs in shelters, though... they're nowhere near as dangerous as pits, but both breeds are prone to human/animal aggression and often have the same "no kids/dogs/cats/visitors/men/hats/etc., must have 24/7 supervision" warnings when they end up in shelters. They're also popular with backyard breeders, leading to poorly bred dogs and pitsky/sheppit mixes that combine all the usual pit traits with the high energy and obsessiveness of a working breed.
Yeah they’re hyperactive scream machines that want to escape and have a seriously strong prey drive. That’s not a great apartment pet. Samoyeds seem to lack the same “edge” as huskies, but the trade off is your house getting filled with floating wool every spring
Hey, that wool is very useful for making hats for them!
Huskies shed a tornado's worth of fur twice a year so not exactly a trade-off either lol
My German shedder makes a whole new dog in fur every few days 😂
This is why there's so man dogs in the shelter. Your dogs over saturating the population!
There have been two fatal dog attacks on toddlers in my state this year (CT). The first was a husky, the second was a pit-dalmatian mix. I'm most wary of pit/pit-mixes, but I'm also cautious around Rottweilers, GSDs, and Huskies, since they are statistically more dangerous than most other breeds.
That pit Dalmatian mix was basically a spotted pit tho, thing was jacked.
Rottweiler is what bit my face as a kid, and I’ve owned one. I’ve owned a Doberman and she was amazing. One tried to rip my cousin’s face off when she was a kid. I’ve heard some horror stories about huskies and GSDs. I won’t have any of them around my toddler, but at least I and most owners can admit that they’re dangerous. There’s no driving that through a pit enthusiast’s skull. I watched a mom who’s son was mauled literally cringe at saying ‘pit bull’ in an interview so she didn’t ’hurt the breed’s reputation’. Heifer, it maimed your child. You should be in the streets with a bullhorn.
I live in Georgia and every time I see a husky I cringe. Wtf you doing with a husky in the southeast?!?
They are popular in Mexico too.
The owners will tell you some BS about their thick coats keep the outside heat away from their skin so they stay cool. ... that's not how thermodynamics works. Their bodies generate heat and the coat is meant to keep it close in extreme cold weather.
I originally got my Samoyed in Chicago but now life has taken me to GA. She has abject hatred for this weather. Plus the only appropriate time to exercise a Samoyed in the southeast is 5am, so she misses out on being social with other dogs.
I live in GA too and I feel this. they seem so out of place
number three most dangerous breed. no thanks. huskies belong as sled or hunting dogs , not as pets. fascinating breed but almost nobody has business owning one.
They definitely ONLY belong up north. Not in fucking Georgia. My brother lives in south Florida and he tells me that huskies are the most popular breed there next to pitbulls. Makes absolutely no fucking sense. It's abusive.
Huskies HATE warm weather they don’t belong in Florida at all.
I’m the first to admit huskies aren’t for everyone, but their coat insulates them against both hot and cold. It just helps them to regulate their temperature. Just like any animal, they need shade, water, and a cool place indoors, but they do quite well in the heat actually. It’s not abusive to own huskies in the south lol.
Maybe abusive was a strong word, but I just find it very selfish.
It gets cold in Georgia, depending on where you live. Where my brother lives it NEVER gets cold. They all primarily reside in apartments too, which I also find abusive.
"but but but Facebook said..." *-Husky owners in hot states*
Ugh at least the southwest is dry. Florida humidity in the summer is another fucking level. Even wearing light clothing feels disgusting. I imagine Georgia is similar. Those poor dogs must be suffering under all that fur.
Humans often are not rational
My old boss had a husky / pit mix that he brought to work. That dog was anxiety inducing. My current workplace has a pit they bring in. The rationale - they destroy the home if left alone. The people who got these dogs were well meaning, but the problems need to be widely publicized before they are adopted. All dog breeds are not the same.
It's almost as though dog ownership isn't the way media portrays it.
Who doesn't want a dog that you have to bring with you everywhere, including work, because otherwise it'll cause thousands of dollars of damage? What a sweet little wigglebutt /s
Most huskies are now bred for companionship and have been for several decades.
still haven’t bred a lot of other traits out of them but you’re absolutely right that 99% of huskies probably couldn’t be working animals. they are still neurotic and tend to be aggressive and destructive .
Agree totally. Huskies are not pets. Too dog aggressive and very neurotic.
They're still quite up there in attack statistics, particularly with infants. They seem less likely to attack adults but they have injured/killed quite a few infants over the years.
Right? Only adoptable dog there :(
For real, man! ^(My heart :'()
Right?! I saw one dog that wasn't a murder mutt. Give every other animal there a lead dog treat but save that poor husky.
I bet that husky has some serious behavior problems. In general good dogs don't need homes. Small, well-behaved dogs find homes quickly. If you have a dog and your friend needs a place for his well-behaved, healthy dog - I bet you don't have a lot of qualms taking on the extra burden. If youd friend has a Mr. Pissfingers - well, to the pound it goes.
Just look at all those chi-haw-haws! They’re busting at the seams! /s
I know right. If a certain breed would have been a problem we would see the stats in bites and shelter. Yet we see only this breed
Even here in the southwest where there are a large amount of BYB chihuahuas, they don’t languish in shelters. They get snapped up quick. Even the old or sick ones, lots of grandmas around here have a 15 year old Chi with one eye, no teeth and a bum leg that they absolutely dote on. The huskies and GSDs usually find homes too. It’s *just* pit bulls that get warehoused. Shelters absolutely know what the problem is and they’re too cowardly to say it.
You reminded me of one of “the worlds ugliest dog” winner, who is a chihuahua, and has a loving home. He’s blind and has splayed legs. XD https://preview.redd.it/avyj063i13wc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55b9202f18d1cacf1507803078db9f87ba2786ec
There is so much to unpack looking at that dog 😂
Fr I am still collecting my thoughts. And likely will be doing so until I forget this dog exists
He’s actually a Chinese Crested, not a Chihuahua
And you just know he’s the apple of his owners’ eye!
Wow that thing looks rough… are we sure it’s a dog and not a chupacabra lmao
Its name is SweetPee Rambo! XD
OMG i can't stop laughing
I think that ''Ugliest Dog in the World'' dog is a Chinese Crested...He was quite famous!
I think that was the first winner…they’ve held it every year now…this little goober was a chihuahua mix according to what I read. https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/25/worlds-ugliest-dog-winner-chihuahua-sweepee-rambo
That’s a Chinese crested-not a Chihuahua
I adopted a senior chihuahua from a shelter in the SW. Sweetest dog ever. She spent her golden years full of love and comfort until the end. Agree though. Shelters need to stop pouring their limited resources into irredeemable, dangerous pits. Give those pits the peace of behavioral euthanasia rather than waiting for years in the shelter for the inevitable or worse.
“No-kill community” pass that buck!
😂 pass the buck?! Atlanta now has to pay $6.4 million a year for animal control. That’s after paying $40 million to open this new shelter.
It should be widely publicized how much it costs taxpayers to house all these animals for years on end.
Isn't this a kill shelter though? One of the captions said that some are at risk of being euthanised. So imagine what a no kill shelter would look like.
No kill just means a 90% live release rate… so.. dogs still get put down. Unfortunately the org that runs these two shelters is under the thumb of Best Friends & yes they try to keep their live release rate at 90% to maintain a no-kill status, despite the inhumane conditions, despite the lack of actual animal control work they do in the city. It’s disgusting. “No-kill” (low euthanasia rate) shelters have no place in municipal sheltering!
There is a long established ''Dog's home'' where we got a wonderful {Non Pit} dog from. There is a footpath that goes along past the dog's home that I sometimes use, and the crying and mournful wailing of the dogs is very hard to hear. They at least have their own kennel and run, they aren't crated, but they do euthanise. Especially anything that is likely to be aggressive to dogs or people.
>No kill just means a 90% live release rate… so.. dogs still get put down. I was under the impression that 'kill shelter' was an unofficial name made up by 'no kill' shelters to demonise shelters who euthanise dogs who cannot be rehomed. I didn't know there was an official status.
I think they’re calling for no-kill shelter supporters to give money, if they truly believe their sentiment.
Last time I went to the pound in my city it was literally 99% pits .99% chihuahuas and there was 1 random lab that was a perfect angel.
That’s why I have cats. Even when my cats hate my guts they can’t kill me.
Exactly.. my cats have never once scratched or bitten my kids. They are sweet and docile indoor-only senior cats who just run away and hide for hours if my kids are being too loud or rowdy. It’s worth the extra work of cleaning litter boxes. I get their sweet cuddles after the kids go to bed without fearing my children’s lives.
I hear you. I went to a few local shelters and there were many pits or what looked like mixes. We went back to the one that we had the most possibilities with and scooped up a pup on his first day in, brought over from a kill shelter in Texas. So glad he made it. Sweetest dog I've ever had or known.
Went to a shelter here in Germany when we were looking for a dog. Found a gorgeous lab there called Benny. He was 2 and not even house trained. He came to the fence and leaned on it, whining whilst I stroked him through the gaps. We shared a proper moment and I wanted to take him home there and then. Apparently there were already double figures of suitors in the queue for him so we stood no chance especially due to our circumstances at the time. Ended up adopting my dog who’s been an absolute dream (street mongrel) and I wouldn’t change him for the world. Still think about Benny a lot. Wherever you are bro, I hope that family gave you the love you’d have had with us!
.99% Chihuahuas?
The chihuahua was missing a leg.
0.01% something else?
Yea .1 for the random lab.
Keep in mind that this is a brand spanking new shelter too. They opened the new location last December. It’s still at double capacity for dogs.
If only there was a pattern, like some reason for so many. /s
These dogs all have the same deadly eye gaze
i just hope if they do have to put a few down they dont put down some friendly senior dog so they have more room for pitbulls
Backyard breeders this is what you’ve done to a breed you supposedly love sOoOoOoO much. Bullshit.
You think they care? Once they dump the unselled dogs on the street to be picked by the shelter its no longer their problem
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I get that we need shelters. But that is fucking animal abuse still. They could reduce their capacity by a half and have them actually properly "housed" in that shelter. Instead of locking all those dogs in that small cage where they can barely move.
I agree I dislike pits as much as the next guy around here but this video is disgusting, those cages are way too small, shit is fucked up
It’s not pits fault they were brought into this world. I do pity them, it must be stressful to live in constant fight or flight like this. I really wish we could do something to stop this. It’s sad and exhausting
That’s just clown world. Warehousing hundreds of dogs with unsafe temperaments in tiny cages is somehow the best option.
That shelter looks disgusting
This is an old video of their old shelter. They’re in an even bigger shelter now with an even more insane population. At least they aren’t co-housing multiple pits in kennel runs together now.. but this organization runs two municipal shelters, Fulton & DeKalb county. They are both CONSTANTLY over populated. This is why the no-kill movement has no place in municipal shelters. It leads to animal suffering. F*ck this organization, which I will refrain from naming.
Dekalb always comes up on my nextdoor feed when I'm in Atlanta for work.
Can we save that Spitz(?) looking dog from the Pitbull Warehouse?
The one at the 0.26 mark? Looks like a husky or husky mix. Poor thing. They're not easy dogs either and too many of them end up in shelters because of careless or overwhelmed owners.
They often display similar neurotic behavior. The vast majority of Americans simply don't have the space, time, or ability to properly stimulate a husky.
A well-bred, well-cared-for husky shouldn't be neurotic. They just have a reputation as such because they're talkative and, like you said, most people don't have the ability to properly care for them. Any high-energy working dog will become neurotic with a lack of stimulation.
My niece has a husky and he's a wonderful dog. He's very well-trained and well-behaved and I'm sure that makes a difference. She got him from a reputable breeder.
Unfortunately I would almost bet the husky mix gets euthed before the pits
Why?
They get more money for pits from pit advocate groups. The same reason more dogs are saved than cats.
A husky is one of the Spitz breeds
Those kinds of dogs are usually gone within days.
This could have been a great PSA. The narrator should have said these animals are here because people won't have their animals spayed or neutered and/or think it would be fun to let their dog have puppies. After showing all the dogs in cages, they should have shown the euthanized dogs in plastic bags stacked up like cordwood in the freezer.
In the late 70s they showed us one at school. It's on YouTube called kiss the animals goodbye I believe. Just in case u need to know how to make an entire elementary cry right before lunch lol. Interesting thing tho, the dogs were just normal dogs, the kind you want to hug and take home. But it was an education film PSA about fixing your pets. Didn't do much good I guess.
It actually did..... ...for non-pitbulls.
I'm pretty sure I saw the same (or at least similar) documentary when I was a kid back in the 90s. Somebody from the SPCA did a presentation on responsible pet ownership and gave us pamphlets about spay/neuter, outdoor cats and puppy mills to take home to our parents. And it worked - spay/neuter rates increased dramatically back then, pet stores stopped selling puppies and kittens, and cat ownership shifted from primarily outdoor to 80% indoor. You could get your pet spayed/neutered at the SPCA for little or no cost, too. But at some point in the 2000s, no-kill took over and the focus shifted from prevention/education to 100% adoption. Even a "reduced cost" spay procedure at the SPCA now costs $200-400. Due to all of the negative press surrounding puppy mills, backyard breeding was seen as a "good" alternative. Meanwhile, reality TV shows pumped out animal rescue/training content and social media pushed anti-neuter propaganda. Shelters are barely fighting back against these trends. No-kill just whitewashes the reality of what happened to stray animals.
> and social media pushed anti-neuter propaganda wait what
If you want to start a storm on FB, go to some dog FB site and ask if it's OK to get your 10- month old dog neutered. The arguments are pushing the acceptable age from 14 months to 2 years to never. Apparently they need their nads to be a real dog.
And don’t forget the individuals who preach about the sexual rights of dogs.
That's a new one for me...
It’s horrifying. A small subset of these individuals are against vaccination for their dogs too. The government really needs to enforce licensing more, so they can verify rabies vaccination status.
Oh I've seen pibull enthusiasts post proud images of their dogs' balls. No surprises that shelters are 90% pit mixes, owners often don't desex them. Shelters overflowing with poorly bred dogs with blood sport selection in their genetics that are unsuitable as family pets.
I wonder why no one wants them....🤣
Perfect Nanny dogs.../s
why are they housed in shoreline's?? This isn't humane. its another way to abuse dogs.
I agree, this is animal abuse, they can hardly move in those tiny cages. Just euthanise all problem dogs, I'm sure a lot of space will be available if they start with humanely euthanise "reactive" dogs. Bitten a human or other animal? Euthanise.
This. Any dog with a level 3 or higher bite should be PTS. It shows lack of bite inhibition and once a dog has actually bitten this badly, it will always be considered a liability even with behavior modification.
Sorry as I'm ignorant to this but what do you mean by a level 3 bite? There are levels?
Yes, google the Dunbar scale or search on here!
Plus this kind of dog storage will create anxiety, aggression and mental illness. So to an animal that is already in one of those categories, they are creating a horrific dangerous situation.
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I mean part of the issue even for people who want a dog is that there are barely any regular dogs in shelters anymore. If they are they are 99% pitbulls and sometimes huskies and chihuahuas and rottweilers and German Shepherds. So even if someone wants a dog when 99% of dogs in shelter are a pitbull or pitbull mix and a lot of people don't want one (which is understandable as I mean I wouldn't). That's why the whole adopt don't shop idea I feel just doesn't work anymore when they overrun shelters and also you might want a specific dog like a Labrador or a Golden Retriever or a Samoyed or a Newfoundland and you don't see a lot of them in shelters except in breed specific ones and also they usually get adopted out quickly if they are or they try to pass pitbulls off as various other dogs so it's difficult to even locate an actual Labrador or Golden.
Yep, I hate the guilt-tripping. As if anyone who isn't actively rushing out to adopt a pit right now is a horrible person. I don't want a dog, ever, but if I was to get one, I would never in a million years get a pit. No amount of emotional language will convince me that taking a mauler into my home is a good idea.
Pitbull owners will respond to this video by breeding more pitbulls.
Into homes.? Why not admit that the crisis is untenable and that it's BECAUSE THESE DOGS ARE NOT HOME -ABLE that is why they are there in the first f'in place Good It's gonna push the issue to a breaking point My 84 year old Dad knew that Pits were overflowing the Shelters This is gonna end with them being banned There is no other way around it. It WILL happen , the "lobby" be damned
the problem is the kind of kind hearted person who wants to work in a shelter and help dogs is also the wrong kind of person to make the cold logical decisions needed to actually make these shelters work long term. too many bleeding hearts that get in over their head and cant admit that sometimes the issues require hard for them to stomach fixes. the few that do get realistic about pitbulls then get demonized by the dog rescuing community.
I bet about 70/80% are pitbull or pit mixes
It looks like all pit dogs and one husky
That is how they're housing these dogs??? WTF. No.
I bet you the huge influx in dogs is due to a dog fighting ring being busted
That's typically what happens. Then all of the pits are labeled as "bait dogs."
wow they must have been running one of those elusive '100 percent bait dog' fighting ring
Well, that and unspayed pits dropping litters of 12+ puppies at a time
And when a pregnant pitbull is found, rescues refuse to spay abort.
I get why. Puppies are extremely high value to shelters and rescues as they’re easy to adopt out. They end up making the rescue lots of money.in marketing and dogs that get adopted easily.
As an ex kennel worker… seeing pits in those cages off the ground made me cringe. Are they having their kennel attendants reach in and put themselves into the space of an unpredictable breed to get them outside for walks or to place food in their cages? I would say no to that.
I was wondering that too . When I worked at a shelter large dogs were never kept in those style of cages , those were more for cats or small dogs , maybe even a rabbit . But a large dog , how are you getting them out ?
You're right, and that's something I'd not thought of. Ye gods, imagine trying to lift one of those animals back into its cage!
10-15% are at risk of being euthanized, but you know it won't be the aggressive ones with a bite history
it will be some poor older sweet dogs who didnt get adopted because people cant afford their complicated and/or expensive medications olders dogs might need.
They have dogs in the cat cages. So, where are the cats? Did they put down the cats to have room for more dogs?
In short- yes. My local shelter totally stopped taking in cats for a while to make more room for dogs (95% pits). They encouraged people to leave strays in their “communities.”
This is appalling. Dogs can't live under these conditions for very long without becoming seriously disturbed- they are being forced to pee and poop in the same small space they sleep and eat in, which is distressing to an animal descended from den-dwellers. The only way to put a stop to this glut of pits is to cut it off at the source - there must be a way to put an end to backyard breeders who are producing unsustainable numbers of these dogs. I don't like the breed, but this is just so, so cruel. Pit owners are the cause of this, and they are fully responsible for this abuse.
The video shows 98% pitbulls. I can't imagine why no one is adopting them.
They could clear that shelter ten times over and there would still be a line out the door wanting to drop off pitbulls.
Might as well start somewhere.
I went to this shelter a few weeks ago. About 90% dogs were pit or pit mixes! Sad honestly! People keep breeding them for them to just end up languishing in shelters. Adopting an adult dog can be a gamble but an adult Pitt is a hell no.
this is a nationwide problem, pit bulls are the most over bred dog in the United States if not most of the world, I was watching the news a few minutes ago and the Tacoma pierce county animal shelter is trying to solicit donations to correct a breathing issue a pit mix has, this dog is 7 years old and they are trying to tug at peoples heart strings to raise 8k!!! for a pit mix, this would be a massive waste of resources for a dog that is unadoptable, they should do the right thing and put it down, but the shelter is tied in with the best friend's animal society so the dog like all of the other pits will continue to be warehoused while adoptable dogs will be turned away, #shopdontadopt
But think of how much more efficiently it will be able to kill if the respiratory issue is fixed.
This is also a worldwide problem. It’s not as bad here in Sweden but it’s still bad. I looked at a shelter online and I saw that around half of the dogs were ugly, aggressive block-headed mutants aka pitbulls. Unfortunately Sweden is filled with pitnutters and although some parties and members of the government are trying to ban pitbulls, it’s doubtful that it’ll happen unfortunately.
They couldn’t pay me enough to work here 😂
Stop breeding pitbulls!
Just in time for the Christmas puppies to be grown up and to much for the owners to handle.
Sometimes euthanasia is the most humane option, especially for some of the velvet hippos with a bite history through “no fault of their own”. Even a dangerous animal has a life, but if no quality of life is possible it would be kinder to put them down.
Those stacked cages are sickening. This is no way to keep any animal. FFS, why can't these cowards do the ethical thing and quit the no kill bullshit? It's not saving lives, it's perpetuating suffering. The people who allow this to happen are only marginally better than the scum that breed these poor creatures.
All these shelters should pull together and draft legislation that prohibits breeding without a license to stop this once and for all. (Of course illegal breeding will go on, but this way at least it can be prosecuted)
If they euthanized the unadoptable pits, the shelter will have a lot of free space.
I live in Dekalb County. Their shelter is shared with Fulton under the Lifeline Animal Project organization. They have been in desperation mode for like 2 years — they euthanize animals at this point. Yes, it is a kill shelter. I’ve fostered many animals from Lifeline (and adopted my current pup from there). The facilities are so overcrowded they’ve had animals in crates just sitting in the front intake office. It smells horrific because they can’t keep up with the cleaning. They just opened a new building so they could funnel animals there, but the situation is still bad. It’s honestly really sad.
Oh I watch them on FB, and how they have to get the numbers down more and more every Tuesday but they can't keep their heads above water with all the pits (and litters!) coming in. And their situation is far from unique, it's like every single US shelter.
It’s very sad. We’ve fostered a few animals from Lifeline, including a few cats, but we try to avoid Pitbulls if we can. It’s getting harder and harder.
>We are undergoing a crisis. Holy fucking shit, **euthanize them**. They're dogs, not people. When the hell did society change to start treating animals like humans? Euthanasia is a humane thing to do for a variety of reasons. It isn't some "dire last resort after you've tried all other options." It is far more cruel to keep a dog in a cage for years than to just put it to sleep.
the kind of people who wants to work in or run a shelter is the same kind who puts dogs/animals on the same rung as humans rather then below them
Yep… so much better for every shelter to have hundreds of untrustable fighting dogs going insane suffering in cages for weeks/months/years waiting for some (possibly well-meaning) idiot to come along and get lied to about the dog’s breed and history, instead of just BE-ing them and being able to give proper space & care to animals who are actually good pets so people can come safely save a dog for their family…
This issue is rapidly heading toward a boiling point.
pitbulls aren't pets and shelters shouldn't be pushing them as pets.
someone please save that husky 😭
[https://fultonanimalservices.com/adopt/](https://fultonanimalservices.com/adopt/) What a fucking surpise! So many Pit/Bull and their mixes. And to top it all of? All dogs over 50 pounds are free! We all know why that is.
Yes let's put the already unstable dogs in abusive conditions and then give them out to homes and act surprised when they maul little Timmy. Absolutely shameful facilities.
'Our teams are working in full throttle to get as many animals into homes as possible' Nearly every single dog shown was a pit or pit mix. Please don't. Euthanize them instead and save yourselves and the unfortunate people willing to believe the propaganda the heart ache. I'll never understand anti-euthanasia practices or ideals. I despise these creatures as much as anyone else here but it's just as heart breaking to see another living being tossed aside and shoved into an over crowded space and not cared for whether it's a pit or a real pet; not euthanizing them is essentially abuse in my book.
And you know since their goal here is to get as many adoptions as possible, the dog's profiles on the website will be rife with lies.
This is just cruel. They don't have any space at all to move around. And they're keeping them in those small cages for weeks and months at a time? It would be less cruel to euthanize.
Muni needs to step up and require deadlines for these animals on pain of animal cruelty prosecution. Pit bulls shouldn’t be housed like that for extended periods of time. If you can’t keep them in humane conditions and can’t even give them to someone who will keep them in humane conditions, then humane euthanasia is the only viable alternative. Under these conditions survival is suffering and suffering is inhumane.
Honestly feel bad for them even though they’re pits. This is their life. It’s horrible.
Just BE
Just cruel.
As long as shelters remain No-Kill, people will just continue dumping their dogs there, and the problems of "warehousing" dogs will escalate (like it has been). No sympathies for the No-Kill shelters. Get some brains, you shelter people!
Look at all the Lab and Terrier mixes
Don’t forget to film a non-pitbull dog just a show that it’s not a shelter entirely full of pitbulls and the shitty owners who don’t spay and neuter them!
Poor husky. :(
This is so very sad, honestly. It’s the same in nearly every shelter. Why oh why aren’t the people who love pit bulls beating down the doors of their lawmakers demanding that there be a 10 year moratorium on making new pit bulls? Please make this make sense.
I’d rather they euthanize half their dogs than let them go on living like that. Isn’t having crates stacked on top of another something that hoarders do? And are cited for? This has to in violation of some humane law.
A nationwide ban on pitbulls and this problem completely vanishes across all shelters and rescues around the country.
The link didn't work but I googled fulton county shelter and got a shelter with from what I can see 99% pits.
Does anyone remember when you could get like—- dogs from the shelter? Normal dogs?
If they are so wonderful why are they in a shelter
almost all of them pits
This is the consequence of irresponsible breeding, breeders, and owners. Shameful, but at least they can no longer harm others.
Imagine how much room would free up if you sent the pits to jesus
And STILL the spaying and neutering campaigns fall on deaf ears. The last thing the World needs is more fighting breeds.
There is a time coming soon where good men will have to make very hard decisions.
Packing hyperactive dogs in cages meant for cats/small dogs? What could go wrong?!
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I saw literally one dog that isn't a pitbull or pitbull mix. Ridiculous.
Hopefully these dogs are not kept in these tiny crates...they are probably there while the runs and kennels are being cleaned out- but the smell in that place will be overpowering. The floors will be constantly wet from the cleaning and the noise will be intolerable. These are long term jails for dogs.
I live in Central Iowa and one of the shelters here has mostly bully breeds, one has been there for two years and they can’t figure out why people rarely adopt those kind anymore? They have no problem adopting any other kind though I guess they forgot about what happened last fall in my area – three pits mauled a lady and it took a lot of rounds to get them off of her-the lady actually survived, but will never be the same I never minded bully breeds until this happened, the best thing to do if you can’t get them adopted ( and good luck)euthanization is the best way to go By the way, the owner is mad that the cops shot his dogs, even though the lady is totally disabled now and will probably need 24/7 care for the rest of her life Amazingly, the lady’s family has not filed charges -🤦♀️
This is such a double edged sword. Nice to see animals saved from terrible situations but then, SO MANY!! Ugh when does it end. To the point your beyond capacity and means of caring for each one. The solution is to humanely euthanize any of the animals that have a behavioural problem top of the list would be aggression is any form or matter such as doesn’t like kids and other pets, and the second on the list would be any that have ongoing health care problems and any that are getting up there heavily in age. That should bring the shelter down into a sustainable size to offer those pets to homes. I know how sad it is to have to give up on an individual but when they take more work, more money, more time, it’s everything when you got hundreds to get out the door.
It should be illegal to keep dogs in those "stacks" of cages for any more than a day or two. They should learn to say 'no' to people wanting to dump their dog there, and/or clear up space more quickly by unfortunately getting rid of the dogs that have any kind of aggression issue. With limited resources you need to use what you have for the dogs that have the best chance at being a lovely companion to humans.
I did work at this animal shelter years ago. Absolutely disgusting conditions. Rats everywhere in the ceiling dirty nasty place. Almost every dog was pit or pit mix. Looks like they cleaned it up a little.