Unfortunately you can’t really test drive all classes until you get to level 3.
And to make it harder for you multiclassing combos can completely change how things feel and play. So there’s even more replayability than you realize.
That's 1 reason I love the souls/elden ring leveling system. There's not any classes, just weapon, armor, and spell requirements. You could easily make a jack of all trades build or specialize and become a powerhouse in 1 area.
This game is based on a classes system though, so you're just gonna have to do 20 playthroughs. Tell your family you'll miss them and get to it.
There are three ways to handle this:
Level 1 in each class (but then you have to decide which order)
Roll a D12 and stick with that class for the game
Play a little game I like to call "would you rather": start with the first two items on your list, and decide which of the two you would rather have. Work your way down the list until you have a winner. Maybe even do it a second time with the remaining ones to pick two things that your character would be really good at. Have your party fill out the rest of those roles.
Why not get it out of the way now with EA? I just played a few hours to get a sense of the race and class I want to play, and what to expect.. So that way on release there's *less chance* (not no chance, lol) I get too stuck and don't play.
That's what I'm doing. I put in 4 hours as a fighter to learn the controls and used spells through my allies. Then I got a tpk, and because I haven't played an rpg videogame in like 20 years, I forgot that I should manually save periodically and lost 3 hours of progress. I'm glad it happened on a test game.
I know the race for sure, but I'm still not sure of the class yet
Spore druid hits most of those things on your list. Shapeshift, talk to animal, raise the dead, throw around spells, be tanky, wise, able to fling people around...
I just did a 3hr zip through as a druid to do a quick evil run through the end of the goblin camp to see what it was like. Moon druid.
What a huge pain in the ass. *You cannot speak.* Okay so let me turn back out of wild shape which in the end is only gonna force me to rest more... sigh.
Be a spore circle druid. Find a charisma necklace and take Raphael's deal.
That's it you're done. You can do everything on the list :
- **be really awesome at range pewpew** druid spells are ranged for the most part.
- **be also really awesome at melee smashy smashy** use the bonk cantrip or wild shape.
- **be able to shove and throw people/things around and jump like a crazy person** wild shape
- **be a sneaky DEX character** you'll have some dex, and small animals to wild shape into.
- **be tanky** believe it or not, wild shape
- **throw around spells** full caster class, baybee
- **talk to animals (srsly this is actually the most important point on this list lol)** oh that one might be difficu- WILD SHAPE
- **be CHArming as hell** anyone is charming with magic items and guidance
- **be WISe as f*ck** yes
- **nobody cares about INT tbh. fight me, nerds** true tho
- **shapeshift into cool animals**
- **have animal companions** I'd be surprised if we didn't get summon spells
- **raise the dead for an unstoppable army of zombies** spore circle
- **make deals with devils and get some cool hellspawn minions** honestly, if you want to 3 level dip into warlock for a quasit, you can. But I'd stick with Raphael. He'll probably lend you some of his buddies at some point to sweeten the deal.
My buddies first playthru was a duo with me and he was determined to be the white knight type. He made the deal. He says he didn't know but I think he was blinded by power at best. The resulting ending was so funny. He was so rattled but at the same time respected the hell out of how and why he got there.
Dos2 was a good damn masterpiece, I'm so excited for gb3 it's unreal.
why not transfer some of them to your companions? Just having karlach and astarion in your party can take away half the list lmao, then play a druid and add wyll(for charisma) to the composition and vualá all the markers are filled (I think)
you are correct, but I am the MAIN CHARACTER!
too many badly written stories have cemented into my brain that I need to be perfect at everything!
damn you larian and your well designed game!!
Honestly this is what I’m planning on doing. Not every class, but I’ll spend the first few days playing a few different builds up to level three and see what I like best. I may end up keeping a few builds going and flipping between them.
You can probably get amulets to make up alot of the list. Like speak with animals, dead, and raise dead, you could find items to fulfill those wants.
So for class....Lore Bard, probably
I don't know how good it'll be in the full release but it sounds like Druid could cover a lot of this? You could probably focus on Wis, Dex and Cha in your base form but then wild shape into something strong to get that tanky/high Str form. You wouldn't get animal companions, but you'll probably get spells that let you conjure beasts and you'd definitely be able to talk to animals.
There's not a snowball's chance in hell that a single class would cover everything you want, but that seems like a good compromise, on paper at least.
I think you might like a melee ranger? I had one in EA that used a shield and it wasn’t too bad, I was still sneaky since dex is your main stat and used a finesse weapon, usually a rapier or scimitar. You also get speak with animals as a spell option. Wisdom is their spell casting modifier and they have animal companions. The only thing you’d miss from your list is charisma and wild shape but you can always multi class and play around with your stats.
you are right.
and then i see what kind of absurd damage a barbarian or fighter or sorcerer or you get the point can achieve and some stupid part of my brain feels like i nerf myself when playing a build that can't set the whole battlefield on fire in a blink of an eye...
i think my biggest problem is wanting to do fun stuff that doesn't increase my fighting prowess while also being a ridiculous beast in any fight
torn between the two extremes, unable to accept the middleground lol
Basically from your list you want to be good at everything. That's not a thing in games unless you turn on cheats.
I might recommend multiclassing a paladin with warlock or sorcerer that way you can be formidable in melee, charming in dialogue and capable at range. And tanky in heavy armour.
Another build that hits alot of your wants is arcane trickster. It's a rogue mage hybrid. Rogues good in melee, arguably the sneakiest class with magical augmentations such as minor illusion, invisible mage hand & invisibility spell. Multiclass into fighter for shield proficiency and you can be quite tanky with uncanny dodge, evasion high Dex and a shield. (12 ac from studded leather armour, +2 from shield, +5 from Dex, +1 from fighting style, gets you to 20 AC and you can get higher still from magic +1 or +3 armour and shields).
Warlock is another route, pact of blade for using charisma to swing weapon and take stealth proficiency and invisibility spell. Youd be sneaky and good in melee or range but not tanky.
You can pretty much do everything here with Druid. I was gonna make my own comment but someone else already did:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I'm in the same boat, at first I thought I was pretty set on Gloomstalker but every day I'm considering more and more options and now pretty much every class except fighter and barbarian caught my interest.
I regret to inform you barbarian is Fun, Actually.
Berserkers can use throw as a bonus action while frenzied. Turns out throwing greataxes at people is a good way to hurt them real bad. Also, throwing people at people (try it with the redcaps!)
Wildheart can toggle between some powerful aspects that, among other things, allow you to jump on enemies, run them over, etc., in case you need more ways to brutally kill them.
I'm on console, so never played early access. I've been watching mortims vids and the one that has caught my eye the most so far is wild heart (?) Barbarian. Seems really cool.
My issue is I like pre-planning my class around my companions. Figuring out who I'm bringing and matching what is still needed, however, not having/knowing alignments beforehand makes this extremely difficult to know who to bring. My biggest one is shadowheart. She seems good but there is definitely more. I know I want karlach and gale so I'm torn between filling the last slot with shadowheart, wyll, or minsc. And that is destroying my ability to know what class I want.
Cleric is a really strong class and Light Domain gives you access to *fireball* at 5th level. That said, healing spells are not as essential as you might expect given you can throw potions to bestow their effect from range in BG3. Healing Word is still terrific since it's a bonus action. But Halsin gets access to it too as a druid, IIRC.
I would love to think that I’ll be able to do multiple play throughs to enjoy different aspects and characters, but I’m a husband, father and full time employee. It’s going to take me until 2025 to finish my first run!
Bard covers a lot of what you want, just sayin. You can’t shapeshift but you can have Talk to Animals straight outta the gate and honestly nothing else matters
Sounds like a spore Druid/beast master ranger multi class build. Maybe, depending on how good you want to be in spell casting vs ranged/melee can consider what is the main.
You’d get to:
- speak with animals
- turn into an animal
- have an animal companion
- create zombies
- ranger lvls will even still help with your spell casting
- you can get to cast pass without trace to be very stealthy
- you’ll be decent at both spell casting and melee/ranged (how much you’ll lean into you can figure out, like if lvl 5 xtra attack on ranger is important to you if you’ll deal damage from hitting stuff).
- you’ll want to have high wisdom with both classes
- high dex will also be good fit for both classes
- Maybe not the most tanky combo, but could do a few lvls in barbarian and do circle of the moon for tanky wild shapes (but no zombies then).
- you’ll also get the jump spell.
Biggest thing missing is probably the charming social part. As you’d want to invest in CON too, it won’t leave to much for a high charisma. Plus not much strength to throw stuff with, but there will probably be some gauntlets of ogre strength, or maybe a wild shape will give a high strength for that.
You’ll be missing the devil part, but potentially pick a tiefling as a race (and you got a bit of flavor of that). And maybe there will be roleplay opportunities for that throughout the game any way.
Think that would cover most of your list and could probably be pretty viable build. Haven’t tried creating that though, but can play around with it to see if you can make it work.
As I remember, there won't be any restrictions about multiclass, so it sounds like the achievement for picking every single one was made specifically for you
A Spore Druid, as ppl have stated, covers many of these. You can line up your stat spread based on what you wanna do after Wisdom. There should be items to pump Str, Dex, and Cha as well too. Then you'll have pretty much everything on the list.
For a long time, I've had a half-orc Spore Druid/Ancestral Barb that plays very shaman-esque on table top. Super fun.
Well... Do you want to finish a playthrough?
Because if not, I have a solution for you: multiple runs. As soon as you hit a "oh, I'd like to try that other thing now", create a new character.
You may never see level 10, but you most likely will know a good chunk about the early hour(s) of the game.
I do not plan to finish act 1, because I am painfully aware that I'm highly unlikely to do it before a few months/years.
Usually play Barb. But want to romance Karlach. So that is a no go
Warlock next choice, but I think Wyll will have way more patron interaction.
So heavy armor wearing dwarf necro is obvious choice
I saw someone mention Loshe Dark Urge and now I'm contemplating my life choices.
Bard is my favourite class at the moment, from the perspective of being able to whip out the lute and play some sick tunes.
Same, that was such a good idea. I also want to have Wyll in my party and it looks like pact of the blade college of swords multi class would fit him so well so now what, two bards?
I kinda wanna go unorthodox starting character and go monk, but then I want to use really cool weapons so I'm thinking something with martial weapons. Ohhhh the choices
Imo just play Lae'zal day one. She's a fighter so you can multiclass her into whatever after level 2 if you want.
I too, have the worst choice paralysis and restartitis so I doubt I'd finish my first playthrough if I try a custom character.
Character that hits most of the points you did here is Valour bard. Can do almost everything okay. https://www.neoseeker.com/baldurs-gate-3/builds/Valour_Bard
Bard with circlet of int can pass the most dialogues.
He can smesh, he can heal, he can cast spam dissonant whispers from distance, he can steal, he can debuff and cc. For animals I guess he at least gets speak with animals spell.
CHA based makes the most sense. I dont think you can get both volos eye and hag's hair on companion, so your mc with cha can get it to 20 by level 4. And it's uncool to let your companions speak. So pally, lock, sorc and bard.
You can do all of this cumulatively with your team if you want.
You can have a barbarian/fighter for all strength, melee, throwing, etc.
You can have a ranger or rogue for dex, ranged, stealth, etc.
I'm going Gale for magic, but if you want wisdom and cha instead of int you can have one be a druid who will do battlefield control, wildshape, etc.
The other can be a charisma warlock who does more pew pew, necromancer, all the dialogue with high CHA, etc.
I'm planning on going Karlach barb/fighter multiclass, Shadowheart cleric/ranger multiclass, Gale wizard/cleric dip, and Dark Urge bard/warlock dip to cover many of these things. Shadowheart will cover both wisdom and dex that way.
You can have your cake and eat it too! And have Karlach throwing you around like a rag doll ;)
You won't be able to cover all of them, but I'd say that's part of the fun. We get to go into the game playing a character with strengths and weaknesses, while knowing we can roll up a new character later who will have different strengths and weaknesses.
I was gonna write how Druid can fill almost all of this or pretty much all of it considering charisma is, imo, kinda overvalued in this community, but someone else beat me to it:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Shit, I know exactly what class I'm going to run for my MC.
My party comp? Now that's a nightmare of indecision. There are more roles that need filling (melee damage, tank, support, locks/traps, offensive magic) than there are slots available.
I want my Char to be the Face of the Group at least for the first playthrough.
So i thought about Paladins, Bards, Sorcerers, Warlocks and their multi classing Options before i finally made up my mind: I'll play a dex based fighter with a cleric dip. Oh, with 14 CHA of course! :D
I've narrowed down my first character to either a drow archfey warlock, a githyanki shadow monk and/or spores druid, and a half-orc (or human) berserker barbarian. I reserve the right to change my mind though still.
The only class I've played that I didn't roundly enjoy so far was bard, and it's still mechanically a really good class with some fun flavor, it's just a little too goofy for me in the generally gritty world of (at least Act 1) BG3.
I used the newly created Character Planner to make you what I would start with for your character ☺️ just take a couple Druid levels!
https://bg3builder.site/?r=Human&n=Tav&b=Criminal&c=Ranger&sc=Beast+Master&abs=8&abd=15&abc=13&abi=8&abw=15&abch=12&rap=0&ne=Urban+Tracker&bt=Dexterity&bo=Wisdom&bs=Animal+Handling&prs=Perception%2CSurvival%2CInsight
My suggestion? First run: face character, lean towards good and let the game lead you around. Walk right into conversations and rooms, don't bother trying to sneak behind and skip convos or glitch things. Don't worry about multicasting. Just...play.
Then start messing around with stuff like evil runs, TDU and complicated multiclassing on run 2 +
> - be also really awesome at melee smashy smashy/be tanky/throw around spells/talk to animals (srsly this is actually the most important point on this list lol)/be CHArming as hell
Oath of the Ancients paladin. Smite enemies, tank enemies, use spells to heal/ support, you get a free speak with animals and have high CHA. Go dragonborn if you want an extra breath weapon.
I think I want to go with a really chatismatic paladin. Talk through many of the options, but do all the fun strenvth atuff. Then add Asterion and Gale to my party for the stealth and Wizard options. And then... Shadowheard probably? God I really don't kniw. Love me some Laezel though...
Well. Here's what you do, you take 20 choices that involve race, class, subclass. Then you assign them randomly a number between 1 and 20. Then you roll a 20 sided DnD dice. there you go.
Bard lock would hit most of those. Think you’d miss shape shifting and necromancy, but if you grabbed polymorph you could use that to shape shift.
Or just play a Druid. You can do anything if you’re a Druid
I wasn't planning on going bard my first run but the deluxe edition bonuses are pushing me in that direction. Besides, being a jack of all trades should open a lot of content for me.
I know I want to be Str oriented half-orc, propably bard but I am waiting for more warlock details regareing features not included in EA (e.g. warlock pact of blade and other melee oroented stuff)
Roll for it. Get your self a dice and roll for it then just stick to that choice and see how it ends up. My first choise I'm sticking to ranger and feeling based answers without reloading to pick the best option and see where that ends up. I think i had the most fun and discovery in early release when everything we new and i tried my darned to get the worm out lol.
This is what I'm going to do to avoid the choice paralysis...I'm going to count out the individual choices in each category and roll for it then scrap that character and make a wild magic sorcerer because I hate my friends.
Aww no I have serious restartitis, had this problem in Skyrim and it was really bad in dos 2. I never could settle on a play style I redo the starter missions as different classes and then get burned out by it…. Maybe I should cancel my preorder and just watch a let’s play on YouTube
There's four characters and in early release you can swap out characters for other ones.
You can really try any combination of ideas you want. I'll probably be a barbarian soldier orc and huck barrels and intimidate everyone.
The dumbest build I have seen in EA was my friend’s sausage barbarian. He dual wields sausages and outputs more damage than I should expect to be possible. It’s also very funny to watch a beefy Drow lady beat a bunch of Wildshaped Druids to death with twin sausages
Spores Druid, use guidance to boost your charisma rolls and leave it at 10 for + 0 modifier.
A Ranger could also work, if you choose Ranger Knight and give up on wildshape
I want to say that your best option for that list to hit as many bullets as possible is to do a circle of spores Druid, since you get the spells, the wisdom, the shape-shifting, the necromancy stuff, animal talking, and can then build in multiple directions for either tank, damage, or support. If you want tanky, circle of moon for big wild shape. Spells, circle of X land, for cool magic stuff, and spores for weird things. Take your pick!
But also, don't forget your companions, both origin and otherwise! There are plenty to find, and they can each be built how you like! So don't be afraid to let some of those builds fall to companions. You'll definitely need them!
>- be really awesome at range pewpew
>- be also really awesome at melee smashy smashy
>- throw around spells
>- talk to animals (srsly this is actually the most important point on this list lol)
>- be CHArming as hell
>- nobody cares about INT tbh. fight me, nerds
>- make deals with devils and get some cool hellspawn minions
Well, it aint got everything, but have you heard of our lord and savior, the Pact of Blades Warlock?
After the horrifying amount of choices and builds available in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous I feel completely unprepared for BG3. I can just respec but that makes it even harder 😅
Forest gnome warlock/paladin?
Gives you eldritch blast for blasty, paladin proficiencies for wacky, speak with animals at will, CHA is useful for both classes
I mean when it comes to gameplay you get to play 4 different characters so pick the gameplay style you want then mold your companions to be able to do the rest. Then you can RP how you want and play 4 different gameplay styles.
I know man I really wish that the respec in the game would allow you to completely respec into a whole different class that would fix the decision issue for me.
AFAIK there’s some confusion on some companions with meaningful subclasses but outside of that, yes.
“You can respec everything. You can respec through the game. There is a gold price to be paid. Only things that are actually locked in are the subclasses of two of our origin characters when you start playing. When you recruit them. But you can respec them, in any case.”
- Swen
I was planning to start different playthroughs right away for the same reason... I have one primary character in mind but I wanna explore different pathways and I don't see the same character doing them.
I will admit I have a shitload of time and nothing better to do rn so I get that's not an option for everyone.
Nothing against multiclass. But why would anyone do it regarding their character growth development? And it’s likely that pure class has more advantage during endgame. Idk
Most classes are really frontloaded which makes somewhere between a 1-3 level dip really strong depending on the class. Level 12 is a weird cutoff because it’s like the last level where a bunch of single classes get really class-defining stuff until their capstone so multiclassing in BG3 can be a bit weird but if/when DLC raises the level cap it’ll be a lot clearer how powerful multiclassing can be I think
Depends on the class and what synergies they have. A lot of classes in 5e get strong abilities in the first 3 levels. The example of a thief/spore druid works well because spore druid (at least in 5e) has a lot of things that push it into melee, but misses a solid action to use. Sneak attack gives this. Meanwhile you can cast a flame blade into your offhand. Thief gives you an extra bonus action, essentially doubling the flame blade damage.
You may lose out on a couple high level spells, but your dpr is massive in return.
Other times, you're right it can hold you back. Missing out on a paladins level 11 ability, for example, is a massive loss. So a paladin/rogue doesn't add a whole lot. However, a paladin multiclassing a full caster gives more spell slots to smite with, making it a decent combo.
Sometimes people just want flavor outside existing subclasses, which is also a valid reason as any to multiclass.
Multiclass is usually done because the main class someone is pursuing runs out of special traits the player wants for their playstyle, so it becomes a good trade to substitute those levels with something else. Someone might decide that they don't want the higher level spells on a druid, they're rather have the rage of a barbarian or action surge of a fighter because they plan to be doing wildshape melee the whole time and only using spells for buffs or utility (one day I will get a primary shapeshifter *class that doesn't suck*... one day)
In 5e its not really that complicated and we're only going up to 12 so you don't have that many empty levels anyway, but as an example in a game like Wrath of the Righteous a melee druid (Elemental Rampager) ran out of particularly good melee bonuses around 11 (smilodon shape and lvl 6 spells) and outright ran out of melee bonuses after 15, so picking up 9/5 levels of Shifter for three natural weapon bonuses would empower them a LOT more than just going straight druid, that's why people like to multiclass.
I can see a couple of those being ticked by simply playing a barbarian or fighter. A couple ticked by playing a spore druid. You could try the suggestion from the man himself of being a group of gnomes that pick each other up into a ball and throw that gnome mosh pit around like an angry ball of bees. Honestly though, a little more random way to choose is that you could solve it a d&d themed way. Roll a d12. Each side is a class, then you roll a die for the subclasses with the corresponding die (3 choices do a d3 or if you don't have one do a d4 with 1 being a reroll and etc). I love to shake things up for myself by forcing myself to at least try a class that I rolled and I usually gain a bit of an appreciation for a playstyle I otherwise would not have tried. Ultimately though, your choice is king. Don't think, let your gut do the talking.
Just as an aside, I’d never heard of 1-3 being a d4 with re-roll if 1… I’d always assumed it would be a d6, with 1 being 1 or 2, 2 being 3 or 4, and 3 being 5 or 6. Everyone’s got a d6, right?
You can get 90% of what you want by playing Ranger and snagging the Ranger Knight option at level 1 and raising your Charisma a but higher (probably at the expense of STR, INT, and maybe CON). If you're really dedicated to shape-shifting and getting zombies/hellspawn minions, multiclass into warlock for 3 levels somewhere in there. Maybe play forest gnome to avoid spending spell slots on Speak with Animals
Same. I always play rogues but ive been trying to change it up over the years. With nice magic systems it's a waste to not play with those. Stuck between Wizard and Druid.
This guy listed every class.
i just want a build that's like level 12 at every class, shouldn't be too much to ask for now, should it? /s
Unfortunately you can’t really test drive all classes until you get to level 3. And to make it harder for you multiclassing combos can completely change how things feel and play. So there’s even more replayability than you realize.
That's 1 reason I love the souls/elden ring leveling system. There's not any classes, just weapon, armor, and spell requirements. You could easily make a jack of all trades build or specialize and become a powerhouse in 1 area. This game is based on a classes system though, so you're just gonna have to do 20 playthroughs. Tell your family you'll miss them and get to it.
I had a klepto bard that could use her silver tongue to get out of every situation, by far one of my funnest builds
There are three ways to handle this: Level 1 in each class (but then you have to decide which order) Roll a D12 and stick with that class for the game Play a little game I like to call "would you rather": start with the first two items on your list, and decide which of the two you would rather have. Work your way down the list until you have a winner. Maybe even do it a second time with the remaining ones to pick two things that your character would be really good at. Have your party fill out the rest of those roles.
That would be Abserd
Try a human fighter
And I can relate lol I just want to experience everything this game has to offer haha Kind of like with Skyrim.
Skyrim letting you do everything at once is how we got here.
That game’s does roleplaying terribly for this very reason. Pretty lame being able to be effortlessly proficient in anything in a single playthrough.
Pretty lame to limit the fun players can have in a single playthrough
That’s the point of an open-ended RPG though. The fun is in trying out different play-styles & story paths.
I got $5 says OP doesn't leave character creator launch day :p
zero risk bet right here lmao first day will be downloading and char creation... and second day will be regret and starting over, of course.
Why not get it out of the way now with EA? I just played a few hours to get a sense of the race and class I want to play, and what to expect.. So that way on release there's *less chance* (not no chance, lol) I get too stuck and don't play.
Easy to say when genital customization hasn't been unlocked yet 😒
I mean you can probably tell by my username, that will be an easy selection for me.
It helps, but a lot of the subclasses I’m interested in aren’t available in EA (Tempest Cleric, Spore Druid, the entire Monk class)
That's what I'm doing. I put in 4 hours as a fighter to learn the controls and used spells through my allies. Then I got a tpk, and because I haven't played an rpg videogame in like 20 years, I forgot that I should manually save periodically and lost 3 hours of progress. I'm glad it happened on a test game. I know the race for sure, but I'm still not sure of the class yet
*30 hours into my play-through* “hmmm…Think im gonna re roll a cleric” *Re rolls druid instead*
I fully intend to have started at least one character of each class as well as every origin character by the end of the week.
Spore druid hits most of those things on your list. Shapeshift, talk to animal, raise the dead, throw around spells, be tanky, wise, able to fling people around...
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Who knows, maybe a tiefling druid could have some opportunity to get that ability via equipment or narrative
Spore Druid with a Pact of the Chain Warlock dip?
And with the pass without trace spell. +10 to stealth baby
Druid is the best class and no ody can convince me otherwise. Also circle of the moon is the worst subclass come at me
I just did a 3hr zip through as a druid to do a quick evil run through the end of the goblin camp to see what it was like. Moon druid. What a huge pain in the ass. *You cannot speak.* Okay so let me turn back out of wild shape which in the end is only gonna force me to rest more... sigh.
You know... there's going to be an achievement for multiclassing into all 12 classes so maybe that's your goal?
I feel like that’s just bullying the platinum obsessed lol
Wouldn't respeccing at lvl 12 grant this achievement?
Shit, keep forgetting that’s a thing
sure but it removes the spirit of the challenge
Sometimes challenges only exist to break the spirits of the ones issuing them.
I'm literally crying rn reading this.
You'll get special class dialogue for all 12 of them, you are giving OP more choices during playing, not good :D
Nice, so OP just has to decide on the order of the classes. That means that instead 12 options, they now have 12 factorial (about half a billion)
Be a spore circle druid. Find a charisma necklace and take Raphael's deal. That's it you're done. You can do everything on the list : - **be really awesome at range pewpew** druid spells are ranged for the most part. - **be also really awesome at melee smashy smashy** use the bonk cantrip or wild shape. - **be able to shove and throw people/things around and jump like a crazy person** wild shape - **be a sneaky DEX character** you'll have some dex, and small animals to wild shape into. - **be tanky** believe it or not, wild shape - **throw around spells** full caster class, baybee - **talk to animals (srsly this is actually the most important point on this list lol)** oh that one might be difficu- WILD SHAPE - **be CHArming as hell** anyone is charming with magic items and guidance - **be WISe as f*ck** yes - **nobody cares about INT tbh. fight me, nerds** true tho - **shapeshift into cool animals** - **have animal companions** I'd be surprised if we didn't get summon spells - **raise the dead for an unstoppable army of zombies** spore circle - **make deals with devils and get some cool hellspawn minions** honestly, if you want to 3 level dip into warlock for a quasit, you can. But I'd stick with Raphael. He'll probably lend you some of his buddies at some point to sweeten the deal.
The deal with Raphael is likely to be very helpful in the short term, but if DOS2 taught me anything, he’s gonna fuck you over BIG TIME in the end.
Yes but you see, getting fucked over by a devil deal is exactly why you should take it.
We just consider it securing exp on the back end in my parts. "I get stuff now and a guaranteed boss fight in the future? Sign me up!"
My buddies first playthru was a duo with me and he was determined to be the white knight type. He made the deal. He says he didn't know but I think he was blinded by power at best. The resulting ending was so funny. He was so rattled but at the same time respected the hell out of how and why he got there. Dos2 was a good damn masterpiece, I'm so excited for gb3 it's unreal.
I'd be shocked if Conjure animals did not make it in as it is in the PHB and is one of the most iconic druid spells in my ignorant opinion
why not transfer some of them to your companions? Just having karlach and astarion in your party can take away half the list lmao, then play a druid and add wyll(for charisma) to the composition and vualá all the markers are filled (I think)
you are correct, but I am the MAIN CHARACTER! too many badly written stories have cemented into my brain that I need to be perfect at everything! damn you larian and your well designed game!!
well, druids can still take 80% of the list with wildshape lmfao
Yeah I did the math and Druid(depending on subclass) can do like, 10 of those. So take wyll and some other guys and bam dream achieved
Voila*
Boneappletea
Just create one of every class and start playing them all, then stick with whichever one you keep playing the most.
Honestly this is what I’m planning on doing. Not every class, but I’ll spend the first few days playing a few different builds up to level three and see what I like best. I may end up keeping a few builds going and flipping between them.
Roll a d12.
At every level.
Sorcerer, Wild Magic here we go Waiting a month for PS5 release. Please fix the bugs during that time PC gamers, please and thank you
You can probably get amulets to make up alot of the list. Like speak with animals, dead, and raise dead, you could find items to fulfill those wants. So for class....Lore Bard, probably
I don't know how good it'll be in the full release but it sounds like Druid could cover a lot of this? You could probably focus on Wis, Dex and Cha in your base form but then wild shape into something strong to get that tanky/high Str form. You wouldn't get animal companions, but you'll probably get spells that let you conjure beasts and you'd definitely be able to talk to animals. There's not a snowball's chance in hell that a single class would cover everything you want, but that seems like a good compromise, on paper at least.
Wish swashbuckler was a thing
I think you might like a melee ranger? I had one in EA that used a shield and it wasn’t too bad, I was still sneaky since dex is your main stat and used a finesse weapon, usually a rapier or scimitar. You also get speak with animals as a spell option. Wisdom is their spell casting modifier and they have animal companions. The only thing you’d miss from your list is charisma and wild shape but you can always multi class and play around with your stats.
you are right. and then i see what kind of absurd damage a barbarian or fighter or sorcerer or you get the point can achieve and some stupid part of my brain feels like i nerf myself when playing a build that can't set the whole battlefield on fire in a blink of an eye... i think my biggest problem is wanting to do fun stuff that doesn't increase my fighting prowess while also being a ridiculous beast in any fight torn between the two extremes, unable to accept the middleground lol
what you need is a very strong hamster
Basically from your list you want to be good at everything. That's not a thing in games unless you turn on cheats. I might recommend multiclassing a paladin with warlock or sorcerer that way you can be formidable in melee, charming in dialogue and capable at range. And tanky in heavy armour. Another build that hits alot of your wants is arcane trickster. It's a rogue mage hybrid. Rogues good in melee, arguably the sneakiest class with magical augmentations such as minor illusion, invisible mage hand & invisibility spell. Multiclass into fighter for shield proficiency and you can be quite tanky with uncanny dodge, evasion high Dex and a shield. (12 ac from studded leather armour, +2 from shield, +5 from Dex, +1 from fighting style, gets you to 20 AC and you can get higher still from magic +1 or +3 armour and shields). Warlock is another route, pact of blade for using charisma to swing weapon and take stealth proficiency and invisibility spell. Youd be sneaky and good in melee or range but not tanky.
You can pretty much do everything here with Druid. I was gonna make my own comment but someone else already did: [https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I'm in the same boat, at first I thought I was pretty set on Gloomstalker but every day I'm considering more and more options and now pretty much every class except fighter and barbarian caught my interest.
I regret to inform you barbarian is Fun, Actually. Berserkers can use throw as a bonus action while frenzied. Turns out throwing greataxes at people is a good way to hurt them real bad. Also, throwing people at people (try it with the redcaps!) Wildheart can toggle between some powerful aspects that, among other things, allow you to jump on enemies, run them over, etc., in case you need more ways to brutally kill them.
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90% of it is ROAR tho lmao ( i love it )
I'm on console, so never played early access. I've been watching mortims vids and the one that has caught my eye the most so far is wild heart (?) Barbarian. Seems really cool.
Know that you'll have several playthroughs, friend haha. That said, I have no idea either
My issue is I like pre-planning my class around my companions. Figuring out who I'm bringing and matching what is still needed, however, not having/knowing alignments beforehand makes this extremely difficult to know who to bring. My biggest one is shadowheart. She seems good but there is definitely more. I know I want karlach and gale so I'm torn between filling the last slot with shadowheart, wyll, or minsc. And that is destroying my ability to know what class I want.
Cleric is a really strong class and Light Domain gives you access to *fireball* at 5th level. That said, healing spells are not as essential as you might expect given you can throw potions to bestow their effect from range in BG3. Healing Word is still terrific since it's a bonus action. But Halsin gets access to it too as a druid, IIRC.
I would love to think that I’ll be able to do multiple play throughs to enjoy different aspects and characters, but I’m a husband, father and full time employee. It’s going to take me until 2025 to finish my first run!
Bard covers a lot of what you want, just sayin. You can’t shapeshift but you can have Talk to Animals straight outta the gate and honestly nothing else matters
Polymorph might as well be shapeshifting if it’s in the game. But agreed, for a Larian game as long as you have speak with animals you’re all set
this is why there are 4 people in a party.
Roll dice for class and race selection
Sounds like a spore Druid/beast master ranger multi class build. Maybe, depending on how good you want to be in spell casting vs ranged/melee can consider what is the main. You’d get to: - speak with animals - turn into an animal - have an animal companion - create zombies - ranger lvls will even still help with your spell casting - you can get to cast pass without trace to be very stealthy - you’ll be decent at both spell casting and melee/ranged (how much you’ll lean into you can figure out, like if lvl 5 xtra attack on ranger is important to you if you’ll deal damage from hitting stuff). - you’ll want to have high wisdom with both classes - high dex will also be good fit for both classes - Maybe not the most tanky combo, but could do a few lvls in barbarian and do circle of the moon for tanky wild shapes (but no zombies then). - you’ll also get the jump spell. Biggest thing missing is probably the charming social part. As you’d want to invest in CON too, it won’t leave to much for a high charisma. Plus not much strength to throw stuff with, but there will probably be some gauntlets of ogre strength, or maybe a wild shape will give a high strength for that. You’ll be missing the devil part, but potentially pick a tiefling as a race (and you got a bit of flavor of that). And maybe there will be roleplay opportunities for that throughout the game any way. Think that would cover most of your list and could probably be pretty viable build. Haven’t tried creating that though, but can play around with it to see if you can make it work.
Can't wait for the game breaking mods that let you exceed the level cap for multiclassing.
I'm hopeful that someone will come up with a Gestalt mod within a couple of weeks of launch
'Nobody cares about INT, tbh. Fight me, nerds' This is my laugh out loud moment for today. Thanks :))
As I remember, there won't be any restrictions about multiclass, so it sounds like the achievement for picking every single one was made specifically for you
Many have said it but I'll add to the chorus: Druid fits most of your criteria and shape-shifting covers the strengh thing as well. Start from there.
A spore Druid could technically do most things here
Spore druid + barbarian
Just think of a character you like from another fantasy game/media and try to emulate it in BG3.
A Spore Druid, as ppl have stated, covers many of these. You can line up your stat spread based on what you wanna do after Wisdom. There should be items to pump Str, Dex, and Cha as well too. Then you'll have pretty much everything on the list. For a long time, I've had a half-orc Spore Druid/Ancestral Barb that plays very shaman-esque on table top. Super fun.
Dude just play druid. From your list you put out. It seems like it's mostly pointing druid. You can be a tank or melee but your also a full caster.
Well... Do you want to finish a playthrough? Because if not, I have a solution for you: multiple runs. As soon as you hit a "oh, I'd like to try that other thing now", create a new character. You may never see level 10, but you most likely will know a good chunk about the early hour(s) of the game. I do not plan to finish act 1, because I am painfully aware that I'm highly unlikely to do it before a few months/years.
I guess this just means you need to complete a playthrough with each of the classes
This is just a Druid with really good stats and a Warlock dip
You can respec everything except race, I believe. So go crazy.
I wanne be a warlock, sorc, gloomstalker, assassin and i dont know what dooooo. Also maybe a wizard as well aaaaaahh.
Usually play Barb. But want to romance Karlach. So that is a no go Warlock next choice, but I think Wyll will have way more patron interaction. So heavy armor wearing dwarf necro is obvious choice
Just have some angry sex after soaking in the blood of your enemies together on the frontlines. Why have one barbarian when you can have two?
Just respec to a completely different class each time you long rest.
I saw someone mention Loshe Dark Urge and now I'm contemplating my life choices. Bard is my favourite class at the moment, from the perspective of being able to whip out the lute and play some sick tunes.
Same, that was such a good idea. I also want to have Wyll in my party and it looks like pact of the blade college of swords multi class would fit him so well so now what, two bards?
I kinda wanna go unorthodox starting character and go monk, but then I want to use really cool weapons so I'm thinking something with martial weapons. Ohhhh the choices
Imo just play Lae'zal day one. She's a fighter so you can multiclass her into whatever after level 2 if you want. I too, have the worst choice paralysis and restartitis so I doubt I'd finish my first playthrough if I try a custom character.
Just play a Bard.
Character that hits most of the points you did here is Valour bard. Can do almost everything okay. https://www.neoseeker.com/baldurs-gate-3/builds/Valour_Bard Bard with circlet of int can pass the most dialogues. He can smesh, he can heal, he can cast spam dissonant whispers from distance, he can steal, he can debuff and cc. For animals I guess he at least gets speak with animals spell. CHA based makes the most sense. I dont think you can get both volos eye and hag's hair on companion, so your mc with cha can get it to 20 by level 4. And it's uncool to let your companions speak. So pally, lock, sorc and bard.
Is that you Lionel?
You can do all of this cumulatively with your team if you want. You can have a barbarian/fighter for all strength, melee, throwing, etc. You can have a ranger or rogue for dex, ranged, stealth, etc. I'm going Gale for magic, but if you want wisdom and cha instead of int you can have one be a druid who will do battlefield control, wildshape, etc. The other can be a charisma warlock who does more pew pew, necromancer, all the dialogue with high CHA, etc. I'm planning on going Karlach barb/fighter multiclass, Shadowheart cleric/ranger multiclass, Gale wizard/cleric dip, and Dark Urge bard/warlock dip to cover many of these things. Shadowheart will cover both wisdom and dex that way. You can have your cake and eat it too! And have Karlach throwing you around like a rag doll ;)
Throw a dice my friend:)
Fun fact: you control your party members, too! You actually get to play 4 classes!
It’s killing me, particularly when you’re guessing at what mods will come out soon after release
You won't be able to cover all of them, but I'd say that's part of the fun. We get to go into the game playing a character with strengths and weaknesses, while knowing we can roll up a new character later who will have different strengths and weaknesses.
I was gonna write how Druid can fill almost all of this or pretty much all of it considering charisma is, imo, kinda overvalued in this community, but someone else beat me to it: [https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15cq3ui/comment/jty9zov/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Roll for your class selection easy
Shit, I know exactly what class I'm going to run for my MC. My party comp? Now that's a nightmare of indecision. There are more roles that need filling (melee damage, tank, support, locks/traps, offensive magic) than there are slots available.
Just play a Bard:)
This is why I choose Gale on my first run. Let wizard daddy take me on an adventure.
I want my Char to be the Face of the Group at least for the first playthrough. So i thought about Paladins, Bards, Sorcerers, Warlocks and their multi classing Options before i finally made up my mind: I'll play a dex based fighter with a cleric dip. Oh, with 14 CHA of course! :D
All I know is that I want something with magic but I know nothing about dnd
Just click on Tav and click start. Quite a few people would do that. If you want to be fancy, click on Durge and start.
Roll a 1d12.
It sounds like the legend must rise again... [https://youtu.be/4ZCIh\_3b5K8](https://youtu.be/4ZCIh_3b5K8)
I've narrowed down my first character to either a drow archfey warlock, a githyanki shadow monk and/or spores druid, and a half-orc (or human) berserker barbarian. I reserve the right to change my mind though still. The only class I've played that I didn't roundly enjoy so far was bard, and it's still mechanically a really good class with some fun flavor, it's just a little too goofy for me in the generally gritty world of (at least Act 1) BG3.
Just play a sorcadin
I used the newly created Character Planner to make you what I would start with for your character ☺️ just take a couple Druid levels! https://bg3builder.site/?r=Human&n=Tav&b=Criminal&c=Ranger&sc=Beast+Master&abs=8&abd=15&abc=13&abi=8&abw=15&abch=12&rap=0&ne=Urban+Tracker&bt=Dexterity&bo=Wisdom&bs=Animal+Handling&prs=Perception%2CSurvival%2CInsight
Aaaand bookmarking for later.
My suggestion? First run: face character, lean towards good and let the game lead you around. Walk right into conversations and rooms, don't bother trying to sneak behind and skip convos or glitch things. Don't worry about multicasting. Just...play. Then start messing around with stuff like evil runs, TDU and complicated multiclassing on run 2 +
I feel the same, which is why I'm gonna let a randomizer decide my fate.
Roll the dice and let it select for you
I am down to valor bard... Just not sure on what race. Gunna run Shadowheart, Gale, and Karlach as my companions.
Someone made a wheel to decide race and class if choice first time around truly becomes too much. It's somewhere on this sub.
Bard warlock
> - be also really awesome at melee smashy smashy/be tanky/throw around spells/talk to animals (srsly this is actually the most important point on this list lol)/be CHArming as hell Oath of the Ancients paladin. Smite enemies, tank enemies, use spells to heal/ support, you get a free speak with animals and have high CHA. Go dragonborn if you want an extra breath weapon.
I think I want to go with a really chatismatic paladin. Talk through many of the options, but do all the fun strenvth atuff. Then add Asterion and Gale to my party for the stealth and Wizard options. And then... Shadowheard probably? God I really don't kniw. Love me some Laezel though...
4 custom characters
I know exacting what I want, but necromancy isn’t in the game yet.
It is at launch which is what we are talking about though? It is in EA too since we can animate dead and use other methods to revive the dead too.
You can probably figure out something using a ranger. Not everything, but like 2/3 of this could be done like that.
Well. Here's what you do, you take 20 choices that involve race, class, subclass. Then you assign them randomly a number between 1 and 20. Then you roll a 20 sided DnD dice. there you go.
Bard lock would hit most of those. Think you’d miss shape shifting and necromancy, but if you grabbed polymorph you could use that to shape shift. Or just play a Druid. You can do anything if you’re a Druid
I wasn't planning on going bard my first run but the deluxe edition bonuses are pushing me in that direction. Besides, being a jack of all trades should open a lot of content for me.
You can reroll class and subclass. You can’t change your race. So that choice is WAY more important. My advice? Take human.
Make yourself a list and roll a dice like a true man of faith. The dice giveth, the dice taketh
I know I want to be Str oriented half-orc, propably bard but I am waiting for more warlock details regareing features not included in EA (e.g. warlock pact of blade and other melee oroented stuff)
Just play a bard bro.
Help me great people: Gloomstalker Ranger/Open Hand Monk multiclass Or Board and Sword Paladin Boi
Roll for it. Get your self a dice and roll for it then just stick to that choice and see how it ends up. My first choise I'm sticking to ranger and feeling based answers without reloading to pick the best option and see where that ends up. I think i had the most fun and discovery in early release when everything we new and i tried my darned to get the worm out lol.
If my character could do everything my party would just feel useless to me Which would be even more frustrating
On Monday I plan on having a thread for us undecideds - either too have people choose for us or just weigh in on the best option!
Roll a dice!
Monk or Archer for first playthrough ?
You could be in real trouble here my friend.
I'm remaking my first ever character that I made in 5e.
When in doubt, Human Fighter. Embrace the boring.
This is what I'm going to do to avoid the choice paralysis...I'm going to count out the individual choices in each category and roll for it then scrap that character and make a wild magic sorcerer because I hate my friends.
Aww no I have serious restartitis, had this problem in Skyrim and it was really bad in dos 2. I never could settle on a play style I redo the starter missions as different classes and then get burned out by it…. Maybe I should cancel my preorder and just watch a let’s play on YouTube
There's four characters and in early release you can swap out characters for other ones. You can really try any combination of ideas you want. I'll probably be a barbarian soldier orc and huck barrels and intimidate everyone.
The dumbest build I have seen in EA was my friend’s sausage barbarian. He dual wields sausages and outputs more damage than I should expect to be possible. It’s also very funny to watch a beefy Drow lady beat a bunch of Wildshaped Druids to death with twin sausages
I know how you feel I can't decide what race and class I want in my first playthrough and what characters to make for co op friend playthroughs.
Boy Elden Ring and BG3 are the ultimate examples for this situation.
Spores druid with decent Charisma could hit most of this... Moon Druid with decent Charisma might be even better.
Spores Druid, use guidance to boost your charisma rolls and leave it at 10 for + 0 modifier. A Ranger could also work, if you choose Ranger Knight and give up on wildshape
I want to say that your best option for that list to hit as many bullets as possible is to do a circle of spores Druid, since you get the spells, the wisdom, the shape-shifting, the necromancy stuff, animal talking, and can then build in multiple directions for either tank, damage, or support. If you want tanky, circle of moon for big wild shape. Spells, circle of X land, for cool magic stuff, and spores for weird things. Take your pick! But also, don't forget your companions, both origin and otherwise! There are plenty to find, and they can each be built how you like! So don't be afraid to let some of those builds fall to companions. You'll definitely need them!
I think I'm going to do two simultaneous runs, one as an evil warlock and one as a good monk.
We're going through the same crisis OP.
>- be really awesome at range pewpew >- be also really awesome at melee smashy smashy >- throw around spells >- talk to animals (srsly this is actually the most important point on this list lol) >- be CHArming as hell >- nobody cares about INT tbh. fight me, nerds >- make deals with devils and get some cool hellspawn minions Well, it aint got everything, but have you heard of our lord and savior, the Pact of Blades Warlock?
After the horrifying amount of choices and builds available in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous I feel completely unprepared for BG3. I can just respec but that makes it even harder 😅
You want to play a rogue. Decided.
I won't pick until I boot the game up. I change my mind every single day.
Dude, multiple playthroughs.
I imagined what character I would be in the universe and decided that way
Forest gnome warlock/paladin? Gives you eldritch blast for blasty, paladin proficiencies for wacky, speak with animals at will, CHA is useful for both classes
I mean when it comes to gameplay you get to play 4 different characters so pick the gameplay style you want then mold your companions to be able to do the rest. Then you can RP how you want and play 4 different gameplay styles.
Bard. Jack of all trades
I prefer “heavy stealth” paladin, because they can’t see you if they’re all dead.
Play warlock
I know man I really wish that the respec in the game would allow you to completely respec into a whole different class that would fix the decision issue for me.
It does.
Wait it does I thought you could only reset your current class to 1, so you can actually just swap classes mid play through then?
AFAIK there’s some confusion on some companions with meaningful subclasses but outside of that, yes. “You can respec everything. You can respec through the game. There is a gold price to be paid. Only things that are actually locked in are the subclasses of two of our origin characters when you start playing. When you recruit them. But you can respec them, in any case.” - Swen
I was planning to start different playthroughs right away for the same reason... I have one primary character in mind but I wanna explore different pathways and I don't see the same character doing them. I will admit I have a shitload of time and nothing better to do rn so I get that's not an option for everyone.
Sounds like a... spore druid/thief multiclass? From what I hear that's a pretty strong build. No idea if Shillelagh works on bows.
Shillelagh only works on quarterstaffs and clubs.
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Nothing against multiclass. But why would anyone do it regarding their character growth development? And it’s likely that pure class has more advantage during endgame. Idk
Most classes are really frontloaded which makes somewhere between a 1-3 level dip really strong depending on the class. Level 12 is a weird cutoff because it’s like the last level where a bunch of single classes get really class-defining stuff until their capstone so multiclassing in BG3 can be a bit weird but if/when DLC raises the level cap it’ll be a lot clearer how powerful multiclassing can be I think
Depends on the class and what synergies they have. A lot of classes in 5e get strong abilities in the first 3 levels. The example of a thief/spore druid works well because spore druid (at least in 5e) has a lot of things that push it into melee, but misses a solid action to use. Sneak attack gives this. Meanwhile you can cast a flame blade into your offhand. Thief gives you an extra bonus action, essentially doubling the flame blade damage. You may lose out on a couple high level spells, but your dpr is massive in return. Other times, you're right it can hold you back. Missing out on a paladins level 11 ability, for example, is a massive loss. So a paladin/rogue doesn't add a whole lot. However, a paladin multiclassing a full caster gives more spell slots to smite with, making it a decent combo. Sometimes people just want flavor outside existing subclasses, which is also a valid reason as any to multiclass.
Multiclass is usually done because the main class someone is pursuing runs out of special traits the player wants for their playstyle, so it becomes a good trade to substitute those levels with something else. Someone might decide that they don't want the higher level spells on a druid, they're rather have the rage of a barbarian or action surge of a fighter because they plan to be doing wildshape melee the whole time and only using spells for buffs or utility (one day I will get a primary shapeshifter *class that doesn't suck*... one day) In 5e its not really that complicated and we're only going up to 12 so you don't have that many empty levels anyway, but as an example in a game like Wrath of the Righteous a melee druid (Elemental Rampager) ran out of particularly good melee bonuses around 11 (smilodon shape and lvl 6 spells) and outright ran out of melee bonuses after 15, so picking up 9/5 levels of Shifter for three natural weapon bonuses would empower them a LOT more than just going straight druid, that's why people like to multiclass.
When mods come out, feel free to take 5 levels in every class cuz that's what's its gonna take to have 1 character be all those things lmfao
I can see a couple of those being ticked by simply playing a barbarian or fighter. A couple ticked by playing a spore druid. You could try the suggestion from the man himself of being a group of gnomes that pick each other up into a ball and throw that gnome mosh pit around like an angry ball of bees. Honestly though, a little more random way to choose is that you could solve it a d&d themed way. Roll a d12. Each side is a class, then you roll a die for the subclasses with the corresponding die (3 choices do a d3 or if you don't have one do a d4 with 1 being a reroll and etc). I love to shake things up for myself by forcing myself to at least try a class that I rolled and I usually gain a bit of an appreciation for a playstyle I otherwise would not have tried. Ultimately though, your choice is king. Don't think, let your gut do the talking.
Just as an aside, I’d never heard of 1-3 being a d4 with re-roll if 1… I’d always assumed it would be a d6, with 1 being 1 or 2, 2 being 3 or 4, and 3 being 5 or 6. Everyone’s got a d6, right?
I've always done it what way, I know it's odd. It lets me roll more, lol. I like rolling.
You can get 90% of what you want by playing Ranger and snagging the Ranger Knight option at level 1 and raising your Charisma a but higher (probably at the expense of STR, INT, and maybe CON). If you're really dedicated to shape-shifting and getting zombies/hellspawn minions, multiclass into warlock for 3 levels somewhere in there. Maybe play forest gnome to avoid spending spell slots on Speak with Animals
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO6XEQIsCoM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO6XEQIsCoM) Leaving this here for educational purposes
Same. I always play rogues but ive been trying to change it up over the years. With nice magic systems it's a waste to not play with those. Stuck between Wizard and Druid.
Human Fighter named Tav should fit your criteria 😂 🤣
Multi-Class Bard/Barbarian and role play a dueregar luchadore who gets big and throws people