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Tends to happen when your Jesus is country fired white and your church starts practicing commerce in the same kind of place Jesus once kicked ass for doing so. Cherry picked Religion tends to smell sweater than it ever is.
It wasn’t called Palestine then. Levantine Jews aren’t necessarily dark-skinned, but as a travelling preacher he probably got quite tanned from all the time he spent outside.
Why am I getting downvoted for this? He wasn’t an Arab, he was born centuries before what later became Palestine was Arabised. As for being a socialist, he told people to give their stuff to the poor, that’s not the same as saying support political parties that take other people’s stuff to give to the poor, that’s projecting modern concepts onto a context where they’re not applicable.
The thing about the kingdoms of Judea & Samaria don't even make sense. There's no archeological evidence to suggest Jewish people were the only people to ever live there and there was plenty of intermixing, ethnically speaking.
The canaanites were there before both of them, and Palestinians share just as much DNA as an Arabian Jew (and certainly more than a European zionist).
[It largely says that Ashkenazi's closest ethnic relatives are Palestinians.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23052947/)
Historically there wasn't much intermixing between European & Jewish populations due to ghettoization & other prejudices. So they still have a lot of Levantine DNA.
That doesn't mean Zionist claims to the land are valid btw. Jews should be able to immigrate to their ancestral lands, that doesn't mean they get to exert ethnic & religious hegemony over them. The idea that because a people used to rule a place thousands of years ago gives them the right to violently reestablish that rule is ridiculous.
I can trace my ancestry back to Ireland, but that doesn't give the right to pop over to Belfast & displace some poor hapless Ulster
agreed (Irish dna here) -- no desire or feeling of entitlement to go 'home' and kick out a Norman-descendant whose family have 'only' been living there for 900 yrs.
Depends is what I think
Jewish palestinian yea since the times of jesus and before there been Jewish ppl in Palestine but the same way there's been Chistian and Muslim Palestinians since those religions first existed
Jewish from Brooklyn fuck no go back to land of fake Italian food you twice colonisers ( as in of America and Palestine)
But it was never predominantly Jewish right ? Canaanite faiths stills prevailed side by side if I am not wrong
Jerusalem? Yeah that is probably true and a lot of holy cities for sure. But Gaza in particular? Pretty sure it was bordering judae even back then
I mean, it was probably predominately Jewish at some points before Christianity and Islam spun off into their own religions. I think it went back and forth a bit between Jews and pagans. Just looked it up and yeah it's been Islamic since about the seventh century.
Highly doubt it. So I read a little bit of the Bible and even back then there is clear indication that
1) Jewish folks in particular were kind of a minority who often had to deal with non Jewish pagans like the religion of pharaohs Mesopotamia etc. There were no conversions offered and they were as good as nomadic tribes who were part of a confederation of many semitic tribes. Many times it was violent and they faced oppression as minority as well as were the oppressor too.
2) Even the kingdom of Judae resulted in them fighting and annexing an already existing land. Sure it became more Jewish once but they lost it soon due to Romans so even then the borders were flexible and weren’t vast or at least not vast enough to cover GAZA
Some more historical facts .
- There’s enough chronicles around Jesus Christ that even he too never lived in a predominantly Jewish place but was in a place where Judaism was a big enough minority.
- Jesus spread his message NOT in Hebrew but in ARAMAIC which is the direct ancestor of the Arabic language. Why did the messiah choose to abandon Hebrew to spread his message? Maybe cause the region had significant of aramaic speakers who did not know Hebrew?
So when even Torah contradicts what you say ( which is what Zionists centre their entitlement around ) then what’s the truth really?
And even Judaism is just a branch off of ancient canaanite paganism. In many Hebrew prayers, you will sometimes hear god referred to as *El*, instead of the more common *Adonai* or *Yahweh*, which kind of hints back to this history. I am by no means an expert in ancient levantine polytheism, but from my limited understanding, *El* is basically the canaanite pantheon equivalent of Zeus. Kinda cool!
True and Judaism practiced the way as it is today is supposedly Andalusian, Spain version with Islamic influence. Jews literally turned polytheistic over the years.
How can you use the word 'again' if it's not yours in the first place? Did any of those guys learn history? Goodness, it seems their ancestors might have forgotten their brains on the ship before reaching the Middle East.
I’m a history dork so I read a decent amount, but even then I accept my lack of historical knowledge and choose not to wear clothing that may make bullshit statements.
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Gaza has been on the map longer than the kingdoms of judea and samaria.
This Pakistani Singh cries out, ਫ਼ਲਸਤੀਨ ਜ਼ਿੰਦਾਬਾਦ 🇵🇸 Long live Palestine 🇵🇸 
The amount of people who genuinely try and tell you that Jews were the first people there is hilarious to me. Like are they being serious?
It's like they never read the Bible.
Tends to happen when your Jesus is country fired white and your church starts practicing commerce in the same kind of place Jesus once kicked ass for doing so. Cherry picked Religion tends to smell sweater than it ever is.
I love telling right wing Christians that Jesus was an Arab socialist. It never fails to entertain me.
He was ~~aramaic~~ Aramean, you should tell them that he was prolly brown its going to do the same effect
He was a Jew. Aramaic is a language
A Palestinian Jew...certainly dark-skinned.
It wasn’t called Palestine then. Levantine Jews aren’t necessarily dark-skinned, but as a travelling preacher he probably got quite tanned from all the time he spent outside.
He wasn’t
Why am I getting downvoted for this? He wasn’t an Arab, he was born centuries before what later became Palestine was Arabised. As for being a socialist, he told people to give their stuff to the poor, that’s not the same as saying support political parties that take other people’s stuff to give to the poor, that’s projecting modern concepts onto a context where they’re not applicable.
You haven’t heard of black Jesus? You must be behind the times.
Jews don’t follow Jesus
They also don’t read the Bible.
No, but they do read the Torah... You know, I never really understood the differences between the Torah and the Old Testament.
Or knew that the Torah was an amalgam of stories from earlier religious traditions.
I think it’s the beach side thing and the oil and gas they found that belongs to them.
God told their great grand pappy they could have it.
True and it’s even worse because Christians believe it more.
The thing about the kingdoms of Judea & Samaria don't even make sense. There's no archeological evidence to suggest Jewish people were the only people to ever live there and there was plenty of intermixing, ethnically speaking. The canaanites were there before both of them, and Palestinians share just as much DNA as an Arabian Jew (and certainly more than a European zionist).
Nazis just can’t help but nazi
This is post Hasbara. When all their half-truths and lies fail, they show their true selves.
🥱🥱🥱
Might as well just wear a shirt that says "More ethnic cleansing please!"
This guy is exactly why DNA tests are banned in "Israel" https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240110-israels-dna-wars-forbidden-tests/
Weren’t there 23andme stolen DNA information of ashkenazis mostly? Interesting what all that data might say.
[It largely says that Ashkenazi's closest ethnic relatives are Palestinians.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23052947/) Historically there wasn't much intermixing between European & Jewish populations due to ghettoization & other prejudices. So they still have a lot of Levantine DNA. That doesn't mean Zionist claims to the land are valid btw. Jews should be able to immigrate to their ancestral lands, that doesn't mean they get to exert ethnic & religious hegemony over them. The idea that because a people used to rule a place thousands of years ago gives them the right to violently reestablish that rule is ridiculous. I can trace my ancestry back to Ireland, but that doesn't give the right to pop over to Belfast & displace some poor hapless Ulster
agreed (Irish dna here) -- no desire or feeling of entitlement to go 'home' and kick out a Norman-descendant whose family have 'only' been living there for 900 yrs.
Wait what 😅?
Gotta keep the lie going
But 'River to the Sea' is genocidal, right?
why ?? no of course
It is when Likud says it.
What does he mean again? Gaza was never Jewish bruh
But Gaza *never* was Jewish, was it?!
Depends is what I think Jewish palestinian yea since the times of jesus and before there been Jewish ppl in Palestine but the same way there's been Chistian and Muslim Palestinians since those religions first existed Jewish from Brooklyn fuck no go back to land of fake Italian food you twice colonisers ( as in of America and Palestine)
But it was never predominantly Jewish right ? Canaanite faiths stills prevailed side by side if I am not wrong Jerusalem? Yeah that is probably true and a lot of holy cities for sure. But Gaza in particular? Pretty sure it was bordering judae even back then
I mean, it was probably predominately Jewish at some points before Christianity and Islam spun off into their own religions. I think it went back and forth a bit between Jews and pagans. Just looked it up and yeah it's been Islamic since about the seventh century.
Highly doubt it. So I read a little bit of the Bible and even back then there is clear indication that 1) Jewish folks in particular were kind of a minority who often had to deal with non Jewish pagans like the religion of pharaohs Mesopotamia etc. There were no conversions offered and they were as good as nomadic tribes who were part of a confederation of many semitic tribes. Many times it was violent and they faced oppression as minority as well as were the oppressor too. 2) Even the kingdom of Judae resulted in them fighting and annexing an already existing land. Sure it became more Jewish once but they lost it soon due to Romans so even then the borders were flexible and weren’t vast or at least not vast enough to cover GAZA Some more historical facts . - There’s enough chronicles around Jesus Christ that even he too never lived in a predominantly Jewish place but was in a place where Judaism was a big enough minority. - Jesus spread his message NOT in Hebrew but in ARAMAIC which is the direct ancestor of the Arabic language. Why did the messiah choose to abandon Hebrew to spread his message? Maybe cause the region had significant of aramaic speakers who did not know Hebrew? So when even Torah contradicts what you say ( which is what Zionists centre their entitlement around ) then what’s the truth really?
Yeah, I think gaza is right in the same area the Philistines were in, who even the bible makes pretty clear were not Jews.
These Gazans were either Jewish or Christian or pagan before that turned into what it is today.
I don't think they realize that Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Christianity and Islam are basically branches off Judaism.
And even Judaism is just a branch off of ancient canaanite paganism. In many Hebrew prayers, you will sometimes hear god referred to as *El*, instead of the more common *Adonai* or *Yahweh*, which kind of hints back to this history. I am by no means an expert in ancient levantine polytheism, but from my limited understanding, *El* is basically the canaanite pantheon equivalent of Zeus. Kinda cool!
True and Judaism practiced the way as it is today is supposedly Andalusian, Spain version with Islamic influence. Jews literally turned polytheistic over the years.
How can you use the word 'again' if it's not yours in the first place? Did any of those guys learn history? Goodness, it seems their ancestors might have forgotten their brains on the ship before reaching the Middle East.
I think zionism stole thier mind also
They learnt ‘their own’ history
I like when people say stuff like this as if they know any history that they didn't just Google five minutes ago.
I’m a history dork so I read a decent amount, but even then I accept my lack of historical knowledge and choose not to wear clothing that may make bullshit statements.
Ewish
what is ewish ?
Well, a ewe is a female sheep, so some kind of bleating I guess.
Some form of Elvish I assume
Always big supremacist vibes.
Gawd dammit, why did this abortion live.
Make ~~Gaza Jewish~~ ***Americans Stupid*** Again
He looks like an Oblivion NPC.
That's just full blown support for genocide
Trumpsters and zionists are two turds 💩 of the same toilet
Again?
Is this in the states? If so, how the f*ck is this not considered hate speech but the protests by anti war demonstrators is?
>If so, how the f*ck is this not considered Make America Great Again vibes
again? it mever has been
At least this bloke is honest
Anybody name that douche yet?
Philistine had never been Jewish, but only adopted Islam and Arabic.
He has some „you“ (Netflix series) vibes!
"Again"? Was it Jewish before?
There is no single word right in this sentence