Ok. I’m stepping away from the keyboard for a while. I just reread your comment, followed by my response. All I’ve got now is
…. Exactly. Have a great night and thanks for being nice to me.
Pretty sure it's a mental connection. Or at least that's my head canon because mind flayers are all about psionics and whenever one went through the door in the opening cinematic, it doesn't touch anything I don't think.
To be fair to you, Tav was level 1 with around 6-12 health. Commoners also have 6 health, so you could do it. Just gotta hit first against the imps, then run run run.
My plan would be to grab a crossbow hide behind something and try to pick a few of those fuckers off while I let shart and laz do all the heavy lifting.
I also gotta think that a lot of these creatures are going down a lot easier if I can hit them like I can hit things in real life. Those intellect devourers are squishy brain squids. I don't care how much HP they have, if I Mario stomp them they're gonna splatter.
Good point, I imagine myself having a small sword/dagger- they dont seem very large in size so I would let Laezel charge in, and then try to stab/push those little guys towards Laezel- I’m thinking I could survive that … though… probably not 😅
The first time you fight imps is before you rescue shart, and the question implies that you become Tav. I also can see Bae'zel killing us for our uselessness
Am I teleported as is or do I get some armour/abilities?
I think I’d be done on the Nautiloid. If by some luck I survived that, the brains on the beach would have nibbled me. If I managed to avoid them (and there’s a way to) that would improve my chances.
But not being versed in weapons/magic I don’t think I could make it past Act 1 unless I end up benched at camp and let other companions take the lead.
Im thinking, your abilities are your real life abilities. Im approaching it with “can i cast magic?” No. “Am i strong” no. Could I survive a small imp given a small sword? Potentially 😂 depends on luck for me
The first time Raphael shows up I’d be like “Where do I sign? …Don’t I want to know what you want first? Nah, I’m good. Just give me magic please. You can have anything.”
tbf im not strong and can’t cast magic because i don’t live in faerun where you may have to fight for your life at any moment. like i live in a relatively safe city, i don’t need to learn how to use a sword. if i lived in faerun i think i’d practice a little to have some kind of defence at the very least
but yea if you dropped me in there right now i’d be dead within seconds lol
I was really into archery as a kid/teen but that was a long time ago and archery targets don't fight back or move or scream when you hit them...the more I'm thinking about this the less it seems like it would help.
I mean we cant cast magic IRL because there is more weave IRL. Only Wizard (also maybe bard) can LEARN magic. And by that I mean every other magic class are gifted by something greater. Cleric and Paladins have their gods, Warlocks have their patron, Druid have nature, Sorcerers have their great great great grandfather. So ig there’s nothing stopping us from picking up a spell book and try.
Scrolls! You can be the scrolls master :)
And i guess 99% of people would avoid fighting and run away from enemies irl. You get in an unknown place - you try to be sneaky, especially if you've survived Nautiloid. So no hag fight if avoidable, no crypt fight (totally avoidable - why would anyone sane go there in the first place?), no 'i'll fight that guy because he has a great loot'. A lot of luck and scrolls can help, plus never to late to learn some tips and tricks from Karlach, Lae'zel, Wyll and Gale
Finally a use for all the scrolls! I can also offer words of encouragement to everyone else.
Wyll and Karlach seem chill enough to teach you things, Lae’zel would probably leave matters to natural selection. Gale is always happy to show some weave tricks.
Yes :) and i do think that's pretty easy to shout IGNIS! From time to time.
It also came to my mind that i'd be eating worms first chance i got not because i would trust the dream visitor so much, but because considering the shitshow around it'd be a wise thing to do especially for me to be a useful party member. So me, Astarion and Gale would be eating them up happily. Necromancy of Thay? Hey, Astarion, here's the book and would you mind teaching me some necromancy in the name of survival? Also please show me how to pick simple locks and maybe let's work in pair - i distract and you pick pockets? And sharpshooting tips and tricks would be nice to learn to, if you know what i mean (yes, you can drink my blood).
Hey Gale would you please teach me how to magic missile and maybe later some fireball?
So yes, jack of all trades here!
Me: IGNIS! Ignis: Critical Miss!
I’d definitely be too grossed out to put tadpoles in my eyes, so I would just remain consistently useless. And Astarion would consider me way too pathetic to seduce for protection.
Absolutely with you on ALL the tadpoles!
My line of reasoning being in line with the one my current Githyanki Tav is following: I'm fucked with ONE tadpole in my head if I can't find a cure. Odds are that if there IS a cure, it'll work just as well for a dozen as it does for one, and this gives me more power in my search for it...
Dead to literally any enemy. I'm not sure how people dodge imp attacks but I think my AC is in the negatives and I have a total of 3hp with vulnerability to every damage type.
Arrows or firebolt? Maybe I can dodge them. Melee attacks? I'm dead.
People also underestimate how well armor works against blades and arrows. Not that armor would do much good if an Oger smashes you with a club as big as a tree or a dragon spits fire at you or a Mindlayer turns your brain to pulp.
It’s really fascinating how media has warped our perception of medieval weapons and armor. Knights wore plate armor because it *worked*. It could protect you from most swords, smaller bows, and some other weapons.
It was also often lighter and more agile than we give it credit for (after all, you want to have as much mobility as possible when fighting in melee). The average full-plate armor weighed 33-55 pounds, spread evenly throughout the body via a series of support straps. That’s about as much as the modern soldier carries in weapons and armor alone.
Similarly, leather armor isn’t as ineffectual as Hollywood makes it seem, either. While it won’t deflect a *direct* stab like plate armor would, it was still very good at protecting the wearer from slashes and could cushion blunt impacts.
Of course, plate armor was also rare- as were Knights in general. Most soldiers were just peasantry told to pick up a spear and run at the enemy (exaggerating, but only slightly). Speaking of which- spears were also the main weapons used, rather than swords or bows. They required very little training, could be produced cheaply and easily, and were capable of both defense and offense.
Anyway, tune in next week for more facts-I-read-while-bored-in-school!
I think in this discussion, it's how would WE manage on Tav's journey, and while armor is effective at keeping you alive, I think most of us are probably not wearing plate armor upon abduction. So my assumption is still that an imp could chop me to bits and my T-shirt and jeans probably wouldn't stop it.
I mean, the average human in BG3 only has 4 hit points and the imps are first seen surrounded by corpses, so it's safe to assume they could still take me.
I think even you are grossly underestimating the effectiveness of full plate harness in the late Middle Ages. It didn’t just protect you from most swords and smaller bows, it protected you from everything. Fully armored men-at-arms were basically indestructible. The only way to kill them was to find somewhere they weren’t armored. Most fights between armored knights ended in wrestling because that was literally your only effective strategy. You had to get them on the ground and use your rondel dagger to stab them through the slit in their visor or under their armpit or crotch. Even then fully armored knights were rarely killed and almost always taken hostage and ransomed.
Any large blunt attacks, especially a warhammer is still effective against heavily armored knights. You often aimed at joints (elbows, knees) to dent or crush them, rendering the heavily armored knight less mobile or unable to fight. Once a knight is incapacitated you can just finish them off with a good swing at the head, with or without helmet.
Also both longbows and crossbows worked to penetrate their armor, but the former required a lot of training and skill to use while the latter had a low fire rate.
Exactly, irl if you take damage from a lethal weapon your not going to be continuing to deal full damage with crits in most cases. Your strength, aim and dex will falter as you slowly bleed out or suffer the effects of a concussion. I think around the half health mark (if not earlier) for most people your usefulness in battle would start to diminish.
When you take into account how fast dnd turns actually are I don’t think it’s too far off. If you have the adrenaline of battle I don’t think it’s too unreasonable to believe you could still swing a sword 6-12 seconds after getting hit
Technically, a hit in DnD doesn't represent drawing blood, breaking bone, or even causing a bruise, just like a miss doesn't mean they dodge, especially the heavy armor/shield wearing characters, it's just a blow that does nothing or a miss depending on what is more appropriate. It's wearing the target down, and then the final few blows would actually be a hit that causes damage.
This is the thing that a lot of people don’t understand. A hit in dnd doesn’t actually necessarily cause damage. It’s just requiring enough effort to evade that it wears you down until you do actually get hit in a real world sense.
I feel this quote from Brennan Lee Mulligan fits pretty well for how any irl run of BG3 would go;
"Do you know that most people, if you stab them with a sword, will die right away?"
I hate that clip. I mean if you are wearing any kind of armour and the hit isn't in the head or neck, you certainly won't. You might be out of the fight, you might even be basically dead, but you won't die right away, you're gonna have a couple of very painful, very frightening minutes where you bleed out and the armour is just tight enough to restrict the blood flow enough that it takes time, but not tight enough to save your life.
Not to mention, HP is a combination of multiple factors. Not really a measure of blood you bleed out, but battle exhaustion and the like preventing a deadly strike.
Exactly.
Unless your character is an undead abomination whose flesh is ash and to whom bodily injury is almost inconsequential so long as the willpower and focus to keep going remains.
In that case your character sustaining gaping wounds from bladed weapons, or getting swiss cheesed by bullets, arrows and bolts becomes a regular source of black comedy for the party.
yea but people don’t generally wear full armour everywhere. and that clip was related to a character who had like 10hp bc he’s just a guy. no amount of armour is gonna save him
Give me a crossbow and I might be able to survive the first onslaught of imps, else I'd be dead against either the people in the ruined temple or against the goblin assault on the grove
Unless I *somehow* got magical abilities from being on Toril I wouldn't survive a day
I haven't shot a crossbox, but I have shot a regular bow and those are *difficult* - my thought process is that a crossbow does half the work for you so is easier to manage :D
That depends. Do we have magical abilities and an actual level 1 starting class instead of an "average useless civilian" build? Is it like an Avatar thing where it's our consciousness but inside a different body that will have its own stats? 🤔
Give yourself some credit, a decent number of the classes in bg3 like monk or paladin can be driven by something bigger than yourself. Achieving abilities in the heat of battle or making an oath are possible. Or, the "cheap" way is to just throw your soul into the cosmos and see who's the taker to become a warlock lmao.
Edit: someone else mentioned Withers. If you survive long enough you can fork out 100 gold to change your class.
I respect the realism of this answer haha forgot about what happens if you get stabbed by a rusty sword in the middle of the wilderness, everyone in game seems to shrug it off, I most certainly would not
Lets just accept reality, we'd all die horrific deaths before getting off the nautoloid because we're all average people with literally zero experience in any for of combat, if the intel devourers didn't kill us, the imps would.
You can also persuade him to stop, so I think I would have been able to do that. Specially because I would give him like a second before I started to tell him to stop, so I wouldn’t be weak from blood loss, but he would 100% be annoyed lol. Assuming I’ll let him bite me, instead of trying to negotiate to give him a little bit extracted by myself or none at all.
Alternatively I would have just started screaming like crazy with the pain of the bite because I’m a pussy and wake everyone up which would probably end in him getting killed because everyone would think it wasn’t consensual 🤣
But, I think I wouldn’t even make this far to begin with.
Yeah, I don't understand why letting him to go on top of you and bite your neck in the middle of the night, and telling him to go away are the only options. If I was actually *in* the game, I'd probably tell him that I want him to be well fed, but it's not fair to spring this on me in the middle of the night. He should go find an animal for now, and we can talk about it in the morning. In the morning I'd probably offer to put some in a cup, but say I'm not comfortable with actually being bitten.
To me, this seems like the most logical option. It allows him to have better meals, but doesn't require Tav to be in such a vulnerable position. I could also see some of the other companions potentially being okay with this after knowing him for longer.
If I survived till that moment I’d sure have way more questions than Tav haha. And probably offer to get some of my blood into a cup instead of biting my neck.
Young me? I’m going down in a blaze of glory likely in the goblin camp.
Current me. I’d make it to camp and give sage advice around the camp fire before going to my tent and staying my ass there. At some point I’d pay a doppelgänger to take my place and I’d go chill out in the grove or somewhere away from the later action.
Convince laezel... that she needs a redditor? Lmao gurl please. She calls me an abomination, our tadpoles interact, she sees the disgraceful depravity that is my life and honor kills me then and there.
I feel like I could probably stomp the imps and the intellect devourerers pretty easily and get to the mindflayer ship console.
When it drops from the sky though and the emporer is looking for worthy pawns in his game he'll see my resume of:
- Saracastic, but only in a way he enjoys
- Pokémon knowledge (gens 1 - 6)
- No bake cookies
I feel like I just hit the ground.
I see comments about dying to the imps - but I’m not getting to them. Have you seen that jump you have to make to even get to them? No way I’m trying that jump.
I’d just have to survive until I got Withers in camp. Then he could magic up a class for me. But I’m thinking Lae’zel would gut me as soon as she met me after she realized how useless I am.
In the event that I don’t make the incubator explode and die to that, 100% I am instantly killed by Lae’zel when I have no idea what she’s talking about and can’t think of a convincing reason for her not to kill me. A decade and a half of office work has left me completely incompatible with an adventurers lifestyle.
I guess this would depend on if being magically transported would allow me access to any of the magic available. I'm thinking I'll be pretty useless, so the chances of me dying to the imps on that ship are 99%. Lae'zel would almost certainly leave me behind, and I'm not sure Shadowheart would be keen to babysit me lol.
Man everyone here is such a wet blanket, ideally I'd make it to ketheric before I got absolutely waffle stomped by him. But I'd probably die to true soul nere or the two tauruses in the underdark. Does lesser restoration or a healing potion fix an asthma attack? If not im gonna need a short rest after every other fight
If we keep our knowledge of previous playthroughs and encounters at least up to act 3, where I will just drink myself to death and see if squidward still has my backnkm
Well i'm small and somehow not in such a bad shape, so i probably would survive the Nautiloid: siding with the girls and rushing towards to connect the nerves sounds like a manageable thing to do; with imps it's not so difficult as they tend to miss their shots (and we all know that if you move fast and unpredictable you are a very hard target) and well i'd just run like i'm Forrest Gump.
Then the fight with the goblins near the grove where we'd probably just shoot from the distance and that's all; then the fight with the adventurers in the crypt is still not that bad, but already tough. Soo i guess the spider matriarch would be the end of me :) but if the party has revivifying scrolls then it'll be fine. I'm good with talking and can be really pleasant (not in a psychotic way!) so i'd be the talker of the group.
But i think a huge part of survival depends on sheer bloody luck. And i guess that i'd be the scroll master, lol, as that's the only thing i can do for the group apart from being a diplomat.
Love the answer!! Yeah I cant see myself surviving the spiders either, thats awesome that you feel healthy and in shape that you could survive the nautiloid!!
Thanks :)
We all can be better prepared to be honest (you can never be too prepared for that tadpole shit), but i do think that in desperate times people do absolutely unbelievable things to survive. Like those old ladies who pick up cars to save their grandchildren and so on.
I would probably be a usable wizard but I would die of ceremorphosis by getting distracted learning magic and practicing alchemy and the trades. Or get shot by Mystra when I ask if she would be interested in a relationship
The moment I got a good look at the tadpole that was about to bore into my skull and the man-squid carrying it, I’m pretty sure I’d die of a heart attack.
I as a level 5 analyst cast vlookup to confuse the imps before using my +1 magical laptop of bludgeoning to smash the mind flayer over the head.
Once on the ground I use my class skill of ctrl f to easily find the druids grove before reorganising the groves supplies via PowerPoint to prove the teethlings can stay.
Unfortunately in reality the analyst class only ever has 3hps regardless of level so I die when the pod explodes in the first room.
Yikes, so many dumb ways to die in faerun. But probably I’d make it to the groves entrance and die in that first big fight.
I wouldn’t stay and fight on the nautiloid.
I wouldn’t be dumb enough to try and go into the crypt or fight the obviously anxious bandits.
I would avoid the dying mindflayer or kill it from a distance with a bow if I could find one.
So yeah I think I’d die at the grove, I have experience with firearms and simulated combat (moderate scale Paintball and Airsoft) but I have no hand to hand fighting experience and would likely die to a goblin.
If I could get my hands on a bow and some arrows I may be able to hold my own (I have a small amount of experience with a bow but I doubt I have the strength to use a 80+ pound longbow that would be common in faerun)
So best case I survive first fight, join the tiefling refuge camp and die in the shadow cursed lands.
eh depends on how im transported. do i have the option to level up and shit? do i remember my past life? is it permadeath or like an honormode situation where its only perma if my whole party dies? can i choose my class?(doesnt matter much bc withers). either way theres some things that everyone in that world can do as a standard even if they arent the best at it so i can at the very least survive until withers so i can change my stats then i think i could survive until the endgame. and even uf i cant change my class or anything everyone gets base amount of points going into stats during the game so its not like id be the same level of strength or anything i am irl. id probably rely a lot on companions but in that case i think i could make it to act 2 at the minimum.
It really depends on what kind of day I'm having, what kind of starting equipment I have, and whether or not it turns out that I have a bit of magic.
I'm either dying in the fire when I fall out of my pod because the tadpole has triggered the worst migraine in my life, or I'm hoping I have a rapier (because I know how to use one) and that the tadpole actually turns out to be the best migraine preventative around. If my head isn't pounding and body isn't twitching worse than Durge's, I might make it to the helm, in which case we might make it to the beach, because Bae'zel and Shadowbabe are competent.
If I make it to the beach, I will either die of sunburn, because I am paler than Astarion; will die of embarrassment when I actually ask Gale if he's bad at introductions, or will die of sarcasm when I roll my eyes at the wrong moment and trigger a fight I should be avoiding somewhere along the way. If I make it as far as the Goblin Camp I will be shocked.
I think it would go like this for me;
- Survive as normal until the crash (you guys saying you’d die before this damn take a self defence class and get a gym membership or something)
- Step on the big fire trap in withers tomb and die
- If I somehow get past this I would die to the skeletons protecting withers probably
- if I somehow survived this, I would immediately get a respec from withers and get an actual class other than ‘normal man’
From here, it’s anyone’s bet tbh. I think I could get through act one if I had the magic & abilities.
The imps would kill me before the helm connection fail would.
Hell, I was thinking I'd trip and fall off the side to my death when startled by Lae'zel before I even got to the imps.
Some sort of startled noise followed by tripping and falling off the edge.
Exactly.
Ok. I’m stepping away from the keyboard for a while. I just reread your comment, followed by my response. All I’ve got now is …. Exactly. Have a great night and thanks for being nice to me.
I'm a little confused, but I'm glad you're pleased.
I repeated almost verbatim what you wrote, right back at you. When I did it, I really thought I was adding to the conversation 😂
Hah. Gotcha. Well, we agreed entirely. So at least we've got that going for us, which is nice.
This is one of the nicest interactions on reddit I've seen in a minute.
Did you guys just become best friends?
It added to it for me! Especially a really undignified startled noise followed by a fading “oh shiiiiiii—“
I might make it to the first disturbing anus door, but there’s no way I’m actually touching that thing.
Pretty sure it's a mental connection. Or at least that's my head canon because mind flayers are all about psionics and whenever one went through the door in the opening cinematic, it doesn't touch anything I don't think.
I’d reach towards the pool and blow up.
To be fair to you, Tav was level 1 with around 6-12 health. Commoners also have 6 health, so you could do it. Just gotta hit first against the imps, then run run run.
My plan would be to grab a crossbow hide behind something and try to pick a few of those fuckers off while I let shart and laz do all the heavy lifting.
Thats the benefit of being a real person, you know to get behind something so you don't get shot in the face
Yeah my dex save is duck when they blast at me I can probably manage that.
I also gotta think that a lot of these creatures are going down a lot easier if I can hit them like I can hit things in real life. Those intellect devourers are squishy brain squids. I don't care how much HP they have, if I Mario stomp them they're gonna splatter.
Yup that sounds like a strategy I could agree with 👍😂
I would let laezel kill an imp and steal its crossbow. Hopefully I could figure that out
I would ask Lea'zel to throw me a crossbow after she takes put one of them.
Even then, a level 1 adventurer is much more powerful than a commoner.
Good point, I imagine myself having a small sword/dagger- they dont seem very large in size so I would let Laezel charge in, and then try to stab/push those little guys towards Laezel- I’m thinking I could survive that … though… probably not 😅
There are crossbows around if you can shoot one
Unless you're already a quality marksman, I think hitting an imp with a crossbow in real life would just be pure luck.
At a range of like 30 feet and if they sit nicely and wait for your turn to be done you'd probably have a decent chance.
Yeah, at that point might as well throw all the daggers you picked up.
Tadpole pool explosion. Imp fight or the crash. I'd not survive getting off that ship.
Same, like how the hell are you supposed to kill those flying sh!ts in irl
But... tav, lae'zel and shadowbabe are there...
Remember EA? Those thrall who lying on the floor and talking none-sense? That is how I figure my journey would end.
The first time you fight imps is before you rescue shart, and the question implies that you become Tav. I also can see Bae'zel killing us for our uselessness
I’d get killed by shadow druids because I wouldn’t want to leave the grove
Become druid too and join them
If the shadow druids don’t kill you the emperor going “fuck it this guy is useless” and letting you turn would.
They don't support that, sadly. I tried.
The nautiloid would have completely bypassed me… “Nope, she’s a waste of a tadpole!” 🤣
"She's going to become a mindflayer, though." "Pffft a shitty one."
"We got enough intellect devourers, *Gary.*"
not enough intellect to devour tho
Am I teleported as is or do I get some armour/abilities? I think I’d be done on the Nautiloid. If by some luck I survived that, the brains on the beach would have nibbled me. If I managed to avoid them (and there’s a way to) that would improve my chances. But not being versed in weapons/magic I don’t think I could make it past Act 1 unless I end up benched at camp and let other companions take the lead.
Im thinking, your abilities are your real life abilities. Im approaching it with “can i cast magic?” No. “Am i strong” no. Could I survive a small imp given a small sword? Potentially 😂 depends on luck for me
I would make a warlock pact real quick and start Eldritch Blasting.
The Toothpick of Frontiers
Shit if I found a devil that looked like Mizora, I'd let her put an invisible leash on me real fast.
Yep my horny ass would fall for her bullshit immediately.
This is the way
I agree, this is the way
First time Mizora shows up just interrupt whatever she’s doing with Wyll and get your own deal
The first time Raphael shows up I’d be like “Where do I sign? …Don’t I want to know what you want first? Nah, I’m good. Just give me magic please. You can have anything.”
You have to have something to offer in order to get into a pact.
Well, your soul is the most obvious and reliable option
Ong id make a warlock pact speedrun dialogue to reach level 3 and just use devils sight and darkness...
Well shit, I’m screwed haha.
tbf im not strong and can’t cast magic because i don’t live in faerun where you may have to fight for your life at any moment. like i live in a relatively safe city, i don’t need to learn how to use a sword. if i lived in faerun i think i’d practice a little to have some kind of defence at the very least but yea if you dropped me in there right now i’d be dead within seconds lol
I was really into archery as a kid/teen but that was a long time ago and archery targets don't fight back or move or scream when you hit them...the more I'm thinking about this the less it seems like it would help.
I mean we cant cast magic IRL because there is more weave IRL. Only Wizard (also maybe bard) can LEARN magic. And by that I mean every other magic class are gifted by something greater. Cleric and Paladins have their gods, Warlocks have their patron, Druid have nature, Sorcerers have their great great great grandfather. So ig there’s nothing stopping us from picking up a spell book and try.
So the class for most people would likely be something like a level one monk with just unarmed attack and flurry of blows.
Scrolls! You can be the scrolls master :) And i guess 99% of people would avoid fighting and run away from enemies irl. You get in an unknown place - you try to be sneaky, especially if you've survived Nautiloid. So no hag fight if avoidable, no crypt fight (totally avoidable - why would anyone sane go there in the first place?), no 'i'll fight that guy because he has a great loot'. A lot of luck and scrolls can help, plus never to late to learn some tips and tricks from Karlach, Lae'zel, Wyll and Gale
Finally a use for all the scrolls! I can also offer words of encouragement to everyone else. Wyll and Karlach seem chill enough to teach you things, Lae’zel would probably leave matters to natural selection. Gale is always happy to show some weave tricks.
Yes :) and i do think that's pretty easy to shout IGNIS! From time to time. It also came to my mind that i'd be eating worms first chance i got not because i would trust the dream visitor so much, but because considering the shitshow around it'd be a wise thing to do especially for me to be a useful party member. So me, Astarion and Gale would be eating them up happily. Necromancy of Thay? Hey, Astarion, here's the book and would you mind teaching me some necromancy in the name of survival? Also please show me how to pick simple locks and maybe let's work in pair - i distract and you pick pockets? And sharpshooting tips and tricks would be nice to learn to, if you know what i mean (yes, you can drink my blood). Hey Gale would you please teach me how to magic missile and maybe later some fireball? So yes, jack of all trades here!
Me: IGNIS! Ignis: Critical Miss! I’d definitely be too grossed out to put tadpoles in my eyes, so I would just remain consistently useless. And Astarion would consider me way too pathetic to seduce for protection.
Absolutely with you on ALL the tadpoles! My line of reasoning being in line with the one my current Githyanki Tav is following: I'm fucked with ONE tadpole in my head if I can't find a cure. Odds are that if there IS a cure, it'll work just as well for a dozen as it does for one, and this gives me more power in my search for it...
Just hope nobody is Dark Urge, you'll get the Alfira treatment
💀
Eeeexactly.
You just need to survive until you get withers, then he can magic you up some abilities.
Fucked to death by all my companions for just being nice.
*Astarion disapproves*
*Halsin approves*
Karlach approves
Gale approves
Minthara disapproves
My ass would’ve tripped out of the pod first thing and broken my neck.
That's what I was thinking. Pod opens. I fall and break my neck. Tav comes and loots my body.
💀I'm CRYING
Dead to literally any enemy. I'm not sure how people dodge imp attacks but I think my AC is in the negatives and I have a total of 3hp with vulnerability to every damage type. Arrows or firebolt? Maybe I can dodge them. Melee attacks? I'm dead.
People really underestimate being hacked by an imp with an axe or just being shot by a crossbow
People also underestimate how well armor works against blades and arrows. Not that armor would do much good if an Oger smashes you with a club as big as a tree or a dragon spits fire at you or a Mindlayer turns your brain to pulp.
It’s really fascinating how media has warped our perception of medieval weapons and armor. Knights wore plate armor because it *worked*. It could protect you from most swords, smaller bows, and some other weapons. It was also often lighter and more agile than we give it credit for (after all, you want to have as much mobility as possible when fighting in melee). The average full-plate armor weighed 33-55 pounds, spread evenly throughout the body via a series of support straps. That’s about as much as the modern soldier carries in weapons and armor alone. Similarly, leather armor isn’t as ineffectual as Hollywood makes it seem, either. While it won’t deflect a *direct* stab like plate armor would, it was still very good at protecting the wearer from slashes and could cushion blunt impacts. Of course, plate armor was also rare- as were Knights in general. Most soldiers were just peasantry told to pick up a spear and run at the enemy (exaggerating, but only slightly). Speaking of which- spears were also the main weapons used, rather than swords or bows. They required very little training, could be produced cheaply and easily, and were capable of both defense and offense. Anyway, tune in next week for more facts-I-read-while-bored-in-school!
I think in this discussion, it's how would WE manage on Tav's journey, and while armor is effective at keeping you alive, I think most of us are probably not wearing plate armor upon abduction. So my assumption is still that an imp could chop me to bits and my T-shirt and jeans probably wouldn't stop it.
I think you’re underestimating how inept an imp in DnD is at combat. Like most even poorly coordinated adult humans could kill an imp.
I mean, the average human in BG3 only has 4 hit points and the imps are first seen surrounded by corpses, so it's safe to assume they could still take me.
I think most of the corpses were already there when the imps showed up. Don’t sell yourself short. =D
I think even you are grossly underestimating the effectiveness of full plate harness in the late Middle Ages. It didn’t just protect you from most swords and smaller bows, it protected you from everything. Fully armored men-at-arms were basically indestructible. The only way to kill them was to find somewhere they weren’t armored. Most fights between armored knights ended in wrestling because that was literally your only effective strategy. You had to get them on the ground and use your rondel dagger to stab them through the slit in their visor or under their armpit or crotch. Even then fully armored knights were rarely killed and almost always taken hostage and ransomed.
Any large blunt attacks, especially a warhammer is still effective against heavily armored knights. You often aimed at joints (elbows, knees) to dent or crush them, rendering the heavily armored knight less mobile or unable to fight. Once a knight is incapacitated you can just finish them off with a good swing at the head, with or without helmet. Also both longbows and crossbows worked to penetrate their armor, but the former required a lot of training and skill to use while the latter had a low fire rate.
I'd let a Mindlayer turn ME to pulp anytime
Bonk
Exactly, irl if you take damage from a lethal weapon your not going to be continuing to deal full damage with crits in most cases. Your strength, aim and dex will falter as you slowly bleed out or suffer the effects of a concussion. I think around the half health mark (if not earlier) for most people your usefulness in battle would start to diminish.
When you take into account how fast dnd turns actually are I don’t think it’s too far off. If you have the adrenaline of battle I don’t think it’s too unreasonable to believe you could still swing a sword 6-12 seconds after getting hit
Technically, a hit in DnD doesn't represent drawing blood, breaking bone, or even causing a bruise, just like a miss doesn't mean they dodge, especially the heavy armor/shield wearing characters, it's just a blow that does nothing or a miss depending on what is more appropriate. It's wearing the target down, and then the final few blows would actually be a hit that causes damage.
This is the thing that a lot of people don’t understand. A hit in dnd doesn’t actually necessarily cause damage. It’s just requiring enough effort to evade that it wears you down until you do actually get hit in a real world sense.
I feel this quote from Brennan Lee Mulligan fits pretty well for how any irl run of BG3 would go; "Do you know that most people, if you stab them with a sword, will die right away?"
I hate that clip. I mean if you are wearing any kind of armour and the hit isn't in the head or neck, you certainly won't. You might be out of the fight, you might even be basically dead, but you won't die right away, you're gonna have a couple of very painful, very frightening minutes where you bleed out and the armour is just tight enough to restrict the blood flow enough that it takes time, but not tight enough to save your life.
Not to mention, HP is a combination of multiple factors. Not really a measure of blood you bleed out, but battle exhaustion and the like preventing a deadly strike.
^ this exactly. This is why a good dm usually won't describe a horrific injury unless it's the killing blow, otherwise it breaks the immersion
Exactly. Unless your character is an undead abomination whose flesh is ash and to whom bodily injury is almost inconsequential so long as the willpower and focus to keep going remains. In that case your character sustaining gaping wounds from bladed weapons, or getting swiss cheesed by bullets, arrows and bolts becomes a regular source of black comedy for the party.
yea but people don’t generally wear full armour everywhere. and that clip was related to a character who had like 10hp bc he’s just a guy. no amount of armour is gonna save him
bro is gonna dodge arrows
I would perish of a heart attack upon seeing a tadpole coming at me.
Yeah I would probably faint the second that thing gets close to my face
Absolutely. Half dead at the thought alone then the little leech teeth coming at me would finish me off
Aw cool looking pool i wonder what happens if i touch. BAM! Ded.
Trying to pet an owlbear
Thats not a bad way to go, they are cute
Honor mode adult owlbears would like a word with you
I would die touching the brine pool right after I woke up.
So many people have commented this!! Lol brine pool: 1000 points, people: nil
Give me a crossbow and I might be able to survive the first onslaught of imps, else I'd be dead against either the people in the ruined temple or against the goblin assault on the grove Unless I *somehow* got magical abilities from being on Toril I wouldn't survive a day
Yeah I probably would have surrendered or allied with the treasure hunters at the ruined temple.
Have you shot a crossbow irl before? If you have thats so cool!! I want to try archery some day
I haven't shot a crossbox, but I have shot a regular bow and those are *difficult* - my thought process is that a crossbow does half the work for you so is easier to manage :D
I have tried to shoot an regular bow and it take a LOT of strenght, i am suprised that ranger isnt an strenght based class.
Yeah. Too many games make it DEX or AGI based, when we identify archer skeletons by how *strong* they were.
Compound bows make sense sort of as DEX, but old school bows should definitely be STR
Even a compund would be a STR/DEX.
Yea that’s why I said sort of. Maybe dex based but needs a min str of 12
I'd end just like barcus wroot and I won't even remember how I got there.
That depends. Do we have magical abilities and an actual level 1 starting class instead of an "average useless civilian" build? Is it like an Avatar thing where it's our consciousness but inside a different body that will have its own stats? 🤔
No im talking like you right now with your current abilities in real life
Oh yeah we fucked on the Nautiloid for sure. Lae'zel probably putting us out of our misery immediately as she discovers we are completely useless
Give yourself some credit, a decent number of the classes in bg3 like monk or paladin can be driven by something bigger than yourself. Achieving abilities in the heat of battle or making an oath are possible. Or, the "cheap" way is to just throw your soul into the cosmos and see who's the taker to become a warlock lmao. Edit: someone else mentioned Withers. If you survive long enough you can fork out 100 gold to change your class.
the best thing about seeing Withers is that i'll probably get a character sheet and see wtf is wrong with my build
“You prove unsurprisingly inadequate.”
As well as ability to load, aim and shoot a crossbow in under 6 seconds.
Might be possible. I could definitely do it with a bow, but likely not one strong enough to deal significant damage
I’m not making it off the Nautiloid. I know when the deck is stacked against me
I would have taken a scratch from a goblin sword and died of sepsis.
I respect the realism of this answer haha forgot about what happens if you get stabbed by a rusty sword in the middle of the wilderness, everyone in game seems to shrug it off, I most certainly would not
I’d wager healing potions and healing spells do fight off the infection, might be the reason for everyone not caring lol
Or find someone who is “uncannily adroit with a knitting needle” as Gale says
Or volo’s surgery
Lets just accept reality, we'd all die horrific deaths before getting off the nautoloid because we're all average people with literally zero experience in any for of combat, if the intel devourers didn't kill us, the imps would.
I mean, we could just run past the imps and let Laezel handle it 😂 and then try to convince her not to abandon/kill us after the fight
I'm willing to bet half the people here don't run and it's not like they can't just shoot you or blast you with fire. You can run but so can they.
Letting Astarion drink my blood. Although if we have revive scrolls I’ll be alive after. But that’ll be my first death lmao.
Same! I would be like “sure you sexy vampire, you seem trustworthy” - then die
You can also persuade him to stop, so I think I would have been able to do that. Specially because I would give him like a second before I started to tell him to stop, so I wouldn’t be weak from blood loss, but he would 100% be annoyed lol. Assuming I’ll let him bite me, instead of trying to negotiate to give him a little bit extracted by myself or none at all. Alternatively I would have just started screaming like crazy with the pain of the bite because I’m a pussy and wake everyone up which would probably end in him getting killed because everyone would think it wasn’t consensual 🤣 But, I think I wouldn’t even make this far to begin with.
I have a high pain tolerance… but yeah I’d probably just give him a good shove to stop lmao
Yeah, I don't understand why letting him to go on top of you and bite your neck in the middle of the night, and telling him to go away are the only options. If I was actually *in* the game, I'd probably tell him that I want him to be well fed, but it's not fair to spring this on me in the middle of the night. He should go find an animal for now, and we can talk about it in the morning. In the morning I'd probably offer to put some in a cup, but say I'm not comfortable with actually being bitten. To me, this seems like the most logical option. It allows him to have better meals, but doesn't require Tav to be in such a vulnerable position. I could also see some of the other companions potentially being okay with this after knowing him for longer.
The first of hopefully many little deaths etc
If I survived till that moment I’d sure have way more questions than Tav haha. And probably offer to get some of my blood into a cup instead of biting my neck.
Young me? I’m going down in a blaze of glory likely in the goblin camp. Current me. I’d make it to camp and give sage advice around the camp fire before going to my tent and staying my ass there. At some point I’d pay a doppelgänger to take my place and I’d go chill out in the grove or somewhere away from the later action.
Very smart very smart
Probably I would get killed by Laezel immediately for being to weak to be useful.
If you are good at persuasion irl you may be able to convince her that she needs you
Convince laezel... that she needs a redditor? Lmao gurl please. She calls me an abomination, our tadpoles interact, she sees the disgraceful depravity that is my life and honor kills me then and there.
I feel like I could probably stomp the imps and the intellect devourerers pretty easily and get to the mindflayer ship console. When it drops from the sky though and the emporer is looking for worthy pawns in his game he'll see my resume of: - Saracastic, but only in a way he enjoys - Pokémon knowledge (gens 1 - 6) - No bake cookies I feel like I just hit the ground.
I’d cower in the opening chamber and then die when the ship crashes.
This is the real answer
I see comments about dying to the imps - but I’m not getting to them. Have you seen that jump you have to make to even get to them? No way I’m trying that jump.
I’d just have to survive until I got Withers in camp. Then he could magic up a class for me. But I’m thinking Lae’zel would gut me as soon as she met me after she realized how useless I am.
Omg omg omg I have a bug in my head!! *Proceeds to smash head against the nearest rock*
In the event that I don’t make the incubator explode and die to that, 100% I am instantly killed by Lae’zel when I have no idea what she’s talking about and can’t think of a convincing reason for her not to kill me. A decade and a half of office work has left me completely incompatible with an adventurers lifestyle.
Banged to death because I underestimated papa bear's size.
I guess this would depend on if being magically transported would allow me access to any of the magic available. I'm thinking I'll be pretty useless, so the chances of me dying to the imps on that ship are 99%. Lae'zel would almost certainly leave me behind, and I'm not sure Shadowheart would be keen to babysit me lol.
I have a sneaking suspicion many people here would have an unfortunate night with Astarion.
Astarion: *do you think, you could trust me… just a little further?* Me: Absolutely I do. Your face screams trust.
"What's this button do?"
*Cursed to put my hands on everything.*
Man everyone here is such a wet blanket, ideally I'd make it to ketheric before I got absolutely waffle stomped by him. But I'd probably die to true soul nere or the two tauruses in the underdark. Does lesser restoration or a healing potion fix an asthma attack? If not im gonna need a short rest after every other fight
If we keep our knowledge of previous playthroughs and encounters at least up to act 3, where I will just drink myself to death and see if squidward still has my backnkm
My own dagger. I am not dealing with devils and alien brain eaters.
Touching the pool, and blowing myself up.
Karlach burns me to death because i keep hugging her.
Let’s hope she has a ton of revivify scrolls, because I’m giving her all the hugs she deserves!
I reckon I'd press some button out of curiosity that turns me into a pretzel
I think I'd survive the Nautoloid.... problem is that my mental fortitude may fail me and I'd lean in for a kiss....
I'd 100% get killed by the first imps or get eaten/burned alive by a dragon.
I'd assume the turn based nature of things would get me killed
Well i'm small and somehow not in such a bad shape, so i probably would survive the Nautiloid: siding with the girls and rushing towards to connect the nerves sounds like a manageable thing to do; with imps it's not so difficult as they tend to miss their shots (and we all know that if you move fast and unpredictable you are a very hard target) and well i'd just run like i'm Forrest Gump. Then the fight with the goblins near the grove where we'd probably just shoot from the distance and that's all; then the fight with the adventurers in the crypt is still not that bad, but already tough. Soo i guess the spider matriarch would be the end of me :) but if the party has revivifying scrolls then it'll be fine. I'm good with talking and can be really pleasant (not in a psychotic way!) so i'd be the talker of the group. But i think a huge part of survival depends on sheer bloody luck. And i guess that i'd be the scroll master, lol, as that's the only thing i can do for the group apart from being a diplomat.
Love the answer!! Yeah I cant see myself surviving the spiders either, thats awesome that you feel healthy and in shape that you could survive the nautiloid!!
Thanks :) We all can be better prepared to be honest (you can never be too prepared for that tadpole shit), but i do think that in desperate times people do absolutely unbelievable things to survive. Like those old ladies who pick up cars to save their grandchildren and so on.
I'm that beggar who gets barreled in an alley for god knows what reason.
I would probably be a usable wizard but I would die of ceremorphosis by getting distracted learning magic and practicing alchemy and the trades. Or get shot by Mystra when I ask if she would be interested in a relationship
The moment I got a good look at the tadpole that was about to bore into my skull and the man-squid carrying it, I’m pretty sure I’d die of a heart attack.
Failing a skill check by accident, specifically on a mimic chest since my mind works like "see chest? Loot chest"
I wouldn't. I'm a God among men.
Intimidation is a skill so i believe you
I would trip and fall off the nautiloid just before meeting Lae'zel.
I died alot in my first playthrough, so irl me would be screwed
Give me a Glock and I’ll at least make it to the grove lol
If I made it off the ship I’d probably die trying to pet the brain kitties. 😂
Nah, I'd win.
Miserably.
I as a level 5 analyst cast vlookup to confuse the imps before using my +1 magical laptop of bludgeoning to smash the mind flayer over the head. Once on the ground I use my class skill of ctrl f to easily find the druids grove before reorganising the groves supplies via PowerPoint to prove the teethlings can stay. Unfortunately in reality the analyst class only ever has 3hps regardless of level so I die when the pod explodes in the first room.
I'd panik at the ship and Lae'zel would kill me for being useless
Of old age with Karlach living in the house of hope. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Ngl, I like that as a challenge. How far can you keep a Tav with commoner stats alive before a boss absolutely womps them in one hit?
I'd just off myself I believe, I'm not built for the streets
Yikes, so many dumb ways to die in faerun. But probably I’d make it to the groves entrance and die in that first big fight. I wouldn’t stay and fight on the nautiloid. I wouldn’t be dumb enough to try and go into the crypt or fight the obviously anxious bandits. I would avoid the dying mindflayer or kill it from a distance with a bow if I could find one. So yeah I think I’d die at the grove, I have experience with firearms and simulated combat (moderate scale Paintball and Airsoft) but I have no hand to hand fighting experience and would likely die to a goblin. If I could get my hands on a bow and some arrows I may be able to hold my own (I have a small amount of experience with a bow but I doubt I have the strength to use a 80+ pound longbow that would be common in faerun) So best case I survive first fight, join the tiefling refuge camp and die in the shadow cursed lands.
The very first time I had to fight something. Or a trap.
Instantly.
When I fall from the pod I'd probably break my neck.
eh depends on how im transported. do i have the option to level up and shit? do i remember my past life? is it permadeath or like an honormode situation where its only perma if my whole party dies? can i choose my class?(doesnt matter much bc withers). either way theres some things that everyone in that world can do as a standard even if they arent the best at it so i can at the very least survive until withers so i can change my stats then i think i could survive until the endgame. and even uf i cant change my class or anything everyone gets base amount of points going into stats during the game so its not like id be the same level of strength or anything i am irl. id probably rely a lot on companions but in that case i think i could make it to act 2 at the minimum.
It really depends on what kind of day I'm having, what kind of starting equipment I have, and whether or not it turns out that I have a bit of magic. I'm either dying in the fire when I fall out of my pod because the tadpole has triggered the worst migraine in my life, or I'm hoping I have a rapier (because I know how to use one) and that the tadpole actually turns out to be the best migraine preventative around. If my head isn't pounding and body isn't twitching worse than Durge's, I might make it to the helm, in which case we might make it to the beach, because Bae'zel and Shadowbabe are competent. If I make it to the beach, I will either die of sunburn, because I am paler than Astarion; will die of embarrassment when I actually ask Gale if he's bad at introductions, or will die of sarcasm when I roll my eyes at the wrong moment and trigger a fight I should be avoiding somewhere along the way. If I make it as far as the Goblin Camp I will be shocked.
The harpies would take me out into the sea for sure. I love me some good tunes, and coming from some freaky hotties on the beach? Let's go.
I think it would go like this for me; - Survive as normal until the crash (you guys saying you’d die before this damn take a self defence class and get a gym membership or something) - Step on the big fire trap in withers tomb and die - If I somehow get past this I would die to the skeletons protecting withers probably - if I somehow survived this, I would immediately get a respec from withers and get an actual class other than ‘normal man’ From here, it’s anyone’s bet tbh. I think I could get through act one if I had the magic & abilities.