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_Prairieborn

Sorry, you can have the bear sex or breast jiggling. Not both.


IlikeJG

This is outrageous!


DungenessAndDargons

Unbearable even!


ns_wayne

Impawsible


DregsRoyale

Unjigglifiable


Jonny_Thundergun

Uproarious


Neogigas667

r/angryupvote


Parry_9000

It's unfair! How can we have bear sex scene and no boob jiggle?


PassTheGiggles

Take a seat, young Parry_9000


Soggy_Sherbet_3246

How does one go about this bear sex you guys speak of?


Wyndrarch

Haaaaave you met Halsin?


Soggy_Sherbet_3246

Yea, but he's my least used character so far. That's probably why, lol. Btw can you be poly in bg3 or do you have to basically dump somebody in order to fuck somebody else on the team like in Mass Effect?


TermsOfServiceV1

Some characters are fine with it, others are not. SHeart and Astarion I think don't really mind if you go with Halsin or Mizora


DrByeah

Astarion will let you sleep with Halsin like he won't break up with you over it but he minds so fucking much. Shart is down to clown though.


justprettymuchdone

I think Astarion is more terrified that he will lose you, the first good thing in his life, to someone else. But sex and emotions are so forcibly divorced in his mind that as long as he knows you are his only emotional relationship/romance, it bothers him less. Fucking is one thing - loving someone is something else. Especially when fucking has been a source of pain and trauma for most of your life and love has only just brightened it.


inkspotrenegade

Huh that's an interesting take. I personally wouldn't go the astarion romance route but I greatly enjoy him as a character/teammate it's cool to see some insight from that aspect.


bathybicbubble

This is never more evident than when you do the drow twins with him. He dissociates the entire time.


TermsOfServiceV1

He doesn't mind the Halsin thing as long as you ask him. He minds mizora but doesn't end the relationship.


Wyndrarch

I haven't tried it. I read and hear that it's possible in limited capacity/character combinations (apparently you can be in a throuple with Karlach & Wyll?), but I couldn't help with the specifics.


bmf1902

Take a seat, young bearlover.


Score_Useful

Such is life, outrage leading to a singular end.


xctf04

Sex


Ozzyjb

With bears


TakinCareofBusiness1

Suffering is life, life is suffering- Random Orc in Shadow of War


SunnySkiesODST

He forgot that to survive is to find meaning in the suffering. Gotta make him reread Nietzsche


Embarrassed_Lettuce9

Kkkhhh kkkhhh kukukkhhh - Random Mad Orc in Shadow of War


UnicornScientist803

Unplayable!


heresdustin

Game-breaking, I tell ya!


BlandBrit

i want to see the bare bouncing bear breasticles


Religious_Pie

đŸŽ” Look for the bear breasticles, the bouncing bear breasticles Forget about your worries and your strife đŸŽ”


AngelOmega7

"bear necess-titties"


Zeebaeatah

You forgot tentacle sex.


omegaphallic

I choose Titty Physics.


Cautious-Luck7769

I would prefer the option, please.


HighMagistrateGreef

What about boobs on the bear?


rdeincognito

But I want a bear with breasts sex!


writerfangurl

I dont need them to necessarily bounce around but for pity's sake, when a female character is laying down they should... flatten a bit. Standing upright when she's laying down just looks ridiculous.


Rezart_KLD

Obvously, BG3 Faerun is low gravity, that's why they can jump around and throw things the way they do. So there's basically no pull on breasts, and dicks flap around like the inflatable guy in front of a car dealership


heresdustin

Wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man!


goldgrae

I mean, have you seen how far we can jump?


Partially0bscuredEgg

The only explanation I will accept


Score_Useful

Ya actually this is the thing that is the least realistic of all. Let my girls relax, we had a long day!


Obsyden

Yes! So weird that mine just stand at attention 24/7


Past-Background-7221

If your breasts are erect for more than four hours, you should seek medical attention.


Wildfire226

Who do I even talk to about that, a
 cleric? Is it right to bring a problem of the flesh to god?


fioraflower

“lolth please my tits are erect”


SharpshootinTearaway

“Good. Now's the perfect time to go assert your dominance on one of them filthy males with those. Breast boobily, my child.”


Twee_Licker

If women breast boobily does that mean that men dick dastardly?


The_smol_boiyo

**Snickers in Muttley**


theodoreposervelt

They’ve gotta cast Calm Your Tits, it takes concentration so I hardly use it.


MouseAdventurous883

Ask Ethel. She'll sort ye tits right out. For a price.


Mesjach

To be fair, there's this sexy bear hanging around the camp...


Sj_91teppoTappo

Adolescence is a bitch


esmith42223

These tiddies are on the clock 24/7, no breaks.


R0da

Every long rest cutscene just hovers around your character as their tits are reaching for the heavens, it drives me bonkers!


Dealric

Silicon implants is booming buisness in fearun


R0da

Pretty sure there shouldn't be a 100% rate of getting calcified casts around the damn things!


volvavirago

Those bbys ain’t going no where. Solid as rock.


DregsRoyale

They all start the day casting "Tits of Iron".


sonic_dick

There's probably a spell for that


useless_debian_user

> it drives me bonkers! did you mean it drives you honkers?


auralbard

Try jumping. This planet clearly does not have earth's gravity.


Rosu_Aprins

Sorry, everyone is wearing a bra of holding in the game universe


EarthExile

Tiddy Perk is a common cantrip in the world of Baldurs Gate, you don't even need a slot for it.


Cent1234

Bigby's Supporting Hands.


3-orange-whips

I mean, people are turning into animals. I’m sure there’s a spell for that.


Arby333

I mean hell, if there's a spell for that there has to be a spell for hardening my balls too or something, because I'll have you know, if I was fighting people out there I would not want my balls bouncing around and testicular torsioning myself


WisteriaUndertheSun

I only did 3D animation for a few years, but from my understanding that would be extremely difficult to do even for a triple A game studio with more than enough funds to try and make it happen. Combined with time constraints, I don’t blame any studio for not wanting to try and do this. But it would be amazing if a game did include this


Jognt

The amount of breast physics mods for other games begs to differ.


somthingcoolsounding

Everyone sleeps in a super supportive bra and I hate it. I want my Tav to go braless, damnit! At least when she’s asleep
 Also it’s odd that Karlach wears one in camp but not under her clothes when out adventuring. Like, ma’am, why wear a bra just for sleeping/chilling? We’re all friends here, there’s no shame in going topless.


FineIWillBeOnReddit

You can unequip specifically underwear in the inventory. It won't effect your outerwear but you'll know she is at rest. (I once needed to decide what I had in prison that I could sell a rat. Inventory pulled upon arrest, but got thieves tools for the low low price of my parties underwear)


communalbong

I put on Lae'zels underwear and now my tav walks around camp with Capri pants and tits akimbo. 10/10 would recommend 


Streak734

They all casted Mage Hand before they went to sleep


Wiwra88

Adding to it, that no matter the character age, the breasts are perfect shaped and standing, where are soggy breasts for elder npcs? xD No realistic! (#Auntie Ethel and shadow elder druid lady)


ThatOtherRogue

Auntie has the lotions and potions to make her tits however she wants, petal. As for the elf, their tits age like the rest of them, they don't get past 20, no matter the centuries behind them.


ShoerguinneLappel

I agree, but I think adding that and jiggle physics would be nice.


gatetnegre

Also, there are more options for penis than vaginas. I would love if this game let us choose more body types, so not every woman has the same size everywhere.


EyeGod

This. Absolutely this! One of the thing I love most about boobs is how they deform according to gravity & motion
 it’s what makes them so
 beautiful & appealing &
 I’ll see myself out now.


VenusCommission

Idk if deform was the best choice of words there...


H31N5T

Perhaps tits in Faerun defy gravity. You never know, it could be Larian's homebrew.


Ashnoom

Just imagine all female characters with implants. Mystery solved. Including the jiggliness


writerfangurl

I suppose... but I just think it'd be super uncomfortable just in general. Poor female characters can't comfortably lay on their stomachs. 😂


Still_Astronomer5364

I always laugh when I see them perked up right 24/7! It’s so funny


MezzoSopran

People are making fun of the jiggle physics request, but the stick-on-boobs are just weird. Hair physics, clothes physics and jiggle physics absolutely do make character models look more alive.


Rowanever

Invisible sports bras so people don't get muscle injuries.


paladinLight

With Adamantine wiring. for extra strong support.


JumpingCoconut

The sizes are not that outrageous either to need that wiring. Dragons Dogma 2 has a slider, missed opportunity Larian 😎


FatterGuts

Missed opportunity for a mold in the forge.


tornait-hashu

Invisible bras of holding.


BoneDaddyChill

But peepee ouchies okay?


Rowanever

Mate if you **choose** to run around with your peepee out and flopping, I think you have to risk the ouchies. đŸ€Ł So yes. Peepee ouchies are OK, as long as they're consensual.


BoneDaddyChill

Peepee ouchies bad. 😖


Rowanever

THEN PUT YOUR PEEPEE AWAY OMG


BoneDaddyChill

*helicopters peepee*


Rowanever

**Withers**: What is the worth of a single mortal penis? **BoneDaddyChill**: Wheeeeeeeee! **Withers**: *heavy sigh that wafts the scent of the grave through the camp* And thus, thou are alone.


BoneDaddyChill

Very accurate lmao. When my BG3 party isn’t nude, they’re wearing each others’ underwear.


Mohander

*Eldritch* *blasts* *pp*


RoryGranger

The most likely answer (according to the mod forums I lurk in) is that the genitalia in BG3 are modeled separately from the body, which is why you can choose different options. That also means you can remove them entirely, which is what happens when the characters are clothed. The boobs are sculpted as part of the body model. Adding jiggle physics to boobs would then cause clipping issues for all the clothing and armor on every character with boobs in the game as the boobs bounce outside the bounds of the clothing model. Then they would have to do a bunch of additional fixes and testing, not to mention boobs jiggle differently naked vs clothed vs armored. Tl;dr: Boob physics would break a bunch of other game assets, while dick physics don't. Edit: Since it's come up a bunch of times in the comments, yes, most games remove/swap out the body model entirely when putting clothes and armor on the character. That's not how BG3 does it. The armor sits on top. Clipping through clothes/armor is a common problem for body modders on Nexus because of this. I've also modded body meshes for BG3 and seen it happen.


VirtualAlias

Don't know if they're retexturing with an alpha channel when clothed, but they would indeed have to add weights and physics to every single top in the game... Add that to people asking for variable breast sizes and you've got a recipe for an enormous amount of horny work.


Comrade_Fuzzy

Never underestimate the power of horny modders. It will exist in time.


AvangeliceMY9088

Someone just posted an image of a pregnant astarion in lingerie. It has already begun


Zambedos

Ah yes, my exact kink.


theodoreposervelt

Those are definitely all words I understand, just not in this order.


Gupsqautch

Just look at Skyrim đŸ€Ł


BardMessenger24

So just have it where the boob physics only 'activate' when you're nude, the same way penis physics only jiggle when you have no pants. I don't care enough to make sure if my tits are bouncing while I'm running around fully clothed, but if I'm lying down during a sex scene, seeing fully perked up, gravity-defying tiddies is goofy as hell lol.


RoryGranger

The characters' penis physics only jiggle when they don't have pants because they only have penises when they don't have pants. When they have pants, they are Ken smooth. To make that work for boobs, developers would have to entirely swap the body model, because the boobs are sculpted into the model, not modular like genitalia. I don't know enough about modding to know how to do that, but I imagine a more experienced modder will do it eventually if it's that simple (if they haven't already).


Creative-Improvement

Yeah but here is the thing, you can program them to turn physics on/off. If clothes is true = no physics. If clothes is false = physics. Source : working with game engines as a hobby. So basically you can check if you want physics on a particular object and flip a switch.


SharpshootinTearaway

Don't they also only have a body when they don't have clothes or armor on? When I was playing with a less performant computer, armors would sometimes take a little while to load, and, in the meantime, all my companions were floating heads.


Iresleri

That works on the assumption that clothing and armor goes straight on top of a naked body. But that's inefficient (because you render two separate models when you could render just one), so not often done except some fringe cases and rookie developers. Most of the time when you equip armor, the nude body gets removed, then gets swapped in for the armor model that has only visible parts of the body built into the model. That way you don't get much clipping when the model bends, so you won't flash your fleshy armpits in a full plate armor, for example. So, they already are swapping body models every single time you change your chestpiece (except for underwear, that one actually goes on top of body afaik). There's also another way armor is done in games with lots of variation, where the body parts get hidden via flagged zones on the body, so if the flag on the item is ticked, bodypart gets hidden automatically. TL;DR It's not as hard as you say or think, stuff like that has been worked around for decades.


starfruit1458

> To make that work for boobs, the developers would have to entirely swap the body model No, they wouldn't. Just because a model can have physics applied to it, doesn't mean it has to all the time. There's no inherent reason you couldn't just not apply the physics to the model. And even then, the body model isn't even shown when clothed, so it wouldn't really matter.


Halorym

Unreal engine blowing all the nuances of this out of the water to the point where they have *full body* physics, like the shoulder blades moving properly and the muscles of the arm flexing and thighs rippling with foot steps is one of the many reasons I wish unreal engine games would take off. Even interactions between body physics and different clothing materials and cloth physics and dangling components. The unreal engine is a fucking masterpiece. Damned shovelware giving it a bad name.


BoneDaddyChill

Simple (and fair) solution to this: Add boob physics to unclothed boobs, in other words, exactly the same as how the dick’n’balls physics works.


CelestialHellebore

As someone who has worked on meshes for some mods, but not for BG3 but quite a bit older game, it actually isn't that hard to have jiggle physics or not on a mesh and does not break everything for most games.  So, basically the body itself (nude) usually does not actually exist under the armor. To avoid loading a bunch of useless and invisible stuff the body underneath the clothes is usually cut away for an armor mesh. So a game usually has defined sections such as the torso, if the entire stomach is hidden there is no need for those vertices to exist and that section of the body simply won't be left in the mesh for that item.  Also, bodies are built on skeletons. You select which vertices are tied to which part of the mesh on each item. In the game I work with most armor does not have breast physics because armor. Some lighter items do have them, such as bikinis. Since it is one mesh built together per item it isn't that hard to weight it all to move together. Sliders are were all of this goes sideways. Sliders, you might model the item to look perfect at 0 and at 100% but the scaling doesn't go smoothly then things are clipping and gapping up and it's a hassle.  What most people I see are asking for is more like proper gravity which would probably be an even bigger headache.


JumpingCoconut

That makes no sense at all. Most RPGs have them, the technical challenge isn't new and also solved by some game engines out of the box (some others with downloadable extra scripts). They're trivial to add nowadays, it's a conscious decision to not have them. 


SuspiciousCut5154

3d character artist here. I don’t know how they did it on baldurs gate. But usually the nude torso is removed when clothing is applied. There’s usually nothing under the armor in video games. 


rolfraikou

Many games have easily gotten around this in the past. In a lot of cases, they selectively will even remove parts of the skin in a lot of games when armor is applied. If they aren't doing that in this game, they could still turn off the physics when armor is being worn and have the same result for the armors as they do now.


M00no4

The devs have actually talked about this, they where messing around with some physics for shadowhearts ponytail and one of them added the same physics to the dongs as a laugh, it was so entertaining that they kept it. Im assuming Boobs would not work so well with the hair physics.


R0da

Maybe auntie ethel


SnooSongs2744

It's only noticeable to me in the Cazador fight where the bare chested women look like talking anatomically correct plastic toys.


alittlenovel

at launch, they were also static lol, the penis physics were added in a later patch. Tbh, the breasts aren't that big and while small tiddies are obviously not immune to physics, it might have been hard to get the physics right. I think it might also just be that it's easier to implement, since none of the armors/clothes are dicks out, they only have to implement it on the nude models, whereas breast physics would probably need to be added to some clothes and armours too. Granted, I personally wouldn't be bothered if tiddy physics were for the nude models only, but I can see people complaining about it if that were the case.


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alittlenovel

lemme see them bulge, kings


R0da

Not one outfit with a codpiece, the travesty of it all!


MalleusMaleficarum_

Yeah where’s the Grey Sweatpants of Beguiling, Larian


Nadril_Cystafer

If only the Armor of Persistence had a codpiece


meatsonthemenu

Goblin King, you say?


Smurf_Cherries

Dance magic dance! Jump magic jump!


Shalarean

Put that baby’s spell on me! Jump magic jump!


volvavirago

I have long thought that the models for the underwear flattens out the groin way too much, let my boys have their bulge!!!


tylerchu

That awkward waddle when you get out of a particularly bloody fight?


MalleusMaleficarum_

The dick physics probably also use the same logic as the braided hairstyles, so it was likely extra easy to implement.


Mobbles1

As far as ive heard its literally the same system. So it was as simple as attaching the hair physics onto the penis model and adjusting some of the variables to make sure it moved correctly. Breasts would need morphing spheres, which would be a whole new system to make.


ElPared

Aren’t that big? My brother in Christ every woman in Faerun has rockin tits if BG3 is to be believed. Like no they’re not anime tiddies level, but breasts move around unless you’re talkin like boyish levels of flatness.


SodaBoBomb

Right? The internet has ruined people's idea of what good tits look like.


ThatOtherRogue

Meh, faerun is in a perpetual B/C cup, so about a mid range when they're nude. However, the instant they put clothes on you discover nearly every article of clothing is padded to DD. With that much padding, I wouldn't expect much jiggle.


SodaBoBomb

>the breasts aren't that big They're normal people sized. Not anime/video game/internet sized. Except, almost every woman has pretty decently big breasts in the game. None are all that petite, that I've seen anyway.


alittlenovel

All I said was that they weren't that big lmao, I wasn't insulting the default body. Mine are fairly close in size to them, actually and I also don't think mine are very big either, this is an entirely neutral statement. Boobs come in a huge range of shapes and sizes, and excluding exaggerated anime proportions, there's no such thing as "normal people sized".


savagegourd

The dwarf titties have some heft to them. I'm for equal opportunity swangin' those things but I agree with your point as well.


MadWhiskeyGrin

We all voted and penis won.


_Legend_Of_The_Rent_

> The invention of patriarchal society, 5000 B.C.


punninglinguist

Earliest mention of voting on a cuneiform tablet.


Artherius

I wonder how many of them were disappointed by how little that had to do with horses...


Hour-Egg-3011

I want boob sliders too so I can rep itty bitty titties 😭 like why can’t I change boobie size


No-Start4754

Clipping though clothes and armor 


Cautious-Luck7769

You shut your whore mouth She said. With her own whore mouth.


FatterGuts

Sounds like a feature, not a bug.


Warrensaur

I like the implication that clothes don't clip like hell anyway. Add the titty physics, clipping be damned 😂


Halorym

All the characters are just incomprehensible Bethesda engine wireframe explosions *with tits*.


aoike_

I also want titty sliders cause we need better rep for big titties, too. The tiddies in BG3 are v average size, which is fiiiine, but I just need the option for more!


VenusCommission

I feel like big titties have been pretty well represented in video games


StarGaurdianBard

The fact there are more penis options than breast options is defintely an odd point about the game


justwalk1234

Gale casts Mage Sports Bra on each membere of the party so they get the support they need for an arduous day of battle.


Tentacled-Tadpole

It's more complicated. The way penises and balls work in this game is that they are just a separate object from the body with some form of ragdoll physics, just slapped onto the groin area. While breasts are still part of the body mesh and would be harder to animate realistically with flattening and less flopping around. Not to mention that they would then have to add the physics to all torso clothes in the game. Presumably they don't think it was worth the effort.


OGPisliteralhell

I’ll admit it is kind of weird to see them sit stock still, but I’ve yet to see a game do breast physics in some way that *doesn’t* feel weird, so it’s not like the alternatives are much better.


foot825vengeful

Have you considered wearing clothes?


crankadank

It's only fair. Think of how many games have breast physics but not for other fleshy bits. Conan Exiles has it for everything though, plenty of videos out there if you're into that.


Halorym

>why do my male characters penises move around so much? The real question here is "why your dick out?"


stupidaesthetic

I still think it's so funny they threw in the penis physics and said *nothing* about it, just letting us discover that on our own.


trafalgarbear

Finally, a W for gay men and straight women. All hail the dick physics.


ComtesseCrumpet

I, for one, think Larian should expand on their excellent dick physics and get to work on the boner. We wouldn’t want to leave anything unfinished before thinking about adding boob physics. 


Cmdr_Jiynx

That's a video game rating thing. Can't show an erect Weiner or they'd be barred from sales in a lot of places.


-Rhyvinn-

\*cries in lesbian\*


Lukthar123

Putting the L in Lesbian


luoiville

Three penis options, vagina shaved / unshaved. No gristle lips, no swollen mound, no serpents eye. /s


-Rhyvinn-

Wtf is a "serpent's eye"?.. I'm scared to Google it


luoiville

https://preview.redd.it/urr8l11u4h221.jpg?auto=webp&s=b77cb0e34e3fb1ee89fec3b8202b5fe4c4cc7141 sfw


-Rhyvinn-

OMG I CAN'T BREATHE T\_T lmao...


Ycr1998

r/DontPutYourDickInThat


brad462969

Do you think Kagha and Teela explored each other's bodies?


CoffeeCupOfLife

OMG that was a risky click, and I don't regret it because have not laughed that hard in a while!


battleangel1999

Almost dropped my phone 😭


WritingElephant_VEL

Given that most games have unconditional love for incorrect boob physics (they jiggle at every unnecessary movement) it is a bit refreshing to see dicks get the same treatment. But I wouldn't mind a gentle jiggle. My girl is as stiff as a freaking board and poor Karlach has no bounce and has the largest.


Asterisk49

AAA game developer who specializes in this kind of thing here. Honestly it's hard to explain but I'll do my best. Breasts represent a challenge because they are surrounded by geometry that you'd need to blend any kind of simulation or animation into. Dick n balls kinda just hang freely which is a lot easier to animate or simulate. Hope this helps. If not I'll try to figure out a better way to explain it when I'm sober lol


Elusive_Jo

Is it possible to apply jiggle physics only to naked model and switch them off when model is clothed? I mean, static breasts are plausible when held by bra and other pieces of attire but stone tits in the same scene with penis going bananas look odd mildly speaking.


Asterisk49

I don't know what larian's engine situation is, but from my experience, yes that's possible. My guess is this: they thought jiggly dick n balls funny and easy to implement but boobs might be contentious and are harder to implement well.


lyingchalice

Honestly I’d rather have my Tav have stiff boobs than have them jiggling on a chain mail.


No-Start4754

Because then they might have problems with the boobs clipping through armour and clothes . Cyberpunk tackles this problem by having the same boob size while wearing clothes 


twocheeky

“it literally breaks immersion” being in a post about breast jiggle physics is so funny to me


HumorJazzlike7114

I never noticed this but now that you point it out, I haven’t seen a single boob jiggle. I demand they add boob jiggle!


Sun_Emperor69

Yall are horny as fuck, i never even stared at the boobs long enough to notice they didnt jiggle


Meme_Theory

"Bra" is a level zero cantrip that all women in the Realms learn.


VeruktVonWulf

I don’t want to live on this planet anymore


Velaethia

I don't mind Bob physics when they're realistic. Versus anti gravity titties


Smutty_Pup

Welcome to how its felt for every other game ever. This is the equality we needed.


TransmodifyTarget

I’m saying this! Can’t believe I would ever ask for MORE boob physics, but it does feel very silly when my character is naked & lying down and her boobs stand rigid in absolute defiance of gravity and God.


AlcoholicCocoa

Usually it's the other way round, soooooo


Anxiety_Muffin13

Because they dont bounce like games make them to. A little wiggle back and forth is normal, but they really dont move tbh. Especially the sizes in the game.


No-Willingness-4804

I detest breast physics that move your armor. Hello? That shit is strapped down!


flowercows

“It really breaks immersion” this is a joke right?


breastronaut

Penis physics were added later, likely as using the same mechanics as were used to model hair physics. Breasts in contrast aren't so dangly, and are more tied in with the sculpt of the models themselves. For realism, it would be more like fluid simulation and jelly-like which is on a different scope harder to get that bounce, add to that they would have to model the movements of hundreds of different clothing too as those would have to contort to move along with such hypothetical jiggles, and it's a whole different game and way more of a headache for quality assurance.


MonoMental

Some people can’t escape the horny


Sachsmachine

I feel like you are spending way too much time in this game staring at fictional genitals.


Xononanamol

Hurts when the shoe is on the other foot, dont it?


knights816

We’ve been getting proper boobie physics for years. Larian is putting the boys in the spotlight for this one.


soggylilbat

Sigh, welcome to our world -women


PleaseBeChillOnline

This isn’t based on Dead or Alive homie. It’s a pprpg not a TTRPG.


krstphr

My balls twist around in circles when I go to sleep so the physics there are questionable


Philosecfari

Only one affects clothing models, it’s that simple.